don't talk shit about people unless it has to do with a potential ban
./a.out19-May-21 08:08 PM
First
🔇19-May-21 08:08 PM
Azuth19-May-21 09:51 PM
>admin role
uhhhhh you know jannies are supposed to be below mods right
🔇19-May-21 09:56 PM
(:
i dont care i paid you for your services
Azuth19-May-21 09:57 PM
fine
you get one mod action for every pocket
that's 12 starting now
./a.out19-May-21 11:46 PM
I might make a castrated version of jackbot to remove cancerous features from it, as well as make it a bit more tailored to regular servers, so if you guys have any ideas for commands or automatic mod tools lemme know and I can code them in
🔇19-May-21 11:46 PM
i think swapping roles with a timer to swap back would be good, maybe even log those somewhere for future viewing?
Mumu from NYC19-May-21 11:49 PM
./a.out19-May-21 11:57 PM
ahh so like swapping someone to "timeout" and have it automatically put them back after x time?
I can do that
🔇19-May-21 11:58 PM
ye
time should probably be days
instead of standard seconds/hours
./a.out19-May-21 11:58 PM
yea, days would be a lot easier to implement. Won't have to keep track of 30 timers lol
🔇19-May-21 11:59 PM
ye
Stannic20-May-21 12:02 AM
whos admin
Mumu from NYC20-May-21 12:02 AM
PANIC
🔇20-May-21 12:02 AM
no more admin
Mumu from NYC20-May-21 12:02 AM
no admins no masters
🔇20-May-21 12:02 AM
Stannic20-May-21 12:02 AM
am i allowed to kick yuru on sight
🔇20-May-21 12:02 AM
no
Stannic20-May-21 12:02 AM
Mumu from NYC20-May-21 12:03 AM
.timeout stannic 100y
🔇20-May-21 12:03 AM
jannies cant kick
Mumu from NYC20-May-21 12:03 AM
Stannic20-May-21 12:03 AM
might wanna fix that
🔇20-May-21 12:03 AM
oh
okay
Mumu from NYC20-May-21 12:03 AM
oh based
🔇20-May-21 12:04 AM
fixed
Stannic20-May-21 12:04 AM
ye
🔇20-May-21 12:04 AM
you can change peoples names instead
Mumu from NYC20-May-21 12:04 AM
Stannic20-May-21 12:04 AM
time to rename yuru to failed grifter or third rate lawyer if they show their faces
(edited)
Mumu from NYC20-May-21 12:05 AM
!
now i have the power.
can the bot blacklist names
please blacklist that
🔇20-May-21 12:05 AM
idk, let me see if i can set that in dyno
Stannic20-May-21 12:05 AM
i mean if it supports regex it should be !**
Mumu from NYC20-May-21 12:06 AM
get on it vc codemonkey
🔇20-May-21 12:08 AM
dont think theres a thing for automatically changing peoples names in dyno
or blacklisting a name
Mumu from NYC20-May-21 12:09 AM
blacklisting was the wrong word
Stannic20-May-21 12:09 AM
can always give them der juden star
Mumu from NYC20-May-21 12:09 AM
Stannic20-May-21 12:09 AM
So they can't change their name
it'll make idiots like cryptic feel special inside
🔇20-May-21 12:10 AM
discord doesnt allow turning off permissions after theyve been granted
Stannic20-May-21 12:10 AM
ah
🔇20-May-21 12:10 AM
which is dumb af
Mumu from NYC20-May-21 12:10 AM
you need to turn this off too
nvm
Azuth20-May-21 12:11 AM
so out of curiosity
how likely is it that this server will need to be used?
either mass exodus or it's gonna be split between order vrg or chaos vrg discord
Azuth20-May-21 12:16 AM
Perrine20-May-21 12:17 AM
I do it for free
Stannic
either mass exodus or it's gonna be split between order vrg or chaos vrg discord
Perrine20-May-21 12:17 AM
honestly this seems fine
Azuth20-May-21 12:17 AM
I just wanna grill for god's sake
Perrine20-May-21 12:17 AM
the split I mean. Except that people will probably try and treat it as two separate rivals instead of just two places for the same group :V
Stannic20-May-21 12:18 AM
blame yuru for having their head so far up their own ass to think elections was a good idea after a meltie and then themselves meltying out of the discord
🔇20-May-21 12:18 AM
too late for that ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Azuth
I just wanna grill for god's sake
Perrine20-May-21 12:18 AM
Based
Mumu from NYC20-May-21 12:18 AM
uh
Perrine20-May-21 12:18 AM
Yeah that was not the right response, not at that timing. There's a point where mods need to actually moderate and clean up messes, not validate 'em
Mumu from NYC20-May-21 12:19 AM
post the ones you want to bring over i guess
me lazy me janny
🔇20-May-21 12:19 AM
if this does actually become maincord because of some shitpost ill have to remove mod/jannie from those that i added tho
Mumu from NYC20-May-21 12:19 AM
Perrine20-May-21 12:19 AM
is what I use the most tbh
Azuth20-May-21 12:19 AM
it always bugged me that vrg's pain emoji has a background
Mumu from NYC20-May-21 12:20 AM
i'm a good jannie i swear
Azuth20-May-21 12:20 AM
when exists
Mumu from NYC20-May-21 12:20 AM
Perrine20-May-21 12:20 AM
Is this going to eat my post if I post lots of emotes at once?
Mumu from NYC20-May-21 12:20 AM
a bot eats them
dunno if it's setup
🔇20-May-21 12:20 AM
no
its not setup
🔇
if this does actually become maincord because of some shitpost ill have to remove mod/jannie from those that i added tho
Azuth20-May-21 12:21 AM
if this becomes maincord I doubt I'll want to stay mod
🔇20-May-21 12:21 AM
i dont think its required anymore
ill demote you to jannie if it happens azuth
Azuth20-May-21 12:21 AM
Perrine20-May-21 12:21 AM
🔇20-May-21 12:22 AM
reminder that new server doesnt have all the emote slots btw
i should have put these in a folder instead of straight to desktop
how awful
Perrine20-May-21 12:38 AM
>no
>no
Mumu from NYC20-May-21 12:39 AM
i thought was :dead
🔇20-May-21 12:40 AM
nah,
Mumu from NYC20-May-21 12:42 AM
i've always associated that emote with dead
🔇20-May-21 12:42 AM
yeah, but its called sleep, i just associate it with extremely tired
Mumu from NYC20-May-21 12:43 AM
aka DED
🔇20-May-21 12:43 AM
yeah
Mumu from NYC20-May-21 12:50 AM
i think it gave me a cooldown for adding so many so fast
Meeps20-May-21 12:59 AM
Stannic20-May-21 01:00 AM
meeps gib medical marijuana pls
Meeps20-May-21 01:00 AM
Mumu from NYC20-May-21 01:01 AM
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<320-May-21 02:18 AM
./a.out20-May-21 08:35 PM
After much slapping of my computer, the bot's auto timeout feature is done
Mumu from NYC20-May-21 08:35 PM
i was wondering what the hell you were testing
./a.out20-May-21 08:36 PM
lmao yea
was gettin kinda hectic with the tests
Azuth24-Jun-21 12:07 PM
@here start invite spamming
Stannic24-Jun-21 12:07 PM
@🔇 GANG FROZENASYLUM GANG@🔇 GANG FROZENASYLUM GANG@🔇 GANG FROZENASYLUM GANG@🔇 GANG FROZENASYLUM GANG@🔇 GANG FROZENASYLUM GANG@🔇 GANG FROZENASYLUM GANG
Mumu from NYC24-Jun-21 12:07 PM
ASYLUM GANG ASYLUM GANG ASYLUM GANG ASYLUM GANG ASYLUM GANG ASYLUM GANG ASYLUM GANG ASYLUM GANG ASYLUM GANG ASYLUM GANG ASYLUM GANG ASYLUM GANG ASYLUM GANG ASYLUM GANG ASYLUM GANG ASYLUM GANG ASYLUM GANG ASYLUM GANG
Perrine24-Jun-21 12:14 PM
OPPASYLUM GANG
So many people want more emoji
Perrine
Perrine24-Jun-21 12:19 PM
This is the start of the list of all the old emoji
Stannic24-Jun-21 12:20 PM
who the fuck is dr cain
i'm not going to approve carltonus
Mumu from NYC24-Jun-21 12:20 PM
cmon brotherrrrrrrr
Azuth24-Jun-21 12:22 PM
was carl banned from the oldcord?
@/u/GemManBad@Distoibed only Asylum can make mods so enjoy jannie status for now
since cant post in actions removed image perms for yawnsu for a few hours for porn in general and music
Mumu from NYC24-Jun-21 01:04 PM
free my mans
Distoibed24-Jun-21 01:08 PM
@Azuth if you want, you can ban luna in welcome
unless we're doing a clean slate thing
but luna isn't vrg
Azuth24-Jun-21 01:08 PM
I'd defer to Asylum but he seems to be asleep
so for now I'll just go with if they were vetted before, they're vetted here, banned before, banned here
and let @🔇 sort out any new rules
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<324-Jun-21 01:09 PM
fuck forgot he was banned
Distoibed24-Jun-21 01:12 PM
don't worry @Azuth the moment I get mod, I'll make that a perm ban
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<324-Jun-21 01:12 PM
he doesn't even have vr does he now that i think about it(edited)
Stannic24-Jun-21 01:12 PM
nope
still no vr
Distoibed24-Jun-21 01:13 PM
didn't you get his memo?
he claimed you can play VR without VR
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<324-Jun-21 01:13 PM
ye i remember now
Distoibed24-Jun-21 01:13 PM
and the guy kept lying about how his life is
if I didn't ban him, meeps would
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<324-Jun-21 01:16 PM
does anyone have the current ban list(edited)
Stannic24-Jun-21 01:17 PM
no
snakior24-Jun-21 01:17 PM
demote me I lust not for power
Stannic24-Jun-21 01:17 PM
@Azuth
snakior24-Jun-21 01:18 PM
i am merely a civillian
🔇24-Jun-21 01:31 PM
I guess I need to put mod chat back to private.
Mumu from NYC24-Jun-21 01:32 PM
#janniechat rise up
Distoibed24-Jun-21 01:55 PM
Seen up before long time ago
the TLDR I got on him was:
Rando who joined somebody and liked the instance
Perrine24-Jun-21 02:48 PM
Are you telling me
That this is now
A hidden asylum
🔇24-Jun-21 02:49 PM
No? Mod chat is still public currently.
Perrine24-Jun-21 02:49 PM
A public asylum
Distoibed24-Jun-21 02:49 PM
Guess this will be another general(edited)
Perrine
A hidden asylum
Mumu from NYC24-Jun-21 02:53 PM
Stannic24-Jun-21 03:00 PM
haha mod circlejerk
xd
Distoibed24-Jun-21 03:02 PM
Anyways for the new jannies:
please don't shit up this chat, as much as this is a dumb ass cringecord with the occasional >Taking discord seriously
the last discord managed to stay very much on topic and I'd hate to see this chat get turned into #general4 or nu event/announcement because some people can't help but post le funny maymays in here
Azuth24-Jun-21 03:08 PM
I like the idea of this chat being public
keeps things accountable
Perrine24-Jun-21 03:08 PM
^
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<324-Jun-21 03:09 PM
That and it prevents drama from happening from people thinking mods are shit talking people
Perrine24-Jun-21 03:10 PM
Pretty much
Mod cabals are controversial
Mumu from NYC24-Jun-21 03:12 PM
accountability pagman
Distoibed24-Jun-21 03:14 PM
I mean...
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3
That and it prevents drama from happening from people thinking mods are shit talking people
Distoibed24-Jun-21 03:14 PM
I will talk shit about people who are troublesome
as much as I'm ok with this chat being open
I have a big feeling that most people in here won't be able to say stuff like:
"[user] is being a massive cunt in #chat, should we do something about it"
because that sentence can already create drama
Brainy24-Jun-21 03:16 PM
I feel like there are some things that need to be discussed privately / internally for that exact reason personally.
Distoibed24-Jun-21 03:17 PM
some things should, but I'm entirely ok with admitting that some people in here piss me off and they can know it
Brainy24-Jun-21 03:17 PM
Just my opinion / experience. But you guys should do things however you feel most comfortable.
Distoibed24-Jun-21 03:17 PM
if people want transparency, they will get it
Brainy24-Jun-21 03:17 PM
What I mean is that can create issues with people feeling they are being targeted or singled out.
Distoibed24-Jun-21 03:18 PM
that will happen
🔇24-Jun-21 03:18 PM
Yeah, it may or may not be hidden in the future. For now it’s open tho.
Brainy24-Jun-21 03:18 PM
"X has a clear bias against me, just search my name in #mods with mentions by him and you'll see."
Same with actions against users. It's putting them on "blast" so to speak when it's not really necessary.
🔇24-Jun-21 03:20 PM
^
Brainy24-Jun-21 03:20 PM
It could cause them to act out more belligerently in response to an action because they want to defend themselves in front of the community.
🔇24-Jun-21 03:21 PM
I think #actions will be for “channel removed” or something similar. #jannieactions are fine if people want to comb the logs.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<324-Jun-21 03:21 PM
or for big things like bans
🔇24-Jun-21 03:22 PM
Bans too yeah.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<324-Jun-21 03:22 PM
I personally think a mod discord would be a good idea to keep track of bans if the server gets nuked
Brainy24-Jun-21 03:22 PM
The big issue I see with #jannieactions being visible is if we remove content and it's quoting the content (essentially keeping TOSable content "up" and on display).
🔇24-Jun-21 03:22 PM
I may disable that part of the bot.
I just enabled all the logging functions.
Brainy24-Jun-21 03:23 PM
I think that's valuable information though, we definitely want to preserve it.
🔇24-Jun-21 03:23 PM
The other option is to just also delete the log and post a note.
Distoibed24-Jun-21 03:23 PM
I do think bans/timeouts/kicks ect should be noted with an @'d
people will just accept the action and wait it out, and if they violently bite and scratch against it, it's them being unable to "take the timeout and sit patiently"
IF somebody fucks up and there is a small uproar, we can always revert it if we did the oopsie.
Brainy24-Jun-21 03:23 PM
We need historical context and also to know any bot is doing its job if filters are assigned to it.
Stannic24-Jun-21 03:25 PM
lemme go judge dredd
but nah i'll just do what's needed
and delete ohmai's posts
Stannic
and delete ohmai's posts
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<324-Jun-21 03:26 PM
honestly probably for the best
Stannic24-Jun-21 03:26 PM
i want black lily back for door greeter
Brainy24-Jun-21 03:26 PM
The way I've done it on other servers is make a "Mod Spam" category with sub channels the bot posts to regarding user activity, moderator actions, and deleted content. The only thing I've ever removed from deleted content was CSAM.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<324-Jun-21 03:26 PM
imo as long as people are not being completely malicious not a ton of action is needed as far as modding goes
people tend to mod themselves for the most part
Brainy24-Jun-21 03:27 PM
That way deleted content preserves the historical context for future reports and cases. It helps a lot with ban evasion too (not that I see that being a problem here).
Distoibed24-Jun-21 03:27 PM
people in this discord usually know whenever they are breaking the rules
either they wing it or they remove their shit, all of us are adults and most of the time we act like it
Brainy24-Jun-21 03:28 PM
I agree, it should be possible to just remove what is high severity TOSable after a certain period in as frictionless a way as possible and pay it no mind.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<324-Jun-21 03:28 PM
someone posts anime tiddy in general delete and remove image perms for a few hours
Brainy24-Jun-21 03:28 PM
Ideally we'd want to manually assign this to a bot to prune.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<324-Jun-21 03:28 PM
image perms should be before timeout imo
Brainy24-Jun-21 03:29 PM
That's what you guys did before?
Distoibed24-Jun-21 03:29 PM
but the big thing you might need to realize is that modding this discord is very hands off from what I experienced
last week I barely had to do anything because most people behave in this discord
some people post gay shit in general, but that's honestly the worst you're gonna get
if people fight, time both of them out
most people don't even fight to the extend that mods need to intervene
1
you can leave for a month and actions will barely have changed unless we have a new schizo that joined vrg
Brainy24-Jun-21 03:32 PM
I've never seen fighting as an issue on here. Even slurs half the time are in a grey area, no context, or harmless. It's just the targeted/violent hate speech that I've personally seen as a problem. I'm honestly surprised it didn't cause any issue before now.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<324-Jun-21 03:32 PM
97 percent of people behave themselves 98 percent of the time
Brainy24-Jun-21 03:33 PM
Also looking over their transparency report, part of me wonders if it was even someone reporting posts on the server, as opposed to the server being proactively detected somehow. They try to make it sound like they do that.
Which sounds insane given the amount of servers and discussion that most go on across the entire platform daily. I feel like a tinfoil hat just entertaining it.(edited)
Distoibed24-Jun-21 03:33 PM
if somebody unironically posts CP in here, people will shit talk him into the shadow dimension, you could almost say that this community cleans itself up due to how we handle spergs and schizos
Brainy24-Jun-21 03:34 PM
CSAM needs to be reported and deleted immediately.
1
Distoibed24-Jun-21 03:35 PM
that will obviously happen
Brainy24-Jun-21 03:36 PM
The user too. They shouldn't even be around after that for people to shit talk. I'm referring to actual CSAM though, not artwork.
Distoibed24-Jun-21 03:36 PM
idk if they "proactively" found our server since we've basically been breeding hate speech,misogyny,racism,bigotry in this discord since we made it
Brainy
The user too. They shouldn't even be around after that for people to shit talk. I'm referring to actual CSAM though, not artwork.
Distoibed24-Jun-21 03:37 PM
they will be remembered in vrc and on the thread
Brainy24-Jun-21 03:39 PM
Yeah I feel like it has to be a bluff. This is a company that can't even handle proxy reporting of grooming / CSAM reported by their own Partners. I feel like anything proactive would occur on server creation (IE blocking certain terms for a server name, or flagging a server if the name is changed). That seams like a more cost-effective way to do it proactively.
Distoibed24-Jun-21 03:40 PM
but about moderation, you barely need to do anything since if somebody does something idiotic, the entire server will be there to laugh and mock them
although this might be a "toxic" way of dealing, it has prevented a lot of people of blowing stuff up without genuine emotional distress
and even if they have such emotional distress, people will just laugh harder
something something, thick skin ect
🔇24-Jun-21 03:42 PM
Yeah, that’s a figured one.
Stannic24-Jun-21 03:42 PM
wat
🔇24-Jun-21 03:42 PM
Alt owner got banned
Stannic24-Jun-21 03:42 PM
ooooh
Mumu from NYC24-Jun-21 03:44 PM
damn they did you dirty
"hey hold this briefcase" "what's inside?" "don't worry about it" blows up 2 minutes later
Black Lily24-Jun-21 03:45 PM
@[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes remember to ban everyone I vouched for in the asset discord
2
Distoibed24-Jun-21 03:45 PM
@🔇 made an alt yet?
🔇24-Jun-21 03:46 PM
I have one, I’ll migrate it after I finish work and am off mobile.
Black Lily
@[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes remember to ban everyone I vouched for in the asset discord
Stannic24-Jun-21 03:47 PM
why is that
Distoibed24-Jun-21 03:48 PM
dank setup a rule that said "if you get banned, your entire chain gets banned" or something like that @Stannic
Stannic24-Jun-21 03:48 PM
oh
🔇24-Jun-21 03:49 PM
Good thing I am my own chain. (:
Stannic24-Jun-21 03:49 PM
i never got invited to the assetcord so i dunno
prolly a good thing for dankmemes(edited)
🔇24-Jun-21 03:49 PM
I should invite like 30 Alts and vet them all one day. (;(edited)
Perrine24-Jun-21 04:37 PM
As far as i know discord doesn't really scan servers. I've been in several with poltards and nothing happens to the server, just the tards
So shit probably gets reported
Brainy24-Jun-21 04:39 PM
Did the server have violent hate speech?
Or just one-off slurs?
🔇24-Jun-21 04:40 PM
Yes
Black Lily24-Jun-21 04:41 PM
It looks like they specifically reported my alt account
Which had no posts
Stannic24-Jun-21 04:43 PM
wat
🔇
Brainy24-Jun-21 04:52 PM
Oh I meant the pol board Perrine mentioned.
Black Lily
Which had no posts
Brainy24-Jun-21 04:53 PM
Were you the server owner? Because it could be they banned you for operating the server itself.
Distoibed24-Jun-21 04:53 PM
they banned his acc yeah
his alt
Brainy24-Jun-21 04:55 PM
Yeah it doesn't mean the account itself was reported. Most likely the account ban was connected to the server ban just by virtue of being the owner.
They have generic pre-written macros for when they take an action.(edited)
So if you never posted anything like that on the server, then they held you accountable for being the owner and allowing others to post that on the server.(edited)
Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.
Distoibed24-Jun-21 05:08 PM
dehumanizing...
that's a new
Brainy24-Jun-21 05:11 PM
The way the platform treats it is that you're responsible for the communities you operate.(edited)
If your platform is prolific with what they deem to be hate speech and they do not see you as doing enough proactively to discourage or prevent it, they're going to take action against you shortly after taking action against the server, as you're to "blame" for it.
June24-Jun-21 07:32 PM
@🔇 I need a output channel created for the bot, I dont have perms for it though
🔇24-Jun-21 07:32 PM
#jannieactions ?
June24-Jun-21 07:33 PM
wilco, I'll rework the bot and get it up tonight or tomorrow morning
🔇24-Jun-21 07:33 PM
okay
June24-Jun-21 07:33 PM
I want to adjust how it outputs data, had a few bugs I didnt want to fix because that server was doomed
no, not really. wait for the shitstorm to settle, other than that post the discord on the bread
or share it to people
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Brainy24-Jun-21 09:49 PM
Any way we can get a system for flagging posts in a channel, possibly by post ID, which the bot can then take action against? Ideally we would want to also be able to specify a time for removal. @June
Without this the bot is not doing anything different than before to prevent the server from getting banned. We need a way to proactively flag complex content for removal.(edited)
June24-Jun-21 10:03 PM
already does that
all of that
/u/GemManBad24-Jun-21 10:28 PM
We took massive precautions
Every server has a death date, just got to be prepared
bred elf24-Jun-21 10:32 PM
Just gonna take the monent to say I'm retiring though
New blood can be in charge
My home is the inner ring
i got almost all the gifs uploaded, mimerun wouldnt go because its too big i guess?
Mumu from NYC25-Jun-21 04:19 AM
which did you stop at
🔇25-Jun-21 04:19 AM
The ones in there
I removed all the ones I uploaded.
BBC (Big Bunny Cock)25-Jun-21 04:21 AM
is it normal that everyone can see the mods channel?
🔇25-Jun-21 04:21 AM
For now, yes.
I’ll restore you as a mod when I’m at my pc tomorrow. Until then you’re a jannie.
BBC (Big Bunny Cock)
is it normal that everyone can see the mods channel?
Distoibed25-Jun-21 04:27 AM
people in and outside of here wanted transparency
I'd prefer to keep it closed so we can talk about troublesome individuals without them being able to see
Distoibed
people in and outside of here wanted transparency
BBC (Big Bunny Cock)25-Jun-21 04:28 AM
I mean for now it's good but it's like a channel were we plan/vote on stuff
Distoibed25-Jun-21 04:28 AM
ah..
we gotta create that
BBC (Big Bunny Cock)25-Jun-21 04:29 AM
if you create that whats the point of the mod channel then?
Distoibed25-Jun-21 04:30 AM
to talk?
🔇25-Jun-21 04:37 AM
It’ll close eventually, just needed it open previously to get things together.
/u/GemManBad25-Jun-21 06:17 PM
@mod suggesting we make @Krial and @#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3 mod, opinions?
Azuth25-Jun-21 06:17 PM
I think Krial would be a good choice
Distoibed25-Jun-21 06:17 PM
Krial being An ex actual jannie
Azuth25-Jun-21 06:18 PM
neutral on ohmai, haven't talked to him enough
Distoibed25-Jun-21 06:18 PM
Idk if hé wants to return
Also im MIA for tonight
/u/GemManBad
@mod suggesting we make @Krial and @#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3 mod, opinions?
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<325-Jun-21 06:20 PM
im fine with either mod or jannie tbh, very little mod stuff actually needs done 98 percent of the time. my biggest thing i can do is since i work from home im usually lurking discord during the day
/u/GemManBad
@mod suggesting we make @Krial and @#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3 mod, opinions?
Dal29025-Jun-21 06:21 PM
Makes sense to me, krial is fit for it and I wanted him to be one to begin with huehue
June25-Jun-21 06:21 PM
I suggest NEITHER
Dal29025-Jun-21 06:22 PM
NO MODS
June25-Jun-21 06:22 PM
god damn popularity contest fucks
Dal29025-Jun-21 06:22 PM
NO MASTER
June25-Jun-21 06:22 PM
hurrr durr my friends should be mods
/u/GemManBad25-Jun-21 06:22 PM
Mod june?
June25-Jun-21 06:22 PM
fuck off
/u/GemManBad25-Jun-21 06:22 PM
Lmao
Dal29025-Jun-21 06:22 PM
@June you want mod
June25-Jun-21 06:22 PM
I will fucking cut you and ban everyone if you do
but jokes aside those are good picks
ask them first
before suggesting next time though
/u/GemManBad25-Jun-21 06:24 PM
Krial wouldn't complain, and everyone trusts him. I also spooken to oh mai about it before hand
Just wanted opinions, what this channel is for
June25-Jun-21 06:24 PM
yah kinda a line of power grab though on that one
bullshitting about that way back during the start of the 'elections'
Dal290
Makes sense to me, krial is fit for it and I wanted him to be one to begin with huehue
Distoibed25-Jun-21 06:39 PM
If krial wants he should
But idk if hé wants
Futanari25-Jun-21 06:44 PM
The election was a joke and a bad idea honestly
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<325-Jun-21 06:47 PM
i used it as an opportunity to shitpost so it was fun imo\
/u/GemManBad25-Jun-21 07:33 PM
Most of us made the most out of the situation
Black Lily25-Jun-21 07:42 PM
I just wanna play video games
Krial is a fine choice
🔇25-Jun-21 07:45 PM
I closed mod chat.
Voting is still open tho.
@Krial is jannie for now.
Krial25-Jun-21 07:48 PM
Can do.
Azuth25-Jun-21 09:07 PM
oh boy time to start the trash talk
Black Lily25-Jun-21 09:07 PM
Distoibed25-Jun-21 09:41 PM
I'll trash any1 of you
June25-Jun-21 09:50 PM
I heard something about gay sex in #mods
Futanari25-Jun-21 10:00 PM
Uh no
No gay in here
Krial25-Jun-21 10:01 PM
Back to vetting most entries?
🔇25-Jun-21 10:45 PM
Yes
Black Lily25-Jun-21 11:29 PM
Should we change the entry requirements now or just stick with the same old shit
Mumu from NYC25-Jun-21 11:29 PM
I mean it wouldn't necessarily be bad to mix things up a bit
question is, to what
Black Lily25-Jun-21 11:30 PM
No more /trash/
Mumu from NYC25-Jun-21 11:30 PM
I can agree with that yeah
they have their own discord already
Black Lily25-Jun-21 11:31 PM
Or if they only list /pol/ and or /b/
Azuth25-Jun-21 11:33 PM
I'm new here so my opinion only counts for so much, but I like the way the 4chan cup discords vet
Mumu from NYC25-Jun-21 11:34 PM
maybe it's silly/stupid to ask but you could also throw in a what was the last vr game you played/when was the last time you played something vr
Azuth25-Jun-21 11:34 PM
it's not enough to say you're from a thread/board, they also ask for your favorite meme/post from it
Azuth
it's not enough to say you're from a thread/board, they also ask for your favorite meme/post from it
Futanari25-Jun-21 11:34 PM
Sounds like a good idea
I also wanna know if we should just kill #nsfw-chat, im not against it i just dont feel like it should ever be a thing
Mumu from NYC25-Jun-21 11:37 PM
I know you are like anti public coomer etc and I have nothing against that which is partly why I even made the other server to hopefully help cut down on that sort of thing, most people only use that chat because it's basically just #general but you can do almost whatever without consequences(edited)
Futanari25-Jun-21 11:39 PM
That is true yes
Black Lily25-Jun-21 11:42 PM
Kinda funny
Mumu from NYC25-Jun-21 11:42 PM
dang
lmfao no edits allowed
is gone now gottem
June25-Jun-21 11:47 PM
worked on lavender, tomorrow I'll bring up the bot edits and make it live. it was a long work day @🔇
after it comes up with the fixes I'll take requests for new features
🔇25-Jun-21 11:51 PM
Okay, I have a list of enhancements I want to happen, @Brainy helped me with them, and is generally more knowledgeable about discord’s safety. When you are ready we can talk via dm, because I don’t want people to know any of the rules to prevent retards from purposefully getting around them.
Mumu from NYC25-Jun-21 11:53 PM
1000%
June25-Jun-21 11:54 PM
uggh alright
he hit me with a list already in dms
refine them, remove the manual ones
you want automatic not manual full stop
🔇25-Jun-21 11:57 PM
Yeah I’ll dm you the specifics.
I’m out drinking with fam playing golf rn so it’ll be in a bit.
June25-Jun-21 11:58 PM
aite
Mumu from NYC25-Jun-21 11:58 PM
golf golf?
or putt or driving range
🔇26-Jun-21 12:17 AM
Golf golf. All 18
Mumu from NYC26-Jun-21 12:18 AM
Futanari26-Jun-21 12:18 AM
Nice
Futanari26-Jun-21 01:58 AM
🔇26-Jun-21 02:07 AM
got home, uploaded some of the missing emojis
23 left, but rate limited rn
Futanari26-Jun-21 03:03 AM
Theres dupes
🔇26-Jun-21 03:09 AM
clean them for me? im retarded
Futanari26-Jun-21 03:10 AM
Im on phone lmao
🔇26-Jun-21 03:10 AM
dont worry about it then
Futanari26-Jun-21 03:11 AM
Got it
Black Lily26-Jun-21 03:52 AM
:yeszipzoop:
Brainy26-Jun-21 04:05 AM
@🔇@June I'm around, let me know if you need my input on anything!
Black Lily
:yeszipzoop:
🔇26-Jun-21 04:06 AM
working on it lol
Brainy
@🔇@June I'm around, let me know if you need my input on anything!
🔇26-Jun-21 04:07 AM
need to do the initial first, ill let you know after we progress
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Brainy26-Jun-21 04:09 AM
Also I understand if you want to keep some rules / processes internal, but I'd strongly advise having some rough outline for moderators here on policy just so we're not under moderating or over moderating certain types of expression.
🔇26-Jun-21 04:10 AM
a lot of stuff will be done behind the scenes we will have the internal rules set when we explain how the bot enhancements are done
Pineapples26-Jun-21 04:12 AM
Dal29026-Jun-21 04:17 AM
Rules are a solid yikes from me dog
🔇26-Jun-21 04:19 AM
rules for cleanup, not rules to tell people no
Dal29026-Jun-21 04:20 AM
Cleanup?
🔇26-Jun-21 04:20 AM
ye, it'll prevent dumb shit in the future
Dal29026-Jun-21 04:21 AM
Idk about that one, any whiff of that will spook people
🔇26-Jun-21 04:22 AM
they wont know unless someone is dumb af
Dal29026-Jun-21 04:22 AM
We got by for like, two years on a "don't act dumb" policy for obvious bullshit like animal abuse or gore
🔇26-Jun-21 04:22 AM
part of the bot
Dal29026-Jun-21 04:22 AM
Oh for the clean up bot
🔇26-Jun-21 04:22 AM
ye
Dal29026-Jun-21 04:22 AM
Fucking duh got damn
I need to stop checking this while tipsy lmoa
🔇26-Jun-21 04:23 AM
the most mods will have to do is flag stuff thats "fine" but bad from discords point
Dal29026-Jun-21 04:24 AM
Can't that be automatic?
🔇26-Jun-21 04:25 AM
kinda, but its more for vague things anyways
Dal29026-Jun-21 04:26 AM
Oh and weird time to bring this up but I want to ask fogwick to mod
He did it before and things worked out
🔇26-Jun-21 04:27 AM
he was mod, its up to him to return or not
he asked to not be mod anymore previously
Dal29026-Jun-21 04:27 AM
Yee just wanted to say, I'll approach him about it
🔇26-Jun-21 04:27 AM
okay, or just assign him jannie and we can ask how he feels
Dal29026-Jun-21 04:28 AM
He was annoyed with stuff he was doing being undone lol
Yee yee I just want to scope around a bit and see if some are down while checking in here, we need a lil bit of stability
🔇26-Jun-21 04:29 AM
yeah. btw any mod is free to assign jannies
Pineapples26-Jun-21 04:30 AM
Cool, thanks.
Mumu from NYC26-Jun-21 04:30 AM
lmfao
the price of alt being ceo..
🔇26-Jun-21 04:34 AM
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Mumu from NYC26-Jun-21 04:35 AM
tools of the trade
Black Lily
:yeszipzoop:
🔇26-Jun-21 05:31 AM
Futanari26-Jun-21 05:38 AM
why tho?
🔇26-Jun-21 05:44 AM
Why what?
Futanari
why tho?
Black Lily26-Jun-21 06:00 AM
Nostalgia and I like ZipZoop
🔇26-Jun-21 06:01 AM
I like the coffee pot.
I don’t have the :huhzipzoop: saved anywhere.
Brainy26-Jun-21 06:12 AM
This was the ban reason for the server owner, but do we know the actual ban reason issued for the server itself?
Did they use the same macro for that too?
Just trying to confirm the server was banned for hate speech / violent hate speech and not ban evasion.
Black Lily26-Jun-21 06:16 AM
That is the ban reason for the server
Server was only deleted because the owner was banned
Brainy26-Jun-21 06:19 AM
So the server wasn't found to be in violation?
But you mentioned you never posted anything with the account, correct?
If that's the case then it was them holding you accountable for what was being said on the server as the server owner and we can take this as being the ban reason for the server too.
Mumu from NYC26-Jun-21 06:20 AM
basically
Brainy26-Jun-21 06:21 AM
Okay thanks for confirming. I just wanted to be absolutely sure it wasn't ban evasion.
Mumu from NYC26-Jun-21 06:21 AM
"you didn't keep your server(s) in check now face the consequences"
Brainy26-Jun-21 06:21 AM
Which is good for us because it means we have a fresh start on the server and don't have to worry about the server being deleted for ban evasion.
I deleted some posts just now (what would constitute clear violent hate speech / call to violence) and I can't see where it's displaying them in logs?(edited)
Black Lily26-Jun-21 06:26 AM
Brainy26-Jun-21 06:26 AM
Where is that? I can't find it?
🔇26-Jun-21 06:27 AM
Not all of it gets posted to #jannieactions
Mumu from NYC26-Jun-21 06:27 AM
dropdown -> server settings -> audit log
Brainy26-Jun-21 06:27 AM
Oh it's in the actual Discord Audit Log?
🔇26-Jun-21 06:27 AM
Yes
Brainy26-Jun-21 06:27 AM
Any way we can get a channel with a bot record of that so it's searchable and does not expire?
Also I can't see the original contents of the message in that Audit Log.
Honestly I wish we could just tell people to chill out and keep a lot of the really edgy stuff on 4Chan.
Not even talking about the slurs.
🔇26-Jun-21 06:29 AM
The bot will clean it when it’s up.
Brainy26-Jun-21 06:29 AM
Just the stuff that Discord might see as violent hate speech.
I'd be able to delete a lot of that now. But I dislike deleting things without having a mod record of the contents.
Ideally we'd want a channel where the bot posts what is deleted including message contents.
Yeah, we don't want to tell them.
Nor warn them.
Just remove and forget about it.
But I wish we could just tell them and have them behave reasonably.
Mumu from NYC26-Jun-21 06:30 AM
is the bot able to kick/ban
Brainy26-Jun-21 06:30 AM
Ideally we would want the bot to be issuing anything like that so Jannies won't face recrimination.
Mumu from NYC26-Jun-21 06:32 AM
e.g going off what you said with the dedicated channel for deleted posts + kick/ban reason if it comes down to it
🔇26-Jun-21 06:32 AM
The bot could, but that won’t be its primary objective.
Also having logs stored on the server is bad.
The bot stores what it deletes in a database.
Mumu from NYC26-Jun-21 06:33 AM
🔇26-Jun-21 06:33 AM
Keeps a record of it, but not on the discord.
Brainy26-Jun-21 06:33 AM
I'd have to confirm it, but they have stated in that past that a non-public mod channel storing message history is acceptable because they understand we need historical context. The exception to this of course is CSAM and direct links to malware.
🔇26-Jun-21 06:34 AM
Brainy26-Jun-21 06:34 AM
This also provides demonstrable proof / evidence that we are proactively moderating on the server in a good faith effort to comply with Discord TOS.
Mumu from NYC26-Jun-21 06:34 AM
i initially wanted to bring up a warning system for the bot that'll dm your offenses etc but now looking at it again i agree that'd just cause more problems just because people will go "hehe i said the thing i'm gonna do it again"
🔇26-Jun-21 06:34 AM
The problem would be more of the 20k instances of the gamer word, and is not banning those repeat offenders.
Us not banning*
Brainy26-Jun-21 06:35 AM
Yeah, warnings may work for other servers, but I just see it creating a complete shit storm here.
🔇26-Jun-21 06:35 AM
Warnings wouldn’t work for here.
Black Lily26-Jun-21 06:35 AM
I don't think we need to worry too much
🔇26-Jun-21 06:35 AM
People would purposely shit on it.
But yeah it’s not really much to worry about.
Black Lily26-Jun-21 06:35 AM
If the discord dies we just make another one
🔇26-Jun-21 06:36 AM
Eventually discord will nuke the server again, and we just want to postpone that as long as we can
Black Lily26-Jun-21 06:36 AM
It doesn't matter that much
🔇26-Jun-21 06:36 AM
There’s no getting around that.
Black Lily26-Jun-21 06:36 AM
The discord only died because of some angry thread retards that hate the discord more than anything
Mumu from NYC26-Jun-21 06:37 AM
well asylum is big boss now so he'll actually make an effort to make backups of things so basically nothing will be lost
Brainy26-Jun-21 06:37 AM
If you do decide to go with some kind of warning system, even for just the really bad staff, I'd strongly suggest those warnings being issued by a bot. Also, I'd strongly suggest we do the same for #actions because otherwise you're opening Jannies up to recrimination. Another thing I've noticed is that any message I edit in #mods is being displayed in #jannieactions and this should not be happening.
Essentially nothing we are discussing in this channel right now is private.
🔇26-Jun-21 06:37 AM
Yeah I’ll change that tomorrow, just don’t edit stuff for now.
🔇
Eventually discord will nuke the server again, and we just want to postpone that as long as we can
Brainy26-Jun-21 06:38 AM
I feel we can do a lot to skirt the line and prevent deletion, if not get them to "warn" us first about content to remove (which they are known to do).(edited)
🔇26-Jun-21 06:38 AM
We can, but having the entire community agree to not shit on the floor is harder than one would think.
Brainy26-Jun-21 06:40 AM
That doesn't happen in any community. We just have to clean up after it.
🔇26-Jun-21 06:40 AM
Also they did warn us, like three months prior to the deletion.
Brainy26-Jun-21 06:40 AM
Oh wait they did?
🔇26-Jun-21 06:40 AM
Yeah.
Brainy26-Jun-21 06:40 AM
May I see those please?
🔇26-Jun-21 06:40 AM
We tried, and it wasn’t enough.
Brainy26-Jun-21 06:40 AM
It would give me some good insight as to their action policy.
🔇26-Jun-21 06:40 AM
I don’t have them, it was in the other server.
Mumu from NYC26-Jun-21 06:41 AM
while i agree yes server deletion is bound to happen, it shouldn't even be an issue to begin with. haha funee meme but all it takes is one or a few schizos to have an off day you're in this constant battle of 5D chess treading through a field of landmines and quicksand
Brainy26-Jun-21 06:41 AM
Let me guess, they just said you had bad stuff to remove, but didn't actually identify the stuff to remove?
🔇26-Jun-21 06:41 AM
Ye
Mumu from NYC26-Jun-21 06:41 AM
it's just a dogshit
🔇26-Jun-21 06:41 AM
They said we should actively moderate the discord and left it at that basically.
Brainy26-Jun-21 06:41 AM
Then this goes back to what I was saying before. The original method of the bot deleting slurs was insufficient because there was still violent hate speech being left up.
But good to know we at least get a heads up.
🔇26-Jun-21 06:42 AM
I mean yeah, but the bot can’t clean everything.
Brainy26-Jun-21 06:43 AM
Here's what I'm (fairly confident) happens. They get the report in their triage queue, they investigate to confirm the post is up. They may look at all reports in triage related to the server from X date. They issue the warning, they wait to see if the post(s) are removed. If they're not, they strike. If they are, they resolve.
🔇26-Jun-21 06:43 AM
Like I said in dms if we want to actually prevent deletion, we can forego any actual moderation and just delete anything a week old.
Can’t hold anything against us if there’s nothing to see.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Brainy26-Jun-21 06:44 AM
I see that being more controversial because we'll be removing more harmless content / expression than what Discord deems harmful.(edited)
Goddammit I keep forgetting not to edit my post.
Mumu from NYC26-Jun-21 06:45 AM
i don't think asylum meant everything unless..?
Brainy26-Jun-21 06:45 AM
I'm scared to delete it in here too lol
🔇26-Jun-21 06:45 AM
I keep going and deleting those in #jannieactions anyways.
Brainy26-Jun-21 06:45 AM
Oh if they mean that then yeah, I'm in 100% agreement with that, using a flagging system./
Mumu from NYC
i don't think asylum meant everything unless..?
🔇26-Jun-21 06:45 AM
No I meant everything.
Mumu from NYC26-Jun-21 06:46 AM
i c
Brainy26-Jun-21 06:46 AM
Yeah, I see deleting everything as being very controversial.
🔇26-Jun-21 06:46 AM
But that’s worst case, fuck everything situation.
Mumu from NYC26-Jun-21 06:46 AM
defcon 1
Brainy26-Jun-21 06:46 AM
Especially since people want to look back at posts in #blender-unity#shopping-inspo#workshop
🔇26-Jun-21 06:46 AM
Flagging system is going to happen.
🔇
Flagging system is going to happen.
Brainy26-Jun-21 06:47 AM
Very happy about this!!
🔇26-Jun-21 06:47 AM
Jannies/mods will post a link to a message in a channel and the bot will go clean it later.
Brainy26-Jun-21 06:47 AM
Yeah I think we can do a lot just on that alone to stave off deletion.
Then the only suggestion I have beyond that would be separate channels where we can keep historical records of posts that is searchable.
This would need to be non-public (mods only).
🔇26-Jun-21 06:49 AM
I’ll consider that, but I don’t think having a log of 20k gamer words is good.
Having an external log would be fine
Since discord will give problems with the racism.
Brainy26-Jun-21 06:50 AM
Along with a bot, rather than individual Jannies, giving notice of bans (if you feel that is necessary) in #actions . However, I feel this just acts like an announcement and call to action for controversy. I personally would have this be a mods only channel.
🔇26-Jun-21 06:50 AM
Even if we say “we cleaned it up” they will ask why we didn’t ban the guy that says the gamer word several times a day.
Brainy26-Jun-21 06:51 AM
I can see your concern there. If it really has you worried then external log should be fine.
What about #actions ? Any way we can keep that mods only?
Mumu from NYC26-Jun-21 06:52 AM
one thing i did want to bring up was, yes new server new "rules" but if people with problematic pasts (in terms of the server not their life lol) should be kept short leashed or at the very least a close eye kept if not already and if any issues should arise; nipped in the bud. i am not trying to call out any individual or groups of people.
🔇26-Jun-21 06:52 AM
I would rather you call out individuals.
Brainy26-Jun-21 06:52 AM
@Mumu from NYC Yeah my concern is over time we'll be "calling out" people in a searchable way that is public in #actions
🔇26-Jun-21 06:53 AM
Also, idk what you mean by make actions private?
Brainy26-Jun-21 06:53 AM
Which could drive user resentment, defensiveness towards certain moderator actions, and cause "cliques" to form that are divisive.
🔇26-Jun-21 06:53 AM
We just post things mods are doing that may impact the rest of the idiots here.
Brainy26-Jun-21 06:53 AM
As in, make it a channel only we (moderators) can see so we know that a timeout, ban, whatever was issued to X over Y behavior.(edited)
🔇26-Jun-21 06:53 AM
I may private jannieactions tho.
Brainy26-Jun-21 06:55 AM
Right now the way #actions is looking is that it's essentially "calling out" users we take action against in a way that could be perceived as shaming and incite a defensive response we may not have gotten otherwise if it had just been kept private.
IE, user who may not have objected to the action, may object to it just because they feel "called out" in that channel.
Then cliques of allies form around that person and resentment begins to form.
🔇26-Jun-21 06:55 AM
I don’t think people had a problem with it anyways.
More often than not people wanted their name in it, but that’s all
Brainy26-Jun-21 06:56 AM
Even worse if Jannies are the ones posting in there, because then they will get labeled for having bias against X person, which is a pretty easy argument to make when the channel history is searchable.
🔇26-Jun-21 06:56 AM
When people do that, we kinda just tell them eat shit.
Mumu from NYC26-Jun-21 06:57 AM
the age old trolley problem
🔇26-Jun-21 06:57 AM
It’s happened several times.
Not a problem.
Black Lily26-Jun-21 06:57 AM
Moub...
🔇26-Jun-21 06:57 AM
If a jannie/mod can’t handle it, then they shouldn’t be one.
Simple.
Mumu from NYC26-Jun-21 06:57 AM
hate everyone equally :^)
🔇26-Jun-21 06:57 AM
Moub, Tiger, Luna…
Mumu from NYC26-Jun-21 06:58 AM
please please please invite luna the blue pony
🔇26-Jun-21 06:58 AM
They were banned day one.
Mumu from NYC26-Jun-21 06:58 AM
LMAO
Brainy26-Jun-21 06:58 AM
Yeah I just bring it up because it's essentially putting out enforcement (and enforcement) out there for criticism when they don't need to be. Also it would be less controversial for us to make it private now than if we do it later if/when it does become a problem.
Our enforcement and enforcers.* Can't edit.
Mumu from NYC26-Jun-21 06:59 AM
transparency is needed
🔇26-Jun-21 06:59 AM
Won’t become a problem, never has. Those that brigade for release of someone is always shitposting, or it’s Neko/zan
Mumu from NYC26-Jun-21 06:59 AM
to an extent ofc
Pineapples26-Jun-21 06:59 AM
Yeah, we've always tried to be open with everyone about what we do and why.
It's why we have the audit log visible to everyone, so mods can't sneakily do shit without anyone knowing what happened or who did it.
Black Lily26-Jun-21 07:00 AM
And nobody respects neko or zan(edited)
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🔇26-Jun-21 07:00 AM
I wanted to keep mod chat open as well, but it’s better to have secret talk anyways.
Brainy26-Jun-21 07:00 AM
Then the only concern would be user resentment and rallying around a user being targeted.
🔇26-Jun-21 07:00 AM
No one here has enough concentration for that.
Mumu from NYC26-Jun-21 07:01 AM
that's already happened in the past to some extent
🔇26-Jun-21 07:01 AM
And if they do, they know the person being bullied deserves it.
Mumu from NYC26-Jun-21 07:01 AM
pineapples would get the brunt of it mostly iirc
🔇26-Jun-21 07:01 AM
I mean pineapples/moub is the largest example.
Black Lily26-Jun-21 07:01 AM
I probably wouldn't use the channel if it was open
Pineapples26-Jun-21 07:01 AM
People will claim someone's being targeted occasionally, but they're just looking for an excuse to bitch. So we tell them to fuck off or simply don't respond to them.
Mumu from NYC26-Jun-21 07:02 AM
victim complex
Black Lily26-Jun-21 07:02 AM
If only then knew what targeting looked like
Black Lily
I probably wouldn't use the channel if it was open
Pineapples26-Jun-21 07:02 AM
Yeah, we'd probably end up DMing each other about things, meaning it's less of a discussion since no one will know everything being talked about.
Black Lily
If only then knew what targeting looked like
Mumu from NYC26-Jun-21 07:02 AM
90% of nsfwchat would've been timed out
Brainy26-Jun-21 07:02 AM
I'd still strongly suggest that what gets posted there gets posted by a bot.
🔇26-Jun-21 07:03 AM
Nah, it’s fine rainy, don’t think about it too much.
Brainy26-Jun-21 07:03 AM
Maybe we could have a mod only channel where we post the statement and the bit mirrors it in that channel.
Black Lily26-Jun-21 07:03 AM
There was never anything stopping us from just banning people we didn't like for zero reason
Mumu from NYC26-Jun-21 07:03 AM
albeit most of the bans were honestly funny as hell
Brainy26-Jun-21 07:03 AM
A controversial banning could get any one of us targeted for doxxing, swatting, really bad stuff.
🔇26-Jun-21 07:03 AM
People will always bitch, and if it’s a bot posting the bans/kicks it will be worse.
Pineapples26-Jun-21 07:03 AM
People will get autistic about it and figure out who did what by looking at the writing style, who was active at the time, etc.. They may not get it right, but they'll still stir shit about someone anyway.
Brainy26-Jun-21 07:03 AM
It just takes one controversy.
Black Lily26-Jun-21 07:04 AM
I can't be satted
Brainy26-Jun-21 07:04 AM
That's why you have a macro, just like Discord does.
Then all statements are consistent and you can't identify which Jannie was behind the action.
Pineapples26-Jun-21 07:04 AM
I guess maybe having a predefined list of keywords could work, but it's still trying to hide what we're doing a bit more than we're comfortable with.
🔇26-Jun-21 07:04 AM
We may be retarded, but we do fine for the most part. Just beefing up the bot is all we really need to do.
Taking a serious approach to this will burn anyone out.
This isn’t a job, we do it for free.
Mumu from NYC26-Jun-21 07:06 AM
🔇26-Jun-21 07:06 AM
Yes.
Brainy26-Jun-21 07:06 AM
So in this case the only thing we are trying to hide is which mod gave the statement. However, we (mods) would know who gave the statement from that channel. We (mods) would also be better incentivized to be a check and balance for other mods and have oversight over what we as a body are doing.
🔇26-Jun-21 07:06 AM
The pineapples/moub thing was because moubs vr died around the time he was active. So it just lined up.
Brainy26-Jun-21 07:07 AM
Everything I'm suggesting is actually to reduce burnout and recrimination, so it's less stressful or risk being a Jannie.
🔇26-Jun-21 07:07 AM
Each mod is their own judge and jury. Other mods can give their opinions on their rulings if they want.
Pineapples26-Jun-21 07:07 AM
I remember I was often the only one active when all the EUs woke up as well, which meant #general instantly turned into a massive erp session, so I ended up being the one having to deal with it all the time.
🔇26-Jun-21 07:08 AM
Yeah, Eu was bad.
With nsfw-chat it’s not as terrible.
Pineapples26-Jun-21 07:08 AM
I did get burned out, but now I just rarely respond to anyone complaining.
🔇26-Jun-21 07:09 AM
Burned out from being the only one on at the time. Which is understandable.
Brainy26-Jun-21 07:09 AM
My concern is a controversial ban we could all decide on together could be communicated by one individual and result in recrimination.
🔇26-Jun-21 07:09 AM
Dealing with people while the rest of the mods were asleep.
Pineapples26-Jun-21 07:10 AM
More just that I got sick of all the idiots trying to find stupid loopholes or excuses.
🔇26-Jun-21 07:10 AM
Ye
Brainy26-Jun-21 07:10 AM
When dealing with autism of the internet and people in countries with no legal accountability.
🔇26-Jun-21 07:11 AM
If it worries you that much, I can just use a dummy account to post those things. It’s not like bans/ kicks are often.
We have only actually banned a handful of people
Two of those that were banned tried to come back and were rebanned. There’s not really any problems on that side of stuff.
Brainy26-Jun-21 07:14 AM
Yeah it may be that it never becomes a problem at all.
But I'm more worried about the 1 schizo who could become a problem.
Then someone gets doxxed, swatted, etc., because they're held solely accountable for the action.
🔇26-Jun-21 07:16 AM
Most of the schizos we have are more likely to commit suicide tho.
Mumu from NYC26-Jun-21 07:16 AM
Brainy26-Jun-21 07:16 AM
It's not a thing you can really predict apart from knowing it's a possibility.
Black Lily26-Jun-21 07:16 AM
I think even our schizos understand doxing and swatting is a big no no
Mumu from NYC26-Jun-21 07:17 AM
do they though?
🔇26-Jun-21 07:17 AM
Also, there have been a few instances of people being doxxed, none of them were mods tho.
Black Lily26-Jun-21 07:17 AM
We've only had three so I think so
Brainy26-Jun-21 07:17 AM
I mean I'm sure 4Chan thought the same thing before it had actual psychos posting about Christchurch and mass shootings.
It's a thing you don't expect to happen until it does.
🔇26-Jun-21 07:17 AM
I mean, big scary 4chan at it again….
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
We’re full of betas and neets.
Brainy26-Jun-21 07:18 AM
Risk of recrimination for moderator actions is is high the larger the community and the more people come to value it.
Black Lily26-Jun-21 07:18 AM
I have the benefit of being able to shoot someone for stepping foot on my property
The bottom line is do we want people to have to fear recrimination for becoming a jannie or taking any moderation action because it's being put on full blast.
@Black Lily I'm not talking about someone doxxing you and coming to your house.
I'm referring to swatting.
Black Lily26-Jun-21 07:19 AM
I know lol
Brainy26-Jun-21 07:20 AM
My last job, I actually had to talk to my local sheriff about setting up essentially a "safe word" for 911.
So that if I was every doxxed, swat couldn't be sent out, 911 couldn't be sent out, unless I provided the "safe word".
Which is actually a huge risk since I live alone and if I was incapacitated, then they couldn't respond.
Brainy
The bottom line is do we want people to have to fear recrimination for becoming a jannie or taking any moderation action because it's being put on full blast.
Mumu from NYC26-Jun-21 07:20 AM
unlikely, like the current mods have said so far they throw a short temper tantrum and they drop it completely
quite literally punching the air
Black Lily26-Jun-21 07:21 AM
And Jelly isn't here
🔇26-Jun-21 07:21 AM
Anyways, I think it’s fine for the most part. You havent been part of this community as long as the rest of us.
Brainy26-Jun-21 07:21 AM
Well I've said all I'll say on it. At the end of the day it's your decision. But this is just my advice.
🔇26-Jun-21 07:22 AM
Jelly won’t come here, it’s fine.
Brainy26-Jun-21 07:22 AM
If you don't think it will be a problem, then I'll trust it won't become a problem, and we can just return to this discussion if it becomes one.
Black Lily26-Jun-21 07:22 AM
If only he wouldn't go to the thread either
🔇26-Jun-21 07:22 AM
Sadly I can’t help with that.
Brainy26-Jun-21 07:23 AM
It doesn't matter how long I've been here. Communities grow and evolve organically. Remember the very first server and the guy who deleted it because, "it wasn't like 4Chan anymore"?
The one thing to expect is new people, new problems.
🔇26-Jun-21 07:23 AM
But yeah, rainy it’ll be alright. The first one was deleted because he got wasted.
And had burnout real bad.
Black Lily26-Jun-21 07:24 AM
And he's schizophrenic
Brainy26-Jun-21 07:24 AM
But it's not a crime to only treat something as a problem when it becomes a problem. That's prudent too. So I'll trust your judgment on what you think is best.
🔇26-Jun-21 07:24 AM
That too.
Brainy26-Jun-21 07:25 AM
I think we're already setup to doing things 500% better in the long run.
🔇26-Jun-21 07:25 AM
We will do just fine.
Brainy26-Jun-21 07:25 AM
🔇26-Jun-21 07:28 AM
Forget the crazy guy, this is my stance. (;
Mumu from NYC26-Jun-21 07:30 AM
Brainy26-Jun-21 07:30 AM
Holy shit
This
I will do all I can to help you guys deal with the worst of them. Including Discord.
Mumu from NYC26-Jun-21 07:31 AM
I still think it's hilarious the vanity url is powergrab
Thank you asylum
Brainy26-Jun-21 07:32 AM
I have faith we can do it without turning this place into safe space gulag like Discord wants. (edited)
Goddammit I edited again.
Mumu from NYC
I still think it's hilarious the vanity url is powergrab
🔇26-Jun-21 07:33 AM
The plan is to leave it powergrab until we come up with something better.
Mumu from NYC26-Jun-21 07:34 AM
That's gonna be tough
Brainy26-Jun-21 07:34 AM
VirtualRealityGeneral too long?
Jesus when I type it out
It's like a mile long lol
🔇26-Jun-21 07:35 AM
It’s too long lol
Black Lily26-Jun-21 07:35 AM
Just vrg should be fine
🔇26-Jun-21 07:35 AM
Not because it won’t fit, but just because it’s a pain.
Brainy26-Jun-21 07:35 AM
Yeah I didn't even realize it until I wrote it out lol
Can it be three characters?
🔇26-Jun-21 07:35 AM
Yeah
Brainy26-Jun-21 07:35 AM
I think that's actually really good (VRG).
If we can get away with three characters long.
My vote is Lily's suggestion
Black Lily26-Jun-21 07:36 AM
But /vrg will lead to more people that have only heard of us from vrchat joining
🔇26-Jun-21 07:36 AM
It’s why it was yubucord before.
Brainy26-Jun-21 07:36 AM
So long as we have the thread gating entry is that really a problem?
🔇26-Jun-21 07:37 AM
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Brainy26-Jun-21 07:37 AM
Asking because I actually have no idea if it has been?
Futanari26-Jun-21 07:39 AM
disable dyno bot in here so it can fuck off with the edit message system
Brainy26-Jun-21 07:39 AM
Yeah I made that suggestion too.
🔇26-Jun-21 07:40 AM
I’ll have to do that tomorrow when I’m not cuddling my kot in bed.
Black Lily26-Jun-21 07:40 AM
Put the cat on your head
Brainy26-Jun-21 07:40 AM
I actually think it's a bad idea to have that channel public, even if this channel is not being aggregated, because people may not like that they have no power to delete their posts from the server.
People want to be able to edit and/or delete what they posted.
Black Lily26-Jun-21 07:41 AM
It'll be full of wintermute's messages
Mumu from NYC26-Jun-21 07:41 AM
LOL
🔇26-Jun-21 07:41 AM
This is fine.
Mumu from NYC26-Jun-21 07:41 AM
Fucking hell dude
Brainy26-Jun-21 07:42 AM
Saying this as someone who periodically purges what I commit to servers because of cancel culture.
🔇26-Jun-21 07:43 AM
Never delete things, never edit things.
As it should be.
Mumu from NYC26-Jun-21 07:43 AM
It it's funny to see the horrible typos though
Black Lily26-Jun-21 07:55 AM
This one already has 100 more than Ryder's
Brainy26-Jun-21 08:03 AM
Any reason why we have so many spinoffs?
Mumu from NYC26-Jun-21 08:03 AM
Power grab
🔇26-Jun-21 08:05 AM
People saw the nuke and tried to powergrab.
Also most others weren’t set up for a large wave of people to join.
Brainy
Any reason why we have so many spinoffs?
Distoibed26-Jun-21 08:07 AM
"its time for me to be the new leader because i know that I'll do a better job"
Brainy26-Jun-21 08:07 AM
It looks like some people don't know Black Lily is moderating this one and would prefer this one.
All I'm saying is, the server blew up at the perfect time for Mona and I's collaboration effort of the feetcord
🔇26-Jun-21 08:14 AM
Feet cord is going well.
Mumu from NYC26-Jun-21 08:14 AM
Somehow
Distoibed26-Jun-21 08:15 AM
it's a populair fetish
and I do think that a "spring clean" isn't that bad
Black Lily26-Jun-21 08:20 AM
Whoever holds the keys just needs to be stable
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<326-Jun-21 08:31 AM
we definitely don't need any more owner melty's
Distoibed26-Jun-21 08:31 AM
sadly it's included in the /vrg/ discord package
Black Lily26-Jun-21 08:32 AM
But I don'r have melties
🔇26-Jun-21 08:32 AM
Eventually I will have the largest melty and it will be when we all move to guilded or matrix or whatever kills discord.
(:
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<326-Jun-21 08:35 AM
also are we just going to let carl exist as carl
Black Lily
But I don'r have melties
Distoibed26-Jun-21 08:36 AM
we have 2 other discords
they'll have the melties
Black Lily26-Jun-21 08:36 AM
Carl is a very special boy
🔇26-Jun-21 08:36 AM
Carl is containing himself so far.
🔇
Carl is containing himself so far.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<326-Jun-21 08:36 AM
is he though
🔇26-Jun-21 08:37 AM
Yes
Distoibed26-Jun-21 08:37 AM
I do think that we're able to handle carl now with our new regimen
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<326-Jun-21 08:38 AM
I guess i dont think that you should really have to "handle" people but as long he is able to somewhat restrained i guess its fine
Black Lily26-Jun-21 08:39 AM
What about Eva
🔇26-Jun-21 08:39 AM
I kinda hate him tbh
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<326-Jun-21 08:41 AM
I personally think less problem children is better when it comes to that, because you only have problems if there are people causing them
also if kai-chan<3
#7475 tries to join they were kicked from the meetup for being underage
Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.
Distoibed26-Jun-21 08:42 AM
Got the same vibe from him
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3
also if kai-chan<3
#7475 tries to join they were kicked from the meetup for being underage
🔇26-Jun-21 08:42 AM
Oh, good to know. Let Ryder know because apparently Ryder and nemlin were drinking with them.
Or Shonen, idk
Distoibed26-Jun-21 08:43 AM
I mean, we can kick whoever we want tbh, if they don't like it, they literally have 2 other servers to join
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<326-Jun-21 08:44 AM
they didnt say they were but everything they were asked made them seem like a 14yr old that had access to moms liquor cabinet
🔇26-Jun-21 08:44 AM
Sounds like sticks
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<326-Jun-21 08:44 AM
yep
🔇26-Jun-21 08:44 AM
Except an alcoholic.
Distoibed26-Jun-21 08:45 AM
does he also sound like sticks?
or does this one have a deep voice?
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<326-Jun-21 08:45 AM
sound like a 12 yr old boy ask thier age they said 47
and various other things pointed to them being underage
Distoibed26-Jun-21 08:45 AM
ah
I was gonna ask "just ask him about adult stuff"
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<326-Jun-21 08:46 AM
and he failed at that when we did
Black Lily26-Jun-21 08:51 AM
@#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3 he's already in Ryder's server
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<326-Jun-21 08:51 AM
yes
i know
onion, barron, worm, asami, and theo should all be able to back up them acting underage
again no proof they are, but
id recommend extensive vetting
Pineapples26-Jun-21 08:55 AM
That John Placeholder guy seems like a shit stirrer to me too. I also saw him in Ryder's server saying he was just going to shitpost in this one for no particular reason.
Dunno if anything should be done about him just yet, but someone to keep an eye on.
Black Lily26-Jun-21 08:58 AM
VanillaOatmeal is also most likely underage if you see him
Black Lily
VanillaOatmeal is also most likely underage if you see him
Distoibed26-Jun-21 09:00 AM
hasn't that guy been in here for a decent amount of time?
Black Lily26-Jun-21 09:00 AM
Yeah I just noticed he's in here
Futanari26-Jun-21 12:26 PM
That John Placeholder guy be posting toilet pissing shit
saying its a shitpost
Krial26-Jun-21 02:02 PM
Vanillaoatmeal idk if he’s underage or not
He’s hung out with kites crew a lot
I never got underage vibes from him but could be wrong
June26-Jun-21 02:23 PM
Took a minute to get caught up in here
Gonna setup the bot now
Let me piss then I'm free to chat
🔇26-Jun-21 02:24 PM
I’m going to murder the John guy, just got word from people that he’s generally just an asshole and a shithead in every community.
June26-Jun-21 02:24 PM
Sounds fine
🔇26-Jun-21 02:24 PM
Vauun told me he’s been in his air soft communities if you are wondering.
June26-Jun-21 02:25 PM
Saw that
Get more info from him?
🔇26-Jun-21 02:26 PM
Don’t need to, he’s just been stirring shit since he got here.
Krial26-Jun-21 02:26 PM
Also eva is fine
Annoying
And literally gets off on people blocking him(edited)
But banning will just make him a martyr and give him more credibility imo.
He’ll prolly go full melty on meets if he’s banned. Plus when he’s not sperging, he’s totally fine.
Just my thoughts on it
🔇26-Jun-21 02:28 PM
Yeah, I want to get rid of cancer early, not have it linger for a long time causing problems.
Eva is okay at best.
Krial26-Jun-21 02:30 PM
Could we have a way of letting people know like
“Hey. Stop sperging out or you’ll get kicked plz.”
Because I think it coming out of nowhere makes it look like a snap decision, or possibly blamed on one person sperging on another and banning them
Something like a warning is prolly going to be efficient, and give credibility to their ban
🔇26-Jun-21 02:31 PM
Yeah, that’s fine for people who have been here a while.
Or when they aren’t doing it on purpose.
Krial26-Jun-21 02:31 PM
Could also be posted in actions
So there’s a record of like
“ they were warned”
June26-Jun-21 02:47 PM
DM them the warning, then publicly post it in Actions (not the message) saying X was given a warning to stop doing Y
leave it as simple as possible and as little formality as you can
the more strict and professionally you take moderation the more vrg will fight you because its like luna
🔇26-Jun-21 02:48 PM
We can do that.
June26-Jun-21 02:48 PM
you have to boil the frog slowly
Distoibed26-Jun-21 02:49 PM
Eva is...
he's fine
he's just a meanie sometimes
June26-Jun-21 02:50 PM
thats fine and all
Distoibed26-Jun-21 02:50 PM
I mean yeah, he's threading that path
June26-Jun-21 02:50 PM
but I dont give a fuck warn him if he causes too much effort after awhile
Distoibed26-Jun-21 02:50 PM
I mean sure, go ahead
June26-Jun-21 02:50 PM
you make the call when hes wasting effort after awhile
Distoibed26-Jun-21 02:51 PM
but he's not the kind of guy that needs an immediate LOIC(edited)
June26-Jun-21 03:21 PM
*output-here
oh
Dal29026-Jun-21 03:21 PM
Generally I handled things like that, with a talk hey I got a bunch of people complaining about you doing X is that true
How they react is very informative
Shows who has the maturity and who has done the song and dance of dancing around crap for so long they react all sussy
@here don't abuse the bot commands, use *help to get the info on what they do
just dont fucking touch it, unless you get it
Futanari26-Jun-21 08:23 PM
Ight
Mumu from NYC26-Jun-21 08:25 PM
Brainy26-Jun-21 09:18 PM
How do we set the delay? Or is it just hardscoded to 24 hours?
Oh it's 6 hours?
Futanari26-Jun-21 09:18 PM
6 hours i believe
Brainy26-Jun-21 09:18 PM
Any way we can add to the list? I would only want to add high confidence slurs.
High confidence being few to no alternative acceptable societal uses.
Futanari26-Jun-21 09:20 PM
Not sure
🔇26-Jun-21 09:26 PM
What would you want added?
Brainy26-Jun-21 09:27 PM
niggardly : Don't Block
niggardliness : Don't Block
niggard : Don't Block
nigglier : Don't Block
I know some of these are actual words, but if people are clearly/obviously/reasonably using it in a context as a substitute for the n-word, then Discord is highly likely to strike it if it gets reported. Also how likely is the average user on this server to use those words normally with no racial connotation in a sentence?
🔇26-Jun-21 09:28 PM
And for that, humans need to interact
That parts not implemented yet.
not here there isnt
🔇26-Jun-21 09:40 PM
easier and faster to just let it all get deleted
Brainy26-Jun-21 09:40 PM
Yeah, that's the problem...
So we'd need to actually be alerted and check it.
If it was allowed.
🔇26-Jun-21 09:41 PM
yep, so fuck it. just blanket delete
Brainy26-Jun-21 09:41 PM
I'm fine with doing either. But yeah, the former is more work than the latter (blanket deletion).(edited)
I've always judged it contextually in other communities (volunteer and professional) that tolerate political speech because it's such a sensitive area.
But it is a lot more work to do that.
Distoibed26-Jun-21 09:42 PM
It'd be alright to block such words yeah
jus to be safe
🔇26-Jun-21 09:43 PM
i really dont care for pol (:
Distoibed26-Jun-21 09:44 PM
guessing it's because they don't think they are being extremist because they think their view is "alright and justified"
Brainy26-Jun-21 09:45 PM
Because people can't just behave.
Distoibed
guessing it's because they don't think they are being extremist because they think their view is "alright and justified"
Brainy26-Jun-21 09:46 PM
Yeah or, maybe their view is justified, maybe they are presenting it in a civil way, but it will invariably lead to someone responding in a more extreme, radicalized, or anti-Semitic way, and then the conversation just devolves from there.
Distoibed26-Jun-21 09:49 PM
political talk on discord is idiotic anyways
Futanari26-Jun-21 09:51 PM
Well #happening is mostly political
But its not absurd
Distoibed26-Jun-21 10:00 PM
because most have the same opinion in there
unless we have a nu-frisky in there
I don't go in that chat
/u/GemManBad26-Jun-21 10:03 PM
Frisky era was great
The most fun that channel has ever seen
Futanari26-Jun-21 10:04 PM
Tenacious tiger lmao
@/u/GemManBad who were they?
/u/GemManBad26-Jun-21 10:13 PM
They was here before, about half a year ago now
Got bullied out or kicked, cant remember
Futanari26-Jun-21 10:19 PM
If i find some final fantasy player joining imma question them more
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes26-Jun-21 10:26 PM
both
tldr: tiger was harassing some nsfw artists and was also bothering people in workshop
so I've been told
workshop one I'm aware of, nsfw one was told to me
Futanari26-Jun-21 10:27 PM
I miss him
Dal29026-Jun-21 10:28 PM
He admitted to me and other people he didn't like the evil 4chans because he can't associate names to the posters
Lil too out of place, faked it too much, also annoying as all fuck, lock yourself in a room with him for a day or two
Futanari26-Jun-21 10:29 PM
He joined vrg from someone in vrca
If i do remember like 3 years ago
Dal29026-Jun-21 10:29 PM
I thought it was the 2hu guys
Futanari26-Jun-21 10:29 PM
Huh
Forgot about em
Dal29026-Jun-21 10:30 PM
Nepgeah and the rest of those guys
Futanari26-Jun-21 10:30 PM
Ah i remember now
Dal29026-Jun-21 10:31 PM
He also ate up too much time with jannie shit, people who demand what they did wrong and scream dindu
Clearly dindu
Futanari26-Jun-21 10:31 PM
He was 16 or 17 when i saw him the first time
Dal29026-Jun-21 10:32 PM
So he hung around /vrg/ for two years while underage
Plz no more
Futanari26-Jun-21 10:33 PM
:)
Perrine26-Jun-21 10:37 PM
Minors begone reee
2
Black Lily26-Jun-21 10:42 PM
Frisky was some unironic commy
Futanari26-Jun-21 10:44 PM
Ewwww im removing him
Black Lily26-Jun-21 10:45 PM
Tiger just wasn't 4chan at all
K3rn should have banned him when he first tried to police nsfw
Futanari26-Jun-21 11:10 PM
I love my kernfu
Futanari26-Jun-21 11:30 PM
Its cursed seeing people that join that i have mutual friends with
Black Lily26-Jun-21 11:31 PM
That's because you add everyone
Brainy
niggardly : Don't Block
niggardliness : Don't Block
niggard : Don't Block
nigglier : Don't Block
I know some of these are actual words, but if people are clearly/obviously/reasonably using it in a context as a substitute for the n-word, then Discord is highly likely to strike it if it gets reported. Also how likely is the average user on this server to use those words normally with no racial connotation in a sentence?
June26-Jun-21 11:37 PM
feel free to remove them! :)
I just went to a scrabble site and got all words containing x
no strawmans
people dont get a choice that their messages stay forever
if mods delete them tough.
JannieBotBOT26-Jun-21 11:41 PM
112 Pending messages to delete in queue.
0 Sweeps in progress:
Brainy26-Jun-21 11:56 PM
OMG I've done the same thing before (using Scrabble to populate whitelist) lol
Also regex is just
Futanari26-Jun-21 11:56 PM
Manami
They dont have vr
And they're here just to be a degen
Brainy26-Jun-21 11:57 PM
BTW if we actually do have evidence that someone is a minor we should not be allowing them access to any channel with NSFW.
Same with any users openly saying anything sexual to them.
It's a huge risk if anyone makes sexual comments targeted at them, even jokingly.
Black Lily26-Jun-21 11:58 PM
Minors aren't allowed in at all
Brainy26-Jun-21 11:58 PM
Good, that's the way to go.
Black Lily27-Jun-21 12:01 AM
Minors cause more issues than just that
They have way too much free time and usually spend it creating drama
Futanari27-Jun-21 12:02 AM
haha age of consent here is 15 haha thats not wrong
Black Lily27-Jun-21 12:03 AM
Shut up carl
Futanari27-Jun-21 12:04 AM
Theres a few more people in vrg that have said that
Black Lily27-Jun-21 12:07 AM
Cakey?
🔇27-Jun-21 12:09 AM
nono, thats 12 for cakey
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes27-Jun-21 12:12 AM
wait profile banners can be animated?
Futanari27-Jun-21 12:12 AM
Yeah
The one i have is from cold war
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes27-Jun-21 12:13 AM
cool
🔇27-Jun-21 12:13 AM
manami never causes any drama, and just wants to be shit on. i dont see why we shouldnt allow them
Futanari27-Jun-21 12:15 AM
They have no vr
And i remember when you guys kicked kenji from the other server for not having vr
Black Lily27-Jun-21 12:15 AM
They would enjoy being banned
Futanari27-Jun-21 12:18 AM
Im not trying to say kick them but its your choice honestly(edited)
Just giving out my way i see it
Black Lily27-Jun-21 12:19 AM
I think manami should be kicked
🔇27-Jun-21 12:20 AM
ill leave that decision up to you guys, it doesnt matter either way imo
Black Lily
I think manami should be kicked
🔇27-Jun-21 12:20 AM
do you just wanna make them cum?
Futanari27-Jun-21 12:20 AM
Omg
Quit your rp shit
And do something
🔇27-Jun-21 12:21 AM
thats not rp, thats what they will do
Futanari27-Jun-21 12:21 AM
Smh
Mumu from NYC27-Jun-21 12:21 AM
🔇27-Jun-21 12:21 AM
its a win/win for them lol
Black Lily27-Jun-21 12:21 AM
It's been three years and they still don't have vr
Rynkar is the only exception because he's always around and can barely afford to live
hmm I'll ask around tonight if anyone else got random ass requests
Futanari27-Jun-21 12:34 AM
2 visitors ciz they think youre female
Mumu from NYC27-Jun-21 12:34 AM
the thing is I don't go into publics at all
Futanari27-Jun-21 12:34 AM
1 trusted cuz they wanna sex you
Black Lily27-Jun-21 12:34 AM
That's usually some skids alts trying to farm trust rank
Mumu from NYC27-Jun-21 12:34 AM
and maybe get on for a few hours on weekends in vrg instances
Futanari27-Jun-21 12:34 AM
I always public hop
And when i see someone i meet at a pub
And see them in vrg
Theres something wrong
Futanari
And i remember when you guys kicked kenji from the other server for not having vr
Pineapples27-Jun-21 12:37 AM
That's not just for not having VR, though. He was a leech who'd surround himself with a bunch of drama and piss everyone off on a routine basis. Since he didn't have VR still, there was no good reason for him to stay.
Futanari27-Jun-21 12:38 AM
Ah
I remember hearing that
Black Lily27-Jun-21 12:39 AM
Also shit up the thread all the time
Pineapples27-Jun-21 12:39 AM
Did you never see him popping up and complaining that no one had talked to him? Guess you're lucky.
Black Lily27-Jun-21 12:40 AM
He'd sit in a vc alone for three hours then join the other one and complain that nobody joined him
1
Futanari27-Jun-21 12:40 AM
I've seen it in the thread yeah but most things I dont believe in til i see it myself
Black Lily
He'd sit in a vc alone for three hours then join the other one and complain that nobody joined him
Krial27-Jun-21 12:53 AM
Wow.
Futanari27-Jun-21 12:55 AM
I feel bad for him honestly
Black Lily27-Jun-21 12:55 AM
I don't
He's 36
Krial27-Jun-21 12:57 AM
I wouldn’t feel bad for anyone doing that.
Futanari27-Jun-21 01:00 AM
Idk man
I care about people
Black Lily27-Jun-21 01:02 AM
I don't feel bad for people that do it to themselves
Like moub
Futanari27-Jun-21 01:05 AM
Moub is a lost cause
Krial27-Jun-21 01:06 AM
I care too, but that’s malicious attention seeking. That’s someone attempting to drag people down, not drag themselves down.
Also why the fuck doesn’t manami just get a quest 2
Futanari27-Jun-21 01:07 AM
Too poor
Black Lily27-Jun-21 01:07 AM
Because they get off on being ridiculed
Even if they had the money they wouldn't get a headset
It goes against their interests
Black Lily
Tiger just wasn't 4chan at all
Perrine27-Jun-21 01:46 AM
Wait, really?
Brainy
BTW if we actually do have evidence that someone is a minor we should not be allowing them access to any channel with NSFW.
Perrine27-Jun-21 01:47 AM
As a 4chan group, minors should absolutely be purged on sight.
If someone wants to be underageb&, they better be able to pretend otherwise. That's what I did for 4chan
Black Lily27-Jun-21 01:47 AM
You couldn't tell?
Black Lily
You couldn't tell?
Perrine27-Jun-21 01:48 AM
4chan these days is so fucking huge, I wouldn't be surprised to find out people like that are using the site
but learning they're not 4chan explains a fair bit
Black Lily27-Jun-21 01:49 AM
Perrine27-Jun-21 01:49 AM
>thread doesn't have names for messages
>doesn't have DMs
oh christ
Can we move to IRC and filter all the plebs
Futanari27-Jun-21 01:50 AM
Just adapt
Perrine27-Jun-21 01:50 AM
I know it's not as good a user experience but there was certainly a charm to the very nature of communication being a barrier to entry
Alas. Time marches on...
Futanari27-Jun-21 01:51 AM
Si
Perrine27-Jun-21 01:52 AM
So this profanity bot scans every 6 hours and purges all messages that contain words in the blacklist?
Futanari27-Jun-21 01:52 AM
P much yeah
People dont loose their freedom
Perrine27-Jun-21 01:52 AM
A good idea to keep the discord groomers from trying to shit on the discord
Worst case is someone uses a blacklisted word right before a purge, I suppose
Other servers I use have bots that just instantly delete messages on the blacklist, but this is more elegant
and might even pacify some rowdy folk who would pitch a fit if they knew, but don't regularly look back.
Until they search for the wordcount for giggles and get confused, I suppose.
This shit wouldn't be a problem in IRC, just sayin'
Brainy27-Jun-21 01:56 AM
When will we get the channel for flagging?
Perrine
As a 4chan group, minors should absolutely be purged on sight.
If someone wants to be underageb&, they better be able to pretend otherwise. That's what I did for 4chan
Brainy27-Jun-21 01:57 AM
100% agree with this. I wasn't aware of the policy since when I first joined VRG there were minors at the meetups. It's really dangerous to allow for obvious reasons.
Perrine27-Jun-21 01:58 AM
Yeah. Seriously.
Futanari27-Jun-21 01:58 AM
Im wondering how many people in vrg have done with a minor without them knowing lmao
Perrine27-Jun-21 01:58 AM
Morally, legally, and just personally, I don't want to see minors about.
Brainy27-Jun-21 01:58 AM
Yeah that's exactly what I warned about when I first joined VRG.
Perrine27-Jun-21 01:59 AM
I remember when I was a kid. I was an annoying piece of shit. I don't want to be around that.
Brainy27-Jun-21 01:59 AM
Just so you guys know, if VRChat ever comes into evidence of it, they are legally obligated to report the person to NCMEC.
Same with Discord.
Futanari27-Jun-21 01:59 AM
Well yeah theres a fuck ton
Brainy27-Jun-21 02:00 AM
So the people just doing it with randos at meetups without caring to find out their age are risking ending up on an actual sexual predator list and facing criminal charges and that never goes away off your record.
Perrine27-Jun-21 02:00 AM
The decision's easy to make, tbh. 4chan is an 18+ website. On every board.
Brainy27-Jun-21 02:00 AM
It's more serious since they're doing it across state borders due to the nature of the Internet.
Futanari27-Jun-21 02:00 AM
Most peeps that join the meetups are just randos now
Perrine27-Jun-21 02:00 AM
Children having access to VR is a mistake. Christ. Who the fuck is spending this much money on niche hardware for kids anyway
Futanari27-Jun-21 02:01 AM
I only join the meetups when im desktopping now
Brainy27-Jun-21 02:02 AM
I remember I spoke out against some girl being there after my fifth meetup because she said she was 16 and a bunch of people got all mad at me saying I was jealous of her.
Perrine27-Jun-21 02:02 AM
what the fuck
Brainy27-Jun-21 02:02 AM
"So what if she's 16, she's not causing any problems."
Perrine27-Jun-21 02:02 AM
minors should be shamed, hazed, and ejected
By letting you know they're underaged they've already fucked up
Brainy27-Jun-21 02:03 AM
It's literally endangering everyone, even the minor.
Especially the minor I should say. lol
VRChat, Discord, none of them do enough to combat it either.
Perrine27-Jun-21 02:03 AM
Black Lily27-Jun-21 02:04 AM
Minors will be shot on sight
Perrine27-Jun-21 02:04 AM
Ironic (or nefarious) how all these dumb policies and ideas and whatnot of "inclusion" and "being nice" open the doors for abuse of minors...and potential hard to unknowing adults.
hardship
Brainy27-Jun-21 02:05 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if we see them cracking down hard on adult content in the future just because they want to push it as a game for 13+.
Perrine27-Jun-21 02:05 AM
Well, given that the Quest is exploding, and the headset the chilluns have is the Quest...
Yeah, I can definitely see that.
Brainy27-Jun-21 02:05 AM
They need to introduce actual age gating.
If the community is going to be preserved
Perrine27-Jun-21 02:06 AM
Either way, I say all minors should be ejected from /vrg/ with prejudice
Black Lily27-Jun-21 02:06 AM
We've caught Ron trying to groom kids in public B clubs before
Perrine27-Jun-21 02:06 AM
It's bad enough dealing with immature adults
Brainy27-Jun-21 02:06 AM
Are you serious or joking?
Are they on this server?(edited)
Black Lily27-Jun-21 02:06 AM
I'm serious
Perrine27-Jun-21 02:06 AM
Dunno who Ron is
Black Lily27-Jun-21 02:06 AM
Ron is a vrc dev
Brainy27-Jun-21 02:06 AM
Wtf?
Perrine27-Jun-21 02:06 AM
Does he play smash bros
Brainy27-Jun-21 02:06 AM
Any evidence of this?
Black Lily27-Jun-21 02:06 AM
Nothing saved
Mumu from NYC27-Jun-21 02:07 AM
jesus
Perrine27-Jun-21 02:07 AM
Seriously though. Banning minors? Nothing of value is lost. Literally only win win win
Mumu from NYC27-Jun-21 02:08 AM
unless you are ron
Brainy27-Jun-21 02:08 AM
If you guys have any evidence and I mean any evidence of that, you should report it.
They can't just sit on it because he's a dev.
They have a legal obligation to report it to NCMEC.
Black Lily27-Jun-21 02:09 AM
Remember when Ron used to join private instances while invisible to jack off
Brainy27-Jun-21 02:09 AM
How is it nobody has any video or recording of this? lol
Okay, so it’s still being worked on, but instead of a channel where we have to copy paste links to messages, it’s going to work off of an emote reaction. When a mod/jannie flags a message using that reaction, it’ll automatically remove the reaction, and add it to the queue for deletion.
Fastest and easiest way we could think of to implement it.
Not having a channel saves us from people having things like better discord asking what the channel named #flagging is for and why it’s private.
Pineapples27-Jun-21 03:05 AM
That'd be pretty handy. Copying, pasting, and swapping channels would be a pain, especially when there are several messages.
🔇27-Jun-21 03:05 AM
Yeah.
The emoji is going to be
Pineapples27-Jun-21 03:05 AM
People would probably see the reaction pop up and disappear, but if you just wait until it's a page or two off screen then it's unlikely anyone will see.
🔇27-Jun-21 03:06 AM
Even if it’s not, people will likely chalk it up to discord being shitty.
Even if it’s not off screen*
Pineapples27-Jun-21 03:08 AM
Maybe at first, but I don't doubt some people will start noticing it when they see it multiple times.
But still easy enough to avoid by just waiting a bit.
🔇27-Jun-21 03:09 AM
Yeah that will help prevent the shit-stirrers from acting on it.
Brainy
Any evidence of this?
Distoibed27-Jun-21 05:21 AM
from what I heard it kinda went like this:
>vrg friends+ instance
>rando joins
>rando: "Hey, I'm looking for Ron"
>everyone: Ron is in here!?
>ron leaves
Futanari
I feel bad for him honestly
Distoibed27-Jun-21 05:38 AM
then you're gonna feel bad for a long time(edited)
Futanari27-Jun-21 05:39 AM
its been 3 years since i felt bad for him
now im like
bruh quit being a pussy and get with peeps
Distoibed27-Jun-21 05:39 AM
I used to be the same until I realized that if I kept doing it, I'd feel bad for everybody and unable to feel good for myself
Futanari27-Jun-21 05:39 AM
si
Distoibed27-Jun-21 05:40 AM
so now I give everybody 1 serious feel but if they don't fix it I'll make fun of it
Not having a channel saves us from people having things like better discord asking what the channel named #flagging is for and why it’s private.
Brainy27-Jun-21 01:09 PM
It works, but I've used this method before and people will pick up on it. Just keep that in mind. Also thanks for developing this!
Pineapples
People would probably see the reaction pop up and disappear, but if you just wait until it's a page or two off screen then it's unlikely anyone will see.
Brainy27-Jun-21 01:09 PM
Yeah, this is what I would suggest.
Perrine27-Jun-21 01:15 PM
Reminder that you cannot react to posts from someone who has you blocked
Perrine
Reminder that you cannot react to posts from someone who has you blocked
🔇27-Jun-21 01:27 PM
Just don’t be blocked :4head:
Perrine27-Jun-21 01:34 PM
Distoibed27-Jun-21 01:36 PM
@🔇 what was the verdict on vanillaoatmeal?
🔇27-Jun-21 01:37 PM
I don’t remember, what was the problem?
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<327-Jun-21 01:38 PM
i don't think wed be losing much all the do is roll waifu bot
Distoibed27-Jun-21 01:39 PM
cus lily said something about him being underage
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes27-Jun-21 01:39 PM
I forget since it was never my job
are welcome people supposed to give the thread url number or the general number(edited)
🔇27-Jun-21 01:40 PM
Either works.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<327-Jun-21 01:40 PM
both are fine
🔇27-Jun-21 01:40 PM
@Black Lily
Perrine
Reminder that you cannot react to posts from someone who has you blocked
Brainy27-Jun-21 01:40 PM
Even as a mod of the server? That will be a problem.
Distoibed27-Jun-21 01:40 PM
@[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes the dude has some wacky vrlewd chats in the lewd market
Distoibed
@🔇 what was the verdict on vanillaoatmeal?
Brainy27-Jun-21 01:41 PM
I think there was suspicion that they were underage, but there wasn't any proof from what I recall?
🔇27-Jun-21 01:43 PM
Verdict is do whatever you want, this ain’t a one man ship.
Brainy27-Jun-21 01:43 PM
Would I be able to get an alt to join real quick to test this (not being able to react to someone who has you blocked)?
🔇27-Jun-21 01:43 PM
You don’t need to, it’s true.
Brainy27-Jun-21 01:44 PM
Wow
Yeah people will pick up on that being what's getting posts deleted.
🔇27-Jun-21 01:44 PM
If they go so far to block someone to be a shithead, kill them.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<327-Jun-21 01:44 PM
what does blocking in discord even do? I've never blocked anyone and don't think I've been blocked
Brainy27-Jun-21 01:44 PM
People here are smart and even on a Twitch server I modded, people picked up on it before.
@#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3 It just makes it so whenever the blocked person types it censors the messages for you (although you can still click to view them and still see them committing to chat, which is pointless).
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3
what does blocking in discord even do? I've never blocked anyone and don't think I've been blocked
Distoibed27-Jun-21 01:45 PM
[1 blocked message]
every time a blocked person types
🔇27-Jun-21 01:46 PM
Blocking on discord does almost nothing. It prevents DMs, reactions, and hides their message behind a button.
Brainy27-Jun-21 01:46 PM
It's the most ass backward design from a user experience perspective because it's not actually allowing for deescalation or ignoring a user.
Distoibed27-Jun-21 01:46 PM
basically a
"Hey this person you blocked typed something! Wanna find out what it is? Click on me!"
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<327-Jun-21 01:46 PM
lol
sound about right
🔇27-Jun-21 01:46 PM
It’s just to prevent DMs more than anything.
Better discord removes the post completely iirc
Brainy27-Jun-21 01:47 PM
I was literally told by someone on that team at Discord that it's intended to "preserve historical context for the flow of conversation." Which is dumb.
Yeah, but if the intention is to block DMs while also allowing moderators to toggle a message for administrative purposes, it's still dumb.
It should just be the toggle is there for moderators of the server only.
Not every user everywhere that may have a user blocked.
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes27-Jun-21 01:48 PM
thats why better discord block is better
it completely deletes their existence to you
well outside of voice calls
Brainy27-Jun-21 01:48 PM
That's how it should be.
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes27-Jun-21 01:48 PM
they still show up in voice chat
Mumu from NYC27-Jun-21 01:49 PM
I am a vrchat block enjoyer
Brainy27-Jun-21 01:49 PM
I can't imagine how many low value reports they must get for harassment against users who are literally blocked already just because their implementation of the block "feature" is so ass backwards.
JannieBotBOT27-Jun-21 02:24 PM
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Black Lily27-Jun-21 04:03 PM
Why do I keep getting scammers
Black Lily
Why do I keep getting scammers
Distoibed27-Jun-21 04:04 PM
maye you're in gay asf servers
Mumu from NYC27-Jun-21 04:04 PM
black lily will you vote for my csgo esports team
Distoibed27-Jun-21 04:04 PM
or somehow your linked steam is 2-way
so they can conatct you
usually the steam scams happen when they see you have valuable shit in your inventory
Black Lily27-Jun-21 04:05 PM
Stop playing csgo
Mumu from NYC27-Jun-21 04:05 PM
i cannot
also that's another form of the scam lol
can a mod boot the rando in welcome already
lmfao dist
Distoibed27-Jun-21 04:07 PM
done
Mumu from NYC27-Jun-21 04:07 PM
let me check too
Distoibed27-Jun-21 04:07 PM
it's all emote erp
huggies
kisses
mouthy
all over
Mumu from NYC27-Jun-21 04:08 PM
i regret searching now
Black Lily27-Jun-21 04:09 PM
Why are you in that discord
Distoibed27-Jun-21 04:09 PM
to laugh at people
and to look at the cringe "about me"
and post them in here
Mumu from NYC27-Jun-21 04:09 PM
it's good for vetting
Black Lily27-Jun-21 04:09 PM
True
Mumu from NYC27-Jun-21 04:09 PM
if you share more than like, 1 mutual vrc related server(edited)
Black Lily27-Jun-21 04:09 PM
Post their about me
Perrine27-Jun-21 04:09 PM
what discord?
Mumu from NYC27-Jun-21 04:10 PM
Black Lily
Post their about me
Distoibed27-Jun-21 04:11 PM
Black Lily27-Jun-21 04:12 PM
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes27-Jun-21 04:34 PM
@#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3 robot in a man suit would have been funnier
with the terminator
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<327-Jun-21 05:04 PM
But im not funny
Black Lily27-Jun-21 05:07 PM
>animal ears
Funny lookin'
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<327-Jun-21 05:09 PM
not wrong
Distoibed
Click to see attachment🖼️
Futanari27-Jun-21 06:06 PM
So hot
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes27-Jun-21 06:39 PM
So
the url isn't at the top of the thread
and he said he got it at the top of the thread
Perrine27-Jun-21 06:44 PM
was it at the top of a recent thread?
Distoibed27-Jun-21 06:52 PM
only in the url bar
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes27-Jun-21 06:57 PM
its not in here
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes27-Jun-21 07:06 PM
also I am referring to the discord url
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<327-Jun-21 07:40 PM
Its been posted inside the the thread a few times in the last couple
And its in the rentry
Which is in the op
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes27-Jun-21 08:05 PM
Ehh
I would have been more stingy and asked exactly where he got the url
But I guess I'm more of a hard ass
Futanari27-Jun-21 08:07 PM
You should be
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<327-Jun-21 08:07 PM
i mean he was able to answer a semi specific board question
the /meg/ answer and was he liked it was pretty good
I don't mind desktoppers if they are interesting. but hell no to those who don't even plan on getting vr in the future
Krial28-Jun-21 02:01 PM
Honestly I think a pseudo time limit is prolly best. Forces them to make a decision
June28-Jun-21 02:02 PM
just ping it every x and ask hey, you getting vr soon? and kick people that dont respond after y
or
just ping them whenever, but never bother to properly follow up as it takes effort
explicit vrs nagging
Perrine28-Jun-21 02:35 PM
Flattops
Pancake
BBC (Big Bunny Cock)28-Jun-21 02:47 PM
manami instantly gets yeeted
Black Lily28-Jun-21 03:24 PM
@BBC (Big Bunny Cock) now's your chance
Stannic28-Jun-21 03:27 PM
KICK KICK KICK KICK
Mumu from NYC28-Jun-21 03:33 PM
bay zed
Futanari28-Jun-21 04:13 PM
Bye bye
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes28-Jun-21 04:22 PM
Who in the fuck was tippy
Distoibed28-Jun-21 04:22 PM
tippy is tippy
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes28-Jun-21 04:23 PM
Black Lily28-Jun-21 04:41 PM
This is tippy
Azuth28-Jun-21 04:47 PM
never heard of or seen them before
Black Lily28-Jun-21 04:48 PM
They've been around for about a year and a half
SPOILER
Distoibed28-Jun-21 04:51 PM
tippy makes unique avatars
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes28-Jun-21 05:09 PM
I thought you were implying tippy was catdog
Black Lily28-Jun-21 05:11 PM
No
If it was catdog I'd say so
Alts are cringe
Unless it's for a specific purpose other than trying to get away with some shit you caused
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[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes
I thought you were implying tippy was catdog
Distoibed28-Jun-21 05:17 PM
tippy uses that chibi cartoon version of catdog's model
Black Lily28-Jun-21 05:19 PM
Tippy funny
Distoibed28-Jun-21 05:19 PM
he blocked me for making penis jokes involving "just the tip"
Black Lily28-Jun-21 05:20 PM
Deserved it
🔇28-Jun-21 05:42 PM
Whoever decides to vet sali grill them extra hard because I’ve got word someone may be spoon feeding them. Might also just be someone being a dick too dunno.
Black Lily28-Jun-21 05:43 PM
This is all I need to know
🔇28-Jun-21 05:44 PM
Yikes
Black Lily28-Jun-21 05:45 PM
I joined that to rip from the game but everyone from /xivg/ is there
/u/GemManBad28-Jun-21 05:46 PM
Huh
Good to know
🔇28-Jun-21 06:09 PM
Black Lily28-Jun-21 06:18 PM
Why is eva so retarded
🔇28-Jun-21 06:18 PM
To stir trouble and be a shithead.
Black Lily28-Jun-21 06:43 PM
Not gonna fault him for getting the invite from a schizo this time
Mostly because he actually got a headset since he first joined the last discord
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<328-Jun-21 06:46 PM
what about the schizo
Dal29028-Jun-21 07:00 PM
I have gotten a few complaints about Eva already
Black Lily28-Jun-21 07:01 PM
I've been getting them from several people as well
June28-Jun-21 07:03 PM
grab the 12g and walk him out back...
Futanari28-Jun-21 07:04 PM
Legit have him blocked
Annoying
June28-Jun-21 07:04 PM
good call tbh
same for carl
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes28-Jun-21 07:05 PM
I've never gotten any complaints
June28-Jun-21 07:05 PM
people go to mods they know/loud ones
your not loudly moderating
Black Lily28-Jun-21 07:06 PM
I would rather have carl here than the thread
Futanari28-Jun-21 07:07 PM
Carl has nothing better to do
But cry
His life is legit the saddest most autistic thing ive heard in like fucking forever
Black Lily28-Jun-21 07:10 PM
What is his life other than typing on his computer
Futanari28-Jun-21 07:14 PM
Idk he has no personality
Black Lily28-Jun-21 07:20 PM
He's does
It's just schizo
Futanari28-Jun-21 07:25 PM
Ah
So its shit
Black Lily28-Jun-21 07:28 PM
In my opinion it's better than substituting a personality with being a massive degenerate
June28-Jun-21 07:30 PM
hey! I resemble that remark
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes28-Jun-21 08:31 PM
So I'm told by screwy's room mate that he has zero interest in actual vr and is here just to "stalk" his room mate and see what he's up to
he has a headset but has zero interest to actually use it and never plays vr
hes in the inner ring so I'll ask halo boys if they know him
or if he plays halo with them
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes28-Jun-21 08:42 PM
ye
June28-Jun-21 08:43 PM
wait which bomber
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes28-Jun-21 08:43 PM
vc
June28-Jun-21 08:43 PM
the old drunk one, or the new drunk
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes28-Jun-21 08:43 PM
the one in vc with me
I only know 1
June28-Jun-21 08:43 PM
roger
you might have missed the old one
only just if so
Azuth28-Jun-21 08:46 PM
you're better off not knowing old bomber
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes28-Jun-21 08:47 PM
how do I not know this other bomber
Black Lily28-Jun-21 08:49 PM
Got in through cat
Futanari28-Jun-21 08:49 PM
Fuck cat
Futanari28-Jun-21 09:10 PM
I hope to see them alive when im 30
:)
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<328-Jun-21 09:11 PM
flip a coin
Futanari28-Jun-21 09:12 PM
I have a dishwasher screw cap so ill flip that
Flipped it and it landed on dead
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes28-Jun-21 09:15 PM
talked to some halo boys
they don't know him
oh
I don't seem to be able to kick people
just a jannie not a mod
Black Lily28-Jun-21 09:17 PM
As it should be
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes28-Jun-21 09:17 PM
lily over here str8 up saying I'm not cool enough
Futanari28-Jun-21 09:19 PM
Shut up
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes28-Jun-21 09:19 PM
Futanari28-Jun-21 09:19 PM
Youre cool in my book
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes28-Jun-21 09:19 PM
dot will always be the first vrg cool kid to me
since he was the reason I joined vrg
giant gene or whatever that character was
Black Lily28-Jun-21 09:20 PM
@mod I'd rather not make the final decision without more input
Dal29028-Jun-21 09:20 PM
Who is the what now?
Futanari28-Jun-21 09:20 PM
Read above
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes28-Jun-21 09:20 PM
screwy is a who that stalks cupcake bomber
no one knows who he is
cupcake says he does have a headset, but NEVER uses it and has absolutely no interest in using it
he's here to "stalk" him and keep tabs on what he's doin
/u/GemManBad28-Jun-21 09:21 PM
bomber has his own thing, leave him out of us.
Dal29028-Jun-21 09:21 PM
@[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes IS IT COOL TO TALK ABOUT THIS HERE
Futanari28-Jun-21 09:21 PM
♂️
Azuth28-Jun-21 09:21 PM
seems he was let in without vetting
I thought we weren't auto-admitting people who said they were in the old one anymore
especially since there's no way to confirm
he even admitted here that he won't use VR until he moves
I'm ok with him getting the boot
Dal29028-Jun-21 09:23 PM
Just talked with them about it, I trust bomber on his word about this, fuck em
🔇28-Jun-21 09:28 PM
Ye, we can murder him.
Futanari28-Jun-21 10:01 PM
Hes back lmao
Brainy28-Jun-21 10:04 PM
Had a lot of work today. Did we get the bot setup for flagging yet?
Brainy28-Jun-21 10:15 PM
Don't forget to sweep for common protected class terms occasionally just so we don't miss stuff like this.
Alternatively you can search for "hang" "kill" etc. in combination with mention of protected class.
May be possible to set the bot up with a more sophisticated way to search based on regex.
If we're worried about it being too aggressive, we could have the bot "alert" us to those posts for manual review by jannies.(edited)
I was going to say that a DMCA is only valid when coming from the copyright holder. Since she counter-DMCA him, it would then be on him to take her to court to establish copyright ownership over the model. Because she did the counter-DMCA, he is also not the recognized owner of the model so long as she is disputing it, making his DMCA invalid.
Futanari29-Jun-21 12:43 AM
Si
Plus he simped for her and gave her new clothes that she didnt want and digi said gib me money for them please
Lmao
Brainy29-Jun-21 12:44 AM
Yeah I read about that! Just 3D modeled shit as a "gift" and then tried to collect on it. What a scumbag?
I've had big creators ask me about getting VTuber avatars done and every single one I steered away from Digi when they brought him up.
Futanari29-Jun-21 12:46 AM
Dont worry
Digi is trying his best being the best American model designer
:)
Brainy29-Jun-21 12:47 AM
Well, not so much come to me as organizations I've been employed by or been involved in really. But I always bring up the situation with Melody and warn against Digi.
Futanari29-Jun-21 12:51 AM
Yeye lul
That is also the fucker that told moderation team in vrchat to permanently ban me or he quits
:)
Perrine29-Jun-21 01:13 AM
Digi is pretty shit.
So Melody properly counterclaimed?
Brainy29-Jun-21 01:15 AM
Yeah she did because the guy was a fucking dumbass and issued the DMCA on Twitch.
So of course she would counter-claim that.
She also has a basis to sue him for beyond ordinary compensatory damages because by issuing the DMCA to Twitch he interfered with her business relationship with Twitch as a Partner.
Which, if he consulted an attorney at all, would probably be why he's dropped the whole matter entirely.
Perrine29-Jun-21 01:16 AM
Most people don't realize they can counter claim
Brainy29-Jun-21 01:16 AM
Yeah most do not or how the process itself works.
Perrine29-Jun-21 01:16 AM
When she put out that statement, I was screaming in my head "just counter claim, and you win"
Brainy29-Jun-21 01:17 AM
Yeah she did counter-claim. But she released the statement because he painted her into a corner where it could affect her professional relationship with Twitch and/or sponsorships.
Making that clear to him was also making it clear that if he does this shit again she could sue.
Technically she has a basis for a lawsuit right now.
Perrine29-Jun-21 01:19 AM
Yeah, internet "personalities" like Digi often think they're big fish, but don't understand how law works.
working on a banner does anyone have a transparent vrg logo
🔇29-Jun-21 06:43 AM
I’ll post it tomorrow if no one gets it to you sooner.
Distoibed29-Jun-21 06:51 AM
@#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<329-Jun-21 06:52 AM
ty
Distoibed29-Jun-21 07:04 AM
@#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3 uploaded
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<329-Jun-21 07:04 AM
ty
the world needs more terry davis(edited)
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes29-Jun-21 09:11 AM
Reminder that taka was the guy that lied and tried to get his friend banned from all communities he could because taka shared some assets that he wasn't supposed to
He got caught then tried to blame his innocent "friend"
Also he was trying to get vrg people banned from dance groups that didn't give him shit
He's one of two people banned from assetcord
Other is ninjura
Here's the tldr
basically taka threw creepy under the bus for trusting him when taka was about to get busted in the hopes he could get away with it
Longer: creepyfox had an asset made by tori, creepy shared it with taka but said not to share it, taka shared the asset, tori found out and went snooping and found that an alt was sharing the asset, taka then threw creepy under the bus and said that creepyfox was sharing the assets and taka was innocent, tori found that taka was lying because the alt they were using that was in this discord is also used in other asset sharing stuff and they knew it had ties to taka
Distoibed29-Jun-21 09:26 AM
he joins back after every kick
so I kinda want to ban him(edited)
Futanari29-Jun-21 09:27 AM
gib funny role
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes29-Jun-21 09:31 AM
But the complete betrayal and sheer lies is why I banned him from assetcord
Dal29029-Jun-21 09:41 AM
I bapped him from shop, glad you on board for the history books on this crap dank
Eric29-Jun-21 09:49 AM
bruh(edited)
i just woke up
Futanari29-Jun-21 09:50 AM
coom
Eric29-Jun-21 09:51 AM
keep in mind i dont hang with this dude anymore
its been literally months since i really hung out with him outside of saying hi and bye
also since im official janny now, i expected to be kicked off. ill rando check while in vr
i caught a few during an eu meet but i already forgot their names
Dal29029-Jun-21 09:53 AM
Good to have you
Eric29-Jun-21 09:53 AM
you unironically dont know how easy it is to check
Distoibed29-Jun-21 09:54 AM
>i expected to be kicked off
? @Eric
Eric29-Jun-21 09:54 AM
oh i asked for janny when this server was in cold storage/just starting
Eric
also since im official janny now, i expected to be kicked off. ill rando check while in vr
Dal29029-Jun-21 09:54 AM
Eh, at least personally, don't know how many share the sentiment
I don't agree with holding onto mod/jannie shit like a carefully guarded shit circlejerk
Hand it out to as many people as possible, cooperate and see what happens
Eric29-Jun-21 09:56 AM
ah
also taka's asking for a reason, do i blow him off or tell him(edited)
i guess he checked my roles right before his kick
Brainy29-Jun-21 09:56 AM
I'm of more or less the same opinion, but people need to be active (on the Discord at least) and responsible enough to handle powers.
If the facts were investigated and he was determined to be at fault not too long ago, I don't see why we wouldn't re-ban him, unless we no longer consider the offense banworthy.(edited)
Dal29029-Jun-21 09:59 AM
Basically taka was yuru era mishandling the "never ban never kick" mentality got him cleared when he definently did a dirty and has no business being here
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<329-Jun-21 09:59 AM
wondering if for an additional vetting step we should require a vouch from two people
Eric29-Jun-21 09:59 AM
naw thats too much
Eric
also taka's asking for a reason, do i blow him off or tell him (edited)
Eric29-Jun-21 10:00 AM
but still my question.
Dal29029-Jun-21 10:00 AM
We can handle things case by case
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<329-Jun-21 10:00 AM
if they lurk the thread and come to meetups its not hard to get people to vouch for you
Dal29029-Jun-21 10:01 AM
Some of the more autistic types cannot, nor will be able to pull that off, some of these fuckers have a hard time drinking enough to join a single meetup
Giving people more reasons to avoid the discord won't do good for the rebuilding meme process
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes
Reminder that taka was the guy that lied and tried to get his friend banned from all communities he could because taka shared some assets that he wasn't supposed to
Brainy29-Jun-21 10:04 AM
Did he try to get them banned from VRG?
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes
Longer: creepyfox had an asset made by tori, creepy shared it with taka but said not to share it, taka shared the asset, tori found out and went snooping and found that an alt was sharing the asset, taka then threw creepy under the bus and said that creepyfox was sharing the assets and taka was innocent, tori found that taka was lying because the alt they were using that was in this discord is also used in other asset sharing stuff and they knew it had ties to taka
Brainy29-Jun-21 10:05 AM
So all Taka did was lie to Person A (Tori) that Person B (Creepyfox) was distributing their work?
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes29-Jun-21 10:06 AM
Also was trying to get vrg people banned from dance groups
But the former is why I banned him from assetcord
I didn't know about the second until after
And it wasn't as simple as a white lie
Distoibed29-Jun-21 10:08 AM
I get the feeling that /vrg/ is just an other "vrchat discord" that he wants to join, acting like communities are like pokemons and that he wants to have his finger in every one
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes29-Jun-21 10:08 AM
When getting questioned about it, they very publicly tried to throw creepy under the bus and was trying as hard as they could to pin the blame ok creepy to get him banned
Wasn't a "oh no I didn't creepy did"
Distoibed
I get the feeling that /vrg/ is just an other "vrchat discord" that he wants to join, acting like communities are like pokemons and that he wants to have his finger in every one
Dal29029-Jun-21 10:09 AM
That was my issue with him, it was very obvious he was a rando dude who slipped in due to the low standards from before, the second one of those types also creates problems that runs us a risk for getting banned/reported/drama/bullshit
Get em out
Distoibed29-Jun-21 10:09 AM
kicked him 5 times
Futanari29-Jun-21 10:09 AM
coomer
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes29-Jun-21 10:09 AM
It was a "IT WAS HIM NOT ME! BAN HIM! HE'S THE ONE SHARING ASSETS"
Distoibed29-Jun-21 10:09 AM
think he's gotten the memo now
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<329-Jun-21 10:10 AM
probably not
Dal29029-Jun-21 10:10 AM
I told him to go to rydercord lol
Brainy29-Jun-21 10:10 AM
Yeah I'm not a fan of any member that would falsely implicate another member to jannies in an effort to avoid / deflect a ban. If it was just between him and this other person I wouldn't care. But it sounds like this involved interactions with jannies across this as well as the assetcord?
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes29-Jun-21 10:11 AM
Across MANY asset sharing discord, Twitter, and booth itself
Distoibed29-Jun-21 10:11 AM
the guy joined for assets and found out this place is pretty swell
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes29-Jun-21 10:12 AM
Taka had his booth account banned as well iirc
I'd have to ask Tori to be sure
Brainy29-Jun-21 10:18 AM
If he was directly providing falsehoods to jannies that could have resulted in another member being unjustly banned from this Discord, then I'm fine with banning him. The only exception in my view would be if this was a purely private matter between the individuals involved.(edited)
But this is assuming all the facts are true (I'm assuming they were confirmed back then).
At the end of the day though it's your Discord and your call. I'm just along for the ride. lol
Dal29029-Jun-21 10:22 AM
At this rate I feel the damage of letting in anybody/everybody with such low standards has lead to many problems, and current day events are negatively effected by the people who were here for the /vrg/ discord rather then /vrg/ is severe, we should boot anybody and everybody sus as fuck because too many were allowed in and know how to "blend in".
Brainy29-Jun-21 10:24 AM
Do they not attend the meetups?
I'm fundamentally against witchhunting users. But it sounds like there's enough evidence against this user to just boot them, if the facts are to be believed.(edited)
Dal29029-Jun-21 10:26 AM
Before it was just called common sense lol
In VRChat we could notice people who joined off of a friend of a friend and were obviously out of place or didn't know where they were, the discord reached 800 people and was filled with every jo shmo from every dance circle/ect.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<329-Jun-21 10:27 AM
Communities should be open to those who actually care about them, but if communities are open to everyone then the community starts to look completely different than what it originally was. strict gate keeping is the only way to to maintain a quality community. I'd much rather have a group with 200 people that actually care and fit in than 500 who may or may not
Brainy29-Jun-21 10:28 AM
Yeah I agree with you there. I feel like people should at least be recognizable and make an effort to participate here and/or at the meetups.
Futanari29-Jun-21 10:29 AM
kick anyone mentioning /trash/ or anyones fav game being vrc
Distoibed29-Jun-21 10:29 AM
it's a necessary evil
Brainy
Yeah I agree with you there. I feel like people should at least be recognizable and make an effort to participate here and/or at the meetups.
Dal29029-Jun-21 10:32 AM
I think it just boils down to age old common sense kek
Brainy29-Jun-21 10:32 AM
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<329-Jun-21 10:33 AM
its too bad common sense isn't all that common
Dal29029-Jun-21 10:33 AM
If somebody like taka gets wrongly bapped, somebody in here, or around /vrg/ will speak up for their friend
We can figure it out from there
Half of the mahjong guys were interpreted as randos by most people haha
Distoibed29-Jun-21 10:37 AM
could've fooled me :-)
Dal29029-Jun-21 10:43 AM
"who is this mahjong guy, looks like a rando"
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<329-Jun-21 10:44 AM
>mahjong
June29-Jun-21 10:53 AM
fuckin mahjoomers
always in their den
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🔇29-Jun-21 11:40 AM
Idk why you guys didn’t just ban him, but okay lol
🔇
Idk why you guys didn’t just ban him, but okay lol
Distoibed29-Jun-21 11:45 AM
was a little bit unsure if banning was the best option
🔇29-Jun-21 11:46 AM
If we’re never letting them in just give them a ban.
Stannic29-Jun-21 11:47 AM
BAN THE BACKSTABBER
🔇29-Jun-21 11:51 AM
Oh, I didn’t know you could ban people not here.
Distoibed29-Jun-21 11:51 AM
trying to formulate a ban reason
"Banned for throwing /vrg/ members under the bus and distributing/selling assercord assets"?
🔇29-Jun-21 11:52 AM
Already posted it.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<329-Jun-21 12:04 PM
someone want to upload this as the server invite background until someone else makes something
🔇29-Jun-21 12:04 PM
People will ask questions no matter what we post in actions anyways, so it’s fine to post general things.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3
someone want to upload this as the server invite background until someone else makes something
🔇29-Jun-21 12:05 PM
Done
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<329-Jun-21 12:05 PM
ty
Perrine29-Jun-21 12:43 PM
Gatekeeping is unironically important in maintaining a community. Just do it with proper reason and a moderate hand.
Either lurk and adapt, or gtfo.
BBC (Big Bunny Cock)29-Jun-21 01:25 PM
yeah otherwise your community gets fucked in the ass
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Azuth29-Jun-21 01:48 PM
what's the deal with tea leaves?
asking before I vet, he seems familiar with the community but I've never seen him before
🔇29-Jun-21 01:55 PM
He was just unresponsive I think?
Mumu from NYC29-Jun-21 02:17 PM
Azuth
what's the deal with tea leaves?
Distoibed29-Jun-21 02:22 PM
barely talked to him
but he kinda went off on me without anything happening between me and him (4 months ago)
with knowledge that he shouldn't have on me
not that he doxxed me, but he obviously got the info from somebody who has seen me enough to know the basic things
BBC (Big Bunny Cock)
yeah otherwise your community gets fucked in the ass
Stannic29-Jun-21 02:26 PM
time for a gated community meta while keeping refugees and brainwashed twtterinas out
Also might wanna put what taka actually did in actions so people know what to not do(edited)
Distoibed
"Banned for throwing /vrg/ members under the bus and distributing/selling assercord assets"?
Brainy29-Jun-21 06:58 PM
If we want "official" sounding ban reasons I wouldn't mind tossing a few suggestions out. I could come up with "official" formatting too, something like this:
Violation: Spreading Malicious Falsehoods About Other Users
Location: VRChat & Discord
Punishment: Discord Ban, Meetup Ban
Length: Indefinite
This way people can more or less deduce what occurred and where. I prefer to go with "indefinite" for length on bans because it gives the impression the ban is open to an appeal (which in most cases it tends to be).
If this sounds like something you'd want let me know, I'll keep it to the main 5 reasons / punishment types so it's simple.
June29-Jun-21 07:12 PM
personally feel thats too formal
Perrine29-Jun-21 07:13 PM
^
Too tryhardy.
June is banned from meetups for a week, he made VRChat look bad
1
1
Rainy is banned from discord until further notice, he posted cringe
1
Black Lily29-Jun-21 07:15 PM
We can't even ban people from meetups
Futanari29-Jun-21 07:27 PM
@Black Lily
Soon
Brainy29-Jun-21 08:05 PM
Yeah closest thing I've seen is blacklist to not invite.
I don't understand why they won't allow us to have persistent instances with VRChat.
Even as a thing we pay to have.(edited)
Futanari29-Jun-21 08:07 PM
They will implement group invites
As in we can form a group in the future
Dal29029-Jun-21 08:08 PM
My blacklist is usually "did you really let jelly in again you motherfucker DIE"
Futanari29-Jun-21 08:09 PM
I saw him at a public pug and my friends were talking about his donut fetish
:)
Dal29029-Jun-21 08:10 PM
Can't control shit like that, best that can be done is openly saying that shit is stupid verbally
Futanari
I saw him at a public pug and my friends were talking about his donut fetish
He came on a donut and posted it in /trash/ or someshit
Brainy29-Jun-21 08:42 PM
LMAO what
Futanari29-Jun-21 08:43 PM
Si
Black Lily29-Jun-21 08:47 PM
He's done worse
Futanari29-Jun-21 08:49 PM
Heard hes a pedo but i need more info on that
Futanari
He came on a donut and posted it in /trash/ or someshit
🔇29-Jun-21 09:02 PM
theres like 15 or so variations of that....
Futanari29-Jun-21 09:03 PM
Oof
Lmai
Black Lily29-Jun-21 09:20 PM
@Meeps wake up old man
Futanari29-Jun-21 09:20 PM
Use mixamo
Meeps29-Jun-21 09:28 PM
we dont really have much control over the video player component, even with udon. the 3d stuff is done with shaders. there's a good prefab for an udon video player if you want to mess around with 3d shaders
I don't know how to construct worlds, so I've been testing theaters to see how well they work
Meeps29-Jun-21 09:32 PM
o i see
most of the sdk3 worlds with up to date stuff should work mostly fine
Perrine29-Jun-21 09:33 PM
I tested several a few months back, and only had some sort of success with Rooftop and Bedroom.
Rooftop is retarded about aspect ratios though, and tries to stretch each eye's image out to the 32:9 raw aspect ratio of the video file
Bedroom is smart and keeps it at 16:9, but....everything breaks with the "W10" player.
W7 has sync/start issues.
Meeps29-Jun-21 09:33 PM
yeah, those are both sdk2 worlds
Perrine29-Jun-21 09:34 PM
Are there some good SDK3 worlds you recommend then, meeps?
Meeps29-Jun-21 09:34 PM
most of those issues are solved with sdk3/udon players
with 3d shaders? not that I know of
Perrine29-Jun-21 09:35 PM
One day I'll have 3D Dredd night in VRChat
Meeps29-Jun-21 09:36 PM
i might throw in some 3d stuff for me and zipzoop's new cinema world but who knows how far away that is
(im the lazy one, zipzoop is done already)
Perrine29-Jun-21 09:38 PM
pls do, I don't want to have to learn how to build worlds just for movie time
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Brainy29-Jun-21 11:09 PM
Pinned a message.
🔇29-Jun-21 11:24 PM
Room of the rain has a 3D mode and is udon iirc.
Futanari29-Jun-21 11:40 PM
Room of the beaner
Futanari30-Jun-21 12:38 AM
I left ryders server
No nitro boost as well over there lmao
Black Lily30-Jun-21 12:54 AM
I don't know if Ryder actually planned for it to become the new "official" discord
Futanari30-Jun-21 01:09 AM
It wont be
Black Lily30-Jun-21 01:09 AM
Obviously, it's completely dead
Futanari30-Jun-21 01:11 AM
Just leave lmao
Black Lily30-Jun-21 01:11 AM
Nah
Futanari30-Jun-21 01:13 AM
Sad
Mumu from NYC30-Jun-21 01:20 AM
Brainy30-Jun-21 02:00 AM
I just left too
Perrine30-Jun-21 02:11 AM
It'll be yet another backup or something, who knows.
🔇
Room of the rain has a 3D mode and is udon iirc.
Perrine30-Jun-21 02:12 AM
Does it still have a 3D Version? Inverness remembers there being one, then it being removed at some point.
Futanari30-Jun-21 02:51 AM
I love jelly
Idk what that is but i will agree
Distoibed30-Jun-21 02:57 AM
When i talked to him I asked if I should watch it
Hé said I shouldnt and that it's awful
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Perrine01-Jul-21 02:15 PM
If we don't care about false positives then fine i suppose.
Krial01-Jul-21 02:15 PM
It being delayed makes it safe. I don’t think it matters.
Perrine
The entire point is to not kill those few false positives, yes?
Brainy01-Jul-21 02:15 PM
Yes, but also there is a lot of really bad (including violent) speech we might miss entirely because it doesn't contain slurs.(edited)
June01-Jul-21 02:15 PM
on the last sever we ran it the last month ish and never got a single person bitching about a post missing
Perrine01-Jul-21 02:15 PM
But at least maybe flag manual review on long posts that don't hit the very obvious stuff
Krial01-Jul-21 02:15 PM
Anything affecting mudae should be ignored.
Because mudae literally matters for 30 seconds only.
Perrine01-Jul-21 02:15 PM
If someone does an infodump that gets flagged, we'll probably hear about it
Brainy
Yes, but also there is a lot of really bad (including violent) speech we might miss entirely because it doesn't contain slurs. (edited)
June01-Jul-21 02:16 PM
thats literally what your job is for
Krial01-Jul-21 02:16 PM
I’m sure. But what will we hear.
“How dare you delete where I said the n word 6 months ago!!”
“How could you try to keep the server from being deleted”
Perrine01-Jul-21 02:16 PM
.... Not the case I'm talking about
June01-Jul-21 02:16 PM
unless your asking for the mark for delete option, which is on the way
Perrine01-Jul-21 02:17 PM
Someone refers back to it, but it's gone
June01-Jul-21 02:17 PM
sure, but that hasn't happened
Perrine01-Jul-21 02:17 PM
Yes, but I'm trying to be proactive about this type of thing
June01-Jul-21 02:17 PM
I also do have a backup of every post it deletes
Perrine01-Jul-21 02:17 PM
The only old posts people will go back to are things like this
June01-Jul-21 02:17 PM
can be manually retrieved
Perrine01-Jul-21 02:18 PM
So why not just reduce the scope of manual review to rare posts we know have a higher likelihood of being noticed?
Distoibed01-Jul-21 02:18 PM
I do think that the Hatespeech part is the user problem
since we're not gonna kick/ban people for it, it's up to them to choose if they do it or not
if they do, we're just gonna remake the server after another year
Brainy01-Jul-21 02:18 PM
Hate speech, specifically violent hate speech, comes down to what will always get this server deleted.
June01-Jul-21 02:18 PM
regex isn't magic, and it will give you plenty of false positives
Perrine01-Jul-21 02:19 PM
Unfortunately unless we turn into groveling discord redditors, we're always going to potentially fall afoul of "hate speech," loosely defined as "anything someone might decide they want to find problematic"
June01-Jul-21 02:19 PM
tuning that kind of speech detection pattern is much harder than you might think. we can do it dumb and dirty, but I'm not doing anything more advanced
Brainy01-Jul-21 02:19 PM
I know how regex works, I know it's not magic, but it's possible to reduce a lot of the volume by having it only turn up posts the bot would not ordinarily target for deletion, which will reduce a lot of the volume.
Distoibed01-Jul-21 02:20 PM
I think june has already done more than enough with the job
June
tuning that kind of speech detection pattern is much harder than you might think. we can do it dumb and dirty, but I'm not doing anything more advanced
Perrine01-Jul-21 02:20 PM
If word matches false positive list
And if character count greater than 1000
Flag for review
Distoibed
I think june has already done more than enough with the job
Brainy01-Jul-21 02:20 PM
I'm not even asking him to do the job. It's something we can setup this bot to do: https://valkyrja.app/
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Perrine01-Jul-21 02:20 PM
How many of those are going to exist?
June01-Jul-21 02:20 PM
Alright, fine, I'll put that in
but you have to tune it
give me 5
Perrine01-Jul-21 02:20 PM
Of course
And you could also just
If channel = general or happening, do not manual review
June01-Jul-21 02:21 PM
@🔇 make a channel clone of mods for the output
June
thats literally what your job is for
Brainy01-Jul-21 02:21 PM
Yes, which is why I'm saying we should have a bot that dumps certain criteria keywords into a channel for us to review daily, as opposed to every individual having to individually search keywords from a list daily.
June01-Jul-21 02:22 PM
very well, I'll convert that into something actionable one second
waiting on updates anyways
Distoibed01-Jul-21 02:23 PM
@June I bet you can make some big bucks with selling the rights to use your bot
June01-Jul-21 02:23 PM
nah, its just for vrg
Distoibed01-Jul-21 02:24 PM
I know, but I just realized that your bot can basically turn the most toxic server into a discord TOS friendly one
without the users having to change the slightest bit
Brainy01-Jul-21 02:25 PM
There are bots that already do most of what he's designing it to do now. But the regex filters, word lists, and flagging we come up with could make it stand out from those given how specialized we could make it around demonstrable hateful intent / violent hate speech, which most communities aren't nuanced enough to moderate strictly or develop around.
June01-Jul-21 02:25 PM
I'm also slowly working on a full discord backup
Brainy01-Jul-21 02:25 PM
That could be highly valued to some communities (especially other 4Chan communities on Discord).
June01-Jul-21 02:25 PM
so you can browse a dead server, or a snapshot
Brainy01-Jul-21 02:25 PM
Interesting
Already doing more than Discord as a company in that case
June01-Jul-21 02:26 PM
discords lazy af
Brainy01-Jul-21 02:26 PM
My only concern would be if the snapshot contains images people have uploaded that have been deleted as there's always the possibility some asshole could post CSAM that's buried/forgotten in the snapshot.
Distoibed01-Jul-21 02:26 PM
they are at the top, so they can take it easy now
Brainy01-Jul-21 02:27 PM
That or removed from the server, but not the snapshot.
Brainy
My only concern would be if the snapshot contains images people have uploaded that have been deleted as there's always the possibility some asshole could post CSAM that's buried/forgotten in the snapshot.
June01-Jul-21 02:27 PM
Yeah, the images are the sensitive part
I do plan on dumping them into the db, but I worry about them not needing to be saved when deleted manually
pretty sure I can detect the posts being deleted and update the db to match (without polling) but I dont know if we want all deleted posts or yes respect the deletion and make em go
Brainy01-Jul-21 02:31 PM
Could make it so anything deleted connected to a URL, image, or media embed (like video) is not recorded.
This is the sort of speech I'm aiming to address with the flagging system. The bot detecting this automatically and putting it in a manual review channel would help tremendously. All the bot would need is a list of protected classes. If the volume proves too great to review, we could always require a word from a common list of verbs expressing violence.
The difficulty here would be that same statements are expressed in multiple lines. So in this example, the violent verb is on a separate line, and might not be detected unless the bot knows to search the last X number of lines from the user.(edited)
June01-Jul-21 02:39 PM
good example, gather a few more words you want added
visual studio is updating so I cant do anything for a bit
Brainy01-Jul-21 02:41 PM
I'm a bit busy today, but I'll try to come up with a list of words most commonly used with violent expression ("kill", "hang", "purge", "lynch", etc.). The same goes for protected classes.(edited)
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Also thanks for all your work on this June.
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Stannic01-Jul-21 03:07 PM
why not have the bot edit the words
just like how 4chan makes fam go to desu
June01-Jul-21 03:10 PM
cant edit messages
June
@🔇 make a channel clone of mods for the output
🔇01-Jul-21 03:53 PM
#bot-review ?
June01-Jul-21 03:54 PM
yep perfect
no one can see it but the usual?
change it to bot-review
🔇01-Jul-21 03:55 PM
Yeah only mods and jannies should have access.
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#bot-review
Kinda dumb imo, since 99% of talk here is useless.
June01-Jul-21 04:16 PM
its going to spam a lot though
with false flags
🔇01-Jul-21 04:20 PM
Make the flagging priority over anything else.
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Brainy01-Jul-21 09:49 PM
Complicated way of doing it (if want to schedule deletion, rather than just delete the moment we see a post):
What jannie role flags/reacts with results in the following:
Bot removes the reaction.
Bot confirms (maybe cross-posts) the message in a channel like #mod-queue
What bot flags gets cross-posted to #mod-review withreaction.
Any jannie who clicks the reaction results in post being marked/scheduled for deletion.
Bot could confirm / cross-post in #mod-queue, but not required.(edited)
🔇01-Jul-21 09:53 PM
too complicated, the less double checking the better, just trust the mod/jannie team and its fine
if someone deletes something that wouldnt have been bad, oh well
i think the problem with your train of thought is "what if someone posts something valuable?" but nothing posted in here is valuable
Brainy01-Jul-21 09:54 PM
I just cleaned it up a bit so it's less chaotic.
Well I'm designing it based on the presumption you guys do not want to proactively delete posts immediately.(edited)
If this is not the case, then it's possible to just trust jannies to delete on sight.
🔇01-Jul-21 09:56 PM
thats what the reaction is for
think that "this should be deleted" react to it with and itll add to the queue
delete on sight stuff should be gore/nsfw in general
Brainy01-Jul-21 09:57 PM
Yeah, I'm describing how that functionality should ideally work.
Ideally, if the goal is to not incite a user reaction, then the reaction should be detected / removed the moment it is seen by the bot.
Otherwise, it will get very obvious, very quickly, that @Brainy or @🔇 are leaving reactions in real-time to posts with .(edited)
Users will discern what this means and it will incite a reaction.
🔇01-Jul-21 09:57 PM
thats how its planned, bot monitors for reactions and removes them and queues them if its (edited)
Brainy01-Jul-21 09:58 PM
This is why my suggestion is that the bot detects and removes the , then queues the post for future deletion.
Oh so you mean, don't worry about having the bot confirm it in another channel?
🔇01-Jul-21 09:58 PM
thats whats going to happen, i just dont want to have a secondary location to confirm those
Brainy01-Jul-21 09:58 PM
Just trust others to flag and bot to delete?
🔇01-Jul-21 09:58 PM
yep
Brainy01-Jul-21 09:59 PM
Yeah, I'm not describing a secondary location for jannies to confirm those, as that's redundant. I'm only suggesting a channel where the bot can confirm what is queued or added to queue for deletion. But if you trust the bot will always work no matter what, then this is likely not necessary.
🔇01-Jul-21 10:00 PM
i dont think its necessary, or useful to confirm what the bot queues and deletes
Brainy01-Jul-21 10:00 PM
Got it, then that can be left out completely.
🔇01-Jul-21 10:01 PM
if we over delete, fuck it thats fine.
i really dont care to have a log of the discord spanning forever
Brainy01-Jul-21 10:01 PM
However, I would still suggest adding a channel for the bot itself to cross-post what it automatically detects and flags for us to manually review as described above, where all we have to do is click a reaction to confirm that it is something to be deleted.
Unless this too is something you would rather trust the bot to automate on a schedule.
Rather than having us do that manual review / curation.(edited)
🔇01-Jul-21 10:02 PM
i dont think you understand how often people say the gamer word
Yeah that wouldn't be a thing we need to review though.
We don't need to review that because the bot is automatically detecting and deleting.
JannieBotBOT01-Jul-21 10:02 PM
55 Pending messages to delete in queue.
0 Sweeps in progress:
Brainy01-Jul-21 10:02 PM
What we need to potentially be alerted to is this:
Mention of protected class in addition to high confidence word associated with violence.
At this point, we're automatically detecting and removing 90% of potential abuse vectors that cross into "violent hate speech" categorization.
🔇01-Jul-21 10:04 PM
i would rather just add lynch to the filter
Brainy01-Jul-21 10:04 PM
But we can't add "kill" or "purge" or a lot of other common words.
🔇01-Jul-21 10:04 PM
thats fine, do manual moderation and use the emote
Brainy01-Jul-21 10:05 PM
But if you want to get around curation, another way to do it would just be to trust the bot to automatically detect and purge, accepting a margin for error on harmless speech being targeted.
🔇01-Jul-21 10:05 PM
adding complicated filters is more than we need
we went about 18 months without any
Brainy01-Jul-21 10:05 PM
Regex filters detecting protected class in addition to word associated with violence should be enough in this scenario to demonstrate compliance.
🔇01-Jul-21 10:06 PM
its much easier to just tell mods/jannies to clean it up
Brainy01-Jul-21 10:06 PM
So in that case the other possibility would be to only treat it as a problem once it becomes a problem (IE, when the server gets formally warned), so long as we will be notified by the owner account in a timely manner and can then run a pass to purge.
But this may take considerable time with API limitations the larger the server gets and the more time that passes.
Because it is then having to historically review.
However, in my experience, they will not count anything older than a year as a strike.
So if, once it becomes a problem, we can handle the bot reviewing one full year of posts and expunging in a timely manner, then this should still be enough to keep us compliant.
🔇01-Jul-21 10:08 PM
as far as that goes, it took about 3 weeks to scan all of the servers history for every word we had filtered
Brainy01-Jul-21 10:08 PM
Regarding timely manner, going by Discord's own internal policy, this is a 48 hour window.
🔇01-Jul-21 10:09 PM
i dont think so, as we got the warning and then werent deleted for about 2 months
Brainy01-Jul-21 10:09 PM
So the server owner would need to inform us within 24 hours to potentially find and remove whatever Discord is warning us over (and they will not tell us what -- they do not even tell Partners).
🔇01-Jul-21 10:09 PM
we didnt even take any actions the first month
Brainy01-Jul-21 10:09 PM
What was the first warning?
Do you know if that was the same macro?
If it was then you're probably correct and it's one month.
🔇01-Jul-21 10:10 PM
similar, but they said something about using active moderation
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Brainy01-Jul-21 10:10 PM
The 48 hours was what their policy was one year ago and it was extremely controversial because it's in no way reasonable or practical. So it would make sense if they changed it.
One month definitely falls more in line with what's reasonable.
🔇01-Jul-21 10:10 PM
we didnt know about the warning for about 3 weeks, and only made the bot after about 2ish weeks
also, we arent a partnered or public/community discord. so rules are slightly different(edited)
they dont check up as often
Brainy01-Jul-21 10:12 PM
Yeah I was about to mention that, I'm actually looking over their guidelines for servers with discovery (community) right now.
But I think the actual warnings and macros you got are the more accurate way to gauge this.
🔇01-Jul-21 10:12 PM
so the ban and the warning was most likely because we got reported
Brainy01-Jul-21 10:12 PM
So in this case we can probably safely risk it within that timeframe.
So it was after 3 weeks you noticed the warning and even then it took 2 months for deletion?(edited)
🔇01-Jul-21 10:14 PM
if we get another warning ill just go into full lockdown and delete everything after a week
Brainy01-Jul-21 10:14 PM
Any way we can confirm that? Because we can then go with "it's not a problem until it become a problem" and task the bot with scanning/purging aggressively going back one year in every channel, assuming it can handle that task within the timeframe.
🔇01-Jul-21 10:14 PM
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
itll be fine imo
Brainy01-Jul-21 10:15 PM
Yeah I think so too now that I know your window for deletion was roughly 2 months.
I was thinking we had 48 hours to work on this.
🔇01-Jul-21 10:15 PM
nah, they gave us quite a bit of time
Brainy01-Jul-21 10:15 PM
Also I think it will go a long way that we're proactively moderating at this point against a significant volume of content that is likely to get reported.
🔇01-Jul-21 10:15 PM
even then, we dont know if cleaning up would have even prevented deletion
because once theres a certain amount of reports, im sure they will just yeet the server anyways
Brainy01-Jul-21 10:17 PM
As in they will see that X post was reported and within 48 hour turnover (theirs on triage queue, not ours), they don't see the post. They can see the # of those cases that were resolved and then we've already gone a long way to demonstrated we are reactively and proactively moderating in good faith.
🔇
because once theres a certain amount of reports, im sure they will just yeet the server anyways
Brainy01-Jul-21 10:17 PM
No, they won't because it's more beneficial to them statistically to demonstrate communities moderating themselves.
Also the sheer volume of low value reports they receive is so common. I guarantee you there are Partner servers that receive far more reports in a day than we do and if the post is gone they just don't care. Also they're not storing these posts right now because they're still reliant on venture funding and won't even do it in the interest of combating things that are actually harmful beyond someone saying a bad word.
I think e should be fine just with how you've already outlined it.
Right now it's doing a good job on the slurs at least and there will always be violent speech caught in that net too.
June02-Jul-21 12:19 AM
carl...
yeah I'll get the general flagging one going
on the sus words
lynching, kill etc
Black Lily02-Jul-21 12:19 AM
Carl just types more than anyone else
June02-Jul-21 12:19 AM
true
oh
I should make a post count stats
per day, total
Black Lily02-Jul-21 12:20 AM
Ne doesn't know how to shut up
June02-Jul-21 12:20 AM
ya
Brainy02-Jul-21 12:21 AM
I've deleted sooo many from Carl lmao
I'm pretty confident we'll be getting 90% of this though once the system is functioning.
🔇02-Jul-21 12:30 AM
oh right @June i wanted to have blanket removal of all single character posts
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Brainy02-Jul-21 12:38 AM
So you can target these?
User:
I actually don't see them too much on here, but being able to purge emote-only would be nice.
🔇02-Jul-21 12:40 AM
we could but people are unlikely tbh
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🔇
also im sick of people fucking with the op ):
Dal29002-Jul-21 02:15 AM
I tried talking to Ryder about "you are really fucking things up creating a rift in /vrg/, you not removing the invite then taking full advantage of some "shitposter" adding yours to the OP" ect ect ect.
🔇02-Jul-21 02:16 AM
Dal29002-Jul-21 02:16 AM
I got scrappy do tier responses he is as stubborn as ever
🔇02-Jul-21 02:17 AM
yeah, he wants power...remember when we had to ban him from making portals? its the same thing all over again
Dal29002-Jul-21 02:17 AM
I have lost all respect in him after this, I wouldn't mind if it was an actual "lets give them a choice" like some of the guys backing that crap besides him claim it be
🔇02-Jul-21 02:18 AM
Dal29002-Jul-21 02:18 AM
It just looks like a bunch of dirty bullshit like fucking with the OP and shitposting it relentlessly
🔇02-Jul-21 02:18 AM
yep
Dal29002-Jul-21 02:18 AM
So far the "posters" hate my cord, hate this one, but praise that one
🔇02-Jul-21 02:18 AM
they swapped the rentry and put it in the op
Dal29002-Jul-21 02:18 AM
I don't believe in coincidences and that shit is sus as fuck
🔇02-Jul-21 02:19 AM
like, if you add anything to the op, add the calendar thing at least?
its too bad the op is always posted during prime wagey hours
Dal29002-Jul-21 02:20 AM
I just don't appreciate patterns and obvious favor-ability within posters that haven't made op
Whoever the person who made the same "real VR" one made another one with a cropped screencap and lacks experience in making them(edited)
🔇02-Jul-21 02:21 AM
Dal29002-Jul-21 02:21 AM
I would like to believe it is %100 shitposting but he is really apprehensive about discouraging damage to the thread from this
Taking all of the benifits, mysterious shitposters who show favor and hate/like things in particular, its transparent and I don't like it, it feels like classic astrurfing bs
🔇02-Jul-21 02:26 AM
its all gay
the others posting in there is tiger, bern, and a few other retards that dont matter
Dal29002-Jul-21 02:29 AM
Yeah I had a run in where tiger joined the fallout 76 game cake and the others were playing, and he got mad I didn't let him into workshop to play with them, when four people unadded him on the spot, and he joined their public game off of wired who was afk.(edited)
ToddBotBOT02-Jul-21 02:29 AM
🔇02-Jul-21 02:30 AM
yeah, he complained about that lol
Dal29002-Jul-21 02:30 AM
It's classic bullshit though, I don't even play 76
All of those people unadded him, and dropped him like a rock, and didn't make a single effort to "oh shit I'm sorry"
Somehow it's my fault
I intended for shop to be a transitional/bunker deal until things reformed and expected people to disperse, but people are so sick of this shit they are staying for perma, some have lost interest in the "main cord" because of this.
🔇02-Jul-21 02:34 AM
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Dal29002-Jul-21 02:35 AM
Yeah all those people dropped this dude the second they didn't have to deal with him
That's my fault now
🔇02-Jul-21 02:35 AM
its fine to not join the main cord, and its fine to have a splinter, but stop fucking with the op
Pineapples02-Jul-21 02:35 AM
Yep, always gotta pin it on one person and claim it's just because they don't like someone.
🔇02-Jul-21 02:35 AM
its okay pineapples, we all know you hate moub
Dal29002-Jul-21 02:35 AM
If they were really his friends they would have asked me to let him in
Instead they unadded him and say lol glad I don't have to deal with that guy anymore
June02-Jul-21 02:47 AM
ran into tiger earlier in the halo discord
hes still blind to it all
he thinks everyone hates him and keeps banning him from new servers
without thinking why...
Pineapples02-Jul-21 02:47 AM
Well, he's not too wrong about the first part at least..
June02-Jul-21 02:48 AM
yep
but someone even said, have you thought about why?
he didnt say anything and ignored it
Black Lily02-Jul-21 03:21 AM
Plus Scoop
Dal29002-Jul-21 03:21 AM
Eh, like I said the pattern's don't line up
I don't doubt one of them is trying to emulate being a new/obvious poster
Mumu from NYC02-Jul-21 03:22 AM
i for one never had a problem with dal making the workshop cord
Dal29002-Jul-21 03:23 AM
I don't doubt it could be them, I don't know if scoop is interested in muddling with that he is really busy trying to get his events together
Mumu from NYC02-Jul-21 03:23 AM
keeps things focused on one thing and one thing only (mostly)
Black Lily02-Jul-21 03:23 AM
And Yawsu probably
Dal29002-Jul-21 03:27 AM
I just don't get the focus of trying to coolsville sucks/smear campaign me
When has that ever worked for anybody who tried to do it
Mumu from NYC02-Jul-21 03:28 AM
having both discords and one refusing to give up but still going to events created here is essentially this image
Dal29002-Jul-21 03:29 AM
Yeah nobody wants to post events in two discords, plain and simple
I'm only going to check the workshop channel in one too
I just dun get it
People have gotten genuinely upset before that they didn't see their image in the collage
And I point it out to them like "yee it's right here"
🔇02-Jul-21 03:31 AM
That’s pretty autistic and stupid. Lol
Dal29002-Jul-21 03:32 AM
RIGHT
I think it's alright, people want to feel like somebody is going to see their work, I guess it's a motivational thing
Perrine02-Jul-21 03:42 AM
People like attention
Attentionwhoring is built into the human psyche
and it really fucks you up if you let it
That's why /vrg/ is high school drama and social retards everywhere, that's why we're even having this long conversation about different discords, reeing about what is and isn't in the OP, and people being casually disrespectful in ironic unironic ways for no reason
Azuth02-Jul-21 03:57 AM
any organization that gets as big as us runs into this
doesn't matter if it's a discord, a company, or a church
once you exceed the monkeysphere people fight for monkeyspheres of their own
Pineapples02-Jul-21 04:00 AM
I think it could do some good to have things split up a bit instead of people wanting drastically different things from one server. Though that only works if people have clear options, not just one side trying to force their server into being seen as the only server.
Dal29002-Jul-21 04:01 AM
Eh, I just don't trust ryder for shit, nor any of the people pushing for an alternative
He doesn't know enough of /vrg/, and is uninformed, that' isn't a viable alternative, if anything it is going to solidfy why it's a bad idea
Kind of like /vrvgg/ or /vrgg/, you know the shitsmear who keeps pushing it, nobody wants to jump ship into that crap
Pineapples02-Jul-21 04:02 AM
Yeah, the way he handled instance ownership makes things pretty clear.
Perrine02-Jul-21 04:03 AM
The general rule of thumb is that if someone's real passionate about something that doesn't matter, it's probably not good. Remember how much Orb thirsted for that vote in the last server?
Dal29002-Jul-21 04:03 AM
That guy pushing for a thread split has demonstrated why its a bad idea, and made it laughable every time, even if people wanted it
"So we should post our stuff in both threads?" "Why are you shitposting this much" ect ect ect
Dal290
Eh, I just don't trust ryder for shit, nor any of the people pushing for an alternative
Mumu from NYC02-Jul-21 04:07 AM
The man has a melty everytime his elationship doesn't go his way
Perrine
The general rule of thumb is that if someone's real passionate about something that doesn't matter, it's probably not good. Remember how much Orb thirsted for that vote in the last server?
Distoibed02-Jul-21 04:08 AM
Oh, you should have seen howmuch he wanted mod after the election
Perrine02-Jul-21 04:09 AM
Without even going into "the best ruler is the person who doesn't want the crown" bullshit, someone who wants something as trivial as mod status so f ucking badly is definitely someone you should never let be mod
Distoibed02-Jul-21 04:11 AM
we (dal and meeps) had a 2 day fight with orb in a special text channel that went absolutely nowhere after 1 hour
Perrine02-Jul-21 04:11 AM
Mod status gets you:
The power to shit on other users
A secret club to talk trash on people and self-aggrandize
And if you reject those
A fucking headache
Distoibed02-Jul-21 04:11 AM
was better that way
🔇02-Jul-21 04:11 AM
I just send orb DMs.
Lol
Perrine02-Jul-21 04:11 AM
Guess which of those things people want to be mod for
Mumu from NYC02-Jul-21 04:12 AM
If you crave moderator status or anything with authority/power you've basically shown everyone at the table your cards at the start of the game
Perrine02-Jul-21 04:12 AM
^
It's like cops
Mumu from NYC02-Jul-21 04:12 AM
Which usually results in them having ill intent and so on
🔇02-Jul-21 04:12 AM
I’m just here to kill retards. (;
Mumu from NYC02-Jul-21 04:12 AM
I'm here to do it for free
Dal29002-Jul-21 04:13 AM
I accepted mod because I was dmed after leaving with piles of shit I didn't appreciate happening, the offer was "if you think it sucks fix it"
Azuth02-Jul-21 04:14 AM
I did it for the hot pockets
Dal29002-Jul-21 04:14 AM
I fix shit and people got upset, surprised how many were cool with the sudden crazy changes
Mumu from NYC02-Jul-21 04:14 AM
I only accept bagelbites
Perrine02-Jul-21 04:16 AM
The trick is remembering everyone is garbage, these are just the idiots who got tricked into doing it for free
Perrine
The trick is remembering everyone is garbage, these are just the idiots who got tricked into doing it for free
🔇02-Jul-21 04:23 AM
No, I did pay Azuth real hot pockets.
Perrine02-Jul-21 04:23 AM
wtf i want hot pocket
Mumu from NYC02-Jul-21 04:23 AM
It's true
🔇02-Jul-21 04:23 AM
He’s done a good job. (:
Azuth02-Jul-21 04:36 AM
I hope to be as good a mod as my inspiration
Gilvek in the lavender discord
Distoibed02-Jul-21 04:37 AM
who
Azuth02-Jul-21 04:39 AM
former vrg guy who became mod of June's server
only to make zero posts and do absolutely nothing for almost 2 years
oh he's still a mod there
lmao
Black Lily02-Jul-21 04:43 AM
I miss Gilvek
Dal29002-Jul-21 04:48 AM
He was offput by things around here, heat and the kitchen and all that
I was hoping somebody would make an anti-lewd discord at some point for people who don't like degen shit
BUT NOBODY H AS TAKEN UP THE TASK
Distoibed02-Jul-21 04:51 AM
because purity is a joke
Azuth02-Jul-21 05:07 AM
anon27's server is kinda that, but he'd sooner die than want to be seen as part of vrg
Futanari02-Jul-21 05:11 AM
mommy ryder muted me :(
so sad
Brainy02-Jul-21 05:19 AM
Just focus on making this server better and his won't matter. Especially if it gets reported/deleted due to lack of moderation.
I doubt they're moderating even half the things we're already creating an automated process to address.
Brainy02-Jul-21 05:26 AM
Yeah I wasn't implying we should report it. That's brigading. All I'm saying is that ours is better managed and that's what matters.
Also I'm very confident we'll be demonstrating a goodfaith effort to remove bad content and addressing 90% of the worst of it.
I have a very positive outlook on that and think just these measures alone will do a great deal to keep the server in good standing under their guidelines.
If it doesn't and we do get an official warning, we can always do a sophisticated purge based on any mention of protected classes.
I'm not referring to the Discord function of purging users. I mean purging old posts that contain mentions of protected classes in the event we do receive an official warning.
There's two ways to go about it. I suggested a more complex way that would reduce false positives and preserve as much harmless speech as possible. But we can do a quick and easy pass for any posts containing mention of a protected class and delete en masse (as Asylum suggested / prefers) and it wouldn't make a difference to this community.(edited)
The good news is that we're only dealing with a few edgelords. We're not seeing people regularly roll in to post disturbing violence, gore, or porn shit like bestiality or CSAM.
We're also not running a server that invites piracy, fraud, and scams that are more complex to address.(edited)
We're far from being the worst case scenario server and it's actually very little we need to do to stay compliant even if we receive a warning for "violent hate speech".
The fact this server is gated also reduces a lot of abuse vectors other servers see daily in more harmful ways from tourists.(edited)
Brainy
The good news is that we're only dealing with a few edgelords. We're not seeing people regularly roll in to post disturbing violence, gore, or porn shit like bestiality or CSAM.
We're also not running a server that invites piracy, fraud, and scams that are more complex to address. (edited)
Distoibed02-Jul-21 05:53 AM
>server that invites piracy
we used to kinda...
Brainy02-Jul-21 05:54 AM
Yeah I remember. But I mean with something more likely to get stakeholder attention.
Distoibed02-Jul-21 05:54 AM
luckily we split off and it's now in dankmemes' hands(edited)
Brainy02-Jul-21 05:54 AM
IE when they had piracy servers they were going after over games they were trying to sell on the Discord marketplace.
Futanari02-Jul-21 05:55 AM
i remember when we had assets here and people keep joining in cuz of it
and then it got nuked
Brainy02-Jul-21 05:55 AM
Basically what I'm saying is our situation is more salvageable than you may think and less severe than what other servers are dealing with daily while being under far more scrutiny (like community servers or Partner servers).
The fact gating exists reduces a major abuse vector for people who might raid to spam illegal content.
Futanari
i remember when we had assets here and people keep joining in cuz of it
Distoibed02-Jul-21 05:57 AM
Did you get DMs of people wanting the assets?
Futanari02-Jul-21 05:57 AM
long ago yeah
i told them to fuck off
Brainy02-Jul-21 05:59 AM
So don't think server deletion is "inevitable" because everyone here is contributing their time, experience, and knowledge in a way that makes this solvable. I have confidence in you guys and I know we can be compliant with Discord in ways that sacrifice as little from this community as possible.(edited)
Distoibed02-Jul-21 06:06 AM
good ol' snoop
Brainy02-Jul-21 06:08 AM
Let's use that picture as an example. Let's say someone cherry picked that post and similar statements to report, and upon review, Discord issued us a warning to clean it up with the same macro as before (disparaging speech and/or call to violence, something like that). All we'd need to do is throw every protected class into a list with the most common slurs surrounding them and have the bot delete them. Historically we were given a window of roughly two months to comply, which is plenty of time: https://discord.com/channels/844705209615908914/844705211012218880/860341262171111444(edited)
Black Lily02-Jul-21 06:26 AM
@/u/GemManBad
/u/GemManBad02-Jul-21 06:27 AM
Well that simplifies things
Black Lily02-Jul-21 06:27 AM
The thread op shit is pretty scummy tbh
I could delete the invite for Ryder's discord
Distoibed02-Jul-21 06:32 AM
IMO
Ryder can have the "main discord" title
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<302-Jul-21 06:35 AM
I left ryders server it was completely dead, honestly surprised they are still trying to shill it.
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then again it is ryder
Black Lily02-Jul-21 06:38 AM
I don't know if Ryder is even the one that did it
Brainy02-Jul-21 06:43 AM
That exchange reminded me that Stalker 2 is coming out.
Futanari02-Jul-21 09:03 AM
ryder can suck my dick
Dal29002-Jul-21 02:38 PM
It's downright dirty, and encouraging op wars and shitposting is kind of a grave sin in my eyes
It's why I hated the catalog dude at first for spamming his shit and if you had an issue with it "talk about my discord in the thread"
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<302-Jul-21 02:57 PM
I'm just tired of the discord wars shitting up the thread(edited)
Krial02-Jul-21 02:57 PM
S a m e
🔇02-Jul-21 02:59 PM
Distoibed02-Jul-21 02:59 PM
It's kinda hilarious how Team Ryder wants their discord to be the target of all rando joins
Distoibed
It's kinda hilarious how Team Ryder wants their discord to be the target of all rando joins
Krial02-Jul-21 03:00 PM
the ironing
Mumu from NYC02-Jul-21 03:01 PM
Krial
the ironing
Dal29002-Jul-21 03:01 PM
The motherfucker told me "you guys have randos" and I was like WE JUST BOOTED LIKE FOUR PEOPLE OUT LET IN KDGJKADLJ
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<302-Jul-21 03:01 PM
Ryder just want control and always has
Mumu from NYC02-Jul-21 03:01 PM
there's no randos
moderation is at an all time high
Distoibed02-Jul-21 03:01 PM
I honestly don't care if Ryder's discord becomes the "official" one
we're gatekeeping harder than ever before
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<302-Jul-21 03:02 PM
imagine join a vrg instance just to drop a portal so you can run the instance
Mumu from NYC02-Jul-21 03:02 PM
because it's not just mods anymore
Distoibed02-Jul-21 03:02 PM
10% of the members are staff
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<302-Jul-21 03:02 PM
if they want every random person in their server its completely fine with me
Mumu from NYC02-Jul-21 03:02 PM
there's a total 26 people on moderation
up from like, 6
Mumu from NYC
there's a total 26 people on moderation
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<302-Jul-21 03:03 PM
21 4 bots one alt to own it
Dal290
The motherfucker told me "you guys have randos" and I was like WE JUST BOOTED LIKE FOUR PEOPLE OUT LET IN KDGJKADLJ
Distoibed02-Jul-21 03:04 PM
>you guys have randos
while ryder is subjecting his discord to the flow of randos while we're "harder" to reach and are gatekeeping harder
but like I said
let him have the spotlight
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<302-Jul-21 03:04 PM
yep
Dal29002-Jul-21 03:05 PM
Nah I don't think it is a matter of letting him have it, I know what I have heard from people around /vrg/
If anything I have noticed people want to sustain it mostly for shitposting with and around it(edited)
Krial02-Jul-21 03:09 PM
problem solved.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<302-Jul-21 03:09 PM
i mean it is clear which server people want to be in when I left ryders server yesterday i think they had around 200 ppl this has 325. they had 7 boosts this has 44. and and maybe ten percent of the posts inside it
Krial02-Jul-21 03:10 PM
or is that too drastic.
Dal29002-Jul-21 03:10 PM
Eh, insider jannies are stupid, just let the regular jannies do nothing and fuck up /vg/ more
🔇02-Jul-21 03:10 PM
We don’t need a pocket jannie krial.
Krial02-Jul-21 03:11 PM
Kk.
If it's up to me I'd rather not anyways.
🔇02-Jul-21 03:11 PM
Then don’t.
Eventually the powergrab will end.
Reminder it’s only been like a week or something?
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Dal29002-Jul-21 03:11 PM
Yee I remember when I brought up a purge within feedback and I got jumped by what felt like some goon squad
Full on greasers
Distoibed02-Jul-21 03:11 PM
this is just the new start of a generation of /vrg/
a new milestone in our history
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<302-Jul-21 03:12 PM
honestly fighting them is stupid. They will make themselves look dumb on their own
Distoibed02-Jul-21 03:12 PM
nothing special that time won't solve
Dal29002-Jul-21 03:12 PM
Motherfuckers had their hair slicked back and everything
Yeah I recognized a long time ago when somebody is trying to anti-something campaign, drop the subject entirely and let them make themselves look stupid
Like that one meme with the person ranting and slowly changing people's opinions to the opposite even when people were in favor to start with
🔇02-Jul-21 03:14 PM
I just want whoever is fucking with the op to at least include the calendar rentry under the events ):
Dal29002-Jul-21 03:14 PM
Like I said, whoever is doing it is trying hard to appear like a new person, or it is some new person who rarely visits/makes op
🔇02-Jul-21 03:15 PM
Yeah….
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<302-Jul-21 03:16 PM
it is funny that they are so desperate they are putting it in both the op and the rentry instead of just the rentry
Dal29002-Jul-21 03:16 PM
Let it be known my shop cord has never been posted once
EXCEPT FOR /SOC/ AND /R9k/
We found two pleasant individuals who were artist from that it was kind of funny
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<302-Jul-21 03:17 PM
you posted it on /SOC/ lol
Dal29002-Jul-21 03:17 PM
Nah somebody else did, we just manually filtered them by bombarding them at the door
This guy made me genuinely upset, they were so nice :c
Krial02-Jul-21 03:28 PM
Dm them dal
Get you that boipussi
Perrine02-Jul-21 04:10 PM
Dal tbh i think you're acting like this is srs bsns
The ryder and op stuff
Dal29002-Jul-21 04:15 PM
It's a minor annoyance at best
I just think and discuss shit extensively
Black Lily02-Jul-21 05:48 PM
It pisses me off because it just makes the thread worse
Brainy02-Jul-21 06:51 PM
Nothing wrong with them being into 2D and coming here.
Honestly Ryder should just rename their server to be essentially "Ryder's server", similar to what Muna did.(edited)
I mean he/she has a server of 200+ people so it makes sense to keep it going.(edited)
They just shouldn't try branding it as VRG if this is the actual main VRG server for all intents and purposes.(edited)
🔇02-Jul-21 06:54 PM
(;
Black Lily02-Jul-21 06:55 PM
Brainy02-Jul-21 06:56 PM
I left so I can't even participate in the dialog lol
Link?
Distoibed02-Jul-21 06:56 PM
>the graveyard is just as lively as Tokyo
Black Lily02-Jul-21 06:56 PM
The invite link is all over the op
Dal29002-Jul-21 06:56 PM
>six minute gaps in convo
>hour gap
BOOMIN
Black Lily02-Jul-21 06:57 PM
That's not even the worst channel in there
Shit is completely dead
Brainy02-Jul-21 06:57 PM
Oof I have to go through #welcome when I rejoin.
Black Lily02-Jul-21 06:57 PM
I'm a mod there
Brainy02-Jul-21 06:57 PM
Can you give me roles so I can skip #welcome ?
Black Lily02-Jul-21 06:58 PM
Already did(edited)
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Brainy02-Jul-21 07:00 PM
I made my contribution.
This server is actually called "Virtual Reality General" and that one is just "/vrg/alter", so shouldn't it be distinguished that way in the thread?
Dal29002-Jul-21 07:03 PM
Even if somebody sets it right, they will continue to escalate it and add it back in, they already put the link directly in the op instead of the intro
Brainy02-Jul-21 07:03 PM
Anyone can make the thread though right? Can't we just time it so that we have control of the next thread?
Dal29002-Jul-21 07:03 PM
Shouldn't work like that
Mumu from NYC02-Jul-21 07:04 PM
threadwars
Brainy02-Jul-21 07:04 PM
I know it shouldn't, but is it possible?
Dal29002-Jul-21 07:04 PM
Yeah its flame war crap
They found a way to mess with things, it will be abused, best option is for ryder to take down the link or stop saying a dead cord is "vrg" but he wont
🔇02-Jul-21 07:05 PM
Yeah, anyone can make an op, it’s just a matter of doing it at the right time.
Brainy02-Jul-21 07:05 PM
I mean it's just him or one of his friends creating the thread and using that link, isn't it?
I say we just coordinate around the time it expires so we do it first.
Problem solved.
Dal29002-Jul-21 07:06 PM
He should know better, and just remove the link
Brainy02-Jul-21 07:06 PM
So long as he has deniability about being responsible for the thread/link he can claim he has no influence over removing it there.
Dal29002-Jul-21 07:06 PM
One obviously got over the other, hanging on will continue flame war crap, fill the thread with discord arguing and get more people pissed off.
Brainy02-Jul-21 07:07 PM
That's why I say we should just be on top of it next time so our link is in there instead.
At least we can have control over the OP.
Dal29002-Jul-21 07:07 PM
Then what of the next thread
It doesn't matter in the end
Brainy02-Jul-21 07:07 PM
That's why I say we just time it. It's only once a day.
Dal29002-Jul-21 07:08 PM
Trust me, this has happened before, previously they used the excuse of removing the steam/discord over and over and it can last for dozens of threads
It isn't a good idea to try or do anything
🔇02-Jul-21 07:08 PM
Yeah, no thanks. If you want to do that, go for it. It’ll die off eventually.
Dal29002-Jul-21 07:08 PM
Defuse it by talking to the parties effected, right now ryder is too stubborn and people have their hands up his ass
Just let things settle down over time, people are getting annoyed about this matter anyway, it will sort itself out
Brainy02-Jul-21 07:10 PM
I mean most people if they were handed a community of 200+ for doing literally nothing would not want to give it up either. I understand that. It's hard building up a Discord. But he doesn't have to delete his server. He just needs to rebrand it and grow it organically. Most of the work has already been done for him with lurkers who are unlikely to leave.(edited)
🔇02-Jul-21 07:10 PM
Dal29002-Jul-21 07:11 PM
This has happened before too
🔇02-Jul-21 07:11 PM
He doesn’t care. His has the coomers he wants.
Dal29002-Jul-21 07:11 PM
People don't want to deal with two /vrg/'s, they will end up in this one
Black Lily02-Jul-21 07:12 PM
All we have to do is post the invite link to this one once a thread
Dal29002-Jul-21 07:14 PM
He still thinks carl is the world ender too
🔇02-Jul-21 07:15 PM
Carl is pretty tame tbh, he’s about as bad as Neko and Zan. They talk forever but can be asked to stop.
Also, inb4 rainy gets banned from rydercord.
Distoibed02-Jul-21 07:16 PM
ryder really wants his to be the main one
Dal29002-Jul-21 07:16 PM
Also
🔇02-Jul-21 07:17 PM
Also:
Do they not know that the key holder doesn’t matter?
Dal29002-Jul-21 07:18 PM
Most of us just wanted mutual cooperation and ran into problems with the chain of bullshit rip
I didn't like how things went with snak holding the keys, but at the end of the day he did hand them over
🔇02-Jul-21 07:19 PM
I just didn’t like how someone not actively part of the community had a large sway.(edited)
Dal29002-Jul-21 07:20 PM
For me I don't care how active or inactive they are, its all about playing ball and cooperation
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Absolute authority between a group of functional adults is kind of stupid in my opinion, it's only necessary if you are running a business or something
Or a project, see lots of projects fall apart around here because nobody wants to be "the guy"
@Black Lily side note, before I leave I think the best way to help expidite the process is to leave/step down
I have been out of it since the day I joined and saw Ryder was the one in charge haha
Brainy02-Jul-21 07:23 PM
I mean they can go ahead and ban me and ridicule me. Not like I care lol
I'd rather be the one calling it out than somebody else who has to worry about people being a dick to them in VRG threads or meetups over it.(edited)
Dal290
For me I don't care how active or inactive they are, its all about playing ball and cooperation
Brainy02-Jul-21 07:27 PM
Agree with this 100%. People should put community first and who controls it shouldn't matter so long as they do the same and act to preserve/protect the community.(edited)
🔇
Also:
Perrine02-Jul-21 08:12 PM
🔇02-Jul-21 08:17 PM
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Brainy02-Jul-21 08:20 PM
I still don't understand why they're so hyperfocused on who is keyholder. lol
So long as the person who is keyholder is working with others to improve the state of the server, does it matter?
I don't see why someone who would earnestly want to divide the community is somehow better for it?
The "vote" will come from which community users choose.
If people don't like how it's being operated or moderated, user numbers will reflect that.
But as of right now this server has 100 more users than that Discord.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<302-Jul-21 08:23 PM
also boosts and posts
Dal29002-Jul-21 08:24 PM
It boils down to echo chambers
I try hard to test people's views and poke them about if they are bullshitting or not with "I'll do this if this is what others want"
It doesn't earn you many friends, but it has to be done to see who is down to cooperate with others, and who wants to run off and "refuse" to come to the table while jerking off with like minded or easily manipulated people.
I don't blame ryder, I mostly blame the others who pushed him to do this and continue to feed into this
🔇02-Jul-21 08:26 PM
rainy, the thing you arent seeing, is that all of those in "charge" on that server currently play xiv together in the bird cord.
Brainy02-Jul-21 08:28 PM
So it's all the same clique of friends, not just random VRG?
Dal29002-Jul-21 08:28 PM
It always has been
Not letting in mods and trying to carefully control who gets to see/hear what is the name of the game
Why make decisions with other people who you can talk in your circle of friends who don't challenge you
That is why I was literally ready to try and push orb to even be a mod
I don't give a fuck who, more people just need to know whats up so these kind of clique/information games can't be played anymore
I came to a chan place to hang out with free thinking individuals and it really doesn't feel like that sometimes
Brainy02-Jul-21 08:32 PM
Do we gate the server too harshly?
I thought we just use the same gating method as before with the thread?
Dal29002-Jul-21 08:33 PM
Eh, its freestyle at the moment, only change is people are being asked about what boards/threads they mentioned
Brainy02-Jul-21 08:33 PM
Oh so it's just to be sure they actually know the board?
Dal29002-Jul-21 08:33 PM
That one guy from r9k knew what a nice meme was so that was cool
Brainy02-Jul-21 08:33 PM
As opposed to just running to Google for the answer?(edited)
Dal290
That is why I was literally ready to try and push orb to even be a mod
🔇02-Jul-21 08:33 PM
i wouldnt mind adding orb as a jannie when he is done being away from home
🔇
i wouldnt mind adding orb as a jannie when he is done being away from home
Dal29002-Jul-21 08:34 PM
I did chat with him quite a lot, he has some good ideas and I feel we could use his kind of voice around here
We just better have a "orb is drunk again" button haha
🔇02-Jul-21 08:35 PM
thats why jannie and not mod
Brainy
Do we gate the server too harshly?
Krial02-Jul-21 08:35 PM
Not really no.
🔇02-Jul-21 08:35 PM
because if he gets drunk and deletes peoples posts, and puts them in timeout, who cares?
Dal29002-Jul-21 08:36 PM
Yeah he will prob find a way to at least make it entertaining
Krial02-Jul-21 08:36 PM
I think the desktop role is good. Let’s people in who might normally have been turned away.
🔇02-Jul-21 08:36 PM
again for those that dont know, feel free to add anyone as a jannie
never cared for the very small mod team we had and i think its a good idea to expand
Brainy
Do we gate the server too harshly?
Black Lily02-Jul-21 08:37 PM
Peas want's no barrier for entry because they're one of the people we picked up in 2018 that didn't use 4chan at all
And people were fine with it because girl
🔇02-Jul-21 08:38 PM
also yuru simped for them
Black Lily
And people were fine with it because girl
Krial02-Jul-21 08:38 PM
Vile.
Black Lily02-Jul-21 08:38 PM
Keytar
Peas is Keytar
I'm tired of it being a "secret"
🔇02-Jul-21 08:38 PM
yeah, its sad that they dont talk to me anymore tbh, but its whatever
Dal29002-Jul-21 08:38 PM
Who didn't guess that though
Faith is still hanging around lmoa
Black Lily02-Jul-21 08:38 PM
Only retards
Black Lily
Peas want's no barrier for entry because they're one of the people we picked up in 2018 that didn't use 4chan at all
Brainy02-Jul-21 08:40 PM
Are they not allowed here because of that?
It's not like we're gating them out because of that now, are we?
I rage watch this because it's Evangelion but it's also not Evangelion and then there is random insert American chick to sell action figures.
Brainy
Are they not allowed here because of that?
Dal29002-Jul-21 08:44 PM
My only beef with rando types is we have entire side circles of non-vrgers actively pushing for what they want
I don't care what some non-channers want from our discord they can fuck off REEEEEEEEEEE
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes02-Jul-21 08:44 PM
I want
Dal29002-Jul-21 08:44 PM
This all started when we accepted all of the VRCA refugees
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes02-Jul-21 08:45 PM
You to post that in announcement
With August 13th
Dal29002-Jul-21 08:45 PM
SURE DANK SURE ADJGKLADJILKGJDAL
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes02-Jul-21 08:45 PM
Black Lily02-Jul-21 08:45 PM
What's an EVA
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes02-Jul-21 08:45 PM
I would but I cant
Futanari02-Jul-21 08:47 PM
>posting an anime in announcements that's not related to vr
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes02-Jul-21 08:47 PM
Yeah
Because many many people have been waiting for it
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<302-Jul-21 08:47 PM
also eva is not even good
Brainy02-Jul-21 08:47 PM
I thought the implication was we'd do it for a movie night in VR once it's out?
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes02-Jul-21 08:48 PM
It's okay not everyone is smart enough to know that the movies aren't just OVAs of the original series
Yeah that's the plan
Movie night August 13th
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Futanari02-Jul-21 08:50 PM
No one's gonna join
Brainy02-Jul-21 08:50 PM
I'll join!
Futanari02-Jul-21 08:51 PM
Dont
Krial02-Jul-21 08:51 PM
Dankmemes 2 days behind(edited)
Brainy02-Jul-21 08:51 PM
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes02-Jul-21 08:51 PM
Uhh
I am posting this to the future from 2 days in your past
Krial02-Jul-21 08:53 PM
And eva is good.
Brainy02-Jul-21 08:54 PM
What are our requirements for jannies?
Besides a good sense of judgment?
Brainy
Besides a good sense of judgment?
Distoibed02-Jul-21 08:56 PM
I'd say a bit of common vrg knowledge?(edited)
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Futanari02-Jul-21 08:59 PM
Brainy02-Jul-21 09:00 PM
I was going to suggest Rak as a mod. He's my friend, so I do have some nepotism, but he's been in VRG for awhile and goes to way more meetups than me. He's a good judge of character and doesn't have any biases from what I've seen.
I think he's just as invested as I am in protecting the culture of the community.
Distoibed02-Jul-21 09:01 PM
idk if we need more mods tbh
we've lietarlly expanded our staffcount with 100%
Futanari02-Jul-21 09:01 PM
We are fine
Brainy02-Jul-21 09:01 PM
Ah okie. I'm only suggesting it because it was mentioned earlier we can give out the role.
I just don't feel comfortable doing that myself because of my relationship to Rak.
Yeah when Distoibed mentioned it being expanded I checked the memberlist and I do see way more than before now.
Really all we need is people to just flag stuff when they see it (for when the bot is finished).
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes02-Jul-21 09:11 PM
jannies aren't mods though
Distoibed02-Jul-21 09:11 PM
Although more could be btter, but we're already like 15% of the current member list
Black Lily02-Jul-21 09:12 PM
I think we have more than enough already
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes
jannies aren't mods though
Brainy02-Jul-21 09:15 PM
Yeah I'm so used to calling jannies "mods". Unless you mean we have two different roles?
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes02-Jul-21 09:15 PM
different
not really sure what jannies are supposed to do
Brainy02-Jul-21 09:15 PM
Ohh you're right.
Yeah what I meant was jannie.
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes02-Jul-21 09:15 PM
shitpost in mods chat and post polls om voting
Brainy02-Jul-21 09:15 PM
I didn't realize we had two different roles. I meant jannie specifically (for flagging content once bot is added)/(edited)
But if you guys think we have enough jannies, it's fine. I just figured I'd toss out the suggestion after I saw the post.(edited)
Brainy02-Jul-21 09:27 PM
This is what I would propose as the policy for new Jannies on flagging (feel free to give feedback/suggestions on this).
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The bot will automatically detect and delete text mention of slurs every 24 hours. Anything else you see (including embedded media) can be flagged by reacting with and automatically added to the deletion queue.
What We Flag:
- Slurs, pejoratives, clearly discriminatory language/stereotypes towards protected classes.
- Clear and obvious "hateful" intent/context towards protected classes.
- Encouraging, wishing, hoping, or calling for harm/violence on a person/group (especially protected classes).
Protected Classes:
Age
Disability Status (can include Autism and Aspergers)
Gender (can include Transgender)
National/Geographic Origin
Race/Ethnicity
Religion
Sexual Orientation
Veteran Status
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This is basically a dumbed down version of what Discord itself would be looking for if we got reported. Let me know what you guys think?
I tried to keep it as simple as possible, but I don't know if I succeeded.
Futanari02-Jul-21 09:29 PM
It feels like homework
Brainy02-Jul-21 09:33 PM
It's mainly so people know what to flag.
/u/GemManBad02-Jul-21 09:33 PM
This is far to serious of a response to a non existent issue, good intent but the work will not cause any difference
People are gonna report the place eventually, and discord will find an excuse to delete it
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes02-Jul-21 09:34 PM
yeah I'm not going to give this much of a shit
Brainy02-Jul-21 09:34 PM
They can't if the post being reported is gone.
Because then we've already moderated against it.
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes02-Jul-21 09:34 PM
fuck discord
I would rather the server get nuked 5 more times then try to filter and censor to reddit discord tiers of shit
/u/GemManBad02-Jul-21 09:35 PM
Yeah a proper solution is a new platform but people have already developed stockholm syndrome for it, like vrc
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes02-Jul-21 09:35 PM
fuck off
Brainy02-Jul-21 09:36 PM
It would be if we were all expected to go through every channel doing it.
But if we just have Jannies who regularly read certain channels they can just flag it when they see it.
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes02-Jul-21 09:36 PM
discord doesn't auto moderate
/u/GemManBad
Yeah a proper solution is a new platform but people have already developed stockholm syndrome for it, like vrc
Brainy02-Jul-21 09:36 PM
Only other platform that wouldn't have these kinds of guidelines would be Telegram.
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes02-Jul-21 09:36 PM
its people in the discord reporting it
Brainy02-Jul-21 09:37 PM
I know.
/u/GemManBad02-Jul-21 09:37 PM
We just had a cleansing, so we have another year before another melty happens and its gets reported again, its inevitable
Brainy02-Jul-21 09:38 PM
People report it, it goes to triage queue, it takes roughly 48 hours for a Discord Trust & Safety Reviewer / Associate to see it depending on their backlog and investigate. If they find the post has been deleted they're just going to Resolve rather than Strike because the content was removed.
So if Jannies know what to look out for and are active in #mutes or #happening or whatever, they just need to flag it, bot will delete in 24 hours.
/u/GemManBad02-Jul-21 09:39 PM
Rather die standing than live kneeling, fuck discord and fuck bending to its rules
Futanari02-Jul-21 09:39 PM
Let this discord server die
/u/GemManBad02-Jul-21 09:39 PM
Yes
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Brainy02-Jul-21 09:39 PM
Actually it's a lot of old users I see posting the stuff that would get the server nuked (what Discord would define as "violent hate speech"). At least the stuff I've removed.
Futanari02-Jul-21 09:39 PM
We are 4chan
We are anonymous
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes02-Jul-21 09:40 PM
rainy
Futanari02-Jul-21 09:40 PM
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes02-Jul-21 09:40 PM
you completely
completely
missed what I said
Brainy02-Jul-21 09:40 PM
?
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes02-Jul-21 09:40 PM
the problem isn't people posting shit that discord doesn't like
the PROBLEM is that there are people joining the discord that will report people for posting stuff discord doesn't like
Brainy02-Jul-21 09:40 PM
I mean it's both the same thing. Just that the way Discord gets alerted to it is the people reporting it.
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes02-Jul-21 09:40 PM
no
And if you are seriously wanting reddit tier autism censorship
this isn't the community for you
and I have no idea how you got here
Brainy02-Jul-21 09:41 PM
I don't want that. I'm actually suggesting the bare minimum of what we need to do to be compliant.
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes02-Jul-21 09:41 PM
fuck discord
fuck being complaint
Brainy02-Jul-21 09:41 PM
Which is to flag content for later removal within the timeframe they are going to be reviewing it.
4Chan does something similar, except in their case they purge completely.
Futanari02-Jul-21 09:42 PM
vrg is honestly big for what it is honestly
/u/GemManBad02-Jul-21 09:43 PM
We had a server last a year and a half doing nothing, we have a bot that does a lot of the work for us now. Server deletion thankfully comes with a warning so people have time to save shit.
Futanari02-Jul-21 09:43 PM
Most of vg discords I'm in are smaller than just 100
/u/GemManBad02-Jul-21 09:43 PM
Even then it takes a day to start up again, its a solved issue, we dont need to hold our ground
Brainy02-Jul-21 09:44 PM
So we're not flagging the content for the bot to delete now? (edited)
/u/GemManBad02-Jul-21 09:44 PM
Bot automatically finds every which word and slur you can think of and deletes the message
Thank you June
Brainy02-Jul-21 09:45 PM
I know that's how it worked before, but I was under the impression we were working on a system to flag posts for the bot to delete so we don't have potential harm/violence mentioning protected class getting the server deleted (and eventually, all of its members).
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes02-Jul-21 09:46 PM
no one ever gets deleted
except the owner of the discord
Futanari02-Jul-21 09:46 PM
We don't wants strict shit(edited)
Brainy02-Jul-21 09:46 PM
Not yet. But eventually if it keeps getting deleted while categorized as a radicalized community, it will result in us being deleted too.
It all depends on how they categorize us. It's like if Stormfront were to make a community that got banned for violent hate speech, or even calls to violence. If another Stormfront community popped up they would recognize and ban it completely. Once more appeared, they would start banning the users themselves.
oh I'm angry that someone in here claiming to be vrg would rather suckle at discords teet and censor everything than be banned being what they believe in
Black Lily02-Jul-21 09:53 PM
There's no need to take things so seriously
The bot deleting shit passively is more than enough
I'd rather not censor anything that isn't actual cp
Brainy02-Jul-21 09:56 PM
The bot only deletes slurs and not the violent speech though.
Futanari02-Jul-21 09:56 PM
Cp is a big threat
Dal29002-Jul-21 09:56 PM
Remember when the server copped a fat ban for daring to distribute something of Xiexe's and pissing him off
Futanari02-Jul-21 09:56 PM
I did
Black Lily02-Jul-21 09:57 PM
Honestly we could bring back assets
Futanari02-Jul-21 09:57 PM
And they couldn't do shit about it
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes02-Jul-21 09:57 PM
thats why you need to know that it doesn't matter how much you suck discords cock
Brainy02-Jul-21 09:57 PM
Encouraging, wishing, hoping, or calling for harm/violence on a protected class, that's what can get us (community as well as users) blacklisted from the platform.
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes02-Jul-21 09:57 PM
they will ban you regardles
Brainy02-Jul-21 09:57 PM
THe takedown wasn't for DMCA though.
I've handled DMCA process before.
Black Lily02-Jul-21 09:57 PM
This ome wasn't
Our second nuke was
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes02-Jul-21 09:58 PM
Remember #assets
nevber 4get
Futanari02-Jul-21 09:59 PM
Ah yes
People asking how to join the discord
Funny
Brainy02-Jul-21 09:59 PM
What you got was a macro that combined these:
- Slurs, pejoratives, clearly discriminatory language/stereotypes towards protected classes.
- Encouraging, wishing, hoping, or calling for harm/violence on a person/group (especially protected classes).
The latter is what could get the community blacklisted as "radicalized". They would regard it similar to Stormfront and blacklist it. Any attempt at recreating it would immediately get deleted. The policy towards those servers is to ban and remove all users.
Black Lily02-Jul-21 09:59 PM
Yes that was our most recent nuke
We have much history
Brainy02-Jul-21 10:00 PM
That's why I suggested the flagging system so we flag that content as we see it.
Black Lily02-Jul-21 10:00 PM
Deep /vrg/ lore
Brainy02-Jul-21 10:00 PM
Because the more that happens the more the community is put at risk. Not just the server, but all the users themselves.
Futanari02-Jul-21 10:00 PM
Meh
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes02-Jul-21 10:00 PM
"oh I'm angry that someone in here claiming to be vrg would rather suckle at discords teet and censor everything than be banned being what they believe in"
Futanari02-Jul-21 10:01 PM
Our community has been fucked already ever since yuru took over
I don't know why anybody thought it would be a good idea to let a lawyer judge things unchecked yall crazy
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes02-Jul-21 10:03 PM
maybe you should join with an alt
June02-Jul-21 10:03 PM
I'm finally off work, I'll try to get the bot update out tomorrow night
Black Lily02-Jul-21 10:03 PM
I think Rainy's perspective is valuable but he's taking it too seriously
June02-Jul-21 10:03 PM
I've gotta survey a family members house
after that If I dont hit zero energy getting home I should be able to bang it out
Futanari02-Jul-21 10:04 PM
Can I namedrop pedophiles that I know that are in vrg :)
June
after that If I dont hit zero energy getting home I should be able to bang it out
Dal29002-Jul-21 10:04 PM
Take your time it's all good
Futanari
Can I namedrop pedophiles that I know that are in vrg :)
Black Lily02-Jul-21 10:04 PM
Cakey
Futanari02-Jul-21 10:04 PM
Benny
Brainy02-Jul-21 10:05 PM
I also don't see why this is a hill worth dying on. I mean are contributions like Carl's in that regard such an asset to this community that we should risk the server as well as all users being permanently banned to preserve it for 3 months before Discord nukes it? As opposed to us just flagging it for deletion in a 48 hour window so we stay in good standing, just like 4Chan does with expiration on threads?(edited)
Futanari02-Jul-21 10:05 PM
Dal29002-Jul-21 10:05 PM
With zero deletion and whatever it still took like 1-2 years for them to do something
Futanari
Benny
Black Lily02-Jul-21 10:05 PM
That's surprising
Dal29002-Jul-21 10:05 PM
I think any measures at all will get them to double take and potentially not delete
It is disappointing we have so many spergs willing to report though, know side chan servers that don't deal with this shit
Dal290
With zero deletion and whatever it still took like 1-2 years for them to do something
Brainy02-Jul-21 10:05 PM
Except we have a recent ban / deletion and whoever was reporting us knows that.
They also do notice that the users in the communities are the same.
That the leadership is mostly the same.
Futanari02-Jul-21 10:06 PM
There's so many randos in here I can namedrop
Brainy02-Jul-21 10:06 PM
That the name of the community is the same.(edited)
Dal29002-Jul-21 10:06 PM
I think its cold hearted automation and they don't spend more then five minutes deleting a server
Brainy02-Jul-21 10:06 PM
The policies may be stupid, but they're not too stupid to recognize the communities and users repeatedly violating them.
Dal29002-Jul-21 10:07 PM
We can prep and take actions to stall it, but getting oppressed on a platform as gamers is the name of the game
Brainy02-Jul-21 10:07 PM
It's not automated. They just have a backlog like every other platform during Covid seeing growth.
They will follow the link in the report and if it's gone they'll just resolve and likely not investigate further beyond that.
Because they see the content is being moderated.
Which is the whole goal of this system.
Dal29002-Jul-21 10:08 PM
You can count on the unreliability of things like this, and you really think they give a shit
I am half black and I run the risk of getting blasted because they get a pole up their ass because of BLM and shit
We are going to be oppressed no matter what we do, we can stall it, and clean it up, but I don't doubt they are just going to respond to the reports and hit us
It can take nearly 2 years thankfully
Brainy02-Jul-21 10:10 PM
Yes because they care about growth / retention and they don't want to delete if they don't have to in the interest of growth / retention. The same goes for radicalization. They don't want admit it's a problem and the less they have to address it the better for their transparency reports.
Just us doing this one thing is making us beneficial to them just by numbers.
Versus a negative.
I don't like it anymore than you do. But I suggested this system in the first place because it's not strict censorship, people still have a 48 hour window of unrestricted expression, and the historical discussion is preserved, which is already more than 4Chan does for threads.
Futanari02-Jul-21 10:25 PM
Rainy
You seem tense
Brainy02-Jul-21 10:31 PM
I'm not, it's just I sound too formal over text.
Because I'm used to writing in a different environment.
/u/GemManBad02-Jul-21 10:32 PM
How many emails you write a day
Brainy02-Jul-21 10:32 PM
Also it's hard for me to explain to someone who doesn't want any censorship at all why I'm suggesting censorship in any capacity.
I get that nothing about it is like 4Chan.
But there's no magical solution if we want to remain on this platform without eventually getting blacklisted.
As an entire community and users.
I wish it was different. But short of all of us going to Telegram there's no real solution other than to delete certain messages after 48 hours.
Every platform moderates this way and it's a cancer.
Futanari02-Jul-21 10:34 PM
It is what it is
/u/GemManBad02-Jul-21 10:36 PM
4th server now and none of us have received any warning about remaking servers
Brainy02-Jul-21 10:37 PM
I mean you can keep playing that game if you want. I'm just telling you it won't keep having the same result like you think it will. Especially with the kind of speech that's happening and users reporting you guys.
/u/GemManBad02-Jul-21 10:37 PM
Hell if discord completely nukes every server ever made with vrg in it, it'll force the thread and steamgroup into use. Ultimately a good thing.
Brainy02-Jul-21 10:38 PM
I also don't think you'll ever get away from users reporting because there will always be petty drama and people who report because they want to see the server get deleted.
I mean it will get to the point eventually where they will do more than nuke the Discord, they'll nuke all the users on the Discord.
Futanari02-Jul-21 10:39 PM
Good
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<302-Jul-21 10:40 PM
what did i miss while i was napping jesus
Black Lily02-Jul-21 10:41 PM
We could pool our money together and force June to code a new discord alternative(edited)
Futanari02-Jul-21 10:41 PM
Nah then random ass people will join in
/u/GemManBad02-Jul-21 10:41 PM
I mean, that is an option
Futanari02-Jul-21 10:41 PM
Blah blah blah
Drama drama drama
No
/u/GemManBad02-Jul-21 10:43 PM
Its about time someone made a discord with the option to run your own servers
Brainy
This is what I would propose as the policy for new Jannies on flagging (feel free to give feedback/suggestions on this).
- - - - - - - - - -
The bot will automatically detect and delete text mention of slurs every 24 hours. Anything else you see (including embedded media) can be flagged by reacting with and automatically added to the deletion queue.
What We Flag:
- Slurs, pejoratives, clearly discriminatory language/stereotypes towards protected classes.
- Clear and obvious "hateful" intent/context towards protected classes.
- Encouraging, wishing, hoping, or calling for harm/violence on a person/group (especially protected classes).
Protected Classes:
Age
Disability Status (can include Autism and Aspergers)
Gender (can include Transgender)
National/Geographic Origin
Race/Ethnicity
Religion
Sexual Orientation
Veteran Status
- - - - - - - - - -
This is basically a dumbed down version of what Discord itself would be looking for if we got reported. Let me know what you guys think?
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<302-Jul-21 10:43 PM
this is shit gay if it gets nuked a new one gets made
Futanari02-Jul-21 10:44 PM
And less randos
/u/GemManBad
Its about time someone made a discord with the option to run your own servers
Perrine02-Jul-21 11:39 PM
That's been around since 1988
Futanari02-Jul-21 11:40 PM
Team speak
Perrine02-Jul-21 11:41 PM
If you want more modern shit, Matrix
that's really about it
Brainy02-Jul-21 11:48 PM
Friend of mine runs a bunch of Linux communities that threw a fit over having to moderate and they went to Matrix.
🔇02-Jul-21 11:48 PM
jeez that was a lot
anyways.....
Perrine02-Jul-21 11:48 PM
IRC never changes
<abc-stuff:#Election> god.. shut him up
<abc-stuff:#Election> Perot still on ABC...
<NBC:#Election> perot still saying semantically null stuff on NBC
<dgross:#Election> Wisconsin goes to Clinton , 11 EV
<CNN-TV:#Election> hawaii has closed, but no reports yet
<CNN-TV:#Election> hawaii is expected to go to clinton
<jpm:#Election> Perot still rambling on BBC...
*** NBC has changed the topic on channel #Election to "Projection Clinton 265 Bush 64 Perot 0"
<abc-stuff:#Election> ABC to commercial
<CNN-TV:#Election> perot back on cnn
<NBC:#Election> nbc still giving weasel-time to perot
<StratMan:#Election> Perot on once again ... *sigh* *sigh* *sigh*
<NPR:#Election> Clinton just 5 ev short of vitory
<NPR:#Election> (victory)
<SodaPop:#Election> commentary to #discuss, please.
<abc-stuff:#Election> from NY_Vote D'Amato(R) Declaired winner in NY senate
<Indep:#Election> NM GOP gave "concession" speech ``last 12 years'' ``'best of our lives''
🔇02-Jul-21 11:48 PM
flagging is more for cunny posting, and shit like that
Brainy02-Jul-21 11:48 PM
If you want zero moderation, IRC would be the alternative.
Could also host your own server for that.
🔇02-Jul-21 11:48 PM
yeah sure post your cunny, but itll get removed later
Futanari02-Jul-21 11:48 PM
Sexy
🔇02-Jul-21 11:49 PM
makes it easy tbh
Futanari02-Jul-21 11:49 PM
Asylum post cunny
🔇02-Jul-21 11:49 PM
if you want to flag things that are violent hate speech thats good too
Im honestly just gonna block people that are just down disgusting
🔇02-Jul-21 11:53 PM
idk how you didnt already know about it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Black Lily02-Jul-21 11:55 PM
He's also gone to irl meetups
And doesn't know how to use a washing machine
🔇02-Jul-21 11:57 PM
his mom does the laundry for him, and he lives in the basement
Black Lily02-Jul-21 11:57 PM
I can respect him because he doesn't demy it and he doesn't shove it in people's faces all the time
🔇02-Jul-21 11:59 PM
ye
Futanari03-Jul-21 12:01 AM
Well
I knew this
Since the beginning anyways
I just forgot who he was
Black Lily03-Jul-21 12:03 AM
There's worse in here
We have people that have molested people at irl meetups
Futanari03-Jul-21 12:04 AM
Ok
Name drop
Stannic03-Jul-21 12:05 AM
drunk penumbra
🔇03-Jul-21 12:06 AM
@Black Lily if you want to make an alt i really dont care who holds the keys(edited)
Black Lily
We have people that have molested people at irl meetups
🔇03-Jul-21 12:10 AM
sadly, i try to prevent this, but it does happen
Black Lily03-Jul-21 12:12 AM
Sure if you want but I can only access my alt when I'm home
Futanari03-Jul-21 12:12 AM
Shota
More like
Pedo
🔇03-Jul-21 12:13 AM
let me know, it makes no difference to me who is key holder as long as they arent a schizo
June03-Jul-21 12:14 AM
no
dont give them up asylum
🔇03-Jul-21 12:14 AM
or someone power hungry
June03-Jul-21 12:14 AM
do not bend a knee
give them to a alt and throw away the password
literally fuck you
🔇03-Jul-21 12:14 AM
ive already done this tho?
Brainy03-Jul-21 12:14 AM
I like having Asylum because they listen to everyone's perspective.
June03-Jul-21 12:15 AM
yah but some people dont like asylum
Brainy03-Jul-21 12:15 AM
Not saying Lily wouldn't either, just saying I don't think you've done anything wrong.
🔇03-Jul-21 12:15 AM
i have access to it just so that i can check the emails for when discord says "get baleeted"
June03-Jul-21 12:15 AM
he is a good one to hold the keys because he doesnt give a fuck
black lilly is good too, but I worry about you getting peer pressured @Black Lily
Brainy03-Jul-21 12:15 AM
I guess what I'm trying to say is I think both (Lily, Asylum) are fine and all the people complaining either way are just whiners.(edited)
June03-Jul-21 12:15 AM
yah they are
Black Lily
Sure if you want but I can only access my alt when I'm home
🔇03-Jul-21 12:16 AM
alternative is i just give you the pw to the current keyholder, literally doesnt matter
June03-Jul-21 12:16 AM
it literally takes 1 drunk shitpost to fuck everything up
🔇
i have access to it just so that i can check the emails for when discord says "get baleeted"
Brainy03-Jul-21 12:16 AM
This is honestly the most important thing to me, that we have a heads up if for any reason we do get a warning, so we can then do a thorough cleaning and remove whatever got reported so Discord has to resolve.
June03-Jul-21 12:16 AM
they dont tell you what :(
Brainy03-Jul-21 12:16 AM
They don't tell you what, but I'll know from the macro.
Also I'm fairly certain the macro would be the same as last time.
June03-Jul-21 12:17 AM
if I finish up that manual thing
to the review channel thing
🔇03-Jul-21 12:17 AM
yeah, but when we get that email, im just going to ask you to have jannie bot purge literally everything
Brainy03-Jul-21 12:17 AM
Because it's likely the same asshole(s) reporting the same type of posts.
June03-Jul-21 12:17 AM
I'll make a backup trap option to nuke em all in the case of emergency
it is yep
Brainy03-Jul-21 12:17 AM
Asylum had a good suggestion too which I agree with.
That would catch a lot of it IMO.
June03-Jul-21 12:18 AM
those are the easy to find ones that they will report
🔇
yeah, but when we get that email, im just going to ask you to have jannie bot purge literally everything
June03-Jul-21 12:18 AM
yeah exactly
I'm gonna make the backup thing as well
🔇03-Jul-21 12:18 AM
alright
June03-Jul-21 12:18 AM
so you can offline view the discord though a single file in dropbox (plus the viewer)
but thats a longer term burner
Brainy03-Jul-21 12:18 AM
So long as we have all these tools, we have so many opportunities to salvage and avoid a Strike.
June03-Jul-21 12:18 AM
just have to make the recording soon
Brainy03-Jul-21 12:19 AM
All the proposed suggestions you've made (Asylum, June).
🔇03-Jul-21 12:19 AM
also would be good to have for invalids cord tbh
June03-Jul-21 12:19 AM
wilco
🔇03-Jul-21 12:19 AM
have something that automatically saves all images and videos to my gdrive or something
June03-Jul-21 12:19 AM
can do
time for another beer and get on vrc
cheers
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🔇03-Jul-21 12:20 AM
ye, ill see you in game soonish
@Brainy should get on and join the meets too sometime...
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Brainy03-Jul-21 12:21 AM
I was on last night with Rak, but I think I'm always on too late
June
black lilly is good too, but I worry about you getting peer pressured @Black Lily
Black Lily03-Jul-21 12:24 AM
I'm not really susceptible to peer pressure unless it's about something I haven't made up my mind about
Even then I only listen to people I respect or my friends
June03-Jul-21 12:25 AM
for sure, I'm just a protective person, sorry for being rude
I know asylum very well from meeing him irl
puking my guts out with him n shit
:)
Dal29003-Jul-21 12:26 AM
I just love the miscommunication that most of the people on the mod team don't give a fuck, all of us are just down to cooperate on shit lmoa
Black Lily03-Jul-21 12:26 AM
Well most people think if someone's a mod it's because they're power hungry
While I'm only here because I was asked to be
Dal29003-Jul-21 12:28 AM
TOO LATE I AM MAKING A NEW DALCORD THAT IS NU VRG
TRIPLE SPLIT LETS GOOOOOO
Brainy03-Jul-21 12:29 AM
I'm here because even though you all probably hate me for my suggestions / feel I don't belong here / etc., I love all of you and I always want to be able to come here to read your hot takes and hang out with you.
I'm in 100 different servers and out of all of them this has the most unique community (on VRC and on Discord).
I love each and every one of you (yes, even Carl).
Perrine03-Jul-21 12:31 AM
If people are bitching about who's in charge, you probably shouldn't change it to the people they want, in most cases
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🔇03-Jul-21 12:31 AM
i dont think these retards realize i was asleep for the nuke and didnt notice til like 3 hours after it happened
Perrine03-Jul-21 12:31 AM
because they care too fucking much
lol
People are projecting
Dal29003-Jul-21 12:32 AM
The first invite I got was to the rydercord lol
🔇03-Jul-21 12:32 AM
not my problem i anticipated the nuke a month before it happened and had a bit of people in here ready to moderate at all
June
for sure, I'm just a protective person, sorry for being rude
Black Lily03-Jul-21 12:33 AM
No need to apologize you're a friend
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Dal290
The first invite I got was to the rydercord lol
🔇03-Jul-21 12:33 AM
i sent you an invite to yuru's funeral like 2 years ago (^:
Perrine03-Jul-21 12:33 AM
This server was made 5/19 when the dumb orb yuru election drama shit was happening
🔇03-Jul-21 12:34 AM
yes, and i made it when yuru's melty started, because i thought they might delete it lol
Perrine03-Jul-21 12:34 AM
I figured it was because they were fixing to tear the server apart
getting everything ready as a backup is pretty smart tbh, didn't lose emotes and shit as a result
🔇03-Jul-21 12:34 AM
orb also started to win and i really thought it would get bonked at that point too
Perrine03-Jul-21 12:35 AM
Yeah for me it was the Orb thing
dude thirsts way too much
Dal290
The first invite I got was to the rydercord lol
Brainy03-Jul-21 12:35 AM
Same, it was the very first one up from what I was told by literally everyone sending me the invite too.(edited)
🔇03-Jul-21 12:35 AM
nah, orb is pretty good tbh
he just likes chaos
Black Lily03-Jul-21 12:35 AM
Orbs win was illegitimate because lurkers aren't people
🔇03-Jul-21 12:35 AM
^
if we remove orb it was between lily, onion and i
Black Lily
Orbs win was illegitimate because lurkers aren't people
Dal29003-Jul-21 12:36 AM
My logic is whatever the fuck /vrg/ became wasn't capable of representing itself correctly
Brainy03-Jul-21 12:36 AM
Honestly my gut feeling is that election drama and jealousy over that is what resulted in people reporting the server.
🔇03-Jul-21 12:36 AM
dunno exact numbers since it was removed while i slept
Dal29003-Jul-21 12:36 AM
Most of the thread boys avoided it like the plague, not sure we can fix that kind of shit
Perrine03-Jul-21 12:36 AM
Nah, orb doesn't pass the sniff test
🔇03-Jul-21 12:36 AM
i like orb tho ):
he just isnt fit to lead
Perrine03-Jul-21 12:37 AM
You can like someone but not want them in charge
I like me but I do n't want me in charge
Dal29003-Jul-21 12:37 AM
Guys guys, the most suitable owner is manami
Brainy03-Jul-21 12:38 AM
That's why I feel Asylum and Lily are fine and the people complaining are just stirring drama and turning this into a popularity contest.
🔇03-Jul-21 12:38 AM
thats what its always been tho rainy
Brainy03-Jul-21 12:38 AM
I really feel like it's just jealousy / resentment.
🔇03-Jul-21 12:38 AM
never questioned why it was called yubucord?
Dal29003-Jul-21 12:39 AM
I thought the yuru shit was a joke or ironic, same with the crown
If anybody around here starts wearing a crown I will literally kill you
Because I'm used to writing in a different environment.
Pineapples03-Jul-21 03:40 AM
Still catching up on this stuff, but I think it's good that you know exactly how this kind of thing works and can explain it as such. Otherwise we're left trying to guess at how they run things.
Pineapples
Still catching up on this stuff, but I think it's good that you know exactly how this kind of thing works and can explain it as such. Otherwise we're left trying to guess at how they run things.
Yeah they changed it yesterday after denying they've done anything to present it as the main Discord.
Someone else must be inserting it into thread OP! We're not claiming anywhere that it's the main VRG server! But it's just as much the main VRG server as the other server! Since you complained though we're going to rename it like the main server!
It's like 12-year-olds lol
Dal29003-Jul-21 03:28 PM
Eh, it's better then the terrible goof from before, now change the icon :^)
It's going to be real funny how they react when lily gets account owner though
What new colorful excuse will be invented this time
Perrine03-Jul-21 03:39 PM
?
Dal29003-Jul-21 03:40 PM
Their excuse for "not being happy" is aslyum is owner
None of the current mods here give a shit about who is owner, mostly everybody can/is trusted with it
"if orb or lily has owner" is their shit as you saw before
Lily just made a new owner account, we are just going to transfer it back to him, they will probably find a new excuse as to why they are unhappy or whatever
Krial03-Jul-21 03:41 PM
Eh
Honestly I expect em to fold the knee then
They’ll prolly keep it up just for their little friend group
But I doubt it’ll go on much longer.
Dal29003-Jul-21 03:42 PM
I doubt it
Krial03-Jul-21 03:42 PM
It’s not THAT big a deal considering only a few active users browse there over here
Most browse both or this one solely
Shonen, yawnsu, and a few others are active there but not here
But mostly it’s just dead. I think if anything it’s sitting pretty so when inevitably we get nuked again, they’ll conveniently already have “another discord up and running”
Dal29003-Jul-21 03:43 PM
I just don't like the damage to the thread or the thread op war crap
Krial03-Jul-21 03:43 PM
It’s a long con. I think people think it’s an immediate power grab, when in reality it’s a long con.
Dal29003-Jul-21 03:44 PM
I think a line was already crossed when they shilled it, some of the people who pushed Ryder to do this knew exactly what they would be creating in terms of a shitstorm
Excuse to de-legitimize the idea of a /vrg/ discord, splintering even if it is dead for minsinformation reasons
Its a shitposting buffet and Ryder doesn't get that, but the people pushing him do
Krial03-Jul-21 03:45 PM
Given time, it will die
Or kept on life support
And then we get nuked again and THEN they immediately shill
Dal29003-Jul-21 03:45 PM
Just like how we have these posters spamming the thread with how "comfy" his is, while shitting on everything else, and fucking with the OP, while putting in Yuru's event
Too much of this is sussy as fuck
Krial03-Jul-21 03:46 PM
Like. Idk how far they’d take it but
If I were trying to power grab
I’d do what they were doing right now. Then get orbiters to spam report this one
THEN shill my own
But I don’t think they think it’s that serious. I hope
Just thinking logically
Dal29003-Jul-21 03:47 PM
That isn't the game, it is misinformation and shitting on the idea that we kind of voted for a /vrg/ discord, and wanted one
It is the perfect bait to rip up in the thread, and use aggressively, and the bait laid in the thread is too damn perfect to be a third party
Krial03-Jul-21 03:47 PM
I’m curious as to what happens when Lily’s back in charge
We shall see
Dal29003-Jul-21 03:49 PM
"This is why we should just use the catalog guys" "I'm just going to remove the discord ok guys? ok I'm doing it anyway" "Now I'll put in my discord"
Krial03-Jul-21 03:49 PM
I saw that too
Dal29003-Jul-21 03:52 PM
Basically this is why /vrg/ got pushed into a discord and I hate it, using the thread as a shitting ground or not caring for it is why we are here
Krial
Is clearly tongue in cheek lol
Distoibed03-Jul-21 04:12 PM
ofc it is
🔇03-Jul-21 04:26 PM
Finally awake
Going to get lunch and stuff first then I’ll hop on pc to transfer.
Brainy03-Jul-21 04:29 PM
I don't think it matters who is leader. The moment it's changed they're going to say it needs to go to a vote, like Yuru was saying.
Then it's just more drama.
Dal29003-Jul-21 04:29 PM
Haha fuck what yuru said
Brainy03-Jul-21 04:30 PM
I honestly think all the musical chairs about who is running the server is a gigantic distraction and only a source of drama.
🔇03-Jul-21 04:30 PM
Yuru lost all competency for being a leader when they had their melty
🔇
Yuru lost all competency for being a leader when they had their melty
Brainy03-Jul-21 04:30 PM
What happened with that?
🔇03-Jul-21 04:31 PM
Yuru was questioned on the rules of the election, and then left after not answering anything.
Brainy03-Jul-21 04:32 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if the reason the server got reported was all the drama around the election last time.(edited)
Dal29003-Jul-21 04:32 PM
My biggest problem with him was assuming supremacy, in feedback he popped off saying "If I can't have the final say on things I don't agree with why admin its a bad deal"
I had to back plenty of things he did that I didn't %100 agree with, same with others here
That is kinda the name of the game when you work with a team
Kinda.....working with the team
I went public with how I felt about shit and I was surprised to find out more people disagreed with him then just me
🔇03-Jul-21 04:33 PM
Yeah Yuru didn’t want a team, they wanted North Korea.
Dal29003-Jul-21 04:34 PM
You new guys couldn't see how much he pressured for unbanning or never kicking
Brainy03-Jul-21 04:34 PM
Yuru didn't want to ban anyone right?
Ever?
Dal29003-Jul-21 04:34 PM
He wanted to let jelly back in near the end and I had to explain why that was a bad idea
After I just told him how he did a big fat breach of trust/doxx a week ago
Brainy03-Jul-21 04:35 PM
There's a lot of tribal knowledge here about why people were removed / banned. Do we have a list somewhere?
Dal29003-Jul-21 04:36 PM
It was usually discussed at the time
Brainy03-Jul-21 04:36 PM
Seems important with how often leadership changes around here so there's an understanding of why certain people shouldn't be allowed back (or at least historical context to consider when evaluating their appeal).
Dal29003-Jul-21 04:37 PM
DRpepper was a pedo ect
Brainy03-Jul-21 04:37 PM
So it's mostly been the same mods / jannies sticking around throughout?
🔇03-Jul-21 04:37 PM
Most prominent are exsevenn, zazie, jelly, tiger, Luna…
Dal29003-Jul-21 04:37 PM
Just ask human resources work really well
Dal290
DRpepper was a pedo ect
Brainy03-Jul-21 04:37 PM
Yeah see, if this is no exaggeration, it seems like something we should really have recorded for posterity so there's no oversight.
Dal29003-Jul-21 04:38 PM
You are thinking too long term, I am here for the length of /vrg/ and so are the others
We will be around
Brainy03-Jul-21 04:38 PM
So the mods / jannies usually stay?
🔇03-Jul-21 04:38 PM
We don’t need to record it, it’s pretty obvious when someone goes “hey I just met some kids in a public world and they live close to me, I’m going to meet them irl”
Dal29003-Jul-21 04:38 PM
Most of the time the usual people who mod/jannie have swapped in and out, like spheri or fogwick, quackers at some point
Distoibed03-Jul-21 04:39 PM
@Brainy just a quick fact
Yuru is a defense lawyer
try arguing with that
Dal29003-Jul-21 04:39 PM
I did for months rip
🔇03-Jul-21 04:41 PM
it was too much drama in #mods whenever someone wanted to ban/kick someone and yuru decided to come check it again.
Dal29003-Jul-21 04:41 PM
Brainy03-Jul-21 04:41 PM
That's also why documentation is important, because then you'd have something to point to in the case of someone like Yuru.
🔇03-Jul-21 04:41 PM
We don’t really change mods often anyways.
Dal29003-Jul-21 04:42 PM
I hate to say it but I still remember why Rasmus was memed on 4 years ago
Not going to forget megacancer/problem peeps
Brainy03-Jul-21 04:42 PM
I just know in all the communities I've run that it helps to document. Especially if people come back on alts, so you have a record of all their alts.
Krial03-Jul-21 04:42 PM
There are so many god damn vrg historians here you’re considered out of touch if you DONT know everything from the past 4 years.
Distoibed03-Jul-21 04:42 PM
Yuru is the kinda guy that would reintroduce a rabid pit-bull to a kindergarten because "it's been 2 weeks since he last mauled a kid"
Brainy03-Jul-21 04:43 PM
I mean it makes sense to allow decay on small violations, or consider appeals.
I just don't think it makes any sense at all if there's any factual evidence the person is a pedophile. lol
But I'm wondering if Yuru's hangup was that there was no record or documentation.
At that point we get tribal knowledge, telephone, and any transition of power can result in someone mistrusting the observances of the old guard.
Krial03-Jul-21 04:44 PM
Yuru thinks discord should operate exactly like 4chan where bans are easily avoided.
I would imagine
Or at least circumvented.
Brainy03-Jul-21 04:45 PM
I can see why a lawyer would have issues with that.
Not trying to excuse it.
Krial
Yuru thinks discord should operate exactly like 4chan where bans are easily avoided.
Dal29003-Jul-21 04:45 PM
Nah my issue is this isn't 4chan
Brainy03-Jul-21 04:45 PM
Just I can see why they were probably wishy-washy on things they may not have personally witnessed or had documentation to go on.
🔇03-Jul-21 04:45 PM
Yuru thought that we should operate exactly like 4chan. Meaning you can read, but not post.
Dal29003-Jul-21 04:45 PM
This is kind of a discord, enabling bullshit is why our thread is shit, and why your event was crashed to pieces
We need to actually operate like a community instead of exposing people to bullshit 500 times because it would be mean to bop em
🔇03-Jul-21 04:46 PM
There is no “banning” on 4chan in the same sense as a discord ban.
Brainy03-Jul-21 04:46 PM
So Yuru did believe what you are saying now about the pedo person, but thought we should still allow them to stick around, just in read-only mode?
4Chan does ban, just from posting. But I get what you're saying (about Yuru).(edited)
Brainy
So Yuru did believe what you are saying now about the pedo person, but thought we should still allow them to stick around, just in read-only mode?
Dal29003-Jul-21 04:46 PM
Shit like booting people who were extreme problems is something I have been doing without any jannie abilities and just under the table in a sense for a while
Brainy
4Chan does ban, just from posting. But I get what you're saying (about Yuru). (edited)
Krial03-Jul-21 04:47 PM
Yeah. But it’s laughably easy to get around. Banning is at most an inconvenience and I can attest to that is the viewpoint therein.
Brainy03-Jul-21 04:47 PM
Yeah I agree 100% on it being easy to get around.(edited)
Krial03-Jul-21 04:48 PM
It’s understood to just be something to inconvenience people. It’s not meant to rid them from the community.
Krial
Yeah. But it’s laughably easy to get around. Banning is at most an inconvenience and I can attest to that is the viewpoint therein.
Dal29003-Jul-21 04:48 PM
Yee, but sticking up for guys like jelly until the end isn't kosher
Brainy03-Jul-21 04:48 PM
They do try to rid people who post really bad stuff (as in illegal stuff). But you can never keep these people from coming back unfortunately.
Krial03-Jul-21 04:48 PM
Oh brother I’m with you
Dal29003-Jul-21 04:48 PM
We need the ability to carve off the cancer otherwise we will have more moobs and more darkwizards
Krial03-Jul-21 04:48 PM
If we had the methods to permanently rid of em the site they would
This ain’t 4chan. It’s just a community based around it
Making it emulate it In all forms isn’t going to work for the simple reason that we all have fucking usernames.
Dal29003-Jul-21 04:49 PM
Yee I getcha, but basically do you know who Rasmus is
Krial03-Jul-21 04:49 PM
I’m pro removal
100%
Just saying what I think yuru likely thinks
Dal29003-Jul-21 04:50 PM
Yeah I get his logic to some extent, but I just hate how he enables it to the extreme
Brainy03-Jul-21 04:50 PM
I don't know what Yuru's rationale was. I'm just giving them the benefit of the doubt that they may not have wanted to rely on what they deemed "hearsay" or secondhand accounts without any real documentation (which is why I suggest having some documentation, especially in the event leadership changes). Either way though if there's this strong of a sentiment that someone is an actual predator we probably shouldn't tolerate having them around here in any capacity period.(edited)
Dal29003-Jul-21 04:50 PM
Jelly might of had a chance to move on if there was some solid closure and he was definitively booted from the community
But instead, he is offered a lifeline, and believes years after screwing the pooch to the most extreme of measures, that the place might be cool if %95 of it was gone
Tiger bugged the shit out of the halo cord because yuru lied to me and others and told him he could get right back in in a month
Darkwizard was spamming every channel he was in, and people were resorting to spamming the channels he would talk in
Because we didn't just ban the obvious mentally unstable tardo
Mamamad was tolerated, and people who thought it was funny to expose the place to him were tolerated, because we didn't do shit against it
The list goes on enabling crap like that, and our events are shifting to invite+ because of how bad it has gotten
AdminPerson03-Jul-21 04:53 PM
Dal29003-Jul-21 04:54 PM
also I hate 4chan jannie logic of it'll sort itself out because more often then not entire threads die because one or even two malicious shitposters can grind a thread into the ground
🔇03-Jul-21 04:56 PM
@Black Lily deed has been done, tell ryder to delete themselves (:
Brainy03-Jul-21 04:57 PM
I mean it's like you said. It's not the same as 4chan. It's Discord / VRChat / meetups. The environment and experience is different than just a general thread on a board. They can't be moderated / approached the same way in every single instance.
Nobody is going to want to go to a meetup if they know there's an actual confirmed pedophile at the meetup. lol
Brainy
I mean it's like you said. It's not the same as 4chan. It's Discord / VRChat / meetups. The environment and experience is different than just a general thread on a board. They can't be moderated / approached the same way in every single instance.
Dal29003-Jul-21 04:58 PM
Plus we are using a social game and I have to know the name of the shitsmears who keep taking a dump in people's cereal
The game changes when you involve names
Brainy03-Jul-21 04:58 PM
Yeah nothing about this is anonymous at all.
There's also potential for stalking / recrimination on here because the platform is different.
🔇03-Jul-21 04:58 PM
if ryder doesnt delete they can name it "/vrg/ streamers"
since all the people actively using that one are streamers/tiger
Brainy03-Jul-21 04:59 PM
I don't think he should delete it, but it's stupid not to rename it, while also pushing it as the main Discord.
Dal29003-Jul-21 04:59 PM
Eh, nobody wants to post in two /vrg/'s
Brainy03-Jul-21 04:59 PM
He should just do like Invalidum, Muna, etc., and make it a personal Discord.
BTW dumb question, but I just want to be sure. We do ban that weirdo, right?
The Jelly/pedo person?
🔇03-Jul-21 05:01 PM
we ban problematic people
jannies cant ban/kick
Brainy03-Jul-21 05:02 PM
But he's banned right now though?
🔇03-Jul-21 05:02 PM
if people are annoying, kick them, if they continue ban
no, cant ban people unless they join
Brainy03-Jul-21 05:02 PM
Ah okay, so he's not in the community now, we just keep an eye out if he does show up?
BTW if that person ever does join or say anything groomy, you can report him to Discord when you ban him as well.
They have a legal obligation to report him to NCMEC if that happens.
Assuming he doesn't delete all evidence.
Not sure if the situation has changed (doubt it), but they weren't backing up chat logs / chat history.
Dal29003-Jul-21 05:05 PM
We usually don't report our own, it is hard to figure out what is or isn't bullshitting, but calling that kind of attention down shouldn't be on us with that
DrPepper/Ex is already known by the authorities or whatever
We can't/shouldn't do much more then boot him
Brainy03-Jul-21 05:05 PM
I know what you mean, I used to think that way (like "what if they're joking?"). But I've gotten to the point where if it's not obvious joking I know it's better not to risk it.
Because you can tell when it's obvious joking around.
Dal29003-Jul-21 05:06 PM
Pretty much don't fuck with that
Brainy03-Jul-21 05:06 PM
Also if it's joking towards someone who is actually underage, I don't care if it's a joke, I report.
Your server allows or encourages dehumanizing or discriminatory content, or incites violence towards an individual or community.
I just want to say it triggers me so much that they combine two separate Strike reasons into one macro without specifying which apply (or both). (edited)
Just FYI, incites violence towards an individual or community can also mean targeted statement towards individual and not just violent hate speech.(edited)
🔇03-Jul-21 05:31 PM
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
itll be fine
Brainy03-Jul-21 05:32 PM
Yeah I'm confident we'll get 99% of what we need to (that they actually care about) with the bot flagging.
"Hey guys, how do you feel about removing the channels most likely to result in mentions of gamer words?"
Futanari03-Jul-21 09:17 PM
Ahahahahahahah
Look at this dood
Brainy
Click to see attachment🖼️
Dal29003-Jul-21 09:18 PM
If I remember correctly that guy got bopped from here for being a shidposter or somethinhg
Black Lily03-Jul-21 09:19 PM
Because he has a history of being a shitter in other 4chan communities
Futanari03-Jul-21 09:19 PM
They dont know
They dont look into people past info
If either they can change
Or still be a cunt
Black Lily03-Jul-21 09:20 PM
I think it's funny that Ryder's discord has the most randos
Futanari03-Jul-21 09:21 PM
I find it funny ryder bitching about me
He cant talk shit back in melty zone
Im waiting
Black Lily
Because he has a history of being a shitter in other 4chan communities
Dal29003-Jul-21 09:22 PM
I am so fucking glad we can just boot obvious troublemakers now jesus CHRIST AHHHHHHHHHHH
Black Lily03-Jul-21 09:23 PM
@🔇 are you alright with me giving your alt an admin role
🔇03-Jul-21 09:33 PM
thats fine, gives us the option when one of us are asleep to do something
Futanari03-Jul-21 09:33 PM
@🔇 i cant access actions is that normal?
Dal290
If I remember correctly that guy got bopped from here for being a shidposter or somethinhg
🔇03-Jul-21 09:34 PM
yeah i banned him because vauun mentioned he used to be in a community with him and he was a tryhard asshole 24/7
also he posted in the ryder cord that he was going to intentionally be an asshole here
Futanari
@🔇 i cant access actions is that normal?
🔇03-Jul-21 09:34 PM
yes, just tell a mod to post your action tbh
Dal29003-Jul-21 09:34 PM
Gud call, my patience for hearing complaints/dealing with that kind of shit is thin
Futanari03-Jul-21 09:35 PM
Oh ok qt
🔇03-Jul-21 09:35 PM
but also i am waiting for onion to get jackbot up, since i had him set up automatic role swapping
with timeouts and shit
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<303-Jul-21 09:44 PM
>ryder deleting guns and automotive
Futanari03-Jul-21 09:45 PM
Ryder is not listening to anyone but himself
./a.out03-Jul-21 10:20 PM
I think the bot's ready now
running him through some tests
Futanari03-Jul-21 10:23 PM
Honestly
Just leave the server
No point on looking at it when its fucking dead
./a.out03-Jul-21 10:25 PM
So for those unfamiliar with my bot, I implemented an automatic timeout checker. So if you use the bot to put someone in timeout, it'll keep track of when to take them out of timeout and do it automatically when the time comes
stores it in a nice text file as well, to which dates can be edited manually, since this is the file that the bot checks to see when to let them out(edited)
Mumu from NYC03-Jul-21 10:37 PM
feedback don't let in ryder refugees
they were literally in a instance late last night just talking shit for 45 minutes saying "oh yeah i'll never join their server"(edited)
Black Lily03-Jul-21 10:49 PM
I think we're better off if they never join
Guno03-Jul-21 10:58 PM
they were pruning channels that just hadnt had ANY posts in a while btw
which i voted against because stuff like soccer obviously wont get posts off-season
Black Lily03-Jul-21 11:05 PM
But the entire discord only gets like ten posts a day
🔇03-Jul-21 11:05 PM
its not likely to get posts anyways, its a splinter discord
Black Lily03-Jul-21 11:06 PM
Ryder should turn it into an actual inner circle
Krial03-Jul-21 11:07 PM
They already have one don’t they
Black Lily03-Jul-21 11:09 PM
No i don't think so
Yawnsu does
Ryder's discord doesn't have a reason to exist since it didn't take off as the official vrg discord
June03-Jul-21 11:12 PM
can jannies get the ability to pin?
🔇03-Jul-21 11:13 PM
uhh, i think that requires the manage channels perm?
June03-Jul-21 11:13 PM
can pin in here
let me check
Futanari03-Jul-21 11:13 PM
I can
June03-Jul-21 11:14 PM
cant pin in feedback
Black Lily03-Jul-21 11:14 PM
It's part of the manage messages permission
🔇03-Jul-21 11:14 PM
oh, yeah that makes sense
when i set up feedback i didnt want anyone to be able to delete stuff there
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Black Lily03-Jul-21 11:15 PM
I don't understand why discord doesn't let us manage literally everything separately
🔇03-Jul-21 11:15 PM
the same reason they dont give us specific reasons for bans
okay, so jackbot is up and running, it basically only handles changing roles for us and remembers when to release them
*timeout @<user> <time> <d for days, h for hours>
*nsfw @<user> <time> <d for days, h for hours>
*noimage @<user> <time> <d for days, h for hours>
(edited)
Futanari04-Jul-21 12:09 AM
Good
Wait days
How will time work tho?
Like
What about an hour or so
Put .3?
🔇04-Jul-21 12:14 AM
nah, a day is the smallest amount of punishment
ill have onion add hours eventually tho, just getting basic functionality in is important tho, so everyone can get used to it
Futanari04-Jul-21 12:17 AM
Ah ok
Futanari04-Jul-21 12:33 AM
Checked the guys twitch and hasnt been live in 4 years so hes alright
Im satisfied at the boards he browses
./a.out04-Jul-21 12:40 AM
might be able to add the hours feature tonight, but if not, then once I get back from vacation
🔇04-Jul-21 12:41 AM
no rush
Perrine04-Jul-21 12:45 AM
tbh I think people are caring a bit too much about the existence of rydercord
Futanari04-Jul-21 12:46 AM
I love ryder cord
Black Lily04-Jul-21 12:55 AM
Nobody cared until the fucked with the op
./a.out
Click to see attachment🖼️
Brainy04-Jul-21 12:56 AM
Thank you for all your hard work making this!!
./a.out04-Jul-21 12:56 AM
no problemo, I like coding useful shit lol
speaking of which
hours feature is added
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Futanari04-Jul-21 12:57 AM
Damn nice
@Mumu from NYC we can sex the bot now
Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.
🔇04-Jul-21 01:01 AM
Pinned a message.
looks good now
it rounds the hour, so try to make it longer than an hour
Krial04-Jul-21 01:02 AM
Oh oh can we change the role back to gay baby
I feel we need gay baby still
./a.out04-Jul-21 01:05 AM
I'm for this(edited)
Black Lily04-Jul-21 01:12 AM
What else can the bot do
Poonis
ExecutiveJackbotBOT04-Jul-21 01:12 AM
I too, dream of poonis.
./a.out04-Jul-21 01:12 AM
that lol
Black Lily04-Jul-21 01:12 AM
Sneed
Thanos
./a.out04-Jul-21 01:13 AM
I removed a lot of the things the other bot had so that it wasn't spamming all the chat channels every 5 seconds. Gave it a good grooming
can give you the date tho if you do *date
*date
ExecutiveJackbotBOT04-Jul-21 01:13 AM
The current date is 7/4/2021 5:13:38 AM (UTC)
Black Lily04-Jul-21 01:13 AM
Wrong timezone
./a.out04-Jul-21 01:14 AM
yeeea, I used utc so that nobody wins
*count
ExecutiveJackbotBOT04-Jul-21 01:14 AM
There are 332 people in this server
Black Lily04-Jul-21 01:14 AM
Isn't that Spheri's timezone
./a.out04-Jul-21 01:15 AM
lemme check
no
2 hours behind
Black Lily04-Jul-21 01:15 AM
Close enough
./a.out04-Jul-21 01:16 AM
indeed, especially with his sleep schedule lol
Futanari04-Jul-21 01:25 AM
Post what he's saying
:)
Brainy04-Jul-21 01:26 AM
Not going to post what I was sent in DMs, but here's an example:
Black Lily04-Jul-21 01:29 AM
I think that was referring to dot
Brainy04-Jul-21 01:30 AM
Does he just call everyone schizo?
Futanari04-Jul-21 01:30 AM
Hes upset im janny
Brainy04-Jul-21 01:31 AM
Maybe I'm reading too much into this then. Either way I'm just ignoring them because this is so stupid
Black Lily04-Jul-21 01:32 AM
Yes, schizo is the go to insult these days
Brainy04-Jul-21 01:32 AM
I really hope people aren't trying to suck me into drama either
Yeah I know most people throw around schizo / autist / etc. on here. I just thought it was being directed at me with yesterday plus DMs.
Still dumb either way (directed at anyone).(edited)
Futanari04-Jul-21 01:34 AM
I just tend to ignore it lmao
Black Lily04-Jul-21 01:34 AM
You can show the dms if you want
Brainy04-Jul-21 01:34 AM
I hope people will just go back to normal and forget this shit after a week.
Black Lily04-Jul-21 01:34 AM
It'll take months but they will eventually(edited)
Unless cab gets involved then it'll go on for years
Or RandoHero
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Brainy04-Jul-21 01:47 AM
Yeah honestly we should probably just ignore him and anyone else messaging us about him. I get the feeling now it's just drama stirring
Has me wondering now if that's what people are trying to do in the thread too.
Krial04-Jul-21 02:58 AM
That was 100% for dot
Futanari04-Jul-21 03:09 AM
They never even normally talked to me ever
All they do is sit in their circle and listen to bullshit
Brainy04-Jul-21 03:25 AM
Yeah I think people are trying to feed into drama.
Don't take the bait and just ignore it, whether it's from Ryder directly or from others playing into it.
/u/GemManBad04-Jul-21 04:07 AM
the best way to play the game is not to play(edited)
Brainy
I don't think we've ever banned anyone for just gamer word?
Pineapples04-Jul-21 04:09 AM
Damn near everyone who ever gets in trouble for anything will always say they "just" did one tiny thing one time. Just posted one picture, just said one thing, etc.. They always lie about what they actually did so they can trick everyone else into thinking the mods overreacted about something.
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Mumu from NYC04-Jul-21 04:49 AM
"hey can you unban me from the stream i didn't do anything" reads logsban reason: racism
Black Lily04-Jul-21 04:54 AM
What's wrong with racism
/u/GemManBad
the best way to play the game is not to play (edited)
Perrine04-Jul-21 05:07 AM
I mean tbh everything that's going on in here, the concern and all that, is kinda what they want to have happen. The more people talk, build up some sense of opposition, and start treating things as serious business, the more the discord becomes exactly the sort of thing that people have been making fun of for ages.
One day, someone in this little secret channel will leak logs of this weird frantic attitude and the drama will explode.
Little daily updates with log snippets? This "worry" and "concern" over the thread OP and discord server titles?
You guys are saying it's a group of like 7 people with randos and dead discussion
What does it matter that they're shitposting about you
My opinion: don't use this channel as a private little circlejerk to play reputation games about an even smaller circlejerk that's egging you on. Don't worry about bullshit in the thread.
There's no "official" server or group, and there's nothing of value in trying to be "official," or have acknowledgement. 4chan's always been about decentralization and going where you go.
Focus on keeping this discord from being nuked by discord admins, then focus on keeping everyone that's here relatively happy. Events. Genuine moderation when necessary. Everything else? Not our problem
Don't let 'em live in your head, you know?
Dal29004-Jul-21 05:15 AM
The usefulness of a main cord for events and announcements as well as organization is something we voted on way back when.
Perrine04-Jul-21 05:15 AM
Yeah, and this one has it. There's essentially zero chance in the future of that being a problem or under threat, either.
Dal29004-Jul-21 05:16 AM
I don't care much beyond people showing colors I thought weren't there, I don't like people demonstrating they will run the thread through the mud and abuse it.
Perrine04-Jul-21 05:17 AM
Not liking how people are acting? Seeing them now in a dark and shitty light? That's well within your rights.
But I don't think you should let that become the primary focus of the Super Secret Mod Channel for the main discord.
Dal29004-Jul-21 05:18 AM
We kinda talk about stuff, kinda the way the cookie crumbles, you are right though, we should try and keep discussion around mod related stuff
Black Lily04-Jul-21 05:20 AM
I hate reddit
Perrine04-Jul-21 05:20 AM
Unless it actually becomes a real, actual problem? Just do your best to put out the OP you feel should be there, without jumping the gun. Don't let it take over your actions. The best response is casual correction and general apathy.
4chan ought to know that letting calls of "u mad lol" get you mad is bad and dumb.
Dal29004-Jul-21 05:21 AM
I think it's more some of us we're friends with some of these guys, and they are pulling out the full stops to mess with the thread and all that
If it was 4chan entirely you at least get stabbed by an anon
Black Lily04-Jul-21 05:21 AM
Perrine is still right though
Dal29004-Jul-21 05:24 AM
Years of history adds a lot of complexity to matters, and yee I know
Aye, and cheers
June04-Jul-21 05:26 AM
I dont give a single fuck about ryder discord, or the drama
you shouldn't full stop
Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.
Futanari04-Jul-21 05:26 AM
i love you
June04-Jul-21 05:26 AM
I came here to do a job and did it (and will continue to)
I stand by anything said in here
it could be public for all I care
Dal29004-Jul-21 05:27 AM
Yee this isn't the first time I have had my words used
June04-Jul-21 05:27 AM
inner circles (which this is one, make no mistake) are the cancer that people latch onto as the source of all problems
full skitzo
Dal29004-Jul-21 05:27 AM
I have had literal coolsville sucks moments many times haha
Futanari04-Jul-21 05:28 AM
i dont give 2 fucks
:)
June
inner circles (which this is one, make no mistake) are the cancer that people latch onto as the source of all problems
Perrine04-Jul-21 05:28 AM
Dal290
I have had literal coolsville sucks moments many times haha
June04-Jul-21 05:28 AM
I'm not sure what you mean
Perrine04-Jul-21 05:28 AM
Never forget that this channel is quite literally an inner circle, secret club, mod cabal
Black Lily04-Jul-21 05:28 AM
Of course
As it should be
June04-Jul-21 05:28 AM
yah, if its needed is up to the group as a whole, I dont care either way. nor is that something I was trying to bring up
Pineapples04-Jul-21 05:28 AM
Yeah, I generally try not to use this place as a hidden channel to talk shit about people.
June04-Jul-21 05:29 AM
nothing pissed me off more about the last discord than not being able to see the fucking autism going on in the mod channel
June
I'm not sure what you mean
Dal29004-Jul-21 05:29 AM
Words I have said taken out of context, important info that changes the whole meaning of the convo clipped out
June04-Jul-21 05:29 AM
oh yeah how they took snippits from the hidden channel, gotcha
or dms
Futanari04-Jul-21 05:29 AM
bruh
Dal29004-Jul-21 05:30 AM
Like the Scooby-Doo movie where she clips him saying "you are trying to get me to say coolsville sucks"
Classic meme
Pineapples04-Jul-21 05:30 AM
As for Ryder's discord, I don't pay much attention to it and don't care. I do think it's pretty shit of them to go messing up the thread or trying to trick people into joining because they want their server to be the main one. It should just be left as an alternative option for people who want a server that runs differently.
Dal290
Like the Scooby-Doo movie where she clips him saying "you are trying to get me to say coolsville sucks"
June04-Jul-21 05:30 AM
oooooo yeah I forgot about that
Pineapples
As for Ryder's discord, I don't pay much attention to it and don't care. I do think it's pretty shit of them to go messing up the thread or trying to trick people into joining because they want their server to be the main one. It should just be left as an alternative option for people who want a server that runs differently.
June04-Jul-21 05:30 AM
agreed
I didnt think it was the main one (I only cared for activity) and only wanted 1 server
Pineapples
As for Ryder's discord, I don't pay much attention to it and don't care. I do think it's pretty shit of them to go messing up the thread or trying to trick people into joining because they want their server to be the main one. It should just be left as an alternative option for people who want a server that runs differently.
Futanari04-Jul-21 05:30 AM
i agree with this and it pisses me off how ryder is trying so hard making it the main vrg discord
June04-Jul-21 05:31 AM
so this one seemed right and I left his
June
nothing pissed me off more about the last discord than not being able to see the fucking autism going on in the mod channel
Pineapples04-Jul-21 05:31 AM
Do you mean you didn't like that the mods could talk about things in secret?
June04-Jul-21 05:31 AM
yes
100%
I couldn't see that the mods were all fighting back yurus dumb decisions and what not etc etc
Perrine04-Jul-21 05:31 AM
If you're gonna talk shit, you should probably do it outside the mod channel, just saiyan
Futanari04-Jul-21 05:31 AM
#retard-coliseum
my home
Black Lily04-Jul-21 05:31 AM
Problem is that if this channel can be seen by everyone then we just move to dms
June04-Jul-21 05:31 AM
i dont
I only go to dms when its legit personal
Black Lily04-Jul-21 05:32 AM
Most people will(edited)
June04-Jul-21 05:32 AM
well thats fucking stupid
Black Lily04-Jul-21 05:32 AM
Ye
Pineapples04-Jul-21 05:32 AM
Most stuff I don't think was exactly kept secret. People couldn't see what we talked about, but we didn't say one thing in here and then go claim something to the contrary elsewhere.
June04-Jul-21 05:32 AM
oh I know you guys didn't
Dal29004-Jul-21 05:32 AM
I think this solution works best, include as many people as possible lol
June04-Jul-21 05:32 AM
but theres a stronger context when you can just read it yourself
Perrine04-Jul-21 05:32 AM
Anyway good night, don't become cringe
Futanari04-Jul-21 05:33 AM
night night
June04-Jul-21 05:33 AM
gn my man
Pineapples
Most stuff I don't think was exactly kept secret. People couldn't see what we talked about, but we didn't say one thing in here and then go claim something to the contrary elsewhere.
Dal29004-Jul-21 05:33 AM
Remember my boxing matches over the tiger subject
Pineapples04-Jul-21 05:34 AM
It's helpful sometimes to be able to discuss things in private before taking any action. Like if a problematic shitposter sees us talking about them, they might go low profile to avoid any repercussions. Or with Tiger recently, if he saw discussion on unbanning him in a month or two, he'd be able to latch onto that and wait it out.
Dal29004-Jul-21 05:34 AM
Pineapples
It's helpful sometimes to be able to discuss things in private before taking any action. Like if a problematic shitposter sees us talking about them, they might go low profile to avoid any repercussions. Or with Tiger recently, if he saw discussion on unbanning him in a month or two, he'd be able to latch onto that and wait it out.
Dal29004-Jul-21 05:35 AM
You missed the part where yuru flat out told him rip
Futanari04-Jul-21 05:35 AM
god that fucker we kicked posted a bunch of piss shit, i deleted it and got into a fit with me
Futanari
god that fucker we kicked posted a bunch of piss shit, i deleted it and got into a fit with me
June04-Jul-21 05:35 AM
oh bote?
Futanari04-Jul-21 05:35 AM
no
June04-Jul-21 05:35 AM
gotem
Pineapples04-Jul-21 05:35 AM
Yeah, Yuru definitely messed up there. From what I remember, it was being discussed but a final decision had been difficult. Unless he told him after he decided on his own that he was just going to unban him?
Futanari04-Jul-21 05:36 AM
john placeholder
Rasmus04-Jul-21 05:36 AM
Yuru tried his best
Black Lily04-Jul-21 05:36 AM
Wrong window
Dal29004-Jul-21 05:36 AM
The halo cord had to brunt that man for a full month because of that
1
Pineapples04-Jul-21 05:36 AM
I was wondering why you switched accounts out of nowhere.
Rasmus
Yuru tried his best
Dal29004-Jul-21 05:36 AM
SILENCE SEX MAN
Black Lily04-Jul-21 05:37 AM
I tabed to give hidden's alt admin
June04-Jul-21 05:37 AM
ah
using chrome for the alts?
gotta multibox discord
Black Lily04-Jul-21 05:37 AM
Firefox for rasmus
June04-Jul-21 05:37 AM
worlds best mmo
Black Lily04-Jul-21 05:38 AM
I use edge for my other alt
Dal29004-Jul-21 05:41 AM
Lily using his lovanse edge for Rasmus, what has this world come to....
Distoibed04-Jul-21 05:41 AM
As a certified schizo, all my alts are in my mind
Pineapples04-Jul-21 05:44 AM
Also, in regards to arguments with Yuru not being publicly visible, I've always been open about disagreements I've had on things if the topic comes up. I know there were times ages ago when people have asked for someone to be dealt with but I've just had to say that Yuru's rules mean I can't do anything.
Black Lily04-Jul-21 05:48 AM
I've always let ZipZoop see mod chat
And usually told people that we're talking about if they asked me
Futanari04-Jul-21 05:49 AM
i dont like hiding stuff from people
Pineapples04-Jul-21 05:50 AM
Yeah, at worst I might just leave out some details about things, but usually I'm completely open about everything. If I see people talking about an issue we've been discussing, I'll let them know that we're trying to work something out.
June04-Jul-21 05:50 AM
you have to know to ask in the first place is what I worry about
Pineapples04-Jul-21 05:51 AM
I think it's good that a lot more people can read this stuff now. Less likely that other people will form their own narrative about what's going on and spread that everywhere. It was easy for that to happen before since there wasn't always a mod around to explain anything.
I think pretty much everything we usually talk about here is either about an issue most people know about or just discussing possible changes to channels and such.
Black Lily04-Jul-21 05:53 AM
And sometimes about some guy being a shitter
Pineapples
I think it's good that a lot more people can read this stuff now. Less likely that other people will form their own narrative about what's going on and spread that everywhere. It was easy for that to happen before since there wasn't always a mod around to explain anything.
June04-Jul-21 05:53 AM
for sure
Dal29004-Jul-21 05:53 AM
I reflect my views everywhere I post about them lol
June04-Jul-21 05:53 AM
if half the server is jannies then there isnt a problem
Dal29004-Jul-21 05:53 AM
"dal did you say fuck X"
Futanari04-Jul-21 05:55 AM
fuck you dal
Dal29004-Jul-21 05:55 AM
Dot you know that I both love and dislike you
❤️
Black Lily04-Jul-21 05:56 AM
Dot is friend
Dal29004-Jul-21 05:57 AM
Deport illegal mods and or jannies
Dal290
"dal did you say fuck X"
Distoibed04-Jul-21 05:57 AM
just say it so affirmly that people don't even need to question it anymore
Distoibed
just say it so affirmly that people don't even need to question it anymore
Dal29004-Jul-21 05:58 AM
People just know when I have a problem with something half the time, I never understand the "putting you on the spot" crap
Yes if I am angry about puppies that day, and I said it, I don't like FUCKING PUPPIES AHHH
Perrine
I mean tbh everything that's going on in here, the concern and all that, is kinda what they want to have happen. The more people talk, build up some sense of opposition, and start treating things as serious business, the more the discord becomes exactly the sort of thing that people have been making fun of for ages.
Brainy04-Jul-21 06:50 AM
I feel like this is exactly why I got DMs earlier about Ryder too. People see there is a disagreement and it's easy with how both sides are behaving to feed into it and egg it on, or twist it into personal attacks against people it's not.
Futanari04-Jul-21 11:35 AM
fuickyopuallover your asll
smoooch
Futanari04-Jul-21 09:35 PM
Oof i was drunk last night sorry
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Perrine05-Jul-21 12:21 AM
Is this weird sperging in #general just a weird zoomer way of posting
I can't tell anymore
🔇05-Jul-21 12:32 AM
People being dumb and lonely.
Futanari05-Jul-21 12:35 AM
I like kink shaming people
I should do that now
If you fucking dont want people to know what you're into
Have some standards and fucking shut up and keep it private
🔇05-Jul-21 12:40 AM
My fetish is to be comfy
1
Futanari05-Jul-21 12:43 AM
Ill keep that in mind
Perrine
Is this weird sperging in #general just a weird zoomer way of posting
June05-Jul-21 01:04 AM
its boredom sperging yeah
Futanari05-Jul-21 02:10 AM
We should make the bot automatically give the role if the person comes back to remove it
🔇05-Jul-21 02:11 AM
Yeah, I’ll ask onion if he can add that.
Black Lily05-Jul-21 02:53 AM
Is Jays alright
Krial05-Jul-21 02:54 AM
I msg him
No ans tho
Says he’s not ok
🔇05-Jul-21 02:56 AM
He’s probably upset with irl stuff tbh, he was drinking and stuff.
Krial05-Jul-21 03:08 AM
He ok.
Dont b& or anything
just upset.
🔇05-Jul-21 03:09 AM
Wasn’t going to, just needed to put him somewhere to relax for a bit.
Futanari05-Jul-21 03:20 AM
wonder what happened
🔇05-Jul-21 03:25 AM
Family oriented holiday
Krial05-Jul-21 03:35 AM
ok he good now.
Just usual growing up shit.
Shit we've all done and felt plenty of times im sure.
Perrine05-Jul-21 03:44 AM
Is he a college kid or something?
He was flipping out about real dumb things
Don't actually answer that, I don't really care about personal lives
Just
I'm confused by people who behave that way
Dal29005-Jul-21 03:49 AM
Do not question irrationality, it simply be
Stress/Emotions are a hell of a drug
🔇05-Jul-21 04:02 AM
^
yeah dont ask questions
Perrine05-Jul-21 04:03 AM
I guess i don't generally see the outlet being this particular brand of crazy, even among /k/ommandos
Well, hope he gets better.
🔇05-Jul-21 04:04 AM
vrg is like a weird non soc but also totally soc group.
Perrine05-Jul-21 04:04 AM
Like /soc/?
🔇05-Jul-21 04:05 AM
old soc*
not the constant "heres tiddies and dick" part of soc
Perrine
I'm confused by people who behave that way
Krial05-Jul-21 04:10 AM
Just young. It happens.
People have to grow.
🔇
not the constant "heres tiddies and dick" part of soc
Futanari05-Jul-21 04:20 AM
its more about heres my meshed cock and tits
🔇05-Jul-21 04:20 AM
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Futanari05-Jul-21 04:21 AM
nut then sad
Black Lily05-Jul-21 05:42 AM
What was with all the timeouts
Dal29005-Jul-21 05:44 AM
I assume it was some kind of meme or test
Distoibed05-Jul-21 05:45 AM
invalidum also demodded dot
dejannie'd'
but dot was being drunk
and timing people out for pinging him
Black Lily05-Jul-21 05:47 AM
@/u/GemManBad
/u/GemManBad05-Jul-21 05:47 AM
Yeah i got a couple DM's from people about dot changing roles
Checked audit log and he was going crazy so i just removed jannie from him till he calms down
Ie, whenever i wake up
Krial05-Jul-21 05:55 AM
He was undoing em I think
was nsfw chat memeing
Black Lily05-Jul-21 05:58 AM
People need to stop drinking
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<305-Jul-21 05:59 AM
or at least be responsible while drunk
Black Lily05-Jul-21 06:00 AM
I dream of sober meetups
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<305-Jul-21 06:00 AM
super late na is usually mostly sober because all of the drunks are passed out
🔇05-Jul-21 06:16 AM
Yeah he was putting people in timeout for like 3 minutes.
Mumu from NYC05-Jul-21 06:30 AM
darn americans
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3
super late na is usually mostly sober because all of the drunks are passed out
Krial05-Jul-21 06:35 AM
>finally getting drunk at 4am
Black Lily05-Jul-21 06:43 AM
@Krial happy birthday
Mumu from NYC05-Jul-21 06:45 AM
i forget how buckwild some of you americans can get on the 4th lmao
Black Lily
@Krial happy birthday
Krial05-Jul-21 06:49 AM
im oldddddddd
Mumu from NYC
i forget how buckwild some of you americans can get on the 4th lmao
Black Lily05-Jul-21 06:51 AM
America is the greatest country
Distoibed05-Jul-21 06:51 AM
happy b-day krial
Pineapples05-Jul-21 08:05 AM
Oh, guy who just joined is also in the workshop server, guess he's probably one of us already. Let's see what he's been saying over there...
Pineapples
Oh, guy who just joined is also in the workshop server, guess he's probably one of us already. Let's see what he's been saying over there...
Distoibed05-Jul-21 08:06 AM
dal lets in everybody
and his discord gets posted on soc/r9k
Black Lily05-Jul-21 08:07 AM
He joined the dead discord so I sent him the invite to this one
I believe he plays mahjong
Pineapples05-Jul-21 08:08 AM
Fair enough.
Eric05-Jul-21 04:31 PM
@Distoibed@Mumu from NYC this man such a rando
theres no way
dudes been typing for like 3 billion years
Distoibed05-Jul-21 04:31 PM
maybe he's just shy
Krial05-Jul-21 04:32 PM
He has mutual friends
Mumu from NYC05-Jul-21 04:32 PM
iirc psyanic spoonfed him last time cause hes one of his friends
Krial05-Jul-21 04:33 PM
He’s also in invalidum discord
Lemme check his posts there
Might not be a big deal
Been in there since feb
Eric05-Jul-21 04:33 PM
his story is stupid
no randos!!!!!!!!!!!!
Krial05-Jul-21 04:34 PM
He seems fine imo. Just test him in server
Ezpz.
Distoibed05-Jul-21 04:35 PM
because we actually do that rn
Eric05-Jul-21 04:35 PM
seems like a long time rando
Krial05-Jul-21 04:36 PM
Psyanic is active atm.....
Hmm. Could make em screenshot their convos or no entry.
Lmao
And give them 1 min to do it
Hahahaha
Eric05-Jul-21 04:37 PM
thats gay
randos always out themselves
Krial05-Jul-21 04:37 PM
Fair
Black Lily05-Jul-21 04:38 PM
I know Yuto they were spoonfed by yawnsu and psyanic last year
Krial05-Jul-21 04:39 PM
Randumb
Eric05-Jul-21 04:39 PM
also
>i browse int
Krial05-Jul-21 04:41 PM
Thay meme is
First on google
When you google 4chan int meme
Lol
That apu shit
🔇05-Jul-21 04:44 PM
@./a.out jannies are unable to use @ExecutiveJackbot btw
Eric05-Jul-21 04:44 PM
people do know him but i think i kinda already outted him for being a rando
It’s too bad jelly makes his avatar look like a retarded potato
June05-Jul-21 05:01 PM
I havent seen him in forever
Black Lily05-Jul-21 05:01 PM
He's a boothcat now
June05-Jul-21 05:01 PM
prob blocked
Black Lily
He's a boothcat now
June05-Jul-21 05:01 PM
nice
Black Lily05-Jul-21 05:02 PM
Too dumb to make a new vrc account all he did was change his name
Dal29005-Jul-21 05:02 PM
Hes been really hitting the alchopoo and letting the thread know it the last two threads
Distoibed05-Jul-21 05:03 PM
Dal29005-Jul-21 05:06 PM
Not to mention how loose a few parts of /vrg/ were for a while, we just had a lot of leaks and people openly know about /vrg/ everywhere
Black Lily05-Jul-21 05:07 PM
As long as they stay over there
Eric05-Jul-21 05:07 PM
i should just asked him what is the thread talking about now
and it would of been easier
Dal29005-Jul-21 05:07 PM
He can google that
Eric05-Jul-21 05:07 PM
true
Dal29005-Jul-21 05:07 PM
Just wait for somebody who knows about the boards they mentioned to hit them up
Eric05-Jul-21 05:07 PM
but now we have good reason to ban him if he turns out to be a rando if that happens
i literally did
just from a quick scroll on int, it literally looks like incel bitching and not porn posting(edited)
Black Lily05-Jul-21 05:09 PM
I found Silent at a /vrg/ meetup Thursday night, apparently she got there through Redflag
Distoibed05-Jul-21 05:09 PM
you mean the shader guy?
he's been here for some time
Black Lily05-Jul-21 05:09 PM
I've known Silent for four years
Distoibed05-Jul-21 05:09 PM
ah
Mumu from NYC05-Jul-21 05:11 PM
this is a hot take
i wish people would at least make a effort to spoonfeed better
because as it stands right now it's so fucking awful
you clown yourself so hard
Black Lily05-Jul-21 05:13 PM
I wish they wouldn't do it at all
Dal29005-Jul-21 05:13 PM
Yee I agree, we keep letting in more and we will end up at the same choked up point
Mumu from NYC05-Jul-21 05:13 PM
well yeah
none at all is best but at least make a better effort
if i spoonfed someone there is 0 way you'd be able to tell
a whole ass movie script and flowcharts
Black Lily05-Jul-21 05:14 PM
I'd just point them to /vg/ and let them figure the rest out for themselves
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<305-Jul-21 05:15 PM
i dont think any people that dont browse image boards should be let in. if people want to hang with their friends from other communities than they should hang out with them there. this not /vrg/ and friends its /vrg/
Black Lily
I found Silent at a /vrg/ meetup Thursday night, apparently she got there through Redflag
🔇05-Jul-21 05:15 PM
ReploidSham*
They have a discord and are always chatting in it.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3
i dont think any people that dont browse image boards should be let in. if people want to hang with their friends from other communities than they should hang out with them there. this not /vrg/ and friends its /vrg/
June05-Jul-21 05:16 PM
I'm in this camp as well
last server was constant bitching about the 300+ lurkers
are we going to prevent that or nah
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<305-Jul-21 05:17 PM
I have plenty of friends that are not vrg but i hang out with them in my server or other servers
i dont need to bring them here
June05-Jul-21 05:17 PM
but with one exception, that this poor dumb guy who triggered this is the exception
Black Lily05-Jul-21 05:17 PM
I think we should auto kick anyone that hasn't posted in at least three months
June05-Jul-21 05:18 PM
I can easily do that
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<305-Jul-21 05:18 PM
1 month
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3
i dont think any people that dont browse image boards should be let in. if people want to hang with their friends from other communities than they should hang out with them there. this not /vrg/ and friends its /vrg/
./a.out05-Jul-21 05:18 PM
Agreed. Especially considering the fact a high volume of these randos are here to coom, i'd just drop em the vrd discord link and punt them out
June05-Jul-21 05:18 PM
thats true
just do that in welcome(edited)
June
are we going to prevent that or nah
🔇05-Jul-21 05:18 PM
Yes, kinda. I’ve talked to you before about the pruning I wanna do.
June05-Jul-21 05:18 PM
if your just here to fuck, go to ->
<link>
./a.out
Agreed. Especially considering the fact a high volume of these randos are here to coom, i'd just drop em the vrd discord link and punt them out
Mumu from NYC05-Jul-21 05:18 PM
🔇
Yes, kinda. I’ve talked to you before about the pruning I wanna do.
Dal29005-Jul-21 05:18 PM
Unfortunately purging inactive users isn't going to purge the active users who are here to just use a discord
Black Lily
I think we should auto kick anyone that hasn't posted in at least three months
🔇05-Jul-21 05:18 PM
Basically this.
🔇
Yes, kinda. I’ve talked to you before about the pruning I wanna do.
June05-Jul-21 05:18 PM
'talked'
gotem
Mumu from NYC05-Jul-21 05:19 PM
EXPOSED
DOWN WITH ASYLUM
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<305-Jul-21 05:19 PM
communities need to stick to their roots. and not include people just to be nice if people are interested enough they will browse the thread
June
'talked'
🔇05-Jul-21 05:19 PM
We could have a phone call…
Mumu from NYC05-Jul-21 05:19 PM
June
if your just here to fuck, go to ->
<link>
./a.out05-Jul-21 05:19 PM
Exactly. They got their own place, no need to leak people into here to do their business
Mumu from NYC
DOWN WITH ASYLUM
🔇05-Jul-21 05:19 PM
I’m not even the key holder anymore tho?
🔇
We could have a phone call…
June05-Jul-21 05:19 PM
lol yeah, but lets not derail
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<305-Jul-21 05:19 PM
if everyone is let in it just becomes a discord loosely based on vrg
🔇
I’m not even the key holder anymore tho?
Dal29005-Jul-21 05:20 PM
THE CURRENT KEYHOLDER IS ORB DUMMY
Distoibed05-Jul-21 05:20 PM
"Ohyeah, you browse vrg? Name your favourite melty!"
🔇
I’m not even the key holder anymore tho?
Black Lily05-Jul-21 05:20 PM
Kinda still are your alt has admin I just have a shinny button
🔇05-Jul-21 05:20 PM
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Black Lily05-Jul-21 05:21 PM
We're all equal either way
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<305-Jul-21 05:21 PM
every board and thread has their own inside jokes people should be asked about them during vetting
🔇05-Jul-21 05:21 PM
But the key holder is important —t.rydercord
Mumu from NYC05-Jul-21 05:21 PM
i've been saying we should post-9/11 tsa/borderguard for a while now
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🔇05-Jul-21 05:21 PM
Yeah, no rush enjoy vacation.
🔇
Yeah, no rush enjoy vacation.
./a.out05-Jul-21 05:21 PM
Thank ya thank ya
June05-Jul-21 05:22 PM
give me key holder then
./a.out05-Jul-21 05:22 PM
Ask them to triforce in welcome
June05-Jul-21 05:22 PM
I will never give a single fuck about any of your drama ever
Distoibed05-Jul-21 05:22 PM
unless it involves you
June05-Jul-21 05:23 PM
nope not even then
June
I will never give a single fuck about any of your drama ever
🔇05-Jul-21 05:23 PM
June05-Jul-21 05:23 PM
I hesitate on even responding to bait directly at me
I'm not fucking serious, vrg is cancer
Distoibed05-Jul-21 05:23 PM
I wouldn't be able to do it
Dal29005-Jul-21 05:24 PM
Just adsorb the adversity and grow stronger
Distoibed05-Jul-21 05:24 PM
I kinda get off to making it worse
Dal29005-Jul-21 05:24 PM
People think I made the 290 jokes now and it ruined it for whoever was doing it
its okay distrobed, I'll make sure to sugar coat everything so your panties dont get twisted
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Distoibed05-Jul-21 05:28 PM
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<305-Jul-21 05:28 PM
no dont bulli me.... please!!!!!!!!
i hate that
June05-Jul-21 05:29 PM
is there a place to request emoji?
feedback?
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<305-Jul-21 05:29 PM
just upload it
Dal29005-Jul-21 05:29 PM
People usually upload an emoji and @ the mods asking to have it added
Distoibed05-Jul-21 05:29 PM
last time my mom told me "no"
I only cried for the next 2 days
🔇05-Jul-21 05:29 PM
Jannies can upload emojis. And we have the slots for them rn anyways.
June05-Jul-21 05:29 PM
alright sweet, let me finish this one
Black Lily05-Jul-21 05:30 PM
And I ignore them if I think it's a shit emoji like the flooshed one
🔇05-Jul-21 05:30 PM
Flooshed is used a lot.
Black Lily05-Jul-21 05:30 PM
It's shit
🔇05-Jul-21 05:30 PM
It is.
Black Lily05-Jul-21 05:30 PM
June05-Jul-21 05:40 PM
🔇05-Jul-21 05:42 PM
@Krial
Mumu from NYC05-Jul-21 05:43 PM
holy shit
Black Lily05-Jul-21 05:43 PM
Mona posted that in Ryders discord
Mumu from NYC05-Jul-21 05:44 PM
sex offender methkiss
Black Lily05-Jul-21 05:44 PM
He should have posted it here
Mumu from NYC
sex offender methkiss
Black Lily05-Jul-21 05:44 PM
What
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<305-Jul-21 05:45 PM
mona isn't even from 4chan though so that is interesting that that is coming from him
not saying i dont agree
Mumu from NYC05-Jul-21 05:45 PM
that's true
Black Lily
Mona posted that in Ryders discord
🔇05-Jul-21 05:46 PM
Yeah I know. I know krial isn’t in there, so I figured I would show it.
Black Lily05-Jul-21 05:47 PM
It's a very depressing place
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<305-Jul-21 05:47 PM
is ryders discord still dead lol
Black Lily05-Jul-21 05:47 PM
Around 20 posts today
Since midnight
🔇05-Jul-21 05:48 PM
Most active channel is the bot-spam channel.
Black Lily05-Jul-21 05:48 PM
That doesn't count
Krial05-Jul-21 05:48 PM
Mona made it to meme on me lmao
He’s not srs
It made me laugh lol he tagged me when he posted it here
June05-Jul-21 05:52 PM
Black Lily05-Jul-21 05:53 PM
Too smoll
June05-Jul-21 05:54 PM
crop and reframe then
I got about 2 seconds into masking them in photoshop and almost quit
I need to go back to work, so gl
Mumu from NYC05-Jul-21 05:55 PM
yeah i need to stop chatting lmao
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i was supposed to finish something like 2 hours ago
Black Lily
I think we should auto kick anyone that hasn't posted in at least three months
Brainy05-Jul-21 06:07 PM
Just playing devil's advocate here, but since this is a fresh start it seems unnecessary to be pruning users. There are also people who aren't active on this Discord, but are active in VRChat, and vice-versa. This is a young community with a lot of people in college who may need to prioritize classes over going on VRC for any stretch of time.
🔇05-Jul-21 06:08 PM
Nah, if that’s the case they can just rejoin and vet again.
Brainy05-Jul-21 06:10 PM
I feel like you're more likely to lose "old guard" returning members that way, because it's introducing too much friction to remaining in the community.
I was talking to someone last night who had to quit VRC for personal reasons, but still hangs around in this community because they have friends here.
If the goal of instituting this type of policy is to preserve the culture of the community, I think you'll be disappointed, because you could just end up purging "old guard" users while the gates remain open for new ones who will always outnumber the old, while not receiving the benefit of meeting or interacting with them.
It's the sort of thing you'd need more than pruning to solve IMO.
June05-Jul-21 06:15 PM
community churn is a hard thing to manage
Mumu from NYC05-Jul-21 06:15 PM
NO JUNE GET BACK TO WORK
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<305-Jul-21 06:15 PM
no reason to keep inactive "old guard" members around for nostalgia. if someone is inactive they can come come back when they want to be active again
Brainy05-Jul-21 06:15 PM
But how do we define that? Discord activity or VRC activity?
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<305-Jul-21 06:16 PM
well for the discord discord activity
if they have posted in x amount of time
Mumu from NYC
NO JUNE GET BACK TO WORK
June05-Jul-21 06:16 PM
sorry I was sending the news post draft to no2 and figured I'd check in lol
oh yeah, can you add lavenders announcement channel back in #announcements
?
Brainy05-Jul-21 06:16 PM
Also at some point you're introducing so much friction that people won't come back. I'm not going to say 3 month pruning will do that, but it is a very aggressive number.
Black Lily05-Jul-21 06:17 PM
How long would you recommend @Brainy
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<305-Jul-21 06:17 PM
id say one month
it take ten mins to comeback into the server
Black Lily05-Jul-21 06:18 PM
Because in the last discord we had 300+ lurkers that did absolutely nothing
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<305-Jul-21 06:18 PM
your history is still there
./a.out05-Jul-21 06:19 PM
This place has many sources of friction. If someone would leave due to pruning and we dont prune, odds are some other reason will arrive eventually that will make them leave anyway(edited)
Black Lily05-Jul-21 06:19 PM
Plenty of old guard have left because of how gay this place is
./a.out05-Jul-21 06:19 PM
I like 3 months
Black Lily
Plenty of old guard have left because of how gay this place is
June05-Jul-21 06:20 PM
yah
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes05-Jul-21 06:20 PM
Remove horny
Actively remove horny
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Black Lily
How long would you recommend @Brainy
Brainy05-Jul-21 06:21 PM
It's hard to say because the communities I've managed (paid, voluntary, or founded) were much larger, but typically every six months was when pruning occurred for users that had not been active in various capacities for 1-3 years, depending on the activity.(edited)
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes05-Jul-21 06:21 PM
The moment lily says I can actively remove horny from all channels except nsfw its all over
horny will be dead
Brainy05-Jul-21 06:21 PM
If going by "absolutely dead", I'd say once a year, two times a year (six months) would probably be healthier for this community, if you absolutely must prune.
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes
Remove horny
Mumu from NYC05-Jul-21 06:21 PM
i'm doing my best
why do you think i have that server
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes05-Jul-21 06:22 PM
./a.out05-Jul-21 06:22 PM
This place aint old enough to do 1-2 years
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes05-Jul-21 06:22 PM
you are not doing your best
June05-Jul-21 06:22 PM
what server
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes05-Jul-21 06:22 PM
Mumu from NYC05-Jul-21 06:22 PM
my feet server
June05-Jul-21 06:22 PM
lol gross
Brainy05-Jul-21 06:22 PM
But even just "dead" lurker users can actually help towards community growth by just being numbers people see when they click a Discord invite link. Many Discord communities keep lurkers around for that reason. I'm guessing you guys don't care about this though, as you have no problems attracting new users.(edited)
Mumu from NYC05-Jul-21 06:22 PM
Black Lily05-Jul-21 06:22 PM
@Mumu from NYC who was the first to join it
Brainy
But even just "dead" lurker users can actually help towards community growth by just being numbers people see when they click a Discord invite link. Many Discord communities keep lurkers around for that reason. I'm guessing you guys don't care about this though, as you have no problems attracting new users. (edited)
Black Lily05-Jul-21 06:23 PM
Personally I don't care about growth. I wouldn't care if everyone left the discord tomorrow.
./a.out05-Jul-21 06:24 PM
Yea, this aint the kinda place where growth is a priority
Brainy05-Jul-21 06:24 PM
The growth from what I've seen isn't a problem here (yet), because the server does a well enough job promoting itself through the threads.
Black Lily
@Mumu from NYC who was the first to join it
Mumu from NYC05-Jul-21 06:25 PM
mona technically but it was asylum
Black Lily05-Jul-21 06:25 PM
@🔇 disgusting
Brainy05-Jul-21 06:27 PM
If the goal is to keep out people who don't understand the culture of this place you could consider changes to gating. But I can't really think of the best way around that off the top of my head that would fit your needs there.(edited)
Something like, "just get them to come to the meetup X times" could just encourage what you guys don't want, which is people inviting their friends.(edited)
Brainy
But even just "dead" lurker users can actually help towards community growth by just being numbers people see when they click a Discord invite link. Many Discord communities keep lurkers around for that reason. I'm guessing you guys don't care about this though, as you have no problems attracting new users. (edited)
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<305-Jul-21 06:28 PM
wanting numbers for numbers sake is retarded
no need to artificially inflate a communities size
Brainy05-Jul-21 06:29 PM
It does work. But yeah, I agree it's probably not necessary for this community, because you see a lot of growth just from the threads.
Black Lily
Plenty of old guard have left because of how gay this place is
Dal29005-Jul-21 06:29 PM
In my eyes this discord started failing with large parts of the thread's users started avoiding it because there were too many people who weren't from our thread/ect
Brainy05-Jul-21 06:30 PM
My concern is that too much friction too regularly could lead to a huge drop over time as people just get fed up having to keep up with it.
Dal29005-Jul-21 06:30 PM
People complain about feeling helpless to do anything to fix it, its kind of what drives me to punch things as hard as I can
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<305-Jul-21 06:30 PM
if you cant handle the bantz then get out
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Brainy
My concern is that too much friction too regularly could lead to a huge drop over time as people just get fed up having to keep up with it.
Dal29005-Jul-21 06:31 PM
We have had lots of ups and downs, it'll work out in the end
Black Lily05-Jul-21 06:31 PM
Oh yeah, dot wants his jannie role back
Ye or ne
Dal29005-Jul-21 06:31 PM
Believe it or not people survived k3rn, and yuru, good number fell off, but in the end a lot of us are still here
Brainy05-Jul-21 06:31 PM
But the complaint seems to be that people who were valued are not here now. That's why I say, if your goal is to retain "quality" users and gate out those who are low value, you could end up doing just as much harm to both if you're too aggressive with it.
Dal29005-Jul-21 06:31 PM
It is kind of astounding how long some of us have remained in one community
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<305-Jul-21 06:32 PM
when you try to please everyone you please no one(edited)
Brainy05-Jul-21 06:32 PM
I don't really know the answer on how to solve it. I'm just saying an aggressive approach of, "let's just kick everyone who hasn't typed anything in 3 months" may not have the result you want. It could even have the opposite result you want.(edited)
Dal29005-Jul-21 06:33 PM
Yeah I guess 3 months is an eh purge, but it's fine if people have an investment they will come back
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<305-Jul-21 06:33 PM
oh no we offended someone who doesnt exist or care about the community anymore
Dal29005-Jul-21 06:33 PM
Maybe 6 months?
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<305-Jul-21 06:34 PM
i think 3 is too long it takes 10 mins to rejoin the server
a kick is not a ban
Dal29005-Jul-21 06:34 PM
I think he is thinking of the bullshit of Ryder's cord honestly
Brainy05-Jul-21 06:34 PM
Also if people aren't talking here in the first place, they're not really causing any harm. I don't get the impression those are the types of users irritating you guys right now.
Dal29005-Jul-21 06:34 PM
It could be used as another excuse/play but honestly it doesn't matter
Brainy05-Jul-21 06:35 PM
Which is another reason why I say maybe a more creative approach to gating would be better, if the growth and the nature of growth is where the problem is.
Black Lily05-Jul-21 06:35 PM
They don't irritate us we just don't care about lurkers
Posters matter lurkers don't
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<305-Jul-21 06:35 PM
I want an active community of participants
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3
oh no we offended someone who doesnt exist or care about the community anymore
Brainy05-Jul-21 06:36 PM
Not really about offending anyone. More about retaining quality users who actually have been beneficial to the character and culture of this community, rather than making it a hassle for them to stay/return to being active.
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes05-Jul-21 06:36 PM
all of the cool kids that hang out in VC left
Dal29005-Jul-21 06:37 PM
I am sorry Dank, I tried to help support the main cord after the purge but then the nuke happened
Then ryder fucked it all up and made more drama
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes05-Jul-21 06:37 PM
everyone hangs out in workshop cord
Brainy
Not really about offending anyone. More about retaining quality users who actually have been beneficial to the character and culture of this community, rather than making it a hassle for them to stay/return to being active.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<305-Jul-21 06:37 PM
if they are inactive they don't add anything or do anything beneficial
Dal29005-Jul-21 06:37 PM
People are starting to avoid things because they are sick of the shit going on here or there
Brainy05-Jul-21 06:38 PM
I only bring it up since the nature of the problem is the complaint that you have new users who aren't as desirable as the old users. I'm just saying that very aggressive pruning could do more harm to the latter (old users) than the former (new users). So it should be something you guys give some serious thought towards is all.(edited)
Distoibed05-Jul-21 06:41 PM
I just cant stand most of the voices in the dalcord, so i barely vc in there
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<305-Jul-21 06:41 PM
i workshop by myself usually so i dont use it that much
Brainy05-Jul-21 06:42 PM
Another potential concern would be, getting accused of running this like a "clique", purging desirable users purely on an aggressive number that's based on Discord, not VRC activity. This could be interpreted any number of ways (negatively) and result in quality users electing to leave (easy to do with "splitcords"). Then we have an even more divided community. So there's that to consider as well.(edited)
Dal29005-Jul-21 06:42 PM
I wanted the place to be a bunker/transitional place and that stupid shit with ryder made people settle down completely
Brainy05-Jul-21 06:42 PM
It might be something you'd want to be transparent about or even consider having people vote on in that case.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<305-Jul-21 06:43 PM
you saw how the election turned out'
voting only cause more drama
Brainy05-Jul-21 06:44 PM
I am VERY much against election shit.
It just creates so much needless drama.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3
you saw how the election turned out'
Black Lily05-Jul-21 06:44 PM
Well that was because of lurkers and tons of people that hate the place still being in the discord
Brainy05-Jul-21 06:45 PM
I only bring it up as a consideration. But I feel like if we're going to be kicking users on an aggressive timetable based solely on Discord activity, it could look bad unless we're transparent about why and how that is happening.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<305-Jul-21 06:46 PM
whyd you kick x
he hasnt posted in three months
and can come back when we wants to be active
understandable have a nice day
Brainy05-Jul-21 06:48 PM
Ultimately though what I'm saying is that, if the goal is to have more "high-value" users than "low-value", then pruning based solely on numbers in a given timeframe with no consideration of value is probably not the ideal way to achieve this goal. I'd consider what creative solutions there might be to improve gating before I turned to pruning.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<305-Jul-21 06:49 PM
im gonna be done talking after this about this topic because its not going anywhere but if you are not active you are adding no value
Brainy05-Jul-21 06:49 PM
Any way we could get statistics on this over time?
IE, compare who is active at the meetups, versus active on the Discord?
Black Lily05-Jul-21 06:50 PM
Discord and meetups are separate(edited)
./a.out05-Jul-21 06:50 PM
If you used vrc activity as the decider, then your argument could be applied to those who play other vr games besides vrc. There are other vr games that people play besides vrc, and getting logs of everyone's activity in different games would be a huuuge hassle, therefore it makes more sense to just use discord activity
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<305-Jul-21 06:51 PM
not being in discord does not affect you going to meetups btw
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Brainy05-Jul-21 06:51 PM
At risk of sounding like I'm going in circles, the risk I'm emphasizing here is users who the community does value, who may take breaks or be active in only one capacity, being pruned and giving up on coming back or being active, because now it's like a job to them just to keep their "seat".
Along with other users interpreting why this pruning is happening in a malicious way.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3
not being in discord does not affect you going to meetups btw
Black Lily05-Jul-21 06:52 PM
This is exactly why I never unbanned Tiger
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<305-Jul-21 06:52 PM
again no one will say anything is malicious if you have the reson they havent been active in three months
./a.out
If you used vrc activity as the decider, then your argument could be applied to those who play other vr games besides vrc. There are other vr games that people play besides vrc, and getting logs of everyone's activity in different games would be a huuuge hassle, therefore it makes more sense to just use discord activity
Brainy05-Jul-21 06:53 PM
No, because people sometimes share VRC invites and get together on here through invites.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<305-Jul-21 06:53 PM
use the thread
Brainy05-Jul-21 06:54 PM
At the end of the day we can only predict and prepare.
I'd still suggest if you do it, that you be transparent to people about it, so there's less room for them to accuse you later of being a clique.
Brainy
No, because people sometimes share VRC invites and get together on here through invites.
./a.out05-Jul-21 06:55 PM
They also share invites to pavlov, assetto corsa, etc here. Vrc is just the biggest one
Transparency is key, i'll agree with that
Dal29005-Jul-21 06:55 PM
I just hate how I was bugged by that fugger one more time because I wouldn't let him into the shopcord to play a multiplayer game with people, the people included, he didn't check if they wanted to play with him.
./a.out05-Jul-21 06:57 PM
I made a server the other day for a project and he made it in. Banned within 37 seconds
./a.out
They also share invites to pavlov, assetto corsa, etc here. Vrc is just the biggest one
Brainy05-Jul-21 06:58 PM
I mean it's Virtual Reality General, not VRChat General. At the end of the day people value the community for different reasons. My point is just that there could be people who are active in various capacities on here, even lurking, who are still valued by the community and we risk purging them under an aggressive time window that does not consider user value, all in the interest of improving user value. Which is a difficult metric to measure here since the complaint is not about user engagement (activity), but the nature of their engagement, (IE, people who don't know 4Chan). But I'm just repeating myself and beating a dead horse now. I trust you guys got my point already and are considering it.(edited)
@Futanari dont give a reason for people to bitch at me
Brainy
I mean it's Virtual Reality General, not VRChat General. At the end of the day people value the community for different reasons. My point is just that there could be people who are active in various capacities on here, even lurking, who are still valued by the community and we risk purging them under an aggressive time window that does not consider user value, all in the interest of improving user value. Which is a difficult metric to measure here since the complaint is not about user engagement (activity), but the nature of their engagement, (IE, people who don't know 4Chan). But I'm just repeating myself and beating a dead horse now. I trust you guys got my point already and are considering it. (edited)
./a.out05-Jul-21 07:00 PM
I agree with that. Thats why im saying vrchat isnt a good metric to measure activity, since theres many other vr activities. Therefore, discord is the common ground here, and provides a simple common metric to measure activity for the issue at hand(edited)
Futanari05-Jul-21 07:01 PM
@/u/GemManBad instand of them bitching to me they come to you
Funny
/u/GemManBad05-Jul-21 07:01 PM
hilarious
Brainy05-Jul-21 07:02 PM
I asked a former co-worker about this generally (just in the nature of "Discord community", nothing about this specific server). Their opinion was 3 months does seem like a fair enough amount of time. Still seems a bit aggressive to me, but they think it seems "just within reason." @Black Lily(edited)
Black Lily05-Jul-21 07:02 PM
Invalidum is very popular
Futanari05-Jul-21 07:02 PM
Im intimidating
Black Lily05-Jul-21 07:02 PM
You're Mexican
/u/GemManBad05-Jul-21 07:03 PM
no idea why people come to me
Futanari05-Jul-21 07:03 PM
Yes
/u/GemManBad
no idea why people come to me
Black Lily05-Jul-21 07:05 PM
I know why
/u/GemManBad05-Jul-21 07:05 PM
enlighten me
Black Lily05-Jul-21 07:06 PM
You're sociable and friendly to everyone
It's not that hard to figure out
You're also a softie
/u/GemManBad05-Jul-21 07:06 PM
there are more responsible mods to go to
Black Lily05-Jul-21 07:07 PM
You're also well known while I'm a literal who
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<305-Jul-21 07:07 PM
invalidum is friendly and a bit of pushover
Black Lily05-Jul-21 07:07 PM
Dal is dal
Hidden is mute
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<305-Jul-21 07:07 PM
and he like making people happy
so naturally people will go to him
/u/GemManBad05-Jul-21 07:08 PM
fuck off lily, just a lot of people, hard to meet them all
Futanari05-Jul-21 07:08 PM
Its not hard to know everyone
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<305-Jul-21 07:08 PM
who are you?
Dal29005-Jul-21 07:08 PM
I can't read
/u/GemManBad05-Jul-21 07:08 PM
well you can meet everyone, knowing everyone is a challenge
🔇05-Jul-21 07:08 PM
Who am I?
Black Lily05-Jul-21 07:08 PM
Mute
Brainy05-Jul-21 07:09 PM
Pineapples is a big softie too
/u/GemManBad05-Jul-21 07:09 PM
knowing someone, you need a level of exposure to them
Brainy05-Jul-21 07:09 PM
Actually I have not met a single person who didn't like Pineapples
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<305-Jul-21 07:09 PM
i want to go to dave and busters so dot can wash my dishes
Brainy
Actually I have not met a single person who didn't like Pineapples
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<305-Jul-21 07:09 PM
moub
🔇05-Jul-21 07:09 PM
@Brainy the thing with pruning the discord is that we don’t care about lurkers in here. There’s 0 reason to keep them, and they can return at any time.
Black Lily05-Jul-21 07:09 PM
Pineapples is a cool guy but he's too close to being Australian
/u/GemManBad05-Jul-21 07:09 PM
moub also dislikes me
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3
i want to go to dave and busters so dot can wash my dishes
Futanari05-Jul-21 07:09 PM
Your dish means nothing to me
/u/GemManBad05-Jul-21 07:09 PM
anyone with a male avatar really
Black Lily05-Jul-21 07:09 PM
Didn't moub block you
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<305-Jul-21 07:10 PM
moub is fun to mess with
/u/GemManBad05-Jul-21 07:10 PM
many times
mostly unblocked as of late
🔇
@Brainy the thing with pruning the discord is that we don’t care about lurkers in here. There’s 0 reason to keep them, and they can return at any time.
Brainy05-Jul-21 07:10 PM
Yeah my concern wasn't lurkers so much as a person we all care about being pruned when they're going through a rough time IRL for 3 months and then giving up on coming back here. But it seems like "3 months" is considered a pretty reasonable time window here. I feel it could be too aggressive, but others have said it's reasonable.(edited)
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<305-Jul-21 07:10 PM
moub is extremely gullible
like a 5yr old
Futanari05-Jul-21 07:10 PM
The purge was a good thing
🔇05-Jul-21 07:11 PM
Moub is fine. He’s just a horny drunk.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<305-Jul-21 07:11 PM
hes harmless
Mumu from NYC
i wish people would at least make a effort to spoonfeed better
Perrine05-Jul-21 07:11 PM
When I sold guns, this was my attitude on straw purchases. It's so easy to get away with one and you idiots aren't even putting in the effort?
Black Lily05-Jul-21 07:11 PM
I'll block him if he tries to suck my dick
🔇05-Jul-21 07:11 PM
can we just shove moub and dot in a cage and see how it goes?
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<305-Jul-21 07:12 PM
throw kite and lincoln in there too
Futanari05-Jul-21 07:12 PM
You know i will just turn into a cube right?
Black Lily05-Jul-21 07:12 PM
kITE...
Lincoln...
🔇05-Jul-21 07:12 PM
That’s fine, he will still ask you to fuck
Futanari05-Jul-21 07:12 PM
No
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<305-Jul-21 07:12 PM
that would be a great battle
Futanari05-Jul-21 07:12 PM
I refuse to do anything with anyone that asks me
Black Lily05-Jul-21 07:12 PM
It'll be like that webm(edited)
🔇05-Jul-21 07:12 PM
Oh, so you like them to be more forceful
Futanari05-Jul-21 07:13 PM
And i rather not do anything to anyone in vrg
That just feels wrong
/u/GemManBad05-Jul-21 07:13 PM
weirdly enough he has been flirting with fbc lately, super funny to watch
Black Lily05-Jul-21 07:13 PM
Ew
🔇05-Jul-21 07:13 PM
Yeah, it’s funny.
Black Lily05-Jul-21 07:13 PM
Leave the horse alone
🔇05-Jul-21 07:13 PM
He wants the horse cock.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<305-Jul-21 07:13 PM
he flirts with me everytime he sees me
Futanari05-Jul-21 07:14 PM
Just
Block him
Its fucking easy
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<305-Jul-21 07:14 PM
i usually just ignore it or mess with him
why would i block him its too much fun to mess with him
Futanari05-Jul-21 07:16 PM
I blocked him cuz hes just not worth my time
June05-Jul-21 07:19 PM
moup pisses me off when he gets in my face hitting on me
its fucking cringe
but I block him for a bit and move on with my life
he doesnt understand no
anyways what was the thing @Perrine said the other day, about not making this a inner circle
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<305-Jul-21 07:21 PM
tell him his parents love him and are proud of everything he is doing with his life and he fucks right off
I mean he’s not wrong when he says every industry is at a crawl now
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes06-Jul-21 04:05 PM
Yeah that shit isn't loading on my phone
What's the tldr
Krial06-Jul-21 04:15 PM
Every industry is experiencing slowdowns as far as product supply atm. So they’re pushing back early bird delivery to august, and full delivery to October
I bought whatever pack was $630. I think 7 trackers?
Krial06-Jul-21 04:27 PM
I bought two I think
Mumu from NYC06-Jul-21 04:28 PM
i legit don't want them anymore
Brainy06-Jul-21 04:28 PM
Why? Did you get the new Vive ones?
I want these because they're smaller and more lightweight, so they're better for my dog.(edited)
Krial06-Jul-21 04:29 PM
@Mumu from NYC ill buy 2 more off u lolol
Mumu from NYC06-Jul-21 04:36 PM
boutta call my credit card company
and i have 2.0s with track+ anyway
Krial06-Jul-21 05:04 PM
i desire elbow trackers
Perrine06-Jul-21 05:34 PM
I dunno if you can charge back an investment
Delays are an inherent and explicitly identified risk
Brainy06-Jul-21 05:54 PM
I kind of expected delays with Covid going on and the videocard shortage among other things.
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes06-Jul-21 07:02 PM
Alt account detected
Futanari06-Jul-21 07:04 PM
Jej
Brainy06-Jul-21 07:15 PM
How do you get that information to display on an account?
🔇06-Jul-21 07:16 PM
Better discord
Perrine06-Jul-21 07:19 PM
do people use ripcord
Futanari06-Jul-21 07:19 PM
Yes
Perrine06-Jul-21 07:19 PM
you?
June06-Jul-21 07:19 PM
A few do
I used to
Perrine06-Jul-21 07:19 PM
how is it?
June06-Jul-21 07:19 PM
Pretty good
Added this emote earlier
And sticker
Dunno if you wanted us to say somewhere
Maybe actions?
June
Pretty good
Perrine06-Jul-21 07:21 PM
Does it have proper blocking?
June06-Jul-21 07:21 PM
Can't remember
Think so
Had a lot of features
Perrine06-Jul-21 07:22 PM
hmm
You hear about discord going anal on people using it or?
🔇06-Jul-21 07:23 PM
Don’t need to say about emojis added.
Perrine06-Jul-21 07:23 PM
🔇06-Jul-21 07:23 PM
We can announce when the emojis are full, and then vote them off.
Futanari06-Jul-21 07:24 PM
Im voting you off
Black Lily06-Jul-21 07:26 PM
Futanari06-Jul-21 07:27 PM
Cum
Brainy06-Jul-21 07:36 PM
Yeah I'm worried to use any fork, I wouldn't want to risk a ban and losing my server(s).
Futanari06-Jul-21 07:49 PM
I dont wanna lose my 1k friends
:)
Brainy06-Jul-21 07:56 PM
When forks do a better job of providing moderation tools than the actual platform natively.
June06-Jul-21 07:56 PM
Yep
June06-Jul-21 09:30 PM
@Futanari not a talk channel
Futanari06-Jul-21 09:30 PM
Fortnite
June06-Jul-21 09:31 PM
:fornitedance:
Black Lily06-Jul-21 11:18 PM
Spheri reminded me
When are we going to rotate jannies
🔇06-Jul-21 11:19 PM
whenever you feel like? just un-jannie and jannie whoever
Futanari06-Jul-21 11:24 PM
Oof
So sad
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<307-Jul-21 01:14 PM
Is there a way to give carl his own 30 second slow mode
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes07-Jul-21 01:20 PM
Doesn't the time out role make them limited to melty or something?
Could just time out for 5 min or something idk
Futanari07-Jul-21 01:30 PM
Why did we let them in again lmao
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<307-Jul-21 01:31 PM
idk
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes07-Jul-21 01:48 PM
Should I delete shit like vomiting and just purely nasty shit from general(edited)
Futanari07-Jul-21 01:50 PM
yes
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes07-Jul-21 01:53 PM
Well I would have deleted your fat fuck nico avocado
🔇07-Jul-21 01:55 PM
If you find it gross and it’s in #general and not spoilered, yes.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3
Is there a way to give carl his own 30 second slow mode
Perrine07-Jul-21 01:56 PM
Add a bot function That applies a 30 second timeout everytime he posts
🔇07-Jul-21 01:56 PM
Interesting, but that would probably piss discord off.
Mumu from NYC07-Jul-21 04:04 PM
guess it's image clean up day
Dal29007-Jul-21 04:11 PM
We could just make a channel called Carl's Blog
Distoibed07-Jul-21 04:13 PM
Don't think that would work
unless people would like to enter that chat to talk with him
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes07-Jul-21 04:16 PM
Shidd I can't actions say put Carl in drunk tank for an hour
Damn drunk tank also doesn't do anything yet
Krial07-Jul-21 04:17 PM
remove vrg(edited)
then it does
Dal29007-Jul-21 04:18 PM
I guess we could start using it for "you are talking too much and obviously drunk just go into vrchat you fucker"
Mumu from NYC07-Jul-21 04:23 PM
there's always @deleted-role
Dal29007-Jul-21 04:26 PM
@Meeps Would it be a bad idea to make a capeshit role
Meeps07-Jul-21 04:26 PM
loki ends soon anyways, not a bad deal. movies works
Dal29007-Jul-21 04:28 PM
Oddly enough, I know people have a continued interest in marvel stuff, was mostly for the meme, but yeah I guess building up redundant roles is silly
Krial07-Jul-21 04:53 PM
Mudae role for pinging people to come roll.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<307-Jul-21 04:58 PM
I'm putting Carl in timeout till tomorrow for constantly being himself
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3
I'm putting Carl in timeout till tomorrow for constantly being himself
Krial07-Jul-21 05:20 PM
Futanari
Why did we let them in again lmao
Black Lily07-Jul-21 05:53 PM
So he doesn't spam the thread with his shit(edited)
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes
Should I delete shit like vomiting and just purely nasty shit from general (edited)
Brainy07-Jul-21 06:47 PM
Anything with bodily fluids visibly excreting from a human (cum, piss, shit, puke, menstrual blood, gore) is likely to be something Discord moderates against in the majority of cases.
That being from a real human. Something like cartoony Bart Simpson peeing with back turned is not going to cross that.
Reminds me of this one nasty gif of some fat dude shitting and sitting on it that I used to have to see all the time.
Oh yeah I forgot to mention this, but anything with bestiality in it (real video) is illegal and should be deleted on sight.
Server could get nuked if that's ever posted on here and we don't remove it (like CSAM).(edited)
Black Lily07-Jul-21 07:45 PM
@#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3 you bullied him out
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<307-Jul-21 07:57 PM
o well
he was talking about wanting to do mass killings
Black Lily07-Jul-21 07:59 PM
Poor dumb carl
Krial07-Jul-21 08:01 PM
Carl was nice to me
Black Lily07-Jul-21 08:03 PM
Yes, but he's kinda crazy(edited)
/u/GemManBad07-Jul-21 08:04 PM
Fuck carl he fills my server up with shit memes
Black Lily07-Jul-21 08:04 PM
You could kick him from there
Mumu from NYC07-Jul-21 08:04 PM
you just gotta give him a chance
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<307-Jul-21 08:12 PM
people have been more than patient with him
he should have been timed out a long time ago
Black Lily07-Jul-21 08:14 PM
It was for the good of the thread
Black Lily07-Jul-21 08:24 PM
Also we need to make posts in actions for timeouts so I'm going to give jannies access to it if that's alright with you @🔇
🔇07-Jul-21 08:24 PM
yeah, thats fine. dont think we need to draw attention to them imo
Black Lily07-Jul-21 08:27 PM
I think it's important to explain why someone is timed out in #actions
🔇07-Jul-21 08:28 PM
to who? the person being timed out will know exactly why, and can always vent about it in #retard-coliseum
Black Lily07-Jul-21 08:30 PM
To everyone else in the server I guess
🔇07-Jul-21 08:31 PM
i never understood why we would do that?
Black Lily07-Jul-21 08:32 PM
I always did it before because I thought we should log when someone was timed out, for how long, and for what reason
🔇07-Jul-21 08:33 PM
that was more of so the person offended could see their term tho?
once the bot is working, it'll handle that tho
Black Lily07-Jul-21 08:33 PM
That's true
Brainy07-Jul-21 08:34 PM
Not sure if I can timeout or not, but if I ever do, I'll post in there if you want. I personally am not a fan of drawing attention to punitive actions or publicizing them though.
Black Lily07-Jul-21 08:34 PM
We'll switch it back after onion is home then
🔇07-Jul-21 08:34 PM
also the amount of people who wanted their name in the log, and did dumb shit on purpose was stupid
1
Black Lily07-Jul-21 08:34 PM
We'll get that either way
🔇07-Jul-21 08:34 PM
jannies can timeout, yeah
less people are likely to crawl #jannieactions tho
for seeing who was timed out
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<307-Jul-21 08:37 PM
i would have posted it in actions but didnt have access
Black Lily07-Jul-21 08:37 PM
So you intended #actions to only be for kicks/bans pretty much
🔇07-Jul-21 08:37 PM
yeah that was my intentions
Black Lily07-Jul-21 08:39 PM
Alright, that'll be fine then
Krial07-Jul-21 09:15 PM
Big shit makes the most sense.
Futanari07-Jul-21 09:49 PM
Oh
He gone
Jej
Black Lily08-Jul-21 07:21 AM
Me angry
Distoibed08-Jul-21 07:21 AM
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
it's immature
and ect ect
vrg
Dal29008-Jul-21 07:22 AM
I forced their hand and this is the reaction, I'm fine with it
Distoibed08-Jul-21 07:25 AM
I could crack my knuckles and start posting, but for once in my life, I'll be the mature one and don't
🔇08-Jul-21 07:26 AM
Makes me wonder who made that op, because they removed the yellowpages discord.
But made sure to have the Ryder discord in there.
Distoibed08-Jul-21 07:27 AM
tisk tisk
🔇08-Jul-21 07:27 AM
I don’t care about the yellow pages discord, and won’t join it tbh
Distoibed08-Jul-21 07:28 AM
nah, but it's a dumb move since it's now clear that the ryder discord shill hates the agenda discord
which could help the ones that care about, narrow it down
if only we had detective anon...
🔇08-Jul-21 07:28 AM
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Dal29008-Jul-21 07:31 AM
I talked to Ryder about it, and when he didn't want to accept it or just blow me off, I banned him from workshopcord
🔇08-Jul-21 07:31 AM
It’s okay, Carl has been released back into the wild.
That doesn’t solve anything, but also ryder doesn’t workshop so whatever.
Dal29008-Jul-21 07:31 AM
Haha
It got a reaction as you can see
Black Lily08-Jul-21 07:32 AM
I wish they'd fuck off
They've been making the threads shit for years always trying to keep some drama in it
I thought they said they were going to merge servers once Black Lily was reinstated?
Brainy
I thought they said they were going to merge servers once Black Lily was reinstated?
Distoibed08-Jul-21 11:52 AM
>believing the ramblings of a retard who growls at strangers
Brainy08-Jul-21 12:01 PM
Futanari08-Jul-21 12:15 PM
fuck ryder
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<308-Jul-21 12:18 PM
its fine this will go on for another few weeks, and soon enough everyone will hate them for messing with the op. discord drama should be kept out of the thread. they can keep with their pathetic attempts and continue to make themselves look bad.
Distoibed08-Jul-21 12:20 PM
I never liked the thread being used to "solve" discord related drama
Futanari08-Jul-21 12:20 PM
i never liked ryder being leader in everything
Distoibed08-Jul-21 12:20 PM
never solved anything, just gave idiots the possibility to ruin eachother without seeing eachother's names
IMO from what I got from him
never give him full control, but give him enough to have a definite say
ofc rn he can fuck off cus he's being petty
"ohno, it's not him, it's his shitposters"
and ryder isn't telling them to stop it
Perrine08-Jul-21 02:08 PM
Guys
Please don't continue letting this live rent free in your heads
Either write a bot that autoposts your favored discord if it's missing in the OP or ignore the literally who discord
🔇08-Jul-21 02:11 PM
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I just like bitching. (:
Distoibed08-Jul-21 02:54 PM
same
I wouldn't even have noticed it
well..
I would
since they made an OP post in the middle
leaking dal's DMs
but that's just a good example to never trust ryder
🔇08-Jul-21 03:20 PM
Seeing as they leaked/posted dms can ryder really claim they aren’t actively supporting shitposting?
Distoibed08-Jul-21 03:21 PM
as long as he posts here
he loses
Black Lily08-Jul-21 03:24 PM
How do you guys feel about completely removing the discord links from the thread
None in the op or the rentry
🔇08-Jul-21 03:26 PM
I would be fine with that tbh. Add the calendar tho.
Distoibed08-Jul-21 03:28 PM
If you're able to get ryder to agree on that
i'd have 0 problems with it
Black Lily08-Jul-21 03:30 PM
I talked to Ryder a bit in his discord and that's something he wants
And something I've wanted
Distoibed08-Jul-21 03:30 PM
not gonna cause drama
but it sounds like he wants it because then he stalemated a fight he obviously would have lost
🔇08-Jul-21 03:30 PM
Although, if Ryder agrees to it, and it does happen, he’s just admitting to being the shit poster.
Black Lily08-Jul-21 03:31 PM
He was asleep when that op was made
It's not him
Distoibed08-Jul-21 03:31 PM
still
he supports it by leaking the DMs
🔇08-Jul-21 03:31 PM
Actively supporting the shitposter is just as bad as shitposting yourself.
Distoibed08-Jul-21 03:32 PM
@Dal290 watcha think about this
Black Lily08-Jul-21 03:32 PM
Dal should be asleep
As should I
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<308-Jul-21 03:32 PM
if its not in the rentry will the only way to join the discord be spoonfeeding?
🔇08-Jul-21 03:32 PM
@Dal290 wake the fuck up, it’s noon. (^:
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3
if its not in the rentry will the only way to join the discord be spoonfeeding?
🔇08-Jul-21 03:33 PM
Someone will post the link in the thread, it just won’t be in the op.
Black Lily08-Jul-21 03:34 PM
We'll have more posts asking for the discord invite but less shitposting about discord
Ideally
Well ideally we'd have neither
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<308-Jul-21 03:35 PM
with it being in the rentry it keeps the discord posting out of thread
Distoibed08-Jul-21 03:35 PM
Ryder wants it out of the rentry
because if we still have it in the rentry
we have "won"
🔇08-Jul-21 03:36 PM
Most people are too dumb to even go into the rentry.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<308-Jul-21 03:36 PM
just put both in
Distoibed08-Jul-21 03:36 PM
ideally if neither
🔇08-Jul-21 03:36 PM
I’ll just add ryders cord to #splinter-discords (^:
Black Lily08-Jul-21 03:36 PM
Having none of them in the rentry is good in my opinion
🔇08-Jul-21 03:39 PM
No discord is better.
Shitpost discord is worse.
Black Lily08-Jul-21 03:39 PM
If only ws didn't have 300+ people that want a discord
🔇08-Jul-21 03:39 PM
Remove steam group too.
Black Lily08-Jul-21 03:39 PM
You can get into the steam group through Google so it doesn't really need to be there
🔇08-Jul-21 03:40 PM
Ye
Black Lily08-Jul-21 03:40 PM
It's also not used
Distoibed08-Jul-21 03:40 PM
it kinda is
for the group chat
some hosted games
🔇08-Jul-21 03:40 PM
It’s not required for anything.
Distoibed08-Jul-21 03:40 PM
are done in the VC of the groupchat
Black Lily08-Jul-21 03:40 PM
It's how alex found us
Distoibed08-Jul-21 03:40 PM
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
you can delete it then
ask dal
🔇08-Jul-21 03:40 PM
Those are conveniences.
Don’t need to delete it, just don’t need to actively advertise it.
Black Lily08-Jul-21 03:41 PM
Discord vc is better than steam though
Unless they fixed it to sound less like Skype
🔇08-Jul-21 03:42 PM
It’s still garbage.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<308-Jul-21 03:42 PM
i mean steam group is pointless but theres no harm in keeping it imo
🔇08-Jul-21 03:42 PM
Yellow pages discord is most pointless imo.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<308-Jul-21 03:43 PM
tru
Distoibed08-Jul-21 03:43 PM
it's how most discords are created
out of spite
and feeling of power
🔇08-Jul-21 03:43 PM
Need to talk to someone, and don’t know their discord? Fucking ask them for it. Stop being too beta to ask for 4 numbers.
Black Lily08-Jul-21 03:44 PM
I made my inner circle discord because the other inner circle discord was ran by a schizo
Distoibed08-Jul-21 03:44 PM
I have like none :-)
maybe 1 that gets used every once in a month for vc
🔇08-Jul-21 03:44 PM
I have inner circle discords.
They contain me and a few bots.
It’s for testing stuff
Distoibed08-Jul-21 03:44 PM
I mean
for myself
ofc
🔇08-Jul-21 03:44 PM
And taking notes.
Black Lily08-Jul-21 03:44 PM
Mine are at least seperate from vrg
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<308-Jul-21 03:44 PM
ive had my inner circle one for around 4 years
Distoibed08-Jul-21 03:45 PM
I have stuff in my own private 1 man discord
🔇08-Jul-21 03:45 PM
Ye
Distoibed08-Jul-21 03:46 PM
I use this one as my main discord
kinda fills my need for social stuff
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<308-Jul-21 03:47 PM
i still think it should be kept in the rentry just because its going to be annoying if people are asking for in constantly and all of the shitposting that will come with it
you have people posting fake ones and a lot of people complaiong about it
Distoibed08-Jul-21 03:49 PM
I'd rather have people complaining about people shitposting fake discord links
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<308-Jul-21 03:49 PM
or it will lead to people just asking people they know in vrg for the link(edited)
Black Lily08-Jul-21 03:49 PM
People won't ask for it that much unless it's around the holidays
Distoibed08-Jul-21 03:49 PM
than people complaining that this is the official vrg discord
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<308-Jul-21 03:50 PM
and a slot of spoonfeeding
Black Lily08-Jul-21 03:50 PM
We'll have a lot of spoonfeeding though and might have to change the entry requirements to compensate
Distoibed08-Jul-21 03:51 PM
then we punish the feeders
"Isthere a dicord link?"
"Go ask in the thread"
"They give me false links"
"I'm not spoonfeeding ya"
We could allow people giving out the links
but they kinda need to admit they gave them the link
Black Lily08-Jul-21 03:51 PM
Ye
We'd have to implement a vouch system probably(edited)
Distoibed08-Jul-21 03:52 PM
so now it's a trust bond
we don't really need a vouch system like danks
we could have a small list of simpleconnections
1 guy having 20 vouches isn't bad as long as those 20 turn out to be decent
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<308-Jul-21 03:52 PM
either that or they have to come to the meetup and get a link
and have them vetted in vrc
Black Lily08-Jul-21 03:53 PM
Everyone has to get the link from Invalidum
Distoibed08-Jul-21 03:53 PM
so now it's kinda the feeder's responsibility to introduce goodboys
Black Lily08-Jul-21 03:53 PM
Or just make sure the people they invite actually browse 4chan
Or both of them get kicked
And somebody will have to vouch for them again
Dot's a good boy
Distoibed08-Jul-21 03:55 PM
juuuust an example
because he invited every bf of his
🔇08-Jul-21 03:55 PM
Everyone with a bf does that tho.
did lily invite zipzoop, or did zipzoop invite lily
Distoibed08-Jul-21 03:56 PM
or did they meet in vrg!?
Black Lily08-Jul-21 03:56 PM
Neither we didn't start dating until January 2nd 2019
🔇08-Jul-21 03:56 PM
I know. it was a joke
Distoibed08-Jul-21 03:57 PM
tfw
Perrine08-Jul-21 05:31 PM
Can't have DMs leaked if you don't dm
🔇
@Dal290 wake the fuck up, it’s noon. (^:
June08-Jul-21 06:36 PM
I've been busy working all damn day
what are you asking for
Distoibed
@Dal290 watcha think about this
June08-Jul-21 06:37 PM
think about what
Distoibed08-Jul-21 06:37 PM
Oh
Was pointed at dal
June08-Jul-21 06:37 PM
OH
you fuckers and your swapped names
Distoibed08-Jul-21 06:37 PM
Cus he's called june
June08-Jul-21 06:37 PM
STOP
Black Lily08-Jul-21 06:38 PM
How did that confuse you
You didn't get pinged
June08-Jul-21 06:38 PM
It didnt even register
I was just scrolling though chat getting caught up
Black Lily08-Jul-21 06:39 PM
You're getting old
June08-Jul-21 06:39 PM
its been a long day okay
/u/GemManBad08-Jul-21 06:39 PM
Made nsfwchat, holychat as a short term gag
June08-Jul-21 06:39 PM
lmao
Black Lily08-Jul-21 06:39 PM
I like Halo
June
its been a long day okay
/u/GemManBad08-Jul-21 06:39 PM
Weekend soon king, see you then
June08-Jul-21 06:40 PM
shopping tomorrow
first check fuckin finally
Distoibed08-Jul-21 06:41 PM
@/u/GemManBad do a switcheroo to "homochat"
June08-Jul-21 06:41 PM
I'm gonna buy the good peanut butter
instead of the dolar store crap
./a.out08-Jul-21 07:35 PM
Oh shiiiiit, my man's runnin with the deluxe crunchy pb
Brainy08-Jul-21 07:36 PM
How do you guys feel about completely removing the discord links from the thread
I talked to Ryder a bit in his discord and that's something he wants
He was asleep when that op was made
It's not him
Ryder's claimed since this started that they have no influence over their server being posted in the OP. If that's true then what does making this "agreement" with Ryder accomplish? If Ryder truly has no influence, then any "agreement" is pointless. I don't know why we're even entertaining this?
but it sounds like he wants it because then he stalemated a fight he obviously would have lost
Exactly.
This is by no means a criticism of you Black Lily (I've been very happy with how you and Hidden have run things), but we did shake up keyholding on the request of Ryder's group after being told the servers would merge and that has not happened.
I don't know why we keep bending over backwards to accommodate the demands of that server / group or Ryder specifically. I think we should just focus on improving / bettering this server and forget about whatever they are doing over there.
Krial08-Jul-21 07:53 PM
Literally ignore rydercord
3
Black Lily08-Jul-21 08:23 PM
But me angry
🔇08-Jul-21 08:24 PM
just wait until ryder is asleep and delete all the channels, or lock them all (^:
Black Lily08-Jul-21 08:27 PM
That's stupid though
Dal29008-Jul-21 08:31 PM
I just took it up with the person in question instead of bitching about it secondhand
Then the mofo leaks dms like a grimy son of a bitch to some shitposting mongs I literally warned him about
This aint just about the discords, its about enabling shitposters who want to ruin the thread all of the time and do shit like this
It should be ignored of course, that was the intention
Find it funny they are pulling out the full stops and doubling down this much, I talked with yuru and others about why I have an issue with this kind of crap and they prove exactly what I was talking about the same day
Its comedy gold
Krial08-Jul-21 09:05 PM
I think ignore schizo's, and swap out OP as best we can without acknowledging it in thread is best.
Eventually they will get bored and pick something else.
🔇
just wait until ryder is asleep and delete all the channels, or lock them all (^:
./a.out08-Jul-21 09:07 PM
Ryder kicked me off mod team once he realized i was a mod here lol
Krial08-Jul-21 09:07 PM
I hate in fighting.
It's stupid. Everyone's friends.
Black Lily08-Jul-21 09:09 PM
I don't know why he didn't demod me
Black Lily
I don't know why he didn't demod me
Futanari08-Jul-21 09:14 PM
He loves you
Black Lily
I don't know why he didn't demod me
Dal29008-Jul-21 09:40 PM
Like I said, you are their token right now
"lily is the legit old owner" ect, its stupidity
/u/GemManBad08-Jul-21 09:41 PM
He never modded me
And im gonna cry about it
Waaa
Waa waa
June08-Jul-21 09:46 PM
Just leave the discord
It's just that easy
/u/GemManBad08-Jul-21 09:47 PM
Done
June08-Jul-21 09:48 PM
My man
That's how they lose power
Not with a bang
With a empty room and the doors slamming shut
1
Futanari08-Jul-21 09:51 PM
haha
ryder discord go byeybe
Perrine08-Jul-21 09:59 PM
Seriously guys. The more you let their very existence bother you, the worse it'll be. Don't DM them. Don't bargain or barter or whatever the fuck.
Besides, saying that he was sleeping is just a jab at this discord, because they were bitching about Asylum "powergrabbing" while he was asleep.
Come on
This shit ain't serious business.
Futanari08-Jul-21 10:09 PM
fortnite
Brainy08-Jul-21 11:02 PM
I stopped responding to anyone DMing me about it lol
It's just that easy.
Black Lily08-Jul-21 11:06 PM
Who even dmed you
Dal290
"lily is the legit old owner" ect, its stupidity
Brainy08-Jul-21 11:06 PM
If it was even about that they would have merged here like they said they would. It's 100% posturing, just like Ryder saying they have no control over anything is posturing, just like us meeting Ryder's demands to stop doing X thing is capitulating. All we're doing is dignifying this drama with acknowledgement and perpetuating it senselessly.
I agree with June that just ignoring / walking away is best.(edited)
Dal29008-Jul-21 11:08 PM
Some of these same guys fuck with the thread way too much
I just want others to be aware of the kind of bullshit these guys pull or think is alright, so far, they are doing all of the work while I play fallout 76 and chill with friends lol
ToddBotBOT08-Jul-21 11:08 PM
Dal29008-Jul-21 11:09 PM
Some of the people who approached me about their thoughts have been important too, the right people need to stand up to people who shit where they eat
Like I said, it isn't about discord drama, its the long term shitposters who ruin our thread, and people are in denial about
Boiled down, this is just another subject for these shitters, ryder is friends with them along with others, they are too close to people who are comfortable ruining our thread daily (they have been for months/years), it needs to stop.(edited)
Krial08-Jul-21 11:36 PM
Rename nsfw only to gaybaby please
Wait can I do that
🔇08-Jul-21 11:37 PM
dont think so
Krial08-Jul-21 11:37 PM
I can
Futanari08-Jul-21 11:37 PM
it was nice being janny :(
Krial08-Jul-21 11:38 PM
Dot people would have voted no even had you done literally everything right
Or voted yes for removal whatever the lingo means
Distoibed08-Jul-21 11:41 PM
Wouldve been same story if it was me
Futanari08-Jul-21 11:44 PM
its just degens voting no on me :)(edited)
its ok bros
Brainy09-Jul-21 04:46 AM
Wait people are voting to remove you?
NM I saw voting. I voted for you~(edited)
Krial09-Jul-21 04:53 AM
Dudes a coomer if I had to bet dollars to dimes but wuteva.
dot who this dude
Futanari09-Jul-21 04:56 AM
who let him in?
Krial09-Jul-21 04:56 AM
us
Futanari09-Jul-21 04:56 AM
you guys are stupid
Krial09-Jul-21 04:56 AM
which is why im asking who he is lol
Futanari09-Jul-21 04:56 AM
hes a friend of mine
i didnt feed him at all
Distoibed09-Jul-21 04:57 AM
5 mins are up
so I guess I can clear everybody in #welcome that hasn't said anything?
Futanari09-Jul-21 04:57 AM
i didnt let him in cuz hes not 4chan at all
and you fucks just said
oh haha
ok bro
he knows only a few boards
let him in
:)
Krial09-Jul-21 04:57 AM
he doesnt browse u say
kk lemme get him to admit it rq
🔇09-Jul-21 04:58 AM
we have people that openly admit to not using the thread. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Distoibed09-Jul-21 04:58 AM
yep
or 4chan
Futanari09-Jul-21 04:58 AM
then why let them in?
🔇09-Jul-21 04:58 AM
And openly admit to disliking 4chan
Distoibed09-Jul-21 04:58 AM
:-)
Futanari09-Jul-21 04:58 AM
kick them
i dont care
🔇09-Jul-21 04:58 AM
Idk.
Distoibed09-Jul-21 04:58 AM
cus "oooh he's been a good boy, he hasn't done anything yet!"
literally what I said
Futanari09-Jul-21 04:58 AM
legit
grow some
kick them
Distoibed09-Jul-21 04:59 AM
kiu kick when?
Futanari09-Jul-21 04:59 AM
fucking now
🔇09-Jul-21 04:59 AM
I’ll put up a vote tomorrow and we can go from there.
Distoibed09-Jul-21 04:59 AM
a vote of "shall we go even harder on the gatekeeping"?
Futanari09-Jul-21 05:00 AM
ive been gatekeeping too hard on these fucks
🔇09-Jul-21 05:00 AM
No, a vote on “remove people who don’t use the thread”
Futanari09-Jul-21 05:00 AM
^
but in all cost
who can we fucking trust
half this server is full of people that dont browse?
so whats the fucking point?
🔇09-Jul-21 05:01 AM
We got 300+ people, and only maybe 100~ posters.
Krial09-Jul-21 05:01 AM
dot you havent even been gate keeping hard
like at all really
Futanari09-Jul-21 05:01 AM
do you want me to try harded?
Krial09-Jul-21 05:01 AM
no
i'm just saying like
dont feel like you're being stern or anything cuz you're really not
Futanari09-Jul-21 05:01 AM
oh wait i forgot im getting unjannied
Krial09-Jul-21 05:01 AM
i voted no
Futanari09-Jul-21 05:02 AM
yeah bros lets kick out dot out of jannie so nsfw-chat can stay
:)
so le funny bros
🔇09-Jul-21 05:02 AM
im only counting mod votes for jannie/unjannie
The rest is just “appease retards”
Futanari09-Jul-21 05:03 AM
its cringe
🔇09-Jul-21 05:03 AM
Yes, but where do you think this is?
90% of the active people are coomers.
Krial09-Jul-21 05:07 AM
Kk.
I'ma grill him rq.
Distoibed09-Jul-21 05:07 AM
Krial09-Jul-21 05:07 AM
I think he's full of shit personally.
Futanari09-Jul-21 05:07 AM
in general hes a cunt
🔇09-Jul-21 05:08 AM
I mean, he already admitted to not lurking the ffxivg threads by not knowing about the bench.
Brainy09-Jul-21 05:08 AM
How do you play XIV and not know the bench?
🔇09-Jul-21 05:08 AM
Idk man.
Krial09-Jul-21 05:09 AM
Dude this guy
he's full of shit.
Black Lily09-Jul-21 05:09 AM
How do people play xiv?
Krial09-Jul-21 05:09 AM
I asked for generals and he told me boards.
Black Lily
How do people play xiv?
🔇09-Jul-21 05:09 AM
With their dicks.
Krial09-Jul-21 05:09 AM
@Distoibed
kick plz.
He doesn't know what a general is.
Futanari09-Jul-21 05:09 AM
lmao
🔇09-Jul-21 05:10 AM
Kicked
Distoibed09-Jul-21 05:10 AM
dang
🔇09-Jul-21 05:10 AM
Lol
Distoibed09-Jul-21 05:10 AM
was about to type a funny message
🔇09-Jul-21 05:10 AM
You can post in actions if you want (:
Krial09-Jul-21 05:10 AM
Hell yeah.
Brainy09-Jul-21 05:11 AM
Goddammit lol
🔇09-Jul-21 05:12 AM
Poor Carl.
People give him too much shit.
Futanari09-Jul-21 05:12 AM
oh god the carl posting
Brainy09-Jul-21 05:12 AM
Yeah I actually like Carl lol
I'm sorry
🔇09-Jul-21 05:12 AM
The mod abuse forced him back to the thread.
Krial09-Jul-21 05:13 AM
I literally had no problem with Carl.
He was nothing but nice to me.
Brainy09-Jul-21 05:13 AM
Same I actually feel like he's part of VRG
Distoibed09-Jul-21 05:14 AM
dude is part of vrg
Black Lily09-Jul-21 05:14 AM
He was threatening to kill a lot of people though
🔇09-Jul-21 05:14 AM
Brainy09-Jul-21 05:14 AM
He does take it way too far sometimes yeah
Distoibed09-Jul-21 05:14 AM
like that has any weight to it
Krial09-Jul-21 05:14 AM
maybe temp ban? idk
tell him to fuckin cool out?
🔇09-Jul-21 05:14 AM
We didn’t ban him. He leaves if he can’t talk.
Distoibed09-Jul-21 05:14 AM
he's not gonna join back because not all of us agree to let him be
Black Lily09-Jul-21 05:15 AM
He was only in timeout
🔇09-Jul-21 05:15 AM
Then he posts in the thread.
Brainy09-Jul-21 05:15 AM
I'm used to just doing a search on him from 24 hours ago and removing anything that looks bad. I don't mind it either way.
Futanari09-Jul-21 05:16 AM
no bully carl
he didnt do nuffin
🔇09-Jul-21 05:16 AM
Carl is gone. ):
Brainy09-Jul-21 05:16 AM
Black Lily09-Jul-21 05:18 AM
I liked laughing at people trying to interact with Carl
Krial09-Jul-21 05:18 AM
i literally talked to him all the time
not one single schizo moment
Distoibed09-Jul-21 05:19 AM
I like his voice in vrc
Black Lily09-Jul-21 05:19 AM
Someone could dm him and explain why he was timed out and maybe invite him back in a weekish
🔇09-Jul-21 05:19 AM
If you can keep up with him and interject before he runs off with the convo on his own, he does well.
Krial09-Jul-21 05:19 AM
Kk, i'll hit him up
Distoibed09-Jul-21 05:19 AM
people just egg him on
Krial09-Jul-21 05:19 AM
and tell him come back in a week
Black Lily09-Jul-21 05:19 AM
I type slow so that's impossible for me
Distoibed
people just egg him on
🔇09-Jul-21 05:20 AM
He enjoys that
Distoibed09-Jul-21 05:20 AM
He does
but the people don't realize
🔇09-Jul-21 05:20 AM
It’s funny af imo
Distoibed09-Jul-21 05:20 AM
it's funny to see
🔇09-Jul-21 05:20 AM
“Nooo the Carl posting”
Futanari09-Jul-21 05:20 AM
anyone have the webm?
or video?
Krial09-Jul-21 05:20 AM
Maybe thats why I can talk to him lol
🔇09-Jul-21 05:20 AM
Of?
Krial09-Jul-21 05:20 AM
osrs typing skills
Futanari09-Jul-21 05:20 AM
carl
of something
Krial09-Jul-21 05:20 AM
I had a dude I was talking to on another discord say
🔇09-Jul-21 05:20 AM
Krial09-Jul-21 05:21 AM
"you type fast as fuck do you browse 4chan"
and i was so confused.
🔇09-Jul-21 05:21 AM
Hahaha lol
Krial09-Jul-21 05:21 AM
how do those match
🔇09-Jul-21 05:21 AM
You would be surprised.
Krial09-Jul-21 05:21 AM
also @Brainy thanks for reminding me that bananers has ignored my friend request for months
Brainy09-Jul-21 05:22 AM
Want me to mention it to them?
Krial09-Jul-21 05:22 AM
Its literally a meme
he wont add me on here or anywhere lol.
We talk all the time hahaha
Brainy09-Jul-21 05:22 AM
Oh what
Krial09-Jul-21 05:22 AM
I send him a FR every single time I see him and he instantly declines it.
Brainy09-Jul-21 05:22 AM
LOL
Krial09-Jul-21 05:22 AM
lol
🔇09-Jul-21 05:23 AM
Krial09-Jul-21 05:23 AM
we legit hang out in vrc a lot i'm pretty sure he even showed up to my bday thing lol
Distoibed09-Jul-21 05:23 AM
Heard that bannaners can be quite the drama "man"
🔇09-Jul-21 05:23 AM
That’s fine. Lol
Brainy09-Jul-21 05:23 AM
I've never heard any drama from them, always nice to me too
Futanari09-Jul-21 05:23 AM
he always has me muted and hidden
:)
and thats a good thing
Black Lily09-Jul-21 05:25 AM
I blocked him like a year ago
Futanari09-Jul-21 05:26 AM
god i wish i can block people in vrc again
Distoibed09-Jul-21 05:26 AM
?
why can't you
Krial09-Jul-21 05:26 AM
carl is returning.
just left for his vacation so he wouldnt spam the discord with drunkard shit.
🔇09-Jul-21 05:28 AM
Makes sense. Carl’s a good lad no matter how much shit people give him.
Brainy09-Jul-21 05:28 AM
All this shit talking of Carl and he's actually looking out for us
Krial09-Jul-21 05:29 AM
On god.
We could easily filter SO many people if they mention XIVG.
Lmfao.
Futanari09-Jul-21 05:31 AM
oh ok
but he sometimes need to chill
🔇09-Jul-21 05:33 AM
Yes, but if you tell him to chill, most the time he will
Krial09-Jul-21 05:34 AM
Oh asylum.
Why does gaybaby remove your emojis lol.
Can you figure that out tomorrow.
🔇09-Jul-21 05:34 AM
Uhh. Probably permissions.
Krial09-Jul-21 05:34 AM
I tried looking at the perms but I think I'm locked out of that section, and don't want to risk fucking it up.
Like I can see perms, but not all of them like yall can I think. It doesn't look like it looks on my server.
gaybaby, timeout, vrg drunk tank, all of those pretty much remove emotes.
jason wanted gaybaby but lost his emotes
🔇09-Jul-21 05:36 AM
Should be fixed?
Idk
Krial09-Jul-21 05:37 AM
Sec, Ill test,
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<309-Jul-21 06:10 AM
I really don't think carl should be let back in all he does is schizo post
🔇09-Jul-21 06:11 AM
Better here than the thread.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<309-Jul-21 06:12 AM
hes going to fuck with the thread anyway
🔇09-Jul-21 06:13 AM
He’s fine. Just block him if you can’t stand it.
Stannic09-Jul-21 10:05 AM
as much as i hate carl's guts and his tendencies to derail convos, he is part of the containment board so it's only fair
just block him and move on
now only if there was a way to force a fucking trip on him so it'll be easier to go through the thread also
Futanari09-Jul-21 10:08 AM
kenji 2
Stannic09-Jul-21 10:09 AM
alternate reality kenji but with vr
Perrine09-Jul-21 11:27 AM
1
June09-Jul-21 11:35 AM
Way too relatable
Futanari09-Jul-21 11:44 AM
i work
Krial09-Jul-21 05:47 PM
@Eric grill on generals
Imo
Sus
Black Lily09-Jul-21 05:50 PM
What's wrong with a guy playing fortnite with his nephew
Krial09-Jul-21 05:56 PM
Nothing.
Black Lily09-Jul-21 05:58 PM
Wrong, he should encourage them to play better games
Krial09-Jul-21 06:08 PM
Also wrong.
He should be glad they wish to spend time with him and play what they want.
Futanari09-Jul-21 06:54 PM
Ngl
Fortnite feels like the new cod
Cus i remember kids playing cod in my days xd
Black Lily09-Jul-21 07:01 PM
And all other schooters are better for it
Futanari09-Jul-21 08:03 PM
Check #funposting
/u/GemManBad09-Jul-21 08:03 PM
?
Futanari09-Jul-21 08:05 PM
Or someshit
What lamby posted
Idk
Im pretty tired
Black Lily09-Jul-21 08:09 PM
Angle is some xiv trannie that get's up set about people having similar avatars to them
Futanari09-Jul-21 08:10 PM
Why are they even here?
Black Lily09-Jul-21 08:10 PM
Idk
Futanari09-Jul-21 08:10 PM
If they're trans and play shitty final fantasy game?
Smh
Brainy09-Jul-21 08:27 PM
I totally do not play shitty Final Fantasy game! Nope! Never ever!
Black Lily
Angle is some xiv trannie that get's up set about people having similar avatars to them
🔇09-Jul-21 08:36 PM
Meanwhile I’ve been seeing people use a version of mine to fuck themselves.
Futanari09-Jul-21 08:37 PM
Ah yes
Sexy
Krial09-Jul-21 09:07 PM
But I’m also not gonna say anything. Lmfao
Black Lily09-Jul-21 09:09 PM
But have you seen their steam account
Krial09-Jul-21 09:11 PM
...
Do I wanna
I didn’t. I shouldn’t have.
Jfc.
It’s biased so I’m not gunna say shit and they never post anyways so who cares, but holy fuck that’s cringe
Futanari09-Jul-21 09:13 PM
Disgusting
Wondering if i can grab their vrchat account
Or someshit
Krial10-Jul-21 12:20 AM
1
carl is having a good vacation i see.
lmfao
Black Lily10-Jul-21 12:21 AM
That's Grizly @Krial
Krial10-Jul-21 12:21 AM
Oh.
Mission failed.
We'll get them next time
Wait are you sure?
Grizzly just answered a message of mine like, an hour ago
and didnt type like that at all.
Black Lily10-Jul-21 12:26 AM
Nevermind he should have been asleep at that time
Futanari10-Jul-21 12:26 AM
Poor carl
:)
It says im sorry for not making the karoke but i hope you have a good night
Black Lily10-Jul-21 12:34 AM
Actually I'm a retard and can't read clocks
Probably Grizly
/u/GemManBad10-Jul-21 03:00 PM
i've just realized that we have like 10 - 12 more boosts than the last server typically had
coloured names really do pull them in
Krial10-Jul-21 03:09 PM
Thay and people REALLY wanted to make sure it wouldn’t become Ryder cord I think
Lol
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<310-Jul-21 03:12 PM
imagine giving discord money
🔇10-Jul-21 04:31 PM
@Jason welcome to the gay inner circle
Jason10-Jul-21 04:32 PM
Neat
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3
imagine giving discord money
Jason10-Jul-21 04:36 PM
why give discord money when i can just yoink krial's gifted nitros
ask somebody else, just from the words "gondola's underage gf"
im already turned off
Krial10-Jul-21 05:04 PM
Aphrodii says different person
🔇10-Jul-21 05:04 PM
inculta was the name of kite's underaged gf, which is why i asked
Krial10-Jul-21 05:05 PM
Wachu think asylum
Meeps10-Jul-21 05:06 PM
Oh
Yes that’s kite’s ex. She’s been around meetups I guess here and there. Knows unity and blender stuff which might be why she’s coming around but idk. Knows the thread exists but I doubt she goes to it
Kind of likes to start shit with ppl
Eric10-Jul-21 05:07 PM
oh another one
i say no then
Krial10-Jul-21 05:07 PM
With it.
Meeps10-Jul-21 05:14 PM
Black Lily10-Jul-21 06:01 PM
She never browsed 4chan
Dal29010-Jul-21 06:08 PM
So I was told Ivan832 is apparently underaged, and the halo guys already booted him
Black Lily10-Jul-21 06:10 PM
I don't think he was ever even active in the discord(edited)
Dal29010-Jul-21 06:11 PM
My concern is it looks like he wiggled into meetups, and people apparently don't know
Acting degen towards the guy
Black Lily10-Jul-21 06:11 PM
He fucked wintermute at a meetup like a year ago
Dal29010-Jul-21 06:12 PM
Black Lily10-Jul-21 06:17 PM
@Dal290 how did they find out he's underage
Dal29010-Jul-21 06:19 PM
From what I heard he acted sussy, they questioned him, and then he reacted all coy about "HOW OLD ARE YOUUU?!?"
He "wasn't comfortable sharing" so he was booted
@/u/GemManBad@Pineapples@./a.out Might know
Black Lily10-Jul-21 06:20 PM
Why aren't kids ever smart enough to just say early twenties(edited)
I'll sort it out, going to be another fun episode of people in vrc being all pissy about "what do you mean in a community so active in the erp scene that we have randoms clawing to get in that I NEED TO REMOVE THE UNDERAGE KID WHAT THE FUCKKKKKKKK"
/u/GemManBad10-Jul-21 06:25 PM
ill do it
save you the face
Dal29010-Jul-21 06:25 PM
What face lmoa, my expertise is people hate when I say shit like this but they know it has to be done
/u/GemManBad10-Jul-21 06:26 PM
spread the blame out, dont want you getting the rep as the guy that bans
Dal29010-Jul-21 06:26 PM
I already have that rep XD
/u/GemManBad10-Jul-21 06:26 PM
i guess so, just dont want it to get worse
/u/GemManBad10-Jul-21 06:44 PM
done
Black Lily10-Jul-21 06:47 PM
Futanari10-Jul-21 07:31 PM
@Jason welcome to cringe
Jason10-Jul-21 07:32 PM
ty i didn't realize how many fuckin jannies there were goddamn
Dal290
@/u/GemManBad@Pineapples@./a.out Might know
./a.out10-Jul-21 07:33 PM
Yea, i got him to join a vc during halo cuz we didnt know him, and i said "Quick, give us your birthday in 10 seconds!" And he was like "uhhh.... idk". Gave him another shot for the fuck of it and he finally said "August... i dont feel comfortable sharing my information..." then he left the vc and we booted his ass from the server
I see him join our meetups a lot and i try to tell people he's underaged but no one listens
Futanari10-Jul-21 07:35 PM
Wait who is it?
./a.out10-Jul-21 07:35 PM
Ivan832
Dal29010-Jul-21 07:35 PM
I'll try and poke people about it in vrc, people usually don't fuck around with that kind of business when you remind them of the real deep issues
"Hey you know how you were in a nude avatar the other day in front of an underage" ect
Futanari10-Jul-21 07:35 PM
So many pedos in vrg bros
./a.out10-Jul-21 07:37 PM
Good idea
Futanari
So many pedos in vrg bros
./a.out10-Jul-21 07:37 PM
This but scarily unironically
Dal29010-Jul-21 07:38 PM
Kinda pissed off that people let this kind of shit slide, we learned this lesson before, bad idea to have any dealings of any kind with kids
Futanari10-Jul-21 07:39 PM
Wait
Ivan
Yeah that guy erpd with most peeps from /trash/
If i do know now
:)
./a.out10-Jul-21 07:40 PM
Jesus christ
Dal29010-Jul-21 07:40 PM
Of fucking course they did
Futanari10-Jul-21 07:40 PM
Ah yes
I do know he joins vrg to find someone
Funny
Everytime i see him im like
Hes getting at someone
./a.out10-Jul-21 07:42 PM
Maybe thats why im getting the silent treatment when i tell people, motherfuckers dont want to hear that they fucked an underaged
Futanari10-Jul-21 07:42 PM
So i saw ivans mutual friends
>63
./a.out10-Jul-21 07:43 PM
Im scared to see the list
Dal29010-Jul-21 07:43 PM
It's a thing, I don't care if the fucker lied to them or never told them, but the literal split second you hear news of this shit you better do something
Futanari10-Jul-21 07:44 PM
Ah yes its also individuals i know that erp as well
I love vrchat
./a.out10-Jul-21 07:45 PM
Exactly! Like i can understand if he lied, no way of you knowing, but to find out there's even a possibility of him bein underaged and goin "ok.", thats fucked(edited)
Jason10-Jul-21 07:45 PM
i had him friended and im not sure i ever talked to him
Futanari10-Jul-21 07:45 PM
He added you for the sex later routine
:)
Jason10-Jul-21 07:46 PM
i gotta interact with people to remember them and i dont remember the guy at all so
whats his av look like
./a.out10-Jul-21 07:49 PM
Ehhh i think its like a booth with a hat or something. I have 90% of avatars blocked cuz my computer poopoo but i think i remember a hat and a booth
Black Lily10-Jul-21 07:50 PM
He used hamster that xano used to use I think
./a.out10-Jul-21 07:51 PM
That sounds right
Futanari10-Jul-21 07:51 PM
Oh no
I dont want to think much on this
It hurts my inside
./a.out10-Jul-21 07:56 PM
I sense a storm brewing
Or absolutely nothing
I cant tell
Black Lily10-Jul-21 07:56 PM
Will we see people witch hunt underage coomers
Futanari
Yeah that guy erpd with most peeps from /trash/
/u/GemManBad10-Jul-21 07:57 PM
well now im glad i had the honors of kicking him
i got question by oku, thats it
Futanari10-Jul-21 07:59 PM
This is why i find erping with randos super sus
./a.out10-Jul-21 08:06 PM
Oh sweet jesus how the fuck did he get in my bee discord!
Futanari10-Jul-21 08:07 PM
The nuke was a good idea
Now we know who is a rando and underage
Black Lily10-Jul-21 08:08 PM
He likes bees
./a.out10-Jul-21 08:08 PM
He can like my boot in his ass rq
Black Lily10-Jul-21 08:08 PM
And we know who's been shitting up the thread for years
But we lost v1ll3
Futanari10-Jul-21 08:12 PM
Im glad i always have the mindset of people from /trash/ are all pedos
Distoibed10-Jul-21 08:12 PM
I don't expect a lot of morality from /trash/
Futanari10-Jul-21 08:16 PM
Guess anyone that goes to /trash/ here ill just see them as pedos now
./a.out10-Jul-21 08:17 PM
Cant say i blame you with the shit they post sometimes
Black Lily10-Jul-21 08:18 PM
Guro
Futanari10-Jul-21 08:18 PM
Ah yes
./a.out10-Jul-21 08:18 PM
Indeed
Futanari10-Jul-21 08:19 PM
Perrine10-Jul-21 09:37 PM
I got randomly friended by Ivan on Jul 3 at the meetup, I still haven't spoken to him.
I also didn't accept the friend request, iirc.
./a.out10-Jul-21 10:04 PM
I wonder if he started weasling in more because he was kicked from halocord. Cuz i literally had never seen him till the very week he was kicked from the halo server, and then i proceeded to see him at pretty much every instance since then
Futanari10-Jul-21 10:10 PM
He was sad man
He wanted coom
Pineapples10-Jul-21 10:35 PM
Sounds just like U-511 all over again.
BBC (Big Bunny Cock)10-Jul-21 10:36 PM
Ivan is a coomer
Pineapples10-Jul-21 10:36 PM
I'll definitely keep an eye out for him on the rare occasion that I'm around.
BBC (Big Bunny Cock)10-Jul-21 10:36 PM
all he does is trying to get you to lewd him
Pineapples10-Jul-21 10:41 PM
Should we really let this Inculta guy just hang around when he threatened to report the server? Joke or not, he's being difficult, lying, and not getting in anyway.
./a.out10-Jul-21 10:47 PM
I say boot his ass
Futanari10-Jul-21 10:48 PM
./a.out10-Jul-21 10:51 PM
Possibly ban since he's probably just gonna keep climbing back in the server?
Pineapples10-Jul-21 10:52 PM
Yep, that's what I did.
./a.out10-Jul-21 10:52 PM
Excellente
Pineapples10-Jul-21 10:53 PM
Didn't add a reason in case he has friends here who might see that he was banned for threatening to report us, then report the server themselves in retaliation.
./a.out10-Jul-21 10:53 PM
Smart
That might've been kite's old gf
Pineapples10-Jul-21 10:54 PM
I really hope the spergs we have here don't just start doing that all the time. Any chance I have to not give them incentive, all the better.
Krial10-Jul-21 10:54 PM
It was
Meeps said they start a ton of shit
Pineapples10-Jul-21 10:55 PM
Yeah, Asylum did suggest that. Whether it's true or not, don't want them in there.
Yeah, she and Kite would both sperg on people for hours.
No way we should let her in.
Black Lily10-Jul-21 10:55 PM
I hate her but I don't like moderating based on my emotions
./a.out10-Jul-21 10:55 PM
The matchmake from hell
Krial10-Jul-21 10:56 PM
Girls that try to get guys to like them in order to start shit?
No reason to allow that behavior.
Pineapples10-Jul-21 10:56 PM
I don't know her enough to have much of an opinion, but she did nothing but stir shit in the discord so that's a definite no from me.
I assume she's not even from the thread anyway
./a.out10-Jul-21 10:57 PM
Yea. Emmanated a cunty vibe right off the bat
Krial10-Jul-21 10:57 PM
Joke schizoing in welcome is very cringe.
Pineapples10-Jul-21 10:58 PM
Yeah, they can be a retard in here, but lying and dodging questions in welcome is not gonna get you anywhere
Black Lily10-Jul-21 10:58 PM
She's a cheater and doxxed I guy because she changed her mind about sending nudes to him
Pineapples10-Jul-21 10:58 PM
The fuck?
./a.out10-Jul-21 10:58 PM
Ow
Futanari10-Jul-21 10:59 PM
Isnt she underage?
Pineapples10-Jul-21 10:59 PM
Is or was, apparently.
Futanari10-Jul-21 10:59 PM
Pineapples10-Jul-21 10:59 PM
Unless that was just a meme.
./a.out10-Jul-21 10:59 PM
Kite likes em pre-ripe
Pineapples10-Jul-21 10:59 PM
Wouldn't surprise me, though.
./a.out10-Jul-21 10:59 PM
Pretty sure it was unironic
Pineapples10-Jul-21 10:59 PM
She sure acted like an angry teenager.
Futanari10-Jul-21 11:00 PM
She makes a ton of alt accounts on vrc
Futanari
Isnt she underage?
Black Lily10-Jul-21 11:00 PM
She was 16 when kITE started dating her
./a.out10-Jul-21 11:00 PM
Too many underages comin in. Gon' have to start asking for ID's at this rate
Futanari10-Jul-21 11:01 PM
./a.out
Too many underages comin in. Gon' have to start asking for ID's at this rate
Futanari10-Jul-21 11:01 PM
No
./a.out10-Jul-21 11:01 PM
Dot your visa will count
Futanari10-Jul-21 11:01 PM
I dont have a green card
./a.out10-Jul-21 11:01 PM
Oh shit
Im sorry sir, but i cant serve you
Futanari10-Jul-21 11:02 PM
Black Lily
She was 16 when kITE started dating her
June10-Jul-21 11:25 PM
um
Black Lily10-Jul-21 11:25 PM
Yes
June10-Jul-21 11:25 PM
is that known as a fact
isn't this super old stuff as well?
Futanari10-Jul-21 11:29 PM
Black Lily10-Jul-21 11:29 PM
It's at least two years ago
I originally knew her from Rare Spice's dmc community
She started some drama in there and has been jumping from community to community starting drama then leaving making a new account each time
She has like 30ish alts
Hamulily gave her all of his accounts too for some reason
Futanari10-Jul-21 11:36 PM
Mentally unstabled
They use them to avoid drama
Black Lily10-Jul-21 11:37 PM
Yes, most people that hung out with kITE and Zauber were
Futanari10-Jul-21 11:37 PM
She always asked me for my assets i put together
Including private clients i use
Dal29010-Jul-21 11:48 PM
I remember when I approached Hamulilly on one of his alts and I thought he was using a soundboard
Futanari10-Jul-21 11:48 PM
Moshi moshi
Black Lily10-Jul-21 11:59 PM
I miss Hamu
If only he didn't start playing ff with anon
Black Lily
Yes, most people that hung out with kITE and Zauber were
Krial11-Jul-21 12:18 AM
Krial
Black Lily11-Jul-21 12:19 AM
I speak only the truth
Krial11-Jul-21 12:19 AM
I am of perfect mental health, now watch as I paint the walls in feces to prevent the government from taking my unborn child.
Futanari11-Jul-21 12:22 AM
What?(edited)
Black Lily11-Jul-21 12:23 AM
It means he has another kidney stone
Futanari11-Jul-21 12:25 AM
Quit getting kidney stones
Drink water
Brainy11-Jul-21 02:50 AM
Who is threatening to report the server and for what?
If it's about Ivan, you guys did what you had to do by removing / reporting him.
Anyone who gives you shit (complains / criticizes) over removing a minor from a community full of adults who ERP is a moron.
Their opinion literally has 0 value.(edited)
Black Lily
She started some drama in there and has been jumping from community to community starting drama then leaving making a new account each time
Brainy11-Jul-21 02:53 AM
Sounds like someone we do not want here, especially if they doxxed people and were allegedly sending around pictures of themselves while underage. I feel like anyone known to be underage at any point in time should simply not be allowed back here because there's no way of knowing if they're lying about being an adult and it's not worth the risk.
It's really common for kids who are 13 or 14 to claim they're 16 or 17.
Pineapples11-Jul-21 02:56 AM
It was Inculta, apparently Kite's formerly(?) underage girlfriend making a fuss about not being let in. You can take a look in #welcome. It was probably a joke, but anyone who's being difficult about the vetting process and then brings up reporting the server can fuck off in my opinion.
She was insisting on staying in the server just to have access to the member list anyway, so kicking wouldn't have done any good.
Pineapples
It was Inculta, apparently Kite's formerly(?) underage girlfriend making a fuss about not being let in. You can take a look in #welcome. It was probably a joke, but anyone who's being difficult about the vetting process and then brings up reporting the server can fuck off in my opinion.
Brainy11-Jul-21 02:57 AM
100% agree.
What you can do is make it so all users with the VRG role don't have access to #welcome
Then they can't abuse the memberlist because they won't see it until they're let into the server.
But I don't know if that would impact vetting.
IE if you want users to be able to vouch.
Pineapples11-Jul-21 02:59 AM
Yeah, but it does come in handy for others to see new people joining. Sometimes someone will know who it is and either confirm they're coming from the right place or give us a heads up when it's someone we wouldn't want to be let in.
Krial11-Jul-21 03:00 AM
Vetting and vouching can be done with mutual friends and vrc
Don’t need them to see the server for more than that.
I do like the react memeing in welcome though honestly that seems to have died since we actually vet people quickly now
Futanari11-Jul-21 03:02 AM
Guess we have to take shit slowly then
Pineapples11-Jul-21 03:02 AM
Yeah, people do get to have a bit of fun with that sometimes.
Brainy11-Jul-21 03:04 AM
People who join here and then threaten to report the server if they don't get what they want are cancer.
Literally the cancer in the community that got the last few servers deleted.
I have zero sympathy removing them forever from this place. lol
Especially with everything else that user had against them (including being known underage at one point in time).
Pineapples11-Jul-21 03:06 AM
Yeah, it worries me that people might start to use reports as a way of getting back at people for not getting what they want. Like if someone's a problem and gets put in timeout repeatedly, they could get mad and report the server, maybe get their friends in on it as well to make sure it does something.
Brainy11-Jul-21 03:08 AM
So long as we're proactively moderating whatever they are reporting, just getting reported a lot won't accomplish anything. Hopefully they will all just fuck off to the Rydercord and get bored of their vendetta with this place eventually.
But that's also why I don't think we should take any chances with users that have histories like, "they were underage X years ago", "they doxxed someone after sending them nudes", or both in this case. That's someone who has demonstrated they have a vindictive streak and if they were underage in the past they could still be underage now and literally ruin someone's life just by continuing to lie about it.
Futanari11-Jul-21 03:14 AM
Women lmao
Brainy11-Jul-21 03:23 AM
I mean it's not just women. You'd be surprised how many streamers had their lives ruined during #MeToo because underage male fan lied about their age and then exposed it after the fact. Which is pretty fucked up.(edited)
Futanari11-Jul-21 03:32 AM
I just think women on the internet are just mental
Futanari
I just think women on the internet are just mental
Brainy11-Jul-21 03:33 AM
I mean... you're not wrong?
1
Futanari11-Jul-21 03:34 AM
I also like thinking that women dont exist online sadly
Futanari
I just think women on the internet are just mental
Krial11-Jul-21 04:50 AM
This.
When I hear someone in welcome is a woman I instantly am hyper leery of letting them in.
They love trying to destroy communities.
Black Lily11-Jul-21 04:52 AM
Thankfully all of the women we have are very nice(edited)
Black Lily
Thankfully all of the women we have are very nice (edited)
Brainy11-Jul-21 05:25 AM
Boy do I have you fooled
Brainy
Boy do I have you fooled
🔇11-Jul-21 05:35 AM
1
Brainy
Boy do I have you fooled
Black Lily11-Jul-21 06:01 AM
Are you a femoid
Perrine11-Jul-21 12:28 PM
Do women really not have penises?
How do they jack off?
Stannic11-Jul-21 12:31 PM
Looking at royce stuff he seems like one of them eu coomers
Krial11-Jul-21 12:52 PM
Yeah I agree
He’s not in lewdcord that I’ve infiltrated tho
To see who’s where
His Twitter is nothing but coomer shit too but who cares reallt
I think he’s 4chan because he didn’t bullshit list off like 6 niche boards like trv or some shit that he absolutely doenst browse so we shall see(edited)
Stannic11-Jul-21 12:53 PM
Yeah
Prolly won’t post much anyways
He’s a lurker
Krial11-Jul-21 12:53 PM
Ye ye
Stannic11-Jul-21 12:58 PM
Inb4 rainy was a mod for tg-chat
@Brainy
Stannic
@Brainy
Brainy11-Jul-21 05:15 PM
What is that even?
Stannic11-Jul-21 05:15 PM
nvm
you mostly remind me of someone who moderated the chat similiarly in another community
it was uncanny of a resemblence(edited)
Brainy11-Jul-21 05:16 PM
Stannic11-Jul-21 05:16 PM
/tg/ the board
Brainy11-Jul-21 05:16 PM
If only I had a PP
OHH
Stannic11-Jul-21 05:16 PM
i hate stickers
Brainy11-Jul-21 05:17 PM
No, I actually never modded any 4Chan boards. I was too busy with other communities.
But also if you know / ever did mod 4Chan boards, you should definitely look into paid work as a moderator.
Stannic11-Jul-21 05:17 PM
hell no that shit is annoying and the irc chat is full of spergs
Brainy11-Jul-21 05:18 PM
I always gave recommendations to anyone with a history from like 4Chan over some shit like "Geek & Sundry" or "Kotaku" or whatever the crap.
Stannic11-Jul-21 05:18 PM
especially when problem users are especially the loudest
Brainy11-Jul-21 05:18 PM
Because they definitely have the most experience and most importantly they don't have a total stick up their ass.
Stannic11-Jul-21 05:19 PM
and then you have backseat moderators in the irc also who wants to lick the dirt of the moderator's soles
Stannic
and then you have backseat moderators in the irc also who wants to lick the dirt of the moderator's soles
Brainy11-Jul-21 05:19 PM
Don't tell Mona. Fufu
Stannic11-Jul-21 05:19 PM
hue
Mumu from NYC11-Jul-21 05:52 PM
yeah i was gonna post something but i dont feel like shitting up chat
Dal29011-Jul-21 05:54 PM
Ayo hol up @Brainy you some kind of f-lister
Mumu from NYC11-Jul-21 05:55 PM
if i hear about dals flist one more time im gonna kill dal
Black Lily11-Jul-21 06:04 PM
I found dals flist
Futanari11-Jul-21 06:24 PM
His fuck list is so sexy
I wish i was in it
Distoibed11-Jul-21 06:35 PM
I'm guessing it has a lot of fetishes
I prefer to be blissfully ignorant over this
Jason11-Jul-21 06:40 PM
Dal's f-list
Futanari11-Jul-21 09:19 PM
Dal smells anyways
Fuck you dal
Krial11-Jul-21 10:18 PM
@🔇 voice channel named watchers for watching movies/anime
tyvm
🔇11-Jul-21 10:18 PM
What’s wrong with using chatters?
Krial11-Jul-21 10:18 PM
fair
just a reco
Futanari11-Jul-21 10:19 PM
Lul
🔇11-Jul-21 10:19 PM
I don’t see the point of adding more vc when the ones we have don’t get used much.
Futanari11-Jul-21 10:19 PM
Just tell them shut up we watching something
Krial11-Jul-21 10:19 PM
fair deal.
Futanari11-Jul-21 10:19 PM
Smh use your voice
Krial11-Jul-21 10:20 PM
i guess they really dont get used much
dalcord stole all the vc squatters
lol
Futanari11-Jul-21 10:20 PM
Well no shit
Black Lily11-Jul-21 10:28 PM
I'm thankful we don't have vc squatters anymore
Futanari11-Jul-21 11:10 PM
You mena split vcs?
Cuz drama?
Krial11-Jul-21 11:57 PM
Well now we don’t have ppl joining ur channel and never stfu’ing when ur watching shit lol
Black Lily12-Jul-21 12:02 AM
They're all in dals discord where they belong
Futanari12-Jul-21 12:05 AM
Damn i wish i was cool like dal
./a.out12-Jul-21 12:45 AM
I have returned from vacay so whatever changes y'all wanted for jackbot I can do them now
Black Lily12-Jul-21 12:51 AM
How was your vacation
Futanari12-Jul-21 12:54 AM
Did you have sex?
Brainy
If only I had a PP
June12-Jul-21 01:33 AM
want one?
its only installable not a bolt on though
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<312-Jul-21 01:48 AM
almost sleepy time
2
June
its only installable not a bolt on though
Brainy12-Jul-21 01:56 AM
June offering me PP, eh?
June12-Jul-21 01:56 AM
Brainy12-Jul-21 01:56 AM
Stannic12-Jul-21 01:58 AM
Futanari12-Jul-21 02:00 AM
Cringe
June12-Jul-21 02:00 AM
Futanari12-Jul-21 02:00 AM
Block them
1
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<312-Jul-21 02:03 AM
wrong wchat o well
Black Lily
How was your vacation
./a.out12-Jul-21 02:18 AM
twas good, tennessee is fun place
Futanari
Did you have sex?
./a.out12-Jul-21 02:19 AM
no
Futanari12-Jul-21 02:38 AM
Damn
That was a serious question too
./a.out12-Jul-21 03:19 AM
i'm sorry to dissapoint lol
./a.out
I have returned from vacay so whatever changes y'all wanted for jackbot I can do them now
🔇12-Jul-21 03:29 AM
Make it so jannies can use it as well.
./a.out12-Jul-21 03:31 AM
gotcha
🔇12-Jul-21 03:32 AM
./a.out12-Jul-21 03:33 AM
done
ExecutiveJackbotBOT12-Jul-21 03:41 AM
Das racist
Krial12-Jul-21 03:41 AM
Stannic12-Jul-21 03:45 AM
Aw no reaction
./a.out12-Jul-21 03:45 AM
i gotchu, one sec
ExecutiveJackbotBOT12-Jul-21 03:45 AM
Das racist
GAMER???
Stannic12-Jul-21 03:46 AM
Krial12-Jul-21 03:52 AM
@Brainy i apologize
i think we have given your bot much more work to do now
lol
🔇12-Jul-21 03:52 AM
It’s June’s bot.
Krial12-Jul-21 03:52 AM
oh
@June deal w/ it
I don't know rainy enough to tell them to deal w/ it
lol
🔇12-Jul-21 03:53 AM
It’s okay.
./a.out12-Jul-21 04:05 AM
if it gets outta hand, just say the word and I can wipe these new features lol
I dunno how they are on displaying of dead bodies. I reviewed the footage though and it looks like the most graphic footage of the actual murder is cut here.(edited)
BTW if you guys are worried about reviewing anything that might have extreme gore, violence, etc., you can ask me to review it, I'm used to seeing it.
I'd rather limit the exposure of Jannies to extreme content if it's not necessary (especially if sensitive to that material).(edited)
Jason12-Jul-21 08:58 PM
Brainy
BTW if you guys are worried about reviewing anything that might have extreme gore, violence, etc., you can ask me to review it, I'm used to seeing it.
I'd rather limit the exposure of Jannies to extreme content if it's not necessary (especially if sensitive to that material). (edited)
Krial12-Jul-21 09:21 PM
I was a 4chan jannie and brief mod for like 10 years Lul I think I can see a beheading or two
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Jason12-Jul-21 09:37 PM
i was one of those cool kids who got exposed to slow beheading videos before they were teenaged not much effects me
that brick through the car window does tho
Brainy12-Jul-21 09:40 PM
It's sad when seeing the worst of this stuff in teens is normal for us.
I think the worst I saw was stiletto kitten.
Dunno why, but the violence towards defenseless companion animals triggers me more than the stuff towards humans.
Jason12-Jul-21 09:42 PM
same
Futanari12-Jul-21 09:42 PM
I saw a rats pp get snipped off
We called him snippys the rat
Jason12-Jul-21 09:45 PM
i remember that video
Futanari12-Jul-21 09:45 PM
Never forget
Brainy12-Jul-21 10:08 PM
Any way we can get #jannieactions to purge after a day, if not make it private? The reason being we're not fully "deleting" content until we go back there to clear it out.
June13-Jul-21 01:10 AM
bots purging the channel rn
just do *purge 2000 when you want it cleaned up(edited)
Brainy
I think the worst I saw was stiletto kitten.
Krial13-Jul-21 01:22 AM
I saw a grown man murder an infant once
That one was prolly worst
Also alarming amounts of cp
Stannic13-Jul-21 01:23 AM
oh yeah
you were a jannie
Krial13-Jul-21 01:23 AM
I may try to ask for back
Futanari13-Jul-21 01:23 AM
Oops
Krial13-Jul-21 01:23 AM
I left on good terms
Futanari13-Jul-21 01:23 AM
Stannic13-Jul-21 01:23 AM
on vg?
June13-Jul-21 01:23 AM
Stannic13-Jul-21 01:23 AM
which board did you even moderate
Krial13-Jul-21 01:24 AM
V vg x and b
Stannic13-Jul-21 01:24 AM
i'd imagine some sperging retard posting that shit in the obvious places
yeah
that makes sense
>x
Krial13-Jul-21 01:24 AM
My fav board
Stannic13-Jul-21 01:24 AM
MODS KEEP DELETING MY TULPA THREADSS
HELP
NO THE SUCCUBUS THREAD IS LEGIT
Krial13-Jul-21 01:24 AM
Yep
Stannic13-Jul-21 01:24 AM
SNIFF THE BLEACH CRYSTALS
Krial13-Jul-21 01:24 AM
That sums it up
Stannic13-Jul-21 01:24 AM
WHAT DO YOU MEAN SELF-INDUCED SCHIZOPHRENIA IS NOT OKAY?
FUCK YOU JANNIE
Krial13-Jul-21 01:25 AM
I was the nice one though
Moot raged at me one time in many years
Stannic13-Jul-21 01:25 AM
Krial13-Jul-21 01:26 AM
Lol
He said I was leaving shit up when I could just take it down
I said I was removing aids
And he called me a retard
Lol
Other admin loved it though lol
Stannic13-Jul-21 01:30 AM
pretty based
Futanari13-Jul-21 01:30 AM
Shut up
Clean it up janny
Krial13-Jul-21 01:30 AM
I think 4chan in general has gotten way too soft on them(edited)
Stannic13-Jul-21 01:31 AM
hiroshimoot stopped caring
Krial13-Jul-21 01:31 AM
Just because there’s other low hanging fruit
Stannic13-Jul-21 01:31 AM
they're just another source of ad revenue
that's why trash exist
ExecutiveJackbotBOT13-Jul-21 01:31 AM
Das racist... wait no it's not
Stannic13-Jul-21 01:31 AM
<
well then
Futanari13-Jul-21 01:31 AM
Oh cringe
Krial13-Jul-21 01:31 AM
I had a feeling I wanted out when someone told me to calm down with racism in the discord after we moved
Stannic13-Jul-21 01:32 AM
>calm down on racism
yeah sounds like nu-4chinz alright
Krial13-Jul-21 01:32 AM
“We have no anonymity here so you don’t want to piss people off and make enemies”
Bitch like
ExecutiveJackbotBOT13-Jul-21 01:32 AM
I'm crying RN
Krial13-Jul-21 01:32 AM
You know what you’re signing up for
Stannic13-Jul-21 01:33 AM
i'd expect all of them in that discord to be some fucking alt
otherwise they're a god damn retard
Krial13-Jul-21 01:33 AM
Mine wasn’t
I got doxxed by 8ch though so I couldn’t give less of a fucj
Stannic13-Jul-21 01:33 AM
oh
i guess at that point there's no care to give
Futanari13-Jul-21 01:33 AM
Why do people doxx lmao
Krial13-Jul-21 01:34 AM
Becuase I was staff
Futanari13-Jul-21 01:34 AM
Its not like theyre coming after you
Krial13-Jul-21 01:34 AM
And they’re cringe
Yeah literally nothing happened
Futanari13-Jul-21 01:34 AM
Meh
Krial13-Jul-21 01:34 AM
People dox purely to try to rob you of feeling safe
Stannic13-Jul-21 01:34 AM
because it scares some people that it's easy to get information out of people and with some social engineering you can get a bunch of info and doxx
Krial13-Jul-21 01:34 AM
It’s just fear
Futanari13-Jul-21 01:34 AM
People that do shit on the internet always end up shitting up their lives somehow
Krial13-Jul-21 01:34 AM
I hope hotwheels rolls his fucking wheelchair off a cliff(edited)
Stannic13-Jul-21 01:34 AM
yeah because people around them start to distrust them entirely
ExecutiveJackbotBOT13-Jul-21 01:35 AM
Das racist
Das racist... wait no it's not
Krial13-Jul-21 01:35 AM
Hes a giant tool
He sent us an email saying he had all our irc logs
Taunting us
Stannic13-Jul-21 01:36 AM
kiwi farms admin did a lot of the work for that site anyways
Krial13-Jul-21 01:36 AM
RA told hkm to eat shit snd kill himself
Stannic13-Jul-21 01:36 AM
hotwheels was a fucking piece of shit
Krial13-Jul-21 01:36 AM
RA is based
But very pol
Like very very pol
Actual unironically white sup
Stannic13-Jul-21 01:37 AM
i mean i'd expect that or some other form of mental illness
Krial13-Jul-21 01:37 AM
Alternative the other admin tho
Is just purely based
Never had a single bad interaction with him
Stannic13-Jul-21 01:37 AM
inb4 you were talking to patrick bateman
Krial13-Jul-21 01:38 AM
I wish
The other jani of x was cringe though
Like I love mysticism
Stannic13-Jul-21 01:38 AM
oh
he's that kind of weirdo
Krial13-Jul-21 01:39 AM
This dude believed in all sorts of wild shit lol
Stannic13-Jul-21 01:39 AM
did he also believe in numerology
Krial13-Jul-21 01:39 AM
I can’t even remember his name lmao
Nah
Worse shit
Stannic13-Jul-21 01:39 AM
damn that would've been icing
Krial13-Jul-21 01:39 AM
Tulpas magick etc
Numerology isn’t even cringe
In comparison to some shit
Stannic13-Jul-21 01:40 AM
dunno man some of the stuff in there is wild when it comes to making shit up on the spot based on the number
and then fuels everything else
Krial13-Jul-21 01:40 AM
I miss old x
Like posting pics from abandoned places and shit live
That was fun
Stannic13-Jul-21 01:40 AM
the green arrow stories were good too
and not some reddit tier shit story telling
Krial13-Jul-21 01:41 AM
I think ima email RA when I’m back
And see if they need help lol
Stannic13-Jul-21 01:41 AM
is he happy about hiroshimoot
Krial13-Jul-21 01:41 AM
I’m not going to manipulate thread though. That’s cringe. I thought about that already though. If Ryder is shitting it up by spamming their discord or whatever
Y’all gonna deal with it yalls selves I think
Stannic13-Jul-21 01:42 AM
It'll eventually culminate into some drama explosion and splinter in vrc
Krial13-Jul-21 01:42 AM
Nah. I doubt it.
Stannic13-Jul-21 01:42 AM
and ultimately only those groups will care
Krial13-Jul-21 01:42 AM
I think Rydercord is done now
Literally everyone has came over
Stannic13-Jul-21 01:42 AM
everyone else is gonna keep on being the same
Krial13-Jul-21 01:42 AM
I think it’s a waiting game now
What that group wants is this discord tk get nuked
Then to spam theirs before
That’s what I’d do anyways if I were them
Stannic13-Jul-21 01:43 AM
eh it's them shitting up the thread now like they've always done
if another power vacuum happens then oh well
the fact that power vacuums happen over something like this is fucking stupid
next thing you know ryder is gonna be wearing a crown too like yuru
June13-Jul-21 02:39 AM
Lmao
Just ignore the tranies
Krial
I saw a grown man murder an infant once
Brainy13-Jul-21 02:59 AM
Sounds like /b/
Krial
“We have no anonymity here so you don’t want to piss people off and make enemies”
Brainy13-Jul-21 03:07 AM
I mean you can still be anonymous on Discord? Just don't add any of your socials. I don't get this?
Krial13-Jul-21 03:07 AM
The issue is like
If I call mod A a night
ExecutiveJackbotBOT13-Jul-21 03:07 AM
Das racist
Krial13-Jul-21 03:07 AM
And I’m mod B
He now dislikes mod B
Which makes us working together more difficult
Even if we don’t actually know each other
Brainy13-Jul-21 03:08 AM
Ohh I see, so people can now "identify" which mod is behind X statement.
Krial13-Jul-21 03:08 AM
Yeah
Brainy13-Jul-21 03:08 AM
Yeah I can definitely see that.
Krial13-Jul-21 03:08 AM
It was still cringe though.
You know you signed up to work with 4chan
You know what we do to filter
Deal w/it(edited)
Brainy13-Jul-21 03:09 AM
Wait so it was another mod who doxxed you too?
That's fucked up.
Any idea how they were able to doxx you?
Krial13-Jul-21 03:09 AM
No it was a Janie
Jannie leaves
Takes years worth of irc logs
Runs like a bitch to 8chan like “oooh look what I have”
Brainy13-Jul-21 03:10 AM
Did the IRC logs include DMs?
Krial13-Jul-21 03:10 AM
No
They found me becuase I had posted a pic of a tattoo
Brainy13-Jul-21 03:10 AM
What a jackass either way though
Krial13-Jul-21 03:10 AM
They found the tattoo artist, saw me comment on it
Boom
Stannic
It'll eventually culminate into some drama explosion and splinter in vrc
Black Lily13-Jul-21 03:10 AM
But Ryder isn't actually that popular so something like this wouldn't matter
Brainy13-Jul-21 03:10 AM
This pisses me off so much that it was another jannie lol
Krial13-Jul-21 03:10 AM
It was my own fault
It’s whatever. Nothing happened
I just got some rude Facebook messages from empty accounts
Lol
Brainy13-Jul-21 03:11 AM
I hope nobody trusted that person with anything after that
Black Lily
But Ryder isn't actually that popular so something like this wouldn't matter
Stannic13-Jul-21 03:11 AM
oh ogey
i don't hang with that group at all so all i know is that they are always at the center of something dumb when minor spats happen
Brainy
I hope nobody trusted that person with anything after that
Krial13-Jul-21 03:14 AM
I mean he was deleted from everything
ExecutiveJackbotBOT13-Jul-21 03:14 AM
I'm crying RN
Krial13-Jul-21 03:14 AM
Yeah nah it’s a meme that Ryder is king shit
They have like a couple orbiters but no one cares really
Stannic13-Jul-21 03:25 AM
Distoibed13-Jul-21 03:31 AM
From what i have seen, Ryder cant shit-talk
Stannic13-Jul-21 03:40 AM
they have their orbiters do that for them
Distoibed13-Jul-21 03:43 AM
weak
Eric13-Jul-21 12:37 PM
ryder is a bitch
we knew this already
its not hard to scream at him and watch him freeze up
its like reprimanding a middle schooler
June13-Jul-21 12:57 PM
no more inner circle rent free shit after this line
____
3
Stannic13-Jul-21 01:01 PM
june gey
Stannic
june gey
June13-Jul-21 01:05 PM
listen here you little shit
Stannic13-Jul-21 01:05 PM
June13-Jul-21 01:06 PM
stupid gremlin
Futanari13-Jul-21 01:59 PM
But funny
Dal29013-Jul-21 04:56 PM
Yeah instead of bitching about him, bitch to him ez
Eric13-Jul-21 10:39 PM
@Futanari theres a ripper in /trash/ now
idk if it was just people fucking around
Futanari13-Jul-21 10:40 PM
I know that
Eric13-Jul-21 10:40 PM
yeah
make sure the retard doesnt affect vrg if you cant find them
you seem like the person to figure out who they are
@Dal290 just give ryder that fat twitter W and leave his discord in the op and us out
Black Lily
It was like that last thread too
Dal29015-Jul-21 06:39 PM
They are really trying at this point, they copied the old rentry, and slightly changed the last letter from an i to an l
So it looks the same
Black Lily15-Jul-21 06:42 PM
It doesn't really matter
Ryder's discord is dead as fuck
Dal29015-Jul-21 06:42 PM
Yee I just want to keep personally pressing him to see how much his pride stacks up to his understanding of what's best
So far the virtimate event wasn't in the Op for nearly half a month because haha funny mess with OP bullshit
Distoibed15-Jul-21 06:43 PM
+ it gives me more ammunition in case he or I ever start shit with eachother
Dal29015-Jul-21 06:44 PM
I am far from done dealing with people who won't cooperate or try and work with other people, this just nails the point home in case people ask why I get angry about shit
Black Lily15-Jul-21 06:48 PM
@Dal290 if you want you could stick the invite link to here in the worskshop
Dal29015-Jul-21 06:49 PM
Oh I feel enough people know this one exist, it's fine in that regard
Distoibed15-Jul-21 06:49 PM
Dal doesn't want it as far as I know
Dal29015-Jul-21 06:50 PM
That is the clear aim for why he refuses to take it down and "oh I don't approve of it but I am fine openly benefiting from it"
Black Lily15-Jul-21 06:50 PM
There's three that got in there but have stopped posting at this point
Dal29015-Jul-21 06:51 PM
No its in game interaction, we dealt with events being stiffled, this discord being pushed out of the OP, and the people's choice being spit on
Black Lily15-Jul-21 06:51 PM
And plenty of people that are in there and your workshop but not here
ExecutiveJackbotBOT15-Jul-21 06:52 PM
Das racist... wait no it's not
Black Lily
And plenty of people that are in there and your workshop but not here
Dal29015-Jul-21 06:52 PM
People avoided both discords because they are waiting for this to blow over, its a misinformation deal
They hear news ryder is trying to pull between the other discord, facts, activity, none of that matters
It's the mere mention of more drama after dealing with that election crap
People are sick of this shit, and are avoiding both
Black Lily15-Jul-21 06:54 PM
I don't blame them
June15-Jul-21 06:54 PM
just fucking join one and move on(edited)
stop being childern
no more mindgames
Dal29015-Jul-21 06:55 PM
>hey guys go join the vrg discord
>which one, no thanks
Black Lily15-Jul-21 06:59 PM
Just tell them to join guilded instead
Dal29015-Jul-21 06:59 PM
Brainy15-Jul-21 07:42 PM
Yeah I said this before, but elections and all that crap, despite what Yuru thinks, only breeds drama and resentment.
The only "vote" that matters in online communities is bodies (retention and growth).
If people don't like how the community is managed, they'll join another, or make their own.(edited)
Just focus on bettering processes here in a way that preserves community expression as much as possible.(edited)
Don't burden the community with votes on keyholders, moderators, jannies, or airing out dirty laundry.(edited)
Don't capitulate for the temporary approval of others ("Rydercord") who will never approve of you longterm.(edited)
Just let them do their thing and we'll do ours. The community will judge the rest.(edited)
I feel we're already doing it better and will outlast them ultimately.
If it really bothers you (them existing, or this rivalry) then the one thing I would suggest is to stop letting them benefit from community efforts here.(edited)
IE, if you're organizing (and announcing) events here, then it makes no sense for you to be cross-posting to #announcements on Ryder's server.(edited)
If you absolutely must, or want, to share in the interest of benefiting the VRG community at large, then the better way is with an announcement channel:(edited)
This way, if they follow our announcements channel to benefit their server, they're still properly crediting (and advertising) our server.(edited)
Futanari16-Jul-21 10:27 AM
Perrine16-Jul-21 12:14 PM
Sigh
Rent free
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes16-Jul-21 12:23 PM
I can't remember why
But didn't we ban sloppy from the last discord
Distoibed16-Jul-21 01:14 PM
hm...
since you brought that up.. I can recall something like that..
Brainy16-Jul-21 01:17 PM
This is why tribal knowledge is bad and it makes sense with a community this large to keep a list of users (including known aliases / alts) with ban reasons.(edited)
Tribal knowledge is information or knowledge that is known within a tribe but often unknown outside of it. A tribe, in this sense, may be a group or subgroup of people that share such a common knowledge. From a corporate perspective, "Tribal Knowledge or know-how is the collective wisdom of the organization. It is the sum of all the knowledge ...
I guess how I should phrase it is that it's not bad. It's over reliance upon it without any alternative form of documentation that is bad.
Details will be lost or misremembered over time.
Krial16-Jul-21 01:21 PM
“I got kicked in welcome screening but never sent anything because I was getting ready to head to Vegas”
Brainy16-Jul-21 01:22 PM
My biggest concern is over time users who made serious missteps could return and get past welcome or into a meetup.
Such as minors attempting to engage with others sexually.
Which, since becoming a Jannie, I've now witnessed / been informed of two cases like that. Over time, details about those users or cases will be forgotten, or recalled less critically, and the problem user is likely to return.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<316-Jul-21 01:26 PM
again discord doesnt affect meetups
Brainy16-Jul-21 01:26 PM
The biggest danger with this is that users who previously lied about their age and been discovered are likely to also lie about their real age in an effort to get back in here months or years later while still a minor.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3
again discord doesnt affect meetups
Brainy16-Jul-21 01:26 PM
I'm pretty sure we don't allow minors in the meetups either? Has that changed?
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<316-Jul-21 01:27 PM
no
Brainy16-Jul-21 01:27 PM
If not, then information discovered about users through Discord is relevant to the meetups.
Jason16-Jul-21 01:27 PM
discord just makes it easier to spread who is or isnt underage
Brainy16-Jul-21 01:28 PM
Which again is why I say this is kind of important information to document.
Krial16-Jul-21 01:46 PM
Rainy not trying to be rude or anything I just don’t think there’s that much interest in record keeping. One of those “how it’s always been done” things I think
We have @Black Lily anywyas. They remember everything about everyone ever
Brainy16-Jul-21 01:48 PM
Yeah I got that impression before too. I realize I'm the only person with this opinion and it's an unpopular one. But I still wanted to vocalize it (particularly in relation to the minor issue).
I understand you guys have your own way of doing things. So long as we're removing / gatekeeping against those users (minors) proactively we're doing what we need to do ultimately.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<316-Jul-21 01:51 PM
also i dont think sloppy was banned they are pretty new to vr looking at their steam(edited)
Krial16-Jul-21 01:58 PM
Ye nah he said why he was kicked
Lol I just asked him
He didn’t respond jn welcomer fast enough
June16-Jul-21 02:02 PM
personally I feel your guys are vetting too hard in welcome
I dont think I would actually pass at this point
Brainy16-Jul-21 02:05 PM
The only thing I'm super concerned over vetting wise is just a cursory look over socials to see if they're a minor.
IE just checking to see if they publicly list a birthday on their Twitter or something linked on their profile.
Other than that I could care less what boards or generals people frequent (other than VRG of course).
If the concern is people reporting the server, I don't think harsher vetting is going to help there (based on what other boards they frequent).
June
personally I feel your guys are vetting too hard in welcome
Krial16-Jul-21 02:07 PM
Way I always did it was look over profiles to see if they’re weird, ask em about headset/interest, boards, and fav videogame to get to know better
Only thing that red flags me is if they list a ton of out there boards like trv or some shit
Brainy16-Jul-21 02:08 PM
I'm an equal opportunity person. I think everyone has equal opportunity to be a shitter and do something shitty like report us over drama.
Krial16-Jul-21 02:09 PM
Snd we ask em boards to make sure they’re 4chan
Distoibed16-Jul-21 02:09 PM
we could always make a sticky of what's allowed and what's not
so that mod1 doesn't kicks people while mod3 would have let him in(edited)
Krial16-Jul-21 02:09 PM
As well as verify they aren’t just trash denizens
Plus if they say vg we can ask em what generals they browse, and then they can say “what’s a general” and we can then kick them lol
Distoibed
we could always make a sticky of what's allowed and what's not
so that mod1 doesn't kicks people while mod3 would have let him in (edited)
Krial16-Jul-21 02:10 PM
I think roll of the dice makes it funnier lol
June16-Jul-21 02:10 PM
I mean I only browse vrg and h at this point
I dont have the time for image boards anymore
Krial16-Jul-21 02:11 PM
Plus
Brainy16-Jul-21 02:11 PM
What's a general? What's a chan?
Krial16-Jul-21 02:11 PM
Interview weeds out schizo spergs
June16-Jul-21 02:11 PM
if i replied with that you would pin me as a coomer and prob not vet me
Krial16-Jul-21 02:11 PM
People who complain and bitch when you ask them one fking question
Probably don’t have the mental fortitude to not meltdown every other day
And nah
I don’t care if person coomer
Personally
I just look at mutual friends of coomers very closely
To see if they were spoonfed
Brainy16-Jul-21 02:12 PM
Do we deny coomers now?
Krial16-Jul-21 02:12 PM
Snd then earmark it for later testing
Idk what others do
Brainy16-Jul-21 02:12 PM
That's like half our population, coomers lol
Krial16-Jul-21 02:12 PM
June means spoonfed not 4chan coomer
Brainy16-Jul-21 02:12 PM
Ohhh
Krial16-Jul-21 02:12 PM
There’s a few NA and EU ppl if you see a random mutual friends with
You can almost guarantee they were spoonfed
So if I see them mutual I’ll interview snd let in, but later on a day or so later
Test them in some way snd usually catch
Brainy16-Jul-21 02:13 PM
Gotcha gotcha
Krial16-Jul-21 02:14 PM
U can only keep up charade for so long
June16-Jul-21 02:14 PM
I've seen at least once where people just pinpoint oh you play a mmo? no
Krial16-Jul-21 02:14 PM
Nah thay was a case of them saying they browsed xiv general
But didn’t know any actual xiv memes
June16-Jul-21 02:14 PM
yeah FF people are anoying but half of vrg is from there
Krial16-Jul-21 02:14 PM
I remember that one
June16-Jul-21 02:14 PM
oh I see
Krial16-Jul-21 02:14 PM
And they didn’t know any actual 4chan lingo I tested them on
It was beyond apparent
June16-Jul-21 02:14 PM
so spoonfed
Krial16-Jul-21 02:14 PM
Yeah
200%
If someone says ff is their game of choice
And fail 4ch tests too
Spoonfed Ezpz
June16-Jul-21 02:15 PM
idk why they want in
Krial16-Jul-21 02:15 PM
To lewd with friends and feel included
Literally all it is
June16-Jul-21 02:15 PM
but like
its the discord
Brainy16-Jul-21 02:15 PM
XIV was my main general before VRG and the meme of the bench is known outside of it to normies on Balmung.
June16-Jul-21 02:15 PM
join in vrc
Krial16-Jul-21 02:15 PM
June ima dm u the ppl. I think. Spoonfed
June16-Jul-21 02:15 PM
ok
Krial16-Jul-21 02:15 PM
And u let me know ur thoughts kk
Brainy16-Jul-21 02:16 PM
So someone not knowing that seems really unlikely.
June
its the discord
Distoibed16-Jul-21 02:18 PM
people think that once you're in the discord you've officially joined "the gang"(edited)
Krial16-Jul-21 02:18 PM
Yeah
June16-Jul-21 02:18 PM
which isn't true
you get that by being at the meetups regular
Distoibed16-Jul-21 02:19 PM
it isn't, but that's their thought process
June16-Jul-21 02:19 PM
yeah
Krial16-Jul-21 02:19 PM
Retards
Either way
Distoibed16-Jul-21 02:19 PM
and another thing
some people want to be in every group possible
"so that they don't feel left out"
they wanna know what every group is doign at any time
June16-Jul-21 02:20 PM
yeah, tough shit
Krial16-Jul-21 02:20 PM
Very gay
Brainy16-Jul-21 02:21 PM
When my only VRC social group is VRG what does that say about me
I dunno how people have 5 different groups
Distoibed16-Jul-21 02:22 PM
some people just wanna be some kind of an information broker
Brainy16-Jul-21 02:22 PM
I never pub world on my own
Krial16-Jul-21 02:25 PM
Pubhop is fun if you shitpost
I do it all the time
Only group vrg
Shit on every other group openly
ExecutiveJackbotBOT16-Jul-21 02:26 PM
GAMER???
Krial16-Jul-21 02:26 PM
This is the way
Brainy16-Jul-21 02:27 PM
Also kind of unrelated. I wouldn't consider it relevant to vetting. But I just like hearing the responses people give to favorite game or currently playing game that I see in #welcome
Krial16-Jul-21 02:29 PM
Ye
Tells u a lot about them
I cringe openly when ppl are like “oh battle field 4”
Fuck out of here
Zoomer shit(edited)
Brainy16-Jul-21 02:29 PM
Meh callamehduty
I keep waiting to see the Chad who plays Enlisted or War Thunder.
Krial16-Jul-21 02:31 PM
War thunder is common
I just look forward to seeing old rpg gems
I try to befriend those ppl immediately
Btw
What we doin with furniture
We got 2
Not including based mu
Or are we just letting them camp out now speaking mostly towards durandus
June16-Jul-21 02:33 PM
telling them every once in awhile to buy hardware
Krial16-Jul-21 02:33 PM
Fair deal
Distoibed16-Jul-21 02:34 PM
I made the role so that deskies don't get insta kicked
but since it's [current year] people expect that everybody has VR
Krial16-Jul-21 02:54 PM
That’s fine
Krial
I cringe openly when ppl are like “oh battle field 4”
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<316-Jul-21 04:29 PM
i personally dont like battlefield 4 but you do realize its 8 years old at this point
not really zoomer shit
Krial16-Jul-21 04:33 PM
Zoomer shit
Krial
Zoomer shit
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<316-Jul-21 04:35 PM
you play league
Krial16-Jul-21 04:35 PM
Yes
1
Mumu from NYC16-Jul-21 04:38 PM
die leauger
2
Krial
We have @Black Lily anywyas. They remember everything about everyone ever
A quasi-stable reaction that if unbalanced could kill millions
It's a nuclear reactor
Futanari17-Jul-21 12:44 AM
Good
Kill us all
/u/GemManBad17-Jul-21 12:44 AM
Specifically its a plutonium test reactor in a university, this is only a baby compared to the actual ones
Futanari18-Jul-21 01:12 AM
Im going through a break up so ill be a little bit active for a while til i fix myself up
2
Black Lily18-Jul-21 04:25 AM
Don't worry about the discord, take care of yourself first
./a.out18-Jul-21 04:58 AM
Just a heads up, that Ivy person is runnin around the meetup lookin for people to vouch for him in the discord, so he's prolly gonna make another attempt to get in. He didnt realize i was a mod and was asking me, and i was able to get him to admit he doesnt use 4chan and was being spoonfed
Black Lily18-Jul-21 05:03 AM
Hilarious
Distoibed18-Jul-21 05:25 AM
Should I start keeping a list of people who have failed the welcome
so that we don't accidentally let them in at a later time?
Black Lily18-Jul-21 05:25 AM
I just add notes on people
Pineapples18-Jul-21 05:27 AM
Might not be a bad idea. People join pretty frequently, so it can be tricky to recognise people who've been turned away. I did recognise Ivy from having tried to join multiple times recently, and others will make it obvious from what they say when they try again, but it'd be easy to miss one.
Notes would be fine, but then everyone has to do that individually.
Black Lily18-Jul-21 05:28 AM
I don't think they were asked about any boards though
Just kicked because of lewd market posts
Black Lily18-Jul-21 05:36 AM
I have about a hour left in my shift I can interview them after if somone doesn't get to it first
Mumu from NYC18-Jul-21 05:37 AM
lmfao
Black Lily18-Jul-21 05:37 AM
If anyone does ask them if they know what sage means and other general 4chan knowledge like that
Distoibed18-Jul-21 05:37 AM
ohye
this is like the 3rd time this fucker joined
Black Lily18-Jul-21 05:38 AM
I've been told someone asked them that boards they browsed at the meetup
And they said /vrg/
🔇18-Jul-21 06:22 AM
uhh, ivy just tried to beg me to join the discord in vrc, also poor @/u/GemManBad lolol.
they basically admitted to not going onto 4c at all, and said "i posed in the forum a few days ago"
Black Lily18-Jul-21 06:25 AM
>forum
Rak dmed me to vouch for them
🔇18-Jul-21 06:25 AM
hahaha
Distoibed18-Jul-21 06:27 AM
all the more reason to not let him in
/u/GemManBad18-Jul-21 06:27 AM
I got the ass end of it, i was talking to them and they said they was in the old discord. I said i didn't know them till phossu was like 'yes you do, they posted that index deluxe audio strap mod to the thread and have been around for a couple years'. So i was like aight okay, and they asked which discord it was and i gave them the url. I would regret this as they didnt what the thread number was.(edited)
Distoibed18-Jul-21 06:28 AM
so, phossu was being a retard then?
/u/GemManBad18-Jul-21 06:29 AM
Time goes on, find out why dot kicked them originally, learn that krial and others also dont want them in and i dont want to be in the cross fire
🔇18-Jul-21 06:29 AM
phossu is a bad judge of people for being 4chan or not
Black Lily18-Jul-21 06:30 AM
Phossu is just nice
/u/GemManBad18-Jul-21 06:30 AM
Too be fair phossu is not being a dumbass, he has been around 2 years, but he was told to use the thread and only the thread. They only go on our thread and knows nothing of 4chan outside of it(edited)
Tldr, he is a spoonfed, just an old spoonfed
Black Lily18-Jul-21 06:31 AM
I'm planning to ask him questions like "If I wanted to talk to autists about d&d what board would I go to"
/u/GemManBad18-Jul-21 06:32 AM
He straight up wouldn't know
Ive already asked that in game after i gave him the link
Black Lily18-Jul-21 06:32 AM
I'm aware
I want everyone to see that he doesn't belong
/u/GemManBad18-Jul-21 06:33 AM
Aight
Distoibed18-Jul-21 06:36 AM
Should I make the spreadsheet editable, or should people tag me with details of the denied person?
Black Lily18-Jul-21 06:42 AM
We could have a channel for that under welcome if you guys think it's important
Also my expectations were low and I'm still disappointed
Black Lily
We could have a channel for that under welcome if you guys think it's important
Distoibed18-Jul-21 06:45 AM
oh...
Pineapples18-Jul-21 06:46 AM
I guess a channel would make it easier since there's no need to go to an external site.
Just gotta make sure it's nothing but posts listing info like that.
Distoibed18-Jul-21 06:47 AM
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
tried making the channel but I'm super retarded
Pineapples18-Jul-21 07:01 AM
Man, this guy is desperate to get in but doesn't even seem to realise the issue.
Black Lily18-Jul-21 07:07 AM
He doesn't even know where he is
Krial18-Jul-21 07:15 AM
Channel is easy
He’s also shockingly wasted
He literally followed me and asylum for like 30 minutes
Begging to the point of awkward. It was bad.
Hopefully they’ll be embarrassed and fuck off by the morning.
Krial
Begging to the point of awkward. It was bad.
Distoibed18-Jul-21 07:16 AM
so, you denied him and he just kept pleading?
Krial18-Jul-21 07:17 AM
We told em we’d handle it tomorrow and appreciated his earnest
And he KEPT GOING. constantly.
Black Lily18-Jul-21 07:20 AM
I'm most likely going to ban them
./a.out18-Jul-21 07:48 AM
Yea, i told him I'd think about it after he gave me his shpiel for like 15 minutes, and it just made him reset and start repeating everything he just told me. Some other folks noticed and got me away by yelling "Shots!"
According to him, he thinks the main reason he's unaccepted is because he's a tda
I can try and add a feature to the bot to detect when someone's kicked/banned and automatically puts their info in the logging channel
ExecutiveJackbotBOT18-Jul-21 07:49 AM
I'm crying RN
🔇18-Jul-21 07:50 AM
Dyno does that already onion.
./a.out18-Jul-21 07:50 AM
I meant for the new channel where we log the reason they got kicked/banned
🔇18-Jul-21 07:50 AM
Oh.
./a.out18-Jul-21 07:51 AM
Saves a little bit of manual typing to keep track of these peeps
I think Distoibed made it then locked himself out of it
Because discord still lets you do that for some reason
🔇18-Jul-21 11:59 PM
#actions isnt for telling people they were muted
its for kicks/bans
people can talk in #retard-coliseum when muted
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes19-Jul-21 12:16 AM
isn't it for just saying why an action was taken
🔇19-Jul-21 12:24 AM
because muting people is gay and we dont care about those people
Black Lily19-Jul-21 12:27 AM
It's for big shit like bans/kicks
Channels and such
Krial19-Jul-21 12:29 AM
Ye
Futanari19-Jul-21 12:30 AM
Just
ExecutiveJackbotBOT19-Jul-21 12:31 AM
I'm crying RN
Futanari19-Jul-21 12:31 AM
Thnx
ExecutiveJackbotBOT19-Jul-21 12:32 AM
I'm crying RN
Futanari19-Jul-21 12:34 AM
Goddammit
No pressure
Black Lily19-Jul-21 12:44 AM
I kinda want to explain to them why they're never going to get in
But I should probably just ban them instead
🔇
did you lock it for everyone except admins? lol
Distoibed19-Jul-21 12:47 AM
Yes fugged up
Black Lily
I kinda want to explain to them why they're never going to get in
Krial19-Jul-21 01:02 AM
who ivy?
nah just ban and leave alone
otherwise theyre going ot take whatever you say as "instructions"
and shit up the thread and meets
Futanari19-Jul-21 01:02 AM
Waaaaaa
Just bully them for being trans
Easy
Krial19-Jul-21 01:03 AM
supposedly they arent even
just sound like one
Futanari19-Jul-21 01:03 AM
Dont care
Women dont exist
Ever
Krial19-Jul-21 01:04 AM
oh no its a guy.
its 100% a guy.
ExecutiveJackbotBOT19-Jul-21 01:04 AM
Das racist... wait no it's not
Futanari19-Jul-21 01:04 AM
Dont care
Women dont exist on the internet
Krial
who ivy?
Black Lily19-Jul-21 01:06 AM
Yes ivy
Krial19-Jul-21 01:07 AM
oh i think they're talking about the new guy who sperg'd in nsfw chat
Black Lily19-Jul-21 01:08 AM
Rayoko?
Krial19-Jul-21 01:08 AM
ye
Black Lily19-Jul-21 01:08 AM
They seemed alright
I talked to them a little when I was taking a shit
Krial19-Jul-21 01:09 AM
Yeah, I got no problem w/ em. Shit talking people randomly when you just join is kinda dumb but people do worse constantly and aren't muted for it
I think doing so when you dont really know anyone is kinda dumb and definitely influences it though
Black Lily19-Jul-21 01:10 AM
If someone leaves because of that then they don't belong here
Futanari19-Jul-21 01:11 AM
Talking about cocks size
ExecutiveJackbotBOT19-Jul-21 01:11 AM
Das racist... wait no it's not
Black Lily19-Jul-21 01:30 AM
They spurged because of shortstacks
Brainy19-Jul-21 02:49 AM
Yeah I mean if it were me I'd make a sheet with two fields, Discord and VRChat, then populate it with usernames (including any alts), along with reasons as to why that person is not allowed at meetups and/or on the Discord.
Then if you ever have someone join you're unsure about you can always cross-check that sheet by doing a search and see if anything matches.
Then you could add known Discord/VRChat alt accounts to the list too. The notes could be something like, "banned for underage, banned everywhere" or "spoonfed, don't allow on Discord", etc.
Black Lily19-Jul-21 03:00 AM
We can't control meetups nor should we try to
Black Lily
We can't control meetups nor should we try to
Krial19-Jul-21 03:06 AM
vote kick exists for people being spergs or randoms
Dal29019-Jul-21 04:25 AM
I think there is a minor influence on how the discord interacts with the meetups, its an early strike kind of deal
Obviously anybody with a brain gets if they get banned from the /vrg/ discord they are by all means still allowed to join meetups/chill/ect
If we would have early striked bullshit like we are doing now upon hearing "they have a huge history of shitting things up" we wouldn't have half the shit we are dealing with right now
🔇19-Jul-21 04:26 AM
Poor tiger, he’s retarded.
Dal29019-Jul-21 04:26 AM
Haha yeah, it does help filter the stupid, but early on if we can blast idiots who don't get /vrg/ isn't a discord, shit works and we can help filter
Brainy19-Jul-21 08:04 AM
Yeah I wouldn't advise it for everyone as someone being kicked from the Discord shouldn't mean they are kicked from the meetup. But sometimes there is essential information that can overlap. I only bring it up so there's a written record somewhere if it's ever needed. The only time I'd see it being necessary to kick from the meetup would be like that one Ivan person we kicked recently (also the only reason I suggested this before).(edited)
Stannic19-Jul-21 08:56 AM
imo if they treat discord equivalent to the thread or meetup then it helps filter out those who will only use the discord and never the thread despite the thread's quality at times
🔇
#actions isnt for telling people they were muted
Eric19-Jul-21 09:29 AM
my bad
Brainy20-Jul-21 12:18 AM
I'm so proud of all we've accomplished just in the short amount of time since the server was rebooted.
Both with the numbers of people chatting now and also with how efficient we've been removing anything bannable.
Futanari20-Jul-21 12:22 AM
Shut up
Brainy20-Jul-21 12:37 AM
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes20-Jul-21 12:47 AM
failure
Brainy20-Jul-21 12:48 AM
Wait those are from today
ExecutiveJackbotBOT20-Jul-21 12:54 AM
Das racist
Stannic20-Jul-21 12:54 AM
DAS RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITE
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes20-Jul-21 12:54 AM
7/7/2021
Futanari20-Jul-21 12:54 AM
Yes
We are doomed
Hahahahaha
Pineapples20-Jul-21 12:55 AM
I'm surprised no one has checked the search results yet and made a fuss about messages being deleted.
It's bound to happen eventually.
Pineapples
It's bound to happen eventually.
Brainy20-Jul-21 01:01 AM
I feel like nobody will notice or care. But you're right, it's only a matter of time before that one person notices and throws a fit about it, predictably.
Did Carl actually get Corona?
Also I'm seeing a lot of older stuff from two weeks ago that should be getting sweeped by the bot. Does it only look back X number of days?
Pineapples20-Jul-21 01:03 AM
People sometimes like to go and check the counts on various slurs. It's not often, but there have already been several times it's happened.
Brainy20-Jul-21 01:06 AM
I'll just say Discord did it fufufu
Technically true
They're the only reason we're having to delete anything.(edited)
Check this out.
Someone explain this black magic to me.
There's no text mention of the word in there.
Only a thumbnail auto-generated of the .mp4.
But the thumbnail contains the word.
Unless I'm missing something, it's like they have image recognition identifying it.
OCR would be possible as an automated process connected to generating the thumbnail.
Typically this is done to detect porn or CSAM.
But in this case Discord may be designing it to detect "bad words" as well?
Anyone able to disprove this and find some other text mention of the word in that post I'm not seeing?
go find another video that has the word in the description
if so then it's pulling a lot of data off of youtube's video for things(edited)
Brainy20-Jul-21 01:58 AM
Oh that's a clever find, I didn't even think to check the YouTube description. Interesting if they're pulling that information as well since it's not embedded/displayed. Either way it's a lot of information being collected without being surfaced to users for seemingly only T&S purposes.(edited)
Stannic20-Jul-21 02:23 AM
eh i can see bots using it too(edited)
since it might be taking a lot of information for people to use in their bots
and a lot easier to remove shit one by one if it violates something and keeps their userbase happy
Brainy20-Jul-21 02:35 AM
I don't see it publicized anywhere though and that's a very edge case to develop around without having any supporting documentation?
That doesn't mean it couldn't be on the way though.
Stannic20-Jul-21 02:40 AM
or programmers lazy
easier to wildcard then do specifics
and then you can get happy little accidents(edited)
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes
Click to see attachment🖼️
June20-Jul-21 02:53 AM
bots doing a full sweep it will get them
Perrine20-Jul-21 12:55 PM
Most of that embedding information is either from the webpage/api being used, or metadata in the file itself
theres not a long time for carl to learn that hes retarded(edited)
Distoibed21-Jul-21 12:08 PM
if you're gonna mute him for being himself you can kick him and let him shit up the thread again
Eric21-Jul-21 12:08 PM
naw i read thread
@Distoibed btw the 10 minute timer starts on his last message
lets see how long he'll keep himself muted
@Distoibed
Distoibed21-Jul-21 12:12 PM
Futanari21-Jul-21 12:56 PM
he changed his name
Eric21-Jul-21 01:04 PM
his name was always that
Futanari21-Jul-21 01:34 PM
Im retarded
Black Lily21-Jul-21 08:10 PM
Should we really keep letting carl come back though
He'll just do the same thing over and over
Like Tiger he always thinks he's done nothing wrong and people are just out to get him
Perrine21-Jul-21 08:19 PM
:sleep:
Why doesn't that emote work
Fucking mobile
Black Lily21-Jul-21 08:20 PM
🔇21-Jul-21 08:21 PM
Just don’t be gay
And Carl is fine, people need to stop being autistic and muting him at the drop of a hat tho.
Krial21-Jul-21 08:22 PM
Truthfully did Carl do anything wrong
Other than being racist in a no rules 4chan channel
🔇21-Jul-21 08:24 PM
People don’t talk to him and mute him. Then he leaves.
Dal29021-Jul-21 08:26 PM
I think in this situation the self filtering is what should do the trick
People having the ability to bantz somebody and test if they should be here is important, gag ordering others and making them play nice dries shit up or makes them do alternative stuff like spamming channels when they drop by.
🔇21-Jul-21 08:47 PM
Also:
Krial21-Jul-21 08:48 PM
Lmao eva
I don’t hate eva but I think I’m alone in that sentiment lol
Black Lily21-Jul-21 08:51 PM
He lives to piss people off
June21-Jul-21 09:01 PM
hes fine, but I also dont like him because he keeps replying to me
Black Lily21-Jul-21 09:11 PM
Kinda weird that discord doesn't have an option to disable replies
1
Brainy21-Jul-21 09:35 PM
I don't mind Carl, I just sweep up after him.
Black Lily
Kinda weird that discord doesn't have an option to disable replies
June21-Jul-21 10:07 PM
god I'd kill for that just for eva
then I wouldnt care about him at all, unless he changed
/u/GemManBad21-Jul-21 10:17 PM
Controversial opinion, we dont do too much for Christmas this year. Just a toast or something.
Azuth21-Jul-21 10:18 PM
I think that's out of our hands, unless you wanna talk to Yuki about it too
/u/GemManBad21-Jul-21 10:18 PM
That's a solid point
I mean what we did last year, a ping to everyone and a few speeches in vrc was very nice
Tear jerking
Bit early to think about it but i want actual christmas day to be just straight chill
June21-Jul-21 10:21 PM
I have a fuck load of time off during christmas
I would like to chill the whole time with vrg
but I want chill not SS stress and cringe events
Azuth21-Jul-21 10:22 PM
that's something I both love and am nervous about this year
events seem to have been dialed up to 11
Azuth
events seem to have been dialed up to 11
Krial21-Jul-21 10:23 PM
;-;
Events are fun tho
Azuth21-Jul-21 10:23 PM
they are
but not everything has to have hundreds of hours poured into it like the play, idol festival, and sports fest so far
June21-Jul-21 10:24 PM
its almost year 3/4 for some of us christmas is the most tiring one imo(edited)
Azuth21-Jul-21 10:24 PM
virtame seems to be going the same way too
June
its almost year 3/4 for some of us christmas is the most tiring one imo (edited)
Azuth21-Jul-21 10:24 PM
Dec 27th will be /vrg/'s 4th anniversary
June21-Jul-21 10:24 PM
yep...
its got me fucked up
4 god damn years
Krial21-Jul-21 10:25 PM
40 more
/u/GemManBad21-Jul-21 10:25 PM
Events are fun, but Christmas is a time for family, you guys
/u/GemManBad
Events are fun, but Christmas is a time for family, you guys
June21-Jul-21 10:25 PM
damn right brother
Krial21-Jul-21 10:25 PM
I will be silent about my upcoming events
June21-Jul-21 10:26 PM
I'll have to give you a virtual hug this year, but I hope soon
/u/GemManBad21-Jul-21 10:26 PM
We got bloody Halloween yet anyways, Halloween is always spectacular
Krial21-Jul-21 10:26 PM
I can say I wasn’t going to do shit for Christmas
Idk who is
June21-Jul-21 10:26 PM
halloween is always a favorite time of year for me
Black Lily21-Jul-21 10:26 PM
I want secret santa in July
Azuth21-Jul-21 10:26 PM
it's usually yuki's crew who do christmas
Krial21-Jul-21 10:26 PM
God damnit
/u/GemManBad21-Jul-21 10:26 PM
Exoskeleton skeleton, fucking hilarious
June21-Jul-21 10:26 PM
rainy overcast windy
Krial21-Jul-21 10:26 PM
Lol
SOS BRIGADE PRESENTS: CHRISTMAS
June21-Jul-21 10:26 PM
god it makes me so comfy to my soul
yeah I'm good
Krial21-Jul-21 10:27 PM
they do a lot but god damn is it kinda
Black Lily21-Jul-21 10:27 PM
Can we have Halloween for three months?
Krial21-Jul-21 10:27 PM
Just
Azuth21-Jul-21 10:27 PM
halloween is the only thing preventing christmas from eating up more of the year
June21-Jul-21 10:27 PM
true dat
god I cant wait
Krial21-Jul-21 10:28 PM
Trick or treating event when
Azuth21-Jul-21 10:28 PM
that'd be fun
/u/GemManBad21-Jul-21 10:28 PM
As soon as its December, go crazy go stupid. Any sooner and ill melt.
June21-Jul-21 10:28 PM
ya know I might be able to come up with something
will have to not talk about it though
hardest thing for me
/u/GemManBad21-Jul-21 10:28 PM
We do a costume contest, but i think we'll have to stream that
Last time it was full and fucked
June21-Jul-21 10:29 PM
lavender baby
hell me and cas might have the new outfit system done by then
Black Lily21-Jul-21 10:31 PM
Encourage people to make worlds and we visit them one by one on Halloween
June21-Jul-21 10:31 PM
that could work
have a portal chain between them
enter one, exit portal only to next one
final one goes to a larger meetup one
Black Lily21-Jul-21 10:32 PM
Or a starting hub map that loops back
/u/GemManBad21-Jul-21 10:33 PM
Hour/30 min each depending on how many we get, easily doable(edited)
Mentle, duznot and a few others atleast will make one almost guaranteed
Black Lily21-Jul-21 10:34 PM
Zip has been working on a Nightmare before Christmas map for a while
/u/GemManBad21-Jul-21 10:34 PM
Oh?
Any pics?
Black Lily21-Jul-21 10:35 PM
No
It's Jack's house
June21-Jul-21 10:35 PM
yo thats dope
got the swirly-ness of the geo down?
Black Lily21-Jul-21 10:41 PM
It's not that far along yet
June21-Jul-21 10:41 PM
ah I see
Black Lily21-Jul-21 10:42 PM
Still trying to fix up the two halves of the mesh
He had to ninjarip it from the ps2 game
Azuth
virtame seems to be going the same way too
Stannic21-Jul-21 10:45 PM
virtame is killing me
i'm going to drink and puke my guts out(edited)
Azuth21-Jul-21 11:06 PM
that was me after the idol contest
4 bottles of wine
and a few shots
🔇21-Jul-21 11:21 PM
im usually in charge of the actual presents for ss, I can just tell yuki no gifts this year
Azuth21-Jul-21 11:22 PM
I dunno if that's necessary, SS is a voluntary event each year
those who don't want to simply don't sign up
🔇21-Jul-21 11:22 PM
the no money/gift cards thing is my own rule anyways.
Azuth21-Jul-21 11:22 PM
oh you mean like no actual gifts, assets only
🔇21-Jul-21 11:23 PM
assets or hand made cards
something that would take like an hour to make or so
instead theres people that make it this weird competition and put in several hundred hours
Krial21-Jul-21 11:29 PM
I mean I don’t think making it a competition is a good idea
But I wanna ball out for friends sometimes and it’s a good excuse
Lol
June21-Jul-21 11:31 PM
lets just do a informal gift giving opt in night
Dal29021-Jul-21 11:31 PM
Sorry sweaty I am buying one of you a gift
June21-Jul-21 11:31 PM
santa night with known people and known gifts
Dal29021-Jul-21 11:31 PM
IT WILL BE A FEW HUNDRED DOLLARS
AND I WILL BE SENDING IT ANONYMOUSLY YET HEAVILY HINTING AT WHO SENT IT
June21-Jul-21 11:32 PM
lol
I always textured in my logo really subtly
first one didnt know though
Krial21-Jul-21 11:53 PM
Yeah I’m 100% buying a gift
Subtly
/u/GemManBad21-Jul-21 11:58 PM
How am i not surprised
June22-Jul-21 12:02 AM
god damn
/u/GemManBad22-Jul-21 12:10 AM
Man single handedly pays for 1/2 the boosts of this server
Krial22-Jul-21 12:12 AM
Stfu
Liar
Do not(edited)
/u/GemManBad22-Jul-21 12:15 AM
Someone should take your credit card away from you sometimes man
Black Lily22-Jul-21 12:25 AM
@Krial can you buy ZipZoop and I a house
Krial22-Jul-21 12:25 AM
Lmao no
I can hook u up with a good realtor tho
Azuth22-Jul-21 12:33 AM
if you guys wanna move to washington I might be selling soon
Azuth
if you guys wanna move to washington I might be selling soon
Dal29022-Jul-21 12:42 AM
DONT LEAVE ME NOOO
Azuth22-Jul-21 01:07 AM
nah if anything I'd be moving closer
Dal29022-Jul-21 01:08 AM
Oh shit
Black Lily22-Jul-21 01:13 AM
I don't wanna get any closer to California
Azuth22-Jul-21 01:14 AM
understandable
🔇
the no money/gift cards thing is my own rule anyways.
Stannic22-Jul-21 01:22 AM
lemme emulate vcd and give a shit gift again
Stannic
lemme emulate vcd and give a shit gift again
🔇22-Jul-21 01:23 AM
he didnt give a shit gift, he gave a malicious gift
Stannic22-Jul-21 01:23 AM
what was it again
a crasher?
🔇22-Jul-21 01:23 AM
a ball of 4m verts
Stannic22-Jul-21 01:23 AM
oh
lol
🔇22-Jul-21 01:23 AM
crashes blender
Stannic22-Jul-21 01:23 AM
glad hes gone
ExecutiveJackbotBOT22-Jul-21 01:23 AM
Das racist... wait no it's not
Stannic22-Jul-21 01:24 AM
oh wow
ExecutiveJackbotBOT22-Jul-21 01:24 AM
GAMER???
Black Lily22-Jul-21 01:25 AM
He's not gone
And I miss him
Stannic22-Jul-21 01:27 AM
I'm guessing he found his own group?
Black Lily22-Jul-21 01:27 AM
He's in dals workshop discord
Stannic22-Jul-21 01:32 AM
Oh i see it lmao
hakke
Black Lily22-Jul-21 01:34 AM
VCD is a good man
Stannic22-Jul-21 01:36 AM
i've had negative experiences with him to the point of maliciousness
Black Lily22-Jul-21 01:36 AM
I only ever talk to him about ripping from games
Stannic22-Jul-21 01:37 AM
he was good at that part yeah
his social skills on the other hand was like talking to an absolute egotistic asshole
he was genuinely helpful when it came to it that i brushed off the abrasiveness but god damn outside of that i wanted to stay away
but like everyone else, ymmv
Black Lily22-Jul-21 01:42 AM
I always had a good time
Stannic22-Jul-21 01:43 AM
o well
Dal29022-Jul-21 02:50 AM
Cool dude got a job so he is busy workin lately
Azuth
nah if anything I'd be moving closer
June22-Jul-21 03:27 AM
Fuck yeah
Futanari23-Jul-21 12:16 AM
Mods
Eric23-Jul-21 01:49 AM
@mod whoever this alt shit is
its still joining
Dal29023-Jul-21 01:50 AM
I hang around, I can just keep banning them lol
Pineapples23-Jul-21 01:51 AM
I don't even see a way to ban them on mobile without searching through the member list. Fucking discord.
Pineapples
I don't even see a way to ban them on mobile without searching through the member list. Fucking discord.
Distoibed23-Jul-21 01:54 AM
Yep, just banned him through phone, and it was dumb
Dal29023-Jul-21 01:55 AM
If whoever did that only has like five of them
I am severely disappointed
Distoibed23-Jul-21 01:59 AM
If you ban them, you also ban their ips(edited)
Dal29023-Jul-21 02:24 AM
@Distoibed
Pineapples23-Jul-21 02:33 AM
Could a bot be quickly set up to autoban anyone with "discordgate" in their name?
Or would that be too much work to bother with?
Dal29023-Jul-21 02:58 AM
It could be set up
Brainy23-Jul-21 04:31 AM
Not too much work, what's going on?
🔇23-Jul-21 04:33 AM
Just check the audit log and you’ll see.
Pineapples23-Jul-21 04:33 AM
I assume it was some kind of spam bot. Seems to have stopped now.
Brainy23-Jul-21 04:34 AM
There's a bot I could invite to take care of that sort of eventuality, but you'd want to limit it to just #welcome and not the rest of the server.
Highly customizable Community Management bot, provides advanced moderation tools, advanced role assignment, user verification, powerful antispam and much more. Comes with cookies!
It's this bot.
This will immediately ban users with Discord invites, twitch, youtube or other links in their username.This will also ban if users with identical usernames join within a short time period.(edited)
It has options to limit join-rate by kicking (or ban for 1h?) people if more than X users join in X seconds you define. The bot will also DM kicked/banned people informing them about what's happening so they can rejoin later in the event they are humans.
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes23-Jul-21 03:37 PM
/u/GemManBad23-Jul-21 04:25 PM
These bots seem to be a new exploit, discordgate maybe a movement to fuck over discord servers by rapidly creating bots and making them join as many severs as possible, custom invite urls would make it even easier
Solutions
1. Ignore it, discord could fix this themselves being as alot of other servers are getting hit
2. Filter it, they all have 'discordgate' at the end of their names so we could get a bot to auto ban accounts with that in their name
@mod
./a.out23-Jul-21 05:04 PM
I can set that up in my bot rather quickly once i wake up from this nap
@mod
Okay, so i did some digging.
Found the server they are coming from its 'discord.gg/dcgate'
This server then links too the actual server with the people responsible, which is an LGBT activist server with the link 'discord.gg/motionontop'
I asked what was up with the bots and it seems to be a 'friendly gesture to increase member count', naturally i pinged the mods asking what's up with the bots and the just replied "no fuck off" and got banned
So if someone could join the 'motionontop' server and lurk to see what's going on that'd be great.
Futanari23-Jul-21 06:34 PM
Jej
/u/GemManBad23-Jul-21 06:34 PM
Futanari23-Jul-21 06:39 PM
What?
Why?
Whats the fucking point?
I feel like its fake ass fuck honestly
Gather info and shit
Black Lily23-Jul-21 06:42 PM
Futanari23-Jul-21 06:43 PM
Hot
/u/GemManBad23-Jul-21 06:53 PM
Futanari23-Jul-21 06:53 PM
Welp
/u/GemManBad23-Jul-21 06:53 PM
Futanari23-Jul-21 06:54 PM
Ah so a scam
Yeah cool
This is cringe
How lonely do you have to be to make fake people in a discord
/u/GemManBad23-Jul-21 06:57 PM
People running the show
@./a.out this might be nothing special, just a tool to raid servers with bots. If you can setup the auto ban then go ahead but dont prioritize it
The LGBT server is using this tool to bump their server count by linking to a proxy server in the bots, main server stays up while the proxy takes the bullet for bot spamming. clever but bloody annoying.(edited)
Futanari23-Jul-21 07:03 PM
Report it lmao
/u/GemManBad23-Jul-21 07:10 PM
How the fuck you report a server
Distoibed23-Jul-21 07:11 PM
write a mail to discord ev team
Brainy23-Jul-21 07:26 PM
Just use the bot I linked earlier and it won't be a problem
Futanari23-Jul-21 07:30 PM
Hacker mans
Brainy23-Jul-21 07:31 PM
Also it's basically viewbotting, but for Discord. It's so people can inflate their server numbers to get through the automated Partnership process.
Which is why they're selling the service.
Report it to Discord as selling Discord services (it's what it falls under).
Black Lily23-Jul-21 10:02 PM
Kinda weird discord doesn't automatically detect something like this
But they still haven't figured out how to auto filter slurs
Brainy24-Jul-21 01:47 AM
Discord T&S is garbage
Literally every big server has to rely on third-party bot solutions because of how inept Discord is at designing adequate moderation tools
Krial24-Jul-21 09:12 AM
That’s either an alt, or a 100% coomer trash denizen.
Black Lily24-Jul-21 09:13 AM
He could be nice
Krial24-Jul-21 09:13 AM
“It’s a joke name tho xd”
He’s not sperging. That’s all I’ll say good tho.
If he says xiv
I’d give my stamp of ok if he got on his main discord and not a throwaway.
I think. Idk. @Black Lily what do you think.
@Distoibed
Thoughts on that?
If he’s even got a main acc.
Distoibed24-Jul-21 09:20 AM
yeah
not to keen on alts
Krial24-Jul-21 09:21 AM
I think it’s fair.
Distoibed24-Jul-21 09:21 AM
he's alright
Krial24-Jul-21 09:21 AM
Other than that and his name
Seems fine
I’ll propose it
Distoibed24-Jul-21 09:21 AM
I mean
we also had a guy in here who's name was "animalfetishists" or something
but he's just a german dude who filters people with his name
Krial24-Jul-21 09:22 AM
Yeah. Fair deal
I’ll pick his brain
Black Lily24-Jul-21 09:22 AM
I don't care that much about an alt unless their main is already in here
He seems fine
I want the monkey man
Distoibed24-Jul-21 09:24 AM
yeah
Krial24-Jul-21 09:24 AM
Irl reasons are totally fine with me
Idc but I see how others may
Seems mentally sound and put up with us badgering him so sure
Why not
Perrine24-Jul-21 09:30 AM
What a world we live in, where you sell flooding services to flood yourself
Black Lily24-Jul-21 09:32 AM
It's a quick way to get your discord banned(edited)
Krial24-Jul-21 09:35 AM
@Black Lily
Dunno if there’s any truth to it
Black Lily24-Jul-21 09:37 AM
Discord implemented a new feature that lets you make an account without attaching an email to it
When you log out of it you lose the account unless you attach and verify it
Krial24-Jul-21 09:37 AM
I’ll take him at his word that his shit may get banned or whatever.
Black Lily24-Jul-21 09:38 AM
That's probably what he used
Krial24-Jul-21 09:38 AM
It’s not a big deal to me idc.
He sent me his special “code”
Black Lily24-Jul-21 09:38 AM
Can just post it here
Krial24-Jul-21 09:39 AM
Black Lily24-Jul-21 09:39 AM
That's funny
I like it
Krial24-Jul-21 09:39 AM
Yeah same actually. Lol
Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.
Black Lily24-Jul-21 09:39 AM
Pinned a message.
Distoibed24-Jul-21 09:39 AM
I don't think a codework is that needed
since I don't think any1 in here will be like
"Hey I'm wallkicker"
but I like his autism
Black Lily24-Jul-21 09:42 AM
He could just go through the interview again
Black Lily24-Jul-21 09:05 PM
@Krial remember not to respond to shitposts
Black Lily
@Krial remember not to respond to shitposts
Krial24-Jul-21 09:12 PM
Fair.
Black Lily24-Jul-21 09:13 PM
Criticize them for not having the balls to talk shit here if anything
Krial24-Jul-21 09:14 PM
It’s clearly someone who doesn’t even know we name swapped lol
Black Lily24-Jul-21 09:14 PM
I'm 90% sure I know who it is but it doesn't matter anyway
Krial24-Jul-21 09:17 PM
Yeah, it’s just schitzo behavior
June24-Jul-21 09:33 PM
Don't take the bait
Perrine24-Jul-21 11:24 PM
Don't fall for bait
🔇24-Jul-21 11:36 PM
what did I miss?
Futanari24-Jul-21 11:42 PM
Uhhhh
Shitposters
🔇
what did I miss?
Black Lily24-Jul-21 11:59 PM
Not much, I noticed Krial responded to some shitposts in the thread
im not letting in another retard who straight up just harasses one guy
Perrine25-Jul-21 05:01 PM
Oh?
Eric25-Jul-21 05:01 PM
cab is extremely unfunny
Mumu from NYC25-Jul-21 05:04 PM
hes fine
Eric25-Jul-21 05:04 PM
he literally harasses one dude
nope
Distoibed25-Jul-21 05:09 PM
sounds like you're letting your own opinions overrule your judgement
Eric25-Jul-21 05:10 PM
that isnt an opinion, its a fact that cab constantly harasses wired
Distoibed25-Jul-21 05:10 PM
'cab is extremely unfunny'
I mean, I could also throw another dude in this discord under the bus cus he has harassed a vrg member on multiple platforms
Eric25-Jul-21 05:11 PM
go ahead
yuru isnt here we shouldnt be condoning complete retards
ones who just cause problems constantly
June25-Jul-21 05:24 PM
@mod
I dont care one way or another with CAB but you guys need to make a decision
@here
#welcome
Stannic25-Jul-21 05:26 PM
all i remember are his melties and him constantly trying to pick something with meeps and wired
Eric25-Jul-21 05:26 PM
yep
Brainy25-Jul-21 05:26 PM
I remember Cute Anime Boy. This his alt?
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<325-Jul-21 05:26 PM
id say no because adding drama is a bad idea
Eric25-Jul-21 05:26 PM
why keep a guy in like that
Brainy
I remember Cute Anime Boy. This his alt?
June25-Jul-21 05:26 PM
yep
Brainy25-Jul-21 05:26 PM
I know he singled out one person in the past. Has he promised not to do that anymore?
Stannic25-Jul-21 05:26 PM
look at his name
It's a definite no
Brainy
I know he singled out one person in the past. Has he promised not to do that anymore?
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<325-Jul-21 05:26 PM
promises are meaningless anyways
Brainy25-Jul-21 05:27 PM
Wired was the person he harassed before?
Stannic25-Jul-21 05:27 PM
he'll lie with a shit eating grin if it means he can get in
wired and then meeps
which meeps constantly had to put him down until he was placed in time out then ban
Brainy25-Jul-21 05:27 PM
Yeah I'm going to say deny just based on the name. Thanks for pointing it out. I only remembered this from the thread back in the day.
So I forgot a lot of the details.
./a.out25-Jul-21 05:28 PM
Im on the side of 'no'
Stannic25-Jul-21 05:28 PM
knowing his track record he likes to play with the boundaries in general chat
Brainy25-Jul-21 05:28 PM
It sucks because I always liked him and I'd like to see him come back. But I don't think he's changed or is making a legitimate appeal.
Stannic25-Jul-21 05:28 PM
and then makes a big fuss about it
Brainy25-Jul-21 05:28 PM
Which is pretty sad.
Eric25-Jul-21 05:28 PM
he can stick to the thread likes hes been for the longest
and i can continue to use my brain to filter his posts
constant problems man
absolutely no reason to keep him
Distoibed25-Jul-21 05:29 PM
idc if you're gonna decline him or not, but I want to see consistency and no friend shit
no "he's cringe, so no" while other "cringe" people get access
Dal29025-Jul-21 05:29 PM
I'd think disapproving of shitposting or being rent free about bullshit is the best route so fuck em
June25-Jul-21 05:29 PM
yeah I just ignore all of this, I muted him at the dance event too
Stannic25-Jul-21 05:29 PM
he comes to bring drama so that's a no
Stannic
he comes to bring drama so that's a no
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<325-Jul-21 05:29 PM
Distoibed25-Jul-21 05:29 PM
eva...
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<325-Jul-21 05:30 PM
idk y eva is here either
Brainy25-Jul-21 05:30 PM
I'm not denying based on "cringe" or anything like that. If my vote counts, I'm denying purely based on him engaging in targeted harassment in the past and continuing to engage in it now just through his username. There's no indication he's making a commitment to change the behavior that got him banned.(edited)
June25-Jul-21 05:30 PM
thanks for responding, because one dude shouldnt make all the decisions
Distoibed
idc if you're gonna decline him or not, but I want to see consistency and no friend shit
no "he's cringe, so no" while other "cringe" people get access
Eric25-Jul-21 05:30 PM
workshop is now seperate tbh i have no reason to bring friends here
Stannic25-Jul-21 05:30 PM
i mean we can kick eva for all i care but that's the mod's decision
Eric25-Jul-21 05:30 PM
yeah
Stannic25-Jul-21 05:30 PM
i never accepted him in the first place and he was already here
Eric25-Jul-21 05:30 PM
i see no lost in doing that
just tell him
dont be an ass and just kick with no explanation atleast
June25-Jul-21 05:30 PM
I mean yeah, there should at least be some group say in it
for self consistency
Brainy25-Jul-21 05:31 PM
What was the situation with Eva?
Eric25-Jul-21 05:31 PM
but tbh for evas case hes just unfunny
idk if hes a problem causer
Stannic25-Jul-21 05:31 PM
Eva doesn't constantly get into timeouts
he pisses people off within boundaries
./a.out25-Jul-21 05:31 PM
Feel like we should bring back the mod-voting channel for this stuff
Unless y'all wanna use the voting channel we have
Stannic25-Jul-21 05:31 PM
so he can stay idc
Brainy25-Jul-21 05:32 PM
I personally feel for decisions like these, it's better to use a closed channel.
./a.out25-Jul-21 05:32 PM
So mod-voting
Eric25-Jul-21 05:32 PM
yeah thers a difference between cab and people like eva
Brainy25-Jul-21 05:32 PM
Otherwise you risk the decisions turning into popularity contests.
June25-Jul-21 05:32 PM
more channels for the channel god
Eric25-Jul-21 05:32 PM
as much as i want him gone hes just straight up unfunny and thats about it
Dal29025-Jul-21 05:33 PM
From a purely mod decision even the bans/kicks I have done have boiled down to how much time am i going to have to invest monitoring/cleaning up
He is going to be a problem and you know it
Eric25-Jul-21 05:33 PM
let him become a problem first
Perrine25-Jul-21 05:33 PM
I generally lean toward kicking out folks that can't stop antagonizing others. I know nothing about the specifics of this case
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Eric25-Jul-21 05:33 PM
i wouldnt futureproof a retard, thats just kinda fucked
Dal29025-Jul-21 05:33 PM
We have watched him do it plenty of times, think it's all good
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<325-Jul-21 05:33 PM
why deal with known problem causers
just get rid of them
./a.out
Feel like we should bring back the mod-voting channel for this stuff
Unless y'all wanna use the voting channel we have
Distoibed25-Jul-21 05:33 PM
I wanted #voting to be mod voting
but y'know
people didn't take it seriously
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<325-Jul-21 05:34 PM
we have no shortage of people(edited)
./a.out25-Jul-21 05:34 PM
Yeeea, thats what i was hoping it was gonna be. And then it became "tits or ass" lol
Ill make a mod-voting rq
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<325-Jul-21 05:35 PM
letting problem causers in for "inclusivity" is dumb its okay to be an asshole to assholes(edited)
Brainy25-Jul-21 05:35 PM
I'd strongly recommend if we have a dedicated channel for ban appeals, rejections, etc., that it be a private channel.(edited)
./a.out25-Jul-21 05:35 PM
Voting channel is up, cast your reactions
It is private
Distoibed25-Jul-21 05:36 PM
imma be super hitler on #mod-voting
so no fucking talking in it
Eric25-Jul-21 05:36 PM
general retard, idk what hes done to fuck with people. as in harass them @Brainy
Distoibed
imma be super hitler on #mod-voting
so no fucking talking in it
./a.out25-Jul-21 05:36 PM
I agree with that
Should be strictly voting
Brainy25-Jul-21 05:37 PM
Yeah I was wondering what specifically he did? When you say harassment, do you mean like CAB, or like Moub?
Mumu from NYC25-Jul-21 05:38 PM
kick discord squatters
Krial25-Jul-21 05:38 PM
CAB’s brand of harassment is bad
Eric25-Jul-21 05:38 PM
cab
moub is just retarded
Krial25-Jul-21 05:38 PM
Good with kick
Eric25-Jul-21 05:38 PM
he doesnt mean ill will unless its unironically a female whos better than him
Krial25-Jul-21 05:39 PM
I don’t dislike Eva though
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<325-Jul-21 05:39 PM
you like everyone
Krial25-Jul-21 05:39 PM
But is put to a vote so y’all can pick
Eric25-Jul-21 05:39 PM
carl on the other hand though, i wouldnt keep him in here because he just starts arguments for the sake of it
Dal29025-Jul-21 05:39 PM
I have gotten enough complaints about him just poking people out of just blocking and being done with it
Eric25-Jul-21 05:39 PM
literally makes like 20 people seethe in 1 hour
Krial25-Jul-21 05:39 PM
Yeah, because he’s just abrasive, but still at least browses the website and doesn’t talk about jerking off 24/7(edited)
Dal29025-Jul-21 05:40 PM
Encouraging scumbags who do shit like that aint conductive
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<325-Jul-21 05:40 PM
i dont want carl back in if he decides so comeback
Eric25-Jul-21 05:40 PM
yeah let me laugh at him
so im shitposted about
though theres not much to shitpost about me for
Dal290
I have gotten enough complaints about him just poking people out of just blocking and being done with it
Stannic25-Jul-21 05:40 PM
eva harrasses people for have people blocking him?
June25-Jul-21 05:40 PM
wouldnt know, I have him blocked
lol
Stannic25-Jul-21 05:40 PM
same
Eric25-Jul-21 05:40 PM
eva's behavior is
"lole i farted" x20
in ur face
Stannic25-Jul-21 05:40 PM
it's literally kite or zauber
June25-Jul-21 05:41 PM
way less funny
./a.out25-Jul-21 05:41 PM
Changing the "kick carl" to "ban carl" so recheck your reaction votes
Eric25-Jul-21 05:41 PM
based
Krial25-Jul-21 05:41 PM
Is he actively causing a detriment to where people feel the need to leave or something?
If not, why is it even a vote? If we’re voting on cringe, I got several.
We can start with.
./a.out25-Jul-21 05:42 PM
The amount of people I've heard complain about him is easily in the double digits
Meeps25-Jul-21 05:42 PM
let me remove that ban on cab and we'll just count it as a kick
Eric25-Jul-21 05:42 PM
cab will keep coming on alts
./a.out
Changing the "kick carl" to "ban carl" so recheck your reaction votes
June25-Jul-21 05:42 PM
I cant decide on that one, gonna leave it un voted for now
Eric25-Jul-21 05:42 PM
a kick or ban doesnt mean anything
Brainy25-Jul-21 05:43 PM
I'm going to refrain voting on Eva, because I don't know the circumstances of the harassment (unless someone is willing to enlighten me there). Carl, I haven't seen him target anyone maliciously, although he does say stupid shit that winds people up and creates nonsensical debates. I don't mind seeing him put into timeout just to cool off in those cases. He does post stuff we delete/purge as a policy, but I don't mind cleaning it up for him anymore than I do for everyone else on the server.
Eric25-Jul-21 05:43 PM
@Brainy check trash when i muted him for literally 10 minutes
Brainy25-Jul-21 05:43 PM
Any examples of Carl targeting anyone?
Brainy
I'm going to refrain voting on Eva, because I don't know the circumstances of the harassment (unless someone is willing to enlighten me there). Carl, I haven't seen him target anyone maliciously, although he does say stupid shit that winds people up and creates nonsensical debates. I don't mind seeing him put into timeout just to cool off in those cases. He does post stuff we delete/purge as a policy, but I don't mind cleaning it up for him anymore than I do for everyone else on the server.
Dal29025-Jul-21 05:43 PM
Unfortunately with carl it boils down to him text vomitting so much that he offputs other users
Brainy
I'm going to refrain voting on Eva, because I don't know the circumstances of the harassment (unless someone is willing to enlighten me there). Carl, I haven't seen him target anyone maliciously, although he does say stupid shit that winds people up and creates nonsensical debates. I don't mind seeing him put into timeout just to cool off in those cases. He does post stuff we delete/purge as a policy, but I don't mind cleaning it up for him anymore than I do for everyone else on the server.
June25-Jul-21 05:43 PM
search for messages from him here in this discord, he basically replys to everyone constantly trying to one-up and talk shit etc
Eric25-Jul-21 05:43 PM
he tried to start drama between me and rooley claiming i was cheating on him almost immediately
Dal29025-Jul-21 05:43 PM
With eva he is a cringelord to the maximum and gets off to getting people to block him
Eric25-Jul-21 05:44 PM
not that would causes things between me and him
its just the principal
Brainy
Any examples of Carl targeting anyone?
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<325-Jul-21 05:44 PM
i mean I muted him when he was on a 50 post rant about wanting to go on mass killing sprees to everyone who was mean to him
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3
i mean I muted him when he was on a 50 post rant about wanting to go on mass killing sprees to everyone who was mean to him
Stannic25-Jul-21 05:44 PM
Eric25-Jul-21 05:44 PM
unstable weed brain
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3
i mean I muted him when he was on a 50 post rant about wanting to go on mass killing sprees to everyone who was mean to him
Brainy25-Jul-21 05:44 PM
I think I was actually deleting some of those messages earlier when search violent speech terms lol
Dal29025-Jul-21 05:45 PM
Also carl won't stop spamming the thread with off topic bullshit all of the time
Brainy25-Jul-21 05:45 PM
Yeah he's pretty unstable.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<325-Jul-21 05:45 PM
hes banned from /vg/ now
Brainy25-Jul-21 05:45 PM
I mean we can't do anything about the thread. Nor should we.
Eric25-Jul-21 05:45 PM
we shouldnt
but he targets people to there constantly
June25-Jul-21 05:45 PM
has carl tried or made a effort for the inverse though
Eric25-Jul-21 05:45 PM
as soon as something happens here
Dal29025-Jul-21 05:45 PM
Oh yee so we should just approve of kenji now should we
June25-Jul-21 05:45 PM
being good, saying he doesnt want to be kicked out?
Stannic25-Jul-21 05:45 PM
>for the inverse
Dal29025-Jul-21 05:46 PM
Das BULLLLLLLSHIIIIIIT
Dal290
Oh yee so we should just approve of kenji now should we
June25-Jul-21 05:46 PM
no
Stannic25-Jul-21 05:46 PM
Kenji doesn't have vr so no
Krial25-Jul-21 05:46 PM
Carl usually apologizes after.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<325-Jul-21 05:46 PM
and
Stannic25-Jul-21 05:46 PM
and?
apologies don't mean shit when he does it again later
June25-Jul-21 05:46 PM
but does he stop?
./a.out25-Jul-21 05:46 PM
He's left the server himself to avoid posting on the weekend, but then he comes back and still does his carl stuff
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<325-Jul-21 05:46 PM
no he leaves when he gets timed out
./a.out25-Jul-21 05:46 PM
Ah
Brainy25-Jul-21 05:47 PM
I'm not going to fight for him because I think you all bring up good points for wanting to remove him. But I do think if we decided to keep him around, we can probably devise a way of containing him.
Stannic25-Jul-21 05:48 PM
and he
and he'll just leave again
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes25-Jul-21 05:48 PM
I also think you should change Kick CAB to ban CAB
./a.out25-Jul-21 05:48 PM
Yea, i feel if he stays, then it'll be an endless cycle of timeouts, leaving/rejoining, and discussions about him here in the future
Stannic25-Jul-21 05:48 PM
and call it mod oppression
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes25-Jul-21 05:48 PM
CAB will never ever stop being him
Stannic25-Jul-21 05:48 PM
allowing him in and out will shit up the thread even more(edited)
Brainy
I'm not going to fight for him because I think you all bring up good points for wanting to remove him. But I do think if we decided to keep him around, we can probably devise a way of containing him.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<325-Jul-21 05:48 PM
hes banned from /vg/ so he only shits up /trash/ anymore
Brainy25-Jul-21 05:49 PM
I like to think everyone can change. But they need to demonstrate it. CAB is only demonstrating he still wants to harass specific people.
Stannic25-Jul-21 05:49 PM
since it'll be another place for him to constantly have another emotional outburst
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<325-Jul-21 05:49 PM
nah assholes will always be assholes(edited)
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes
I also think you should change Kick CAB to ban CAB
./a.out25-Jul-21 05:49 PM
Makes sense. I can change it. Everyone recheck your votes, switching cab's
Brainy25-Jul-21 05:49 PM
Wait is Carl literally banned from /vg/? As in the whole board?
Stannic25-Jul-21 05:49 PM
yes
./a.out25-Jul-21 05:49 PM
Yes
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<325-Jul-21 05:49 PM
yes
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes25-Jul-21 05:50 PM
mhm
Stannic25-Jul-21 05:50 PM
he was stupid enough to post his ban in the thread
Brainy25-Jul-21 05:50 PM
How the hell did he manage that holy shit lmao
Stannic25-Jul-21 05:50 PM
or was it something else
./a.out
Makes sense. I can change it. Everyone recheck your votes, switching cab's
June25-Jul-21 05:50 PM
just start another
./a.out25-Jul-21 05:50 PM
K
June25-Jul-21 05:50 PM
changing vote terms is a good way to vote manipulate lol(edited)
Brainy25-Jul-21 05:51 PM
Yeah if we ever change something from kick/ban etc., I agree with June, it should just be a new entry.
./a.out25-Jul-21 05:51 PM
Very good point lol
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<325-Jul-21 05:51 PM
im going to say if carl is banned from /vg/ shouldnt he be banned from a /vg/ community
Stannic
he was stupid enough to post his ban in the thread
Eric25-Jul-21 05:51 PM
his warning
Stannic25-Jul-21 05:52 PM
oh
is that grounds for a perma ban or a month ban
Eric25-Jul-21 05:52 PM
@#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3 its easy to get ban on 4chan so
idk i dont get banned/warned much
Brainy25-Jul-21 05:52 PM
I like to judge people based on individual cases. But I think we have enough grounds here for it to be justifiable to want to ban Carl.
Eric25-Jul-21 05:52 PM
im ontopic
Eric
@#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3 its easy to get ban on 4chan so
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<325-Jul-21 05:52 PM
not really
only time ive ever been banned was when i was trying to
Stannic25-Jul-21 05:53 PM
i got warned and banned for 3 day shit for off-topic and contributing to massive shitposts in other threads on vg
so it's easy to get banned if you post the most stupidest shit or something that is unrelated to the thread
Dal29025-Jul-21 05:53 PM
I once got banned for telling our usual shitposter to drink some water and calm down
Brainy25-Jul-21 05:53 PM
I take it we're past the point of trying something new with Carl? IE, giving him a warning about the behavior, then banning him for separate lengths of time?
Dal29025-Jul-21 05:53 PM
I was very confused
./a.out25-Jul-21 05:53 PM
I eat warnings from hg every week but thats about it lol
Brainy25-Jul-21 05:54 PM
Such as, we could ban him for 1 week over his current behavior. If he comes back and just gets into it again, we ban him for 1 month.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<325-Jul-21 05:54 PM
last time i was banned was for soyjack spamming
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3
not really
Krial25-Jul-21 05:54 PM
It is very easy to get banned on 4chan.
Dal29025-Jul-21 05:54 PM
The way I see it, there is no signs of change after like, years
Brainy25-Jul-21 05:54 PM
That way he at least has some opportunity to change, if not self-regulate his behavior.
Dal29025-Jul-21 05:54 PM
Carl is going to blog his unfiltered mind vomit wherever he is with his %100 free neet time
You can't get that to stop
Stannic25-Jul-21 05:55 PM
^
Brainy25-Jul-21 05:55 PM
Yeah, but he's used to just leaving and coming back immediately, right?
Stannic25-Jul-21 05:55 PM
introduce him to twitter
Krial25-Jul-21 05:55 PM
It is shockingly easy. Because it’s viewed as something you just undo. It’s not viewed as a permanent ban by anyone with a brain because everyone knows to just undo it.
Stannic25-Jul-21 05:55 PM
or blogspot
./a.out25-Jul-21 05:55 PM
Carl's been like this for a long time, and has even been booted from other servers. I dont see him changing anytime soon
Brainy
I take it we're past the point of trying something new with Carl? IE, giving him a warning about the behavior, then banning him for separate lengths of time?
Eric25-Jul-21 05:55 PM
when people say the way to deal with him is to only say fuck off carl
i think we are way beyond
Krial
It is shockingly easy. Because it’s viewed as something you just undo. It’s not viewed as a permanent ban by anyone with a brain because everyone knows to just undo it.
Stannic25-Jul-21 05:55 PM
yeah and i always laff at the notion too until they have to do an ip range ban
Distoibed25-Jul-21 05:55 PM
De_generic's birthday is in 5 mins
Brainy25-Jul-21 05:55 PM
Sounds like you guys are 100% confident even escalating punishments wouldn't get him to reduce it.
Distoibed25-Jul-21 05:55 PM
idk if any1 wants to announce it
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<325-Jul-21 05:55 PM
yes
i would
Brainy
Sounds like you guys are 100% confident even escalating punishments wouldn't get him to reduce it.
Stannic25-Jul-21 05:56 PM
no
Dal29025-Jul-21 05:56 PM
I got really pissed on the last server for being signed up to deal with bullshit that was a fulltime/all day kind of deal so I wouldn't recommend signing people up for extra moderation when a ban will suffice on problematic bullshit.
Krial25-Jul-21 05:56 PM
I think this convo dumb, and leaving out key people
Stannic25-Jul-21 05:56 PM
if he bitches about 10 minute time out
Brainy25-Jul-21 05:56 PM
Well I give up.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<325-Jul-21 05:56 PM
carl went in and blocked me on everything anyways
Stannic25-Jul-21 05:56 PM
he'll die on that hill
Distoibed25-Jul-21 05:56 PM
He asked me, but I keep my birthday announcements personal to people I know and like
Stannic25-Jul-21 05:56 PM
and make mountain out of anthills
he reminds me of a certain guy who's been mocking nick rekieta for 3 years non-stop
and has no intentions on stopping
Eric25-Jul-21 05:57 PM
i’ll keep slapping carl since he likes to shitpost about it
Stannic25-Jul-21 05:57 PM
that nick has to tell people in his stream chat to just ignore the guy because he constantly makes new accoutns and shit to talk moreshit to nick
Eric25-Jul-21 05:57 PM
maybe ill get a good joke that isnt about my skin color
Distoibed25-Jul-21 05:57 PM
@#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3 thanks for doing the announcing job for me
Stannic25-Jul-21 05:57 PM
and all nick did was be a lawyer and rebuked his statement about a section article bs lawyerese nonsense
Distoibed
@#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3 thanks for doing the announcing job for me
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<325-Jul-21 05:58 PM
shit i misread but i can do it
was thinking you were talking about carl ban
Eric25-Jul-21 05:58 PM
that sounds like low tier god dicksuckers @Stannic
Stannic25-Jul-21 05:58 PM
probably
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3
was thinking you were talking about carl ban
Distoibed25-Jul-21 05:58 PM
can you still do it?
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<325-Jul-21 05:58 PM
ye
Distoibed25-Jul-21 05:58 PM
I kinda told generic that you would
Krial25-Jul-21 05:58 PM
I did it.
It’s fine.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<325-Jul-21 05:59 PM
i was doing it
Krial25-Jul-21 05:59 PM
Didnt see anyone else typing
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<325-Jul-21 05:59 PM
was getting a cake pic
Krial25-Jul-21 06:01 PM
Also I assumed you were saying you’d like to announce Carl’s ban
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<325-Jul-21 06:02 PM
i cant read im american
Krial
I think this convo dumb, and leaving out key people
June25-Jul-21 06:09 PM
who are the people left out
go get them(edited)
June
who are the people left out
Krial25-Jul-21 06:11 PM
@🔇@Black Lily
Distoibed25-Jul-21 06:13 PM
Figured we were all in here jerking off about who next to kick :)
Black Lily25-Jul-21 06:14 PM
Distoibed
Figured we were all in here jerking off about who next to kick :)
Stannic25-Jul-21 06:15 PM
time to make the lotteyr game
whoever the bot pulls and pings
Distoibed25-Jul-21 06:16 PM
Nah
Stannic25-Jul-21 06:16 PM
is the person about to get into limbo and their only choice is to leave while people can look in and react
Distoibed25-Jul-21 06:16 PM
We demand a weekly tribute
From nsfw chat
Stannic25-Jul-21 06:16 PM
no a daily tribute
with the EUs first
then the NAs
they must have strive
and fight for their survival to be in the server
Black Lily25-Jul-21 06:17 PM
Problem with banning carl is he'll just go back to filling the thread with psuedo intellectual shit
Krial25-Jul-21 06:18 PM
Block is a feature anyways imo.
Black Lily25-Jul-21 06:18 PM
You can't get rid of cab unless we get rid of the two people he's been harrassing for the last year and a half
Stannic25-Jul-21 06:19 PM
my counterpoint to that is if we let him in here, and if he gets t/o'd again he'll fill the thread up with even more bs
and block is also a feature
but some people can't help themselves so it's a double edged sword
so have constant bullshit at a regular level or have him go turbo autist at a various times
🔇25-Jul-21 06:20 PM
Black Lily
You can't get rid of cab unless we get rid of the two people he's been harrassing for the last year and a half
Brainy25-Jul-21 06:20 PM
Do you mean he'll keep coming back to harass them?
Stannic25-Jul-21 06:20 PM
yes
he's done this for uh
2 years?
1 year? now
Black Lily25-Jul-21 06:20 PM
Yup
Stannic25-Jul-21 06:21 PM
and he's still holding a grudge against meeps for something that happened last year
Black Lily25-Jul-21 06:21 PM
He blames meeps and wired for his vrchat ban
Brainy25-Jul-21 06:21 PM
Ah I see. Yeah it's always a problem when you ban people for stuff like this. The best we can do is just identify him when he ban evades and toss him out again. But that should be easy enough to do if he can't help himself and targets Wired or others again.
Perrine25-Jul-21 06:21 PM
I'm still a little salty about meeps but at this point eh, I'm getting over it
He should too maybe perhaps
Black Lily25-Jul-21 06:22 PM
Even though it was probably the same people helping him shit up the thread that reported him
🔇25-Jul-21 06:22 PM
Yeah, cab can die imo. He’s been perpetuating the shitpost for meeps/wired for way too long.(edited)
Stannic25-Jul-21 06:22 PM
it's a deader joke than me drop kicking people
Perrine25-Jul-21 06:22 PM
I'm going to refrain from actually voting this time because I'm not familiar enough to make a confident, educated decision
🔇25-Jul-21 06:23 PM
The wired shitposting has been going on for like 2+ years now.
Perrine25-Jul-21 06:23 PM
But i encourage confident action over wifflewaffle
Krial25-Jul-21 06:23 PM
CAB can go
Brainy25-Jul-21 06:23 PM
Yeah I'm 100% confident about banning him just based on the username.
He's already banned now too.
🔇25-Jul-21 06:23 PM
And the meeps shitposting has been going on about 18 months.
🔇
The wired shitposting has been going on for like 2+ years now.
Black Lily25-Jul-21 06:23 PM
No, it returns every couple weeks
Brainy25-Jul-21 06:23 PM
So no going back unless he appeals again in the future.
Dal29025-Jul-21 06:23 PM
If there is no end in sight, and there will be bullshit, it makes sense to just blast em
Perrine25-Jul-21 06:24 PM
Some people get too salty for their own good, and cling to things they should have let go
Black Lily
No, it returns every couple weeks
🔇25-Jul-21 06:24 PM
Yes, it’s still going. it’s been 2+ years.
Since he started
Black Lily25-Jul-21 06:24 PM
I can't read
Perrine
Some people get too salty for their own good, and cling to things they should have let go
Stannic25-Jul-21 06:24 PM
cab's thing is a special thing
Black Lily
I can't read
Dal29025-Jul-21 06:24 PM
BUT YOU ARE WHITE?!
Perrine25-Jul-21 06:24 PM
I don't know if they realize how tiring it gets to stay mad
Stannic
cab's thing is a special thing
Perrine25-Jul-21 06:24 PM
Oh?
Stannic25-Jul-21 06:24 PM
a man that holds a grudge that long is no man but a fucking literal manchild
Perrine25-Jul-21 06:25 PM
Lol
Black Lily25-Jul-21 06:25 PM
In all honesty I've hated cab since he started talking
🔇25-Jul-21 06:25 PM
Pretty much tbh.
Stannic25-Jul-21 06:25 PM
yeah he was more fun when was quiet
Krial25-Jul-21 06:25 PM
He’s got that personality
That just grates on you lol
🔇25-Jul-21 06:25 PM
Mute cab was best cab
Krial25-Jul-21 06:25 PM
I did apologize to him for telling him to mull himself when I first met him though
🔇25-Jul-21 06:25 PM
Then drunk singing cab
Dal29025-Jul-21 06:25 PM
He did too many drugs and ended up messed up
Perrine25-Jul-21 06:25 PM
I dunno if it's me getting less 4chan or just me encountering more idiots, but i can't stand the le edgy retard personality anymore
🔇25-Jul-21 06:25 PM
Then harass wired cab
Stannic25-Jul-21 06:26 PM
i remember the story of him bringing the bag of weed to the first crawboil
Perrine25-Jul-21 06:26 PM
Like there's a difference between wanton shitposts and targeted, sustained idiocy
Stannic25-Jul-21 06:26 PM
probably started his brainchem journey to having no iq
Perrine
I dunno if it's me getting less 4chan or just me encountering more idiots, but i can't stand the le edgy retard personality anymore
🔇25-Jul-21 06:26 PM
It’s called not being a child anymore. (:
🔇
It’s called not being a child anymore. (:
Perrine25-Jul-21 06:26 PM
Maybe, but that excuse has been used to shit on actual fun lulz over the years
So I'm hesitant to use it
🔇25-Jul-21 06:27 PM
Lulz that last for a week or so are fine, but longer than a month? No
Perrine25-Jul-21 06:27 PM
Basically i try to remember the internet isn't srs bsbs
And let that guide me
Bsns
Stannic25-Jul-21 06:28 PM
internet isn't srs bsns but you also wanna keep the place you go to often clean
Dal29025-Jul-21 06:28 PM
If you spend more then two/three years with people, you should take things a lil more serious, it's a balance
Perrine25-Jul-21 06:28 PM
Yeah
There's a fine line between bantz and bully
🔇25-Jul-21 06:28 PM
Being retarded towards someone for over a month can’t fall under the “haha lul” reason anymore.
Stannic25-Jul-21 06:28 PM
time to be angy at asylum
🔇25-Jul-21 06:28 PM
Do it.
Stannic25-Jul-21 06:28 PM
HE TALKED LAST NIGHT
Perrine25-Jul-21 06:29 PM
If you can't have a good drink with someone after what you do, you're on the wrong side of it
Dal29025-Jul-21 06:29 PM
There is somebody who treats me like a friend they can go to when there is drama where they come from, a non-serious fallback friend, had to cut that off
It had been four years
Stannic
HE TALKED LAST NIGHT
🔇25-Jul-21 06:29 PM
That’s your imagination stannic.
Stannic25-Jul-21 06:29 PM
I'M BEING GASLIGHTED
Perrine25-Jul-21 06:29 PM
Stannic25-Jul-21 06:29 PM
last night was fun tho
🔇25-Jul-21 06:30 PM
Ye. Was good, but looking at voting, seems like majority agrees on ban cab, kick Carl, and kick Eva.
Or wait, the Carl thing is kinda mixed.
Black Lily25-Jul-21 06:31 PM
I don't know if eva has been that bad recently
Looks like he's significantly less active
Krial25-Jul-21 06:32 PM
Eva just has a special brand of shitposting.
Stannic25-Jul-21 06:32 PM
carl is mixed
i haven't voted nor do i want to since there's heavy bias from me hating his ass
🔇25-Jul-21 06:32 PM
That’s exactly why there’s a vote.
Dal29025-Jul-21 06:33 PM
I actually like carl, but I recognize nothing will change if he keeps coming back and shitposting like crazy
Stannic25-Jul-21 06:33 PM
now stop talking in vrchat asylum
Dal29025-Jul-21 06:33 PM
Change only comes about through action in these situations
🔇25-Jul-21 06:33 PM
Stannic
now stop talking in vrchat asylum
🔇25-Jul-21 06:33 PM
I’ll do what I want
Black Lily25-Jul-21 06:33 PM
If only carl got a job
Stannic25-Jul-21 06:33 PM
carl will be carl and he'll keep on with how he goes with lfie
Dal29025-Jul-21 06:34 PM
Yep, he would balance out if he had his attention directed at something like a job
As it stands its full time mental vomit spewing
Stannic25-Jul-21 06:34 PM
maybe if he got forced out of all communities to where he had to go outside
that'll be something for him to focus on
Futanari25-Jul-21 06:34 PM
Vote time
Pog
Stannic25-Jul-21 06:34 PM
wheres the vote to ban asylum's voicebox
Dal29025-Jul-21 06:35 PM
I propose we call this booting session the "Touch Grass Initiative"
🔇
I’ll do what I want
Perrine25-Jul-21 06:35 PM
Tfw never gonna hear ssylum's voice
Why even live
Black Lily25-Jul-21 06:36 PM
There's nothing we can do to "fix" carl
Perrine
Tfw never gonna hear ssylum's voice
Dal29025-Jul-21 06:36 PM
JUST CALL HIM
🔇25-Jul-21 06:36 PM
Come to Orlando, or just call me.
Perrine25-Jul-21 06:36 PM
N-no
🔇
Come to Orlando, or just call me.
Black Lily25-Jul-21 06:36 PM
Just talk in vrchat
🔇
Come to Orlando, or just call me.
Perrine25-Jul-21 06:36 PM
We went through Tallahassee an hour ago
Black Lily25-Jul-21 06:36 PM
It's easy
Perrine25-Jul-21 06:36 PM
St Augustine soon
Futanari25-Jul-21 06:36 PM
I hate carl
Krial25-Jul-21 06:36 PM
I like Carl
Futanari25-Jul-21 06:36 PM
I have eva
Fuck you all
Krial25-Jul-21 06:36 PM
But I like everyone
Futanari25-Jul-21 06:36 PM
Decisions made
Black Lily
Just talk in vrchat
🔇25-Jul-21 06:36 PM
I could, but I’ve made promises to not talk til poe2 releases.
Perrine25-Jul-21 06:36 PM
I dunno if you wanna hang with fat filipino though
Krial
But I like everyone
Black Lily25-Jul-21 06:36 PM
You're too accepting
Black Lily
There's nothing we can do to "fix" carl
Dal29025-Jul-21 06:37 PM
That's bullshit just go and recommend him a job and talk with him so much he burns out on talking
E Z
Futanari25-Jul-21 06:37 PM
Just make him feel like ass
Black Lily
You're too accepting
Krial25-Jul-21 06:37 PM
I just draw hard limits. Cab to me is a hard limit
Futanari25-Jul-21 06:37 PM
Easy
Dal29025-Jul-21 06:37 PM
I have actually talked with carl for an entire six hour session and he burned out
Krial25-Jul-21 06:37 PM
Eva is not(edited)
🔇25-Jul-21 06:37 PM
I would say put Carl on the suicide hotline, but he would tell them to kill themselves. ):
Krial25-Jul-21 06:37 PM
Carl is not either
Black Lily25-Jul-21 06:37 PM
Carl will never get a job
Dal290
That's bullshit just go and recommend him a job and talk with him so much he burns out on talking
Stannic25-Jul-21 06:38 PM
have him go be a politician
now he can take out his anger on the people
i mean why work when the gubmint pays you more than minimum wage and lose all that benefit when you get a job?
June25-Jul-21 06:40 PM
'fixing' people is a misnomer
your forcing them to conform to what you think they should be
which if you know carl, is exactly something he avoids
which means you can't 'fix' him
Dal29025-Jul-21 06:42 PM
I think if enough people didn't push me to be better for myself
I would still be a depressed retardo desktopper
It's alright to push, but shoving is a bit much
Stannic25-Jul-21 06:43 PM
iirc you have to reach a hand out first and ask for it before people start pushing
whatever that saying
Black Lily25-Jul-21 06:43 PM
But carl isn't depressed he's a gigachad mega top
Stannic25-Jul-21 06:43 PM
if he's a gigachad mega top then moub must be the godchad perfect form top
Black Lily25-Jul-21 06:45 PM
Poor moub
Krial25-Jul-21 06:45 PM
Moub is doing fine
Irl and in game too I think
./a.out25-Jul-21 06:46 PM
Ehhh
Stannic25-Jul-21 06:46 PM
ehhhhhh
Krial25-Jul-21 06:46 PM
Better than he was
./a.out25-Jul-21 06:46 PM
Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Stannic25-Jul-21 06:46 PM
EHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
last i heard he shat himself in vr while drunk
1
🔇25-Jul-21 06:46 PM
hes been improving as of late at least
Krial25-Jul-21 06:46 PM
He’s got the finest retard wrangler alive
In frosty
Stannic
last i heard he shat himself in vr while drunk
🔇25-Jul-21 06:47 PM
someone else shit his pants while he was in vr (;
Stannic25-Jul-21 06:47 PM
wat
Krial
Moub is doing fine
Black Lily25-Jul-21 06:47 PM
Moub isn't doing fine he's on the fast track to dying from alcohol or blowing his brains out(edited)
Stannic25-Jul-21 06:47 PM
i mean like he did literally
what black lily said
🔇25-Jul-21 06:48 PM
yeah, its a joke
but moub has been more coherent recently despite fuckups
Stannic25-Jul-21 06:48 PM
i hope so
it's his liver failing on him or him trying to stop and dying from the more intense alcohol withdrawal symptoms(edited)
🔇25-Jul-21 06:49 PM
a bit of both. he needs to be admitted for treatment tbh
Stannic25-Jul-21 06:49 PM
he definitely does
🔇25-Jul-21 06:49 PM
so that he can stop drinking without accidentally dying
Krial25-Jul-21 06:50 PM
I haven’t seen moub drunk on a week day in a few weeks
Stannic25-Jul-21 06:50 PM
he might be drunk
🔇25-Jul-21 06:50 PM
hes still been drinking tho
Stannic25-Jul-21 06:50 PM
with the amount he's been drinking a shot or two and he'll still be normal
but probably to offset the AWS
Krial25-Jul-21 06:51 PM
That’s the thing though
Not to be all conspiracy
But do we know he even drinks a shit ton and isn’t just acting like it?
Since that’s kinda his schtick now?
Stannic25-Jul-21 06:51 PM
well if it's his schtick good for him
though it's a sad display to see if he wants to be viewed as haha drunk tho
Black Lily25-Jul-21 06:52 PM
"I'm straight"
./a.out25-Jul-21 06:54 PM
He's probably willing to do whatever it takes to get attention, and since him being drunk and straight(gay) does the job, he's hooked onto it
June25-Jul-21 07:00 PM
many such cases
Dal29025-Jul-21 07:00 PM
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<325-Jul-21 07:01 PM
what is the voting ratio required for a vote to pass is it unanimous, 60 percent or what
June25-Jul-21 07:01 PM
@🔇@Black Lily
50% 60% 75% or x number of votes in total(edited)
Perrine25-Jul-21 07:02 PM
I presumed it was simple majority
🔇25-Jul-21 07:02 PM
i would say anything that has 12+ votes
on one side
which would be majority
June25-Jul-21 07:03 PM
13, 10, 9, 11
so only one would go though currently in #mod-voting
Perrine25-Jul-21 07:03 PM
And these decisions are purely for the discord, yeah?
Black Lily25-Jul-21 07:03 PM
Yes
🔇25-Jul-21 07:04 PM
we have 21 total people capable of voting
so 12 or 11 makes most sense
June25-Jul-21 07:04 PM
you two make the call on that
set it as the description for the channel
🔇25-Jul-21 07:05 PM
lily, opinions on how the decision is judged?
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<325-Jul-21 07:06 PM
people need to actually vote aswell
Black Lily25-Jul-21 07:07 PM
Majority rule
If it's close though we should talk about the vote more
🔇25-Jul-21 07:10 PM
so a % of votes placed as june suggested, or just a number of votes on one side like i suggested?
both are majority, just participating majority vs total majority
Dal29025-Jul-21 07:10 PM
Majority but question it if there is a clear split on the subject or people are obviously disagreeing heavily enough to call it into question
I like the routine of making sure everybody is here for the discussion of something important like this too thanks for remembering @Krial
Dal290
Majority but question it if there is a clear split on the subject or people are obviously disagreeing heavily enough to call it into question
🔇25-Jul-21 07:11 PM
but which majority
Dal29025-Jul-21 07:11 PM
Either way obviously
🔇25-Jul-21 07:11 PM
choose one
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<325-Jul-21 07:12 PM
id say majority after one day
if not everyone votes
Dal29025-Jul-21 07:12 PM
Simple majority I guess, and yee a day to let people put their vote in
🔇25-Jul-21 07:12 PM
so % of votes cast?
Dal29025-Jul-21 07:12 PM
If you have to get into percentages, they I guess
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<325-Jul-21 07:13 PM
or if everyone votes majority if less than everyone does 60 percent?
🔇25-Jul-21 07:13 PM
vs % of votes available
Dal29025-Jul-21 07:13 PM
It's odd we usually had an agreeing majority, with more variety we actually have to cross this bridge haha
Perrine25-Jul-21 07:13 PM
I'd say majority with a difference of 2 votes, and 2/3rd participation
So 14 participating
Dal290
I like the routine of making sure everybody is here for the discussion of something important like this too thanks for remembering @Krial
Krial25-Jul-21 07:13 PM
Discussing when people are absent is likely to let domineering personalities sway opinions imo.
Dal29025-Jul-21 07:14 PM
Good for representation, but out of the voting pool percentage is gud
Perrine25-Jul-21 07:14 PM
And at least a difference of like, 8 to 6
🔇25-Jul-21 07:14 PM
Krial
Discussing when people are absent is likely to let domineering personalities sway opinions imo.
Dal29025-Jul-21 07:14 PM
Yeah I'd like to avoid circlejerk/kneejerk decisions from a small discussion pool on something as big as a kick/ban
Perrine25-Jul-21 07:15 PM
And 24 hours before vote closes?
Dal29025-Jul-21 07:15 PM
Oh yee @here vote on the things you fuckers
Dal290
Yeah I'd like to avoid circlejerk/kneejerk decisions from a small discussion pool on something as big as a kick/ban
Krial25-Jul-21 07:15 PM
Exactly. Circle jerking in a private channel is very cringe imo.
1
Azuth25-Jul-21 07:15 PM
I abstain
1
June25-Jul-21 07:15 PM
I voted on the ones I had a decision on
Dal29025-Jul-21 07:16 PM
Guess that works too, your right to participate or not to
Jason25-Jul-21 07:16 PM
what am i voting on
🔇25-Jul-21 07:16 PM
#mod-voting
Black Lily25-Jul-21 07:16 PM
Hi Jason
Stannic25-Jul-21 07:16 PM
VOTE FUCKER VOOOOOOOOTE
Jason25-Jul-21 07:16 PM
Hi lily
why is vrg+ purple now
Dal29025-Jul-21 07:17 PM
We will vote on if we have to have mandatory sock pics collected from all jannies/mods to ensure loyalty through blackmail
Stannic25-Jul-21 07:17 PM
its your star of david
Jason25-Jul-21 07:17 PM
ive already posted sock pics to the discord
Dal290
We will vote on if we have to have mandatory sock pics collected from all jannies/mods to ensure loyalty through blackmail
Krial25-Jul-21 07:17 PM
What about feet pics
Dal29025-Jul-21 07:18 PM
Only if there is heavy emphasis on the toes
Eric25-Jul-21 07:19 PM
@Jason proof?
Jason25-Jul-21 07:20 PM
oh wait that was last discord
rip
@Eric
Eric25-Jul-21 07:21 PM
put ur sisters socks back
lmao
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes25-Jul-21 07:21 PM
CRINGE
Jason25-Jul-21 07:21 PM
they came in the mail and they are unironically my vr socks now just cause they are so easy to spot
i cant believe jason is our gay pride diversity quota
Jason25-Jul-21 07:22 PM
im protection from the ban squad
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes25-Jul-21 07:22 PM
I would sooner shoot myself than sock post
Jason25-Jul-21 07:22 PM
they'll see my socks and not nuke the discord
Brainy25-Jul-21 07:23 PM
I voted. There's only one I didn't vote on because I don't know the situation and don't want to bother people to explain it to me. lol
Perrine25-Jul-21 07:24 PM
Moses supposes
Tfw bad cell reception holds back your messages until they're not relevant anymore
Jason
Click to see attachment🖼️
June25-Jul-21 08:28 PM
June
Click to see attachment🖼️
Black Lily25-Jul-21 08:29 PM
Make your bed
June25-Jul-21 08:29 PM
No
Jason25-Jul-21 08:31 PM
based
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes25-Jul-21 09:15 PM
I am now in favor of kicking eva
Anyone who would DM me to try to get me to fuck with someone on their behalf because they are blocked should be removed
Futanari25-Jul-21 09:39 PM
I block people that constantly have no fucking conversation
And even ping me for the dumbest shit
Futanari
I block people that constantly have no fucking conversation
June25-Jul-21 09:41 PM
Ping
Futanari25-Jul-21 09:43 PM
Hi
Wuts up
June25-Jul-21 09:44 PM
Not much
Saw you taking about how you didn't like being pinged
So I did it for amusement
Futanari25-Jul-21 09:47 PM
I reply to pings
But it depends if its something to talk about
And depends on the person
Krial
Discussing when people are absent is likely to let domineering personalities sway opinions imo.
June25-Jul-21 09:49 PM
They were pinged with the initial @ mod and here, if I have to directly tie their names next time I can. But I assure you they were. Your the one that was attempting to get extra voices that agree with you usually which I understand.
Krial25-Jul-21 09:49 PM
I don't think asylum or lily agree with me on either case.(edited)
June25-Jul-21 09:49 PM
I didn't notice your message till now, but don't talk shit without pinging me
Krial25-Jul-21 09:49 PM
What? I wasn't talking shit about you June.
June25-Jul-21 09:50 PM
Alright
Krial25-Jul-21 09:50 PM
I also didn't see an initial mod ping.
So I apologize if I missed that.
June25-Jul-21 09:50 PM
Yeah I was making sure people did hear about cab in welcome
Only two people were talking
Krial25-Jul-21 09:51 PM
Yeah I breezed right through that, that's my mistake.
I seriously have 0 issue with you June.
Sorry if it came off like that. I apologize.(edited)
June25-Jul-21 09:52 PM
It's all good, I just thought you were telling I fucked up when I was pretty damn sure I didn't
Krial25-Jul-21 09:52 PM
No no, not at all. Overall it just looked like a dog pile on people and decisions were on the verge of being made regardless of all opinions involved.
June25-Jul-21 09:53 PM
Mass pings do that lol
Krial25-Jul-21 09:53 PM
I know I'm in the minority regarding Eva carl etc.
That's fine, I'm probably just playing devils advocate and shouldn't.
June25-Jul-21 09:53 PM
I've played it a lot in the past
Black Lily25-Jul-21 09:53 PM
We need people that disagree with eachother
Krial25-Jul-21 09:54 PM
I just feel like, if we're banning people based on "annoying", people find different shit annoying.
Like to me Eva's shit is hilarious.
June25-Jul-21 09:54 PM
You can ask asylum, makes me kinda burnt on it
I'm not voting on all of the bans though
It's too far
Krial25-Jul-21 09:54 PM
I get how people might not like it, but personally its funny to me. There's a lot of people I find way more distasteful than his trolling shit.
Futanari25-Jul-21 09:55 PM
Eva annoys me with his shitty pings on me
Im at fucking work
Black Lily25-Jul-21 09:55 PM
You shouldn't be on you phone at work
Krial25-Jul-21 09:55 PM
IMO spam tagging wintermute because he's an easy target to cause a melty, is worse than eva typing random bullshit.
One is malicious, and the other is just retarded.
Black Lily25-Jul-21 09:56 PM
Winter is almost 40 he shouldn't be reacting like a teenager(edited)
Krial25-Jul-21 09:58 PM
I agree. But at the end of the day, I don't personally think he'd react like he does if he wasn't messed with so consistently.
Proximate cause IMO lies on the shit flinger starting it.
Plus, age in no way brings emotional maturity.
Futanari25-Jul-21 10:01 PM
Yes a neet
So meh
Krial
Plus, age in no way brings emotional maturity.
June25-Jul-21 10:02 PM
really wish it did by default
but its always life experiences
Krial25-Jul-21 10:02 PM
Not everyone is capable of keeping a level head.
June25-Jul-21 10:03 PM
forgot my drink brb
Krial25-Jul-21 10:05 PM
Dudes prolly been given shit his whole life.
June25-Jul-21 10:05 PM
which dude
Black Lily25-Jul-21 10:05 PM
I think it's easy to keep a level head
Krial25-Jul-21 10:05 PM
Can't always blame em for flipping out. Might have tried to ignore it for years and it not worked.
WM.
June25-Jul-21 10:05 PM
yeah WM isnt even a subject I want to touch
comes off as a sociopath, always weighing his relationships
Krial25-Jul-21 10:06 PM
I was just using people giving him shit constantly as an example of shit I personally dislike way more than whatever Eva does.
June25-Jul-21 10:06 PM
yeah I understand
Black Lily25-Jul-21 10:06 PM
It's probably because he always gave a reaction when pucked on so they never stopped
June25-Jul-21 10:06 PM
the thing with eva is we've had a few types like him before
Black Lily25-Jul-21 10:06 PM
And he's too open about a lot of shit
June25-Jul-21 10:06 PM
where they start out basic trolling, then progress into direct harassment
Krial25-Jul-21 10:06 PM
I think if yall ban Eva instead of just getting him to chill out, Eva will absolutely make it a mission to fuck up everything he can
Futanari25-Jul-21 10:06 PM
Hes not even 4 chan
June25-Jul-21 10:07 PM
well hes not up for baning vote yet
so dont worry about that
Krial25-Jul-21 10:07 PM
Whereas I think he can be negotiated/reasoned with.
Krial
I think if yall ban Eva instead of just getting him to chill out, Eva will absolutely make it a mission to fuck up everything he can
Dal29025-Jul-21 10:07 PM
We have tried that mission before, status is a failure 9/10 times
June
so dont worry about that
Krial25-Jul-21 10:07 PM
Aight.
Dal29025-Jul-21 10:07 PM
I think the only guy I watched chill out was cleet, and that was due to smonking weed so much he is blazed like crazy
Krial25-Jul-21 10:08 PM
lol cleet
Futanari25-Jul-21 10:08 PM
Cleet
Dal29025-Jul-21 10:08 PM
Trust me, Jelly was what you could consider project one on that crap
Futanari25-Jul-21 10:08 PM
Guys a weirdo
Krial25-Jul-21 10:08 PM
I've prolly talked to cleet 5 times in total lol.
Dal29025-Jul-21 10:08 PM
Nobody could reach him, nothing changed him, he just got more involved and hated everyone more for giving him a shot
To quote somebody saying this to me, we aren't here to fix people
June25-Jul-21 10:10 PM
Kite, zauber, rest of s-gang, orb, cleet, spray (cant remember his other name)
Futanari25-Jul-21 10:10 PM
#blogs and feels channel when?
Krial25-Jul-21 10:10 PM
#therapy lol.
June25-Jul-21 10:10 PM
some people just dont work in this group
cant resist shitting it up
Futanari25-Jul-21 10:10 PM
That works
Krial25-Jul-21 10:10 PM
kITE's chilled out has he not?
Futanari25-Jul-21 10:10 PM
Uhhhh
Im alright with him honestly
Krial25-Jul-21 10:10 PM
literally came meet friday and saturday
June25-Jul-21 10:10 PM
yes and no
he will most of the time be chill in vrc
Futanari25-Jul-21 10:11 PM
He has done nothing wrong fo me
Krial25-Jul-21 10:11 PM
same
June25-Jul-21 10:11 PM
but he can't be in the discord, he gets too pissed off after a few days
like scuffed jays
Futanari25-Jul-21 10:11 PM
Jays lmao
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes25-Jul-21 10:11 PM
June25-Jul-21 10:11 PM
dont talk shit about him, hes my bro
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes25-Jul-21 10:11 PM
Dming me to try to fuck with someone who has them muted
is too fucking far
June25-Jul-21 10:12 PM
yeah I saw your post, its true that trying to find any avenue to get at people is pretty fucked
he needs a wake up call that he cant get away with everything
Krial25-Jul-21 10:12 PM
Tell him "Hey, wired has you blocked for a reason. I'm not sending that, and don't think it's cool to try to get other folks to bug him on your behalf, seems kind of fucked"
Just clear as day.
Dal29025-Jul-21 10:13 PM
What I be saying too
CAB was a lets try a million times case, and look what it got people
Shitposters who find it funny fueling him up, and meeps on a target list by some crazy man
I think /vrg/ has done enough relief aid, we kind of need to cut the shit when we see it
Or better yet, the people who supposedly care handling it instead of the people doing it for free
Krial25-Jul-21 10:14 PM
I can agree with slapping wrists, but I also think it needs to be a disciplinary stepladder.
Telling the dude, hey, fuck off, thats not cool and if you don't chill out you're going to get banned.
Is better than one day just nuking him
IMO.
Futanari25-Jul-21 10:15 PM
We tried
Hes stupid
Krial25-Jul-21 10:16 PM
I'm just a huge fan of the step ladder approach.
It gives you credibility, and gives people chances to fix shit.
So when the hammer comes down, they have nothing to say other than they're sorry.
Dal29025-Jul-21 10:17 PM
Well we just tried that though
We did a million slaps on the wrist and stretching it out
Hate to say it, it usually pissed the spergs being slapped off and it created a meme culture to laugh it off
In the case of everyone in question, do you see any change, or de-escalation from a talk
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes25-Jul-21 10:18 PM
You need to catch it early or the shitfucks who like fucking with people will make it into their own personality to try to fuck with everyone in the discord
and the discord as a whole
CAB is a great example
if he was banned at the start of it, he wouldn't be constantly doing this shit because thats what he finds funny
Dal29025-Jul-21 10:19 PM
I think hard action, then patching up later will work out better too
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes25-Jul-21 10:19 PM
They end up turning it into their plaything community to fuck with when they want to have fun
Dal29025-Jul-21 10:19 PM
If they actually give a shit about making a change or trying to not shit down other's throats, they will try and talk about it afterwards(edited)
Basically /vrg/ has had an unfortunately long history of being forced to endure bullshit a million times, they want some shit to get done
Krial
I think if yall ban Eva instead of just getting him to chill out, Eva will absolutely make it a mission to fuck up everything he can
Perrine25-Jul-21 10:46 PM
Speaking in general, avoiding taking action on someone because they might retaliate or behave poorly just incentivizes malice
Krial25-Jul-21 10:46 PM
Oh I'm not saying avoiding it.
Perrine25-Jul-21 10:46 PM
I don't think we should take that into consideration, if at all possible
Krial25-Jul-21 10:46 PM
I'm just saying make sure it's done with proper steps/reasoning and guidance for correct behavior.
Perrine25-Jul-21 10:47 PM
Mm
I just don't want to see a weird behavior where you're banned or kicked for being an asshole, unless you're a really big asshole
Krial25-Jul-21 10:48 PM
Agreed.
Perrine25-Jul-21 10:48 PM
Or, for instance, reputations and cliques playing big roles in who's in and who's out
"We can't ban him, these 20 people will riot"
Fuck'em if they need to be fucked, and let the rest work itself out
Something something invisible handjob of the free market
Pineapples25-Jul-21 11:02 PM
Jesus that was a lot to catch up on. I'm all for keeping CAB banned, but I'll have to dig through some message history for the others to figure out what my opinion is.
But now I have to go back to work...
1
June
Kite, zauber, rest of s-gang, orb, cleet, spray (cant remember his other name)
Black Lily25-Jul-21 11:44 PM
Sevenston...
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<325-Jul-21 11:47 PM
my thing with all three on the block are what advantage is there to them staying other than their feelings
if we are having to honestly debate if their level of shit is worth keeping them around then get rid of them(edited)
what benefit to the community is there to having them stay
Black Lily
Sevenston...
Dal29025-Jul-21 11:49 PM
Sevenston was p cool, talked with him recently on and off(edited)
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<325-Jul-21 11:50 PM
i guess i was walking in circles there a bit
Dal290
Sevenston was p cool, talked with him recently on and off (edited)
Black Lily25-Jul-21 11:50 PM
I see him somewhat often. He's around Lyzerd and Raisen most of the time.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3
my thing with all three on the block are what advantage is there to them staying other than their feelings
Perrine25-Jul-21 11:59 PM
We need to take a proper step back and try to judge if they're legitimately assholes who don't belong here, or just people that we personally don't like. No one here is obligated to like anyone else, and just not getting along with everyone shouldn't be grounds for removal.
If you only try and weigh "is there an advantage" you might go a bit too far with things
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<326-Jul-21 12:01 AM
i will agree there is absolutely a difference between not like someone and actual problems
Perrine26-Jul-21 12:01 AM
Mm
It's always a balancing act
Dal29026-Jul-21 12:01 AM
I balance it on how much doo doo has to be cleaned, and how many people complained to me given I am known as the person deleter man(edited)
People legit thought I could deleticious mamamad from vrc or something
Can't stop evading super autism
Perrine26-Jul-21 12:10 AM
Pfft
FIX IT JUNE
June26-Jul-21 01:28 AM
Black Lily26-Jul-21 01:30 AM
@June did you make your bed
June26-Jul-21 01:32 AM
nope
Black Lily26-Jul-21 01:32 AM
Damn
Pineapples26-Jul-21 02:15 AM
Well, I looked through some random stuff from Eva's message history and didn't see anything all that bad. I don't think he's usually active when I'm around, so I don't really know much about him. Heard plenty of shit, though. I don't know enough to feel that I should vote either way, but I'll trust you guys on that one since you're more familiar with how he is.
As for Carl, it does bug me that he floods the server with inane ramblings about stupid philosophical shit, derailing conversations and probably putting off other people from talking about anything else, but I've never seen him actually being any kind of problem.
I think you guys were saying earlier that he argues with people or something, but I guess I've never read much of what he says since I skim some of it and just don't give a shit what he's going on about. If you guys think he's a problem, I think it'd be best to at least try to talk to him about it. I know it's extremely unlikely that it'd change anything, but I don't think he's ever done anything that'd obviously be worthy of banning him. We don't list our rules and instead explain why something is an issue when it comes up, but it seems like one of those really vague context sensitive situations where it'd be entirely out of the blue if he just suddenly got banned out of nowhere.
I also remember there being a discussion about him just a few months ago and almost everyone seemed to be in agreement that he's not really a problem, just rambles too much sometimes.
Again, I don't really know enough myself to feel like I should vote, so I'll trust you guys on this one as well.
Dal29026-Jul-21 02:27 AM
I think for most people, taking the risk of letting him be was kind of the trial (when we last talked about him as you mentioned), I don't know if it is entirely about the offensives with carl, like I said I don't mind him, but he has an effect that offputs others and types out his every thought in painful detail. My persona line is not realizing the thread isn't his blog to spam off topic junk all day about social structures and government sissy hypno.(edited)
Brainy26-Jul-21 05:40 AM
@Pineapples Summed up my feelings on both cases perfectly.
I'm in 100% agreement with you on both.
/u/GemManBad26-Jul-21 04:31 PM
I made all names the colour of the dark theme background, keep it like this for a few days for a laugh
I’m phoneposting and too lazy to search for Eva, so if someone else wants to, go for it.
Jason26-Jul-21 06:39 PM
i don't really know why we'd ban carl
or eva for that matter
cab i can understand from the perspective of constant harassment
Meeps26-Jul-21 06:39 PM
do we want to make that mod voting channel public viewable but only we can post/react?
Jason26-Jul-21 06:39 PM
carl is just a sperg and eva is just a shitter unless there's more that i dont know about
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<326-Jul-21 06:40 PM
yes and they shit up the server
Meeps
do we want to make that mod voting channel public viewable but only we can post/react?
Pineapples26-Jul-21 06:40 PM
Have fun having to explain what's going on over and over and over.
Meeps26-Jul-21 06:41 PM
yeah true
just figured i'd throw the idea out there for the sake of transparency
Meeps
do we want to make that mod voting channel public viewable but only we can post/react?
Mumu from NYC26-Jul-21 06:41 PM
no
Meeps26-Jul-21 06:41 PM
kinda silly for them to see that with no context anyways(edited)
Jason
i don't really know why we'd ban carl
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<326-Jul-21 06:42 PM
carl will manage to shut down multiple channels at one time with his rambling
and eva just harrasses people to do it
Jason26-Jul-21 06:46 PM
Brainy26-Jul-21 06:48 PM
I feel like people seeing us post about the ban after the vote is done is transparent enough. If people have something to say after the fact, they will say it.(edited)
There's always potential for appeals too. But making the voting process itself viewable opens it up to being hijacked or influenced by cults of popularity.(edited)
Meeps26-Jul-21 06:57 PM
./a.out26-Jul-21 06:58 PM
I agree with rainy, having them see our votes can stir up attempts to manipulate. Better to do the deed and announce after
Krial26-Jul-21 07:58 PM
Posting this here for transparency. A friend of mine reached out and let me know Durandus is telling everyone I want him banned because I said furniture can get fucked at the dance hours, lol.
Dal29026-Jul-21 07:59 PM
HAHA
Krial26-Jul-21 07:59 PM
So I’m just saying right here before it spreads everywhere I don’t think he should be banned
Lol
Dal29026-Jul-21 08:01 PM
HAHAHA WHAT THE FUCK
That is the kind of shit that makes me wonder if the man knows where he is
🔇
@here so ban cab, kick Eva, and Carl is kinda still up for debate.
June26-Jul-21 08:06 PM
I feel like eva should be told why before hes kicked
Black Lily26-Jul-21 08:07 PM
Who the fuck is Durandus
Krial
Posting this here for transparency. A friend of mine reached out and let me know Durandus is telling everyone I want him banned because I said furniture can get fucked at the dance hours, lol.
🔇26-Jul-21 08:07 PM
Furniture should be banned from dance meets. (:
June
I feel like eva should be told why before hes kicked
🔇26-Jul-21 08:09 PM
I plan to.
1
Black Lily
Who the fuck is Durandus
Krial26-Jul-21 08:13 PM
Desktopper
Black Lily26-Jul-21 08:32 PM
Barely even human
Jason26-Jul-21 09:52 PM
ive had very limited interaction with durandus, they seem alright but i think they are actually autistic
so they might take small things like that more seriously
Krial26-Jul-21 09:53 PM
Oh I dislike the guy lol. But that’s not enough to warrant what he thinks is happening imo.
June26-Jul-21 10:42 PM
@🔇
🔇26-Jul-21 10:42 PM
sure
add anything you think would be problematic
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes26-Jul-21 11:03 PM
i talked to him in game and explained it, all is good
Meeps
do we want to make that mod voting channel public viewable but only we can post/react?
Perrine26-Jul-21 11:32 PM
You can see who reacted what, so prepare for that sort of decision to result in drama
Meeps26-Jul-21 11:35 PM
ye
i know
it was just an idea i dont care either way
Krial
Posting this here for transparency. A friend of mine reached out and let me know Durandus is telling everyone I want him banned because I said furniture can get fucked at the dance hours, lol.
Distoibed27-Jul-21 02:24 AM
How to spot a whiny little dramatic bitch
Perrine27-Jul-21 09:51 AM
Literally who
Perrine
Literally who
Stannic27-Jul-21 10:29 AM
furniture that recently came in by accident
think he came through dextrah and kaori and stuck around for a while before making his way from really late eu hours to na hours
incredibly autistic and one of the cringiest flirt i've seen the first time i've met him
June27-Jul-21 11:06 AM
Wtf that's my job
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes27-Jul-21 11:08 AM
Also for info, durandus said that his friend is the one that told him krial wanted him banned
Not sure who since I didn't ask because movie, but he was told by someone else
./a.out27-Jul-21 12:56 PM
The plot thickens
Krial27-Jul-21 01:25 PM
He’s prolly covering up
Because of embarrassment
Because like 6 people all DM’d me he was saying it. Knowing him he’s scared I didn’t just let him run his mouth.
Regardless it literally doesn’t matter. He’ll fuck off eventually I’m sure.
Distoibed27-Jul-21 01:29 PM
didn't liechty bring him in here?
anyways
he supposedly said this when asked about where he came from
"... I was related to 4chan before this because I was in a /pol/ discord server"
do I have to really go through every single channel
June27-Jul-21 02:37 PM
I del them when I see them
Mumu from NYC27-Jul-21 02:37 PM
just to see
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes27-Jul-21 02:39 PM
I don't understand threads
I have no vote
🔇27-Jul-21 02:39 PM
It’s from slack
There is no vote. I used dictatorship to say no
Mumu from NYC
do I have to really go through every single channel
🔇27-Jul-21 02:41 PM
Yes, also don’t forget to check private threads and have moderation view on as well, because users can create threads and specify that mods aren’t allowed.
Mumu from NYC27-Jul-21 02:43 PM
yeah I checked dw
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes27-Jul-21 02:45 PM
I don't see the thread thing in any other discord I check
🔇27-Jul-21 02:45 PM
The fact that it requires a “moderation view” is fucking dumb. Just have users make a group dm or some shit.
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes27-Jul-21 02:45 PM
Where did they come from
🔇27-Jul-21 02:45 PM
It’s a beta feature allowed on “some” servers.
June27-Jul-21 02:45 PM
where the fuck is that
moderation view
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes27-Jul-21 02:45 PM
Gay
🔇27-Jul-21 02:46 PM
On desktop you bring up the “view all threads” thing for the channel, go to the “private threads” tab, and then there’s a check box.
On mobile it looks like this:
Except you can’t delete threads on mobile which is aids af.
June27-Jul-21 02:48 PM
there isnt a private thread option for jannies
oh wiat
in archive there is
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes
I don't see the thread thing in any other discord I check
Stannic27-Jul-21 02:57 PM
you'll need to restart your discord
it's one of those dumb patches that comes out on a certain date
Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.
Stannic27-Jul-21 02:58 PM
like making this stupid shit
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes27-Jul-21 02:58 PM
The threads are visible on this discord, but not others
Stannic27-Jul-21 02:58 PM
huh
it's available in places i frequently visit
that's hella weird
then again those places are also level 3 too
might be discord high server levels getting it first
June27-Jul-21 02:59 PM
its only for 10% of discords
rolling release to check for bugs
we got selected
Stannic27-Jul-21 02:59 PM
oh
i blame asylum
Stannic
i blame asylum
🔇27-Jul-21 03:04 PM
I usually have access to beta features pretty quickly in discord. I blame me too.
Stannic27-Jul-21 03:05 PM
o
🔇
I usually have access to beta features pretty quickly in discord. I blame me too.
Distoibed27-Jul-21 03:16 PM
we're too populair
Black Lily27-Jul-21 05:03 PM
Why are there so many pings
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes27-Jul-21 05:04 PM
@Black Lily I don't know what you mean
/u/GemManBad28-Jul-21 12:32 AM
oh neat we can make threads now
how do i into threads
Black Lily28-Jul-21 12:36 AM
No threads
They're shit
June28-Jul-21 01:01 AM
fuck off invalidum
/u/GemManBad28-Jul-21 01:30 AM
lot of emotion and not a lot reasons
June28-Jul-21 02:07 AM
they were instantly shitposted to make gay porn threads and harrasing moderators
they were also used to bulk ping since they dont respect the normal ping rules
at first the permissions system was broken by default to where we couldnt actually moderate them
they were opt out for posting (on by default) and opt in moderation which is fucking retarded
you can force anyone into a thread by @'ing them
@/u/GemManBad
/u/GemManBad28-Jul-21 02:09 AM
okay that sounds more reasonable
June28-Jul-21 02:10 AM
you have the power to test them, but just do it in a less active channel
/u/GemManBad28-Jul-21 10:24 AM
@mod#mod-voting
Futanari28-Jul-21 10:28 AM
Yes
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes28-Jul-21 10:30 AM
History is kind of just happening since most of it is just political talk
And hardware is already tech talk
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes
History is kind of just happening since most of it is just political talk
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<328-Jul-21 10:38 AM
history and politics are not the same
its current happenings vs happened in the past(edited)
Distoibed28-Jul-21 10:41 AM
Past as in vrg past
Or world past
Cus i have never seen more than 5 convos about the world's past
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<328-Jul-21 10:51 AM
world
theres a lot of history talk in nsfw chat
usually it happens a few time a week
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes28-Jul-21 10:58 AM
It would just devolve into political talk lmao
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<328-Jul-21 10:59 AM
not really
it would be /his/ rules
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes28-Jul-21 10:59 AM
Never went to his
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<328-Jul-21 11:00 AM
/his/ rules are basically has to be history related and everything political goes to /pol/
multiple people were abstaining from that vote(edited)
🔇28-Jul-21 01:56 PM
@Meeps we have 21 people here.
Meeps28-Jul-21 02:00 PM
oh okay, I must have counted wrong
will just remove that vote then
Distoibed28-Jul-21 02:58 PM
@Krial what if we used threads as a testing ground for new channels?
Krial28-Jul-21 02:59 PM
I think enabling threads like at all period when they just got released and are so buggy is prolly a bad idea
Distoibed28-Jul-21 03:00 PM
can't we (jannies/mods) make a thread, @here the chat and look if it survives?
Krial28-Jul-21 03:00 PM
Maybe making a channel dedicated to threads, and letting people have fun there making whatever they want wouldn’t be a bad idea?
That way when people want a history channel, or a niche topic that won’t last long term at all, they can just drop a thread and have fun
Not really a testing ground unless the threads last like a few months of activity but still somewhere they could have dedicated convo
🔇28-Jul-21 03:03 PM
Threads last a max of two weeks. Idk if that’s from first post, or last post tho.
June28-Jul-21 03:23 PM
they can be revived
its last post
tested with a 1hr one
so they just 'archive' by hiding until someone wakes them up
threads can go forever basically
bots dont work with them yet, until the apis get updated
Krial28-Jul-21 03:42 PM
Maybe when they’re fixed, do a test run on one channel?
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes28-Jul-21 05:21 PM
I don't know if it's already been done, but there is a role settings for thread creation and usage for both private and public(edited)
Distoibed28-Jul-21 05:21 PM
yeah
I went balistic on it day1
could have missed some channels
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes28-Jul-21 05:22 PM
It was still available for everyone though
Dal29028-Jul-21 05:29 PM
Oh yeah how do you disable the thread system lol
Mumu from NYC28-Jul-21 05:35 PM
You don't
:)))
Dal290
Oh yeah how do you disable the thread system lol
Distoibed28-Jul-21 05:36 PM
roles
Dal29028-Jul-21 05:41 PM
Futanari28-Jul-21 06:14 PM
apparently this fucker in the back is underage
goes by affeo in vrc(edited)
Dal29028-Jul-21 06:15 PM
FUCK I JUT GOT ANOTHER TIP ABOUT UNDERAGE
AND YES THAT WAS HIM H E IS APPARENTLY ADMITTING IT IN GAME
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<328-Jul-21 06:16 PM
whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy do kids have vr
Futanari28-Jul-21 06:17 PM
i love /trash/(edited)
Azuth28-Jul-21 06:17 PM
cheaper than a babysitter
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<328-Jul-21 06:18 PM
ye
Brainy28-Jul-21 06:31 PM
That's someone who tried to join VRG in the past?
Because I want to add that information to #the-unclean if it is.
Futanari28-Jul-21 06:33 PM
he can only join trash cuz they have no filter
🔇28-Jul-21 06:40 PM
Figured I would add it anyways.
Dal29028-Jul-21 06:42 PM
He came in through mahjong, it is kind of complicated dealing with that because a lot of /trash/ folks and mahjong people are the same, I am not comfortable with the second case of this.
🔇28-Jul-21 06:42 PM
Trash be fuckin kids and grooming them to play mahjong.
Dal29028-Jul-21 06:43 PM
I am actually kind of concerned though
I don't like dealing with the risk of kid bullshit and these guys need to up their filter to at least check if they got minors drifting in
Azuth28-Jul-21 06:45 PM
it's a tough situation because Garvin And Devil Rin don't want mahjong to just be a vrg thing, they want the parlor to be open to anyone who wants to learn mahjong
and it became full of coomers through no fault of their own
Azuth
it's a tough situation because Garvin And Devil Rin don't want mahjong to just be a vrg thing, they want the parlor to be open to anyone who wants to learn mahjong
Dal29028-Jul-21 06:46 PM
Eh, I warned Devil about multiple things and he blew me off until he realized I was right about some of it
The issue that remains it it isn't really Garvin or Devil, it's the /trash/ folks doing mahjong
Proximity issue
Azuth28-Jul-21 06:50 PM
real mahjong parlors are 18+, might not be a bad rule to normalize
Azuth
real mahjong parlors are 18+, might not be a bad rule to normalize
Dal29028-Jul-21 06:51 PM
It fucking sucks, that one Japanese kid didn't does do hurt anybody, but we can't deny the fact that the two parts of /vrg/ are just too intermingled to risk it
Azuth28-Jul-21 06:53 PM
it's one of those things where the rule isn't made until it has to be
🔇28-Jul-21 07:09 PM
All warning signs come from something.
>caution: hot coffee may contain hot liquids
Dal29028-Jul-21 07:10 PM
Caution, this machine is not fuckable, yes, steve tried
Dal290
Caution, this machine is not fuckable, yes, steve tried
Wait what does /trash/ have to do with it? Did I miss something? Are we talking about the board or some other splintercord?
Krial
It’s almost as if... those people know they’re underage
Brainy29-Jul-21 02:32 AM
They might not know they are minors. That's the problem with the "culture" around VRChat, nobody cares to ask if someone is 18+.
If there's any possibility of these users ending up at meetups or in this Discord, we should absolutely document it in #the-unclean so we know to keep them out at all costs.
Brainy
Wait what does /trash/ have to do with it? Did I miss something? Are we talking about the board or some other splintercord?
Dal29029-Jul-21 02:44 AM
The /trash/ meetups are "all inclusive" very open right now
Two kids in the last month/two have started slipping in and some people were not taking it seriously or being tight lipped about it
Brainy29-Jul-21 02:46 AM
Who organizes those meetups?
Dal29029-Jul-21 02:47 AM
I am going to remind said individuals if they are doing sexual things around a minor that they need to cool it down, we don't need that bullshit and risking leaving people who let minors slide is a problem
Brainy29-Jul-21 02:47 AM
Just any random person in random /trash/ thread, or something more specific?
Dal29029-Jul-21 02:47 AM
I am more mad that some knew in some cases
That kind of mentality needs to stop
Brainy29-Jul-21 02:47 AM
The reality is we can't police every person in a world.
Dal29029-Jul-21 02:47 AM
Like right now
Brainy29-Jul-21 02:47 AM
If we know a user is a minor, that user should be removed.(edited)
No warnings, no anything, just removed entirely.
Dal29029-Jul-21 02:48 AM
I try and focus on community business outside of just the discord
This isn't a good direction or something we should be letting slide ever, in vrc and in discord
Brainy29-Jul-21 02:48 AM
Yeah I feel it's an important thing to gate against.
This is why I was pushing so hard (and unpopularly) to maintain a list of banned users so we have some list of minors to keep out.
Especially if we know them to come around on various alts.
Dal29029-Jul-21 02:49 AM
If the same names are involved in this I'm going to bring it up to you guys
For now it's just a nobody new, except two people from what I am aware of
Brainy29-Jul-21 02:50 AM
Because the reality is boards/threads/generals, Discord, and VRC all overlap in this community and if this information is discovered in any vector, then we should be acting to prevent it.
June29-Jul-21 02:50 AM
serious mod talk
nods
Brainy29-Jul-21 02:53 AM
The last VRG meetup I was at had a ton of randos being kicked.
Were those people being invited by friends, or do we just not do invite+ anymore?
Basically do we do anything to prevent random 14-year-old on some VRGers friendlist from joining on them during meetups?
Black Lily29-Jul-21 03:17 AM
Just yell at xano and RedFlag to go orange
Brainy
Who organizes those meetups?
Distoibed29-Jul-21 03:23 AM
Its just a fuckbuddy call
If you want seks
Host it
Brainy
Basically do we do anything to prevent random 14-year-old on some VRGers friendlist from joining on them during meetups?
Distoibed29-Jul-21 03:42 AM
We cant really prevent it, if they want the kid to join, the kid will join, we can only discourage them from doing it by showing them the consequences of doing such acts
Brainy29-Jul-21 03:51 AM
It can be prevented. The way is to tell people they're not getting into anymore meetups unless they can demonstrate they will prevent it.(edited)
Jason29-Jul-21 04:28 AM
well yeah but that's only after we learn their age
It's the nature of the internet
if a 14 year old showed up as a mute and just never told anyone their age we'd have no way to know and there's nothing we really could do about it
Just kick anyone who we confirm is underage on sight, about all you can really do, if there are people still hanging out with them after learning they are underage that's another conversation
Brainy
It can be prevented. The way is to tell people they're not getting into anymore meetups unless they can demonstrate they will prevent it. (edited)
Black Lily29-Jul-21 04:34 AM
We can't police meetups nor should we
Jason
if a 14 year old showed up as a mute and just never told anyone their age we'd have no way to know and there's nothing we really could do about it
Brainy29-Jul-21 04:59 AM
Yeah, but I'm talking about the ones who do know. This situation for example. If they're keeping that person on their friend list knowing they are a minor while still going to meetups on the same account, they're basically willfully enabling this situation / outcome.(edited)
I understand there will be situations where people simply do not know. That's why I was saying earlier we can't make assumptions about people just because minors joined off of them. But if it has happened in the past with someone, then they should know there are consequences if it happens again when it's within their power to prevent it.
Black Lily
We can't police meetups nor should we
🔇29-Jul-21 05:15 AM
We should still tell people that they will be shamed for tryin to fuck kids.
Black Lily29-Jul-21 05:21 AM
Of course
Distoibed29-Jul-21 05:43 AM
I will shame them
Accidents happen
But if you're alright with it
Then its gamer time
Brainy29-Jul-21 06:31 AM
That's my issue. Accidents happen. But negligence is preventable. If the minor is known to someone and they're not taking any precautions, then they're enabling that minor to join an environment with adult activity/advances. It's not something we should tolerate if it keeps happening IMO.
The someone being the person who friended the minor in this case.
Pineapples29-Jul-21 06:40 AM
I don't know about /trash/ meetups, but at the normal meetups people have been pretty good about not letting minors in. I think all we can really do is keep them out of the discord so they don't work their way into /vrg/ more, and make sure others know about them so they can try to actively keep them out.
Brainy29-Jul-21 06:40 AM
I'm behind that 100%
I just want these brats off my Internet
June29-Jul-21 06:43 AM
Kids are trouble
Pineapples29-Jul-21 06:44 AM
Pretty off topic for this channel, but I'm glad communities like this weren't such a thing when I was young. Back then you just played a game online and it didn't matter how old you were.
Brainy29-Jul-21 06:45 AM
But in all seriousness I feel strongly about combating this. I understand you guys don't want to police meetups. But at the end of the day, why does a 20-something or 30-something have 14-year-old on their friend list? Why do they keep enabling the 14-year-old to join them in sexualized environments?
Pineapples29-Jul-21 06:45 AM
Well it's in the /trash/ meetups and other small offshoots, isn't it?
Pineapples
Pretty off topic for this channel, but I'm glad communities like this weren't such a thing when I was young. Back then you just played a game online and it didn't matter how old you were.
Brainy29-Jul-21 06:46 AM
Yeah and back then we didn't feel compelled to share personal information, pictures, or any of the stuff kids do now too. You could be a true anon and nobody cared. lol
Pineapples29-Jul-21 06:46 AM
While we don't police meetups, when it comes to bigger stuff like the /vrg/ meetups on weekends, the community overall has been pretty good about letting others know when someone underage has been joining so people can keep an eye out. Or maybe it worked back then because we were much smaller.
Pineapples
Well it's in the /trash/ meetups and other small offshoots, isn't it?
Brainy29-Jul-21 06:47 AM
That's how it sounded. But my concern is that we've seen other instances with minors popping up in the last month or two as well. I just don't think it's good for us to be complacent about it when I can tell you from experience it's only going to become more common.
June29-Jul-21 06:49 AM
Kids are flooding into vrc, it's not a surprise that vrg is getting some of them
We as a whole touch pretty much the entire vrc community though friends, or friends of friends
Kicking kids out needs to happen but we can't just id check people at the virtual bar door
Gonna have to convince the group to do it, not a few to police it
Pineapples29-Jul-21 06:51 AM
From what I remember, we always relied on lots of people knowing the minors by name so that people could make sure they don't have them friended and start vote kicks.
June29-Jul-21 06:52 AM
I've always stayed far away from that, the only one I've ever known was hibeca
Pineapples29-Jul-21 06:53 AM
Yeah, only ones I've seen myself were Hibeca and U-511. And that was back when we were small and not as worried about it as long as they seemed okay. Plus people didn't frequently get naked at meetups back then, with some exceptions.
June29-Jul-21 06:54 AM
Yeah, it's a real problem now days
Brainy29-Jul-21 06:54 AM
Basically I don't want to see these situations occur:
1.) Minor we've identified and kicked out previously manages to return AND get manually approved (Discord) because tribal knowledge failed us.
2.) Minor persistently joins on adult friend (meetup) because we do nothing to stop adult friend.
June29-Jul-21 06:54 AM
Culture shift
Yeah people need to be shit on for letting kids in
Discord we can keep that list thing up to date right
Brainy29-Jul-21 06:55 AM
The second situation is actually pretty serious. If I saw that happening consistently with the same user (doing nothing to correct it), I would actually report that. It's a major red flag.
June29-Jul-21 06:55 AM
I haven't seen it yet, but I'm fairly certain people would gossip about that quite quick
No one likes kiddy fiddlers
Brainy29-Jul-21 06:57 AM
There was a situation just like that about a year ago. I'd have to ask Rak because I forgot the username. But it was a girl who everyone was always divided on kicking.
The girl being the minor.
But the way she was joining was off mutual friends at the meetups (who again did not want to kick her).
Pineapples29-Jul-21 06:58 AM
That would've been Hibeca.
Brainy29-Jul-21 06:58 AM
That was before I saw PPs at meetups. So yeah, I wouldn't want that now.
Pineapples29-Jul-21 06:59 AM
The trouble was that we were unorganised, didn't even have a discord server, and weren't decided on the issue of minors. Basically as long as they weren't annoying then most people weren't concerned.
Brainy29-Jul-21 06:59 AM
The big problem is VRChat itself. Honestly they don't do enough to prevent this.
I think they are literally pretending it is not a problem for their platform.
Because they rely on the user numbers.
Pineapples
Pretty off topic for this channel, but I'm glad communities like this weren't such a thing when I was young. Back then you just played a game online and it didn't matter how old you were.
Distoibed29-Jul-21 07:00 AM
I think the issue with vrg is
Is that people fuck eachother a lot
Mentally and "physically"
Pineapples29-Jul-21 07:00 AM
Oh yeah, and the only people who got their dicks out at meetups were the two abyssals, who I don't think did it all that often, and Johnny, who knew to keep it in his pants if there were any kids around.
Brainy29-Jul-21 07:00 AM
"Adult content isn't allowed in VRChat. Therefore, minors aren't being exposed to adult content in VRChat."
LMAO I was going to say the one PP I have seen most is Johnny
Goddammit lol
Black Lily29-Jul-21 07:01 AM
And don't remove them when I report them
Brainy29-Jul-21 07:01 AM
That would explain so much
Distoibed29-Jul-21 07:02 AM
Ohyeah
Pineapples29-Jul-21 07:02 AM
Johnny always does that stuff for laughs, but these days people will often turn all their clothes off while they're just hanging out, then others around them will do the same. Definitely not the kind of environment kids should be around since no one is aware of every single person in the meetup at all times.
Brainy29-Jul-21 07:02 AM
Yeah at the last meetup I was at Rak was showing me an avatar and just turned clothes off
I think I cloned an avatar too that was by default naked
Distoibed29-Jul-21 07:03 AM
Just make fun of them
It'll keep them down
Brainy29-Jul-21 07:04 AM
I just want us to be proactive (within reason) about addressing anything to do with minors and that includes enablers (malicious or negligent).(edited)
Pineapples29-Jul-21 07:04 AM
Well, it's not any kind of problem. If people start straight up fucking each other in the meetups, they'll get a lot of shit from people. But just getting naked is pretty casual these days.
(In response to Distoibed, not the minors thing.)
Brainy29-Jul-21 07:05 AM
A couple months ago there was a meetup and two people starting sexing on the spot lol
June29-Jul-21 07:06 AM
...
Brainy29-Jul-21 07:06 AM
As in we were having a casual conversation and in the middle of the group they just went at it
June29-Jul-21 07:06 AM
Getting wild
Brainy29-Jul-21 07:07 AM
It's a party
June29-Jul-21 07:07 AM
I wish people would keep it in their pants more (and keep their pants on) but I don't see it going anywhere but lower and more degenerate
There hasn't been any push back about people fucking in meetups from what I've heard and read
This is the first I've seen anyone mention it really
I've seen it though a few times
In game
Pineapples29-Jul-21 07:08 AM
I think we've just got a ton more open coomers these days.
June29-Jul-21 07:08 AM
For sure
Pineapples29-Jul-21 07:08 AM
Everyone has several nude models and likes to whip them out for fun.
June29-Jul-21 07:08 AM
They might just be tipping the perception scale then?
Brainy29-Jul-21 07:09 AM
Half joking half not here. I just want to prevent any possibility of someone like Moub accidentally soliciting a minor.
Pineapples29-Jul-21 07:09 AM
I don't have any problem with it if they're just hanging out, though.
June29-Jul-21 07:09 AM
Yeah I'm mostly their
Pineapples29-Jul-21 07:09 AM
Oh yeah, if a kid shows up who's interested in that stuff, he'd pick them up pretty fast if he doesn't realise.
June29-Jul-21 07:09 AM
There
Brainy29-Jul-21 07:09 AM
Especially if they're a mute.
Honestly the whole environment just makes it so easy for this situation to happen.
June29-Jul-21 07:10 AM
Vr was a mistake
A happy one
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Pineapples
(In response to Distoibed, not the minors thing.)
Distoibed29-Jul-21 08:21 AM
Depends on intent, i'll never give johhny shit for it
Brainy29-Jul-21 08:40 AM
IIRC Johnny got a lot of shit in the thread back in the day for just saying he had no opinion on minors being at the meetup.
That was back when people were way more well behaved than they are now too.
So it wasn't that controversial, but he got harassed for the longest time over it.
I'd like us to be vigilant, but I don't want us to just assume the worst about people in every situation for that reason.
Black Lily29-Jul-21 09:07 AM
If I remember correctly that's because he was friends with a known underage girl(edited)
Pineapples29-Jul-21 09:09 AM
Yeah, he was one of Hibeca's friends, but he was always really cautious around her. People just love to make shit up to shitpost about people.
Perrine29-Jul-21 09:33 AM
Smite underaged on sight
If they're dumb enough to get found out, they're dumb enough to be a problem
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Jason29-Jul-21 05:12 PM
Shouldn't try to pg-13 meets just kill the children
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes29-Jul-21 05:19 PM
Do this, but also kill horny
Eric29-Jul-21 05:41 PM
trashmeets should kill retards
murder tdas on sight and shit like that
Azuth29-Jul-21 06:22 PM
horniness and good decisions rarely happen at the same time
June29-Jul-21 06:27 PM
thinking while all your blood has vacated to your penis is hard
Jason31-Jul-21 05:31 PM
so this keeps getting schizo posted
>claim to be ousting discord pedos
>censor names
Distoibed31-Jul-21 05:36 PM
I like it
>FUCKING DISCORD PEDO MODS!!!!!!!!!
ok, who is the pedo?
>won't tell ^-^
Jason
so this keeps getting schizo posted
June31-Jul-21 05:38 PM
eh???
the fuck this have to do with anything
Distoibed31-Jul-21 05:39 PM
maybe the mahjong thing with pedos being in the spotlight again?
June31-Jul-21 05:39 PM
I mean the pfp doesnt even match anyone in vrg
Distoibed31-Jul-21 05:39 PM
probably the /vrlg/ discord
Jason31-Jul-21 05:40 PM
Someone in the thread brought up the good point that not only are the names censored but the dates are too, so no way of knowing how old it actually is
id imagine ancient
June31-Jul-21 05:41 PM
only member with a close pfp is @Angel✰ᴺᴱᵀ ᓚᘏᗢ
Distoibed31-Jul-21 05:42 PM
all I'm seeing is this
June31-Jul-21 05:42 PM
looking at mutal friends their just coomer trash
yeah exactly
I mean pattern recognition is easy, even with blur, no other members in this discord are even close to the same pfp(edited)
its 100% irrelevant
Jason31-Jul-21 05:47 PM
I mean i already knew it wasn't this discord purely on the fact that the guy just admitted to being 15
we would have kicked him and talked about it already had it been
June31-Jul-21 05:47 PM
yah but that could be dms or something
Black Lily31-Jul-21 07:55 PM
Giving Grizly a special baby yoda role till midnight
Futanari31-Jul-21 08:00 PM
Why
What he do?
Black Lily31-Jul-21 08:00 PM
He said baby yoda
Futanari31-Jul-21 08:01 PM
He always spams that
Distoibed31-Jul-21 08:33 PM
beb baby yoda
June
yah but that could be dms or something
🔇31-Jul-21 11:26 PM
dms dont have role colors
Brainy31-Jul-21 11:34 PM
That was posted here or in the thread?
🔇
dms dont have role colors
June31-Jul-21 11:57 PM
true
Brainy
That was posted here or in the thread?
Black Lily01-Aug-21 01:17 AM
Thread, I don't think it's from any /vrg/ discord
Stannic01-Aug-21 04:17 AM
inb4 vrca
Black Lily01-Aug-21 04:39 AM
vrca is dead
Futanari01-Aug-21 08:36 AM
vrca is where all the pedos are at
Eric01-Aug-21 11:37 AM
ok when are we banning eva
dude had the audacity to try to fuck up an event
his shitty entry wasnt enough
trying to take the camera and shit
its about time
Futanari01-Aug-21 11:59 AM
could of kicked him
Eric01-Aug-21 12:00 PM
we did obviously
but if hes doing that, hes gonna get worse
Krial01-Aug-21 12:06 PM
i dont think it was bad enough to ban him
maybe a week kick or some shit.
i wouldnt consider taking the camera as fucking up the event, it was streamed elsewhere and recorded there
the camera was just a prop mostly and didnt actually do much
crashing etc, that's fucking up an event
just my 2 cents
Perrine01-Aug-21 12:16 PM
The problem is when people start linking "fucking with things" and "I do funny things"
We had to ban a fucktard from Nuggetfest because he thought it would be funny to spam the radio constantly and put stickers on 4 digit dollar optics
Perrine
We had to ban a fucktard from Nuggetfest because he thought it would be funny to spam the radio constantly and put stickers on 4 digit dollar optics
Distoibed01-Aug-21 12:24 PM
irl event?
Perrine01-Aug-21 12:25 PM
Yeah. Nuggetfest is "100+ /k/ommandos go innawoods for a weekend, shoot guns, eat, drink, and be merry"
Goes surprisingly really well, presumably because trolls and idiots get filtered by "driving to Missouri" and "not dying innawoods for a few days"
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes01-Aug-21 01:58 PM
>the one black guy
he truly is the token black guy
Perrine01-Aug-21 02:15 PM
He's a cool dude
ExecutiveJackbotBOT01-Aug-21 02:15 PM
Das racist
Perrine01-Aug-21 02:16 PM
Also he was trying to form an N with his rifles in that picture
You can see he did it backwards by accident
Also refused to give out n word passes, said we didn't need them
Eric
ok when are we banning eva
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<301-Aug-21 03:49 PM
Mumu from NYC01-Aug-21 04:00 PM
Distoibed01-Aug-21 04:09 PM
Sure thing
Distoibed01-Aug-21 04:17 PM
done
Krial01-Aug-21 06:06 PM
Fair deal. But someone calling for the kick should prolly tell him the terms
Jason01-Aug-21 06:11 PM
orange
Krial01-Aug-21 06:11 PM
Peach
Kinda
I may be color blind
Jason01-Aug-21 06:12 PM
it makes me want kraft mac and cheese
it could be your monitor's color settings also
but for me at least this is quite orange
Krial01-Aug-21 06:13 PM
Well
Either way it’s cute
Krial
Fair deal. But someone calling for the kick should prolly tell him the terms
Distoibed01-Aug-21 06:19 PM
we've never done it before though, and he knew he basically had it coming
Krial01-Aug-21 06:19 PM
I’ll do it then since he’s dm’ing me asking what happened lol.
Distoibed01-Aug-21 06:19 PM
+ everybody wanted it but nobody did it
so I did it quick and dirty
Krial01-Aug-21 06:20 PM
Is he banned bannned or kicked for like a week
I’d rather not look like an idiot
Perrine01-Aug-21 06:21 PM
Kick reason says his farts smelled
Perrine
Kick reason says his farts smelled
Distoibed01-Aug-21 06:24 PM
You think they dont?
Krial
Is he banned bannned or kicked for like a week
Distoibed01-Aug-21 06:26 PM
From what I gathered: its a kick that says "unless you shape up, you're not gonna make it past welcome"
Like cab and maybe Carl?
Distoibed
From what I gathered: its a kick that says "unless you shape up, you're not gonna make it past welcome"
Krial02-Aug-21 01:49 AM
I added him to message him about it.
Krial02-Aug-21 09:01 PM
What was the name of that femoid coomer that was friends with wiz that we kicked
I’m 80% spas has the same pfp as them snd just thought about that.
The crazy one we just told “no thanks” and they said they’d report the discord
Azuth02-Aug-21 09:06 PM
I saw I had a mutual non-vrg friend with him, asked the friend and apparently he's hotheaded and has expressed active interest in getting to the assetcord
apparently he was in the old one too
ExecutiveJackbotBOT02-Aug-21 10:00 PM
GAMER???
Futanari02-Aug-21 10:16 PM
Soon™️
Eric02-Aug-21 11:42 PM
@🔇@Futanari unironically dont change this
the most based change in awhile
🔇02-Aug-21 11:42 PM
Hahaha it’s funny af.
Eric02-Aug-21 11:42 PM
i can finally fucking use general and it wont die
slowly keep gimping the chat
add a slow mode
then just hide the channel
Futanari02-Aug-21 11:43 PM
Suffering
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<302-Aug-21 11:43 PM
dot this means war
Krial02-Aug-21 11:43 PM
Do we get to see a dick measuring contest
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes02-Aug-21 11:47 PM
Imposter amogus
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<302-Aug-21 11:47 PM
yes
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes02-Aug-21 11:47 PM
I DEMAND holy chat
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<302-Aug-21 11:47 PM
nsfw chat will live on
🔇02-Aug-21 11:52 PM
Can’t even deal with the bantz.
Stannic02-Aug-21 11:52 PM
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<302-Aug-21 11:52 PM
it will be free
Pineapples02-Aug-21 11:52 PM
Get home from work, first thing I see is porn spam in #general.
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes02-Aug-21 11:52 PM
as you do
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<302-Aug-21 11:52 PM
thank dot for that
Pineapples02-Aug-21 11:53 PM
Birbmang posted it. It's not Dot's fault if someone's a baby who throws tantrums when they don't get what they want.
🔇02-Aug-21 11:54 PM
I’m just leaving the two that porn posted in general in gay baby for two weeks.
Mumu from NYC02-Aug-21 11:55 PM
based
Stannic02-Aug-21 11:56 PM
extend it to a month next time
Pineapples02-Aug-21 11:56 PM
I think a week's fine if someone's not usually any trouble.
🔇02-Aug-21 11:56 PM
They only post in nsfw-chat anyways, so it’s not a punishment for them anyways.
Stannic02-Aug-21 11:57 PM
yeah
i'd rather stamp it out for throwing a baby tantrum like that
Futanari03-Aug-21 12:01 AM
They live to post gay shit
Black Lily03-Aug-21 12:28 AM
Why do they need to post images in #nsfw-chat when #nsfw-pics is literally right above it
🔇03-Aug-21 12:29 AM
@#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<303-Aug-21 12:29 AM
reaction images
gifs
🔇03-Aug-21 12:29 AM
When has that even been used in nsfw-chat?
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<303-Aug-21 12:30 AM
a good amount
🔇03-Aug-21 12:30 AM
Not really. 90% of the time it’s just porn and tiddies.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<303-Aug-21 12:31 AM
no one complained about nsfw chat people like it the way it is
and its the most popular channel
why mess with it(edited)
nsfwchat is the channel where people can do what they want without worrying about rules
🔇03-Aug-21 12:31 AM
Because sometimes people need to be reminded they are stupid and vulnerable. (:
Jason03-Aug-21 12:32 AM
whyd birb get timeout and noop got gaybaby
surely birb should get gay baby
🔇03-Aug-21 12:32 AM
Different mods, different responses.
Pineapples03-Aug-21 12:32 AM
Pretty sure people have always gotten timeout for porn in general. Plus it was spam.
🔇03-Aug-21 12:32 AM
Also birb spammed like 15 images, where noop and shonen posted 4 images while talking.
Pineapples03-Aug-21 12:33 AM
Only 15 because I was looking at the time.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<303-Aug-21 12:33 AM
nsfw chat is good containment and keeps shit out of other channels
Pineapples03-Aug-21 12:33 AM
Probably would've been hundreds otherwise.
🔇03-Aug-21 12:33 AM
People need to contain their horny outside of the internet.
Pineapples03-Aug-21 12:34 AM
I'm fine with people being able to post images in nsfw chat because images are handy during conversations sometimes. Might as well be irc otherwise. That said, I don't care if they can only post them in the pics channel either.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<303-Aug-21 12:36 AM
they way i always saw it was that nsfw chat is the wild west, and nsfw images is for dumping porn
🔇03-Aug-21 12:36 AM
Yeah, but people just dump porn in nsfw chat as well.
Or use it as fun posting where people actually visit.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<303-Aug-21 12:37 AM
hopping channels is annoying
Jason03-Aug-21 12:37 AM
ssssswhy moderate images in nsfw chat
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<303-Aug-21 12:37 AM
just let it be the catch all no rules channel
Futanari03-Aug-21 12:38 AM
Yeah let me post gore bros
Haha
🔇03-Aug-21 12:38 AM
TFW I’ll never be able to actually incorporate #nsfw-chat as #general-3
Futanari03-Aug-21 12:38 AM
So funny
No rules
Means i can harass
So
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<303-Aug-21 12:39 AM
if images get removed from it will most likely cause a huge riot
no one is asking for images to be removed from it
🔇03-Aug-21 12:39 AM
It was fine except for like 3 people.
Futanari03-Aug-21 12:39 AM
Fuck you
Im removing image perms
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<303-Aug-21 12:39 AM
im fine voting on it
🔇03-Aug-21 12:39 AM
Votes are gay
Pineapples03-Aug-21 12:40 AM
I don't see any particular need for there to be no images.
🔇03-Aug-21 12:40 AM
Especially for a shitpost
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<303-Aug-21 12:40 AM
but id much rather have a channel where people dont have to feel moderated
🔇03-Aug-21 12:41 AM
I still moderate nsfw-chat tho.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<303-Aug-21 12:41 AM
i mean ya
Futanari03-Aug-21 12:41 AM
Ok we dont moderate it
Let me harass people then
Deal?
Ok
🔇03-Aug-21 12:41 AM
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Pineapples03-Aug-21 12:42 AM
It's not no moderation. It's literally just general but with nsfw content allowed.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<303-Aug-21 12:42 AM
yes
and most people want that
thats why it has more than double the posts of anyother channel
Pineapples03-Aug-21 12:43 AM
Or they just talk in there because everyone else is.
For sure there are a ton of coomers who literally can't go 5 minutes without talking about sucking dick, but then a lot of other people active in the channel are only there because that's where a bunch of other people are.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<303-Aug-21 12:45 AM
I always used it because it was the channel that didn't have strict rules
Pineapples03-Aug-21 12:45 AM
It literally has one less rule than general.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<303-Aug-21 12:45 AM
yes
Jason03-Aug-21 12:46 AM
i dont get why people are so determined to fuck with nsfw chat
Pineapples03-Aug-21 12:46 AM
Which is also one of only two rules in general.
Jason
i dont get why people are so determined to fuck with nsfw chat
Pineapples03-Aug-21 12:46 AM
Yeah, I don't see any reason to mess with it either.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<303-Aug-21 12:46 AM
nsfw chat was fine
🔇03-Aug-21 12:46 AM
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<303-Aug-21 12:46 AM
no reason to fuck with it
🔇03-Aug-21 12:46 AM
I’m bored and like chaos. It’s always been like this.
Krial03-Aug-21 12:50 AM
Nsfw is no rules for the user
Is also no rules for moderation
Just like 4chan.
Black Lily03-Aug-21 12:53 AM
I don't understand why they didn't just bitch about it in feedback instead of doing something to get themselves punished
Jason03-Aug-21 12:53 AM
general 1-2 = 4channel
nsfw chat = 4chan
🔇03-Aug-21 12:54 AM
People are retarded.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Pineapples03-Aug-21 12:55 AM
People always sperg out and make things worse for themselves. I stopped trying to understand why a long time ago.
Black Lily
Why do they need to post images in #nsfw-chat when #nsfw-pics is literally right above it
Brainy03-Aug-21 01:01 AM
You can modify the permissions for #nsfw-chat to disallow people from embedding images in it. Then they would be forced to use #nsfw-pics for that purpose.
Brainy
You can modify the permissions for #nsfw-chat to disallow people from embedding images in it. Then they would be forced to use #nsfw-pics for that purpose.
🔇03-Aug-21 01:02 AM
We did, people seethed. Lol
Brainy03-Aug-21 01:02 AM
Tell them to grow up. lol
Black Lily03-Aug-21 01:03 AM
I don't care either way
🔇03-Aug-21 01:03 AM
We can’t.
Pineapples03-Aug-21 01:03 AM
I'm fine with telling people to deal with it, but I just don't see any good reason to not allow images anyway.
🔇03-Aug-21 01:03 AM
I’m half convinced #nsfw-chat is full of 12year olds in need of a beating.
Pineapples03-Aug-21 01:04 AM
Well yeah, they can't function without talking about sex and hitting on each other non-stop. They're clearly fucked in the head.
I really don't know how they don't get bored of saying the exact same shit all day every day.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<303-Aug-21 01:04 AM
is there a point to disabling it though
🔇03-Aug-21 01:05 AM
Watching people seethe and laugh at them. (:
Brainy03-Aug-21 01:05 AM
I'm more wondering why we need two channels for porn posting if both are serving an identical purpose (posting of chat and images)
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<303-Aug-21 01:06 AM
one is for dumping
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3
one is for dumping
Brainy03-Aug-21 01:07 AM
Looks like both are being used interchangeably for discussion though, regardless of intent
Brainy
Looks like both are being used interchangeably for discussion though, regardless of intent
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<303-Aug-21 01:08 AM
people were just talking in pics because of chat having images disabled pics rarely has anything more than a comment on the image(edited)
Krial03-Aug-21 01:09 AM
Nsfw pics rarely if ever has a lot of chatter in it
See plenty here. But again it just depends on what you want.
🔇03-Aug-21 01:10 AM
Idk why you guys can’t just accept the average user is retarded.
Brainy03-Aug-21 01:10 AM
If it's not harming anything and you want multiple channels, then it's not harming anything.
Brainy
See plenty here. But again it just depends on what you want.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<303-Aug-21 01:10 AM
i mean theres posts but people are not really spending all day talking it
its very limited
Brainy03-Aug-21 01:11 AM
If it were me though, since it's not being enforced either way and a picture is highly likely to illicit a response either way, I'd just combine both channels to remove redundancy.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<303-Aug-21 01:11 AM
also nsfw chat is the only place for nsfw memes
🔇03-Aug-21 01:11 AM
No it’s not?
Post them in fun posting just spoiler them.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3
also nsfw chat is the only place for nsfw memes
Brainy03-Aug-21 01:12 AM
But if none of this is being enforced, what do any ascribed conditions on either channel matter?
🔇03-Aug-21 01:12 AM
I swear you retards have never heard of spoilering things.
Krial03-Aug-21 01:12 AM
Should birb be given gay baby
And not time out
🔇03-Aug-21 01:12 AM
Nah
He spammed
Krial03-Aug-21 01:12 AM
Ah
Kkkk
Pineapples03-Aug-21 01:13 AM
>just combine both channels to remove redundancy.
Back when we made hornyposting against the rules for #general, we told people many, many times to take that stuff to what was then the one nsfw channel. Of course they refused because they're retards.
🔇
I swear you retards have never heard of spoilering things.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<303-Aug-21 01:13 AM
spoilering hentai shitposts in general will still get you bapped
🔇03-Aug-21 01:13 AM
I’ve never bapped people for that.
🔇
He spammed
Pineapples03-Aug-21 01:13 AM
And just any porn in #general has always been timeout anyway.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<303-Aug-21 01:14 AM
but again i dont know why we are trying do change shit when it was fine beforehand
Pineapples03-Aug-21 01:14 AM
Yeah, I don't see any reason at all to change it.
🔇03-Aug-21 01:14 AM
I mean I explained my reason. Idk why you keep asking.
Brainy03-Aug-21 01:14 AM
Only reasons I could see are 1.) redundancy and 2.) more work for moderators, since you now have two channels to moderate instead of one.(edited)
But if neither of those are issues to you, then it's not harming anything either way I guess.
Futanari03-Aug-21 01:19 AM
Cry more
Brainy03-Aug-21 01:20 AM
Not crying, I honestly don't care either way.
I can moderate all the channels you throw at me~
🔇03-Aug-21 01:25 AM
If you do #happening it’s good enough. (:
Brainy03-Aug-21 01:28 AM
That's honestly the only real "problem" channel on here I've seen so far.
Sometimes see bad stuff in other channels, but it's few and far between.
Pineapples03-Aug-21 01:30 AM
Yeah, there's always someone triggering everyone else in the politics channel. It always makes me laugh when they start complaining to us about it.
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Mumu from NYC03-Aug-21 03:56 AM
Pinned a message.
wh y is asylum so based
Krial03-Aug-21 04:05 AM
I think the current separation is fine. Nsfw pics rarely needs any attention.
If any. It’s a dumping ground.(edited)
Azuth03-Aug-21 04:20 AM
Should we keep the nuke profile pic?
the server's survived a month already
Krial03-Aug-21 04:39 AM
Its different now isnt it?
Distoibed03-Aug-21 04:51 AM
We have the nuke because we dont have a better one
if we do do a mod/jannie number reduction i think server activity should be a consideration
as much as i like guno here is a good example
Pineapples03-Aug-21 05:20 AM
It's often more a matter of having someone around whenever possible.
We got Guno because he was active in the voice channels, which most of the rest of us weren't, and we'd been getting complaints about people in there frequently.
And I don't think we've ever just booted a mod since it doesn't really hurt having more around.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<303-Aug-21 05:22 AM
and im not advocating booting anyone i was just saying since the vote was put out i would first look at the ones who are inactive
i think the more the better
but if we were activity would be the place to look first
Pineapples03-Aug-21 05:25 AM
I think some of us just lurk a lot. I don't join most conversations I see, but I can still keep an eye on things and step in if needed.
Brainy03-Aug-21 07:57 AM
Yeah if someone is active in voice and looking over things there, I don't think it should matter if their text activity is zero.
Same with if some people have valuable perspectives / experience (like historical insight into some of these users we've seen pop up in #welcome).
I really appreciate there are people who have been around long enough to let us know the histories of big problem users.
Also the process we're using to keep the server in good standing kind of requires we have a lot of Jannies. I'm very active in #happening and a few others, but I don't really participate in the generals at all. The bot review still isn't working which means we need people deleting and/or marking for later deletion whatever they see that crosses into violent hate speech especially.
Even if all a person does is post (or lurk) in #nsfw-pics I think that has value.
Pineapples03-Aug-21 08:48 AM
Just a heads up for whoever's around for the next few hours or something, this guy(don't even know what to refer to him as, so just posting a picture) was image spamming a little in #general because he didn't like a conversation people were having. It wasn't a whole lot and he stopped before I even saw it, plus the conversation continued despite his efforts so it didn't cause any real trouble.
I've been keeping an eye on things and he hasn't been much trouble since then, but I'm going to bed soon so if you get any pings about him or see him shitting the place up, feel free to deal with him.
I remember him triggering people a bit in the past, but don't remember him being all that much of a problem, so I let this one thing go and am just gonna keep an eye out if he causes any more trouble.
Distoibed03-Aug-21 08:57 AM
He's like Eva lite, he likes pissing people off, but he'll have genuine intent of conversing with you if it's a topic that he knows
Working out, some waifus, cooking, guns? Healthy lifestyle and such
Pineapples03-Aug-21 09:09 AM
Yeah, that's the impression I have of him.
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Brainy03-Aug-21 09:18 AM
Just in case they ever turn up here
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes03-Aug-21 10:01 AM
There's also 2 threads for nsfw
Cant delete them
Perrine03-Aug-21 10:27 AM
People use nsfw chat?
Krial03-Aug-21 10:33 AM
That’s strongbeef
Up above
He’s eva lite yeah
Nice dude though but never causes any real problems
Mumu from NYC03-Aug-21 01:25 PM
I have noticed that too, Where in their sole purpose of certain individuals in the discord is to give bad takes and generally irritate people
Certainly does not help a vast majority of the people only talk in nsfw now so that general has slowed down significantly to actually notice it
🔇03-Aug-21 01:28 PM
Yes.
Nsfw-chat is general. No one uses actual general now except to escape dick.
I'm gonna play devil's advocate but like, is it really that hard to just keep lying while you can argue that when faced with confrontation most people crumble but like cmon now
Stannic03-Aug-21 01:43 PM
they keep lying and eventually info leaks out
or a groomer is gonna figure out
both road leads to hell for this kid's psyche anyways
Mumu from NYC03-Aug-21 01:44 PM
But how, why would you ever admit that to anyone back in my day if you lied you were in for the long-con
Stannic03-Aug-21 01:44 PM
what long-con
i joined v groups when i was 15 and it was easy to say i just wanted to play video games
now coming to these groups and wanting to get their rocks off is uh
banhammer time
Mumu from NYC03-Aug-21 01:46 PM
I just think the newer generation are awful at lying and being consistent, again I am not defending this
Stannic03-Aug-21 01:47 PM
feels like the same as it ever were
Mumu from NYC03-Aug-21 01:47 PM
Maybe I'm just an exception liar then
Stannic03-Aug-21 01:47 PM
the ones like the one in the pic will crumble easily as they've likely never had confrontation and then figure out a lie on the spot
or it's a sheltered child
Stannic
or it's a sheltered child
Mumu from NYC03-Aug-21 01:48 PM
This is why you beat your children
Stannic03-Aug-21 01:48 PM
just like how scrambledonion figured out ivan832 being underageb&
Mumu from NYC03-Aug-21 01:48 PM
It teaches actions have consequences
Stannic03-Aug-21 01:49 PM
I guess lmao
parents should stop giving their kids a quest smh
at least give them an xbox or ps5 and make them toxic on cod
He is currently covering his ass and is going to have a "birthday" miraculously aging up to be 18
Black Lily03-Aug-21 04:55 PM
Like Sticks did
Dal29003-Aug-21 04:57 PM
I didn't see enough of the discussion about nsfw-chat but it honestly looks like we should reel in non-discussed changes like changing channels or messing with the coomers, shit doesn't seem right
I don't think jannies should be able to modify channels, not sure if that was what it was, but we are handing it to just about anybody who ask and the idea was to take it away if it was abused
Dal290
I don't think jannies should be able to modify channels, not sure if that was what it was, but we are handing it to just about anybody who ask and the idea was to take it away if it was abused
June03-Aug-21 04:58 PM
I didn't modify it, I asked asylum directly
its just a harmless name change
Dal29003-Aug-21 04:59 PM
Was it discussed here, dealing with a house leak issue so I can't see shit
From what I saw image perms were messed with as well
June03-Aug-21 04:59 PM
no, that was in feedback
Dal29003-Aug-21 04:59 PM
Which lead to people sperging
June03-Aug-21 04:59 PM
oh, that was earlier in here
not me
Dal29003-Aug-21 05:00 PM
The way I see it letting people in moderation poke the coomers, then pinning them with punishment for retaliating is bullshit
I may not have all the facts but that is what it looks like just poking back in
Jason03-Aug-21 05:01 PM
It's genuinely the most enjoyable chat and I still don't understand why so many people feel the need to fuck with it(edited)
Frankly it's what pushed me to try and become a jannie in the first place
if the issue is it becoming a general
maybe focus on general 1 and 2 instead
Why are there two if 1 apparently isn't getting enough use
Dal29003-Aug-21 05:02 PM
That is what sucks, it was designed to be a containment zone, lets build you your own zone, people enjoyed the atmosphere and it dominated all of the generals after a while
go up to here, and above -below this is your context
dont just spew your feelings
Jason
It's genuinely the most enjoyable chat and I still don't understand why so many people feel the need to fuck with it (edited)
Black Lily03-Aug-21 05:04 PM
People don't like how /vrg/ has become dominated by coomers
June03-Aug-21 05:04 PM
no shit
Jason03-Aug-21 05:04 PM
Its 4chan
they should go back to reddit
June03-Aug-21 05:04 PM
strawman
it looks more like a community split, or at least a withering off of the minority (non-coomers)
Jason03-Aug-21 05:04 PM
Nsfw general was not /vrlg/ it's not hooking up and making trash meets to fuck in
but naming it trash did put it one step closer to thtat
June03-Aug-21 05:05 PM
that names funny fuck you
Jason03-Aug-21 05:05 PM
It's people talking about random shit and posting porn which is what 4chan has been about for as long as ive been on it
June03-Aug-21 05:05 PM
I've never ever seen another server with "NSFW-Chat"
like its just asking from a third person perspective to be the coomer chat where you hookup or talk about jacking off
its only in our community where it has a more explicit role
Jason03-Aug-21 05:06 PM
Because like it or not lewd shit is a part of 4chan and it is certainly a part of vrg
Dal29003-Aug-21 05:06 PM
Getting back, using my computer through an extension cable, a leak was coming through a light in the other room so it's a full shut the shit down situation
Jason03-Aug-21 05:06 PM
Why suddenly its making people seethe is beyond me
June03-Aug-21 05:06 PM
because it crossed a threshold
Jason03-Aug-21 05:06 PM
When
Where
What on earth happened
Dal29003-Aug-21 05:07 PM
Yeah I read what confirmed my complaint, a jannie was able to modify a channel, instigate users, then we are punishing the users for being upset about it?
Black Lily03-Aug-21 05:07 PM
When people started joining just to fuck in vr and not to play vr games
June03-Aug-21 05:07 PM
people like to filter out shit out they dont mind, but once it has a whole becomes the common feeling of, oh theres more porn and coomers and trash people than my friends who are just x
Dal290
Yeah I read what confirmed my complaint, a jannie was able to modify a channel, instigate users, then we are punishing the users for being upset about it?
June03-Aug-21 05:07 PM
dont think hes a jannie
Jason03-Aug-21 05:07 PM
we already filter for that
Black Lily
When people started joining just to fuck in vr and not to play vr games
Jason03-Aug-21 05:07 PM
who can you name who regularly posts in nsfw chat that does that
June03-Aug-21 05:08 PM
oh yup double checked, they are a jannie
so yes, why does jannie have the ability to change permissions
that linked post is the one restoring image perms though
Jason03-Aug-21 05:08 PM
beef changed the permissions, i thought i reverted them but apparently not
Dal29003-Aug-21 05:08 PM
Who was the original modifyer
Jason
who can you name who regularly posts in nsfw chat that does that
Black Lily03-Aug-21 05:08 PM
I speaking generally not specifically about #nsfw-chat or discord(edited)
Jason03-Aug-21 05:10 PM
so
What
we're gonna make vrg sfw?
June03-Aug-21 05:10 PM
@Dal290
was just checking myself
Black Lily03-Aug-21 05:10 PM
No, that's not even possible at this point
Jason03-Aug-21 05:10 PM
no of course not the porn channel is still gonna be there, we just cant talk in it for some reason?
June03-Aug-21 05:10 PM
its dot being a dickhead
Dal29003-Aug-21 05:11 PM
So dot has access to changing a channel's permissions, did something stupid, and we punished people for being angry
Black Lily03-Aug-21 05:11 PM
I'm not going to suggest anything. I just wanted to try to explain why some people hate #nsfw-chat
June03-Aug-21 05:12 PM
so thats both dot and invalid who've done the whole, 'fuck with nsfw-chat by removing images etc' thing
Black Lily
I'm not going to suggest anything. I just wanted to try to explain why some people hate #nsfw-chat
June03-Aug-21 05:12 PM
yeah I was also talking in the general community aspect
this channel harassment thing is different
Dal29003-Aug-21 05:13 PM
A funny rename isn't an issue
Denying image perms in a highly active channel kinda is
June03-Aug-21 05:13 PM
might want to consider not letting this happen in the future, people dont like moderatiors that are dicks
yup
Dal29003-Aug-21 05:13 PM
I am just going to say it though
June03-Aug-21 05:13 PM
its basically painting a target on us
Dal29003-Aug-21 05:13 PM
I don't think dot is jannie material
Jason03-Aug-21 05:13 PM
A funny name change isn't an issue on it's own
but when it's part of a series of just fucking with one channel
It paints a pretty clear picture
June03-Aug-21 05:14 PM
yeah, my timing is poor since I didn't know it was just fucked with
Dal29003-Aug-21 05:14 PM
Eh, I don't think it'
's poor time fucking enter key, legit renaming isn't even a crime
June03-Aug-21 05:14 PM
I wasn't on at all yesterday, and I'm only on lunch break right now
Dal29003-Aug-21 05:15 PM
But we did have users get smacked with the fuck you bat and were manhandled because one of our jannies started to mess with the users
June03-Aug-21 05:15 PM
also, I agree that dot has abused the power given to him, (what a fucking surprise )
oh sorry, forgot @Futanari
didn't ping him yet
Dal29003-Aug-21 05:16 PM
Do we need to put this kind of thing to a vote or accept that we already voted to boop dot out as a jannie and undid that to spare his feelings
June03-Aug-21 05:16 PM
no, its just us two dal
Dal29003-Aug-21 05:17 PM
Well then, I am going by aslyum's shralinka law and what we already discussed, feel free to remove or add jannie as you see fit
June03-Aug-21 05:17 PM
if you want to esclate this go ahead, ping mod, jannie, asylum, black lily, krial directly(edited)
otherwise they will chime in eventually
Black Lily03-Aug-21 05:17 PM
I agree with you guys for the most part
Dal290
So dot has access to changing a channel's permissions, did something stupid, and we punished people for being angry
Distoibed03-Aug-21 05:18 PM
any janny
Jason03-Aug-21 05:18 PM
Shitposts are only fun now and then, if it's constant shitposting people will just find the discord unpleasant and go somewhere else
Black Lily03-Aug-21 05:19 PM
I've been going through perms and fixing some things
1
Jason
Shitposts are only fun now and then, if it's constant shitposting people will just find the discord unpleasant and go somewhere else
June03-Aug-21 05:19 PM
for sure
Dal29003-Aug-21 05:20 PM
I'll just demote then put it in actions, if you guys disagree with me we can re-jannie him
June03-Aug-21 05:20 PM
he hasn't spoke up yet
let the man defend himself
thats not right
you shouldn't have made it a jab with the smiley face and so much shit in the open
We currently have multiple people serving out punishments for two weeks
Jason03-Aug-21 05:22 PM
The smiley does seem a bit "haha fuck you" dot has done this like thirty times though and is gonna keep doing it cause its dot
June03-Aug-21 05:23 PM
sure, but that felt too one sided and instant of a decision
Dal29003-Aug-21 05:23 PM
It is kind of fair to take some kind of action and discuss it, we can let the man speak his mind if you want but I have already brunted a lot of complaints and uneasy feelings about him doing shit
Jason03-Aug-21 05:23 PM
i did not see the spam so i cant say for sure but i still feel like a 1 week full ass timeout is harsh on birb
Dal290
We currently have multiple people serving out punishments for two weeks
Mumu from NYC03-Aug-21 05:23 PM
damn are we going to end up on jcs
June03-Aug-21 05:23 PM
yeah, but you could have told him before yeeting him
hell hes probably at work right now anyways(edited)
did you even ask the other mods
Dal29003-Aug-21 05:24 PM
I will talk to him about it afterwards, you know I don't shy away from conflict, but I don't like this current direction of signing up anybody(including dot) then backing big goofs that get users fucked
June03-Aug-21 05:24 PM
I didn't vote him in, it was just something we had to deal with
you have to roll with the cards you're dealt
Dal29003-Aug-21 05:26 PM
@🔇@Distoibed@Meeps@/u/GemManBad@./a.out@Pineapples I removed dot's jannie as we previously discussed adding and removing jannie as we see fit, kinda tired of hearing complaints about dot doing dumb shit and catching up from yesterday, we need to utilize that ability, feel free to give your thoughts
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Distoibed03-Aug-21 05:26 PM
90% of jannies are carried over from the original mod team cus when the nuka happened, they were mods
honestly, part of the voting thing that I made (and I will still continue doing it) is to get rid of jannies like dot
June03-Aug-21 05:28 PM
we didn't vote
Dal29003-Aug-21 05:28 PM
We already voted
Distoibed03-Aug-21 05:28 PM
The voting thing isn't meant for us
Dal29003-Aug-21 05:28 PM
And overruled it as a team because we didn't want to be mean
Shit's all fucked to begin with
Distoibed03-Aug-21 05:29 PM
I'm collecting thoughts,reasons,opinions from users and present them to this chat
June03-Aug-21 05:29 PM
oh is it in the fucking other vote channel
Dal29003-Aug-21 05:30 PM
So yes let me correct this, a jannie who was voted out and we overruled the decision of, later went on to abuse their position and as a result get users to tism and punished for retaliating.
Public vote wanted him out within the first like, month I think?
Oh lol, that's an eh response, I don't feel like most of the jannies have goofed up
Why purge the good jannies because one fucked up
June03-Aug-21 05:32 PM
I ignore that channel because its just filled with meme votes...
Black Lily03-Aug-21 05:32 PM
I think most jennies should be rotated out at the end or beginning of each month
Distoibed03-Aug-21 05:33 PM
I originally made it with the intent of letting users have a say in serious votes
but I CBA to play robotcop when nobody takes it serious
Dal29003-Aug-21 05:33 PM
That's all good and fun but I feel jannies like @Perrine@June@[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes@Krial and @Mumu from NYC among some have been giving valuable input
If anything I think perrine is an important voice of reason when we have gotten off topic or strayed into dumb discussion
Black Lily03-Aug-21 05:34 PM
Yes, and they wouldn't be demoted
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes03-Aug-21 05:34 PM
Actual unabashed coomer shit belongs in trash thread
Simple as
Black Lily03-Aug-21 05:35 PM
@June is obviously always going to be here and I was considering just making him a mod
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Jason03-Aug-21 05:35 PM
@[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes
>bitch about seeing lewd shit
>people move it to a specific quarantined place
>bitch about said place
Mumu from NYC03-Aug-21 05:36 PM
I'm at work so late reply but I understand where you are both (dal and june) coming from and both sides have valid arguments what is happening/happened, but I do have side with dal for this at the very least for the time being
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes03-Aug-21 05:36 PM
Oh I don't mind lewd shit
Dal29003-Aug-21 05:36 PM
I know I know but like, why rotate out people who are doing the work or purge/slim when literally dot was the only one grinding people wrong
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes03-Aug-21 05:36 PM
And posting porn
June03-Aug-21 05:36 PM
here forever
June
here forever
Black Lily03-Aug-21 05:36 PM
Just like me
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Perrine03-Aug-21 05:36 PM
When shit stinks I don't like the smell is all
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes03-Aug-21 05:36 PM
But if you're posting some gay gif of two dudes fucking, then you @ someone saying this is what I want to do to you, and they respond with more gay shit
That's too far
Perrine03-Aug-21 05:37 PM
So hold on, what's this about? I was out snorkeling
June03-Aug-21 05:37 PM
ooo
that sounds fun
Black Lily03-Aug-21 05:37 PM
Did you see a shark
Black Lily
Did you see a shark
Perrine03-Aug-21 05:38 PM
Nah but lots of cool fish and coral
1
Didn't bring my phone because salt water
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes
But if you're posting some gay gif of two dudes fucking, then you @ someone saying this is what I want to do to you, and they respond with more gay shit
Jason03-Aug-21 05:38 PM
policing how people talk to eachother is gay
its one thing to say i dont like seeing this here take it there
Dal29003-Aug-21 05:38 PM
Nsfw-chat was boogled with, dot was involved, already seen too many people complaining about him and disliking his actions, demoted him, found out that there was a meme vote about purging/removing jannies, I am saying that is kind of silly, most of the jannies are functioning just fine, dot was the only issue.
Jason03-Aug-21 05:38 PM
its another thing to say you cant talk like this
Dal29003-Aug-21 05:38 PM
I did meme affirmative action and booped dot out of jannie for the time being
June03-Aug-21 05:38 PM
its the nsfw-chat channel, why would prevent people from being retarded coomers
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes03-Aug-21 05:38 PM
That's why I wanted nsfw-gayshit
Because I don't mind the porn
Jason03-Aug-21 05:39 PM
we have nsfw chat and nsfw pics
we dont need another
Dal290
Nsfw-chat was boogled with, dot was involved, already seen too many people complaining about him and disliking his actions, demoted him, found out that there was a meme vote about purging/removing jannies, I am saying that is kind of silly, most of the jannies are functioning just fine, dot was the only issue.
Perrine03-Aug-21 05:39 PM
As a biased janny, fuck jannies
But also dot is kinda really shitposty, surprised he was jannie
Black Lily03-Aug-21 05:39 PM
We don't need any more #nsfw channels
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes03-Aug-21 05:39 PM
I don't want to see gay shit
Because I'm not gay as such
Jason03-Aug-21 05:39 PM
go to pics then you fuck
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes03-Aug-21 05:39 PM
Gay shit in there too
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes
That's why I wanted nsfw-gayshit
Perrine03-Aug-21 05:39 PM
Start doing that and you'll have problems catering to a coomer crowd
Black Lily03-Aug-21 05:39 PM
Pics is nothing but futa
Perrine03-Aug-21 05:39 PM
Everyone will have fights over what counts as gay
Everyone will want thing they like or don't like to have a separate channel
June03-Aug-21 05:39 PM
are traps gay?
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes03-Aug-21 05:40 PM
Futa is gay
Traps are super gay(edited)
Jason03-Aug-21 05:40 PM
threads are gay but could always use threads in nsfw pics specifically to organize gay/straight/futa etc
June03-Aug-21 05:40 PM
aww
traps are super fast
Perrine03-Aug-21 05:40 PM
Imo you either become a coomercord and end up catering to every type of porn, or you have one nsfw and tell people to fucking deal with it
Black Lily03-Aug-21 05:40 PM
I got rid of threads entirely
June03-Aug-21 05:40 PM
astolfo sprinting at you to suck your dick
Dal29003-Aug-21 05:40 PM
If only there was an anonymous forum we could go to so we could discuss this kind of thing
June03-Aug-21 05:40 PM
IF ONLY
I cant post there though
banned for 2 years and counting
Dal290
If only there was an anonymous forum we could go to so we could discuss this kind of thing
Black Lily03-Aug-21 05:41 PM
I remember saying that all the time in 2018
Perrine03-Aug-21 05:42 PM
IMO nsfw should be a no man's land. Unless it's illegal, literal grossposting, or going to get discord after us, leave it unmoderated
If you don't like it don't look or ignore it
2
I'm surprised people use it at all tbh
Other than image dumping
Jason03-Aug-21 05:43 PM
It's a popular channel for a reason
And its why people get annoyed you fucks keep fucking with it
Jason
It's a popular channel for a reason
Perrine03-Aug-21 05:43 PM
Literally news to me, but in any case I'm not sure it needs any special treatment. Neglect is best.
June03-Aug-21 05:43 PM
thats the point of it
Perrine03-Aug-21 05:44 PM
General exists for a reason
June03-Aug-21 05:44 PM
go here for your porn posting spam shit
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Distoibed03-Aug-21 05:44 PM
it's a containment channel
June03-Aug-21 05:44 PM
fuck off
Dal29003-Aug-21 05:44 PM
Fellas fellas the real important issue at hand
When are we adding an rp channel so I can post my f-list
Jason03-Aug-21 05:44 PM
People seethe that the containment channel is the cool kids channel
Dal290
When are we adding an rp channel so I can post my f-list
Perrine03-Aug-21 05:44 PM
That's called PM
Distoibed03-Aug-21 05:44 PM
I'm not gonna moderate a containment channel.
June03-Aug-21 05:44 PM
then dont
Mumu from NYC03-Aug-21 05:45 PM
I'm gonna kill dal if I hear about his flist one more time
Distoibed03-Aug-21 05:45 PM
unless gore ect ofc
Perrine03-Aug-21 05:45 PM
Alternatively make nsfw opt in and make people accept that it's literally all nsfw
Dal29003-Aug-21 05:45 PM
The way I see it, it's like kicking happening and then getting upset and confused when they come outside of their containment to mess with the other channels
Perrine03-Aug-21 05:45 PM
Set up a rolebot
Jason03-Aug-21 05:45 PM
I literally have nsfw chat open at all times on my biggest monitor, there never even is anything to moderate and if there was something egregious id see it
Perrine03-Aug-21 05:46 PM
From what I'm seeing here, we have a few topics:
Dot being unjannied
Removal of jannies as a whole
Nsfw being split or moderated differently
Jason03-Aug-21 05:46 PM
the last one isn't quite right
Mumu from NYC03-Aug-21 05:46 PM
My only problem with the channel itself is that even non-previously-nsfw-goers have basically abandoned every other channel in favor of it and then at the point you really have to ask yourself why even have channels if the majority of the server dwells in there now
Perrine03-Aug-21 05:46 PM
I say
Seems good idk
Seems unnecessary idk
Seems unnecessary idk
Dal29003-Aug-21 05:46 PM
Most people in the mod team have mixed feelings about nsfw-chat but nobody wants to change it
Mumu from NYC03-Aug-21 05:47 PM
GOd i fucking hate laptop keyboards so much
Mumu from NYC
My only problem with the channel itself is that even non-previously-nsfw-goers have basically abandoned every other channel in favor of it and then at the point you really have to ask yourself why even have channels if the majority of the server dwells in there now
Jason03-Aug-21 05:47 PM
That's not a nsfw chat problem though
that's a general 1 and 2 problem
Mumu from NYC
My only problem with the channel itself is that even non-previously-nsfw-goers have basically abandoned every other channel in favor of it and then at the point you really have to ask yourself why even have channels if the majority of the server dwells in there now
June03-Aug-21 05:47 PM
I haven't plotted it yet, but I'm pretty sure our post count is pretty far down
its on my todo list to graph though
Perrine03-Aug-21 05:47 PM
I don't use nsfw at all tbh
Jason03-Aug-21 05:47 PM
That's fine
But why two generals
June03-Aug-21 05:47 PM
fucking jackbot
Perrine03-Aug-21 05:48 PM
And if people prefer talking in a coomer channel, let them
Dal29003-Aug-21 05:48 PM
Jason
But why two generals
Distoibed03-Aug-21 05:48 PM
general2 is for slow convos
that don't get drowned out
June03-Aug-21 05:48 PM
was, anyways
now thats both gen1 and 2
Jason03-Aug-21 05:48 PM
that's what im saying
Perrine03-Aug-21 05:48 PM
We're not trying to shape the culture of vrg, yeah? Just provide a decently maintained point of contact for everyone, yeah?
Jason03-Aug-21 05:48 PM
if this is such a horrible issue that nsfw chat is such a black hole it succ all users into it
Black Lily03-Aug-21 05:48 PM
#general-2 exist so Phossu can wish people happy birthday
Perrine
We're not trying to shape the culture of vrg, yeah? Just provide a decently maintained point of contact for everyone, yeah?
June03-Aug-21 05:49 PM
exactly that
Jason03-Aug-21 05:49 PM
then surely we don't need a second general
Perrine03-Aug-21 05:49 PM
Then I think we're doing alright as is
And no need to act like we're gods determining the future of our people and whatnot
Get rid of shitters, remake the server when it dies
And chill
June03-Aug-21 05:50 PM
I'm just trying to self check moderation, since I dont directly do any
Perrine03-Aug-21 05:50 PM
Mm
June03-Aug-21 05:50 PM
bot and here is what I focus on
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<303-Aug-21 05:50 PM
shit that was i lot to catch up on im caught up and im here now
Jason
then surely we don't need a second general
Perrine03-Aug-21 05:51 PM
Not sure what it hurts atm, unless we're looking to clean up channels for some reason
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3
shit that was i lot to catch up on im caught up and im here now
Dal29003-Aug-21 05:51 PM
Mumu from NYC03-Aug-21 05:51 PM
I'm very bad at articulating things but here I go: Wow I haven't seen USER around in a while wonder what they're up to checks all channels just in case oh he's in nsfwc continues and to chat in there for the rest of time. On a surface level yes it does look like I am shitting on people for wanting to hang out and chat with friends and people they like but I assure you that is not the intention
Perrine
Not sure what it hurts atm, unless we're looking to clean up channels for some reason
Jason03-Aug-21 05:51 PM
I don't actually particularly want general 2 gone, im just seeing the lack of activity in other generals as a talking point for why nsfw chat is getting the treatment it is
June03-Aug-21 05:51 PM
I'm actually kinda more for the one channel group with threads for shit idea, different paint for the same thing, but then people can just have their autstic short lived threads
not the whole server!
Mumu from NYC
I'm very bad at articulating things but here I go: Wow I haven't seen USER around in a while wonder what they're up to checks all channels just in case oh he's in nsfwc continues and to chat in there for the rest of time. On a surface level yes it does look like I am shitting on people for wanting to hang out and chat with friends and people they like but I assure you that is not the intention
Perrine03-Aug-21 05:51 PM
I mean, if you want to talk to them, ping them, yeah?
Jason
I don't actually particularly want general 2 gone, im just seeing the lack of activity in other generals as a talking point for why nsfw chat is getting the treatment it is
Dal29003-Aug-21 05:52 PM
General 2 was created for when general 1 is too heavy of a flow to utilize
Jason03-Aug-21 05:52 PM
And if that's the case, merging general 1 and 2 into just general would help that
Dal29003-Aug-21 05:52 PM
Like when people are gushing about something like final fantasy so people scoot down to the overflow channel
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<303-Aug-21 05:52 PM
i really dont have an issue with any of the channels and think they are fine
Perrine03-Aug-21 05:52 PM
Be the change you want to be, etc
June03-Aug-21 05:52 PM
and when I unhide we have this many
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<303-Aug-21 05:52 PM
i dont think we need many more
Jason03-Aug-21 05:52 PM
I think it makes perfect sense to just have a general and a nsfw general
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<303-Aug-21 05:52 PM
i dont think we have too many
June03-Aug-21 05:52 PM
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<303-Aug-21 05:53 PM
you go to the channel for the topic you want
it keeps discussion where it should be kept
June03-Aug-21 05:53 PM
I think it could be interesting to do the threads channel/general get threads and let people have threads for shit instead of 4 billion channels
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<303-Aug-21 05:53 PM
you have general and nsfw chat as catch alls
June
I think it could be interesting to do the threads channel/general get threads and let people have threads for shit instead of 4 billion channels
Perrine03-Aug-21 05:54 PM
Depends. The fact that threads auto archive are a problem
June03-Aug-21 05:54 PM
I think my bot api finally got the threads update, so I can do a update this week to support moderating them
they can be unlimited revived
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<303-Aug-21 05:54 PM
if you dont like a channel dont go it to it
its nice
June03-Aug-21 05:54 PM
its that time past the last activity
Perrine03-Aug-21 05:54 PM
I know
June03-Aug-21 05:54 PM
and its still in the thread browser
Perrine03-Aug-21 05:54 PM
But 24h seems short for some recurring topics
June03-Aug-21 05:55 PM
yeah I agree that 2+ days would be better
Perrine03-Aug-21 05:55 PM
I'd say a week
Black Lily03-Aug-21 05:55 PM
I set the tf2 one to a week before I deleted it
Perrine03-Aug-21 05:55 PM
Oh nice
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<303-Aug-21 05:55 PM
guns and automotive are a few of my favorite channels but they are not very active and i like it that way
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Perrine03-Aug-21 05:55 PM
Ultimately threads are odd. Very odd
They're supposed to be an easy way to do reply chaining, but they became channels
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<303-Aug-21 05:56 PM
soccer isnt active but it has its use
Dal29003-Aug-21 05:56 PM
Reminds me of how people hated the new captcha system but people loved how it slowed down the website for a bit
Jason03-Aug-21 05:56 PM
based /o/k/ chad
Perrine03-Aug-21 05:56 PM
I miss hyper 4chan
Black Lily03-Aug-21 05:56 PM
The new captcha is easy now
Perrine03-Aug-21 05:56 PM
Remember when boards could just spontaneously die from a flood
That was hilarious shit
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<303-Aug-21 05:57 PM
/his/ is great too but as of now nsfw chat is where his discussion takes place lol
Perrine03-Aug-21 05:57 PM
Look, here's an idea
If you want to make nsfw chat stay topical
Actually moderate that
Jason03-Aug-21 05:58 PM
there is no topic though
That's what makes it good
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<303-Aug-21 05:58 PM
i actually like it being open
Perrine03-Aug-21 05:58 PM
Then don't worry about it
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<303-Aug-21 05:58 PM
i dont mind off topic
but i do like places for specific topics(edited)
Jason03-Aug-21 05:58 PM
Perrine i think the issue is more or less sorted
Perrine03-Aug-21 05:58 PM
If you want I'll start talking fetishes in there
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<303-Aug-21 05:58 PM
thats fine
Jason03-Aug-21 05:58 PM
the issue at heart is a handful of jannies shitting it up because it pissed people off
or some growing resentment
Perrine03-Aug-21 05:58 PM
Reclaim it for coomers
Kk
Jason03-Aug-21 05:59 PM
and the main culprit of that at least currently is no longer a jannie
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<303-Aug-21 05:59 PM
the only reason there is an issue at all is because muh admin abuse from .
Jason03-Aug-21 05:59 PM
i do think jannies probably should only be able to give roles, delete posts, and thats about it
Perrine03-Aug-21 05:59 PM
Not saying people like dot aren't cool or fun to hang out with or anything, but mods/jans they are not, you know?
Yeah jannies should be 4chan jannies
I do like adding emotes but w/e
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<303-Aug-21 06:00 PM
dot did a good job vetting but he shitposts too mcuh
Perrine03-Aug-21 06:00 PM
Then let him vet
Jason
i do think jannies probably should only be able to give roles, delete posts, and thats about it
Mumu from NYC03-Aug-21 06:00 PM
That's basically what it is right now
Jason03-Aug-21 06:00 PM
yeah
designated vetter
Perrine03-Aug-21 06:00 PM
Make a gatekeeper role
Mumu from NYC03-Aug-21 06:00 PM
channel editing was an oversight
Jason03-Aug-21 06:00 PM
oh ok
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<303-Aug-21 06:01 PM
it was only a few channels that could be editied anyways
Dal29003-Aug-21 06:01 PM
Well anyway I am going to use this little time I have had to actually use my computer thanks to this FUCKING WATER LEAK so I am going to game and chill, you guys have fun, if you have an issue or want to discuss things further ping me.
okay so, asylum applied the channel edits then. let me skimm the audit log again(edited)
Dal29003-Aug-21 06:05 PM
Imma still yeet off to game huehue
♂️
Mumu from NYC03-Aug-21 06:05 PM
leave
June03-Aug-21 06:09 PM
over a 1 hr period
asylum turned off image perms for trash
large gap of fuckery
ohmai enabled images and what not finally
dot flipped it
ohmai flipped it again
dot flipped it again
asylum restored it
i would much rather keep the peace and not cause a bunch of shit in the discord to give people a reason to shit up the thread with discord drama again
June
over a 1 hr period
asylum turned off image perms for trash
large gap of fuckery
ohmai enabled images and what not finally
dot flipped it
ohmai flipped it again
dot flipped it again
asylum restored it
🔇03-Aug-21 06:12 PM
ye i was bored waiting for flight ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
June03-Aug-21 06:12 PM
yeah I get why you did it
I think you shouldn't
🔇03-Aug-21 06:12 PM
bullshit didnt happen til close to the end when other jannies started getting involved
June03-Aug-21 06:13 PM
ah
🔇03-Aug-21 06:14 PM
aka people decided to go "jannie fight, jannie fight" and make it worse
people just swapped to lewd emojis and stickers
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<303-Aug-21 06:17 PM
i vote we do change nsfw chat back from trash
Jason03-Aug-21 06:17 PM
same
June03-Aug-21 06:18 PM
Jason03-Aug-21 06:18 PM
i actually do not like being even a little closer to vrlg
Black Lily03-Aug-21 06:18 PM
I think we should rename it to /soc/
June03-Aug-21 06:18 PM
based
do that
anything other than the old name
Jason03-Aug-21 06:18 PM
rename it nsfw-general
2
June
anything other than the old name
Jason03-Aug-21 06:19 PM
What is wrong with nsfw chat
Mumu from NYC03-Aug-21 06:19 PM
name it white-girl-general
June03-Aug-21 06:19 PM
like I said before, in any other server or social platform I've been on, something named nsfw-chat would scream gross cesspit of hookups dick pics
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<303-Aug-21 06:20 PM
i mean i hate to say it but nsfw chat is closest old /b/
Jason03-Aug-21 06:20 PM
and trash wouldnt?
June03-Aug-21 06:20 PM
wouldnt something like wild west, unmoderated etc make more sense?
Jason03-Aug-21 06:20 PM
It's just transparent seethe on your end
June03-Aug-21 06:20 PM
its not just for cooming and gay hookups right?
Jason03-Aug-21 06:20 PM
Its not for that at all
no
June03-Aug-21 06:20 PM
seethe how?
Jason03-Aug-21 06:20 PM
and its almost barely done
it's literally just general chat without the nsfw rule
June03-Aug-21 06:21 PM
yeah exactly, which is why the name doesn't feel apt, and I feel a change would be better
Jason03-Aug-21 06:21 PM
Where as
4chan's trash board is used for
what is that
oh yeah
hookups
June03-Aug-21 06:21 PM
you associate trash with that, I dont which is my bad
Perrine03-Aug-21 06:21 PM
Name it #coomer-containment
Jason03-Aug-21 06:21 PM
This is a 4chan related discord
June03-Aug-21 06:21 PM
I never ever knew of trash before vrg
Mumu from NYC03-Aug-21 06:21 PM
nsfw-classifieds
June03-Aug-21 06:22 PM
literally knew it was a thing, but never bothered to look at it
June
seethe how?
Jason03-Aug-21 06:22 PM
All your suggestions and the way you talk about it just drips resentment
June
I never ever knew of trash before vrg
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<303-Aug-21 06:22 PM
back when i used to shitpost /mlp/ i would have some threads moved to trash
June03-Aug-21 06:22 PM
okay
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<303-Aug-21 06:22 PM
thats how i learned about it]
June03-Aug-21 06:22 PM
I mean, I usually just shitposted in b
never remember getting shuffled off to trash from there so thats probably why
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<303-Aug-21 06:23 PM
well i mean b is b
Jason03-Aug-21 06:23 PM
yeah b doesnt usually get threads moved
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<303-Aug-21 06:23 PM
it is already off topic
Jason03-Aug-21 06:23 PM
I just don't understand the logic of it at all
Jason
All your suggestions and the way you talk about it just drips resentment
June03-Aug-21 06:23 PM
I can't exactly change that though, I'm not exactly up to anything, I only post in nsfw-chat anyways
Jason03-Aug-21 06:23 PM
"It's not just hook ups right? So it shouldn't be nsfw chat" ??
June03-Aug-21 06:24 PM
I feel the name encourages it
which your right that trash is worse
Jason03-Aug-21 06:24 PM
Name it fuckin general (nsfw)
cause that's what it is
June03-Aug-21 06:24 PM
yep
Jason03-Aug-21 06:24 PM
If you want a general without nsfw then go to general 1 or 2
and if general nsfw proves to be too popular that general 1 and 2 suffer for it just consider it the will of the people
Perrine03-Aug-21 06:25 PM
#erotic-roleplay
Jason03-Aug-21 06:26 PM
name it vrlg
lmao
Perrine03-Aug-21 06:26 PM
L?
Mumu from NYC03-Aug-21 06:26 PM
+ L
+ ratio
+ you fell off
Jason03-Aug-21 06:26 PM
its the trash general, please dont actually do this
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes03-Aug-21 06:26 PM
4chan has blue boards and nsfw boards
then it has trash thread
And you can't even access it through any link on the main page
Azuth03-Aug-21 06:27 PM
yeah, if your porn thread is on /trash/ it means even the porn boards didn't want it
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes03-Aug-21 06:27 PM
To make the correct analogy, coomer shit like trash should be hidden away completely
June03-Aug-21 06:27 PM
it was only a joke calling people trash, not a reference but yeah I fucked up
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes03-Aug-21 06:27 PM
Not nsfw chat
Azuth03-Aug-21 06:27 PM
I like nsfw-general the most so far
Jason03-Aug-21 06:27 PM
fucked up is a strong word its just a joke
Azuth
I like nsfw-general the most so far
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<303-Aug-21 06:27 PM
June03-Aug-21 06:28 PM
I like general (nsfw) so its not a variation of the nsfw-pics channel but thats all good
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes03-Aug-21 06:28 PM
If that's what it is
🔇03-Aug-21 06:28 PM
Changed it to #nsfw-chat
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Jason03-Aug-21 06:28 PM
/u/GemManBad03-Aug-21 06:29 PM
No trash equivalent please fer fooks sake
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes03-Aug-21 06:29 PM
Make a gay shit thread on it
June03-Aug-21 06:29 PM
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<303-Aug-21 06:29 PM
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes03-Aug-21 06:29 PM
And contain all actual full blown gay porn to it
Gay isn't the norm
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<303-Aug-21 06:30 PM
maybe a thread for gay posting in pics but then you get into the debate of what counts
June03-Aug-21 06:31 PM
lmao
fuck that
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<303-Aug-21 06:31 PM
like people asking if futa is gay and if its anything with a dick then you will have the people complain they have to wade through irl gay shit to get to their big dicked mommy's
Jason03-Aug-21 06:32 PM
i am here to support my people
Azuth03-Aug-21 06:32 PM
or like, 10 guy 1 girl bukkake
Jason03-Aug-21 06:32 PM
my people will not support rules
Azuth03-Aug-21 06:32 PM
there's 10 dicks to 1 pussy there, a pretty gay ratio
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<303-Aug-21 06:32 PM
no one is going to like everyones porn
🔇03-Aug-21 06:32 PM
I added a gay thread, it should be fine.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3
like people asking if futa is gay and if its anything with a dick then you will have the people complain they have to wade through irl gay shit to get to their big dicked mommy's
Perrine03-Aug-21 06:32 PM
Yep. Don't split it or you end up with a lot of dumb bitching and problems
You validate the idea of splitting porn
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<303-Aug-21 06:33 PM
i think it should just be left as is
Azuth03-Aug-21 06:33 PM
can users still make threads in that channel?
Jason03-Aug-21 06:33 PM
i agree with ohmai, leave it as it
1
no one is gonna use that thread
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<303-Aug-21 06:33 PM
no divide
Azuth
can users still make threads in that channel?
🔇03-Aug-21 06:33 PM
Idk? Did anyone correct it while I was on the plane?
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes03-Aug-21 06:33 PM
@June
June03-Aug-21 06:33 PM
I didn't opt into your gay channel
fuck off mr rules
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes03-Aug-21 06:33 PM
Then go to trash discord
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<303-Aug-21 06:33 PM
like i dont want to see huge tiddy
June03-Aug-21 06:33 PM
no
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<303-Aug-21 06:34 PM
do we get a small tiddy thread
it doesnt stop just let it all stick together
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3
do we get a small tiddy thread
🔇03-Aug-21 06:34 PM
Sure?
Jason03-Aug-21 06:35 PM
i feel like if we are putting threads anywhere it should just be under nsfw pics
so you can have an easy organized access to whatever porn you want
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<303-Aug-21 06:35 PM
ye
Jason03-Aug-21 06:35 PM
but thats just me
June03-Aug-21 06:35 PM
just enable threads for anyone if thats what its going to be
Vote on it, lets stop fucking with the shit alright
Vote fast so we can just put an end to this business :^)
Jason03-Aug-21 06:39 PM
The new name is all that i'd consider a positive improvement because it clarifies that it isn't specifically a chat for nsfw
its just a chat
that is nsfw
Azuth03-Aug-21 06:39 PM
yeah, I'm voting back to normal but keep the new name
June03-Aug-21 06:39 PM
you should just remove dank from access to that channel
@[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes
then you wont see it ever
Azuth
yeah, I'm voting back to normal but keep the new name
Dal29003-Aug-21 06:40 PM
We can vote on that, but for now let's settle this business
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes03-Aug-21 06:40 PM
I'm enforcing the rules set
I didn't make the rules
Dal29003-Aug-21 06:40 PM
I have limited time before my power goes out/piping issues
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes03-Aug-21 06:40 PM
I didn't make the thread
Dal29003-Aug-21 06:40 PM
So I want to fix this bullshit then yeet
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes03-Aug-21 06:41 PM
If you have a problem, talk to the person who made them
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes
I'm enforcing the rules set
Dal29003-Aug-21 06:41 PM
I have a problem with you smacking the coomers after we just had an issue witht hat
Stop fucking with them, we get you don't like them, but leave it be you fucker
June03-Aug-21 06:41 PM
you made those rules up on the spot dude
literally
🔇03-Aug-21 06:41 PM
I didn’t make new rules I just made a thread
June03-Aug-21 06:41 PM
asylum made threads and you assumed that meant everything had to go into them
ExecutiveJackbotBOT03-Aug-21 06:42 PM
Das racist
June
you made those rules up on the spot dude
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes03-Aug-21 06:42 PM
Thread was made after I recommended those exact rules and I was pinged that it was the containment
There isn't a clearer statement of the intent
If you have a problem with it, talk to the person who made it
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes
If you have a problem with it, talk to the person who made it
Dal29003-Aug-21 06:43 PM
You are putting words in mouths dude
Dick move
Jason03-Aug-21 06:44 PM
@🔇@[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes stop shitting in my home please
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes03-Aug-21 06:44 PM
I was pinged that the thread was containment
Right after I recommended a containment thread
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes
I was pinged that the thread was containment
Dal29003-Aug-21 06:44 PM
Nah nah nah, you know all of this is by the straps
June03-Aug-21 06:44 PM
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes03-Aug-21 06:44 PM
Yes
Dal29003-Aug-21 06:44 PM
I swear to fuck man
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes03-Aug-21 06:45 PM
You even acknowledged it june
Dal29003-Aug-21 06:45 PM
Well with the jannie count down, majority is lower, so 11 votes is good right?
Jason
@🔇@[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes stop shitting in my home please
🔇03-Aug-21 06:45 PM
I’m just making threads. ):
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes03-Aug-21 06:45 PM
In the picture you posted
Jason03-Aug-21 06:45 PM
June03-Aug-21 06:45 PM
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes03-Aug-21 06:45 PM
Yes that's what I recommended
June03-Aug-21 06:46 PM
your just fuckin making rules pinning them, then spam deleting
that channel was calm before you two started @[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes@🔇
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes03-Aug-21 06:46 PM
Did you miss where I said to make a gay containment
Then it was made
June03-Aug-21 06:46 PM
no I didn't
June
Click to see attachment🖼️
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<303-Aug-21 06:46 PM
this is wrong
June03-Aug-21 06:46 PM
we were still discussing it
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes03-Aug-21 06:46 PM
It was made after I recommended it
June03-Aug-21 06:46 PM
why the fuck is everyone making snap decisions
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes03-Aug-21 06:46 PM
Not before
Because fuck coomers(edited)
June03-Aug-21 06:46 PM
thats 75% of this community
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes03-Aug-21 06:47 PM
Ill enforce the rules as they are
Mumu from NYC03-Aug-21 06:47 PM
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes03-Aug-21 06:47 PM
If the vote goes to keep nsfw as it is then that's what it is
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes
Ill enforce the rules as they are
Dal29003-Aug-21 06:47 PM
there are no rules so don't enforce them selectively if we have not talked about it before
/u/GemManBad03-Aug-21 06:47 PM
There are no rules there
Black Lily03-Aug-21 06:47 PM
Can you guys quit causing shitstorms so I can play video games with ZipZoop
3
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes03-Aug-21 06:47 PM
But that thread was created as gay shit containment
June03-Aug-21 06:47 PM
I literally need to get back to work
Mumu from NYC03-Aug-21 06:47 PM
same
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes03-Aug-21 06:47 PM
So it is enforced as it
Dal29003-Aug-21 06:48 PM
We already discussed removing, or adding jannies as we need them, we voted on that
🔇03-Aug-21 06:48 PM
No it was a thread that was requested so I made it. I made several others.
Perrine03-Aug-21 06:48 PM
Imagine being triggered by futa lol
Dal29003-Aug-21 06:48 PM
You enforcing a rule you ramrodded in isn't
Don't do shit like that
Perrine03-Aug-21 06:48 PM
U gei
Dal29003-Aug-21 06:48 PM
Go and vote in mod-voting btw :^)
Black Lily
Can you guys quit causing shitstorms so I can play video games with ZipZoop
Dal29003-Aug-21 06:49 PM
My fucking power is going to go out for the night and I just want to game a lil before then
BUT DANK THINKS ITS COOL TO POKE THE NSFW FUCKERS MORE
Jason03-Aug-21 06:49 PM
i have fallout 76 dailies to do
ToddBotBOT03-Aug-21 06:49 PM
Mumu from NYC03-Aug-21 06:50 PM
F to pay respects for dal
Dal290
You enforcing a rule you ramrodded in isn't
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes03-Aug-21 06:50 PM
It was made as a direct response to my recommendation of those rules specifically saying it is gay containment
I didn't make up anything
Jason03-Aug-21 06:50 PM
you're instigating a homo revolt
ExecutiveJackbotBOT03-Aug-21 06:50 PM
GAMER???
[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes03-Aug-21 06:50 PM
Just because frozen seems to have made it as a meme doesn't mean I did anything wrong
Jason03-Aug-21 06:50 PM
people are just gonna post more gay porn in response
Dal29003-Aug-21 06:50 PM
You know exactly what bullshit you just did
Perrine03-Aug-21 06:50 PM
You think that we would have some big change like that without a vote
While we all we talking about how we shouldn't do that
/u/GemManBad03-Aug-21 06:51 PM
Ive removed his jannie, just stop
Please
🔇03-Aug-21 06:51 PM
Is fine.
Dal29003-Aug-21 06:51 PM
Also we have a majority vote on the put nsfw-chat back to normal
Jason03-Aug-21 06:51 PM
Dal29003-Aug-21 06:51 PM
So lets leave it be :^)
Perrine
You think that we would have some big change like that without a vote
June03-Aug-21 06:52 PM
THIS
jfc, the snap decisions today
/u/GemManBad
Ive removed his jannie, just stop
June03-Aug-21 06:52 PM
looking at you too
walked in late and removed his roles without pause
Jason03-Aug-21 06:53 PM
#mod-voting
democracy
June03-Aug-21 06:53 PM
actually on the threads one, can we vote on just having thread perms for people
(also the bots still are not updated for purging stuff yet in threads!)
Jason03-Aug-21 06:54 PM
you can put in votes
i think threads are cluttery and gay so im against it in general but i also dont know what bots are gonna do with them so
maybe theyll be cool
June
(also the bots still are not updated for purging stuff yet in threads!)
Dal29003-Aug-21 06:54 PM
I would say we just don't touch threads while they are a beta feature
June
walked in late and removed his roles without pause
🔇03-Aug-21 06:54 PM
Jannies we’re supposed to work like this.
June
looking at you too
/u/GemManBad03-Aug-21 06:54 PM
My liege, i only wanted the gayshit storm to stop
June03-Aug-21 06:54 PM
thats a weird system
yeah but he had already stopped
Dal29003-Aug-21 06:55 PM
Yeah we literally voted on jannies are an in out system, if they abuse slap em, if they want in let em on your own judgement
Jason03-Aug-21 06:55 PM
i support not-fbc's choice
June03-Aug-21 06:55 PM
its like you walked into the office and shot him, I mean shit your the mod go ahead man
Dal29003-Aug-21 06:55 PM
I would say bopping jannies abusing their abilities is par for the course
Jason03-Aug-21 06:55 PM
im sad dank no longer jannie but he had a habit of letting his memes go on for too long
well after everyone was clearly done with it
/u/GemManBad03-Aug-21 06:56 PM
Jannies aren't meant to cause problems, mods are
Jason03-Aug-21 06:56 PM
did the same shit with holy chat
Dal290
I would say bopping jannies abusing their abilities is par for the course
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<303-Aug-21 06:56 PM
Stannic03-Aug-21 06:56 PM
^
Brainy03-Aug-21 06:56 PM
I disabled threads on my servers and a bunch of other people I know did the same due to how janky the rollout is and how it complicates moderation. It's basically easier for people to hide stuff in a thread.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<303-Aug-21 06:56 PM
should janny be kind of a trial for mod? to test to see if people are decent at it
Stannic03-Aug-21 06:57 PM
nah jannie should be jannie
clean up shit
not create new rules
Brainy
I disabled threads on my servers and a bunch of other people I know did the same due to how janky the rollout is and how it complicates moderation. It's basically easier for people to hide stuff in a thread.
🔇03-Aug-21 06:57 PM
Yes, but people can’t make threads only use them.
Stannic03-Aug-21 06:57 PM
and try to rile shit up to police the server
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3
should janny be kind of a trial for mod? to test to see if people are decent at it
🔇03-Aug-21 06:57 PM
Yes.
That was my original intentions.
Swap jannies in/out easily.
Stannic03-Aug-21 06:57 PM
I've only deleted shit so far and that's about it
and remove ridiculous roles given to people because haha funnee xd
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3
should janny be kind of a trial for mod? to test to see if people are decent at it
Dal29003-Aug-21 06:58 PM
That was the whole point yeah
/u/GemManBad03-Aug-21 06:58 PM
@Stannic you're a good one
Jason03-Aug-21 06:58 PM
speaking of can we delete the nsfw chat threads now
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<303-Aug-21 06:58 PM
i pretty much just vet people and delete shit that doesn't belong only shitpost i did was give carl the village idiot because it actually made him stop rambling when people would ping it
🔇
Yes, but people can’t make threads only use them.
Brainy03-Aug-21 06:59 PM
So if I'm understanding, we have perms to make threads, but regular users can't make them? I like that!
I'm catching up on the situation with Dank. So we made separate threads within #nsfw-pics to categorize content and people got upset?
Brainy
So if I'm understanding, we have perms to make threads, but regular users can't make them? I like that!
🔇03-Aug-21 07:00 PM
Yes
Stannic03-Aug-21 07:00 PM
yes
Mumu from NYC03-Aug-21 07:00 PM
Asylum made the thread, then dank starting trippin
Brainy03-Aug-21 07:00 PM
It sounds like a logical thing to do? Why were people upset?
Stannic03-Aug-21 07:00 PM
dank started trying to go full deus vult
Brainy
I'm catching up on the situation with Dank. So we made separate threads within #nsfw-pics to categorize content and people got upset?
Jason03-Aug-21 07:00 PM
no we made them in nsfw chat
i suggested we make them in pics
Brainy03-Aug-21 07:00 PM
Oh so it was just Dank who decided to do that, nobody else?
Stannic03-Aug-21 07:01 PM
imo if it ain't broke don't fix it
Mumu from NYC03-Aug-21 07:01 PM
Literally everyone here just got finished resolving the issue
🔇03-Aug-21 07:01 PM
Yeah I made the threads, and dank decided to “enforce” them
Mumu from NYC03-Aug-21 07:01 PM
except him
Stannic03-Aug-21 07:01 PM
no one has complained about nsfw-chat until now
Mumu from NYC03-Aug-21 07:01 PM
then the shitstorm
Stannic03-Aug-21 07:01 PM
leave it the same
Stannic
imo if it ain't broke don't fix it
Jason03-Aug-21 07:01 PM
this is how almost everyone feels
Dal29003-Aug-21 07:02 PM
I am about to have my power cut and all that for the plumbing
Mumu from NYC03-Aug-21 07:02 PM
pretty much
Brainy03-Aug-21 07:02 PM
Scrolling up, it sounds like he lacked "bedside manner" enforcing it:
Dal29003-Aug-21 07:02 PM
I'll have my phone but yeah bye for now
Jason03-Aug-21 07:02 PM
by dal
have fun
in the dark
/u/GemManBad03-Aug-21 07:02 PM
Good bye
Brainy
Scrolling up, it sounds like he lacked "bedside manner" enforcing it:
Stannic03-Aug-21 07:02 PM
he's always been abrasive and like this
He's all about blunt force
Brainy
Scrolling up, it sounds like he lacked "bedside manner" enforcing it:
June03-Aug-21 07:02 PM
that was within 2 seconds of the thread creation
Dal290
I'll have my phone but yeah bye for now
🔇03-Aug-21 07:02 PM
Byebye dal.
Brainy03-Aug-21 07:02 PM
As in the intentions may have been good, but the delivery was just insulting to people and soured the effort.
June03-Aug-21 07:02 PM
straight up instant moderation of the whole channel
Stannic03-Aug-21 07:02 PM
don't expect diplomacy from him lol
June03-Aug-21 07:02 PM
before asylum could even respond
Stannic03-Aug-21 07:02 PM
yeah
he's got a burning hatred for it or something
Jason
this is how almost everyone feels
Mumu from NYC03-Aug-21 07:03 PM
basically this I merely voiced my opinion on the whole thing and that was about it
Jason03-Aug-21 07:03 PM
a lot of this is just shitposting
June03-Aug-21 07:03 PM
we we're just discussing this, not ready for anything and asylum made his 'containment thread' to please him, he took that as free rein to moderate the shit out of it
Jason03-Aug-21 07:03 PM
successful shitposting as people got upset
Stannic03-Aug-21 07:03 PM
a lot of this got misconstrued in the end lmao
June03-Aug-21 07:03 PM
now for the love of god I'm leaving the rest of the day
Jason03-Aug-21 07:04 PM
and i guess we are down two jannies which is something that people have been voting for
Stannic03-Aug-21 07:04 PM
dankmemes left on his own
Jason03-Aug-21 07:04 PM
dank left after invalid bopped him
Stannic03-Aug-21 07:04 PM
meanwhile dot gets a little overboard and has been dancing along the line of abuse and moderating
especially when dot gets moody
Dal29003-Aug-21 07:06 PM
I am about to get in the shower but yeah overall I don't think it's fair to expose anybody to dot with moderation powers with his ups and downs
Mumu from NYC03-Aug-21 07:06 PM
@Jason remember to keep mod voting clean
Brainy03-Aug-21 07:06 PM
I think a lot of the ideas recently for organization, like #nsfw-chat being restricted to images, and #nsfw-pics being broken up into categories, were not necessarily bad ideas. The problem is in how we're implementing them. There doesn't seem to be any discussion involving the community or any effort to work with the community.
Stannic03-Aug-21 07:07 PM
lets just not touch them until people request it
Mumu from NYC
Jason03-Aug-21 07:07 PM
my b
Brainy03-Aug-21 07:07 PM
This latest one, it doesn't even sound like there was any effort to work with other mods/jannies.
Stannic
lets just not touch them until people request it
🔇03-Aug-21 07:08 PM
people requested those threads
Stannic03-Aug-21 07:08 PM
lol
Jason03-Aug-21 07:08 PM
i am very opposed to restricting nsfw chat in any way
Stannic03-Aug-21 07:08 PM
wait until threads can be forever or more than just a week with nitro
it's fucking awful
🔇03-Aug-21 07:08 PM
im not restricting it tho, just adding them
Jason
i am very opposed to restricting nsfw chat in any way
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<303-Aug-21 07:08 PM
🔇03-Aug-21 07:08 PM
threads wont be forever
Stannic03-Aug-21 07:08 PM
might as well make a new nsfw collapse and let people post their shit there and have it as a role
🔇03-Aug-21 07:08 PM
thats what channels are for
Brainy03-Aug-21 07:09 PM
The problem is how it was implemented. Instead of letting the community propose categories they wanted and going from there, it was one moderator strictly enforcing their own view in an insulting way (IE, calling futa "gay shit" and insisting on categorizing it with "gay shit").(edited)
Stannic03-Aug-21 07:09 PM
I mean that's dankmemes
🔇03-Aug-21 07:09 PM
yes
i was in the middle of making the requested cunny channel
Stannic03-Aug-21 07:10 PM
Isn't that gonna get this discord easily banned anyhow
Brainy03-Aug-21 07:10 PM
If we decide as a group in the future how to best approach changes, we can be more unified and also come up with a more community-friendly approach.
I don't think one person everyone knows to be abrasive should be the one to unilaterally decide the best way to implement and enforce changes.(edited)
Stannic
Isn't that gonna get this discord easily banned anyhow
🔇03-Aug-21 07:10 PM
not anymore than the cunny being posted in #nsfw-chat or #nsfw-pics
Stannic03-Aug-21 07:10 PM
fair
make a nsfw visitor role
🔇03-Aug-21 07:10 PM
would be easier because we can nuke the entire thread with 0 issue
Stannic
Isn't that gonna get this discord easily banned anyhow
Brainy03-Aug-21 07:10 PM
What would?
Stannic03-Aug-21 07:11 PM
might as well use threads to nuke that shit
🔇03-Aug-21 07:11 PM
general idea, but its not likely to be used since its hard to find
Mumu from NYC03-Aug-21 07:12 PM
Brainy03-Aug-21 07:13 PM
They may classify it on a level close to CSAM. IE, not reporting to NCMEC or anything, but still nuking the server and potentially users.
🔇03-Aug-21 07:13 PM
cunny implies any small breasted female. usually short in stature
Brainy03-Aug-21 07:13 PM
I think if one person posts it and we delete it, it should be fine. But I wouldn't make an actual channel, thread, or category inviting people to post it.
It's really subjective since it's artwork.
June03-Aug-21 07:14 PM
thats what guilded is for
Brainy03-Aug-21 07:14 PM
I'm actually looking this up now because it's such a ridiculous restriction
If they do moderate against it we can't really predict what in the fuck they use to judge it honestly.
These community guidelines are developed to make sure everyone on Discord has a good time making great memories.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3
do we get a small tiddy thread
🔇03-Aug-21 07:17 PM
you didnt say cunny, but smol tiddi, which i interpreted as cunny
Brainy
I think a lot of the ideas recently for organization, like #nsfw-chat being restricted to images, and #nsfw-pics being broken up into categories, were not necessarily bad ideas. The problem is in how we're implementing them. There doesn't seem to be any discussion involving the community or any effort to work with the community.
Perrine03-Aug-21 07:18 PM
Splitting porn by content only creates drama and problems that aren't worth it unless we decide we're catering to cooming
Brainy03-Aug-21 07:19 PM
Creating a specific thread / channel would definitely fall under inviting / promoting.
Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<303-Aug-21 07:19 PM
i didnt even mean that lol
🔇03-Aug-21 07:19 PM
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<303-Aug-21 07:19 PM
just normal girls without huge meat sacks
🔇03-Aug-21 07:19 PM
oh, you mean non-inflation porn
Brainy03-Aug-21 07:19 PM
But it's not our fault if some rando posts a Rule 34 drawing of Kanna Kamui, so long as we act quickly to remove it.
🔇
oh, you mean non-inflation porn
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<303-Aug-21 07:19 PM
yes
Jason03-Aug-21 07:19 PM
but its a meme
Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.
Brainy03-Aug-21 07:20 PM
Welcome to why this is a failed T&S policy because art is subjective.
🔇03-Aug-21 07:20 PM
we call multiple 20~30 yo men cunny, so.....
Jason03-Aug-21 07:20 PM
well
🔇03-Aug-21 07:20 PM
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Jason03-Aug-21 07:20 PM
those men have cute and funny avs
Black Lily03-Aug-21 07:21 PM
I couldn't care less about drawings regardless of content
🔇
oh, you mean non-inflation porn
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<303-Aug-21 07:21 PM
this
SPOILER
Jason03-Aug-21 07:21 PM
same
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<303-Aug-21 07:21 PM
not this
SPOILER
Jason03-Aug-21 07:21 PM
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3
just normal girls without huge meat sacks
June03-Aug-21 07:21 PM
meat
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3
this
🔇03-Aug-21 07:22 PM
dis cunny
Eric03-Aug-21 07:22 PM
ok
so the tldr
is dankmemes acted retarded
got bopped
nsfw chat is pretty much here to stay
Jason03-Aug-21 07:22 PM
a drawing is a drawing is a drawing but at the same time i understand if larger discords like this one want to moderate cunny to protect the discord from banhammer
🔇03-Aug-21 07:22 PM
dank enforced a rule because i said gay containment
Eric03-Aug-21 07:22 PM
also me turning off nsfw chat was just to fuck around nothing more
🔇03-Aug-21 07:22 PM
although all of vrg is basically gay containment
Jason03-Aug-21 07:22 PM
and also not post it
Mumu from NYC03-Aug-21 07:22 PM
beef is next
Eric03-Aug-21 07:23 PM
i saw kuiwa call it power tripping but i posted "everyones gonna hate me right b4"
Mumu from NYC
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Stannic03-Aug-21 07:23 PM
Stannic
Click to see attachment🖼️
Mumu from NYC03-Aug-21 07:23 PM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Eric03-Aug-21 07:23 PM
but then chat continued as normal so i went to bed
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#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<303-Aug-21 07:24 PM
zuikaku is an adult
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🔇03-Aug-21 07:24 PM
i dont moderate cunny images myself. the only way discord is going to look at them is if they are reported
Stannic03-Aug-21 07:24 PM
Jason03-Aug-21 07:24 PM
June03-Aug-21 07:24 PM
just go to guilded
Jason03-Aug-21 07:24 PM
i like cunny posting
June03-Aug-21 07:24 PM
look at the walls of cunny
Mumu from NYC03-Aug-21 07:24 PM
but asylum, you ARE the cunny
🔇03-Aug-21 07:24 PM
guilded is the preferred way for porn posting
June03-Aug-21 07:24 PM
I think mizuki uploaded like fuckin 2k+
Mumu from NYC
but asylum, you ARE the cunny
🔇03-Aug-21 07:24 PM
im okay with this
Stannic03-Aug-21 07:24 PM
the fuck
Jason03-Aug-21 07:24 PM
i will say in a discord like this with so many schizos it would be easy for one to try and take down the discord by reporting them
Eric03-Aug-21 07:24 PM
also is this happening?
Jason03-Aug-21 07:24 PM
whyat even is guilded
June03-Aug-21 07:24 PM
I muted the channel because it was lighting up constantly
Eric03-Aug-21 07:25 PM
or did dankmemes just leave out of a crybaby fit
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3
zuikaku is an adult
Brainy03-Aug-21 07:25 PM
If the character is an adult, then in my view there's now substantiating context for the first image being a minor, as it's not clearly/obviously/reasonably depicted as one. But again, this is my trying to apply the general guidelines companies like Discord adhere to, towards a policy on art that is wholly subjective and individual to Discord internally.
Jason
whyat even is guilded
🔇03-Aug-21 07:25 PM
check #splinter-discords
Eric
or did dankmemes just leave out of a crybaby fit
Jason03-Aug-21 07:25 PM
that
🔇03-Aug-21 07:25 PM
its a discord alternative
Jason
whyat even is guilded
June03-Aug-21 07:25 PM
discord clone with some interesting features, more jank, little laggy
Also I just have to say what a fucking joke this is as someone who literally has a career as a child advocate combating CSAM for platforms like Discord, that I'm having to seriously analyze drawings and depictions when Discord is over here ignoring actual proxy reporting of CSAM. My blood is literally boiling right now you guys lmaoo
Jason
asylum did you see bear
🔇03-Aug-21 07:26 PM
yes it was very cute
Jason03-Aug-21 07:26 PM
Eric03-Aug-21 07:26 PM
im gonna stick my wenor in asylum
🔇03-Aug-21 07:26 PM
i had to leave tho, i wanna snuggle it when i return
Eric03-Aug-21 07:26 PM
then call him on my phone to hear his moans
bros bros bros
Jason03-Aug-21 07:26 PM
🔇03-Aug-21 07:27 PM
no beef, thats gay and you have a boyfriend
Brainy
Also I just have to say what a fucking joke this is as someone who literally has a career as a child advocate combating CSAM for platforms like Discord, that I'm having to seriously analyze drawings and depictions when Discord is over here ignoring actual proxy reporting of CSAM. My blood is literally boiling right now you guys lmaoo
June03-Aug-21 07:27 PM
yeah I dont know how you can deal with this shit
Eric03-Aug-21 07:27 PM
June03-Aug-21 07:27 PM
basically is so fucking vague that they can just do whatever they want
like, god damn every one of their terms
Brainy
Also I just have to say what a fucking joke this is as someone who literally has a career as a child advocate combating CSAM for platforms like Discord, that I'm having to seriously analyze drawings and depictions when Discord is over here ignoring actual proxy reporting of CSAM. My blood is literally boiling right now you guys lmaoo
🔇03-Aug-21 07:27 PM
i know its 500% aids
June03-Aug-21 07:28 PM
their moderation is also one sided, where we just get notified that we did wrong, without saying what, or how we can rectify it, restore our standing
Brainy03-Aug-21 07:30 PM
Here's what I would say (if you want to say anything) to people as a warning:
"Do not post adult content of people or characters known to be, or clearly/obviously/reasonably assumed to be, minors under the age of 18."
The problem here is that due to the nature of artwork, people might argue that this falls under "reasonably":(edited)
SPOILER
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<303-Aug-21 07:30 PM
small chest does not equal minor
Brainy03-Aug-21 07:30 PM
So it's all a clusterfuck lmao
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<303-Aug-21 07:31 PM
ye
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Stannic03-Aug-21 07:32 PM
it is and it's one of those things that lets them go hehe i abuse here's the reason
Brainy03-Aug-21 07:39 PM
Stannic03-Aug-21 07:44 PM
uh
Brainy03-Aug-21 07:44 PM
Edited my post a bit here. ^(edited)
Stannic03-Aug-21 07:45 PM
let's ask the wise coffee pot that black lily has on their opinyot
Brainy03-Aug-21 07:49 PM
I feel like even images like that, we should be removing.
The original account he said that on was banned and in a nuked discord
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Brainy03-Aug-21 08:10 PM
Pinned a message.
Brainy03-Aug-21 08:41 PM
I think I got it ironed out and I also pinned it.
1.) Any depiction of a clearly/obviously/reasonably assumed to be minor, judged in the absence of context (or on factual context), who is;
2.) Being depicted naked, or in a sexualized manner or setting, naked or clothed; and/or
3.) Involves any form of expression approving, appreciating, encouraging, glorifying, or otherwise promoting sexualization of minors.
(edited)
That seems easy enough for us to use as a basis to judge and remove content.
While factual context would apply to characters like this (known to be high school students):
Black Lily03-Aug-21 08:44 PM
Before we defined it as anything that look younger than shimakaze
Yeah I changed it because I realized, we need to include minors, not just prepubescent characters.
Because Asuka Langley hentai would technically cross the line here (under the Discord definition).(edited)
June03-Aug-21 08:46 PM
god I want to fuck shimakaze
2
Black Lily03-Aug-21 08:48 PM
Tokitsukaze
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<303-Aug-21 08:48 PM
reminder that hipper is older
Brainy03-Aug-21 08:49 PM
Also the "controversial" thing here (at least in this area of child advocacy) is what I'm trying to address with expression. That's the basis for the verbiage I chose: "approving, appreciating, encouraging, glorifying". This is the "grey area" when it comes to reporting to NCMEC because the goal is to address any promotion of child exploitation, even if it is "artistic" in nature.
Black Lily03-Aug-21 08:50 PM
So we ban anyone that watched Cuties
Brainy03-Aug-21 08:50 PM
So in other words, upon reflecting on this, I do feel we need to strictly approach this because it does risk reporting to NCMEC, even if people are "memeing" or "joking", depending on the nature of the expression.
Black Lily
So we ban anyone that watched Cuties
Brainy03-Aug-21 08:56 PM
It really depends on the expression. If someone just said they watched Cuties, I would say it's fine, it's a movie on Netflix. If someone posted a screenshot of a girl from Cuties bending over and wrote "cunny" all over it, that could definitely fall under sexualization of a minor and Discord could legally be required to report it to NCMEC. That would be the kind of thing we want to combat and the reality is artwork does fall under this, because it's seen as one avenue of promoting sexualization of minors.
Black Lily
So we ban anyone that watched Cuties
Mumu from NYC03-Aug-21 09:00 PM
I was so mad when I found out that was a real thing
Brainy03-Aug-21 09:01 PM
That gif example, even if artwork may not involve sexualization of a minor, text added to artwork can transform it into having expression that arguably promotes sexualization. Within the US, there are laws protecting artistic expression (which is what anime/manga fall under). But there are also laws prohibiting any promotion of sexualization / exploitation, which verbiage can do.
So in other words, non-sexual imagery with text applied to it can actually be more serious than sexual artistic depictions.
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I don't think it was your fault. I think the idea was good. The implementation was just out of touch with the community and poorly delivered.
Krial03-Aug-21 09:26 PM
I think personally dot removing image perms for like 20 minutes like he probably originally planned to would have been fine
Brainy03-Aug-21 09:26 PM
Because of the person who delivered it. I think it just needed to be someone else doing it.
Krial03-Aug-21 09:27 PM
Oh wait
Y’all made a gay thread in nsfw chat and tried to make em keep it in there or something?(edited)
Brainy03-Aug-21 09:27 PM
Yeah and he tried to put futa in there too and the way he communicated it was condescending.
Black Lily03-Aug-21 09:27 PM
Can I let the retards out of gaybaby/timeout
🔇03-Aug-21 09:27 PM
Krial03-Aug-21 09:28 PM
Lmao the retards in gaybaby only post in nsfw anyways
🔇03-Aug-21 09:28 PM
Letting noopster/shonen out of gay baby does nothing tbh
Krial03-Aug-21 09:28 PM
I highly doubt they care
Black Lily03-Aug-21 09:29 PM
What about birb
Jason03-Aug-21 09:29 PM
i still think birb got shafted yeah
change it to gaybaby
🔇03-Aug-21 09:29 PM
If you want to, let them out. Ask pineapples. But he should get gay baby at most.
Black Lily03-Aug-21 09:29 PM
I'm only suggesting they be set free because it was the result of a shitpost
Jason03-Aug-21 09:29 PM
@Pineapples gaybaby birb a week timeout* is harsh(edited)
Krial
I think personally dot removing image perms for like 20 minutes like he probably originally planned to would have been fine
Jason03-Aug-21 09:29 PM
it aint fine
cause its like 5 things that happened in the span of a day
and people got really frustrated
Krial03-Aug-21 09:30 PM
Birb got fucked
Jason
it aint fine
Krial03-Aug-21 09:31 PM
That’s what I’m saying though. I think dot originally was kinda being a dickhead, but nothing overtly dumb. He’d have put em back after like 30 min or some shit. But then people escalated and it just became a shit storm. All in wrong but dot was primary cause there yeah
Jason03-Aug-21 09:32 PM
as i said earlier shitposting is fun and part of 4chan but when it happens too much people are gonna go elsewhere
Krial03-Aug-21 09:32 PM
Dick measuring between jannies is dumb as shit imo
And that’s exactly what happened.
Jason03-Aug-21 09:32 PM
when we have a handful of jannies and mods shitposting on cooldown and on one specific room it just gets tedious
Brainy03-Aug-21 09:33 PM
I feel like jannies should be acting more responsibly.
It's one thing for regular users to behave a certain way.
But we're being trusted to help moderate others.
It doesn't look good for us to appear to be singling people out or talking down to them like the stuff I saw today.
Krial03-Aug-21 09:36 PM
We aint mods. We aint here to throw people in timeout because they said something that hurt our feelings. The only reason we can, is because we are vetting etc
I think jannies should flat out not be able to timeout folks unless it’s actual illegal shit like CP posting.
Jason03-Aug-21 09:39 PM
i think timeout is fine
thats not the issue
or at least i didnt see anyone abuse it
the only reason this even happened aside from mod shitposting was an oversight that let jannies edit channels
"oversight"
Black Lily03-Aug-21 09:48 PM
Dank did abuse timout earlier
He timedout our favorite crossdressing eu for disagreeing with him in #happening
And a few people for pinging him in #nsfw-chat before he left
Could argue that beef abused it when he timedout carl for being a sperg in #nsfw-chat but I don't think that was abuse
Krial03-Aug-21 10:03 PM
I personally think punishment period is a mod thing
Even on 4chan; jannies just recommend punishment. At best they can put folks on a 15 min post timeout if they’re doing illegal shit til a mod can look at it
Thas just my two cents tho
Brainy03-Aug-21 10:07 PM
Going to hate me for this, but if we developed some clear internal guidelines or rules on engagement on when and how timeouts are doled out, it would probably cut down on a lot of the inconsistency.
June03-Aug-21 10:07 PM
oh great I finally come back to discord and this shit is starting again
Brainy
Going to hate me for this, but if we developed some clear internal guidelines or rules on engagement on when and how timeouts are doled out, it would probably cut down on a lot of the inconsistency.
June03-Aug-21 10:07 PM
make shit more clear, I'm for that
Krial
I think jannies should flat out not be able to timeout folks unless it’s actual illegal shit like CP posting.
June03-Aug-21 10:07 PM
because everyone has different ideas what jannies are for
Krial03-Aug-21 10:08 PM
Yeah entirely and no no I’m not trying to start shit lol
Just chiming in cuz I slept all day
June03-Aug-21 10:08 PM
I went back to work, then worked out, visited family and its like fuck
its starting again??!?!
Krial03-Aug-21 10:08 PM
Nah I agree with 99% of what was done tbqh
Cept messign with nsfw just leave it alone imo lol
Hide channel exists for ppl who don’t like it
Dot defo deserved a slap on the wrist for that shit I think
Also +1 for June just being mod
Brainy
Going to hate me for this, but if we developed some clear internal guidelines or rules on engagement on when and how timeouts are doled out, it would probably cut down on a lot of the inconsistency.
Dal29003-Aug-21 10:10 PM
STOP PUSHING FOR RULES REEEEEEEEE
June03-Aug-21 10:10 PM
Krial03-Aug-21 10:11 PM
Only other thing I’d chime in with is I think that distoibed Jannie purge idea isn’t bad at all and ppl should have a say so if they think we are being fuckheads with it
ExecutiveJackbotBOT03-Aug-21 10:12 PM
Das racist
June03-Aug-21 10:12 PM
I think a vote on keep / not care / kick would be a good idea
bit tedious with how many
could make the bot do that actually pretty easy
bout a 5min job
Krial03-Aug-21 10:13 PM
Yeah, that’s part of the problem imo there are too many (well were til 2 got yoinked lol)
Now that two are down it may be fine but I still think vote should be honored even if ppl are meme voting just to cause shit
June03-Aug-21 10:14 PM
yeah
so people can see we comply and are not 'rulling'
Dal29003-Aug-21 10:15 PM
The issue with voting will always interested in mingling with it
That and we already ignore the results of one to keep a jannie in
Krial03-Aug-21 10:15 PM
Thas just par the course
June03-Aug-21 10:15 PM
which is why you bias it, if you want to maintain power
Krial03-Aug-21 10:15 PM
People are gonna fuck with it, but to serve those who have actual issues, gotta look into it at least
June03-Aug-21 10:15 PM
just look at US politics :)(edited)
Dal29003-Aug-21 10:15 PM
It's a whole lot of song and dance for nothing, I am really sick and tired of doing any song and dance
June03-Aug-21 10:16 PM
yup
Dal29003-Aug-21 10:16 PM
If somebody is a jannie and they are doing good, we let them do the thing, if they abuse it, we yoink it, we already approved the idea of jannies being a trial mod thing and keeping people in it or removing it was the intention
This was already discussed, don't know if it needs to be complicated further
Stannic03-Aug-21 10:17 PM
Krial03-Aug-21 10:17 PM
Yeah just not doing anything also is always an option and just letting shit die down/calm down
Either way ima eat and stop bothering mod chat Lolol
Mumu from NYC03-Aug-21 10:17 PM
eat this knuckle sandwich
are people still causing drama jesus christ
Krial03-Aug-21 10:20 PM
Nah no drumu
June03-Aug-21 10:23 PM
its all good krial
speak your mind
just tired and grumpy
Stannic03-Aug-21 10:29 PM
DON'T LECTURE ME WITH YOUR $30 NITRO
Perrine03-Aug-21 11:11 PM
Just avoid turning jannies and mods into a popularity contest
Last thing we need is good old boys and circle jerks
Black Lily03-Aug-21 11:12 PM
You're all good old boys
Perrine03-Aug-21 11:13 PM
Excuse me I'm a young and beautiful anime
Uh
Fox? Girl
What are ukons again
1
Stannic
DON'T LECTURE ME WITH YOUR $30 NITRO
/u/GemManBad03-Aug-21 11:24 PM
June03-Aug-21 11:25 PM
LOL
Jason04-Aug-21 12:11 AM
well no rules except for illegal shit is no rules
but id imagine if someone went overboard
it would stir a lot of shit
and would be actionable
Perrine04-Aug-21 12:14 AM
Jason04-Aug-21 12:14 AM
basically
Black Lily04-Aug-21 01:26 AM
Furshit should be banned
Thankfully the ones we have are good lads and didn't do this
Perrine
Just avoid turning jannies and mods into a popularity contest
Brainy04-Aug-21 02:38 AM
This is why I am against the idea of having it go up to vote among the server population. I feel it should instead be up to the vote / recommendation of other mods / jannies. There should be confidence in the common sense ability of people who are being added.
Having it go up to public vote just turns it into a popularity contest.
Eric04-Aug-21 02:42 AM
i think no matter how much we grow
this is enough jannies and mods
because active user count almost never changes
Brainy04-Aug-21 02:44 AM
Yeah I mean realistically this should be enough, assuming we're diverse enough, where we always have someone actively checking on the most popular text and voice channels just based on their own browsing interest and activity.
Eric04-Aug-21 02:46 AM
also to the nsfw chat discussion
i actually want it gone now
its just nsfw pics 2
not only that, im tired of this coomer only atmosphere im starting to notice more and more.
i understand sometimes i can have my moments in that chat and elsewhere but holy shit
when people only talk about cock dick balls cum butthole for 24 hours of the day and only that
we gotta fix something
i elect to just merge it with nsfw pics, and name it nsfw
less of a focus of a chat
tell coomers go to vrd
Brainy04-Aug-21 02:49 AM
I feel like we can accommodate two channels if it's what you guys want. But I've always been of the opinion it's really unnecessary to have two channels as it just gives us two places to moderate the same type of content. Especially when we have to worry about people posting content against Discord guidelines.
Eric04-Aug-21 02:50 AM
without any hint of jelly and co. i think we are fine with cunnyposting for now
i cant see people using it to get us banned
Brainy04-Aug-21 02:50 AM
Also if Discord ever does go public, you will see them pass rules that prohibit adult content, so it may not be the best thing to focus user attention / devotion to in the longterm if it will just be more controversial later once we have 5 NSFW channels to remove them. lol
Distoibed04-Aug-21 02:50 AM
admin of vrd tells people to migrate to his discord server
Eric04-Aug-21 02:51 AM
yeah that sounds bad lol
but i barely use vrd because its dead
Brainy04-Aug-21 02:51 AM
VRD?
Eric04-Aug-21 02:51 AM
its like 10 messages of actual worth per 3 days
nsfw-chat the server
Brainy04-Aug-21 02:51 AM
Who runs that one?
Jason04-Aug-21 02:51 AM
Fuck off
If you don't like images go to general 1 then
lmao
Brainy04-Aug-21 02:52 AM
?
Jason04-Aug-21 02:52 AM
im so sick of this conversation
@ beef not you rainy
Brainy04-Aug-21 02:52 AM
Ohh
If they have their own server for that kind of content, maybe it's a good thing to have people just go there?
Plus we have plenty of other splintercords, including the footcord.
I don't consider it bad if they're using this event to ask more people to join their Discord. But that's just me.(edited)
Dal29004-Aug-21 03:00 AM
Yeah ngl I don't think we need to discuss rattling the cage of the coomers much more, kinda said and done deal.
Eric04-Aug-21 03:00 AM
ill stop now but my thought stays the same and i eventually will talk about this later
not soon, but soon™️
Dal29004-Aug-21 03:02 AM
I'll be there to voice my opinion of holy shit dude we built them a containment zone and you fuckers need to stop kicking it for no other reason then to satiate your own autism
If you don't like /vrg/'s discord being coomer centered, help fix that, but don't oppress motherfuckers who are just being nasty motherfuckers in a 4chan discord, who do you think goes here
Eric
ill stop now but my thought stays the same and i eventually will talk about this later
Brainy04-Aug-21 03:07 AM
Yeah I mean for the record I agree with you 100%. I just also agree now is the worst possible time to even consider it. The idea was good, just executed in the worst way possible to the point of antagonizing people.
The only thing I think we should be worried or keep an eye on with those channels for now is the usual stuff like gore and also (per my suggestion) things that fall under the pin I made. Although I'm uncertain if we've officially adopted that or not. But that's my recommendation.
Dal29004-Aug-21 03:08 AM
Its self moderated in that regard
People don't like gore
If somebody post it, like some have done before they are jumped by people calling the mods
Jason04-Aug-21 03:09 AM
It's frustrating because there's literally no reason for it
there's no problem you are fixing
you are just fiddling for the sake of fiddling
do we want less channels in general? Cause I've not seen any talk of that, you just wanna fuck with nsfw chat for whatever reason
I don't mind the idea of combining nsfw pics into chat to just reduce clutter on the sidebar but really what is that going to do except annoy the people who do use nsfw pics?(edited)
Dal29004-Aug-21 03:11 AM
I'm in agreement about don't fix what aint broke
Nsfw-chat is well used, people like it, and people's bias or dislike of people using it isn't what's wrong with /vrg/, the shit some of you see is deep rooted and can only be fixed by actual work and reform
You don't want people eating away weekends with coomer events or not playing games, so do I, but I see no point in taking out frustration on people doing what they want to do, it's their choice in the end
Jason04-Aug-21 03:13 AM
the thing is the coomers eating away events on the week and weekends aren't even nsfw chat
its vrlg
ExecutiveJackbotBOT04-Aug-21 03:13 AM
I'm crying RN
Dal29004-Aug-21 03:15 AM
I'd help by booting up weekend gaming or something, but I have a lot on my plate as it is, you have to be the change you want to see
If we're in consensus on not making any changes to either NSFW channels for now (which it sounds like we are in both camps), would it be okay to clarify that here, as people seem to be under the impression it's still under "attack" so to speak?
Just to reduce some of the user anxiety around it.
Jason04-Aug-21 03:23 AM
it is under attack though
and has been almost constantly for almost since the inception of the discord
Dal29004-Aug-21 03:24 AM
I think people are good, mods doing wonky business is par for the course of vrg
Jason04-Aug-21 03:24 AM
Dot and Dank no longer being jannies will help that impression a lot
but it's been like a full day of fucking with a lot of people's favorite channel for no reason other than funni
just needs time for people to calm down, at least give it a few days before you haha funni again
maybe fuck with happening instead
Brainy04-Aug-21 03:30 AM
I don't think it was just to be "haha funny" personally. I feel like there were good intentions behind it. But I do think it came off that way unfortunately with how Dank delivered and enforced the change. I also agree it wasn't fair to users. I'd like to see someone assure Phossu and others that we hear them loud and clear on that though, so they're aware nothing is going to be changed for now.
Jason04-Aug-21 03:30 AM
dank came in midway, dank didn't start all this
Black Lily04-Aug-21 03:30 AM
Too much text
Jason04-Aug-21 03:30 AM
the beginning of this was pure shitposting
Black Lily
Too much text
Brainy04-Aug-21 03:30 AM
Sorry
Black Lily04-Aug-21 03:31 AM
Can you guys calm down and play video games
Jason04-Aug-21 03:32 AM
i have been
i dont think there's really anything to be done about it, it's sorted
Brainy04-Aug-21 03:32 AM
Does it harm anything to just tell people that though?
Jason04-Aug-21 03:32 AM
mod voting voted, nsfw chat is gonna stay how it is barring a name change
no i can mention if youd like
Brainy04-Aug-21 03:33 AM
That it's buried and they don't need to worry about it?
Just so they know we hear them and we're not ignoring them.
Dal290
Nsfw-chat is well used, people like it, and people's bias or dislike of people using it isn't what's wrong with /vrg/, the shit some of you see is deep rooted and can only be fixed by actual work and reform
Eric04-Aug-21 03:33 AM
probably the most thought changing comment for me
even though i still hate nsfw chat
Brainy04-Aug-21 03:33 AM
I'd do it myself, but I'm just a Jannie, I don't represent the server to people lol
Plus I don't feel comfortable doing that without people in charge thinking it should be done.
Eric
and change my mind about things
Jason04-Aug-21 03:34 AM
no
cause we aint changing shit unless you get the votes
Eric04-Aug-21 03:34 AM
i never said anything about changing shit(edited)
i said about what i think
votes arent set and stone shit cuz i could keep spamming the vote shit with the same question but thats gay and being unreasonable
dal's comment is probably the best way to describe what i hate about this group the most
Jason04-Aug-21 03:36 AM
that isn't this group though
Eric04-Aug-21 03:36 AM
coomer shit is just deep rooted shit, not much is going to change cumbrain minds
Jason04-Aug-21 03:36 AM
so harassing it isnt going to help you
Eric04-Aug-21 03:36 AM
and that too, you saying vrlg and vrg is different
and it totally is now
its almost like all the "what headset do i buy" anons actually bought and came back
Mumu from NYC04-Aug-21 03:37 AM
cum is a powerful tool can you blame them
Eric04-Aug-21 03:37 AM
no
sad people cum the hardest, thats all
Jason04-Aug-21 03:39 AM
in my 2 years of vrg so far the crossover of vrlg and nsfw chat is not nearly that significant
i dont know hardly anyone in vrlg
Eric04-Aug-21 03:40 AM
it quite literally went from everyone using thread
to moving to discord
Dal29004-Aug-21 03:40 AM
I remember the first Pavlov game I hosted had been decimated because of an orgy(edited)
Eric04-Aug-21 03:40 AM
to moving to dms and actually talking to each other in game if they want to fuck
old vrlg evolved social skills to fuck each other
nu vrlg keeps asking for redpills
Dal29004-Aug-21 03:41 AM
Trash opened up too much and we have had two minors slip in through it
I don't like what I see
1
Eric04-Aug-21 03:42 AM
this is why i applaud the tda hating anon and his copypasta
also 2??
Pineapples04-Aug-21 03:43 AM
Jesus, I think I've got a lot to catch up on... time to spend the next hour reading shit and replying to things super late.
Eric
to moving to discord
Jason04-Aug-21 03:43 AM
not this discord though
their own discord
Dal29004-Aug-21 03:43 AM
Ivan is a minor
Eric04-Aug-21 03:43 AM
was referencing first vrd
Jason04-Aug-21 03:44 AM
my point is what does that have to do with nsfw chat
Dal29004-Aug-21 03:45 AM
People are understandably angry at the culture of free super open trash businesses seeping into /vrg/
Eric04-Aug-21 03:45 AM
wasnt the point i was trying to go into, im saying that dal is saying what he said is pretty much reminding me nsfw chat isnt what i should be shitting my pants over
Dal29004-Aug-21 03:45 AM
This is a byproduct of that frustration
Jason04-Aug-21 03:45 AM
fair enough
Mumu from NYC04-Aug-21 03:45 AM
vrg fucks more than trash anyway
Jason04-Aug-21 03:46 AM
not wrong
trash does have a stank about it though
which is why i avoid it
Eric04-Aug-21 03:46 AM
but unironically
Mumu from NYC04-Aug-21 03:46 AM
those fuckers dont fuckin do anything at all
Eric04-Aug-21 03:46 AM
trash thread stinks because coomer only accounts are the absolute worst
unless its an alt
unbelievably boring people
Mumu from NYC04-Aug-21 03:46 AM
they literally only thread post
Black Lily04-Aug-21 03:47 AM
@Pineapples do you have an issue with me letting bird out now since he was only put in timeout because of a shitpost(edited)
Mumu from NYC04-Aug-21 03:47 AM
so I went wow this place stinks I'm gonna go shitpost in nsfwchat instead
Eric04-Aug-21 03:47 AM
i joined on trash months ago
Black Lily04-Aug-21 03:47 AM
I hate trash
Eric04-Aug-21 03:48 AM
hes into accurate medabot maids
made this face in my headset, and got off
Jason04-Aug-21 03:48 AM
tfw only went to trash to bang nabutso
Eric04-Aug-21 03:48 AM
based
Black Lily04-Aug-21 03:48 AM
Ew
Jason04-Aug-21 03:48 AM
now i have no desire to return
Eric04-Aug-21 03:48 AM
a man gets what he wants
a man leaves
Jason04-Aug-21 03:49 AM
the trash thread is particularly bad cause
i know at least a few people who have been put in a sour mood because of schizoposting
Eric04-Aug-21 03:49 AM
im like 250% takarow told people about vrlg, plus schizo carl/jelly posts, and now the new meta of empty instances
i only use trash to aquire beg anons' requests being fulfilled
Mumu from NYC04-Aug-21 03:50 AM
classic asset beggar beef
Eric04-Aug-21 03:51 AM
Black Lily04-Aug-21 03:51 AM
But how did takarow find it in the first place
Eric04-Aug-21 03:51 AM
more assets to never use
Krial04-Aug-21 03:51 AM
Speaking of assets beef
I remember now
Eric04-Aug-21 03:51 AM
YEAH
Krial04-Aug-21 03:51 AM
Lol
Eric04-Aug-21 03:51 AM
YOU REMEMBER NOW
thanks
Krial04-Aug-21 03:51 AM
Sec
Eric04-Aug-21 03:51 AM
fat boobers will now be my new meta soon
Eric
im like 250% takarow told people about vrlg, plus schizo carl/jelly posts, and now the new meta of empty instances
Dal29004-Aug-21 03:51 AM
Word of mouth+no filter does that
I don't doubt 40% of the posters are new to 4chan in general
It's starting to look like another vrchat hookup site without the bios
Eric
hes into accurate medabot maids
Distoibed04-Aug-21 04:05 AM
sounds even better
Eric04-Aug-21 04:05 AM
Dal290
It's starting to look like another vrchat hookup site without the bios
Distoibed04-Aug-21 04:11 AM
sounds like it's a constant fight between ">Muh sekrit club" and "Go back"
Jason
@Pineapples gaybaby birb a week timeout* is harsh (edited)
Pineapples04-Aug-21 04:50 AM
Yes, it is. He spammed porn in a sfw channel. I get that he was upset because he couldn't do whatever he wanted for a brief time, but he's a grown fucking man. He can deal with it like a reasonable person and talk about his concerns. He has no excuse for spamming porn just because he was having a tantrum. He knows full fucking well what the consequences are for that and he can deal with them.
Brainy
Going to hate me for this, but if we developed some clear internal guidelines or rules on engagement on when and how timeouts are doled out, it would probably cut down on a lot of the inconsistency.
Pineapples04-Aug-21 04:54 AM
Replying super late here, so I don't know if this has already been discussed, but I think some general guidelines would be a good idea. Obviously nothing concrete, but a general idea so we can have some consistency. Previously all the mods were pretty much on the same wavelength and understood how things work. I think now we've got people who are either too new to have a full grasp of how we run things, or they just somehow never picked up on it. It's resulting in things getting far more inconsistent and it's pissing people off.
Pineapples
Replying super late here, so I don't know if this has already been discussed, but I think some general guidelines would be a good idea. Obviously nothing concrete, but a general idea so we can have some consistency. Previously all the mods were pretty much on the same wavelength and understood how things work. I think now we've got people who are either too new to have a full grasp of how we run things, or they just somehow never picked up on it. It's resulting in things getting far more inconsistent and it's pissing people off.
Dal29004-Aug-21 04:56 AM
I think generally speaking rushing forward without discussing things when you are new is pretty basic stuff, but rules are a slippery slope that could bind our hands and fuck things up
Common sense is a pretty solid system, it has worked so far, and I swear to fuck I'll punch any motherfucker that comes in with things like regulations, guidelines, or any of that, please stop suggesting we turn this into a painfully regulated system or something we have to "wait on" or deal with people working around.
Dot abused his jannie frequently, dank was ramrodding shit because he hates coomers and couldn't help it
This shit is not only clear cut, it's obvious as hell with many of the people's background here
"we can't remove dot's jannie because he didn't violate guideline #24" like come on
Dal290
Common sense is a pretty solid system, it has worked so far, and I swear to fuck I'll punch any motherfucker that comes in with things like regulations, guidelines, or any of that, please stop suggesting we turn this into a painfully regulated system or something we have to "wait on" or deal with people working around.
Distoibed04-Aug-21 05:01 AM
What even happened with dank
Distoibed
What even happened with dank
Dal29004-Aug-21 05:03 AM
While we were trying to patch up the issues with nsfw-chat he forced a hastily discussed decision of "NO GAY PORN IN NSFW-CHAT" and started directing people to the threads section, he didn't discuss it past a minute and just wanted to start baton batting coomers.
Which we also discussed, not so sure about threads, they are too in beta and the bot can't clean them
Invalid demoted, support the decision and all that
Black Lily
@Pineapples do you have an issue with me letting bird out now since he was only put in timeout because of a shitpost (edited)
Pineapples04-Aug-21 05:03 AM
See my response to Jason a moment ago.
Dal29004-Aug-21 05:05 AM
@Pineapples Also, you know I am completely against the idea of bugging somebody about bans/decisions because I was really tired of watching yuru kneel on people's necks over how they were going to unban people/chicken out and all that.
In this case, I think the decision of allowing jannies which we agreed to slap in and out on a whim like dot resulted in the current retaliation
I'm going to bug you just once, bruh they reacted to a dumb jannie being dumb
Dal290
I think generally speaking rushing forward without discussing things when you are new is pretty basic stuff, but rules are a slippery slope that could bind our hands and fuck things up
Pineapples04-Aug-21 05:07 AM
Yeah, super strong emphasis on the 'guidelines' part of it. Absolutely not any remotely solid rules. Just so we don't get two people doing the same thing, but one of them getting put in gay baby for an hour while the other is in timeout for a week.
No, Discord, fuck off.
Dal29004-Aug-21 05:07 AM
Haha nice, but yeah I hate the idea of dancing around or working around bullshit, kinda just had to do that
Dal290
I'm going to bug you just once, bruh they reacted to a dumb jannie being dumb
Pineapples04-Aug-21 05:08 AM
I got home from work, booted up my computer, and immediately saw Birbmang spamming porn. I don't give a fuck if he was angry about something, it was still porn spam. Again, he's a grown fucking man, he can fucking deal with it properly.
Anyone who decides to be a shitter instead of talking to us can get fucked.
I don't give a shit, those people can fuck right off because it's clearly not worth considering their opinion when that's how they go about it.
Pineapples
I got home from work, booted up my computer, and immediately saw Birbmang spamming porn. I don't give a fuck if he was angry about something, it was still porn spam. Again, he's a grown fucking man, he can fucking deal with it properly.
Dal29004-Aug-21 05:09 AM
I get that, but it's a good faith kind of deal, if you are flexible with people it helps them trust you more in the future, he won't act up because he will actually trust you past being "the guy who jannied him"
Pineapples04-Aug-21 05:09 AM
That's his problem. He broke a super clear rule, he knew what the consequences would be.
Dal29004-Aug-21 05:10 AM
Not stressing the point past that, in the end it is your decision, just trying to suggest a way to restore some faith in somebody like dot doing something fucking stupid, and us backing a resulting action
Pineapples04-Aug-21 05:10 AM
If it was something minor, sure. But again, it was porn spam in #general. People have gotten a week for one image in the past.
Dal29004-Aug-21 05:11 AM
Yeah I know, I just know I have not had people thank me for a decision since the tiger ban, people didn't trust dot for shit, and by extension us
Why the hell would you respect or trust a mod team that lets that kind of crap happen
Pineapples04-Aug-21 05:12 AM
Respecting mods? Here?
I'm sure I don't have to explain to you the amount of shit we've had to put up with just because we're mods.
Dal29004-Aug-21 05:13 AM
Haha yeah I am very well aware I still have my name dragged in the thread
Pineapples04-Aug-21 05:13 AM
Again, people can act like adults or they can fuck off. If they're going to act like a child, I'm not giving them any slack. I was done with that long ago.
If he'd just pinged mods 10 times in a row, I'd maybe be a little annoyed, but at least he's just bugging us.
Dal29004-Aug-21 05:14 AM
I understand the action completely
You do too
Pineapples04-Aug-21 05:14 AM
But no, he had to go start spamming shit he knows he's not supposed to and fucking shit up for the whole server.
Dal29004-Aug-21 05:14 AM
A beehive was kicked, bees came out
This is 4chan-esc, we have autistic fuckers, I believe there is a limit and people need to learn how to chill
Pineapples04-Aug-21 05:15 AM
Yeah, they do.
Hopefully a week of not being able to post anything will help him with that. Though I know it won't because he's an arrogant prick most of the time and that's not gonna change.
But at least he might think twice before doing it again.
Dal29004-Aug-21 05:16 AM
Eh, I have a question
Did he message you afterwards?
Pineapples04-Aug-21 05:16 AM
No, surprisingly.
I figure he probably will after a couple of days when it sets in.
Dal29004-Aug-21 05:17 AM
The thing is, people will try and work with somebody they know they can work it, and will adjust their behavior %200 if they message you about a decision like that after the fact
Pineapples04-Aug-21 05:17 AM
The first ~24 hours people are usually still on the high of "lole i broke da rulez and got bopped," then they start feeling bad about not being able to do anything.
Dal29004-Aug-21 05:18 AM
Most of the heavy bullshit I have done I talk with the person afterwards, if they are a completely unreasonable piece of smack, it goes nowhere
Pineapples04-Aug-21 05:18 AM
Again, he's arrogant as fuck most of the time and constantly brags and posts shit about himself with a chad emoji. I seriously doubt there's any working with him.
If he messages me and seems to honestly feel bad about what he did, I might shorten the sentence. Depends on how he goes about it.
Dal29004-Aug-21 05:20 AM
All I am sayin is, you go too heavy, they believe there is no chance and completely abandon the concept of trying because they don't trust you
Pineapples04-Aug-21 05:20 AM
But he'll probably just demand that I let him out, I'll explain to him the same shit I've explained here and his response will be ""
Dal29004-Aug-21 05:20 AM
Fuck him why even try and all that
Pineapples
But he'll probably just demand that I let him out, I'll explain to him the same shit I've explained here and his response will be ""
Dal29004-Aug-21 05:20 AM
If you get that kind of response then good fuck him he signed up for it
Pineapples04-Aug-21 05:20 AM
Good, I don't want him to trust me to let him out for clearly breaking rules just because he was angy at someone else.(edited)
Pineapples
But he'll probably just demand that I let him out, I'll explain to him the same shit I've explained here and his response will be ""
Mumu from NYC04-Aug-21 05:20 AM
his response will be "" well ain't that the truth
too real
Pineapples
Good, I don't want him to trust me to let him out for clearly breaking rules just because he was angy at someone else. (edited)
Dal29004-Aug-21 05:21 AM
Also my point is, we made the mistake of adding people to the team that created this conflict in the first place.
Pineapples04-Aug-21 05:22 AM
Yeah, I get that, but it's no excuse to spam porn.
For the final time, he can deal with it like an adult and discuss it with us. No need to start shitting the place up.
Dal29004-Aug-21 05:22 AM
People's trust in the ability to complain about something other then begging mommy for free milk and cookies is ruined
Pineapples04-Aug-21 05:23 AM
He wasn't complaining, he was throwing a tantrum and breaking rules.
Dal29004-Aug-21 05:23 AM
Yee, but like the image spam when carl or darkwizard came into channels
People adapted and changed their response to crap, remember when we dealt with chain gang
You guys slowly curbed that until people stopped doing it, established something a lil eh in place
But you get the idea, people are just responding the way they know how
Dumb jannies did something stupid let me sperg
Pineapples04-Aug-21 05:24 AM
Yeah, we crippled the entire server's emoji posting ability and I think locked up anyone who was being a shitter.
That's fucking stupid. This place is 18+, everyone can be adults about it. If not, they can fuck right off.
Dal29004-Aug-21 05:26 AM
I just want to help repair the damage man
You can do what you want, I just wanted to pitch another concept
Pineapples04-Aug-21 05:27 AM
All good, no harm in discussing things.
In fact, it's better that we do.
Dal29004-Aug-21 05:27 AM
Yeah, I feel like people get confused when I ask them why they are sperging/upset/ect
Like cryptic, he was genuinely confused when I just asked what he was angry about
He has lost all concept of actually fixing the problem and started responding by banting all day
Pineapples04-Aug-21 05:28 AM
Oh fuck, I've been so confused, I keep seeing "June is typing..." and thinking June is sitting there starting to type something out and changing his mind.
Yeah, Cryptic is also a total baby about everything.
I had a great time hanging out with him at PAX, but my experience with him on discord has mostly been pretty bad.
Pineapples
Yeah, Cryptic is also a total baby about everything.
Dal29004-Aug-21 05:29 AM
Because he has just gotten used to just bitching, kid you not, he is actually confused that "oh wait you mean I can actually suggest things constructively"
There is a complete breakdown of people feeling like they have input or control on things, we need to patch that up a little
Pineapples04-Aug-21 05:30 AM
That's why I spent over an hour last night just calmly talking with people about things.
They were being reasonable and actually communicating, so I was respectful with them as well.
If someone's go-to response to something they don't like is to trash the place then they're not worth any respect.
Dal29004-Aug-21 05:32 AM
Where are they going to learn different
Pineapples04-Aug-21 05:33 AM
They're not.
Ever.
Dal29004-Aug-21 05:33 AM
They can
Pineapples04-Aug-21 05:33 AM
If they get what they want from spamming shit, then that's what they're going to do every time they don't like something.
Dal29004-Aug-21 05:33 AM
Not painfully enduring 200 times crap of course I hate that shit
Dal290
"we can't remove dot's jannie because he didn't violate guideline #24" like come on
Brainy04-Aug-21 05:33 AM
I wouldn't suggest anything like that. More like just clear general guidelines for things like timeouts.
Dankememes for instance, I saw him timeout someone in #happening earlier today and I didn't really agree with that timeout.
Pineapples and I got drawn into a situation with Biggus last night where we warned him for harassing others in #general and being obnoxious. Someone took issue with that because they allegedly received an excessive timeout for doing less than that.
It sounds like we could improve our coordination on what circumstances warrant timeouts and for how long.
Brainy
I wouldn't suggest anything like that. More like just clear general guidelines for things like timeouts.
Dankememes for instance, I saw him timeout someone in #happening earlier today and I didn't really agree with that timeout.
Pineapples and I got drawn into a situation with Biggus last night where we warned him for harassing others in #general and being obnoxious. Someone took issue with that because they allegedly received an excessive timeout for doing less than that.
It sounds like we could improve our coordination on what circumstances warrant timeouts and for how long.
Dal29004-Aug-21 05:34 AM
What so people can figure out what constitutes a timout and skirt the line
If people are being retarded we bop em, jannies abusing we talk, then if they are dumb we bop them
Pineapples04-Aug-21 05:34 AM
Yeah, that time I said I spent last night talking with people was specifically about the issue of inconsistency.
Shit's gotten messy lately and it'd be good if we could smooth things out.
Dal29004-Aug-21 05:35 AM
Rules, and regulations are an extremely binding force, that is a subject I feel shouldn't come out
Pineapples04-Aug-21 05:35 AM
With Dot I saw that he seemed to be kind of messing with people, but I wasn't part of any discussion to bring him on as a jannie and I assumed people had already talked with him and would keep an eye on things to make sure he doesn't, well, act like Dot.
Dal29004-Aug-21 05:35 AM
We have to "wait for them to break a thing" or give them timeouts ect
Like everything, we can resolve inconsistencies by discussing it here
Pineapples04-Aug-21 05:36 AM
I don't mean actual rules, just some idea of what we should actually be doing about any issues, big or small.
Dal290
If people are being retarded we bop em, jannies abusing we talk, then if they are dumb we bop them
Brainy04-Aug-21 05:36 AM
But that's the problem. There's been a great deal of subjectivity in some instances from what I've seen. Someone having a different political or historical opinion shouldn't justify a timeout in my view unless there's something really objectionable about the way they're expressing it.
Pineapples04-Aug-21 05:36 AM
And also discussing things here helps.
Brainy
But that's the problem. There's been a great deal of subjectivity in some instances from what I've seen. Someone having a different political or historical opinion shouldn't justify a timeout in my view unless there's something really objectionable about the way they're expressing it.
Dal29004-Aug-21 05:36 AM
People need to ping mods that dank timed them out for something unreasonable
We put down rules, we fuck ourselves and remove the ability to handle things in a flexible manner
To boot, who is going to enforce those
Pineapples04-Aug-21 05:37 AM
Just some communication for things that are more vague, I think.
Brainy04-Aug-21 05:38 AM
That's why you come up with broad guidelines and not stringent rules. This isn't the justice system.
Dal29004-Aug-21 05:38 AM
People are more then afraid of even confronting another jannie/mod what makes you think they will bust some chops about their 5th abuse
Brainy04-Aug-21 05:38 AM
General guidelines can go a long way in promoting cohesion and consistency.
Dal29004-Aug-21 05:38 AM
And can be extremely binding and the start of turning things into a retarded structure
Pineapples04-Aug-21 05:38 AM
From now on, if I see something in actions where someone just locks someone up for something vague, I'll ask them in here for some context on what actually happened. Assuming it wasn't already talked about, of course.
Dal29004-Aug-21 05:39 AM
Rules/regulations are a bad idea and every time we have discussed this most of the team has turned it down
Pineapples04-Aug-21 05:39 AM
Again, neither of us are talking about proper rules.
Dal29004-Aug-21 05:39 AM
I hate to say it but for the love of christ stop jamming the subject, I don't want to say no in 50 ways again(edited)
Pineapples04-Aug-21 05:39 AM
Just a general idea of what we do.
I think you're just taking what we're saying as "we need to have a list of specific actions for specific violations."(edited)
Pineapples
Just a general idea of what we do.
Dal29004-Aug-21 05:40 AM
Preventing you from dealing with a shitter, creating a system you have to follow, creating conflict we have to discuss, contesting your decision
Just, fucking hell no
We are only like 300 people
Pineapples04-Aug-21 05:41 AM
Things would at least be better if people could just write a quick thing in here on why they dealt with someone, if it's not obvious from their action post.
Dal29004-Aug-21 05:41 AM
I don't want to discuss how I bopped some idiot spamming gore or something because 'technically speaking' he didn't violate handbook rule #4
Dal290
Preventing you from dealing with a shitter, creating a system you have to follow, creating conflict we have to discuss, contesting your decision
Brainy04-Aug-21 05:42 AM
If we create broad guidelines it's within our power to decide how and when they are enforced.
Pineapples04-Aug-21 05:42 AM
Rather than just situations where Dot would throw someone in timeout because... I don't even know why he did. And then no one would seem to check up on what actually happened, so he'd basically do whatever he wanted and be free to keep doing so.
Brainy
If we create broad guidelines it's within our power to decide how and when they are enforced.
Dal29004-Aug-21 05:42 AM
Then what is the point in creating them in the first place if they allow complete flexibility, you asking to refine them in the future because a new situation created the need to specificy
Brainy04-Aug-21 05:43 AM
I personally would like to see some clarification as to what scenarios we use which timeout roles too. That was something I was unprepared for with Biggus and I actually had to defer to Pineapples for that (which was frustrating for Comfy and others).
Dal29004-Aug-21 05:43 AM
Creating a bureaucracy creates the need to expand it
Pineapples04-Aug-21 05:43 AM
Things worked fine before because we had a handful of mods who all understood how things work. Now we have a ton of people, some of whom are either too impulsive or just don't know how they should act.(edited)
Dal29004-Aug-21 05:44 AM
Then we remove people who are too impulsive
Dal290
Then what is the point in creating them in the first place if they allow complete flexibility, you asking to refine them in the future because a new situation created the need to specificy
Brainy04-Aug-21 05:44 AM
Because then we at least have some idea of what's appropriate and inappropriate to moderate against, so we're not moderating against opposing opinion and harmless political expression, like what happened with Dankmemes.
Brainy
I personally would like to see some clarification as to what scenarios we use which timeout roles too. That was something I was unprepared for with Biggus and I actually had to defer to Pineapples for that (which was frustrating for Comfy and others).
Pineapples04-Aug-21 05:45 AM
If it's spam, gore, porn in sfw channels, things of that nature, then you hit them with a timeout. Maybe 1 day if they're not usually any trouble, longer if you know they do that kind of thing often. If they're just being too explicit in their flirtations with someone, chuck em in gay baby jail for a day or two.
Brainy
Because then we at least have some idea of what's appropriate and inappropriate to moderate against, so we're not moderating against opposing opinion and harmless political expression, like what happened with Dankmemes.
Dal29004-Aug-21 05:45 AM
who writes these guidelines
Us
Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.
Brainy04-Aug-21 05:45 AM
Pinned a message.
Dal29004-Aug-21 05:45 AM
Like fukin hell
Pineapples04-Aug-21 05:46 AM
Oh, and give 'em a ping telling them to stop if they're going a bit too far but aren't particularly awful.
Pineapples
If it's spam, gore, porn in sfw channels, things of that nature, then you hit them with a timeout. Maybe 1 day if they're not usually any trouble, longer if you know they do that kind of thing often. If they're just being too explicit in their flirtations with someone, chuck em in gay baby jail for a day or two.
Brainy04-Aug-21 05:46 AM
Even this is sufficient for just general guideline.
Pineapples04-Aug-21 05:46 AM
And then if they continue after that, you hit them with whatever punishment is appropriate.
Dal29004-Aug-21 05:46 AM
Got damn dude I am starting to get rubbed the wrong way with this intense desire to transform this into reddit
Pineapples04-Aug-21 05:46 AM
Rules are vague here and not listed anywhere, so we do need to have some leniency and give people warnings for things if they're not just outright spamming gore or something.
Dal29004-Aug-21 05:47 AM
I had to deal with this crap all day and now I am getting bombarded by this bullshit about RULES RULES RULES after we specifically said no thanks 40 different conversations
Fuck the hell off with this business
Please, stop asking this many times
Pineapples04-Aug-21 05:47 AM
We're not talking hard set rules. We've tried to explain this already.
I don't know where you're getting that idea from.
Dal29004-Aug-21 05:47 AM
Yes they are
Who the hell is going to stop any of you from violating everything you just put up
What is binding them to that
Absolutely nothing
Nobody will enforce it
Nobody wants to
Brainy04-Aug-21 05:48 AM
My impression has always been that we're fast and loose with expression, even crazy Carl posting, so long as it's nothing falling under violent hate speech or anything.
Dal29004-Aug-21 05:48 AM
Stop suggesting damn rules, guidelines, notes, tooltips, friendly tips, all that
Pineapples04-Aug-21 05:48 AM
I'm not talking about enforcement, I'm talking about everyone on the team having an understanding of how things usually go so that we don't get extreme responses to tiny things and then tiny responses to extreme things.
Dal29004-Aug-21 05:49 AM
So essentially
A rule
Pineapples04-Aug-21 05:50 AM
So what's the alternative, just let everyone decide entirely on their own and when one person gets put in timeout for a month for flirting with someone while someone posting gore gets timeout for an hour we just ignore everyone being upset at how inconsistent that is?
Dal29004-Aug-21 05:50 AM
I swear to god I am leaving if I have to read one more conversation about rainy asking for damn regulations after we heavily denied the subject
I am done with that
Pineapples04-Aug-21 05:50 AM
Rainy comes from a background of professional moderation. That's how she knows to word things.
Dal29004-Aug-21 05:50 AM
I know, I understand
It is too much, and I have had to have and read this conversation too much
Brainy04-Aug-21 05:51 AM
I personally feel like the situation with Dankmemes was a collective failure due to the lack of any guidelines (and therefore any restrictions) on when to use timeouts. The same for enforcing new posting guidelines and changes on users.
Dal29004-Aug-21 05:51 AM
It is a dead horse, stop beating it
Forcing subjects a million times is the bullshit I got real sick of the last go around
Pineapples04-Aug-21 05:53 AM
I can always just never give my opinion on anything unless I'm there at the exact moment people are talking about it if people have an issue with it.
Dal29004-Aug-21 05:54 AM
I know I don't mind you pinapples, but I am going to voice my opinion that Rainy has been turned down a million times on suggesting rules and the sorts and I am beyond sick of having it be a re-occurring thing while we are trying to sort out junk.
It's like suggesting the nuke again, we already denied the subject, stop saying it every time
Pineapples04-Aug-21 05:54 AM
Anyway, let's just leave it here then and let the others give their opinion whenever they're around. There seems to be some misunderstanding of intentions here, so this isn't working out and I don't want you to be stressing out over more dumb discord shit.
Rainy's just not familiar with how we run things. She makes suggestions, but they often don't result in anything and it can be good to discuss things. Her knowledge of how companies like Discord moderate their servers and users is also useful for us because previously we just had to make total guesses as to how they'd deal with us.
Dal29004-Aug-21 05:57 AM
I know the background, but as mentioned, nukes are not an option, it isn't productive trying, when people wake up, they will reply, we will have THE SAME conversation about no again, and all of this time
Will be wasted
I hate wasting words and time
Pineapples04-Aug-21 05:58 AM
That's just the nature of having 21+ people on the mod team who are around at different times.
Dal29004-Aug-21 05:58 AM
How many times has this kind of conversation received a positive glowing reception later
Brainy04-Aug-21 05:58 AM
I just feel like the situation with Dankmemes could have been avoided and I don't want to see us lose another potentially good person over "abuses" of power that may not be clearly defined. I also don't like people feeling upset at the inconsistency that may result either.
That's why I gave my suggestions. But I don't want to cause stress or unnecessary argument either. I won't discuss it any further tonight.
Dal29004-Aug-21 05:58 AM
"H-H-Hey g-g-guys what w-w-we d-did rules"
It feels like an overused shitpost
Pineapples04-Aug-21 05:59 AM
We've had people who've been moderating completely differently from how we've been doing things for the past year or more and it's been causing problems. Something needs to be done about that or we're going to keep dealing with drama every month from dumb shit happening.
I don't know what the answer is, but that's what discussion is for. So we can try to figure something out.(edited)
Dal29004-Aug-21 06:00 AM
Some of the problems are created from the previous pushing back of issues, dumping them onto our laps now
It won't be an issue past a scuffle or two, mostly everyone is functioning just fine, we just need to get people to actually try and talk issues out or complain, that's it
Lot of the tension comes from the state of things way outside of this discord, so we can't fix that
We can create as many fixes, or "rules" or ways to settle things, but the deep cleaning or resolving of this crap happens in VRC
Those guys letting minors in need to be talked to, nothing we do here will fix that kind of scummy bullshit
Pineapples04-Aug-21 06:03 AM
Yeah, we really don't have any control over that. Just gotta be vigilant about keeping minors out of this server.
Dal29004-Aug-21 06:04 AM
The issues mostly stem from how this community has functioned, not what we are doing now
Brainy04-Aug-21 06:04 AM
I agree and I feel whatever you guys decide to do, it's ultimately an issue of coordination. All the stuff today with NSFW could have been avoided if there was just an understanding of discussing major departures from policy and enforcement with the team.
Brainy
I agree and I feel whatever you guys decide to do, it's ultimately an issue of coordination. All the stuff today with NSFW could have been avoided if there was just an understanding of discussing major departures from policy and enforcement with the team.
Dal29004-Aug-21 06:05 AM
No manner of guidelines can stop people who openly want to fuck with a channel and it's inhabitants from doing so
They will do it "within guidelines"
We needed to have a hard bop and that kind of solves it for now
Do you see it being fucked with now
Pineapples04-Aug-21 06:06 AM
Well, that's the kind of thing that I feel we need to make sure everyone understands. No one should just be fucking with a channel's permissions like that without discussing it here and seeing if it's considered a good idea.
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Dal290
No manner of guidelines can stop people who openly want to fuck with a channel and it's inhabitants from doing so
Brainy04-Aug-21 06:06 AM
I mean, even just having an open understanding that those changes need to be discussed in here is enough to combat that sort of thing in my view.
Pineapples04-Aug-21 06:06 AM
Though I think making Dot a jannie was a mistake from the start, don't know why that even happened.
Brainy
I mean, even just having an open understanding that those changes need to be discussed in here is enough to combat that sort of thing in my view.
Dal29004-Aug-21 06:07 AM
You are in the place where people ban evade and find ways to fuck with jannies for a living
Dal290
You are in the place where people ban evade and find ways to fuck with jannies for a living
Brainy04-Aug-21 06:07 AM
Not new to me lol
Dal29004-Aug-21 06:07 AM
Including the jannies themselves
Nothing we can do can prepare for people being dumb
We just have to fix the damage
Pineapples04-Aug-21 06:07 AM
We just need the opposite of that one Elvis song. A little less action, a little more conversation.
Pineapples
We just need the opposite of that one Elvis song. A little less action, a little more conversation.
Brainy04-Aug-21 06:08 AM
Truer words have never been spoken lol
Pineapples
Though I think making Dot a jannie was a mistake from the start, don't know why that even happened.
Dal29004-Aug-21 06:08 AM
We actually held a public vote to see if people wanted him in and we "ignored" the results because he didn't want to be demoted
Pineapples04-Aug-21 06:09 AM
Though speaking of conversation, I think we've added more than enough pages of shit to read through in this channel today. Should we leave this here and just see what other's think later?
Dal29004-Aug-21 06:09 AM
Shit is being violated left and right and it all doesn't matter, what matters is people who talk this shit out
Pineapples04-Aug-21 06:09 AM
That wasn't a vote on Dot. It was far too vague.(edited)
Dal29004-Aug-21 06:09 AM
There was a direct vote on jannies to be removed
Dot was voted out within an hour
Pineapples04-Aug-21 06:09 AM
"People want a purge of jannies." Okay, who? Why?
Dal29004-Aug-21 06:10 AM
This was before that
Month ago
Pineapples04-Aug-21 06:10 AM
Hmm, lemme dig through and find that.
Dal29004-Aug-21 06:10 AM
We conveniently ignored the results of that to cover for him
Pineapples04-Aug-21 06:10 AM
Was it in #voting?
Dal29004-Aug-21 06:10 AM
I think so
Pineapples04-Aug-21 06:10 AM
I just figured others made the decision to add him, others would decide what to do with him.
I don't think he should've been made a jannie at all in the first place, but I never had any say in it.
Dal29004-Aug-21 06:11 AM
I didn't either, but he showed a little promise
Pineapples04-Aug-21 06:11 AM
Or at the very least I thought Asylum or Lily would've talked to him about it.(edited)
Yeah, he was okay at the start, particularly with vetting people. So I stopped following what he was doing closely.
Mumu from NYC04-Aug-21 06:12 AM
Would've worked out better as the gatekeeper
Overall*
Jason04-Aug-21 06:12 AM
Could bring back the welcome crew role
Pineapples04-Aug-21 06:12 AM
Ah, there it is.
Dal29004-Aug-21 06:13 AM
Welcome crew was harmless
Pineapples04-Aug-21 06:13 AM
@🔇 Did anything ever come of that? Did you talk to Dot after enough votes came in?(edited)
Jason
Could bring back the welcome crew role
Brainy04-Aug-21 06:13 AM
That would be nice for vetting just so we have historical insight and can avoid Ivan situations.
Dal29004-Aug-21 06:14 AM
I am pretty sure we discussed this already, at the time we decided to call it a shitpost and ignore the results
But selectively let in Jason
Mumu from NYC04-Aug-21 06:14 AM
Sus
Krial04-Aug-21 06:14 AM
Asylum asleep
FYI
Dal29004-Aug-21 06:14 AM
Again, we violate rules left and right, suggesting them is hilariously stupid
Krial04-Aug-21 06:14 AM
Just saying for pinging hims sake
Pineapples04-Aug-21 06:16 AM
I know, that's actually why I pinged him. So he'd see if it he doesn't spend the ridiculous amount of time of it takes to catch up on all of this.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<304-Aug-21 06:19 AM
that took a bit to catch up on all of that
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3
that took a bit to catch up on all of that
Mumu from NYC04-Aug-21 06:20 AM
Catch these hands
Dal29004-Aug-21 06:20 AM
Today on Mod Channel News we will be crunching the last hour/s? of talk
- lighten timeout it is mean establish trust
- tardo will do it again fuck him (true words)
- lets talk about r-r-rules again but only light ones guidelines really
- rules are stupid fuck you
- not really rules but kinda rules
- i am going to kill you stop suggesting rules
- just light suggestions really
- here is an instance of us violating our own system so far
- oh really shit damn
- dot was too silly lol
- welcome crew again
Mumu from NYC04-Aug-21 06:21 AM
Dal290
Today on Mod Channel News we will be crunching the last hour/s? of talk
- lighten timeout it is mean establish trust
- tardo will do it again fuck him (true words)
- lets talk about r-r-rules again but only light ones guidelines really
- rules are stupid fuck you
- not really rules but kinda rules
- i am going to kill you stop suggesting rules
- just light suggestions really
- here is an instance of us violating our own system so far
- oh really shit damn
- dot was too silly lol
- welcome crew again
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<304-Aug-21 06:21 AM
thats a pretty good summary of what i just read
Krial04-Aug-21 06:37 AM
why welcome crew
unless delete jannie role
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<304-Aug-21 06:38 AM
I do think we have enough people to vet
Pineapples04-Aug-21 06:39 AM
Yeah, with the extra mods and the jannies, the welcome channel seems well covered.
On the rare occasion that someone joins when I'm around, someone else almost always gets to them before I even see.
Mumu from NYC04-Aug-21 06:40 AM
Everyone gets in or yeeted extremely quick now
Unless it's the silent treatment and then at that point it's just like ?????
Pineapples04-Aug-21 06:41 AM
Yeah, it's always weird when I see someone joined and posted the numbers, but got no response until I see them 12 hours later. Then I wonder if they're a known problem and no one responded to them on purpose.
I think the only people I usually get to now are cases like that or if someone joins late on Friday night when everyone else is busy.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<304-Aug-21 06:43 AM
I try to get to them whenever i can but people are just too fast a lot of the time
Jason04-Aug-21 06:45 AM
Mostly just as a suggestion for if people wanted to keep dot on without the risk of abuse because he seemed good at it, i agree the amount of jannies and mods we have more than covers it
Perrine04-Aug-21 06:51 AM
Re: "rules"
If consistency in moderation is "having rules," I'm more in favor of that than wildly inconsistent responses to problems
Inconsistency just results in people playing fuckfuck games on both sides
You can be consistent without having a blind moderation rubric
Pineapples04-Aug-21 06:53 AM
Exactly my opinion. We just got by without this before because there weren't many of us. And whenever someone new joined, they understood things already by seeing how we acted. There were discussions on things a long time ago that set things in place, then it was just an unspoken thing that everyone knew.
Plus we were good about picking people who were on the same wavelength.
Perrine04-Aug-21 06:55 AM
Someone is bound to say they got slammed because of personal hatred, or someone got off easy because because they're buddies with mods.
But it'll happen faster and more frequently with inconsistent responses.
Consistency doesn't mean more moderation
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Pineapples04-Aug-21 06:56 AM
Yeah, people always make excuses and lie about the severity of what they did. Makes it hard to know when someone's actually being treated unfairly.
Dal29004-Aug-21 06:56 AM
Do I have to sign up for doing things according to a system
Pineapples04-Aug-21 06:56 AM
Nah, you're good.
Dal29004-Aug-21 06:56 AM
The answer is yes when you propose this
Black Lily04-Aug-21 06:56 AM
"Cab never did anything wrong what are you talking about"
Dal290
Do I have to sign up for doing things according to a system
Perrine04-Aug-21 06:56 AM
As stated, you can be consistent without setting up a rubric
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Pineapples04-Aug-21 06:56 AM
Everyone from before the nuke was already on the same page. It's more for the new people to understand.
Dal29004-Aug-21 06:56 AM
Does everyone think dot abused his powers
Black Lily04-Aug-21 06:57 AM
Also finally out of work and I see you guys never stopped
Dal29004-Aug-21 06:57 AM
It stopped for a good bit
Pineapples04-Aug-21 06:57 AM
I didn't follow everything he did because it always happened while I was asleep or at work. I assumed the others were watching things and that he was doing fine. Then this whole shitstorm happened.(edited)
Black Lily04-Aug-21 06:58 AM
He did abuse can't really argue that but I kept him for so long because his knowledge of people in vrchat is valuable
Dal29004-Aug-21 06:58 AM
Responsibility was handed to the incorrect party
Perrine04-Aug-21 06:58 AM
Literally just "If someone is being an ass, give them a slap in the wrist. If someone continues being an ass, start giving them mod bullshit. The beatings should continue until morale improves" is a fine example
Perrine
Literally just "If someone is being an ass, give them a slap in the wrist. If someone continues being an ass, start giving them mod bullshit. The beatings should continue until morale improves" is a fine example
Dal29004-Aug-21 06:58 AM
We had to do just that in the last cord
Every single moderation action was carefully measured and you had to do it according to the yubu way
We just learned the lesson of letting shit go or carefully measuring your responses
People stop taking you seriously and fully abuse knowing nothing will be done
Perrine04-Aug-21 06:59 AM
If what i proposed is what yuru did, that seems fine and reasonable. But from what you're continuing to describe, yuru didn't do what I'm describing.
So try not to equate them.
Dal29004-Aug-21 07:00 AM
Every single timout was carefully analyzed it was a pain in the ass
We had a system going and it was too loose
Black Lily04-Aug-21 07:00 AM
Yubu was doing his best
Pineapples04-Aug-21 07:01 AM
Yeah, strict guidelines on letting people continuously get away with shit.
We managed to make some progress, though.
Brainy04-Aug-21 07:01 AM
I feel like the whole history with Yuru clouds all discussions about policy whenever they come up because the assumption is whatever we come up with will be just like Yuru.
Even though it's clear nobody liked how Yuru did things.
Black Lily04-Aug-21 07:03 AM
I removed methkiss's image perms once because he posted gore in #general-2 and yubu gave them back to him
Pineapples04-Aug-21 07:03 AM
He generally wasn't too bad. It was just that sometimes he'd come up with shit and just make it official, even with everyone else telling him it was a shit idea.
Perrine04-Aug-21 07:03 AM
Literally just guidance is fine. "Try to give people a few chances, and if they're a repeat offender, escalate faster. Check the mod log to see if they're assholes"
Pineapples04-Aug-21 07:03 AM
Or we'd figure things out and he'd just say no, this needs to be a safespace hugbox for literally anyone, doesn't matter if they ruin the entire server for everyone else.
Pineapples
He generally wasn't too bad. It was just that sometimes he'd come up with shit and just make it official, even with everyone else telling him it was a shit idea.
Perrine04-Aug-21 07:04 AM
Happens often. The admin of anonkun is doing this and killing his shitty website
Dal29004-Aug-21 07:04 AM
Holy fuckings my power flickered and my internet went out
Pineapples04-Aug-21 07:04 AM
Yuru also didn't seem to be around much, so we'd spend a day dealing with shit and then he'd pop up and just make a decision on something himself, disregarding everyone else.
And I got the impression he didn't see the problematic people causing trouble, so he just assumed whatever we said about them was an exaggeration.
He'd seemingly have no context and just make decisions himself and force us to go along with it.
Dal29004-Aug-21 07:05 AM
I mention the yuru era of shit because yeah, I see some of this shit returning to what we just tried and dealt with
It was not fun, please stop suggesting we go back to the government policies we just jumped out from
Perrine04-Aug-21 07:06 AM
It sounds more like yuru tried to be consistent then ignored it
Dal29004-Aug-21 07:07 AM
Hands off was the attempt
Pineapples04-Aug-21 07:07 AM
We're not suggesting that...
Black Lily04-Aug-21 07:07 AM
We literally can't go back to that since all of us have equal power
Perrine04-Aug-21 07:07 AM
There are more than two moderation genders
Pineapples04-Aug-21 07:08 AM
I need to go break out a thesaurus to find softer words that are as far removed from any interpretation of 'rule' as possible.
Perrine
Literally just guidance is fine. "Try to give people a few chances, and if they're a repeat offender, escalate faster. Check the mod log to see if they're assholes"
Brainy04-Aug-21 07:08 AM
That's how we handled the situation with Biggus last night. Pineapples posted in here to let other mods know the situation so Biggus would be handled if he started to repeat the behavior. Which I feel is a good way to do things when it's trolling and shitposting that's pretty harmless.
Perrine04-Aug-21 07:08 AM
There's no binary
There's more than just "yuru way" and "no yuru way"
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ExecutiveJackbotBOT04-Aug-21 07:08 AM
I'm crying RN
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Perrine04-Aug-21 07:09 AM
Fuck you I'm an aromatic demisexual you bigot
Black Lily04-Aug-21 07:09 AM
We could try the true lily way
Perrine04-Aug-21 07:09 AM
I can't smell
Dal29004-Aug-21 07:09 AM
Sweaty, this is the aslyumcord, we have to become inmates
Mumu from NYC04-Aug-21 07:09 AM
Dal's f-list
Black Lily04-Aug-21 07:09 AM
@Dal290 I'm owner remember
Perrine04-Aug-21 07:09 AM
F-list.com/c/dal
Black Lily
@Dal290 I'm owner remember
Dal29004-Aug-21 07:10 AM
NO NO NO I DONT SEE THE CROWN SHUT UP
Mumu from NYC04-Aug-21 07:10 AM
But yeah it was like >mods find resolution >apply said solution >yuru comes back and decides otherwise
Black Lily04-Aug-21 07:10 AM
@Rasmus why are you gay
Perrine04-Aug-21 07:10 AM
@Black Lily you will wear the crown
Also tbh I'm not sure I've ever met you lily
Black Lily04-Aug-21 07:11 AM
Hi I'm lily
Perrine04-Aug-21 07:11 AM
I literally only recognize your name from the old poll idiocy
Black Lily04-Aug-21 07:11 AM
I'm here because people wanted me to be here(edited)
Mumu from NYC
But yeah it was like >mods find resolution >apply said solution >yuru comes back and decides otherwise
Brainy04-Aug-21 07:11 AM
So far we've been voting as a group on important decisions and bans in #mod-voting so we're already doing that differently.
Perrine04-Aug-21 07:11 AM
When my vote was "not orb"
Unless I'm misremembering who "not orb" was
Brainy
So far we've been voting as a group on important decisions and bans in #mod-voting so we're already doing that differently.
Dal29004-Aug-21 07:12 AM
I presented evidence of us selectively ignoring or interpreting what kind of input we want, the decision to overrule orb on the vote was one we made despite the results
Perrine04-Aug-21 07:12 AM
Pineapples04-Aug-21 07:12 AM
Yeah, that shit was the worst when we manage to resolve a situation, then Yuru pops in the next day after seemingly not even being around when it was discussed and decides on his own that we shouldn't have done anything and lets everyone off the hook, causing more trouble and giving everyone the impression that they can be a shitter whenever they want because Yuru will let them out within 24 hours.
Black Lily04-Aug-21 07:13 AM
@Perrine we met like once in vrc I think
Dal29004-Aug-21 07:13 AM
We are already all going by the bootstraps and any semblance of suggesting what we should and shouldn't do will be broken
Black Lily
@Perrine we met like once in vrc I think
Perrine04-Aug-21 07:13 AM
Oh nice. I hope i was cool
Dal290
I presented evidence of us selectively ignoring or interpreting what kind of input we want, the decision to overrule orb on the vote was one we made despite the results
Brainy04-Aug-21 07:13 AM
That was based on results from #mod-voting or #voting ?
Brainy
That was based on results from #mod-voting or #voting ?
Dal29004-Aug-21 07:13 AM
You mean the thing we treat as a joke and then select what results we want from it :^)
Voting yes mod voting thank god is taken seriously
Brainy
So far we've been voting as a group on important decisions and bans in #mod-voting so we're already doing that differently.
Pineapples04-Aug-21 07:13 AM
We did do that before, but then Yuru would decide a week later that they've had long enough to think about their actions and they should be let back in. Sometimes this process would repeat several times over.
Perrine04-Aug-21 07:13 AM
In general, some sort of external guidance helps us avoid playing favorites and hates too, just fyi
Pineapples
Yeah, that shit was the worst when we manage to resolve a situation, then Yuru pops in the next day after seemingly not even being around when it was discussed and decides on his own that we shouldn't have done anything and lets everyone off the hook, causing more trouble and giving everyone the impression that they can be a shitter whenever they want because Yuru will let them out within 24 hours.
Black Lily04-Aug-21 07:14 AM
Like when he posted about the warning from discord in #announcements
Dal29004-Aug-21 07:14 AM
Avoiding playing favs lead to too much bullshit before and I strongly recommend jumping back into the frying pan
Dal290
Voting yes mod voting thank god is taken seriously
Brainy04-Aug-21 07:14 AM
I take #voting with a grain of salt because if we relied on that then we'd have worse people in here as full-fledged mods.
Dal29004-Aug-21 07:14 AM
I think /vrg/ has functioned better just saying fuck it and talking shit out instead of following some kind of person or system
We have been going on for like, 2-3 months with minor issues at best
Jannies goof up and suddenly we need to restructure it all
Fuck that noise
We already discussed we would add and remove jannies on a whim, ngl, it works
Perrine04-Aug-21 07:16 AM
In general, yes, it works
But if it stops, you know what the solution is
Pineapples04-Aug-21 07:16 AM
Yeah, that way of doing things has worked out well for the most part. But imagine if people like Dot already had it made clear to them not to just fuck shit up so we wouldn't have a big mess to deal with in the first place.
Dal290
We already discussed we would add and remove jannies on a whim, ngl, it works
Brainy04-Aug-21 07:16 AM
This also gives people the impression they can brigade to get someone removed though.
Dal29004-Aug-21 07:16 AM
Damn dude I will suddenly become incapable of going damn that guy just messed with an entire channel and was acting like an idiot
Brainy
This also gives people the impression they can brigade to get someone removed though.
Pineapples04-Aug-21 07:17 AM
I think he means us deciding that, not just putting it up to a public vote.
That's why I don't think having public votes on removing a mod or jannie is a good idea, though. Too many people will vote against them out of spite.
Pineapples
That's why I don't think having public votes on removing a mod or jannie is a good idea, though. Too many people will vote against them out of spite.
Dal29004-Aug-21 07:18 AM
Public vote to remove you
Got damn
Pineapples04-Aug-21 07:18 AM
Like when we had to crack down on the 24/7 hornyposting in #general. If you held a vote, a ton of people would've voted me out because I was the one most actively dealing with the problem.
Dal290
We already discussed we would add and remove jannies on a whim, ngl, it works
Black Lily04-Aug-21 07:18 AM
I'm still going to run anyone I want to make jannie by you guys before doing it
Mumu from NYC04-Aug-21 07:18 AM
Well, I'm at least glad acts of moderation no longer get overruled on a dime
Pineapples04-Aug-21 07:18 AM
Shitters fuck up the server, mod deals with them, hold a vote, all those shitters and their friends vote the mod out.
Black Lily
I'm still going to run anyone I want to make jannie by you guys before doing it
Dal29004-Aug-21 07:18 AM
Yeah exactly, everyone here has functioned for months with minor scuffles
Pineapples
I think he means us deciding that, not just putting it up to a public vote.
Brainy04-Aug-21 07:18 AM
Oh I know. I'm saying that people will also learn that turning anything into a shitstorm means a mod being ousted. It risks creating more drama that way ultimately.
Dal29004-Aug-21 07:19 AM
Why fix what aint broke
Black Lily04-Aug-21 07:19 AM
For instance I've been thinking about making Comfy Pillow a jannie
Dal29004-Aug-21 07:19 AM
He is a pretty good choice, he runs a couple of servers and pays for them out of pocket, pretty solid guy on this kind of business
Distoibed04-Aug-21 07:20 AM
comfy doesn't want it
Perrine04-Aug-21 07:20 AM
Does me being a literally who make me a better or worse jannie
Pineapples04-Aug-21 07:20 AM
I dunno, I think he has his issues sometimes, but I may just be remembering wrong. He's definitely not a bad guy, though.
Black Lily04-Aug-21 07:20 AM
@Perrine I'm a literal who and I'm owner
Perrine
Does me being a literally who make me a better or worse jannie
Dal29004-Aug-21 07:20 AM
Your input has been more valuable then anything
Pineapples04-Aug-21 07:20 AM
Though I think we have plenty already. No need to pull in more or replace the two we've lost today.
Distoibed04-Aug-21 07:20 AM
been extensively told that he doesn't want to do discord moderation
Pineapples
Like when we had to crack down on the 24/7 hornyposting in #general. If you held a vote, a ton of people would've voted me out because I was the one most actively dealing with the problem.
Brainy04-Aug-21 07:20 AM
Yeah, this is exactly what I'm warning against here. Having a revolving door of mods that make controversial decisions (as DaL appears to suggest) only creates an environment where every decision can be made into a controversy to ouster a mod -- even when that mod is making a good, albeit controversial, decision.(edited)
Black Lily
@Perrine I'm a literal who and I'm owner
Perrine04-Aug-21 07:20 AM
Who are you again
Black Lily04-Aug-21 07:21 AM
Hi I'm lily
Dal29004-Aug-21 07:21 AM
Who is @Jason ?
Perrine04-Aug-21 07:21 AM
Hi I'm perrine
Black Lily04-Aug-21 07:21 AM
I'm ZipZoop's boyfriend
Black Lily
For instance I've been thinking about making Comfy Pillow a jannie
Mumu from NYC04-Aug-21 07:21 AM
Berni too
Distoibed04-Aug-21 07:21 AM
ew
gay
/u/GemManBad04-Aug-21 07:21 AM
hi im a cunt
Black Lily04-Aug-21 07:21 AM
That's all most people know me as
Jason04-Aug-21 07:21 AM
anyone know this guy
Perrine04-Aug-21 07:21 AM
My waifu is french, deal with it
/u/GemManBad04-Aug-21 07:21 AM
god damn frenchie
Distoibed04-Aug-21 07:22 AM
we have enough jannies tbh
Perrine04-Aug-21 07:22 AM
Ye
Black Lily04-Aug-21 07:22 AM
Sure
Dal29004-Aug-21 07:22 AM
I heard black lily inhales hot dogs with bread buns
Mumu from NYC
Berni too
Pineapples04-Aug-21 07:22 AM
I'm bad with names, is he the guy with the avatar that has a hologram face thing?
Distoibed04-Aug-21 07:22 AM
yeah
Black Lily04-Aug-21 07:23 AM
@Dal290 yes
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Mumu from NYC04-Aug-21 07:23 AM
Gooseman
Pineapples04-Aug-21 07:23 AM
Yeah, I think he'd be good if he's up for it. Pretty level headed and just wants everyone to be calm and happy.
We don't need any more people currently, but if numbers start thinning for whatever reason then I'd say he's worth considering.
Mumu from NYC04-Aug-21 07:23 AM
Yup
Perrine04-Aug-21 07:24 AM
Mumu from NYC04-Aug-21 07:24 AM
I'm honestly surprised he wasn't among the first few
Unless he was asked and just said no
Pineapples04-Aug-21 07:25 AM
I think I got mixed up and thought Distoibed was him at first because they come across as quite similar to me.
Mumu from NYC04-Aug-21 07:25 AM
Lmao
Brainy
Yeah, this is exactly what I'm warning against here. Having a revolving door of mods that make controversial decisions (as DaL appears to suggest) only creates an environment where every decision can be made into a controversy to ouster a mod -- even when that mod is making a good, albeit controversial, decision. (edited)
Dal29004-Aug-21 07:25 AM
I think we should hold a vote to decide who is owner, and what direction the server is going to take
Brainy04-Aug-21 07:25 AM
I don't have any issues with the current owner
Dal290
I think we should hold a vote to decide who is owner, and what direction the server is going to take
Mumu from NYC04-Aug-21 07:25 AM
Yubucord rerun!!!
Perrine04-Aug-21 07:25 AM
I don't even know who the owner is
Dal29004-Aug-21 07:25 AM
That was a joke if that wasn't clear
Mumu from NYC04-Aug-21 07:26 AM
I'm so smart dude
Pineapples04-Aug-21 07:26 AM
I was gonna say, I feel like that's a joke...
Mumu from NYC04-Aug-21 07:26 AM
Dal290
I think we should hold a vote to decide who is owner, and what direction the server is going to take
It's the kind of thing where you need to have been around a long time and/or know him well to pick up on the sarcasm.
Brainy
I seriously can't tell with him oof
Dal29004-Aug-21 07:27 AM
We need to talk more to see each other as people rather them magical text words
Pineapples04-Aug-21 07:27 AM
Text sure as fuck doesn't help...
Brainy04-Aug-21 07:28 AM
Also doesn't help the stuff being said earlier lol
Pineapples04-Aug-21 07:28 AM
Did you ever hang out with Rainy back in the old days where we spent every weekday chilling in Johnny's rape alley?
Good times...
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Dal29004-Aug-21 07:28 AM
I feel as though I was just in a binding system, I am very violent when it comes to suggesting anything like it
Brainy04-Aug-21 07:28 AM
That and the whole insanity of the constant voting on the nuked server which was just
Dal29004-Aug-21 07:28 AM
I don't butter my words either, I apologize for being gritty
Distoibed04-Aug-21 07:28 AM
I am very violent
Perrine04-Aug-21 07:29 AM
The Pure Love Between Miho and Maho Nishizumi:
An Exploration of Romance and Passion in Anime
Part 1:
It all began in a log cabin in the woods. These two sisters
Mumu from NYC04-Aug-21 07:29 AM
??
Distoibed
I am very violent
Dal29004-Aug-21 07:30 AM
Perrine
The Pure Love Between Miho and Maho Nishizumi:
An Exploration of Romance and Passion in Anime
Part 1:
It all began in a log cabin in the woods. These two sisters
Black Lily04-Aug-21 07:42 AM
It would be better if they were brothers
Black Lily
It would be better if they were brothers
Perrine04-Aug-21 07:43 AM
Cuter if they're girls. Best if they're futas
Black Lily04-Aug-21 07:43 AM
Futa is gay
Mumu from NYC04-Aug-21 07:43 AM
Why yes it is
Black Lily04-Aug-21 07:44 AM
Boys > futa > girls
Black Lily
Futa is gay
Perrine04-Aug-21 07:44 AM
Black Lily04-Aug-21 07:49 AM
cola, soda, or pop?
Krial04-Aug-21 07:51 AM
Coke
Black Lily04-Aug-21 07:52 AM
Wrong
Krial04-Aug-21 07:52 AM
Everything is a coke.
Mumu from NYC04-Aug-21 07:52 AM
Soda
Black Lily04-Aug-21 07:52 AM
Wrong
Distoibed04-Aug-21 07:52 AM
inb4 "water"
Black Lily04-Aug-21 07:52 AM
Wrong
Jason04-Aug-21 07:52 AM
honestly i think we just say soda here but i dont really pay attention
Distoibed04-Aug-21 07:52 AM
but I always say cola
cus it's the brand
and I want the brand
Mumu from NYC04-Aug-21 07:53 AM
Tf
Black Lily04-Aug-21 07:53 AM
All of you are very wrong so far
Mumu from NYC04-Aug-21 07:53 AM
Do you call it a root beer cola
Sprite cola
Distoibed04-Aug-21 07:53 AM
I don't drink root beer
and I call sprite cola "sprite"
if I talk about "cola" I talk about Coca cola
Mumu from NYC04-Aug-21 07:54 AM
Nah that's lemon lime
Distoibed04-Aug-21 07:54 AM
if I want pepsi, I say pepsi
Krial04-Aug-21 07:54 AM
I call everything coke
Literally everything
Black Lily04-Aug-21 07:54 AM
It's pop
All of you are wrong
Krial04-Aug-21 07:54 AM
Get me a coke means
Mumu from NYC04-Aug-21 07:54 AM
Krial04-Aug-21 07:54 AM
Get me a carbonated beverage
Of whatever varying type(edited)
Mumu from NYC04-Aug-21 07:55 AM
Lemon lime coke
Distoibed04-Aug-21 07:55 AM
there are 2 pops
1 is wrestling lingo
other is when air escapes something
Krial04-Aug-21 07:55 AM
Yeah
Mumu from NYC04-Aug-21 07:55 AM
Gives you a literal coke with lemon and lime instead of Sprite
pro tip coffee and tea are good because they dont make you fat
/u/GemManBad
Fizz
Perrine04-Aug-21 08:44 AM
Buzz
Azuth04-Aug-21 09:08 AM
if it doesn't have booze in it, water
Mumu from NYC04-Aug-21 01:51 PM
@mod bots back
Pineapples
Ah, there it is.
🔇04-Aug-21 04:54 PM
When I checked it it was pretty even, so I just counted the mod/jannie votes at the time. There there more no votes than yes when only counting jannies/mods.
Black Lily
For instance I've been thinking about making Comfy Pillow a jannie
🔇04-Aug-21 04:55 PM
If he agrees, sure. I was going to have him become Eu mod instead of disto, but his response was “I’ll have a melty and leave the server every 2 weeks.”
Black Lily04-Aug-21 06:12 PM
The thread is even worse than usual today
Dal29004-Aug-21 06:20 PM
I am just waiting for the jannies to clean it up before making my shop post
Fuckers are really trying hard to push the discord drama agenda
Black Lily04-Aug-21 06:21 PM
I hope the discord free one wins
Dal29004-Aug-21 06:21 PM
I don't, removing it has never been an option because people will put it back in
Black Lily
The thread is even worse than usual today
Stannic04-Aug-21 06:22 PM
how bad
Dal29004-Aug-21 06:22 PM
Pretty much it's a peace deal, you concede to people doing junk like this, you enable them for the next subject, approving of this is what has created this drama as messing with the OP for the funni has been labeled fair game.
Stannic04-Aug-21 06:24 PM
whos leaking the discord minisode drama to the thread
Dal29004-Aug-21 06:25 PM
Not sure any of that was leaked, just shitstirrers, prob the same retards jumping on every opportunity to shit the thread up
Stannic04-Aug-21 06:27 PM
oh
Dal29004-Aug-21 06:29 PM
It's a pretty transparent build up of anti-thiscord posting, talking about yuru being a queen and using she as their joke, this is why we should delete discord posting, then it escalates to this kind of business
Brainy04-Aug-21 08:40 PM
I haven't checked the thread today, people are bashing Yuru in there?
LUL yet another Splitcord
I think I'm up to 4 now
This one actually doesn't seem like a bad idea. The purpose is to just give people the opportunity to find each other.(edited)
Azuth04-Aug-21 08:51 PM
phonebook's been around for a while
unless this is something new
Krial04-Aug-21 09:07 PM
It's literally YN trying to feel important.
That's why he's SLOWLY trying to change it to be just like the others
He tried to make some big changes earlier this week and people backlashed him hard, it'll prolly die off.
Black Lily04-Aug-21 09:16 PM
If only Yuki wasn't kinda retarded
ExecutiveJackbotBOT04-Aug-21 09:36 PM
Das racist
ExecutiveJackbotBOT04-Aug-21 10:49 PM
GAMER???
Eric04-Aug-21 10:50 PM
all he needs to do is update the rentry and stfu
Black Lily04-Aug-21 10:58 PM
Honestly the entire rentry is kinda cringe and needs to be updated as a whole
Krial04-Aug-21 10:58 PM
I asked that man a simple question for my event and he tried to force himself into it
Eric04-Aug-21 11:05 PM
hes a power grabbing retard
if theres a lead role, he hop skips and jumps for it
Black Lily04-Aug-21 11:11 PM
I disagree
I just think he's kind retarded
Like actually mentally retarded
Eric04-Aug-21 11:15 PM
same
Mumu from NYC04-Aug-21 11:49 PM
reminder he strong armed mona into putting his sos shit into the con map
Eric04-Aug-21 11:54 PM
i think i might update the rentry myself
sick of this bullshit with phonebooks and trash boorus
Krial
I asked that man a simple question for my event and he tried to force himself into it
Stannic04-Aug-21 11:59 PM
how so
Black Lily
Like actually mentally retarded
Stannic05-Aug-21 12:00 AM
thing with yuki is that he refuses to accept that he's a socially stunted autist
and thinks more highly of himself
he used to be a lot more humble too but i think him working 14 hours a day 6 days a week and having an important position at his dad's company along with making so many maps that many liked fed into his ego
Krial
I asked that man a simple question for my event and he tried to force himself into it
Mumu from NYC05-Aug-21 12:12 AM
LMAO
fucking yikes dude I know this isn't the chat to talk shit about people but god DAMN
Black Lily05-Aug-21 12:33 AM
I'd prefer if we didn't talk shit about people at all unless it's ban or welcome related
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Stannic
how so
Krial05-Aug-21 12:49 AM
Didn’t wanna vote, and wanted to help me make 4 new awards for all the people in his category
Black Lily
I'd prefer if we didn't talk shit about people at all unless it's ban or welcome related
Krial05-Aug-21 12:49 AM
Yeah agreed.
Krial
Didn’t wanna vote, and wanted to help me make 4 new awards for all the people in his category
Stannic05-Aug-21 12:50 AM
wot
what did you even have
kimono contest?
Krial05-Aug-21 12:50 AM
I’ll dm to not talk shit
Stannic05-Aug-21 12:50 AM
kk
Mumu from NYC05-Aug-21 01:13 AM
gonna put on my tinfoil hat and say
it seems like every time certain people get removed from the server the bots join
hmmm
Eric05-Aug-21 01:15 AM
Black Lily05-Aug-21 01:25 AM
You mean Carl? @Mumu from NYC
Brainy05-Aug-21 01:39 AM
The ones I've seen are promoting their own bot services or scam coins usually. It's a funny coincidence, but I don't think it's connected to Carl.
Unless the ones today were pointing somewhere else?
Mumu from NYC05-Aug-21 01:39 AM
Yeah it's pure coincidence but like shortly after carl was removed the bots came granted that was discord gate shit and probably still is, then stopped for a good bit. Then after yesterdays shitstorm once again shortly after bots came(edited)
I'm just schizo tho
But granted it was dank this time and not carl
Black Lily05-Aug-21 01:42 AM
Dank wouldn't do something like that
And Carl isn't smart enough
Brainy05-Aug-21 01:44 AM
Yeah it's a funny schizo coincidence, kind of ironic surrounding the biggest schizo poster but yeah it's just that. They hit lots of servers on the regular.
Black Lily05-Aug-21 01:47 AM
It's more than likely just random because of our vanity url
Black Lily05-Aug-21 07:00 AM
Krial05-Aug-21 07:01 AM
Cozy.
Perrine05-Aug-21 07:44 AM
Susumono a comf and a sleepy
Krial05-Aug-21 08:21 AM
Phossu wants VRC announcements to ping and be posted in announcements again; and I think this is a good idea.
Any way we can set that up?
Distoibed05-Aug-21 08:22 AM
Its possible easily, but I'm at work
Krial05-Aug-21 08:23 AM
Yeah that’s what I figured.
No rush or anything I just think that’s a solid idea that was prolly just overlooked.
Distoibed05-Aug-21 08:25 AM
Meeps did it before
Pineapples05-Aug-21 08:27 AM
Oh yeah, those were handy. Do you have to be in the discord to add their announcements?
Krial05-Aug-21 08:28 AM
I’m in their discord(edited)
Pineapples
Oh yeah, those were handy. Do you have to be in the discord to add their announcements?
Distoibed05-Aug-21 08:31 AM
You need to enter their discord and do something with their announcement channel
🔇05-Aug-21 09:33 AM
I’ll add that.
Brainy05-Aug-21 10:06 AM
Announcement integration (and relevant doc) linked here:
https://discord.com/channels/844705209615908914/844705211012218880/865380495579807794
Also worth mentioning the context behind that suggestion was so this server would have ownership over the #events being organized here (as right now, our moderators are putting in unnecessary manual effort cross-posting events in various splitcords, when this could be automated).(edited)
Stannic05-Aug-21 10:49 AM
Limit event announcements to a role or trusted people to not shit up announcements
🔇05-Aug-21 11:49 AM
I think it’s easier to just lock the shits from events.
We haven’t had any issues so far.
And only a handful of non-event related posts.
Krial05-Aug-21 01:52 PM
Ay. Can jannies have sticker update privs
Pineapples05-Aug-21 01:53 PM
They should be able to already.
Krial05-Aug-21 01:57 PM
Huh. Must be an oversight for mobile
I can edit emojis from bed but not stickers
Pineapples05-Aug-21 01:57 PM
I'd expect nothing else.
Give it a month or so.
Krial05-Aug-21 01:57 PM
Who cares just means I get to not be lazy
Pineapples05-Aug-21 01:58 PM
Yeah, not really a big deal, but still one of many things they slack on with the app.
Perrine05-Aug-21 03:56 PM
🔇05-Aug-21 04:00 PM
Distoibed05-Aug-21 04:24 PM
WHAT IN THE FUCK IS THIS
Stannic05-Aug-21 04:35 PM
what
Distoibed
WHAT IN THE FUCK IS THIS
🔇05-Aug-21 04:41 PM
What are you confused about?
Distoibed05-Aug-21 04:41 PM
not circular anymore
Black Lily05-Aug-21 07:11 PM
I hate these stickers
Perrine05-Aug-21 07:14 PM
I want to delete the foot stickers
they're so fuckin' groce
Stannic05-Aug-21 07:23 PM
whats with their recent obsession with this tanned eyo
Black Lily05-Aug-21 07:24 PM
Like Choobie
/u/GemManBad05-Aug-21 07:27 PM
VRCtubers
Look into it and scream
Mumu from NYC05-Aug-21 07:32 PM
Who added thawe damn stickers
Black Lily05-Aug-21 07:32 PM
@Distoibed
Mumu from NYC05-Aug-21 07:33 PM
I hate em
Delete this
Azuth05-Aug-21 07:34 PM
can we run a vote to stop actively harrassing the userbase
it's getting real old real quick
Azuth
can we run a vote to stop actively harrassing the userbase
Black Lily05-Aug-21 07:44 PM
We already argued about this for almost two days straight
Azuth
can we run a vote to stop actively harrassing the userbase
Brainy05-Aug-21 10:02 PM
What do you mean?
Azuth05-Aug-21 10:03 PM
mainly adding the ilulu stickers so soon after everything that's been discussed to death already to lily's point
Brainy05-Aug-21 10:10 PM
Gross I just saw the foot stickers
Why do we even have those?
Do we really need the entire server seeing that whenever they go to browse stickers?
Black Lily05-Aug-21 10:11 PM
I hate these
Azuth
mainly adding the ilulu stickers so soon after everything that's been discussed to death already to lily's point
Black Lily05-Aug-21 10:33 PM
Kind of an issue since they're already added removing them can be seen as fucking with the community
People requested them just so they can fuck with people that hate him
Mumu from NYC05-Aug-21 10:34 PM
(edited)
Krial05-Aug-21 10:39 PM
Stickers are garbage
And I hate ilulu
Lol
/u/GemManBad05-Aug-21 10:44 PM
The ilulu stickers are from a different server, there is an option to prevent people posting external stickers
Fuck off with the VRCtubers, fuck anyone who requested them
If i wasn't on mobile so help me god
Brainy05-Aug-21 11:02 PM
I don't see why it's an issue to remove stickers from the server that weren't even added until today and weren't approved by us or even the majority of users. Especially the foot ones since we're subjecting ever user in the server to looking at them if they ever want to use stickers.(edited)
I understand not wanting to stir the pot or create controversy, but I think just accepting disgusting emotes nobody asked for is going to create controversy anyways.
Krial05-Aug-21 11:13 PM
Well like 4 people asked for em to be fair
And we have dumbass emotes too lol
How many stickers can we have?
If it’s a lot who cares
And for the record I despise ilulu
Brainy
I don't see why it's an issue to remove stickers from the server that weren't even added until today and weren't approved by us or even the majority of users. Especially the foot ones since we're subjecting ever user in the server to looking at them if they ever want to use stickers. (edited)
Black Lily05-Aug-21 11:23 PM
Because it doesn't feel right for me to do something without consulting everyone here
Krial05-Aug-21 11:24 PM
I personally am for anything that makes people seethe
June05-Aug-21 11:26 PM
we should just remove them
Black Lily
Because it doesn't feel right for me to do something without consulting everyone here
Brainy05-Aug-21 11:43 PM
Yeah that's fair and the right thing to do
I'm in agreement with June but I'm only one person too. Should we do a mod vote on it?
I certainly don't see any need for them. People can post images themselves anyway, doesn't make any difference.
Black Lily05-Aug-21 11:46 PM
Pineapples05-Aug-21 11:46 PM
If they really want to post this shit, they can put the tiny amount of effort into attaching it.
Mumu from NYC05-Aug-21 11:47 PM
but pineapples
Pineapples05-Aug-21 11:47 PM
Same with the feet, plenty of people have all those images saved.
Mumu from NYC05-Aug-21 11:47 PM
forced = funny
Pineapples05-Aug-21 11:47 PM
Yeah, that's how most humour works on discord these days...
Black Lily05-Aug-21 11:49 PM
I think it's funny that the people forcing the Choobie/ilulu meme usually bitch about people doing things they don't think are funny
June05-Aug-21 11:52 PM
Pineapples06-Aug-21 12:04 AM
As for the introductions channel, seems too tedious to me. People join, have to go through the vetting process, then have to talk to people in another closed off channel?
Or is it just another channel anyone can post in? In which case... why? No one's gonna use it.
Azuth
can we run a vote to stop actively harrassing the userbase
Stannic06-Aug-21 12:22 AM
wdym userbase
you mean the people on this server or the people that follows ilulu
Jason06-Aug-21 12:22 AM
the people in the discord
Stannic06-Aug-21 12:22 AM
oh
i just wanted to know why people have attached themselves to this person like leeches
🔇06-Aug-21 12:24 AM
Please delete the cheetoe stickers. You can’t on mobile.
Stannic06-Aug-21 12:24 AM
deleted the cheetoe
Jason06-Aug-21 12:24 AM
🔇06-Aug-21 12:25 AM
Thanks. We can still discuss gay vtuber femboi that kuiwa masterbated to while they slept.
Dal29006-Aug-21 12:25 AM
Stannic06-Aug-21 12:25 AM
oh
That's why
don't care then
🔇06-Aug-21 12:26 AM
Yeah, that’s why they are being memed.
Kuiwa was following them and slowly became their friend, and then masturbated to their ass.
Jason06-Aug-21 12:26 AM
i think its reverse, kuiwa masturbated to them because he was being memed
and kuiwa loves eyos
i do know they were posted a lot before that
Distoibed06-Aug-21 12:26 AM
Kuiwa jerked to them cus their model has a great ass
🔇06-Aug-21 12:26 AM
They were very disgusted because they realized it half way thru, and then Unfriended him.
Distoibed06-Aug-21 12:27 AM
And the guy acts feminine
Stannic06-Aug-21 12:27 AM
right
lol
Jason06-Aug-21 12:27 AM
somewhere there's a discord where he talked about that
i wanna see that conversation
Stannic06-Aug-21 12:27 AM
well whatever
back to blender hell
🔇06-Aug-21 12:27 AM
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Distoibed06-Aug-21 12:28 AM
I added ilulu cus ashei and giga were visibly bitching in feedback about the stickers
Stannic06-Aug-21 12:28 AM
huh
why
Distoibed06-Aug-21 12:28 AM
And they were fine when i added ilulu
Cus both of them are whiney bitches
Stannic06-Aug-21 12:29 AM
o lol
@Krial please stop putting league on me
for fuck sakes man
it's not funny anymore
Krial06-Aug-21 12:30 AM
I'm actually not.
Lol.
Look it up, I haven't done that in forever.
Stannic06-Aug-21 12:30 AM
Black Lily06-Aug-21 12:59 AM
I forgot our majority changed since dank and dot are gone
Dal29006-Aug-21 01:04 AM
Just going to give a heads up, can we agree to discuss shit before pushing it to the voting channel, no idea what the proposed idea is
Krial06-Aug-21 01:05 AM
Removing ilulu sticker
Oh introductions
Is just a channel for new people to introduce themselves
For more hazing etc
Jason06-Aug-21 01:06 AM
That's welcome
Black Lily06-Aug-21 01:25 AM
But it wouldn't be necessary
Krial06-Aug-21 01:31 AM
Welcome is more so an interview chamber lately
Azuth06-Aug-21 01:42 AM
holds up spork
Black Lily06-Aug-21 01:48 AM
Can someone with access to a computer please kill the femboy stickers
Depends if he just goes straight back to what he was doing
Brainy08-Aug-21 09:26 PM
What did they do to get kicked before?
🔇08-Aug-21 09:26 PM
Be annoying and insufferable to other people.
Brainy08-Aug-21 09:27 PM
I'm willing to let them come back if they're saying they won't do it again. Then if they start in with it we can just kick them again.
Meeps08-Aug-21 09:29 PM
yeah im mostly on the fence, i hardly even know who they are
Brainy08-Aug-21 09:29 PM
Same
Meeps08-Aug-21 09:30 PM
totally willing to hear a case to keep him banned though, i can change my vote if needed
Brainy08-Aug-21 09:31 PM
Unrelated to this case (since I don't know the details), but I'm strongly in favor of appeals and allowing people back in to give them a chance.
Assuming what they got kicked for in the first place wasn't too egregious.
Stannic08-Aug-21 09:31 PM
he can keep being annoying and insufferable but if he tries to circumvent that and try to get at people once they block them then it's a kick
and remind people that the block feature exists for a reason
Brainy08-Aug-21 09:32 PM
Yeah I definitely stand behind that
At that point it's targeted harassment
Stannic08-Aug-21 09:32 PM
and if people are bitching about him annoying them because they have no self-discipline to not click the x removed message button then that's on them
it doesn't warrant a ban unless he decides to go full retard and get crashers and shit for vrc or start shitting up vr game meetup then yeah it's a ban
Stannic
he can keep being annoying and insufferable but if he tries to circumvent that and try to get at people once they block them then it's a kick
🔇08-Aug-21 09:35 PM
Yeah, he deliberately asked people to ping others because they had him blocked.
Stannic08-Aug-21 09:36 PM
yeah so thats a kick
🔇08-Aug-21 09:36 PM
I’m wondering if we should kick the enablers as well
Stannic08-Aug-21 09:36 PM
if he kedps doing it then hes working himself towards a ban
1
enabling?
🔇08-Aug-21 09:37 PM
The people who ping people when asked to do so.
Stannic08-Aug-21 09:37 PM
oh
yeah sure fuck them
Brainy08-Aug-21 09:37 PM
If it's literally them sending an overtly harassing message with the intent of enabling communication past a block, then I'd say it's bad for them to be enabling it.
If it's something like, "hey ___, can you message X the word 'no', since I can't message them," then there's some deniability.
But it's pretty obvious when people are just participating in the harassment.
Stannic08-Aug-21 09:38 PM
case by case deal i guess
ExecutiveJackbotBOT08-Aug-21 09:39 PM
Das racist
Brainy08-Aug-21 09:39 PM
Even Biggus and Comfy got the hint with blocking.
Stannic08-Aug-21 09:40 PM
yes
Brainy08-Aug-21 09:40 PM
Going around it is just... grow up plz.
They'll learn pretty quick if we start kicking for it.
Dal29008-Aug-21 09:40 PM
Bruh
Is the vote to ban him as a no or yes to ban him(edited)
Make sure to @ here about stuff like this btw, you missed some of the people like me to discuss this business :^)
Eva selectively harasses people past the initial block, I would dare say its like a CAB deal but thankfully this jackass is so limp he only does it on discord
🔇08-Aug-21 09:43 PM
Yes ban Eva, no don’t ban Eva.
Dal29008-Aug-21 09:43 PM
Yeah this kind of thing needs to be spelled out
Meeps08-Aug-21 09:45 PM
i just followed the format of the others
i'll edit
Brainy08-Aug-21 09:45 PM
I voted "no" as in don't ban (so they have a second chance).
Because if they start in with that shit immediately, we'll see it and just ban them anyways.(edited)
Dal29008-Aug-21 09:45 PM
Eh, again, I am confused on the vote, if we are voting on something as big as a ban we need to make sure its clear
Changing it afterwards aint transparent, think a revote is a good idea
Brainy08-Aug-21 09:46 PM
I'd just redo the vote honestly.
If there are concerns about it being unclear.
As opposed to editing it.
Dal29008-Aug-21 09:47 PM
Especially since this wasn't discussed enough
We have had lots of problems in the past of "I don't personally know them so I see no problem"
All fun in games until you are on the receiving end of that, or know people dealing with it
🔇08-Aug-21 09:48 PM
Don’t vote if you don’t want to.
Meeps08-Aug-21 09:49 PM
we voted to kick and did, he came back so i figured i'd put up a vote to deal with that
it wasnt random
Dal29008-Aug-21 09:49 PM
A vote to ban somebody was just passed off with 20 minutes discussion, an unclear vote, and no mention to others
Meeps08-Aug-21 09:49 PM
and it was worded the same way all the other previous ones were that werent a problem
Brainy08-Aug-21 09:50 PM
I'm not saying they shouldn't be kicked for that type of behavior. More that I do believe people should have the chance to return if they will discontinue the behavior and it wasn't egregious enough to prohibit them from returning.
Meeps08-Aug-21 09:50 PM
@herevote is up
Brainy08-Aug-21 09:50 PM
It's not an empathy issue to me basically. I empathize with the people they harassed.
Meeps08-Aug-21 09:50 PM
i redid the vote fresh and worded more clearly
Dal29008-Aug-21 09:50 PM
Vote is on if we should ban Eva or not
Just going to throw my two sense in that we should stop giving obvious malicious retards second chances, and giving a person more time to get attached to a place makes them come back with more rent free in the future
If he cleans up that would be nice, but bros, this place aint rehab
Brainy08-Aug-21 09:54 PM
People will trash talk and have beef with each other and take it too far sometimes. I just don't want to see people getting permanently kicked and shitlisted from this community forever with no hope of ever returning just because they were an idiot once. If that were the case then Biggus would be permabanned by now.
Dal29008-Aug-21 09:55 PM
To be fair
Biggus is actually funny
I would agree with you more rainy, I used to think the same
Brainy08-Aug-21 09:55 PM
I'm not advocating for a revolving door on egregious offenders. CAB for example demonstrated they had not and were not going to change, so it made sense to reject them. I just don't know if we've seen that from Eva yet.
I also feel there's a difference in setting boundaries for people on return, than not saying anything at all.
Dal29008-Aug-21 09:56 PM
We have years of history, I have had to watch too many mistakes, and I just dealt with mamamad being let into the book club event the other day "because he is technically one of us" while they screamed in the corner
Brainy08-Aug-21 09:56 PM
IE, letting them know, "we're letting you back in, but if you start up shit with X again, you're not going to get back in here next time."
Dal29008-Aug-21 09:57 PM
Yeah actual second change business would be a good policy and thing to get going
The place has too much history of being loose so most of these types know they can just step all over the place and nothing will happen
Dal290
We have years of history, I have had to watch too many mistakes, and I just dealt with mamamad being let into the book club event the other day "because he is technically one of us" while they screamed in the corner
Brainy08-Aug-21 09:57 PM
Whatever the story is with one user should not impact your decision making or attitude towards another though.
Brainy
Whatever the story is with one user should not impact your decision making or attitude towards another though.
Dal29008-Aug-21 09:58 PM
If only it was one user
Brainy08-Aug-21 09:58 PM
It's fundamentally unfair, especially when the nature of the offense can change. That's all I'm saying is to judge every case by the context and circumstance, because it involves unique people and unique situation, and sometimes stupid behavior can be corrected if you're just straight with a person.
I'm just saying this generally.
Dal29008-Aug-21 09:59 PM
If people don't respect other people for shit and fully intend to be a shitter it isn't just a matter of time, it is a matter of how many people are we going to let get jabbed by a retard before going welp I guess they stabbed the 25'th person
Brainy08-Aug-21 09:59 PM
Because I don't know the details in Eva's case.
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Black Lily08-Aug-21 09:59 PM
Who said mamamad was /vrg/
Are they retarded
Dal29008-Aug-21 09:59 PM
I'll resolve that matter on my own not throwing them under the bus and all that
Stannic08-Aug-21 10:02 PM
is this because of yuki being an all accepting and social retard(edited)
Dal290
The place has too much history of being loose so most of these types know they can just step all over the place and nothing will happen
Brainy08-Aug-21 10:02 PM
There have been many changes in ownership and how things are done, so people may think there are no consequences (at least no lasting ones). It makes sense in this type of situation to tell the user that they're being allowed back in good faith on the presumption they will not repeat the behavior again. That if they do, they will be banned and there's no appealing it.
Stannic
is this because of yuki being an all accepting and social retard (edited)
🔇08-Aug-21 10:02 PM
Yuru*
Stannic08-Aug-21 10:02 PM
lol
Yuru is in the book club?
🔇08-Aug-21 10:02 PM
No
Stannic08-Aug-21 10:03 PM
I didn't reply to dal
woops
🔇08-Aug-21 10:03 PM
Oh about the mamamad thing
Brainy
There have been many changes in ownership and how things are done, so people may think there are no consequences (at least no lasting ones). It makes sense in this type of situation to tell the user that they're being allowed back in good faith on the presumption they will not repeat the behavior again. That if they do, they will be banned and there's no appealing it.
Dal29008-Aug-21 10:03 PM
I think you have too much faith in people who accept or adhere to systems when any semblance of one has been dashed to hell, I would dare say it is unfair to expect that kind of chilling out business from people who have been allowed to smear shit on the walls for months/years
Stannic08-Aug-21 10:04 PM
^
Dal29008-Aug-21 10:04 PM
Okay retard, don't go smear poop on the walls again turns way OH SHIT HOW COULD THIS HAVE HAPPENED
Dal290
I think you have too much faith in people who accept or adhere to systems when any semblance of one has been dashed to hell, I would dare say it is unfair to expect that kind of chilling out business from people who have been allowed to smear shit on the walls for months/years
Brainy08-Aug-21 10:05 PM
That's why you impose and clarify new boundaries, so they at least have some idea of what they're doing wrong and how seriously it is going to be taken.
You're right that being lax with people created that kind of environment.
But being uncompromising and uncommunicative is not the way to do it in my experience either. People need to be told what they're doing wrong, when they're risking a ban (upon returning), etc.(edited)
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Dal29008-Aug-21 10:07 PM
As somebody who has had to directly face multiple cases of zero progress on changing, I just don't see the point in it, I'll rake up the complaints I get about him this time
But I really want to stress the point that letting in people we know are going to shake the boat shake it hard enough to fuck this up, in the time it takes to make a decision, some damage is done, somebody needs to get a pressure washer for those walls, and shit gets fucked
Brainy08-Aug-21 10:08 PM
That's when you impose real consequences like permanent bans and no appeals on the ban.
Black Lily08-Aug-21 10:08 PM
Will Kenji and Jelly ever move on
Dal29008-Aug-21 10:09 PM
Jelly is a strange case we can't compare to anything, hear business about him getting better then bouncing back worse then before
Kenji is just filled with all kinds of weird mental conditions, I think he was neglected or abused or something because he is all kinds of wonky
But yeah, this place has been shaken apart, events crashed, things fiddled with, and bullshit had many times
Keep that in mind when you want to feel like a nice person giving somebody a second chance that you aren't the one they are usually interested in messing with
Brainy08-Aug-21 10:12 PM
I understand that and again it's not out of a lack of empathy for victims that I say there should be individual evaluation of cases involving harassment. I just want us to be consistent about how we handle situations like these.(edited)
Dal29008-Aug-21 10:13 PM
Yee I understand what you want to establish, I just don't think a choatic 4chan place can handle that
Brainy08-Aug-21 10:13 PM
I also don't want to see us carrying out unnecessarily harsh punitive actions against people in situations where the offense was bad, but not so bad to warrant a permanent ban from this community with no hope of appeal.
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Dal29008-Aug-21 10:13 PM
When we were smaller we could handle things a lot easier and be more empathetic about his kind of junk
Meeps08-Aug-21 10:14 PM
if we lay out rules they get mocked and then challenged and memed. it's already been tried before
June08-Aug-21 10:14 PM
just got caught up and I want to say, I know you have been though a lot dal, but you do need to not always associate your past with the current moderation event
we do need to be harder and better at moderation, and are
the pendulum shouldn't swing back too hard
Dal29008-Aug-21 10:15 PM
>let in retard who will obviously go fuck with people again
That is kind of simple
June08-Aug-21 10:15 PM
you are being too biased, I mean yes, he is likely to because of muh 4chan and past history
but it literally feels like a 10% to 100% moderation
Dal29008-Aug-21 10:15 PM
I have no problem being bias, I am telling you me and a lot of other people were so burned out dealing with shit they were willing to vote for orb because fuck it let it burn
We need to change a bit more then just repeating the same junk you know
June08-Aug-21 10:16 PM
yes I know, I was there watching it all
Dal29008-Aug-21 10:16 PM
I'll be around advocating for lets not be stupid and subject people to bullshit
I'm also down to see if we can actually try and do second chances for real though
Watched too many of these cases just be an eventual ban anyway, don't see the point in the experience
June08-Aug-21 10:18 PM
alright, thats all I'm asking for. for this eva case, hes both new (not part of the history) and might just be a kid shitting up the place. I feel theres a harder slap between kick and ban we should do first
before banning him, whats his list of offences so far
I've had him blocked
Krial08-Aug-21 10:19 PM
Imo eva aint
Meeps08-Aug-21 10:19 PM
yeah i dont even really know what he did/does
June08-Aug-21 10:19 PM
has he been doing stuff like spaming images in each channel etc
Krial08-Aug-21 10:19 PM
Stalkin or doin any shit worth perma ban
Dal29008-Aug-21 10:19 PM
SILENCE KRIALLLL
Krial08-Aug-21 10:19 PM
Dude just was a shithead to some ppl
June08-Aug-21 10:19 PM
just harassment directly per user from what I know
Dal29008-Aug-21 10:19 PM
YOU LOVE EVERBODY AHHHH
June08-Aug-21 10:19 PM
which is why I blocked him(edited)
Krial08-Aug-21 10:19 PM
Nah I dislike people like cab
Who take it too far
Eva didn’t take shit too far
Meeps08-Aug-21 10:20 PM
i see him being like combative or disagreeable a lot but i dunno what else hes in for
Dal29008-Aug-21 10:20 PM
I think the biggest crime is he thinks getting blocked is an accomplishment
Krial08-Aug-21 10:20 PM
Then we tell him knock that shit off or gtfo
Imo
Meeps
i see him being like combative or disagreeable a lot but i dunno what else hes in for
🔇08-Aug-21 10:20 PM
Basically this. He just wants to be an annoying retard.
Dal29008-Aug-21 10:20 PM
He aims to piss people off and finds it entertaining, he can and will continue to peck people
June08-Aug-21 10:20 PM
oh another question, has he ever showed up in vrc? or any vr game?
Meeps
if we lay out rules they get mocked and then challenged and memed. it's already been tried before
Brainy08-Aug-21 10:20 PM
Then if you prefer, we keep rules like "do not harass people" as internal guidelines, which we are already effectively doing in practice, and develop consistent punishments around that, which we are are clear in communicating to users. Stuff like, warning Biggus that if he doesn't chill out, he's going to get an X hour Timeout, and that if he circumvents it, it's a week long ban, etc., and it just scales up from there depending on the nature of the offense and user history. That way, if someone like Eva does the same thing twice, they're not just getting a slap on the wrist the next time.
Krial08-Aug-21 10:20 PM
Yeah
June08-Aug-21 10:20 PM
does he even have vr?
Krial08-Aug-21 10:21 PM
He even did the bean challenge
June08-Aug-21 10:21 PM
eh?
June
oh another question, has he ever showed up in vrc? or any vr game?
Dal29008-Aug-21 10:21 PM
He showed up to the virt event and fucked with the camera a bunch
June
oh another question, has he ever showed up in vrc? or any vr game?
🔇08-Aug-21 10:21 PM
Yeah, he was at monas event and made a troll avatar for it.
Dal29008-Aug-21 10:21 PM
You know that weird dude making those prison jokes that one night
June08-Aug-21 10:21 PM
desktop?
ExecutiveJackbotBOT08-Aug-21 10:21 PM
GAMER???
Brainy
Then if you prefer, we keep rules like "do not harass people" as internal guidelines, which we are already effectively doing in practice, and develop consistent punishments around that, which we are are clear in communicating to users. Stuff like, warning Biggus that if he doesn't chill out, he's going to get an X hour Timeout, and that if he circumvents it, it's a week long ban, etc., and it just scales up from there depending on the nature of the offense and user history. That way, if someone like Eva does the same thing twice, they're not just getting a slap on the wrist the next time.
Meeps08-Aug-21 10:21 PM
yeah, i do agree that we need more consistency
🔇08-Aug-21 10:21 PM
Yes, he is furniture.
Black Lily08-Aug-21 10:21 PM
Doesn't really interact with anyone
June08-Aug-21 10:21 PM
hes just a worthless troll then
Krial08-Aug-21 10:21 PM
Wat
He’s actually not furniture
🔇08-Aug-21 10:21 PM
Pretty much
Krial08-Aug-21 10:21 PM
He’s 3 point
Black Lily08-Aug-21 10:21 PM
He has vr
June08-Aug-21 10:21 PM
does he have intentions of getting vr?
🔇08-Aug-21 10:21 PM
I’ve never seen him 3 point.
June08-Aug-21 10:21 PM
ah
Krial08-Aug-21 10:22 PM
Yeah he was showing off his hands
Or whatever he did to that Nier model
June08-Aug-21 10:22 PM
there is meme desktop hands mod
Meeps08-Aug-21 10:22 PM
yeah his name is something different ingame right?
Krial08-Aug-21 10:22 PM
Nah it was clearly vr
Meeps08-Aug-21 10:22 PM
i know who he is i just forgot
🔇08-Aug-21 10:22 PM
Nepnep(edited)
Black Lily08-Aug-21 10:22 PM
Nep nep
June08-Aug-21 10:22 PM
so make sure its hands + head crouching ik
Meeps08-Aug-21 10:22 PM
yea
June08-Aug-21 10:22 PM
ah that sucks, I got a friend name nep thats actually cool
Krial08-Aug-21 10:22 PM
I agree 100% with banning retards who don’t learn
Dal29008-Aug-21 10:22 PM
I think its nepnep 11 or something?
Krial08-Aug-21 10:23 PM
But I don’t think he’s been given proper chance to learn and or reform
No one even messaged him why he was kicked
June08-Aug-21 10:23 PM
he was kicked with warning right?
Krial08-Aug-21 10:23 PM
Til like 5 days later
June08-Aug-21 10:23 PM
the person that does the kick needs to always send the reasoning
🔇08-Aug-21 10:23 PM
@Distoibed kicked him. I was going to but not being home and all…
Dal29008-Aug-21 10:24 PM
I say the place has endured enough bullshit and we should stop letting people deal with bullshit because we want to not be meanies
June08-Aug-21 10:24 PM
make sure you do that next time @Distoibed I dont think it was communicated at the time but that should now be a rule
Dal29008-Aug-21 10:25 PM
R U L E
June08-Aug-21 10:25 PM
yeah we're swinging the moderation from fully retarded lax, to normal, lets not go full authoritarian and choke the fun out of the server and shoot everyone off elsewhere(edited)
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Krial08-Aug-21 10:25 PM
Wasn't distoibed fault imo
Dal29008-Aug-21 10:25 PM
Most servers and systems like this have most of the population functioning just fine
Krial
No one even messaged him why he was kicked
Brainy08-Aug-21 10:25 PM
This is I feel one of the biggest issues. We're not communicating to people (at least not on a consistent basis) what they're doing wrong to get kicked. We're also letting people back without communicating our expectations for them (such as what they should not be doing, or who they should not be engaging, or else they're risking a ban).
Dal29008-Aug-21 10:25 PM
Its always the %1 that breaks it
Krial08-Aug-21 10:25 PM
There were plenty of folks demanding he be kicked and no one wanted to show balls and message him.
I had to find him shit posting on the thread and get him to add me so i could tell him why lmao
June08-Aug-21 10:26 PM
and a 1% difference can be the fun
I used to shitpost 24/7 within reason with liquid and what not for short bursts
Meeps08-Aug-21 10:26 PM
we also really need to start considering who the people that are complaining are and what they actually are complaining about instead of just "i get tons and tons of complaints about this guy!"
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June08-Aug-21 10:26 PM
when that got cracked down I just stopped posting all together in the server
Black Lily08-Aug-21 10:27 PM
I miss Dankmemes
Meeps
we also really need to start considering who the people that are complaining are and what they actually are complaining about instead of just "i get tons and tons of complaints about this guy!"
Dal29008-Aug-21 10:27 PM
Yeah wired manages to tick off every one of these guys, I have to mentally separate him complaining vs others
June08-Aug-21 10:27 PM
for sure
wired hates everyone when hes on his period, which is 24/7
Black Lily08-Aug-21 10:28 PM
Wired likes me
Dal29008-Aug-21 10:30 PM
I don't even know eva that much either rip, I only raised some noise because I heard he fucked with the virtamate event and I remember him being weird at meets
Made the same prison joke about a sister or something for 5 hours to different people while they actively ignored him
It was odd
Dal290
I don't even know eva that much either rip, I only raised some noise because I heard he fucked with the virtamate event and I remember him being weird at meets
Brainy08-Aug-21 10:32 PM
What we hear can be valuable / relevant. But we should really try to judge people and individual cases based on the fact we know. Otherwise we risk being influenced by brigading or cliques. I understand that may not be the case here with Eva. Just saying this generally with how we look at cases overall.
Brainy
What we hear can be valuable / relevant. But we should really try to judge people and individual cases based on the fact we know. Otherwise we risk being influenced by brigading or cliques. I understand that may not be the case here with Eva. Just saying this generally with how we look at cases overall.
Dal29008-Aug-21 10:33 PM
Thankfully all of our cliques select rather obvious targets to get upset about, carl ect.
Brainy08-Aug-21 10:33 PM
How we moderate could change that.
Dal29008-Aug-21 10:33 PM
It kind of makes it hard to parse the ree this person ticked me off to wow this is obviously bullshit
Brainy08-Aug-21 10:34 PM
I feel the situation with Biggus is a good example of this.
Dal29008-Aug-21 10:34 PM
The /fit/ dude right?
Brainy08-Aug-21 10:35 PM
Because Comfy and others were out for blood wanting him gone (even after Pineapples and I acted) over trash talk and trolling that has historically been tolerated.
Dal29008-Aug-21 10:35 PM
Quick Q which comfy?
Brainy08-Aug-21 10:38 PM
At the same time, even after Biggus was warned and agreed to stop, Comfy was calling for us to remove him entirely in #feedback , which only served to antagonize Biggus more, eliciting further reaction/response and "trash talking" until we advised Comfy to "block" Biggus and stop.
Comfy#0001.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<308-Aug-21 10:38 PM
I got home from drill really late tonight. what did i miss?
Brainy08-Aug-21 10:38 PM
@#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3 Vote in #mod-voting on Eva and resulting discussion on how we handle warnings, timeouts, bans, generally speaking of problem people.
ExecutiveJackbotBOT08-Aug-21 10:38 PM
I'm crying RN
June
wired hates everyone when hes on his period, which is 24/7
🔇08-Aug-21 10:38 PM
Wired and I have a love hate relationship. (:
Brainy
@#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3 Vote in #mod-voting on Eva and resulting discussion on how we handle warnings, timeouts, bans, generally speaking of problem people.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<308-Aug-21 10:39 PM
kk
ExecutiveJackbotBOT08-Aug-21 10:39 PM
I'm crying RN
Stannic08-Aug-21 10:39 PM
i'd recommend to ignore his ass
Dal29008-Aug-21 10:39 PM
I am sayin fuck that because we have already let the place endure a few too many spergos while moderation decides to get its head out of its ass(edited)
but
Stannic08-Aug-21 10:39 PM
if he wants biggus out
he can fuck off too
Dal29008-Aug-21 10:39 PM
I am willing to see where this goes and I will laugh when it goes wrong again
Stannic08-Aug-21 10:39 PM
they're both being spergs
comfy wants biggus out because he's invading his little safe space
Brainy08-Aug-21 10:40 PM
They were both just fighting essentially and even if Biggus was the one who "started it", if it's trolling or trash talk we ordinarily tolerate, I don't see why it should result in a ban. Also, these two users now have "beef" with each other, so of course they'll butt heads.
ExecutiveJackbotBOT08-Aug-21 10:41 PM
I'm crying RN
Brainy08-Aug-21 10:41 PM
The point is that a Timeout did work (eventually) regarding Biggus once Comfy was calmed down and stopped antagonizing him.
But should Biggus be someone we consider banning in the future in the event he and Comfy butt heads (predictably) again? Depending on how harmless it is, probably not. At least in my opinion.
Stannic08-Aug-21 10:42 PM
hell no
Dal290
I am willing to see where this goes and I will laugh when it goes wrong again
June08-Aug-21 10:42 PM
feel free to laugh, but your still part of this and dont just try to separate yourself from it. your experience is wanted, but we shouldn't just hand out bans instantly left and right when we dont have a clear reason why.
Stannic08-Aug-21 10:42 PM
as much as he tries to pull the internet tough guy shit and trying to call people out
he has not done anything malicious
Dal29008-Aug-21 10:42 PM
Personally I think Biggus is pretty funny, he is escalating lately though I hope he calms down
June08-Aug-21 10:42 PM
I'm only asking for a little bit of restraint, not a full straight jacket like yuru
Stannic08-Aug-21 10:42 PM
why has he escalated recently
did he get an injection of steroids
did his balls shrink
Black Lily08-Aug-21 10:44 PM
I see biggus just talking to people most of the time
June
feel free to laugh, but your still part of this and dont just try to separate yourself from it. your experience is wanted, but we shouldn't just hand out bans instantly left and right when we dont have a clear reason why.
Dal29008-Aug-21 10:44 PM
I understand the point, but as a beat cop in detroit working with non lethal before, the idea of giving %13 of the population a chance isn't palatable
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Brainy08-Aug-21 10:44 PM
Biggus is an example of a user we have historically managed and can continue to manage. Of course there will be people he butts heads with like Comfy. But it comes down to whether we really should be banning people just because X user(s) have beef with them. That's why I use him as an example.
ExecutiveJackbotBOT08-Aug-21 10:44 PM
Das racist... wait no it's not
Stannic08-Aug-21 10:45 PM
i'd put a gag order on that retarded germ until he can fix his little god damn melties
Dal29008-Aug-21 10:47 PM
I would say log stuff with biggus if he keeps poking people, but I hung out with him extensively before in the VC's
Brainy08-Aug-21 10:47 PM
Yeah I didn't mean to hijack this into a whole thing on Biggus. He also hasn't done anything recently so far as I've seen. I just use him as an example because if we take an overly harsh approach to users, especially based on what other users think of them, then he'd be among the first to go.
Dal29008-Aug-21 10:47 PM
He likes being a dick but he has boundries and understands when he has gone too far ect.
Stannic08-Aug-21 10:48 PM
he's not eva
Dal29008-Aug-21 10:48 PM
Basically yeah
Stannic08-Aug-21 10:48 PM
he doesn't often go too far
and if there was a slap fight then someone likely got triggered first
and i'm assuming that's comfy because fuck going back to read whatever melty that autistic cunt did again
Dal29008-Aug-21 10:49 PM
Basically measure the brown
Stannic08-Aug-21 10:49 PM
but if they try to bend words and shit on unestablished rules and try to reason with mods that eva got banned why not biggus too then lmao get the fuck out you cunt
pull a whataboutism and i'm gonna ignore(edited)
like dal said
this ain't rehab
if they want a place to belong and interact then they can deal with some other people and behave or block
if we listened to all the shit feedback then might as well rename the hyperlink to this discord to safespace_vrg
Perrine09-Aug-21 12:30 AM
Give people proper and fair chances
especially if blindsided by new policies
sec, testing emotes
testing
testing
testing
Black Lily09-Aug-21 12:33 AM
Perrine09-Aug-21 12:33 AM
ye that's good
Black Lily09-Aug-21 12:39 AM
Eyebrows are too thick
Perrine09-Aug-21 12:52 AM
gotta be visible inline
June09-Aug-21 01:10 AM
Black Lily09-Aug-21 01:10 AM
Stannic09-Aug-21 01:14 AM
Perrine
Give people proper and fair chances
Stannic09-Aug-21 01:15 AM
Give them the unexpected American history x teeth to stone curb stomp special
Perrine09-Aug-21 01:17 AM
I love
Just an untouched, vanilla Psyduck
June
make sure you do that next time @Distoibed I dont think it was communicated at the time but that should now be a rule
Distoibed09-Aug-21 01:53 AM
Then the ones who bitched the hardest can do it the next time, because it was going absolutely nowhere
June09-Aug-21 01:54 AM
you did totally fine, was just mentioning you
just shoot whatever dickhead a message when you kick em
Distoibed
Then the ones who bitched the hardest can do it the next time, because it was going absolutely nowhere
Stannic09-Aug-21 01:54 AM
this
iirc it took 5 days for him to get the message
and distoibed had to do it after no one realized wtf happened lol
June09-Aug-21 01:55 AM
oooooooh
Distoibed09-Aug-21 01:55 AM
Krial did it
June09-Aug-21 01:55 AM
so the person who kicked wasn't distoibed
your good then homie, thanks for doing it
Stannic09-Aug-21 01:56 AM
ah
Distoibed09-Aug-21 01:56 AM
I didn't spoke with him
Stannic09-Aug-21 01:56 AM
i know krial and distoibed did something
Distoibed09-Aug-21 01:56 AM
I kicked him
June09-Aug-21 01:56 AM
oh
Stannic09-Aug-21 01:56 AM
i fucked off doing my own thing
June09-Aug-21 01:56 AM
krial messaged
either way fuck him anyways
Stannic09-Aug-21 01:56 AM
i just assumed someone was more eager to kick him
Krial09-Aug-21 02:31 AM
Distoibed was just doing what others kept saying to do
Shouldn’t have fallen on him. He wasn’t even aware of why it was, he just did it because no one else wanted their name on it I think
Either way shit don’t matta
Next time I think we just send em a message, that was the biggest confusion was a lot of people were saying we never messaged on kicks before which is fine, but I think we prolly should going forward. Otherwise ppl aren’t going to know what to not do
Dal29009-Aug-21 02:38 AM
I can explain it to him when the time comes sorry @Distoibed for having that fall on your lap and all that, unfortunately somebody has to pull the trigger on this crap and everyone being afraid to be the one, but not fucking hell editing wanting to do so isn't going to work.(edited)
Also @Krial for having to break the spaghetti in, we need to sort out how to handle this in the future
Krial09-Aug-21 02:40 AM
I rly don’t mind at all
It was just awkward being one of the folks who voted to not and then explaining why we did when I wasn’t rly on board with it from the get go
Dal29009-Aug-21 02:40 AM
Hey if there is one bonus on the voting deal
Krial09-Aug-21 02:40 AM
That being said I don’t mind having tough convos like that, I’m literally paid to do it
Dal29009-Aug-21 02:40 AM
We can agree that we don't agree on some things
Bluh, people not wanting to be involved with the kicks/bans that might influence how that bullshit is carried out, I am going to brainstorm while I try and sleep
Jason09-Aug-21 03:17 AM
im fine with kicking if need be ive just not needed to
June09-Aug-21 05:46 AM
I'm not mod otherwise I have zero issue with being the guy to do it every time
Mumu from NYC09-Aug-21 05:48 AM
Based
June09-Aug-21 05:49 AM
I've had people hate me a long time and moderated a large server mostly on my own. You get used to the backlash
Dal29009-Aug-21 05:51 AM
I made the mistake of cruising, been in my own zone and I forgot oh yeah we voted on something like that
I am actually, surprisingly, still used to these kind of discussions taking longer or being discussed to death
Black Lily09-Aug-21 05:52 AM
@June do you want mod?
June09-Aug-21 05:53 AM
If you would like me to, I don't really have motivations one way
Black Lily09-Aug-21 05:58 AM
I trust you more than enough to make you mod
Plus you'll be here forever because of the bot anyway
Krial09-Aug-21 06:16 AM
+1 for June
/u/GemManBad09-Aug-21 06:26 AM
+1 for my man(edited)
Dal29009-Aug-21 07:07 AM
Oh yee + from me
Pineapples09-Aug-21 07:11 AM
Fine with me too. Some people may see it as the whole "friends get to be mods" thing, but they can deal with it.
Azuth09-Aug-21 07:24 AM
let them make their own vr game then talk
june gets my vote too
Pineapples09-Aug-21 07:47 AM
Also, seems I misjudged Birbmang a bit. I ran into him last night and we chatted a bit. He wasn't even annoyed by nsfw chat being messed with, he was just shitposting a bit because of everyone else flipping their shit. He knew what the consequences would be and wasn't upset about it at all. Pretty rare around here.
Then we just talked for a while about boomer shooters and Max Payne. Not a single brag the whole time. Very different from most conversations I've had with him.
Dal29009-Aug-21 07:55 AM
Noice, glad things worked out
Distoibed09-Aug-21 08:55 AM
People tend to be nicer when the text chat aspect of communication is gone
Perrine09-Aug-21 10:00 AM
Text communication removes a lot of nuance
In VRC not only do you have voice, you have some aspect of body language
Brainy09-Aug-21 10:13 AM
My vote is for June mod too
Stannic09-Aug-21 10:19 AM
maek juen mod
Pineapples
Also, seems I misjudged Birbmang a bit. I ran into him last night and we chatted a bit. He wasn't even annoyed by nsfw chat being messed with, he was just shitposting a bit because of everyone else flipping their shit. He knew what the consequences would be and wasn't upset about it at all. Pretty rare around here.
Then we just talked for a while about boomer shooters and Max Payne. Not a single brag the whole time. Very different from most conversations I've had with him.
Krial09-Aug-21 12:34 PM
Birbs fucking great
Love that dude.
Distoibed09-Aug-21 12:40 PM
Seems like you love about any1 except for our flexible dancer
/u/GemManBad09-Aug-21 12:41 PM
who's the flexible dancer?
Distoibed09-Aug-21 12:41 PM
Cab
/u/GemManBad09-Aug-21 12:41 PM
ah
harmless but extremely persistent
Krial09-Aug-21 12:46 PM
Nah I dislike a bunch of ppl.
I just don’t make it obvious. And don’t dislike “them”, just some aspect of their personality.
Distoibed09-Aug-21 12:58 PM
<blog>Tried to do the same, but i rather dislike the person than to dislike an aspect, cus i keep seeing that annoying aspect constantly</blog>
Stannic09-Aug-21 02:03 PM
same
June09-Aug-21 02:40 PM
Here forever
Azuth09-Aug-21 02:46 PM
I straight up don't have the emotional energy to be a nice guy all the time, so I try to be patient with others
Mumu from NYC09-Aug-21 02:46 PM
imagine being nice
/u/GemManBad09-Aug-21 04:15 PM
my patience is near non existent now(edited)
Mumu from NYC09-Aug-21 04:27 PM
as it should be yes
ain't got no time to waste on bullshit
Azuth09-Aug-21 04:32 PM
I've only been mod for a month so I'm still green
I'm sure I'll become jaded soon enough
Pineapples09-Aug-21 05:27 PM
Things aren't bad these days, so it'll probably take a long time to become jaded.
Dal29009-Aug-21 05:27 PM
I have always seen things as gray, people I don't entirely like are people I can enjoy the company of
🔇09-Aug-21 05:27 PM
Dal…
Dal29009-Aug-21 05:27 PM
Never viewed it as disliking, with a few exceptions going so above and beyond that I go yep fuck that :^)
Not that I know of. I think he’s been sitting in welcome
🔇09-Aug-21 06:44 PM
Don’t think so. I haven’t heard anything lately.
Yeah, we have 16 out of 19 possible votes.
I was just going to wait for him to post that video he said he would make me.
Because I think it would be funny and cringe.
June09-Aug-21 06:45 PM
imo he just needs a warning then ban if he trips whatever we decide is the limit
Meeps09-Aug-21 06:45 PM
Oh okay. I keep forgetting we lost a couple
🔇09-Aug-21 06:45 PM
Ye was 21, lost 2.
June09-Aug-21 06:45 PM
dot & dank
Black Lily09-Aug-21 06:55 PM
I miss Dank
Meeps09-Aug-21 07:00 PM
i asked him about it the other day and he seemed pretty pissed still(edited)
ok not seemed
he was very pissed
Black Lily09-Aug-21 07:08 PM
I'm sure
Pineapples09-Aug-21 07:10 PM
If I have to choose, I say give Eva a chance, but make it clear that he can't just go around trying to piss people off and harass people.
I don't know how bad he was before, but if he wasn't even warned then it's only fair that he gets chance.
So basically what everyone else said already.
Brainy09-Aug-21 07:56 PM
I'm in agreement with June and Pineapples. Sorry for the delay
June09-Aug-21 07:57 PM
in my eyes hes on his final strike so, as long as he knows that he shouldnt be banned yet
but this horse is tired
🔇09-Aug-21 07:58 PM
Looks like we have all 19 votes, so I’ll wait for tomorrow to see if he makes that video and vet him as normal if not.
Dal29009-Aug-21 08:43 PM
I volunteer to chat with him if nobody is, going to make a habit of defaulting to taking it up so we don't have weird wait periods
Unless people swing the vote the other way for no reason it looks like we are going to be doing the give him a shot deal
Krial09-Aug-21 09:05 PM
I kinda know him a decent bit
I don’t mind doing it
Brainy10-Aug-21 10:07 AM
Does this guy contribute anything outside of racist vids/comments?
Pineapples10-Aug-21 10:09 AM
He's alright, just a bit edgy sometimes.
Brainy10-Aug-21 10:09 AM
It's not just that, I'm guessing it's more to do with the stuff he posts.
Pineapples10-Aug-21 10:09 AM
Could be, yeah. I wouldn't be surprised.
Not a bad guy, though.
Brainy10-Aug-21 10:10 AM
I'm just always spotting/deleting stuff from him and some of it lately has been like right on the edge.(edited)
I don't even want to type out what it was lol
Except it was a screenshot of someone else saying it on a different server
apologies for passing my phone around the meetup while trashed last night
Stannic12-Aug-21 01:49 PM
DEUS VULT DEUS VULT DEUS VULT DEUS VULT DEUS VULT DEUS VULT DEUS VULT DEUS VULT DEUS VULT
1
Perrine12-Aug-21 04:06 PM
what even
Krial14-Aug-21 09:31 PM
Chillcookie timeout week for sooo feeding?
I don’t even know who that guy is
Oh sweet already did
Based
/u/GemManBad14-Aug-21 10:03 PM
yeah i already knew about chillcookie and the rando, just standard vetting when they decided to speak in welcome
Pineapples14-Aug-21 11:28 PM
Looked into Chillcookie's message history and I see a bunch of stuff that makes it clear he knows his way around 4chan, so at least we don't have to worry about him being some spoonfed rando bringing in his friends.
Dal29015-Aug-21 01:17 AM
The issue stems a lil deeper then that, we have like 3-4 friend circles from other places converging in
Kinda what has happened over time, eventually friends of friends tell their friends what to say and how to pass and they get in
Eventually we will hear about how this guy suddenly remembers how he browsed something back in the day
Dal290
Eventually we will hear about how this guy suddenly remembers how he browsed something back in the day
Krial15-Aug-21 02:08 AM
And we rightfully tell him to eat shit.
Dal290
The issue stems a lil deeper then that, we have like 3-4 friend circles from other places converging in
Distoibed15-Aug-21 04:03 AM
it's usually a rando joining an instance and sees that the vrg people are some kind of group
they ask if there's a discord where they talk in, and nobody has the balls to say "you need to find it yourself"
Distoibed
it's usually a rando joining an instance and sees that the vrg people are some kind of group
they ask if there's a discord where they talk in, and nobody has the balls to say "you need to find it yourself"
Dal29015-Aug-21 04:33 AM
Yee there is that going on for sure, but within the circles I am aware of its another case of people within another group realizing their group is bad pulling in their friends
We have had a couple of mergers like that it's why it happens in sudden strange burst
Dal290
We have had a couple of mergers like that it's why it happens in sudden strange burst
Distoibed15-Aug-21 04:57 AM
thankfully he's being contained in your discord
Dal29015-Aug-21 04:58 AM
Yee he knows posh and the others, the webs of people confuse me
Distoibed15-Aug-21 05:00 AM
isn't it cus they mahjong
Pineapples15-Aug-21 05:17 AM
At least we have some other servers people can be in with their /vrg/ friends. People would probably invite their friends here more often and spoonfeed them more thoroughly if this was the only option.
/mmd/ MikuMikuDance #140 - "/e/ - Ecchi" is 4chan's imageboard for suggestive (ecchi) hentai images.
People keep posting invites to Ryder's discord on /e/
Pineapples15-Aug-21 07:43 AM
Weird place to post, it. Not as bad as certain other porn boards or Reddit. Can't imagine anyone joining would be much trouble.
Black Lily15-Aug-21 08:17 AM
I'd prefer if people didn't try to give him trouble
Pineapples15-Aug-21 08:35 AM
Yeah, me too.
All this kind of shit just trying to fuck with people is so stupid.
Eric15-Aug-21 03:23 PM
this is gonna make the vrc hate on mmd grow bigger
what fucking losers
Distoibed15-Aug-21 03:46 PM
some people just like starting shit
Krial15-Aug-21 04:58 PM
Fuck em. Can’t prevent it
No need to worry about it
Krial
And we rightfully tell him to eat shit.
Brainy15-Aug-21 05:03 PM
During last night's meetup, five long-time regulars complained that we expect far too much from new people joining at times. The biggest complaint was that our vetting process is colored largely by who is asking questions on a given day, which can be overly strict.
If I'm being honest, I only ever browse /vg/ and wonder if even I'd pass #welcome these days.
Not saying we're doing things wrong. Just that these were the attitudes expressed to me at the meetup and maybe we could do better.
I know the "spoonfeeding" concern makes consistency difficult.(edited)
Krial15-Aug-21 05:04 PM
We expect them to browse 4chan regularly, have a headset or plans to have one, and not schizo out over being asked 3 questions.
I disagree heavily with those regulars.
Brainy15-Aug-21 05:07 PM
I know those are our expectations, but the complaint was that some have been rejected over which boards they browse, or over arcane trivia.
Krial15-Aug-21 05:07 PM
I’d immediately ask them who was kicked out over what board they browse
I’ve literally never seen that
We did out several as not 4channers by asking em just basic shit about the board they browse
Like one time I caught some dude who said he browsed R9K and I asked him “name one defining feature of R9K” and he couldn’t
I was literally asking to just say the robot that the board is based around and he couldn’t do that. If regulars think that’s too much grilling they can kindly deal with it imo
Sounds like they’re mad their tda coomer buddies couldn’t get in(edited)
Brainy15-Aug-21 05:16 PM
Yeah it was specifically the complaint that their friends who came to meetups over X years were now being denied.
Although IIRC, we don't bar people from meetup based on Discord status.
Brainy
During last night's meetup, five long-time regulars complained that we expect far too much from new people joining at times. The biggest complaint was that our vetting process is colored largely by who is asking questions on a given day, which can be overly strict.
If I'm being honest, I only ever browse /vg/ and wonder if even I'd pass #welcome these days.
Not saying we're doing things wrong. Just that these were the attitudes expressed to me at the meetup and maybe we could do better.
I know the "spoonfeeding" concern makes consistency difficult. (edited)
Stannic15-Aug-21 05:19 PM
i disagree with how harsh vetting is compared to the first time around when we had anon27 who was really good on that and he even went as far as to figure out other shit about them before letting them
all they gotta do is state boards and make sure they aren't some manchild
at least they didn't get almost doxxed
Krial
Like one time I caught some dude who said he browsed R9K and I asked him “name one defining feature of R9K” and he couldn’t
Stannic15-Aug-21 05:20 PM
like this for example
lmao
r9k wojaks waow
or saying stacy or some other shit
new people can lurk more and interact in the thread before they can join the discord
there you go
not like they're missing out on anything in the discord(edited)
Brainy15-Aug-21 05:24 PM
Yeah it makes sense if someone cites a specific board they browse for them to also cite some basic thing about it.
ExecutiveJackbotBOT15-Aug-21 05:24 PM
I'm crying RN
I'm crying RN
Brainy15-Aug-21 05:25 PM
Yeah the kicking of people last night was what prompted this discussion.(edited)
Stannic15-Aug-21 05:25 PM
people back then would ask who they came in from and where
Brainy15-Aug-21 05:25 PM
Because there was someone in there who's been at several meetups and has allegedly been around for years who was kicked.
Stannic15-Aug-21 05:25 PM
if they say xano or something it's an instant kick because xano brings in a lot of people outside of the group and that's fine
lol who kicked last night then
or was instance master
Brainy15-Aug-21 05:28 PM
I dunno, TBH I wasn't even paying attention at the time.
But I could ask
Stannic15-Aug-21 05:28 PM
if it was ryder then yeah
if anything to circumvent the retarded catch-22 they can always ask in the thread, add someone who's usually the anchor and bam
which won't work too well if it's a weekend but hey it's the environment they made themselves
Krial15-Aug-21 05:31 PM
Most of the regular instance owners are here in Florida*(edited)
Tho I do kick white names most of the tkme if I’ve never seen them before I do try to ask ppl if they know them then ask who they are etc
Stannic15-Aug-21 05:32 PM
yeah asking and whatnot helps
all i know is that let them get filtered as I'd like less pieces of shits that makes kissy sound in the mic to another tda thot with a client so they can get through mutes and blocks
Distoibed15-Aug-21 05:34 PM
mara...
ExecutiveJackbotBOT15-Aug-21 05:38 PM
I'm crying RN
Distoibed15-Aug-21 05:38 PM
everybody dislikes that shit they do, but nobody hasthe balls to go up and tell them to fuck off
Black Lily15-Aug-21 05:45 PM
The people complaining about gatekeeping are the people that shouldn't have been let in
Brainy15-Aug-21 05:49 PM
Pretty sure it wasn't Ivy, it was two friends of people at the meetup. I honestly don't remember the names of the two who were votekicked
Distoibed15-Aug-21 05:49 PM
you can always refer them to the rydercord,dalcord or even the yukicord
if they need to be in this discord so much, they shouldn't be here
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Distoibed
everybody dislikes that shit they do, but nobody hasthe balls to go up and tell them to fuck off
Stannic15-Aug-21 05:51 PM
tell them to fuck off and others start coming over and defending them
and/or makes them want to do it harder
Distoibed15-Aug-21 05:52 PM
if people defend them I call them out for being retarded, if they do it harder I'll get a crasher
Stannic15-Aug-21 05:55 PM
oh they mean 2nd and 3rd discord?
Black Lily15-Aug-21 05:55 PM
Because they think that's enough proof that they're an anon
Dal29015-Aug-21 05:56 PM
I think the strange meme struggle that happened was a solid demonstration of people being tired of the brown people being allowed into their country
More people are sick of dealing with loosey let everyone in because we are a support group owo~ then those sick of accepting refugees and letting in everyone including their grandma
Stannic15-Aug-21 05:57 PM
compared to making a country, they can make their own groups and hang out in there
they can easily be the instance master
Black Lily15-Aug-21 05:57 PM
"If I lewd them that means they're /vrg/"
Stannic15-Aug-21 05:58 PM
Black Lily15-Aug-21 05:58 PM
They already do
Dal29015-Aug-21 05:58 PM
Halocord exist, I can balance some of them, there are enough side circles to help triple filter shit, things literally work better
Black Lily15-Aug-21 05:58 PM
Yawnsu's inner circle
Stannic15-Aug-21 05:58 PM
I don't see yawnsu or see them much to really know what the fuck goes on there
all i know is that i might have gotten muted by them because I was drunkenly singing over penumbra's corpse
Dal29015-Aug-21 05:59 PM
Black Lily15-Aug-21 06:00 PM
I remember yawnsu bitched a lot after I kicked yuto the first time
Stannic15-Aug-21 06:00 PM
whos yuto
Black Lily15-Aug-21 06:00 PM
Some twitter femboy they were trying to spoonfeed in
Stannic15-Aug-21 06:00 PM
the fuck
Black Lily15-Aug-21 06:17 PM
All but like two people have been here from year one
Stannic15-Aug-21 06:55 PM
haha halocord controls the server (:
wait what do you mean invalidum and onion isn't all of halocord?
Black Lily15-Aug-21 06:57 PM
And June
And some people consider Pineapples halocord
Perrine15-Aug-21 07:32 PM
tfw I was kicked the first time I tried to join
if you're vetting for realsies, it's about the only thing that needs to be treated as srs business in the server, and be as agnostic as possible
it's very easy to start gatekeeping for secret clubs and goodboy circles if you start deviating
That said, the requirement of "name some boards you use, and anything from the board that a user might know about it" is a pretty low bar
I mean, you can literally say "I use /v/ and /v/ doesn't play video games" and I feel like that'd be enough
Black Lily15-Aug-21 07:36 PM
Ye
It's essentially a three question quiz and the first question is writing your name(edited)
Perrine15-Aug-21 07:36 PM
Even just commenting on board quality would probably suffice
"/b/ is shit"
congrats you're hired
I think one potential problem is that it's an open-ended question, and people spend the entirety of their public education being trained to give the answer that's desired to a question
but that's just people at work
Dal29015-Aug-21 07:47 PM
The great debate has always been what do we consider 4chan, before it was nobody should define that, obviously we have too because not doing so makes it too open, we leave the door cracked but not wide open ez.
Perrine
tfw I was kicked the first time I tried to join
Stannic15-Aug-21 07:55 PM
was it because of ryder
i remember there being like two new guys at yuki's book club thing and they were welcome with a good ol
the shoot first ask questions later approach is fucking awful
Stannic
was it because of ryder
Perrine15-Aug-21 07:57 PM
I mean firs ttime joining the /vrg/ discord way back
Stannic15-Aug-21 07:57 PM
ooooh
i don't keep track of that
Perrine15-Aug-21 07:57 PM
I'm pretty old school vrchat despite my tiny hours played, so I was friends with people who have become problematic or memes since I started in 2017, and didn't know.
Worth mentioning since my computer is currently broken I don't have access to @Rasmus right now and might not be able to get back into the account later on
Brainy16-Aug-21 01:42 AM
Why?
"Might not be able to get back into the account later on," as in ever...?
Black Lily16-Aug-21 01:53 AM
Potentially
Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.
Distoibed16-Aug-21 01:55 AM
Makes me think about the people who want blacks/women representation at their job
Brainy
"Might not be able to get back into the account later on," as in ever...?
Black Lily16-Aug-21 01:56 AM
Shouldn't matter too much, I managed to slap the admin role on this account before my computer died and Hidden has his alt with admin as well
Just won't know if the discord gets reported again
Brainy16-Aug-21 02:05 AM
Yeah that was my concern, us not having access to an account that can receive notifications.
What a great system for communities BTW. Single point of failure for any moderation action notification.
Thank you Discord
Do you think you'll be able to recover the account at all?
Black Lily16-Aug-21 02:07 AM
idk why they don't make a private channel for notifications like that instead of dms
Brainy16-Aug-21 02:07 AM
No access to the e-mail it used?
Black Lily16-Aug-21 02:07 AM
I might be able to
Black Lily
idk why they don't make a private channel for notifications like that instead of dms
Brainy16-Aug-21 02:08 AM
Because that would be logical
Black Lily16-Aug-21 02:08 AM
I'm dumb and forgot what email I used and didn't write it down
Brainy16-Aug-21 02:08 AM
Could just try doing recovery on every e-mail until it goes through
Black Lily16-Aug-21 02:13 AM
I could try contacting discord about it but that could also just get the account banned for being an alt
Brainy16-Aug-21 02:13 AM
I don't think they ban for that
Unless it's connected to ban evasion
Have you been banned before previously on any accounts?
Black Lily16-Aug-21 02:14 AM
An alt was banned
Dal29016-Aug-21 02:15 AM
I write things down on a flipnote or whatever those are called
Best security is written form
Black Lily16-Aug-21 02:15 AM
I usually do but this is the one time I forgot
Distoibed16-Aug-21 02:24 AM
I Just use keepass
Brainy16-Aug-21 02:27 AM
Yeah I use KeePass too
🔇16-Aug-21 02:53 AM
Maybe you should transfer it back in that case if you do get access.
Mumu from NYC16-Aug-21 03:17 AM
i can't believe blacklily killed the discord
Black Lily16-Aug-21 03:18 AM
Nah, now it'll live forever
Eric16-Aug-21 03:18 AM
@🔇@Krial
i literally dont understand
how doesnt this pass as banning carl
Eric
@🔇@Krial
Krial16-Aug-21 03:22 AM
No, 2x votes from what I’ve heard.
Stannic16-Aug-21 03:22 AM
don't shove words in my mouth i fucking hate carl's ass thanks
🔇16-Aug-21 03:23 AM
@Eric see the ban cab post.
There was 0 controversy over that.
Banning is a 2/3rd of all mods/jannies agree.
Eric16-Aug-21 03:30 AM
i will not understand why the second most told fuck off person is back in the server but whatever
i already figured out why one of the vote nos was casted so im just gonna leave it
im gonna keep saying, idk how you keep friending the worst people possible krial
i wouldnt be surprised if you ended up knowing jelly in a few months
Distoibed16-Aug-21 04:58 AM
Y-yeah krial
Why'd you friend jelly past 2018 hahahaha...
Krial16-Aug-21 05:13 AM
Nah I honestly don’t like jelly or kenji
Brainy16-Aug-21 05:57 AM
IIRC the topic of banning Carl came up twice
At first I believe the vote failed too?
Black Lily
I'm dumb and forgot what email I used and didn't write it down
Perrine16-Aug-21 10:19 AM
Use password managers for everything
Dal29016-Aug-21 10:34 AM
I just tabbed back and realized, yeah we voted on that and apparently had a majority, I call horse shit on the lets be squishy nice nice. I don't remember us implementing a 2/3rds majority vote system or seeing it like that, we agreed on majority.(edited)
I understand it is controversial but I am going to say foot down line in the spaghetti, majority ++ do not understand situations and demanding they do is retarded(edited)
We have had multiple situations of hot people targeting or flying under the radar precisely because they know they can cheese the system if they avoid sperging around certain people to "change the majority's view"
It ends up becoming a moderation dance and allowing issues to fester for too long, I don't agree with us pulling the 2/3 shit ouf of our collective ass because we don't want to be mean, or people in moderation "don't see the issue" despite a clear and present issue.
Dal29016-Aug-21 10:46 AM
@Krial@🔇 End of the day, this kind of shit will not work because how the hell do they manage to personally piss off a guy who likes everyone and a mute people love, this cannot function like that.
June16-Aug-21 10:56 AM
The hell is going on
Dal29016-Aug-21 10:57 AM
They let carl in despite us having a majority vote for ban him
I just tabbed in and realized that lol
Black Lily
And June
June16-Aug-21 10:58 AM
I'm not halo cord
Dal29016-Aug-21 10:58 AM
But yeah that is some bullshit, I don't agree with overruling the votes or moving the bar, we agreed on majority and I have had to eat shit on things I disagreed with.
Dal290
@Krial@🔇 End of the day, this kind of shit will not work because how the hell do they manage to personally piss off a guy who likes everyone and a mute people love, this cannot function like that.
One sec. I grabbed some screenshots of our convo about votes.
June16-Aug-21 11:02 AM
Ty
Krial16-Aug-21 11:02 AM
And percentages etc
Lemme make em a bit more legible rq.
June16-Aug-21 11:02 AM
Oh I see
Much lower than the others
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<316-Aug-21 11:03 AM
It was majority vote
June16-Aug-21 11:03 AM
We were +2 janies
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<316-Aug-21 11:03 AM
Idk y its being changed to 2/3 now
Krial16-Aug-21 11:03 AM
2/3rds was never agreed on.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<316-Aug-21 11:04 AM
It was simple majority
And we have that
Krial16-Aug-21 11:04 AM
60% was thrown around. And we never came to a general consensus it looks like.
Other than lily saying if it’s close. We talk about.
Dal29016-Aug-21 11:04 AM
I think on the issue of banning, general misunderstanding or lack of information is going to be a problem
Krial16-Aug-21 11:04 AM
The other thing that matters especially here, is do we consider votes of people no longer staff.
June16-Aug-21 11:04 AM
11-7 is pretty close
Krial16-Aug-21 11:04 AM
If so, it’s 9/7.
Dal29016-Aug-21 11:05 AM
We can't just let a bunch of people deal with bullshit because "jannie X never saw him hurt a fly"
Krial16-Aug-21 11:05 AM
Nah Dal I completely agree.
June16-Aug-21 11:05 AM
I agree
Dal29016-Aug-21 11:05 AM
Or better yet "I never talk to them or know them"
June16-Aug-21 11:05 AM
Let me dm him
Krial16-Aug-21 11:05 AM
I actually forgot that we held a vote to ban him, if I recall right it was never actually implemented when we voted in the first place.
I can’t remember if he left, or we kicked him. Pretty sure we left it alone.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<316-Aug-21 11:06 AM
He left after timeout
Dal29016-Aug-21 11:06 AM
He left in a fit because he got modded in
Krial16-Aug-21 11:06 AM
But I’ll do research and find out more.
Oh I remember why he left now yeah.
Dal29016-Aug-21 11:06 AM
So we discussed keeping him out because he doesn't learn and shits too much
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<316-Aug-21 11:06 AM
Which is evasion
Carl doesn't add anything
Krial16-Aug-21 11:07 AM
If I recall right, there were jokes about adding to his timeout for every time he posted in meltyzone, then he left and didn’t come back.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<316-Aug-21 11:07 AM
And all he does is cause problems
Krial16-Aug-21 11:07 AM
One moment. Let me find out.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<316-Aug-21 11:07 AM
No reason to keep him here
Krial16-Aug-21 11:10 AM
Looks like the original vote was kick Carl, then we edited to ban Carl with the same reactions, then talked about putting him in timeout repeatedly
Don’t see any actual delivering of either punishment other than putting him in timeout for the one sperg out moment in NSFW which has no rules to begin with
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<316-Aug-21 11:11 AM
The changes was made before people actually voted
Krial
Don’t see any actual delivering of either punishment other than putting him in timeout for the one sperg out moment in NSFW which has no rules to begin with
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<316-Aug-21 11:13 AM
He doesn't really break rules he just shuts down actual conversation in multiple channels at one time with his unending retard speak
Dal29016-Aug-21 11:17 AM
I am also for the sentiment that people who vomit off topic garbage or openly shitpost the thread being patted on the back is a bad
June16-Aug-21 11:17 AM
Okay Carl has been notified
He's pissed
Krial16-Aug-21 11:18 AM
Oh I’m sure. This ones on me for completely forgetting about the vote and not double checking on it.
June16-Aug-21 11:19 AM
Told him how I understand his been reasoning, who's pushing for it
His pov is that it's a personal vendetta and really weak
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<316-Aug-21 11:20 AM
I dont even hate him i just think he shits up the sever
Dal29016-Aug-21 11:21 AM
Same deal, I don't mind him, but I can't deny the effect he has on others and how many openly tell him to fuck off
Distoibed16-Aug-21 11:21 AM
Tbh, with the hate he's been getting from beef and stannic, it's not that strange to think its a personal vendetta
June16-Aug-21 11:21 AM
Mute and move on
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<316-Aug-21 11:22 AM
The problem is even though he is not b8ing intentionally a lot of people fall for it instead of ignoring it
And it derails everything in stupid arguments
Dal29016-Aug-21 11:22 AM
Man I remember the last time I went to the IRC to complain about the shitposting in the thread
"Ignore and report"
I get it, I do it, but that doesn't stop the 20 other people who smile devilishly and go yes I think so and so didn't do X or did Y
June16-Aug-21 11:25 AM
Willing to make a deal?
Dal29016-Aug-21 11:25 AM
>will the autist who floods three threads and a discord stop talking because he promised
Krial16-Aug-21 11:26 AM
I told him it was my fault.
Dal29016-Aug-21 11:26 AM
We do, evading too many times.
June16-Aug-21 11:26 AM
It gives you absolute reason to ban if he breaks his promise
Krial16-Aug-21 11:26 AM
And to blame me for that one.
Dal29016-Aug-21 11:26 AM
He considers each bap a vacation doesn't learn anything and just comes back to repeat the same thing
Deflects the vomit to our threads
June16-Aug-21 11:27 AM
Yes but we only control the discord
Dal29016-Aug-21 11:28 AM
So we should completely ignore people ripping ass in the thread?
June16-Aug-21 11:28 AM
No, but nothing we do here will positively effect that
We can only make it worse as side effects
Dal29016-Aug-21 11:30 AM
Regardless, negotiating with people who don't learn and haven't changed for shit isn't my forte and I strongly advocate the urge to purge
He shits everywhere up too much, this place included, least we can keep it clean
June16-Aug-21 11:32 AM
It's the best way to get a absolute ban which is clearly what you want
Dal29016-Aug-21 11:32 AM
Why make it a song and dance, he already evaded past timeouts and took advantage of drunken IRL business
June16-Aug-21 11:33 AM
Because not everyone is in agreement
We can do that vote again if you would like
Dal29016-Aug-21 11:33 AM
Revote to decide the first vote again?
June16-Aug-21 11:35 AM
@mod@here
Dal29016-Aug-21 11:35 AM
We just went over it would need to be 9/7 to even be 2/3rds
June16-Aug-21 11:35 AM
Can't ping Janie
Can you
Distoibed16-Aug-21 11:35 AM
@jannie
June16-Aug-21 11:35 AM
Go vote
Dal29016-Aug-21 11:36 AM
Its 11/7, again, not liking the goalpost moving
June16-Aug-21 11:36 AM
Ty
Azuth16-Aug-21 11:36 AM
making me do mod shit on vacation smh
tapping two whole buttons
Dal29016-Aug-21 11:37 AM
Cool so we are at the stage of revoting if we don't like the first results after moving the goalpost twice
Perrine16-Aug-21 11:38 AM
I'm not aware of a history that deserves a ban at this stage
Dal290
Or better yet "I never talk to them or know them"
Dal29016-Aug-21 11:38 AM
Just gunna
Azuth16-Aug-21 11:38 AM
if his only problem is spamming inane bullshit, let's just make a role that slowmodes him
Perrine16-Aug-21 11:38 AM
If he comes back and does ban worthy shit, you can ban him later
Not a problem
Dal29016-Aug-21 11:39 AM
Evasion and flooding our thread will garbage is a pretty high crime considering we have had to do this song and dance already multiple times
Moving the hoop higher because the first results were not tasty enough doesn't go well with me
Perrine16-Aug-21 11:40 AM
Discord isn't the thread. You'd need some sort of good justification for thread behavior to result in a ban from the server, and be able to prove the posts are him
Dal29016-Aug-21 11:41 AM
I don't think you understand
I am livid that we voted, already decided this and it even complied with the goalpost that was moved
We are doing more work, I am talking about this more because of that
Distoibed16-Aug-21 11:42 AM
You could always take a stance, tell us to fuck off with revoting and do the honours yourself
Dal29016-Aug-21 11:42 AM
No that is stupid, it will be a problem if we revote on decided matters
Or move the goalpost
Dal290
I am livid that we voted, already decided this and it even complied with the goalpost that was moved
I thought we had a discussion on what the vote needed to be
Dal29016-Aug-21 11:47 AM
I don't agree with revoting on already voted on matters, you are asking me to put in double the work to explain it for all of those "who never saw him sneeze wrong" or all that.
I already argued about it back then, here I am again.
Perrine16-Aug-21 11:58 AM
I agree in principle. No double Jeopardy
Azuth
if his only problem is spamming inane bullshit, let's just make a role that slowmodes him
Stannic16-Aug-21 12:11 PM
which he'll get angry, say he's being oppressed. go to the thread and vent again
idk why we want his ass back in so hard when there were two events already in the span of this discord's short life time
and 'we' is being used very loosely here
a lot of this dumb shit can be circumvented if we leave him alone either out or inside the discord and there's a better chance he has no melties if he is out of the discord
fuck inclusivity for channers if they can't fucking read the room
Dal29016-Aug-21 12:14 PM
I'll quote the /ss13/ thing again since I am apparently a broken record, when they encountered the infamous jelly they heard who he was and banned him up and down and right up into the sun.
Stannic16-Aug-21 12:14 PM
they should fuck off to r9k or some shit reddit that aligns with their schizo tier shit
Dal29016-Aug-21 12:14 PM
You tell me which thread gets that shit because "we need to give them a chance"
not them
Brainy16-Aug-21 04:04 PM
Catching up reading this now
I just woke up here
Brainy16-Aug-21 04:11 PM
So did we ban him or are we still voting?
Also what has Carl done outside of being obnoxious and making schizo posts?
Has there been any change in the situation, like him harassing people?
Dal290
I am also for the sentiment that people who vomit off topic garbage or openly shitpost the thread being patted on the back is a bad
Brainy16-Aug-21 04:13 PM
I agree that it's bad, but is it bannable?
Do you ordinarily ban people for that around here?
Dal290
Why make it a song and dance, he already evaded past timeouts and took advantage of drunken IRL business
Brainy16-Aug-21 04:16 PM
Any details on this (evasion of Timeout)? Are you referring to when he left the server after receiving a Timeout to spare us his schizo posting over the weekend?
June
His pov is that it's a personal vendetta and really weak
Stannic16-Aug-21 04:30 PM
damn if i got a persona vendetta against him then he must have slighted me in some way shape or form
or that i'm tired of reading his fucking ramblings shitting up the thread and discord and hope he never comes back
if he got a tripcode for me to filter his ass then i wouldn't hate him as much
Brainy16-Aug-21 04:33 PM
Stannic16-Aug-21 04:37 PM
the hatred for him stems from him shitting up threads with these fucking stupid ramblings of his and people not being able to ignore him that it goes longer and longer and not a personal vendetta that he did something to me
he's way far up in his ass to think that way
if i wanted to read any of that dumb shit i'd go to /lit/ liberal and karl marx thread instead
but i can imagine he didn't want to stay there and talk about it because they're just as bad as him
Brainy16-Aug-21 04:39 PM
I suggested this many times before regarding users who are only guilty of being "obnoxious" and nothing else.
Come up with an appropriate punishment and enforce it consistently, but progressively. Inform the user in every instance.
IE, first timeout is 24 hours, second is a few days, third is one week. Eventually people will get the hint.
I don't think it's fair to have a laissez faire policy of, "allow people to be schizo," then go from timing them out once, to immediately permabanning them.
No matter how tired we are of people's shit, we should be fair and consistent with how we moderate them, and that should go double for people who's only offense is having obnoxious views / postings.
the hatred for him stems from him shitting up threads with these fucking stupid ramblings
What's stopping us from just timing him out to where he can't post in any of those channels, or any channels, period? As the punishment gets progressively longer, we're dealing with him less while he learns.(edited)
Stannic16-Aug-21 04:43 PM
he will then claim about being oppressed again and quit and go to the thread and shit it up
and leave
and the cycle starts again
Brainy16-Aug-21 04:44 PM
June's suggestion is literally what I've been suggesting since day one with these types of situations. Because otherwise we're coming up with a policy of nuking a single user based on a conflict of personality that finally "gets" to you. The only moderation history against Carl on this (new) server IIRC is maybe a Timetout or two. No other meaningful communication or punitive actions to change their behavior, or teach them to self-regulate.(edited)
Stannic16-Aug-21 04:44 PM
that's fair i mean i can consider it putting my bias aside
he's only obnoxious
if he doesn't act up and actually improves then props to him
and i think it's good to have a ladder punishment than outright wiping them out that dal suggested but only for things like this
things like mamamad or constant shit stirrers in other communities such as jelly should be wiped out with impunity
they might be the definition of 4chan but social outcasts also have their own little fucking circles and the outcasts of outcasts such as sink posters shouldn't be lumped in with random posters on /b/ and it's not a blanket over everyone(edited)
Brainy16-Aug-21 04:55 PM
I brought up Biggus in the past because he's a user who can also be obnoxious, which brought him into conflict with Comfy, who insisted that we permaban Biggus. Instead, we warned Biggus and resolved the situation. If the situation were to happen again, I'd suggest a punitive action, working up to a permaban if necessary. But never just an immediate permaban for something as harmless as, "they're a troll" or "they're obnoxious."
I'm not saying people need 3490536975 warnings or punitive actions before being permabanned. Just that any punitive action (or sequence of them) should fit the nature of the offense.
The user should also be sufficiently informed so they have a chance to change their behavior or self-regulate (such as in Biggus' case).
Otherwise we come off as wildly bipolar and inconsistent with our moderation actions, influenced by our opinions of a user on a given day. It's not a good look, nor is it fair to the community.
Stannic16-Aug-21 04:56 PM
yeah i agree with the bipolar part and have been wondering how to deal with that
but i'mma still state my opinions of the person and how i feel about them because i absolutely fucking hate their guts still
or we can make it like xqc chat and ban people based on shit dono messages and whatever game he's playing and getting angry that night
but nah whatever happened to "don't be a cunt"
if they're being a cunt then give them the ladder steps of timeout to ban
Brainy16-Aug-21 04:58 PM
I mean your opinion about them is relevant if it's colored by a history with the user, since history is relevant. I'm just saying we shouldn't let our opinion alone influence our decisions. We should try to develop a loose set of guidelines so we can at least try to be consistent and it should involve some communication with the user, even if it's just to say, "we timed you out for X thing." That's just my opinion.(edited)
Stannic16-Aug-21 04:59 PM
so if they're being cunts then give them a time out if users start reporting and complainning
and of course case by case
biggus and comfy were both being assholes to each other but comfy taking it further than him
imo if anything lets use the ladder thing and slowly seep it in until people are aware that it's one of those unspoken rules and it'll let them loosely know the boundaries
since placing in rules and stating it will have people who wants to challenge it
and no rules means it's some wild west nightmare
Brainy16-Aug-21 05:05 PM
I'd say it depends on what they're doing.
Using Carl, Biggus, and Eva as examples...
Biggus was trolling, which antagonized Comfy, resulting in both users fighting.
I'd say Biggus was arguably a worse situation than Carl, because it involved direct confrontation and insults between two users.
However, Biggus and Comfy were essentially "trash talking" each other, and due to how the situation evolved organically, Biggus wasn't exactly directly at fault for the resulting confrontation.
The situation with Eva was different. Eva was specifically targeting a user for harassment and to my understanding they were circumventing a punitive action to further continue the harassment.
I think it would be unfair to treat all of the above examples with a nuke.
Stannic16-Aug-21 05:05 PM
Yeah should be ladder and not a nuke
and with Carl too who should be given the ladder plan then
he's only obnoxious and lets assign a tard wrangler to him that plays the devil and angel then
then make it a vrchat event where we have a prosecutor and defendant and a judge to make the decision
and let the judge decide and ignore all the peanut gallery
Brainy16-Aug-21 05:11 PM
So using those three cases, I'd summarize them (just for example):
Carl
Obnoxious posting without clear/obvious/reasonable intent of antagonizing others.
Biggus
Obnoxious posting with clear/obvious/reasonable intent of antagonizing others.
Eva
Harassing behavior targeting another user, with clear/obvious/reasonable intent to harass.
Stannic16-Aug-21 05:12 PM
Carl isn't antagonizing he just derails shit(edited)
the only time i've seen him antagonized was with beef
Brainy16-Aug-21 05:12 PM
That's why I say, without clear/obvious/reasonable intent.
Stannic16-Aug-21 05:12 PM
oh
add /any in there too
or /no
Brainy16-Aug-21 05:13 PM
Versus Biggus, where it was with clear/obvious/reasonable intent.
Stannic16-Aug-21 05:13 PM
sometimes it's just obnoxious to see a topic swerve to the way side
but that alone shouldn't land him a kick anyways
so it's irrelevant
or a time out or whatever
Brainy16-Aug-21 05:15 PM
The three elements I'm looking for in these three cases:
1.) The type of behavior (obnoxious, trolling, harassing)
2.) Intent (whether the outcome was clear and deliberate)
3.) Targeted (whether it's targeting another user specifically)
That's what I'm outlining in those three examples.
Stannic16-Aug-21 05:15 PM
Oh
Brainy16-Aug-21 05:16 PM
Carl is not clearly/obviously/reasonably doing this to antagonize others. There's no malicious intent, in other words.
Stannic16-Aug-21 05:16 PM
put that first before outlining the examples :V
therefore no t/o
Brainy16-Aug-21 05:16 PM
Biggus was more serious because he was seeking to get a reaction out of others and antagonize them.
Stannic16-Aug-21 05:17 PM
should this also rely on people reporting it too
Brainy16-Aug-21 05:17 PM
Eva was clearly/obviously engaging in harassment and this harassment was clearly/obviously targeted towards a specific person. That makes it targeted harassment.(edited)
Stannic16-Aug-21 05:17 PM
because sometimes someone can handle being trolled and react better than others
and won't report vs someone who didn't like the trolling attempt/trolling done to them
Brainy16-Aug-21 05:18 PM
I mean if someone reports a user, it's on us to moderate them, however we deem appropriate for the situation. I think the way Pineapples handled the situation with Biggus made sense.
Comfy wasn't too happy with it. But I still agree with how it was handled.
Stannic16-Aug-21 05:19 PM
pineapples is very unbiased for that and that's good
fuck comfy's feelings about it
use the block feature
Brainy16-Aug-21 05:20 PM
That's what I'm trying to get at here. Ultimately we should be encouraging people to use block if they don't like someone.
Stannic16-Aug-21 05:20 PM
there's some odd stigma about using that feature
vs on 4chan people using filters to not read dumb shit
Brainy16-Aug-21 05:20 PM
The situation with Carl is a bit unique. If you guys feel he's really derailing discussion to the point of being a nuisance, then we could tell him he's going off-topic in discussions, and enforce Timeouts on that basis that get progressively longer, until he learns.
Stannic16-Aug-21 05:20 PM
unless they don't use the filter then they just love reading garbage and content
depends on what he's derailing into also
Brainy16-Aug-21 05:21 PM
He's no different than any other shitter on any other Discord in that respect, apart from sometimes espousing bad takes or bad views.
Stannic16-Aug-21 05:21 PM
the time beef timed him out was about him going on another tangent based on racism and blacks and white
and it was another "here we fucking go again" with another eye roll that does a 720 degree spin that i'll see my stems
maybe we should warn and time out fucking idiots that wants to instigate him outside of "no one cares" or "fuck off carl"
and egging him on into his soliloquy
because i remember that krial and asylum said that if you tell him to shut it about it then he will
Nicely of course but i have no capacity for kindness for a schizo like him
But I'll take shutting down the entire convo over another shitstorm like this
because if he wants to go off on a tangent and people egg him on then no one deserves a discussion or a good time
and reinforces that people should tell him to be quiet rather than start some shitflinging instead
so a compromise would be telling him to fuck off, be quiet, or get people to block him and don't encourage him further for shitflinging or get warned, timed out, and have the convo defused because fuck coming back to this point again(edited)
Haha I just woke up at 5pm and laid in bed I stayed up way too late last night
Black Lily16-Aug-21 08:51 PM
Same but in a better timezone
Dal29016-Aug-21 08:51 PM
Basically this place has endured many shitlogs floating in the pool and waiting until it starts to stink has proven to create many more problems and lose people's faith then just scooping the shit out
Do you at any point think Carl will change, and do we need to fabricate a reason that will piss him off just as much as just pulling the trigger
I don't agree with lying to people, or searching for bullshit reasons or any of that, the fact is people don't like him because he shits up channels, simple as
We are going to pull the trigger either now, or later, there is a reason people didn't call for my head when I blasted bullshit past a whisper of "that was mean", people want shitters out of their discord.
Basically I am going to get dinner, but I am not going to lie down on the subject of vote until we get a result that taste better, its waiting for people to forget the issues and hoping people bend the second time around.
Brainy
Carl is not clearly/obviously/reasonably doing this to antagonize others. There's no malicious intent, in other words.
Dal29016-Aug-21 09:06 PM
Before I scadoodle for a sec I would like to direct you to actually read the channels he goes off in, he switches his argument entirely for the sake of extending it and ignoring how you are killing the room is malicious in my opinion.
Meeps16-Aug-21 09:09 PM
isn't that what you did with eva? you had me do a revote because you didn't like the wording
even though it was the same wording as all of the other votes, including one you put up
but regardless, the whole point of voting is to go with what wins. if it wins, it wins
June16-Aug-21 09:10 PM
Man you really still on this
Dal29016-Aug-21 09:29 PM
I was confused by the question and asked about it within the same day. Redoing a vote on something that was heavily discussed, month, two months ago is bs
All my words were apparently for nothing and I wasted my time arguing a subject I don't even care much on
I'd also like to call to attention that people at the irl meet are going to glance, pick one, and swoos out, shit ain't fair.
Meeps
but regardless, the whole point of voting is to go with what wins. if it wins, it wins
Dal29016-Aug-21 09:49 PM
Yeah, the whole point was it already won
We are redoing it with softer memories and people trying to get away from discussing or touching the subject because they are rightfully on vacation while some of them have had to lock their phones away due to kicking/banning gags
I don't think it is the time to discuss it, we should shelve the subject until people are done being busy, my beef is I am in a spot where I either acknowledge the original vote, or the one that was done spur of the moment quick vote again then fuck off in a compromised time.
June16-Aug-21 10:05 PM
It doesn't matter how people vote, as long as the gun isn't too their heads
We also don't have a set verdict time on votes
It's just random when people act on them
You also clearly want to push and act on this
Dal29016-Aug-21 10:06 PM
Just feel like this structure is floppy, and yeah I know, I want to, but I am respecting everyone's wishes
June16-Aug-21 10:06 PM
Which is what we are talking about irl where you can't see it
Dal29016-Aug-21 10:06 PM
But why talk about it IRL you guys are on vacation
How can I take part in that discussion either
June16-Aug-21 10:06 PM
Because your posting A LOT
So we had to respond when one person got frustrated with it and mentioned it(edited)
Today was the first day I looked at this discord
Dal29016-Aug-21 10:07 PM
In the future, can we just avoid pulling decisions during IRL meets or having closed door meetings
June16-Aug-21 10:08 PM
Sure, but those tend to happen because we're physically next to each other on a bus
Its not intentional
Dal29016-Aug-21 10:08 PM
Well a discussion happened that swayed the vote and signed people up for more bullshit after we already voted on it, you can understand why I am a bit miffed.
June16-Aug-21 10:08 PM
Because you were not in it
I get that
Dal29016-Aug-21 10:09 PM
I'm going to agree do what what I said, lets shelve the subject until a later time
June16-Aug-21 10:09 PM
We need a clear escalation ramp going forward like rainy keeps asking for
Dal29016-Aug-21 10:09 PM
I don't want to expend your time June you work hard enough and need some time away from this bs
June16-Aug-21 10:10 PM
And I really wish you would let Carl be the first, past transgressions aside(edited)
I know you already have him in your shit list, but that makes me sway towards personal bias
Dal29016-Aug-21 10:11 PM
It has nothing to do with bias
June16-Aug-21 10:11 PM
More people need to just block him like I did 6+ months ago
Dal29016-Aug-21 10:11 PM
My bias would be let this discord burn and enjoy my own circlejerk
June16-Aug-21 10:11 PM
Yes, it does a little
You need to be level headed and unbiased
Dal29016-Aug-21 10:12 PM
We need more irrational fuck this shit because being too level headed and fair fucked us over
June16-Aug-21 10:12 PM
You've talked about how we need to act now, and how we shouldn't because he will just shit up our thread. How do we navigate that
No, having shit weak willed leaders did
It has nothing to do with being fair
Dal29016-Aug-21 10:13 PM
If we had a clear cut easy system of kicking troublemakers we would have less of them around to flood our thread with literal shit
June16-Aug-21 10:13 PM
You can be fair and firm
Yes.
Draft the rules
Dal29016-Aug-21 10:13 PM
Most servers just ban and let them come back in a year
June16-Aug-21 10:13 PM
We have to have the constitution before we can act like a government
Dal29016-Aug-21 10:14 PM
Why do we need all of that song and dance when we can just discuss how much volumetric shit somebody is putting out and go yeah ban them
We are under 1000 people we don't need anything like that
June16-Aug-21 10:14 PM
Because it isn't a clear cut y/n in this case
Look at the first vote and current ones
That's not a no brainer
Dal29016-Aug-21 10:15 PM
No soft people are arguing we need to not be mean when some of these people needed to be told no more when they were kids, no amount of rules, talk, or effort can install common sense or a willingness to not step on toes
Its putting up a bunch of dumb hoops for nothing
June16-Aug-21 10:16 PM
I don't agree at all
Dal29016-Aug-21 10:16 PM
Do you see carl not fucking up in a months time
June16-Aug-21 10:16 PM
You clearly want things ran differently than I do
I do see him overstepping yes
But that is for future him
Dal29016-Aug-21 10:16 PM
Why create an absurd structure just to accomplish the same result
June16-Aug-21 10:16 PM
Who will get banned if he does
Because it gives him a fair chance
And any future others
Dal29016-Aug-21 10:17 PM
Giving chances and signing this place up to act like rehab is what made it shit and swelled to maximum overrefugee
I don't like any steps in the same direction and forgive me for not considering it a good idea
June16-Aug-21 10:18 PM
I wasn't here to help with that and I'm sorry
Dal29016-Aug-21 10:19 PM
It's fine, its just shit is frustrating, I never personally talked to CAB or EVA past a talk or two, I don't personally see the issues you guys claim to have
I trust that the reasons and your hours of discussing it meant something and that there is obviously some kind of issue somewhere
In the interest of speaking on behalf of telling people to calm down, block troublemakers, resolving things discretely or patching up bullshit, I push really hard for not signing us collectively up, for more bullshit.
Us as in mods and the peeps of /vrg/, pretty much everyone, especially those that are too kind to cut bait when somebody like lunatheblue comes around to emotionally manipulate people.
Brainy16-Aug-21 10:35 PM
I'd just go with a loose guideline of three points of identification.
Just identifying the "problem" goes a long way in us discussing the "solution".
1.) BehaviorOff-topic rambling, obscene images, harassing behavior, etc.2.) IntentClearly deliberate and/or obvious outcome.3.) TargetingClearly targeting a person or identifiable group (like a couple or clique).Using the past 3 cases as examples...Carl
1.) Going on another off-topic rant that no-one gives a shit about
2.) Not clearly malicious
3.) Not clearly targeted
Biggus
1.) Shitposting insulting images/remarks to get a rise out of people
2.) Clearly malicious (antagonistic)
3.) Not clearly targeted (in my opinion)
Eva
1.) Harassing someone, getting blocked, then getting others to forward harassing messages
2.) Clearly malicious (harassing)
3.) Clearly targeted
How do we want to approach punitive action in these three scenarios?
I think we can all agree the situation with Eva is more egregious than the situation with Carl.
So let's start with what we think is the best procedure in the less serious case of Carl.
It could be something like this:
Excessive Shitposting Nobody Gives A Shit About
- Warning and/or discretionary Timeout (3 hours)
- Timeout (24 hours)
- Timeout (3 days)
- Timeout (7 days)
- Timeout (30 days)
At this point, Carl has effectively moderated himself, due to the punitive action scaling.
Even if we add a forgiving "decay" for Carl-tier Shitposting infractions (let's say two months), it adds up again fairly quickly.
The net result would be periods of 41 days where Carl can't post unless his behavior changes.
Meanwhile, Carl can still read/react to posts, or possibly even post in channels we allow, like NSFW or something.
Brainy
I'd just go with a loose guideline of three points of identification.
Just identifying the "problem" goes a long way in us discussing the "solution".
1.) BehaviorOff-topic rambling, obscene images, harassing behavior, etc.2.) IntentClearly deliberate and/or obvious outcome.3.) TargetingClearly targeting a person or identifiable group (like a couple or clique).Using the past 3 cases as examples...Carl
1.) Going on another off-topic rant that no-one gives a shit about
2.) Not clearly malicious
3.) Not clearly targeted
Biggus
1.) Shitposting insulting images/remarks to get a rise out of people
2.) Clearly malicious (antagonistic)
3.) Not clearly targeted (in my opinion)
Eva
1.) Harassing someone, getting blocked, then getting others to forward harassing messages
2.) Clearly malicious (harassing)
3.) Clearly targeted
How do we want to approach punitive action in these three scenarios?
I think we can all agree the situation with Eva is more egregious than the situation with Carl.
So let's start with what we think is the best procedure in the less serious case of Carl.
It could be something like this:
Excessive Shitposting Nobody Gives A Shit About
- Warning and/or discretionary Timeout (3 hours)
- Timeout (24 hours)
- Timeout (3 days)
- Timeout (7 days)
- Timeout (30 days)
At this point, Carl has effectively moderated himself, due to the punitive action scaling.
Even if we add a forgiving "decay" for Carl-tier Shitposting infractions (let's say two months), it adds up again fairly quickly.
The net result would be periods of 41 days where Carl can't post unless his behavior changes.
Meanwhile, Carl can still read/react to posts, or possibly even post in channels we allow, like NSFW or something.
Dal29016-Aug-21 10:38 PM
Jesus christ this is what I am talking about, this system is way too convoluted
Brainy16-Aug-21 10:38 PM
It's literally look at 3 things...
Dal29016-Aug-21 10:39 PM
I'll play you game fucker, 3 is an issue
The escelation is too lenient
Brainy16-Aug-21 10:39 PM
I'm citing 3 separate cases because the circumstances were less or more egregious in all 3.
All I'm saying is we should be able to look at a case, identify these 3 things, and decide from there the best way to handle those cases.
Dal29016-Aug-21 10:39 PM
3 targetting is something we literally encourage with things like the melty zone, banting is important to filtering around here
The issue with all of this, it boils down to charisma, we implement this kind of crap, we risk filtering the fun
People who aren't autistic can slip past this, or in the case of guidelines dance around it
Brainy16-Aug-21 10:45 PM
Yes, it's deliberately forgiving in the Carl example because his behavior represents the most common type of user infraction, that being a user going off-topic, or derailing discussion. Ordinarily, this is just a matter of warning a person to stay on topic, or risk a Timeout.
The three elements of identification are important here because if there's no malicious intent and nothing harassing about the behavior, then all they're doing is being a shitter. Everyone will rant, ramble, go off-topic, or have a "melty" from time-to-time. I think it's important to come up with a consistent way of moderating this fairly and in as forgiving a way as possible when it doesn't involve any other bad factors like antagonistic behavior, malicious intent, or harassment.
Dal29016-Aug-21 10:45 PM
Not sure if you are typing up a storm or rewording, but yeah please discuss instead of throwing out walls dude, and alright, I'll read all of that shit I guess
Brainy16-Aug-21 10:46 PM
I'm just trying to come up with a plan of action and process that is easy to understand for us and users.
Dal29016-Aug-21 10:47 PM
Speaking of that, I am not trying to be mean or harsh, but I don't feel like reviewing legal documents when we are barely discussing the simple idea of how we count infractions and all that.
I am sorry I am hard worded with you Rainy, but I have a fire about this kind of business and I can't hold back when I see something I view as wrong.
Since we are apparently apologizing and trying to not gut each other and stuff around here
Brainy16-Aug-21 10:49 PM
That's fine, but I don't consider knee-jerk reactions to situations to be a sound moderation policy or solution to these problems.
Dal29016-Aug-21 10:50 PM
You would be surprised how much can get done when you let a place be gray instead of writing it down as black and white
Brainy16-Aug-21 10:53 PM
I think it's been demonstrated to me enough with minors evading to get back here, Dank abusing Timeouts against people in political debates, and random changes to channel categorization and user responses to it. I think all of that is our failure (even in the situation with Dank), in part due to a lack of clear guidelines or procedures to follow, and that we can do a lot to improve on it together. But just shutting down all discussion in every attempt at discussion isn't solving anything.
Dal29016-Aug-21 10:53 PM
Haha man I wish you were around years ago
We write down rules, we'll ignore them
Who can and will enforce it
Brainy16-Aug-21 10:54 PM
I don't care about years ago, I only care about the now. I feel like all the dwelling on years ago is casting a shadow over any productive discussion in the here and now to address present problems we've been facing. I'm not saying it can't be relevant. But again, shutting down any and all discussion, at every attempt to have a discussion, is in no way productive or problem solving.
Dal29016-Aug-21 10:54 PM
I am saying, basically
You are expecting too much from a pool of people who have done %100 more then just what you have seen
June
I wasn't here to help with that and I'm sorry
Stannic16-Aug-21 10:55 PM
MURDER
Dal29016-Aug-21 10:55 PM
You can see just now, span what you saw back and imagine how hard it has been to get some semblance of shit done around here
Brainy16-Aug-21 10:55 PM
Rules are only so good as they are enforced, but having no clear guidelines on even identifying when there is a violation, or how, can make it problematic to enforce anything with consistency.
Dal29016-Aug-21 10:56 PM
Exactly, and who will enforce the guidelines
The only, and only thing I can agree on is consistency might be good
Brainy16-Aug-21 10:57 PM
We will as a team once we actually have consensus on what they are and work on them together.
Krial16-Aug-21 10:57 PM
Wouldn’t it be mods in that case?
Get everyone on board, hold mods accountable for enforcement.
Dal29016-Aug-21 10:57 PM
Mods are people, people can choose what they can and can't enforce
It all ends up being the same shit anyway
People don't want to moderate and we have a small pool of people actually willing to do so
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Brainy16-Aug-21 10:57 PM
Pinned a message.
Pinning this just so we can return to it later if we ever decide to have a productive discussion about this involving everyone.
Dal290
People don't want to moderate and we have a small pool of people actually willing to do so
Brainy16-Aug-21 10:59 PM
If people don't want to moderate then they don't have to have a tag next to their name.
Problem solved.
Brainy
If people don't want to moderate then they don't have to have a tag next to their name.
Dal29016-Aug-21 10:59 PM
Haha nah friend its the opposite
People don't want to do it
Brainy16-Aug-21 11:00 PM
If people don't want to do it, then their non-existent opinion here doesn't matter, and I don't see why it's being vocalized by you as if it's representative of an argument?
Dal29016-Aug-21 11:00 PM
Not the current mods, I mean around /vrg/
You are proposing that somebody enforce anything, who is going to do that
Brainy16-Aug-21 11:01 PM
Anyways, I've said all I will about this. I also disagree with Carl being permabanned. That's about it.
Dal290
You are proposing that somebody enforce anything, who is going to do that
Brainy16-Aug-21 11:01 PM
I'm not going to engage in this recursive argument anymore, but it would be us, obviously, and if you don't want to be a part of enforcing anything, then nobody is forcing you to do so.
Dal29016-Aug-21 11:04 PM
I know I know it ends up in loops, nobody wants to overrule another on matters and people can interpret things how they want, that's what my point ends at.
Stannic16-Aug-21 11:32 PM
so next topic
HOW MURDER ASYLUM
reason: udon broke my brane and i need someone to blame
🔇16-Aug-21 11:35 PM
I’m in Florida, I’m half dead already
Just come finish the job
Pineapples17-Aug-21 01:07 AM
I'm still unsure about Carl having done anything bad enough to warrant a ban. All I've ever seen is him rambling about something with or without people responding to it.
It is a nuisance at times, though, so I'm in favour of someone actually discussing it with him. If he's likely to get banned for making it hard for people to talk in here, someone should really have a good talk with him to explain that he needs to cut down on his ramblings and what the consequences will be if he doesn't.
Distoibed17-Aug-21 01:54 AM
Its kind of silly that we're considering banning him for rambling too much
2
Stannic
Distoibed17-Aug-21 02:01 AM
Did you just solve the Carl problem?
Stannic17-Aug-21 02:01 AM
no
teach people how to use the block feature
and/or time them both out for being dipshits(edited)
Distoibed17-Aug-21 02:03 AM
I'll just suggest the block feature to the peeps in my own way
Stannic17-Aug-21 02:03 AM
teach me
Distoibed17-Aug-21 02:05 AM
Explain to them what the block feature does without saying the word "block",
Like saying that there is a way for you to never see his messages again
Stannic17-Aug-21 02:05 AM
oh so treat them like children
Distoibed17-Aug-21 02:05 AM
Get them to agree that it's a neat thing
Stannic17-Aug-21 02:05 AM
Distoibed17-Aug-21 02:06 AM
And then tell them to block him
Dal29017-Aug-21 02:06 AM
I don't think its silly at all, we considered it and had to revote to change the outcome
Distoibed17-Aug-21 02:06 AM
If they think blocking is cringe and for redditor soyboys
Tell them that they need the feature more than they are willing to admit
Stannic17-Aug-21 02:07 AM
i'll tell them i can put a gag order on them too
Distoibed17-Aug-21 02:08 AM
Because people want to block Carl without blocking him
Stannic17-Aug-21 02:08 AM
Dal29017-Aug-21 02:08 AM
Add a block function to 4chan and I'll be good on my end
Somebody convince him to trip please
Stannic17-Aug-21 02:09 AM
please
for the love of god
or introduce him to lit and karl marx thread and have him find another community to shit up
Distoibed17-Aug-21 02:10 AM
I just stop reading when i see his fancy schmancy typestyle
Stannic17-Aug-21 02:10 AM
i just get tired of uncollapsing one post
and then all of a sudden it's like 80 posts hidden
Brainy17-Aug-21 07:21 AM
People are getting edgy in #happening posting the video of the dead body hanging off the side of the plane returning from Afghanistan.
There's nothing graphic per se, no blood or gore, but it is a dead body, and they're adding sound effects that mock or make light of the death.
These community guidelines are developed to make sure everyone on Discord has a good time making great memories.
Distoibed17-Aug-21 07:23 AM
Is it a 4chan link?
(I have happening muted)
Brainy17-Aug-21 07:23 AM
Discord guidelines don't mention anything about dead bodies, it's just "sadistic gore", which I don't think this would fall under personally.
But people adding the sound effects, I'm not sure how they would look at that?
Distoibed17-Aug-21 07:24 AM
Dead bodies prolly fall under NSFL
Brainy17-Aug-21 07:24 AM
NSFL?
Distoibed17-Aug-21 07:24 AM
Not safe for life
Brainy17-Aug-21 07:24 AM
Distoibed17-Aug-21 07:24 AM
Just general gire
Gore
I got a discord ban for posting gore
Brainy17-Aug-21 07:25 AM
So it's not what I would classify as gore. It's just what I would classify as a dead body. Usually platforms allow this so long as the body is at peace or in repose. But the body here is obviously not that (it's pretty animated) and the context is mocking a death (adding sound effects like ragdoll physics).
It's more on par with that one YouTuber who went to the suicide forest in Japan and made international headlines posting the video, which got curated on YouTube, forcing them to change their policy.(edited)
This is why the edginess of the situation is something I bring up for discussion here.
If it were me I'd just play it safe and remove it, but people are actively discussing it right now and sharing, so I'm not sure if that's a good idea.
Because it might mean messaging people asking them not to post it, or warning them?
Thoughts on this?
Distoibed
I got a discord ban for posting gore
Brainy17-Aug-21 07:28 AM
Did it involve bodily fluids of any kind, or was it just a dead body like this?
Pineapples17-Aug-21 07:28 AM
They'll most likely just start posting it more if you ask them not to.
Brainy17-Aug-21 07:28 AM
That was my gut feeling too lol
Pineapples17-Aug-21 07:28 AM
I don't know if it's likely to get us in any trouble, but I'd delete it some time later just in case.
Brainy17-Aug-21 07:28 AM
"Hey guys, please stop posting this."
Suddenly we have everyone making their own version and posting it in every channel.
Okay, I'll just add it to #bot-review then. Sounds like the best thing to do in this case.
Pineapples17-Aug-21 07:29 AM
It's not graphic at least, but I can see it being a super touchy subject right now. It'd be an easy target for someone to report, though I don't know how often people actually do that.
Brainy17-Aug-21 07:29 AM
@Distoibed Can you give a better description of what it was you posted? It might be relevant for this and similar posts in the future.
Pineapples
It's not graphic at least, but I can see it being a super touchy subject right now. It'd be an easy target for someone to report, though I don't know how often people actually do that.
Brainy17-Aug-21 07:30 AM
Yeah, that's exactly why I brought it up. It's like right on the edge specifically because of how people are transforming the content.
If it was just the footage standalone, I don't think it would be an issue. Unless that's identical to what got @Distoibed banned.
But generally something is only gore when there's bodily fluids involved or something extremely graphic.
Distoibed17-Aug-21 07:31 AM
Depends, i got reported for posting a dog being mauled by a shovel, but i shared Gore in dms
Brainy17-Aug-21 07:31 AM
The dog is what likely did it because it's animal cruelty.
At least that would be my guess. There's really no knowing for sure.
Do you have the ban reason they gave?
Did they just call it "gore" and that's it?
Pineapples17-Aug-21 07:32 AM
I'd assume just "TOS violation lol"
Brainy17-Aug-21 07:33 AM
10. You may not share images of sadistic gore or animal cruelty.(edited)
That's from their TOS.
The adjective is pretty specific, but who the fuck knows how they define it internally...
Brainy
Did they just call it "gore" and that's it?
Distoibed17-Aug-21 07:34 AM
Gloryfying violence
Brainy17-Aug-21 07:35 AM
Usually it's bodily fluids as the standard. But let's say someone has an MMA community and people post pictures of the fights and injuries. They can't be too strict on gore or else they're going to censor that. The same goes for any screenshots from videogames.
I feel like they must have some internal definition dependent on whether the gore is real, how graphic it is (bodily fluids, etc.), and the context in which it is being shared, that would transform it into something "sadistic" beyond just gore.
But "dead body" could easily fall under that category and I could see mocking footage of a death as something they might consider sadistic.
Gonna mark these for removal in #bot-review , I'd remove them soon as people lose interest posting them and they fall back a few pages.(edited)
the more back ups we have if dank doesnt do it the better
Black Lily17-Aug-21 11:40 PM
I think it's alright to let people in that are planning to get vr
Stannic17-Aug-21 11:41 PM
I disagree with that
We had Stolas and Luna the blue shitter
Eric17-Aug-21 11:41 PM
no
not even
Stannic17-Aug-21 11:41 PM
and kenji in with no intentions to get vr but they can say "they''re planning to get it"
Eric17-Aug-21 11:41 PM
that guy came in asked for assets and then proceeded to spam when he didnt get what he wants
just get a headset and come back
not hard
vr starts at 200 dollars
Black Lily17-Aug-21 11:42 PM
Obviously we put a limit on it but if they're joining for the first time I think it's alright
Eric17-Aug-21 11:42 PM
naw man i cant even
just let them interact with thread if they are planning on to
its not hard to join off people in vrc with thread
Black Lily17-Aug-21 11:42 PM
Like kenji not having a headset after three years plus the stimmy checks is retarded
Stannic17-Aug-21 11:42 PM
Eric17-Aug-21 11:42 PM
that daranus or whatever guy
still doesnt have his headset
Stannic17-Aug-21 11:43 PM
Yep
Eric17-Aug-21 11:43 PM
hes been promising that since like 2 weeks ago
Stannic17-Aug-21 11:43 PM
And he still "plans to get it"
Eric17-Aug-21 11:43 PM
saying its 1 week away
that guy isnt a problem, but a clear example
Stannic17-Aug-21 11:43 PM
and that kid is cringe as shit from what i experienced
even said krial was gatekeeping him
and comes in putting on nazi shit and shoving pol discussions into conversations
Dal29017-Aug-21 11:43 PM
I would say letting in vtards with a hard on from a /v/ thread featuring nothing but feet and gigantism isn't a good crowd to just trust them bro
Eric17-Aug-21 11:44 PM
vr content isnt hard to find
they can find everything they need to pill themselves about vr without the discord(edited)
Stannic17-Aug-21 11:44 PM
yeah just refer to jameskii vids
but nah when do we give duran the boot if he still doesn't have VR by the end of august
or we can kick him on 9-11 if he doesn't have it by then
like i'll take black lily's first time into consideration if they're planning to get it
but if the can keeps on getting kicked down the road then send them to italy
Black Lily17-Aug-21 11:46 PM
Sure, if he don't have it after months of being here he'll probably never get it
Stannic17-Aug-21 11:47 PM
Okay so kick on 9-11
if he doesn't have it
I feel that's lenient for a time frame when that's about a month's paycheck to get an entry level vr set
Black Lily17-Aug-21 11:48 PM
We should vote on it still(edited)
/u/GemManBad17-Aug-21 11:48 PM
Nice to see one copy pasta caused beef to flip(edited)
Stannic17-Aug-21 11:48 PM
we can vote on 9-11
/u/GemManBad17-Aug-21 11:48 PM
He even left of his own accord, literally a nothing burger
Stannic17-Aug-21 11:49 PM
The guy with the long ass fuck off name or
Dal29017-Aug-21 11:49 PM
Letting in asset hunters is gay and stinky
Black Lily17-Aug-21 11:50 PM
Like the guy that kept trying to get people to buy those super overpriced booth modes
Stannic17-Aug-21 11:51 PM
oh
Mumu from NYC17-Aug-21 11:53 PM
I just got home and oh my god what the FUCK
Black Lily17-Aug-21 11:54 PM
Hi, how was your day?
Pineapples17-Aug-21 11:55 PM
If they say they don't have VR yet, at least make sure they have a strong interest in it. Like maybe they're here to ask people about the pros and cons of each headset before they but one.
But if they just say they don't have one then they can go(edited)
Stannic17-Aug-21 11:55 PM
putting my bias aside
i saw his stuff in dal's workshop
and he seems to be trying to get his 3d model in and he does have an interest
and putting my bias back in
he's still cringe as fuck and wish he could grow out of pol
just that interest but no vr headset and then constantly kicking the can down the road until they get it is a bit ehhh
Like Dal back then was a porchtopper but he eventually got VR, however Dal also made a lot of VR content also with his models
and whatever weird finnciky shit he found in unity that made it fun
along with hamulily
Duran shows interest in at least vrchat and making his own models but he allegedly said he will get VR so unless he doesn't have it by then, a vote can take place
Black Lily17-Aug-21 11:58 PM
And Ryncar
Stannic17-Aug-21 11:58 PM
Yeah Rynkar
I forgot about him
and steelthe
Black Lily17-Aug-21 11:58 PM
But he actually can't afford vr
Stannic17-Aug-21 11:58 PM
Yeah phillipines
Which is 200x more expensive
Black Lily17-Aug-21 11:58 PM
He can barely afford to live
Stannic17-Aug-21 11:59 PM
Yep
And Rare Spice was really good before he got vr also
Dal29017-Aug-21 11:59 PM
I don't mind the no VR with only a few exceptions
Stannic17-Aug-21 11:59 PM
and Rare spice got good ass deals from outsource
Dal29017-Aug-21 11:59 PM
Like kenji
kenji needs die
ExecutiveJackbotBOT18-Aug-21 12:00 AM
Das racist... wait no it's not
Stannic18-Aug-21 12:01 AM
but as anything it can come down to a vote if we want to let non-vr people in or kick them out
Dal29018-Aug-21 12:22 AM
I will bite the bullet and link a mahjong instance in the /v/ thread to get a feel for either that spergo or whoever else drops by
Wish me luck
Distoibed18-Aug-21 12:25 AM
Headset requirement is stupid elitism
Distoibed18-Aug-21 12:43 AM
Cus if were gonna use that rule, i'll kick all current porchtoppets
Stannic18-Aug-21 01:09 AM
it's been a rule for a while
Unless I read it wrong with how kenji and luna got banned
ExecutiveJackbotBOT18-Aug-21 01:10 AM
I'm crying RN
Stannic
Unless I read it wrong with how kenji and luna got banned
Black Lily18-Aug-21 01:17 AM
Luna and Kenji had far more issues than just being forever desktoppers
Stannic18-Aug-21 01:17 AM
Yeah
but it was the ban reason that i remember
Which was funny at the time
Black Lily18-Aug-21 01:18 AM
I believe the luna ban mentioned them being an emotional vampire(edited)
Stannic18-Aug-21 01:18 AM
oh
all i remember was a myriad of things and them saying something about no vr and vr that it contradicted
black lily can put the guideline down on that
Black Lily18-Aug-21 01:19 AM
ExecutiveJackbotBOT18-Aug-21 01:19 AM
Das racist... wait no it's not
Black Lily18-Aug-21 01:19 AM
Krial18-Aug-21 02:26 AM
I think personally
Extended period porchtoppers can eat a hot dick
If you’re here, give us a deadline for you having a headset
And don’t meet it multiple times, gtfo.
Distoibed18-Aug-21 02:35 AM
Durandus
Said he'd have vr by monday
Stannic18-Aug-21 02:41 AM
now set the timer for fbt
Black Lily
I think it's alright to let people in that are planning to get vr
Brainy18-Aug-21 03:42 AM
Same, I don't know why we're gating against people who don't have VR yet, unless we've always done this? I know people from meetups who took over a year or longer to finally get VR. Makes sense right now with people anticipating a new Index announcement too.
Stannic18-Aug-21 03:42 AM
for as far as I remember needing vr was a thing i thought
Perrine
Click to see attachment🖼️
Brainy18-Aug-21 03:42 AM
This person sounds like they have issues. Report them to Discord if they're messaging you that shit.
Krial18-Aug-21 03:42 AM
@Brainy it’s moreso
Interest in vr cool. Have that.
But if you’re just desktopping and keep telling us “yeah I’m getting vr” and don’t?
Then you’re just trying to discordsurf
Imo.
Stannic18-Aug-21 03:43 AM
there's a certain limit i guess
like we have manami in here and rynkar
Krial18-Aug-21 03:43 AM
Like for previously established “personalities” like manami
Yeah
I guess it’s ok
Stannic18-Aug-21 03:44 AM
ones a long time coomer who's a walking jester
and rynkar is cool so i have nothing against them but it's also a double standard
and i agree with distoibed when it comes to exceptions being retarded
have them browse the thread and interact with others in vr
and let them coast around vr channels
but the minute i see them posting only in happening or flat games is a squint
Yeah
Krial18-Aug-21 03:49 AM
I think it’s a combination.
Stannic18-Aug-21 03:49 AM
If they're contributing like dal in his porchtopper days or at least contributing some way to the community then sure
Krial18-Aug-21 03:49 AM
Like. A grading system almost. As bad as it sounds it’s a scale.
If you’re contributing, and a net positive, take your time(edited)
Stannic18-Aug-21 03:49 AM
but if they're desktopping in the corner and doing nothing
Krial18-Aug-21 03:49 AM
If you’re being fucking weird
Desktoppping and staring at coomer meets
Get fucked
Stannic18-Aug-21 03:50 AM
or the webm of that one desktopper doing a time lapse video of the eu meetup
nuso was his name?
Krial18-Aug-21 03:50 AM
That being said. I’m not going to vote on a durandus kick. Because I’m biased and dislike him for spam invite requesting me and pissing off my friends.
So I have previous history, and would absolutely have bias in a vote.
Stannic18-Aug-21 03:51 AM
i'm willing to give him time till 9-11 for shits and giggles
Krial18-Aug-21 03:51 AM
I will however, say he told me originally august 2nd for VR. Then second week of august for VR. Now it’s 9/11.
Brainy18-Aug-21 03:52 AM
I agree that someone who's not attending meetups, only posting /pol/ stuff in #happening, not contributing or interacting in #blender-unity , #workshop , etc., probably isn't here to interact with the community at large in a very meaningful way.
Krial18-Aug-21 03:52 AM
So take from that what you will.
Who was that viet guy
Stannic18-Aug-21 03:52 AM
viet guy?
Krial18-Aug-21 03:52 AM
He told me “vr in a month”
An expat who joined and couldn’t afford it
He got vr 2 weeks in
Stannic18-Aug-21 03:52 AM
oh lmao
Krial18-Aug-21 03:52 AM
That’s how you do it.
Brainy18-Aug-21 03:53 AM
I feel like we should be lenient to people who are in East Asia. It's really expensive there.
Stannic18-Aug-21 03:53 AM
as long as they aren't kicking the can down the road
Krial18-Aug-21 03:53 AM
If you’re broke, and just wanting a “community”
Cool. There’s tons that aren’t based in vr
Go elsewhere
Stannic18-Aug-21 03:53 AM
I feel like we shouldn't be lenient to people who are making false promises
rather than those who live in third world countries
Krial18-Aug-21 03:53 AM
And rainy, absolutely I agree
220%
Brainy18-Aug-21 03:53 AM
I think the same for people in poorer EU countries or Baltic States.
Krial18-Aug-21 03:53 AM
If it’s expensive, life matters.
But if you’re NA
Fuck out of here
Stannic18-Aug-21 03:54 AM
Hazzy is from Croatia and he got VR and he had to save up a long time
Krial18-Aug-21 03:54 AM
Quest 2 is literally 300 bucks
Stannic18-Aug-21 03:54 AM
thing is that he showed for a long time that he has a huge interest in it
Krial18-Aug-21 03:54 AM
Luna wasn’t kicked for VR btw
Stannic18-Aug-21 03:54 AM
and didn't kept on saying he'll get it next week
Krial18-Aug-21 03:54 AM
It was emotional vampire shit
Stannic18-Aug-21 03:54 AM
Ah
Brainy18-Aug-21 03:54 AM
One of my friends is a .NET Core QE Engineer for Red Hat / IBM and I had to buy her a Valve Index because she couldn't afford it where she lives (Czechia). I also spent twice as much on it as it would have cost me in the states. The markup was surreal.
Krial18-Aug-21 03:54 AM
Psychopath.
Actual psychopath
Stannic18-Aug-21 03:55 AM
Eh we've already been there
Lets not again
lmao
Krial18-Aug-21 03:55 AM
@Brainy yeah, I don’t think broke folks are what we’re worried about
Stannic18-Aug-21 03:55 AM
^
Krial18-Aug-21 03:55 AM
We’re worried about folks lying about it, and pissing off the community and becoming another kenji.
Stannic18-Aug-21 03:55 AM
False promises shows more character than those who are broke
Brainy18-Aug-21 03:55 AM
Ah okay. Yeah I'm just saying if people are displaying interest in things relevant to VRChat / VR space, like modeling especially, I feel like we should be a little lenient there is all.
Stannic18-Aug-21 03:55 AM
Yeah we can let them in
Krial18-Aug-21 03:56 AM
I had to deal with durandus DM’ing a shit ton of my friends saying I was going to mod abuse make him get banned becuase I said “fuck furniture” at a dance, and he thought I meant him.(edited)
1
Stannic18-Aug-21 03:56 AM
Especially if they want to get into VR, and they have skills in blender or unity or whatever
Brainy18-Aug-21 03:56 AM
I just don't want us to be a bunch of bourgeois bitches you guys lol
That's all
Krial18-Aug-21 03:56 AM
And tell em I wasn’t trying to ban anybody, etc
Stannic18-Aug-21 03:56 AM
but if they're like haha yeah i'll get vr soon™️
Krial18-Aug-21 03:56 AM
That’s my bias towards that little fuck nugget
And why I’m abstaining on a vote.
Because after that shit I’d gladly tell him to gtfo and even pull the trigger, and that’s not my job to do.
Stannic18-Aug-21 03:57 AM
Durandus in my experience with him so far the first time i met him is he's a creepy desktopper who was simping for Kaori and Dextrah
and that's how he found his way to vrg
Krial18-Aug-21 03:57 AM
Oh brother I could add at least 15 more names to that list of simping.
Stannic18-Aug-21 03:57 AM
yeeeah
Krial18-Aug-21 03:57 AM
It’s fucking bad.
Like 11/10 bad.
But I’m drunk and posting which is dumb.
Stannic18-Aug-21 03:58 AM
but gossiping aside, i think we can still keep asking if they got vr
but rather than it being black and white
Krial18-Aug-21 03:58 AM
Yeah. I think that’s the approach.
Just set a soft time limit for bullshittery
Stannic18-Aug-21 03:58 AM
if they say they'll get vr then they're on a timeline
if they say they're too poor to get it then they still get in
Krial18-Aug-21 03:58 AM
And eventually be like “come back with it”
Stannic18-Aug-21 03:58 AM
at least they're honest
Krial18-Aug-21 03:58 AM
Not even a ban.
Just a kick til they sort their shit
That’s fair imo.
Stannic18-Aug-21 03:59 AM
yeah
Krial18-Aug-21 03:59 AM
No bans, but kicks that aren’t permanent feel more than lenient to me.
Stannic18-Aug-21 03:59 AM
because like rynkar, they might have issues with money, limited space or whatever and if they can come in and contribute sure
hamulily, rynkar, desktop dal, and more i keep forgetting as time goes on
i guess the whole "do you have vr" is like a filter
Krial18-Aug-21 04:00 AM
Yeah. Which is good.(edited)
We need filters.
Otherwise. It’s THAT much easier to spoonfeed in retards.
Stannic18-Aug-21 04:01 AM
catch bullshit or if they're honest they can still get in at least
Krial18-Aug-21 04:01 AM
Also @Brainy I didn’t tell you because Florida, 110% agree with your sliding scale discipline shit.
I think it’s a positive move and should be adopted. Folks who don’t want to enforce it should get fucked.
They don’t have to mod.
Enforcing rules is literally their job.(edited)
Stannic18-Aug-21 04:01 AM
at this point with the sliding scale
Krial18-Aug-21 04:02 AM
Don’t wanna do your job? Cool, vg role is fine.
Krial
Also @Brainy I didn’t tell you because Florida, 110% agree with your sliding scale discipline shit.
Brainy18-Aug-21 04:02 AM
Thank you!
Stannic18-Aug-21 04:02 AM
as long as it helps out avoid that entire stupid shit again
i'll take it
Krial18-Aug-21 04:02 AM
Even 4chan moderation has more standards than we do atm. We need loose flexible guidelines that don’t step into nazidom
Atm all jannies and mods are afraid to undo something someone else does becuase we don’t want to step on each others toes or get into a dick measuring contest.
Stannic18-Aug-21 04:03 AM
nah gonna ban everyone like wt snacks
Brainy18-Aug-21 04:03 AM
The sliding scale is flexible too. As in, targeted harassment is obviously more serious than Carl-tier shitposting. If you guys want to come up with harsher punitive actions for the more serious stuff, we can do that too. The important thing is to just be able to identify what we're seeing and how severe it is which, at least for me, has been a problem whenever these votes come up.
Krial18-Aug-21 04:03 AM
But a flexible but clear rule system even if users don’t see it, is a valuable tool imo.
Stannic18-Aug-21 04:03 AM
>clear rule
Rythm 2BOT18-Aug-21 04:03 AM
You have to be in a voice channel to use this command.
Stannic18-Aug-21 04:04 AM
I think we should keep that away from the public
unless you wanna have people try and play around it and be nuisances
Krial18-Aug-21 04:04 AM
Same. If they see it, they’re gonna try to get around it.
Or antagonize it.
Stannic18-Aug-21 04:04 AM
we'll just call it our 12-steps program
welcome to AA
enjoy your stay
Krial18-Aug-21 04:05 AM
Also stannic I sincerely hope I didn’t piss you off with Carl lol
Stannic18-Aug-21 04:05 AM
No
You didn't
I just hate his guts
Krial18-Aug-21 04:05 AM
Because I love you to death and that was 200% an alcohol induced retard moment. Lmfao
Stannic18-Aug-21 04:05 AM
tell him to get a tripcode and i'll forgive him for 1/3 of all the fucking ramblings he did for the past year(edited)
Krial18-Aug-21 04:08 AM
Lmfao he may actually do that if I ask
If it helps, I’ve moved him to trash mostly.
Hahahahah
Stannic18-Aug-21 04:08 AM
god bless
Krial18-Aug-21 04:08 AM
He’s been telling people in trash thread to seek Jesus.(edited)
Brainy18-Aug-21 04:08 AM
People will always try to figure out the system or play around it. But it's obvious when they are and we can also adapt to that.
Such as, I used the decay system in the Carl example. It would be unfair if he was on good behavior for months, then got hit with a month long timeout when he got drunk one weekend. But obviously we might not want that kind of forgiveness for someone like CAB persistently targeting and harassing a person.
There doesn't need to be a "one size fits all" for every single type of offense, nor should there be, and that will cut down on exploitation a fuckton.(edited)
Pineapples18-Aug-21 04:09 AM
At least he was out fast, though.
Stannic18-Aug-21 04:09 AM
Yeah
Well that was invalidum vetting him hue
Krial18-Aug-21 04:09 AM
I think honeslty how I vet folks
Is a decent way
Stannic18-Aug-21 04:09 AM
And I think invalidum was attempting to be more relax with his approach?
Krial18-Aug-21 04:09 AM
I start you with 100% and gradually subtract for every fuckup you make
Brainy18-Aug-21 04:09 AM
I'd seriously report that guy.
Just for that shit he wrote.
Krial18-Aug-21 04:10 AM
If you dip below 70%, gone
ExecutiveJackbotBOT18-Aug-21 04:10 AM
I'm crying RN
Pineapples18-Aug-21 04:10 AM
Yeah, if there's anything that seems odd about them then it's good to dig a little deeper.
Stannic18-Aug-21 04:10 AM
Yeah that guy was odd
just like the one with the long ass name
Brainy18-Aug-21 04:10 AM
Yeah if he was sending that copy pasta specifically to trans people on here
Coming here just to be a dick
Then leave
Stannic18-Aug-21 04:10 AM
Guy was here inquiring beef about everything and only related to dumb shit
then i interjected with second life shit in the past and he grappled onto that
seemed like he wanted to see drama and scan around
Krial18-Aug-21 04:11 AM
As imo we should be coming from 4chan :^)
Krial
Atm all jannies and mods are afraid to undo something someone else does becuase we don’t want to step on each others toes or get into a dick measuring contest.
Mumu from NYC18-Aug-21 04:12 AM
I took the 2 week timeout people out of timeout after 2 weeks :)
ExecutiveJackbotBOT18-Aug-21 04:12 AM
I'm crying RN
Krial18-Aug-21 04:12 AM
Which is a good thing.
Modship imo is bein the one to drop the hammer; and also tell em why it’s being dropped.
If you can’t do both, cool, hand it to someone who can.
Stannic18-Aug-21 04:13 AM
what
i thought it was all about having a power trip
Krial18-Aug-21 04:13 AM
Lmao
Gotta make the calls, but also take the shit that comes with making said calls
Stannic18-Aug-21 04:14 AM
but nah there was some sus ass people tho for the last 2 entries excluding the new sonny guy
Krial18-Aug-21 04:14 AM
Vile.
I was at party
Stannic18-Aug-21 04:14 AM
and the other autist who i googled his name and the guy was argumentative in the forum i found him in
Mumu from NYC18-Aug-21 04:14 AM
that's so easy for me
Stannic18-Aug-21 04:14 AM
lmao
Mumu from NYC18-Aug-21 04:14 AM
I already dislike most people (edited)
Krial18-Aug-21 04:14 AM
Speaking of my
Mu*
Check DM’s for a special surprise from Florida :^)
Pineapples18-Aug-21 04:15 AM
I think he came in, started asking for assets, found out we're not an asset dispensary, then pinged some roles with some copypasta and left.
Stannic18-Aug-21 04:15 AM
^
Mumu from NYC18-Aug-21 04:15 AM
I go to florida every year there's nothing that can surprise me
Stannic18-Aug-21 04:15 AM
He also got hazed by the rest of the people too
Mumu from NYC18-Aug-21 04:15 AM
Krial18-Aug-21 04:15 AM
You sure?
Stannic18-Aug-21 04:15 AM
I think he got triggered and then copy pasted
Mumu from NYC18-Aug-21 04:16 AM
that shit was so fucking funny dude
Krial18-Aug-21 04:16 AM
Holy fuck
So glad they ragequit before finding our assets lmfao
Mumu from NYC18-Aug-21 04:16 AM
I literally get home, find discord flooed with messages, see picture attached, laugh my ass off
Krial18-Aug-21 04:16 AM
It’s actually hilarious.
Mumu from NYC18-Aug-21 04:16 AM
so bazed
ExecutiveJackbotBOT18-Aug-21 04:16 AM
Das racist
Krial18-Aug-21 04:16 AM
:^)
Distoibed18-Aug-21 04:16 AM
@Brainy could you tldr me on the alode thing? On phone atm
Stannic18-Aug-21 04:17 AM
he isn't as entertaining as the one schizo krial was dming and asking questions on
Krial18-Aug-21 04:17 AM
God damn that guy
Mumu from NYC18-Aug-21 04:17 AM
say it to my face
Krial18-Aug-21 04:17 AM
Lmfao
Mumu from NYC18-Aug-21 04:17 AM
I don't read dm's because my pastor told me not to succumb to the devil's message.
ExecutiveJackbotBOT18-Aug-21 04:17 AM
GAMER???
Pineapples18-Aug-21 04:17 AM
Chuck "from: AnonBird1221#3926" in the search box and you can see what happened. Only a handful of messages.
Krial18-Aug-21 04:17 AM
And you cry
Distoibed
@Brainy could you tldr me on the alode thing? On phone atm
someone post the johnny silverhand messaging you thing
for the one guy
Krial18-Aug-21 04:20 AM
I also apparently asked you a question back in January right when I rejoined you ignored lol mu
Brainy
Alode?
Distoibed18-Aug-21 04:20 AM
Slide
Krial18-Aug-21 04:20 AM
So thanks for leaving me on read
;(
Mumu from NYC18-Aug-21 04:20 AM
like I said
Distoibed18-Aug-21 04:21 AM
Slide system seems ez and ok
Just pin it and look when you've forgotten
Krial18-Aug-21 04:21 AM
Anyways night losers. I’ll catch up tmrw otw home.
Brainy18-Aug-21 04:23 AM
@Distoibed The sliding scale would be:
Additive punitive actions (punishments) for repeat offenses (bad behavior).
Punishment would depend on behavior (Carloff-topic shitposting, versus Cute Anime Boytargeted harassment).
There would / could be "decay" on the "counter" for additive punishments, depending on the offense.
.(edited)
The identification metric would be:
1.) Identify Behavior
Are they being a Carl (shitposting), or being a CAB (harassing)?
2.) Identify Intent
Are they clearly doing it deliberately?
3.) Identify Targeting
Are they clearly targeting another user?
Consistent identification is important for consistent enforcement of any guideline (timeouts / bans).(edited)
Stannic18-Aug-21 04:32 AM
can jannies come in and tell them both to shut the fuck up if people request it
carl and the instigator
or just let the two duke it out until they're out of steam
or tell them about the magical FUCKING BLOCK BUTTON
Brainy18-Aug-21 04:34 AM
Where? @Stannic(edited)
NM I'm dumb, I thought you meant something happening right now.(edited)
Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.
Brainy18-Aug-21 04:34 AM
Pinned a message.
Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.
Brainy18-Aug-21 04:34 AM
Pinned a message.
Stannic
can jannies come in and tell them both to shut the fuck up if people request it
Brainy18-Aug-21 04:38 AM
That's how Pineapples handled the situation with Biggus and Comfy.
Both were warned and advised to block each other (eventually they stopped arguing).
I would Timeout both if, after being warned and getting their "last words" in, they keep going and don't stop.(edited)
Brainy18-Aug-21 09:13 AM
Mizumi is really crossing the line with what they keep posting in #nsfw-pics
As in we should have a zero tolerance policy towards this
FYI:
Pineapples18-Aug-21 09:19 AM
Some of that stuff does look pretty young, yeah. Not like 'this is clearly a 5 year old' or anything quite that extreme, but a little over the line. Feel free to tell him not to post that stuff. If the past is any indication, he'll probably start posting more, maybe others will do the same, but just chuck 'em in the timeout corner for a day if they do.
We've had to deal with this shit in Yuru's first discord. It's a real pain since anime often looks pretty young anyway, so the line gets really blurry.
There's a good reason it's also in the channel description, rather than relying on common sense.
Brainy18-Aug-21 09:35 AM
Also I dunno if we saw the same post or not. I don't want to link to it even.
Pineapples18-Aug-21 09:35 AM
What I meant was that people always come up with stupid arguments to defend themselves if it doesn't look <10 years old.
Not saying it doesn't look like a minor, just that they're going to be a total bitch about it when you tell them not to post it.
Brainy18-Aug-21 09:36 AM
What I'm saying is it definitely, obviously, clearly looks <10.
Pineapples18-Aug-21 09:36 AM
I looked through a bunch of images he posted, not sure if there's a specific one you're referring to.
Feel free. No need to worry about waiting until people don't see it any more either, this is straight up stuff people shouldn't be posting.
Just make sure you tell him not to post that stuff. Or if you'd rather not, I or someone else can warn him about it.
Brainy18-Aug-21 09:39 AM
Basically there's a point where it's "arguably" not clearly/obviously/reasonably a minor, but when it's straight up this, there's really no denying it, because of how the characters are depicted.
Pineapples18-Aug-21 09:40 AM
Yeah, the 'arguably' range is where things get tricky.
Brainy18-Aug-21 09:40 AM
Yeah I'm not going to touch that with a 10ft pole lol
What I'm going to say is if I see this again, from this same person, I'm removing them from this server.
Krial18-Aug-21 09:40 AM
Rainy want me to tell em?
Brainy18-Aug-21 09:41 AM
Use your own discretion yeah, I'll trust you guys
Krial18-Aug-21 09:41 AM
Aight.
Brainy18-Aug-21 09:41 AM
But I can't insist enough, we really can't tolerate anyone known to us to be posting this.
Really if he does this again, he has to be gone.
Pineapples18-Aug-21 09:41 AM
Well, I'd give him longer and longer timeouts for it since he's not the kind of person we'd normally ban. But someone definitely needs to warn him so it doesn't come out of nowhere.
Or rather I'd give him a day the first time so he knows we're not bluffing and then straight to a month if he continues after that.
Krial18-Aug-21 09:42 AM
I tagged him
Pineapples
Well, I'd give him longer and longer timeouts for it since he's not the kind of person we'd normally ban. But someone definitely needs to warn him so it doesn't come out of nowhere.
Brainy18-Aug-21 09:44 AM
What I'm trying to emphasize here is that this is us essentially tolerating / "covering" for someone.
Over material that could get us reported to NCMEC due to the conversation surrounding it on this server.(edited)
That's why there can't be any tolerance.
It's not within the realm of being deniable or defensible in any capacity.
Pineapples18-Aug-21 09:46 AM
Yeah, I understand. Just don't want otherwise fine people getting banned when they're not usually any trouble. Maybe warn him, give him a timeout if he does it again and warn him he'll be banned next time.
Brainy18-Aug-21 09:46 AM
Maybe by 4chan standards, but not the standards Discord uses to judge this server (or us) if someone posting this type of shit here gets reported.
Pineapples18-Aug-21 09:46 AM
I don't think anyone here wants to throw someone out who's otherwise fine. But just telling him he'll be banned likely won't stop him. People here often need proof that we're actually going to do something first.
Brainy18-Aug-21 09:47 AM
Honestly I dunno the best way to go about it.
I feel like we should tell people straight up, if they post this shit, it's a ban.
But I also feel if we do that, it could just result in a bunch of people posting it and getting nuked off the server.
Pineapples18-Aug-21 09:48 AM
The trouble is when it's stuff that's unclear. We don't want people worrying about getting banned with no warning just because they posted a character that may look 18 to one person and 17 to another.
Brainy18-Aug-21 09:48 AM
That's not what I'm describing though.
There's a difference between what is clearly/obviously a minor and what is not.
Pineapples18-Aug-21 09:49 AM
Here we go, "you didn't delete something else that you can't even see right now, so why this?"
Brainy18-Aug-21 09:49 AM
Obviously, if a character is fully developed, it's difficult to gauge whether it's a minor. It's not clear/obvious.
When a character is clearly/obviously prepubescent, it removes all doubt.
The resulting sexualized conversation it inspires is also sexualizing outside the context of the picture itself in most cases.
This is the type of conversation that would get reported to NCMEC, it's sexualization of minors, or prepubescents.
If we delete this content and do not report, but keep those users around, who then continue to post that content, it's us essentially allowing this server to be a place for that content / discussion.
Keep in mind that the whole reason Discord allows NSFW content is that they have safe harbor protections. It's us assuming the risk owning / operating / managing a server and more importantly, curating content and users.
When we're choosing not to act on a user, we're responsible for what that user posts. The same goes for reporting. Discord reports to NCMEC. We are not reporting to NCMEC, or to Discord.
Stannic18-Aug-21 09:53 AM
ho boy if they gonna start with that mental gymnastics then i don't mind culling more pics
Pineapples18-Aug-21 09:54 AM
I never look at the channel myself. Do other mods frequent it these days?
Considering the risk, it's something we should really look out for.
And also try not to piss people off by not doing anything about images by one person, but then dealing with another later because it's all we saw.
Brainy18-Aug-21 09:55 AM
I frequent it from time to time and I've been deleting this stuff. But now it's gotten to the point where I don't feel comfortable doing that unless we're enforcing an action.
Stannic18-Aug-21 09:55 AM
i don't frequent it but i will start to if mizumi or others start posting more of that shit
we do have no image roles so we can strip them of that
if they wanna start this shitty revolution
Brainy18-Aug-21 09:55 AM
Honestly that's how I would go about it
Remove image posting roles permanently
Pineapples18-Aug-21 09:55 AM
Oh yeah, I forget that role exists.
Stannic18-Aug-21 09:56 AM
if mizumi keeps that shit up then slap it on them forever
Pineapples18-Aug-21 09:56 AM
But yeah, just deleting stuff isn't an ideal way to deal with it.
It's gotta be made clear that people can't post it or they'll continue.
Stannic18-Aug-21 09:56 AM
they'll continue or they'll act like a shitter ala comfy
Pineapples18-Aug-21 09:57 AM
He hasn't posted any images, at least.
That's what used to happen. You warn someone about one image and then half a dozen people pop up and start spamming it.
Brainy18-Aug-21 09:57 AM
It's not, we're essentially "covering" for them, and taking tremendous risk doing it. As in us tolerating it in any capacity risks 1.) server getting nuked 2.) us getting permanently banned from the platform (including device IDs) and 3.) us getting reported to NCMEC for managing a community classified as involving open sexualization of prepubescent minors.
Stannic18-Aug-21 09:57 AM
yeah
well i don't mind putting half the server into no image gulag if they're going to lash out like that
lmao
and by half the server, i mean half of nsfw-chat
Brainy18-Aug-21 09:58 AM
So there needs to be a clear no bullshit policy on this going forward so people know not to fuck around or even risk this to be edgy
Pineapples18-Aug-21 09:58 AM
Yeah, I'm all good with cracking down hard on it as well. We've come this far without anything happening, but the risk goes beyond just an account ban or server nuke.
Brainy18-Aug-21 09:59 AM
The biggest problem with this too is we have so much shit in those channels.
It's like a constant stream, there's no way to reliably moderate against Mizumi for instance (although I've tried).
It's like the #general channels in that regard
Pineapples18-Aug-21 10:00 AM
It doesn't take me long to scroll through that channel until I get to 2 days ago. Shouldn't take more than a few minutes to skim through each day. Though maybe it's just slow right now.
Brainy18-Aug-21 10:00 AM
It may be the only real solution is what was suggested awhile back, which is just have the bot purge those channels periodically.
Pineapples18-Aug-21 10:01 AM
#nsfw-chat would be a whole other story with the amount of stuff in there, but I know we have mods and jannies who frequent that channel so that'd be easier.
Stannic18-Aug-21 10:01 AM
and have it whitelist some people
i know idrac and flameg never post that shit
along with johnny i think
the less they notice the better
Pineapples
#nsfw-chat would be a whole other story with the amount of stuff in there, but I know we have mods and jannies who frequent that channel so that'd be easier.
Stannic18-Aug-21 10:02 AM
i'll start deleting some of the inane shit that's been posted there
Brainy18-Aug-21 10:02 AM
Yeah honestly it's only this shit that's a problem
I've seen some stuff that's straight from Twitter, but it's usually on an account that says "18+"
Pineapples18-Aug-21 10:03 AM
I could see Twitter not being a justification because then they could slap us for sharing it.
Even if it's not uploaded here.
Brainy18-Aug-21 10:04 AM
This is the only stuff I've been seeing that crosses the line and it's specifically because of all those factors I stated coming together
Yeah if it was anything like CSAM they certainly would if we didn't delete it and act to remove the user and/or report them.
It's due to the Discord guidelines and laws that we have to worry about not acting on users with this
Because it can be seen as us harboring the users and enabling the posting / sharing of this content and these discussions
Pineapples18-Aug-21 10:07 AM
I think we'll need to make that clear. Not just a simple "don't post that" but actually explain how much shit people could find themselves in if we allow it.
Stannic18-Aug-21 10:07 AM
i think that'll devolve into
Brainy18-Aug-21 10:08 AM
Yeah no
It doesn't work that way
Pineapples18-Aug-21 10:08 AM
Then tell them that makes no difference.
And don't bother spending an hour arguing with people on it. Make shit clear and then don't say anything else.
Stannic18-Aug-21 10:08 AM
Gotcha boss
Pineapples18-Aug-21 10:09 AM
People will go on forever if you keep responding and then they'll see it as being up for debate or something we'll change our minds about.
Brainy18-Aug-21 10:09 AM
As in, yes, artistic depictions of minors do have some legal protections in the US, but we're talking about more than that, it's also the discussions surrounding it, which involve clear and unambiguous sexualization of characters that are clearly depicted as minors.
It's also a misconception that any and all artistic depiction is legal. It's not, there are obscenity standards, and there's even a recent case where a government employee was prosecuted and convicted for collecting anime/manga depictions only as a hobby.(edited)
Pineapples18-Aug-21 10:09 AM
Not to mention it's just a pain in the ass to argue with them.
Brainy18-Aug-21 10:09 AM
The latter being something platforms are legally obligated to report to NCMEC
Stannic18-Aug-21 10:11 AM
they can find another server or image aggregator for that and not here
last i checked it's a vr server not a porn server
Brainy18-Aug-21 10:12 AM
Yeah it's specifically the overtly and explicitly graphic sexual nature of it and discussion (including a specific channel devoted to sharing adult content) that's the problem. But I don't want to go into that detail with people. It's like arming them with a nuke aimed at us.(edited)
Pineapples18-Aug-21 10:13 AM
God I love it when people think they can just continue with no trouble while we can't do anything.
Literally asking for it.
Stannic
they can find another server or image aggregator for that and not here
Brainy18-Aug-21 10:14 AM
That's what kills me is they can go to Pixiv or some other place to find / share this stuff. There's no reason everyone here should have to assume risk for them to share (and dangerously discuss it) here.(edited)
Stannic18-Aug-21 10:14 AM
if mizumi and co wants to keep being edgy like this for crappy porn then gulag time
Brainy18-Aug-21 10:15 AM
Posting it here just inspires so many dangerous and reckless statements from certain people
Stannic18-Aug-21 10:16 AM
yeah like cakey in general chat
Pineapples
God I love it when people think they can just continue with no trouble while we can't do anything.
Krial18-Aug-21 10:16 AM
It’s all talk
The second I told him to do it he wouldn’t
Gotta look like a badass.
Pineapples18-Aug-21 10:17 AM
For now, at least.
Stannic18-Aug-21 10:17 AM
lets prevent this from happening
Pineapples18-Aug-21 10:17 AM
Sometimes they actually think they're right and carry on as though we can't do anything. It doesn't end well for them.
Yeah, I remember that time with Cakey. I've been keeping an eye on him ever since.
Brainy18-Aug-21 10:17 AM
Yeah, I even said at the time, that's the sort of shit I would literally report to NCMEC if it was sexualized
Pineapples18-Aug-21 10:17 AM
Not searching all his messages, but watching when I'm around.
Brainy18-Aug-21 10:18 AM
Me too. I haven't seen anything though
Pineapples18-Aug-21 10:18 AM
I shouldn't repeat anything he said, and at least he hasn't done anything, but man... that was not something anyone should talk about here.
Brainy18-Aug-21 10:18 AM
I really hope it stays that way
Stannic18-Aug-21 10:18 AM
i don't mind going full american x teeth to curb on some of those asshats in nsfw-pics
Brainy18-Aug-21 10:18 AM
People joke about this shit and it is absolutely not the shit you ever want to joke about. Trust me. Ever.
Not unless you want to get reported to NCMEC
Pineapples18-Aug-21 10:18 AM
Oh, he wasn't joking.
Brainy18-Aug-21 10:19 AM
Yeah that's even worse
Stannic18-Aug-21 10:19 AM
he lives in georgia and last i heard that's a us state that doesn't tolerate young depiction of any kind
Krial18-Aug-21 10:20 AM
Nope. We don’t. We still kill pedophiles tyvm.
Pineapples18-Aug-21 10:20 AM
I thought Cakey was german...
Stannic18-Aug-21 10:20 AM
Oh cakey is german
I meant mizumi
my bad
Brainy18-Aug-21 10:20 AM
If I saw anyone clearly/obviously/overtly sexualizing an actual 13-year-old I'd report yeah
Pineapples18-Aug-21 10:20 AM
Ah.
I don't remember what happened at the end of that conversation, whether someone warned him or not.
Don't know if I was a mod back then either.
Stannic18-Aug-21 10:22 AM
@Brainy
Brainy18-Aug-21 10:32 AM
I mean if he wants me to be more effective I can report him to Discord right now.
Pineapples
God I love it when people think they can just continue with no trouble while we can't do anything.
Distoibed18-Aug-21 10:35 AM
Clean him up
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Krial18-Aug-21 10:42 AM
He’s amicable.
Distoibed18-Aug-21 10:44 AM
Hé could be my fucking grandma, if you dont realize what we're trying to do, I'll give you the proper treatment
Pineapples18-Aug-21 10:44 AM
Yeah, his immediate response seemed like he was going to be a pain about it, but he's being pretty good about it now.
Stannic18-Aug-21 10:44 AM
yeah
Distoibed18-Aug-21 10:46 AM
I keep it simple, I clean up the poo, but if you keep shitting on the floor, I know how to keep my floor poo clean
Brainy18-Aug-21 10:46 AM
Thanks for all the help guys
Pineapples18-Aug-21 10:47 AM
Thanks for bringing it up. Silently deleting that stuff wouldn't have solved much. You would've been stuck checking every image in the channel forever.
Which I guess we're still stuck doing, but at least now it won't be one person.
Yeah, I wouldn't have thought anything outside of actual children could be a legal problem. Just something to get banned over.
Dal29018-Aug-21 10:48 AM
I have mixed feelings on the matter but I have been concerned about shop, he has flooded the place with similiar imagery
Stannic18-Aug-21 10:49 AM
Yeah
and I stopped visiting those channels and let your mods deal with it
Distoibed18-Aug-21 10:49 AM
Idk him that well, but my first and last interaction with him had been very different
Has
Stannic18-Aug-21 10:49 AM
same
first time i met him he was chill and whatnot but he was also wasted from 2 handles of everclear
Distoibed18-Aug-21 10:50 AM
Used to be silent background asian
Dal29018-Aug-21 10:50 AM
He has a very intense personality, shy and withheld but comes out strong because of alcohol he has some kind of medical problems and a lot of debt because of it
Stannic18-Aug-21 10:50 AM
yep
and he gets into a lot of unfortunate incidents
like unknowingly inhaling fumes of some kind that i nicknamed him the ghost of auschwitz
because i think that led him to the hospital
Dal29018-Aug-21 10:52 AM
From what I am aware his luck on living might be running out so I let him slide on some things, the walls of cunny are concerning however(edited)
Stannic18-Aug-21 10:52 AM
well if anything just deprive him of that
because all it takes is one person
Pineapples18-Aug-21 10:53 AM
Oh man, just looked through the nsfw channel in workshop... one of those in particular is a big yikes.
Stannic18-Aug-21 10:53 AM
yeah
they do have lexicus
he'd clean that stuff up quick or nuke it
Brainy18-Aug-21 10:55 AM
More specifically the statements / conversations being a huge one.(edited)
Pineapples18-Aug-21 10:56 AM
Might wanna keep an eye out for that stuff and make it clear that that's a big part of it.
Brainy18-Aug-21 10:56 AM
It's the sort of thing where you know it when you see it, like the pics Pineapples and I saw earlier
Basically we can't have Cakey-tier commentary / discussion happening in these contexts
Pineapples18-Aug-21 10:57 AM
It's a shame no one else can see what was deleted. Could help make it clearer what can't be posted.
Dal29018-Aug-21 10:57 AM
I think
Common sense will prevail on this matter
1
People know what would get them blasted on 4chan
Pineapples18-Aug-21 10:58 AM
I dunno, people have struggled with that a lot in the past. Or known full well but posted shit that's over the line just to be a shitter.
Stannic18-Aug-21 10:59 AM
take image perms away
it'll fix people's issue with nsfw-chat when people start posting porn
so it's 2 birds one stone
Brainy18-Aug-21 10:59 AM
I like the image perms idea because if people are just on the edge of crossing that line, but not really, it's probably enough to get the message across.
Stannic18-Aug-21 11:00 AM
is it purge time
Brainy18-Aug-21 11:00 AM
We would want to tell them so they have some day. Could just be, "you've bee posting content in #nsfw-chat that isn't allowed on here."
No real context to it and not overtly sexual if it was just the image. But I think from the comments it's clear they know what they're doing lmao
Stannic18-Aug-21 11:02 AM
yeah
lol
like what pineapples said
I dunno, people have struggled with that a lot in the past. Or known full well but posted shit that's over the line just to be a shitter.
Brainy18-Aug-21 11:03 AM
I don't want to explain to them the finer details of why it was necessary
They don't need it either.
Should be enough that we're telling them not to and move on
Stannic18-Aug-21 11:04 AM
just be the giga chad and move in and delete and don't detail your posts and move on
Stannic
is it purge time
Pineapples18-Aug-21 11:06 AM
Hmm, maybe cunny should be a purge word for the bot? Though without it posting a response message.
Krial18-Aug-21 11:06 AM
Nah. Cunny is a meme word too
Brainy18-Aug-21 11:06 AM
I've seen it used in contexts involving characters that are reasonably not underage
As in developed characters
I feel like the context definitely matters though
Pineapples18-Aug-21 11:07 AM
Yeah, but the kind of shit that goes with it sometimes could be too far.
Stannic18-Aug-21 11:07 AM
yeah usually used with anyone that has flat chests and no hair down there
and other things
Brainy18-Aug-21 11:07 AM
Yeah it definitely can if it's clear/obvious they're talking about prepubescent in general
As in no deniability like in #nsfw-chat
Pineapples18-Aug-21 11:07 AM
And when someone posts "ooooooo child's belly so erotic!" there's really no justifying that.
Brainy18-Aug-21 11:07 AM
Yes, like that ^
If it's just a bunch of that then it's very clear / obvious / overt.
If I saw a bunch of back and forth like that, I'd report it.(edited)
Pineapples18-Aug-21 11:08 AM
We may know it's a joke, but Discord sure as hell isn't going to see it that way.
Brainy18-Aug-21 11:09 AM
The image he just posted, it's not what we're prohibiting.
It's just a stylized depiction of a character with no context.
- The breasts and butt on the character are developed like an adult.
- There's no overtly or obscenely graphic sexual context.
- There's nothing clear/obvious it's a minor, or artwork we'd prohibit.(edited)
Anyone else get any messages from Mizumi? He said something about a video, something about accidentally posting pictures from his phone in his pocket(?) while at work, then a picture of the Everclear bottle he was about to get fucked up on.
I don't really understand what he was going on about, but it seemed like he thought he was in a ton of trouble with a bunch of people and was trying to say he didn't mean to post anything in order to cover up whatever he did wrong.
Brainy19-Aug-21 03:29 AM
Yeah another mod (not sure if they want me to say) got the same messages and was sharing them with me.
I told them it's probably not a good idea to engage with Mizumi on the subject further.
Pineapples19-Aug-21 03:30 AM
I just told him I didn't really know what he was going on about but not to worry because he's not in any trouble.
Brainy19-Aug-21 04:38 AM
Also, just to be clear, I'm not talking about random picture of Mishe 3D model in Blender.
I'm talking about artistic depictions where age is clear/obvious (like prepubescent), beyond artistic style, and obscenely sexualized depiction/context.
As in it's undeniable when we see it and need to act on removing it or people posting it.(edited)
June19-Aug-21 04:41 AM
He's been sharing that stuff directly fully sober so he probably just sent that to you guys because he thought he was gonna get banned for it
Brainy19-Aug-21 04:41 AM
Yeah that's 100% why he sent it. That or worried he might get reported to Discord.
June19-Aug-21 04:42 AM
Yeah I just double checked
He just randomly sends me it mid convo
Pineapples19-Aug-21 04:42 AM
He seemed fine when we initially talked to him about it, so I'm wondering if he got super drunk later and started freaking out, thinking we were going to ban him and report him and shit.
June19-Aug-21 04:42 AM
Yeah
That sounds plausible
Brainy19-Aug-21 04:43 AM
But it's dangerous for us to even respond to it, because it's like we're condoning it (as individuals and/or a server), which is dangerous.
Just don't even risk responding to that line of discussion.
June19-Aug-21 04:43 AM
I don't respond to it
Brainy19-Aug-21 04:43 AM
Oh I know, I meant Pineapples.
June19-Aug-21 04:43 AM
It's not my thing
Oh
Brainy19-Aug-21 04:43 AM
He's trying to be nice, but it's a situation where it's actually dangerous to just be nice.
June19-Aug-21 04:44 AM
Yeah I see that
Pineapples19-Aug-21 04:44 AM
I barely responded. Just said I didn't know what he was even saying because it didn't make any sense and that he wasn't in any trouble with us.
Brainy19-Aug-21 04:44 AM
Also it's really irrelevant what our personal opinions are on the whole art debate itself. The laws are the laws for the platform as well as us.
Pineapples
I barely responded. Just said I didn't know what he was even saying because it didn't make any sense and that he wasn't in any trouble with us.
Brainy19-Aug-21 04:45 AM
Yeah that makes sense. I just don't want you or anyone getting into some discussion that's bad.
Brainy
Also it's really irrelevant what our personal opinions are on the whole art debate itself. The laws are the laws for the platform as well as us.
June19-Aug-21 04:45 AM
Yeah I just wanted to make that clear as an aside, I know someone in the mod team who is okay with it(edited)
Brainy19-Aug-21 04:46 AM
The Discord mod team you mean?
June19-Aug-21 04:46 AM
No ours
Brainy19-Aug-21 04:46 AM
I feel it's really contextual. The law looks at it that way too.
Pineapples19-Aug-21 04:46 AM
Probably a lot of people on the Discord mod team...
Brainy19-Aug-21 04:46 AM
As in it's really specific artistic depiction and/or statements/expression that cross the line.
June19-Aug-21 04:47 AM
Beat me to it pineapples
Yes
Brainy19-Aug-21 04:47 AM
Well they can hate me all they want. Ultimately it's best for the server (and everyone here) to do this.
Pineapples19-Aug-21 04:48 AM
It something we were already against anyway, just no one's been watching out for it in a long time.
Brainy19-Aug-21 04:49 AM
It's like I said, artistic debate doesn't matter. Even a relatively "grey area" depiction can still inspire discussion that transforms into something that would clearly need to be reported to NCMEC. It's just safer this way for everyone here. Whatever our opinions may be on artistic expression.(edited)
Pineapples19-Aug-21 04:49 AM
Also, not a whole lot posted in there today either. Dunno if things are just slow currently, but it seems really easy to look through once a day to check.
June19-Aug-21 04:50 AM
G2g
1
Brainy19-Aug-21 04:51 AM
If people like any area of this art, then they should want to enforce these guidelines, because it's how it's being shared/discussed that directly transforms it and results in laws that are stricter and harsher on artistic expression.
rainy i kinda want to talk about this shit because i feel like its going too far
because alot of people post about "cunny"
Brainy19-Aug-21 05:30 AM
It's not about what bothers me or what I do or do not agree with legally.
It's that we're taking risk because Discord does report this to NCMEC.
Eric19-Aug-21 05:31 AM
that isnt happening
same person and the same group of people get deleted multiple times
Black Lily19-Aug-21 05:31 AM
Discord probably isn't going to do that
Eric19-Aug-21 05:31 AM
all that im gathering is that you would report this to the NCMEC
do you know how many people would get investigated over this shit even though theyre just joking around
how many people your putting at risk over a drawing they know isnt real
everybody in this chat, aside from cakey as it seems, knows the very distinct clearcut definition between fiction and reality
are you really trying to put alot people's livelihoods at risk over fictional content after they are done consuming is most likely forgotten about
Brainy19-Aug-21 05:33 AM
I would never report to NCMEC, I'd report to Discord if something stood out to me.
Discord would then determine whether or not to report to NCMEC.
But you don't know how I would judge that.
Nor do you know how Discord would judge it, and that's the problem.
If you want to ignore my advice, that's up to you.
I'm telling you as someone who literally specialized in investigating and reporting cases to NCMEC, that people can cross the line, and we need to prevent it.(edited)
I've explained in detail how I would judge that and how I would expect Discord to judge that and why it's something serious.
Eric19-Aug-21 05:35 AM
and you saying that doesnt clear up any of my worries im trying to voice,
the tldr of that message and what youve said so far is "if i was going to report it heres my 300 page essay on how i would, why i would, and what will happen"
Brainy19-Aug-21 05:35 AM
Because if that's the rubric I would use, I guarantee you the Discord one isn't as nuanced.
That's the point I'm trying to get across to you.
Eric19-Aug-21 05:35 AM
discord doesnt moderate shit unless its put into their vision
and most schizoids in here dont really care about that because they know what type of shit it caused
Brainy19-Aug-21 05:36 AM
All it takes to put it into their vision is someone like this getting reported.
When that person is reported, they investigate the user's history.
It doesn't need to be anything on here that gets them reported.
But if they're posting it consistently here, they're likely to be posting it consistently elsewhere.
Which is how they get reported.
Eric19-Aug-21 05:36 AM
i can safely say, after a few months of this being up this isnt getting taken down
they dont check more than what is sent to them
Brainy19-Aug-21 05:37 AM
That's why I was warning Pineapples to be careful about what he says in DM.
Because we don't know what else that person may have posted here or elsehwere.
Eric19-Aug-21 05:37 AM
let me put it clearly
Brainy19-Aug-21 05:37 AM
We don't know if they've been banned for it in the past.(edited)
Eric19-Aug-21 05:37 AM
why are you making mizumi feel like hes a pedophile over this
Brainy19-Aug-21 05:37 AM
I haven't talked to Mizumi at all.
I have no written one word to Mizumi.
Eric19-Aug-21 05:37 AM
Brainy19-Aug-21 05:38 AM
Paraphrasing (in my own words):
Paraphrasing here. Not anywhere else. Not to Mizumi.(edited)
Eric19-Aug-21 05:38 AM
where did this come from
i would fucking hate for a person to feel this way
Brainy19-Aug-21 05:38 AM
If you scrolled up, it's what Mizumi wrote to multiple moderators.
Eric19-Aug-21 05:38 AM
my bad for assuming a bit hard
but like, im not understanding why would he say something like this
Brainy19-Aug-21 05:39 AM
I was paraphrasing in my own words.
Eric19-Aug-21 05:39 AM
and reading all this shit about NCMEC
i cannot understand why he would believe hes going to get branded as a pedo
Brainy19-Aug-21 05:40 AM
I don't know, but it doesn't change my opinion on what I'm writing here.
I honestly don't care about one person's feelings about being told not to post this shit.
Eric19-Aug-21 05:41 AM
that post is worrying in its own way
and a complete 180 from what you wrote
but even so
i see them delete the accounts and move on
Brainy19-Aug-21 05:43 AM
How would you know? ROFL
Please tell me.
Eric19-Aug-21 05:43 AM
and hes still around on YT
still kicking still thriving
Brainy19-Aug-21 05:43 AM
What makes you think they haven't been reported?
Eric19-Aug-21 05:44 AM
they have been reported because ive written the reports to discord
and watch their servers get deleted
atleast 3 times
Brainy19-Aug-21 05:44 AM
That doesn't mean they haven't been reported.
Also what country are they in?
Eric19-Aug-21 05:44 AM
iirc hes in the UK
but his group has 1 american whos still thriving as well
and nothing has happened to him other than account deletions
Brainy19-Aug-21 05:45 AM
I have no idea who he is or what he's posting.
But let's assume it would cross the line.
I don't know what that means.
There's multiple factors here I've already discussed at length.
But let's assume it was what crossed the line.
Just because he keeps making accounts that get deleted doesn't mean he hasn't been reported to NCMEC.
NCMEC works internationally and it's a complex organization.
There also needs to be enough information to identify a user.
Sometimes this can be done based on IP and device IDs alone.
Eric19-Aug-21 05:48 AM
i found this man's facebook i knew his full name before
Brainy19-Aug-21 05:48 AM
Sometimes people are using VPNs or making it difficult.
Eric19-Aug-21 05:48 AM
its not hard to figure his shit out
Brainy19-Aug-21 05:48 AM
If you're so sure he hasn't been reported to NCMEC, then why don't you report him to NCMEC?
Eric19-Aug-21 05:48 AM
why would i ruin somebody's life over a drawing
Eric
why would i ruin somebody's life over a drawing
Brainy19-Aug-21 05:49 AM
You literally just said you reported him multiple times to Discord for it.
Eric19-Aug-21 05:49 AM
yeah i was young and retarded
reminder that im only 19
so that was years past being a retard
and i didnt even know about that organization
assume everything i mean is lewd in a way
because as i said before and i will keep saying, ive been through many reports to the same group of people and none of them have been reported to the NCMEC
Black Lily19-Aug-21 05:56 AM
I don't see why the NCMEC would care about anything that isn't actual children
Eric19-Aug-21 05:56 AM
why in the living fuck would NCMEC worry about drawings
its just fear mongering im hearing from you
Black Lily19-Aug-21 05:57 AM
Also imagine the media coverage if discord did report it
They'd fuck themselves
Black Lily
I don't see why the NCMEC would care about anything that isn't actual children
Brainy19-Aug-21 05:58 AM
They care because there's a point when it's highly suspicious and likely the person is collecting / sharing imagery of real children.
The other reason they care is the goal is to prevent actual child predation.
This is why I say the response to these images and the discussion surrounding it is so dangerous.
Mumu from NYC19-Aug-21 05:58 AM
why is this suddenly a issue tho
Eric19-Aug-21 05:58 AM
nobody is sharing imagery of real children
no one
Eric
nobody is sharing imagery of real children
Brainy19-Aug-21 05:58 AM
It doesn't need to be real children to get reported to NCMEC.
It doesn't need to be real children to get the server nuked.
Eric19-Aug-21 05:58 AM
nobodys posted anything remote, i havent even seen those creepily close 3dcg shit posted or mentioned here
Brainy19-Aug-21 05:59 AM
Just the discussions themselves, without the images, resulting from the images, can be enough.
Mumu from NYC19-Aug-21 05:59 AM
there are official game discord servers where the alternate art for a character is a literal child with a normal and damaged variant with literal a pixel covering naughty bits
Eric
nobody is sharing imagery of real children
Black Lily19-Aug-21 05:59 AM
If they did I'd ban them without question
Eric19-Aug-21 05:59 AM
any and everyone would(edited)
Mumu from NYC
why is this suddenly a issue tho
Brainy19-Aug-21 05:59 AM
There were many images posted by Mizumi recently and Pineapples can vouch for me as to how clear/obvious they were in the depiction.
Eric19-Aug-21 05:59 AM
are they still up
so i can take a look
Mumu from NYC
there are official game discord servers where the alternate art for a character is a literal child with a normal and damaged variant with literal a pixel covering naughty bits
Brainy19-Aug-21 06:00 AM
That's nothing like what we're describing here.
Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.
Brainy19-Aug-21 06:00 AM
That's not what I'm saying at all if you actually read the descriptions I provided earlier at length.
Eric19-Aug-21 06:02 AM
looking at mizumi posts
almost nothing he posted resembles a child
almost all of them are just tiny women
this still makes me question, why even bring up that fact
why are you telling us about the NCMEC investigations
Brainy19-Aug-21 06:04 AM
Discord does not care about the life circumstances of users they report to NCMEC.
Discord does not care about how we value users they may report to NCMEC.
Discord does not care about our rationale tolerating users they may report to NCMEC.
At the end of the day, it's a misconception that obscenely graphic sexual depictions of clearly prepubescent minors are legal in the US. People have been prosecuted and convicted for merely collecting/storing (not even sharing) this material, including a government employee recently.
There is no circumstance that justifies community sharing of this content or sexualized discussions about being attracted to it.
Also, just to be clear, I'm not talking about random picture of Mishe 3D model in Blender.
I'm talking about artistic depictions where age is clear/obvious (like prepubescent), beyond artistic style, and obscenely sexualized depiction/context. As in it's undeniable when we see it and need to act on removing it or people posting it.
Eric19-Aug-21 06:04 AM
i hate to be that guy, but this is probably the picture that offended you. i dont see anything that resembles a minor other than the fact that shes like 2 feet tall
SPOILER
as a person who has so many siblings, so goddamn many
this does NOT resemble a little girl
if anything a midget
Eric
looking at mizumi posts
Brainy19-Aug-21 06:05 AM
Pineapples and I deleted them.
It's not like we'd warn them and just leave the material up.
Eric19-Aug-21 06:06 AM
i hoped you saved something so id know what you guys were referring to
because judging from his posts none of it is even close
Eric
why are you telling us about the NCMEC investigations
Brainy19-Aug-21 06:06 AM
Because I don't want to see the server getting nuked or us getting reported for deleting material that very obviously crosses the line, while keeping the users here, and essentially enabling them to continue sharing / posting it here, which is us risking getting reported at that point.
Eric
i hoped you saved something so id know what you guys were referring to
Brainy19-Aug-21 06:08 AM
Why don't you ask @Pineapples then
You said yourself, you reported someone multiple times who had their server nuked and account deleted.
All it takes is one person doing the same here and Discord seeing there's a history of that user being here posting this material, people reacting to it in a way that crosses the line, and us doing nothing about it.
Black Lily19-Aug-21 06:11 AM
@Eric you can check the gilded sever most of his stuff is in there
Eric19-Aug-21 06:11 AM
im looking
Brainy19-Aug-21 06:12 AM
Also it's more than just the images themselves. It's also the reactions and responses from people.
this looks EXTREMELY and tries to be EXACTLY like a child
Brainy19-Aug-21 06:13 AM
I don't know which images you're referring to, but none of the ones you've provided as examples here were the images I was referring to.
Eric19-Aug-21 06:13 AM
this was posted in the threads not to long ago
Brainy19-Aug-21 06:14 AM
Also, just to be clear, I'm not talking about random picture of Mishe 3D model in Blender.
I'm talking about artistic depictions where age is clear/obvious (like prepubescent), beyond artistic style, and obscenely sexualized depiction/context. As in it's undeniable when we see it and need to act on removing it or people posting it.
It also inspires discussions that can cross the line into sexualization of children in any context. All of these factors are why tolerating it, not removing or punishing it, can cross into enabling it, and then we're operating a server for people known to us to be engaging in sharing of material and discussion blatantly sexualizing minors.
(edited)
Eric19-Aug-21 06:14 AM
im assuming its close to this
SPOILER
Brainy19-Aug-21 06:14 AM
It was more explicit than that
Eric19-Aug-21 06:15 AM
idk how more explicit you get other than putting a dick in her
Brainy19-Aug-21 06:15 AM
I'm talking about artistic depictions where age is clear/obvious (like prepubescent), beyond artistic style, and obscenely sexualized depiction/context. As in it's undeniable when we see it and need to act on removing it or people posting it.
(edited)
Eric19-Aug-21 06:16 AM
i cant believe he posted that looking at the shit hes already posted
and especially after you 180'd his post about being depressed and in a hard place
Pineapples19-Aug-21 06:17 AM
It was more extreme stuff than anything still there.
But it can't just be left there, so unfortunately others can't see later.
One of them had a couple of those shotas from kancolle, I think. They looked maybe 12 at best and it was pretty damn explicit.
Eric19-Aug-21 06:19 AM
are you talking about the one arrow uses as an avatar?
i dont know boats
Pineapples19-Aug-21 06:20 AM
Yeah, pretty sure that was one of them.
Neither do I much, just seen them around, unfortunately.
Eric19-Aug-21 06:20 AM
the yup, i def cant believe that then
not saying because he doesnt post shota or what not. but i feel like you overreacted
Pineapples19-Aug-21 06:21 AM
They were clearly underage, no misinterpreting it.
5,000 years old.
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Eric19-Aug-21 06:21 AM
lets just leave this because we are just gonna shitfling and hold on to our guns because we clearly are on 2 sides(edited)
Brainy19-Aug-21 06:22 AM
They always are lmao
Pineapples19-Aug-21 06:22 AM
No amount of mental gymnastics gets around the fact that if Discord ever saw it, they'd see children getting fucked and shit.
Eric19-Aug-21 06:22 AM
but back to my main point.
just stop trying to fear monger us into deleting cunnyposting over "NCMEC investigations" because to me. the only threat that would report it to them is you, rainy
i can understand wanting to delete it because risking server deletion. but i do not like how you guys gymnastics over age of fiction characters and then calling mizumi a pedophile over drawings
being a 500000000000000 yr old character doesnt change anything imo
but it shouldnt even matter its a drawing that isnt even close to resembling a child
Pineapples19-Aug-21 06:26 AM
It's not likely to happen, sure, but it's a possibility. And the risks go beyond just bans.
Eric19-Aug-21 06:26 AM
i said you guys i didnt mean that
the only one who said that was rainy with his paraphrasing
my bad
Brainy19-Aug-21 06:27 AM
Because he said that.
Eric19-Aug-21 06:27 AM
that post is a cry for help over his irl situation
not a please dont call me a pedo
far from it
from brief discussions ive had with him and seeing what he usually posts
its a literal cry for help
Brainy19-Aug-21 06:31 AM
Mizumi:"To be genuinely honest I legit might have butt dialed shota if the post was today. I broke my phone case and have pulled it out of my pocket many times with gibberish in DMs or video call. However, I am an anxiety depressed riddled anon and given the dog piling I received in DMs, Discords, and now on people's Do-Not-Invite-To-Circle-List, I've quit the two jobs I had over the weekend and will enjoy the only stress relief I got."Mizumi:"Nah mate that break was fucked the boss demoted me for not being productive when I was 1/3rd staffed only to get phone and now a bunch of people calling me trash pedo and trying to punish something to this point I still don't know what [I] posted. I thought it was the video. Cars fucked, job's done, and now I'm gonna end up a scapegoat to avoid like Moub, so cheers, God knows I have the time now, I'll try to direct the state I'm in out of Discords."(edited)
Eric19-Aug-21 06:32 AM
its exactly what i fucking said
Brainy19-Aug-21 06:33 AM
You keep saying I called him a pedo, or shamed him, when I never even interacted with him.
I wasn't even the one who warned him.
Eric19-Aug-21 06:33 AM
even if you wasnt the person who warned him do you not read what hes typing
Brainy19-Aug-21 06:34 AM
Either way, whatever difficulties he's going through, it's not an excuse to post what he posted and then argue with us about being able to post it when he was asked to stop.
Eric
even if you wasnt the person who warned him do you not read what hes typing
Brainy19-Aug-21 06:34 AM
Literally has nothing to do with the present topic of discussion or the issue we're trying to address.
Pineapples19-Aug-21 06:35 AM
We just told him not to post that stuff and explained why. No one said anything bad about him or accused him of being a pedo. I don't know where he got that idea from.
Brainy19-Aug-21 06:35 AM
He does mention "Discords", plural.
Multiple times.
Eric19-Aug-21 06:35 AM
weird then but still that felt off
Brainy19-Aug-21 06:35 AM
Which again is why I say, we don't know what he's posting or doing elsewhere.
Eric19-Aug-21 06:35 AM
when he says discord its pretty obv he means this group
thats assuming too much but even so
ur right it has nothing to do with this, i brought it up because it was fucked up
Brainy19-Aug-21 06:36 AM
If it's anything like what we warned him for here, then it increases the likelihood of him getting reported.
Which only reinforces my point that we were correct to remove the content and warn him.
Eric19-Aug-21 06:36 AM
and what made me want to talk about this
we are going to go around in circles and im just going to leave it off on the paragraph i last typed(edited)
Eric
when he says discord its pretty obv he means this group
Brainy19-Aug-21 06:38 AM
When he repeatedly says "Discords", then I read that as multiple Discords, or splitcords. Same with him mentioning Do-Not-Invite-To-Circle-List, etc., which is not us, it's other people. Either way, this is irrelevant and I still stand by us removing this content and warning him against posting anything like it again.
His personal life problems are not an excuse for posting this content.
His personal life problems are not an excuse for initially refusing to stop posting the content.
His personal life problems are not our problem, quite frankly.
Eric19-Aug-21 06:39 AM
his personal life problems isnt the excuse. the posts are still cries for help, hes just not in the right place
Brainy19-Aug-21 06:40 AM
What bearing does his "cry for help" have to do with any of this though?
Eric19-Aug-21 06:40 AM
we are going to go around in circles and im just going to leave it off on the paragraph i last typed
we are going to go around in circles and im just going to leave it off on the paragraph i last typed
we are going to go around in circles and im just going to leave it off on the paragraph i last typed
just please shut up now
im just getting mad
no more
end the posts
Brainy19-Aug-21 06:40 AM
You're arguing it's wrong to remove this content, wrong to warn users from posting this content, and the justification is emotional, it's about how this person feels.
Which is unfortunate, but it has no bearing on the offense or the action.
It's just seeking pity while deflecting any responsibility for the behavior.
It shouldn't have any bearing on any decision to allow or disallow this material.
you dont like what he posts and obviously you dont like the guy
Black Lily19-Aug-21 06:43 AM
I was referring to what rainy was saying
Eric19-Aug-21 06:43 AM
wasnt talking to you lily if that was clear
but even so thats it for me
Black Lily19-Aug-21 06:44 AM
You guys take this shit a little too seriously
Eric19-Aug-21 06:44 AM
thats why i said something in the first place
talking about investigations and shit like that
its a fucking discord
Brainy19-Aug-21 06:44 AM
I'm not mocking him. I'm saying I consider "butt dialing shota" an excuse and the bringing up drinking heavily as another excuse. None of it is taking responsibility for what he did, it's the opposite, and I don't see why it has any relevance or bearing on the topic at hand.
It's my opinion that it's an excuse. But either way, I don't see how it's relevant.
The point is it shouldn't be posted, shared, discussed in the way it was.
Black Lily19-Aug-21 06:45 AM
Personally I would have just deleted what he posted and been done with it
As long as it's in #nsfw-chat or #nsfw-pics just delete it when you see it
Eric
you dont like what he posts and obviously you dont like the guy
Brainy19-Aug-21 06:46 AM
I literally do not even know the person and either way my opinion of them (and even what they DMed every mod to justify their actions) is irrelevant.
Black Lily19-Aug-21 06:46 AM
Publicly warning people brings too much attention to it
Brainy19-Aug-21 06:46 AM
What I don't like is risking being reported to NCMEC for enabling the kind of content he was posting.
It was multiple days of posts.
At some point, deleting it and doing nothing to stop it being shared, or the discussions happening surrounding it, is enabling it.
Black Lily19-Aug-21 06:47 AM
Then dm him
Brainy19-Aug-21 06:47 AM
I didn't feel comfortable doing that, which is why I brought it up here.
Black Lily
Then dm him
Brainy19-Aug-21 06:47 AM
I brought it up here and it resulted in him being warned.
Not by me.
This DM sent to multiple mods was the result.
What I'm saying is I don't think people's excuses for why they post this material, or say things that cross the line about it, should influence how we moderate against it.
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If it needs to be removed, then it needs to be removed, period, and someone shouldn't be told being drunk is an excuse for that behavior over multiple days, because it just sends the message they can use that excuse again days from now.
Black Lily19-Aug-21 06:52 AM
But it doesn't matter
Don't go after the cunny meme
And relax a bit because you've been talking in circles all night
i can understand wanting to delete it because risking server deletion.
Glad we are in agreement.
but i do not like how you guys gymnastics over age of fiction characters
None of our opinions (yours, mine) on the age of fictional characters matters.
All that matters is the artwork clearly/obviously depicts prepubescents in obscenely explicit sexualized contexts and inspires similarly inappropriate discussion of minors in those contexts. This risks the server being deleted and/or any of us being reported to NCMEC if we appear to be tolerating this content and operating the server to share it.
Since you agree this does make the content worth acting upon, then discussion around age of characters is also redundant.
Neither Discord nor NCMEC care that the age of the character on a Wiki is 5,000-years-old if the character clearly/obviously appears 5.
Neither Pineapples or I have shared our personal opinions on this type of artwork, outside of what art and discussion we think needs to be acted on, and why.
and then calling mizumi a pedophile over drawings
None of us called Mizumi anything. But you keep accusing us of doing that, and act like it influenced our decision in some way, when it did not. I do not know Mizumi, I have never spoken to Mizumi, and my recommendation to act in this situation was based purely on what I was seeing Mizumi post.(edited)
🔇19-Aug-21 10:27 AM
Distoibed19-Aug-21 11:17 AM
@Brainy i did call him a pedo indirectly
@Mizumi tone it down with the genuine pedo stuff, post it in the mahjong discord or something, heard they like that
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<319-Aug-21 12:02 PM
Does tiaga count she 18 by the end of the show
Shes just small(edited)
Neither does short
Stannic19-Aug-21 12:16 PM
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Stannic19-Aug-21 12:16 PM
ur ghey
but yeah it's hard to know if some things are pedo or not
which is why i threatened comfy that we can go full aussie mode if they wanna start shit
🔇19-Aug-21 12:17 PM
This whole argument is dumb.
ToddBotBOT19-Aug-21 12:17 PM
Stannic19-Aug-21 12:17 PM
yes it is
🔇19-Aug-21 12:17 PM
See bad things? Clean it up. Simple as
Stannic19-Aug-21 12:17 PM
yeah that's what i've been doing
🔇19-Aug-21 12:17 PM
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Stannic19-Aug-21 12:17 PM
if it's like jailbait or something i can't distinguish
i leave it up to someone else to judge that
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<319-Aug-21 12:18 PM
i mean ye i delete thing that look like toddlers
ToddBotBOT19-Aug-21 12:18 PM
🔇19-Aug-21 12:18 PM
Only time it needs to be warned against is if it’s somewhere it shouldn’t be.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<319-Aug-21 12:18 PM
but kancolle destroyers
imo are fine
if it looks younger than that i delete it
Stannic19-Aug-21 12:19 PM
otherwise i let someone else be the judge of that because i ain't going through mental gymnastics to determine if that boat thing is 16 or 18
June19-Aug-21 12:49 PM
I'd be careful about talking forever on this shit
rainy just wants agreement on warning when its posting too much, and just deleting rest of the time
this isnt something we can just ignore, because it is one of the legal triggers someone can report our server for
they only have to see 1 cunny image to delete and ban
just dont post that stuff here
Stannic19-Aug-21 12:51 PM
yeah and we already got a lot of schizos
June19-Aug-21 12:51 PM
we dont get to define what "cunny" is either
its not our definition
Stannic19-Aug-21 12:52 PM
yeah and this ain't 4chan
it's discord so we play by their rules
Perrine19-Aug-21 01:06 PM
Honestly just set nsfw pics to delete every post older than x date at this rate
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3
Does tiaga count she 18 by the end of the show
Distoibed19-Aug-21 02:08 PM
Small stature, no tits
No ass
Child environment
No clothes
Distoibed
Small stature, no tits
No ass
Child environment
No clothes
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<319-Aug-21 02:21 PM
but shes married at the end
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3
but shes married at the end
Distoibed19-Aug-21 02:22 PM
Discord doesn't care about her status
Brainy19-Aug-21 03:30 PM
I just woke up but what they care about is how the characters in the art are being presented and also what people are saying in response to them.(edited)
Brainy19-Aug-21 03:37 PM
It's not something we can just delete and ignore like slurs either. It's more complex than that. If we know someone is consistently posting these images, sharing these comments, engaging in these discussions, we're enabling them to use this server for that purpose by not putting a stop to it immediately, or allowing it to consistently happen with those users.(edited)
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<319-Aug-21 03:43 PM
Brainy19-Aug-21 03:45 PM
I mean you're literally asking me about it
When I'm out of bed I'll.make it shorter
Once I'm.on PC
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<319-Aug-21 03:46 PM
every time i check this you are just posting in circles
Brainy19-Aug-21 03:47 PM
Because people like you keep asking about it?
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<319-Aug-21 03:47 PM
as long as we delete egregious shit and just chill it will be fine if the server gets nuked it gets nuked it will be back up in a day
Brainy19-Aug-21 03:48 PM
It won't and that's why this recursive argument keeps happening because you have very dangerous assumptions about how this is handled when the nature of how the expression is happening on here is complex.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<319-Aug-21 03:48 PM
what
Brainy19-Aug-21 03:48 PM
So is how it's evaluated when reported.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<319-Aug-21 03:50 PM
we dont need to fully abide by tos
if it gets taken down a new one gets built
like i said delete bad shit and get rid of actual pedos not that hard
Brainy19-Aug-21 03:51 PM
Many people could get judged in a context / spectrum they don't belong to there if it gets reported.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<319-Aug-21 03:52 PM
its a discord server its not nearly as big of a deal as you think it is
Brainy19-Aug-21 03:52 PM
It's not that I don't hear you guys on the fact it's art in most cases, or harmless in some cases.
It is though
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<319-Aug-21 03:52 PM
how
Brainy19-Aug-21 03:53 PM
Because despite what you think, they do report people to NCMEC when it crosses a certain line and if they see this is all coming from our server and people who consistently contributed or gave rise to these discussions on our server, it appears we've been operating the server for that purpose.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<319-Aug-21 03:54 PM
is there anything illegal posted
Brainy19-Aug-21 03:54 PM
It's not like slurs or anything like that. We're talking about the type of people they report to NCMEC.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<319-Aug-21 03:54 PM
if its not illegal then there is nothing they can do about it
3d kids is illegal
and yes that needs to be dealth with
Brainy19-Aug-21 03:55 PM
Yes, as I've been saying, it can easily cross into what they have a legal obligation to report to NCMEC and people are prosecuted for it despite what you all think here.
Abroad and within the US.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<319-Aug-21 03:55 PM
pedos should be removed from the community
there is nothing in here illegal
Brainy19-Aug-21 03:56 PM
There are valid reasons for reporting it to NCMEC and those reasons essentially boil down to suspicion
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<319-Aug-21 03:57 PM
there are not though theres no pedo shit in here and we are 18 plus
you do this for free this is not a job and you should not make it one
if you see something bad delete it, if someone is consistently being bad talk to them about it, if it continues being a problem remove them
its very simple
Mumu from NYC19-Aug-21 04:00 PM
why is this still being blown out of proportion
what mai said
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<319-Aug-21 04:00 PM
exactly it is a discord server
if you are gonna schizo this hard about this. It probably is not the community for you
if you are going to go on about shit that could get you in trouble i'd focus more on people like carl saying he wants to kill everyone who made him suffer than joking about cunny(edited)
Brainy19-Aug-21 04:05 PM
I'm not shizoing. What's schizo is to think people like this could not be doing anything here, or even on other servers, that could result in them being reported and that Discord wouldn't deep dive into every community they've been posting in.
When you report to NCMEC you literally gather all evidence about the communications being sent by the person.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<319-Aug-21 04:07 PM
the investgation doesnt to lead to anything illegal going on here though
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3
the investgation doesnt to lead to anything illegal going on here though
Brainy19-Aug-21 04:07 PM
It does if these users are consistently engaging in the sharing of material and discussions I've defined here many times that we need to act on and have a zero tolerance policy on.
That's a very generalized statement and I'm honestly sick of explaining the nuances to people who are unfamiliar with the laws or the processes involved with complying with the laws surrounding this in both the USA or abroad. Read what has been discussed on this topic over the last two days now.(edited)
Black Lily19-Aug-21 04:08 PM
Hamburger
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<319-Aug-21 04:09 PM
everyone is tired of hearing you explain it aswell
Brainy19-Aug-21 04:09 PM
Then why are you directly asking about it?
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<319-Aug-21 04:09 PM
i was not
i never asked is it illegal
Brainy19-Aug-21 04:10 PM
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<319-Aug-21 04:10 PM
still have not had that answered
Perrine19-Aug-21 04:10 PM
if discord thinks it's illicit, they'll slam you no matter what canonical age or body features a character has.
so according to discord, taiga is illicit
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<319-Aug-21 04:10 PM
and thats why we shouldnt care(edited)
Brainy19-Aug-21 04:11 PM
Literally I was responding to you about this specific question and you tear into me about being "schizo" defining what needs to be removed and why when you start arguing against it.
I did answer it, but you just argued with me about it, then said I'm engaging in a recursive argument and being schizo when I explain it.(edited)
Black Lily19-Aug-21 04:12 PM
People are significantly less likely to listen to you if every post you make is a paragraph
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<319-Aug-21 04:12 PM
i was trying to make a point that we should focus on shit that is actually bad, and stuff like that not care because no matter what we do we cant stay 100 percent inside tos
a nuke a year is fine
Brainy19-Aug-21 04:14 PM
I'm sorry that, when you ask me to explain the nuances of it, I can't explain it in a single sentence as you actively interrupt and argue with me.
I'm sorry that, when you ask me to explain when something crosses the line enough to be reported, I can't explain it in a single scenario, when it involves multiple.
I've said countless times, it's not just images, it's sometimes the what people are saying in a channel we have designated for sexual images and sexual discussion.(edited)
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3
i was trying to make a point that we should focus on shit that is actually bad, and stuff like that not care because no matter what we do we cant stay 100 percent inside tos
Brainy19-Aug-21 04:17 PM
It's more than staying within TOS. It's about not wanting to see anyone in this community misjudged or reported for sexualizing children online.
The same goes for not wanting to see anyone involved in moderating this community reported for operating a community with channels devoted to sexualization of children.(edited)
When I say reported, I mean reported to NCMEC, then reported to authorities in other countries.
If not the US itself, which does investigate and in some cases prosecute this.
People do get reported for this, in addition to the type of messages Cakey allegedly posted, because it can often result in real predation.
We're responsible for what people post here if we're allowing them to consistently keep posting it here.
Just deleting it after X hours isn't going to cut it in this situation because we're talking about shit there are laws around reporting.
Perrine19-Aug-21 04:24 PM
Careful, you're about to reason yourself into Roko's Basilisk
It's not something we can just delete and ignore like slurs either. It's more complex than that. If we know someone is consistently posting these images, sharing these comments, engaging in these discussions, we're enabling them to use this server for that purpose by not putting a stop to it immediately, or allowing it to consistently happen with those users. (edited)
June19-Aug-21 04:31 PM
yeah warn them and tell them to stop, basically no cunny posting is what your asking for - because just being passive could also get us in trouble
June
yeah warn them and tell them to stop, basically no cunny posting is what your asking for - because just being passive could also get us in trouble
Brainy19-Aug-21 04:34 PM
Yes.
And if people have questions about the nuances... there's literally 2 days of discussion on this topic.
If you need to call my "schizo", accuse me of "shaming" people, mock me for answer questions about it, I honestly don't give a fuck.
As long as we actually address the posts/users in a way that isn't enabling and passively allowing it.
June19-Aug-21 04:47 PM
just tell people to knock it off and delete it if you see legit cunny posting, use your judgement what discord would say - I dont want to discus another week on this
the end?
Eric19-Aug-21 04:48 PM
meeps comment is the end of this
we should of just ended with the argument we had
June19-Aug-21 04:49 PM
no, meeps comment is not good enough
Distoibed19-Aug-21 04:49 PM
it's good enough when the end satisfied my agenda
Eric19-Aug-21 04:49 PM
how much more do you need
June19-Aug-21 04:49 PM
we actually are legally required - which is why rainy is being so vocal about it
I'm done dude
Eric19-Aug-21 04:49 PM
if we are legally required im about to legally leave
June19-Aug-21 04:49 PM
dude yeah
Eric19-Aug-21 04:50 PM
im not doing it for free and getting this riled up over it
Distoibed19-Aug-21 04:50 PM
June19-Aug-21 04:50 PM
its why I hate moderation
.(edited)
Distoibed19-Aug-21 04:51 PM
I keep it simple
if I see people posting cunny
I blast them and put them on blast
Stannic19-Aug-21 04:51 PM
based
Eric19-Aug-21 04:51 PM
as long as ur not screaming pedo idc
do whatever
Distoibed19-Aug-21 04:51 PM
I will call them child diddlers
Meeps19-Aug-21 04:51 PM
I might be confused on something. we're legally required to report something we see that isn't even illegal where we live? report to who?
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Eric19-Aug-21 04:52 PM
i never heard of this organization until this week
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<319-Aug-21 04:52 PM
same
June19-Aug-21 04:52 PM
yah, which is why I was hopping it never was brought up
Eric19-Aug-21 04:52 PM
and even so, fictional children dont fucking exist
June19-Aug-21 04:53 PM
it has nothing to do with local legality, which is what rainy is saying in those posts
Meeps19-Aug-21 04:53 PM
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<319-Aug-21 04:53 PM
you can not be prosecuted from something legal
June19-Aug-21 04:54 PM
its why shes getting frustrated with saying the same shit over and over
Eric19-Aug-21 04:55 PM
before we get back into a circle again
just end with meeps comment
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Brainy19-Aug-21 04:55 PM
"Discord doesn't report this content to NCMEC."
"The US doesn't investigate/prosecute cases of this content reported to NCMEC."
"I know better than you, who worked a job reporting complex cases of this content to NCMEC."
"Hey guys, never heard of NCMEC until this week."(edited)
Eric19-Aug-21 04:55 PM
what more does there be to be sent(edited)
Brainy19-Aug-21 04:55 PM
So yeah, I'm frustrated.
Especially since I'm making a goodfaith effort to inform and discuss this with you guys.
Distoibed19-Aug-21 04:56 PM
National Center for Missing & Exploited Children
Brainy19-Aug-21 04:56 PM
Instead I get attacked and ridiculed for telling you what they laws are.
Brainy
Instead I get attacked and ridiculed for telling you what they laws are.
Distoibed19-Aug-21 04:57 PM
I don't think any1 here CBA to report anything to officials, we're literally here just to keep this server up for another day
Meeps19-Aug-21 04:57 PM
if people have actual child porn then they should be punished
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June19-Aug-21 04:57 PM
which I know a few users here who have it
its not our definition, its theirs
Meeps
if people have actual child porn then they should be punished
Brainy19-Aug-21 04:57 PM
What do you think tips them off to investigating if someone is collecting / sharing actual CSAM?
Eric19-Aug-21 04:58 PM
no children are being exploited
if you think some bait account is going to cause an investigstion of a whole group
you are telling us how stupid the ncmec is already
June19-Aug-21 04:58 PM
its literally got our server banned 3 times
Meeps19-Aug-21 04:58 PM
is there actually a law that can be pointed to that says i'm legally obligated to report that i saw drawn pictures of young girls in a discord server?
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<319-Aug-21 04:59 PM
if someone has actual csam i hope they get bapped by the feds
Eric19-Aug-21 04:59 PM
discord usually gets the account unless you can prove its the whole server
Eric
no children are being exploited
if you think some bait account is going to cause an investigstion of a whole group
Brainy19-Aug-21 04:59 PM
The last child protection conference I attended literally was all about VR and VR communities giving rise to exploitation (especially self-exploitation).
This is a community minors have (and do) try to get into.
There's sexual shit at meetups.
There's a channel devoted to sharing sexual imagery / discussion.
Eric19-Aug-21 04:59 PM
1 with a clear solution, 1 without
Brainy19-Aug-21 05:00 PM
I don't know why you guys think all this shit together is not dangerous for us to appear to not be moderating against actively.
Meeps19-Aug-21 05:00 PM
we are
it gets deleted
Brainy19-Aug-21 05:00 PM
I was deleting Mizumi's posts for days too.
Dal29019-Aug-21 05:01 PM
June19-Aug-21 05:01 PM
actually none of those are in the word filter
Brainy19-Aug-21 05:01 PM
But the problem is it gets to a point where we're enabling an environment to share that material.
June19-Aug-21 05:01 PM
would you like them?
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<319-Aug-21 05:01 PM
this is going nowhere i am done with this convo
Eric19-Aug-21 05:01 PM
please do not ban cunny discussion
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3
this is going nowhere i am done with this convo
Stannic19-Aug-21 05:01 PM
get in vr
Eric19-Aug-21 05:01 PM
this is a 4chan server thats not going to stop
Stannic19-Aug-21 05:01 PM
June19-Aug-21 05:01 PM
you already know the outcome which is why you want a out
Brainy19-Aug-21 05:01 PM
Which is why I brought this up originally. Just passive deletion after 24 hours is not enough in this case.
Meeps19-Aug-21 05:02 PM
is there actually a law that can be pointed to that says i'm legally obligated to report that i saw drawn pictures of young girls in a discord server?
Stannic
get in vr
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<319-Aug-21 05:02 PM
need to charge my shit i can desktop for a bit
Eric19-Aug-21 05:02 PM
just stop the argument
just leave it as is
im tired of this
i literally got mad
went to play vidya at 5am
go to sleep
wake up and we are still on something so FUCKING simple
Dal29019-Aug-21 05:02 PM
Just cut the discussion ez
Eric19-Aug-21 05:03 PM
just delete cunny when you see it, dont make a big deal out of it
over
no children are being exploited
stop trying to escalate it
no legal boogieman is coming to investigate us for not being super serious with it
the only way it will, is if one of us reports it ourselves
the end
Black Lily19-Aug-21 05:04 PM
If you start publicly cracking down on it and mention the organization then you'll guarentee that we get reported for it
1
Eric19-Aug-21 05:04 PM
exactly
Meeps19-Aug-21 05:04 PM
we have and will delete/ban/report/etc if there's child porn/child exploitation. this is not the case
1
June19-Aug-21 05:04 PM
yup, also beef, just walk away
you dont have to sperg about it
Eric19-Aug-21 05:04 PM
poking retards with something they shouldnt do, theyll do it
Dal29019-Aug-21 05:05 PM
We get deniability if we just flaccidly do things
Eric19-Aug-21 05:05 PM
@June this has been going on for about a wek
Meeps
we have and will delete/ban/report/etc if there's child porn/child exploitation. this is not the case
June19-Aug-21 05:05 PM
we're not discussing that
Black Lily19-Aug-21 05:05 PM
Shitters have reported us for racism because they know it can get us deleted
Eric
@June this has been going on for about a wek
June19-Aug-21 05:05 PM
yes, I know I was gone all week
Eric19-Aug-21 05:05 PM
almost anything we do here we could get deleted
but its not getting us sent to jail
June19-Aug-21 05:05 PM
been catching up on work and discord all day
June
been catching up on work and discord all day
Stannic19-Aug-21 05:07 PM
catch up on these bad code
June19-Aug-21 05:07 PM
catch up on these hands
✊
Stannic19-Aug-21 05:08 PM
jokes on you i'm behind 7 layers of hard drives
Black Lily19-Aug-21 05:08 PM
Looks good to me
June19-Aug-21 05:08 PM
I'm still trying to figure out how we resolve this and put it to bed @Brainy
Stannic19-Aug-21 05:08 PM
June19-Aug-21 05:09 PM
whats the absolute rashest way of doing that, like the never gonna happen way
ban all mentions of key words and delete all images? warn all people that post em?
Stannic19-Aug-21 05:09 PM
wouldn't that just rile them up and it'll be hell on us for a month
knowing what you guys have done in the past
June
I'm still trying to figure out how we resolve this and put it to bed @Brainy
Brainy19-Aug-21 05:10 PM
I mean you and Pineapples already did it's just people keep nitpicking and arguing about it here.
There's no winning and you'll just get accused like I was by B-EF of being glowie snitch or insulted and ridiculed at length for taking it seriously enough to explain.
June19-Aug-21 05:11 PM
yeah without consensus its not set in stone though
Distoibed19-Aug-21 05:11 PM
how to put it to bed:
-remove cunny posts
if you fight against it, I'll assume you play mahjong in vrc
you didn't need to make it official and write a thesis on why it's bad
and people who loophole it are just fucking around and know what they are getting into
June19-Aug-21 05:13 PM
no ofc not, just need everyone to agree on what, make sure no ones fefes are hurt and bury it
everyone at least agree with that?
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<319-Aug-21 05:15 PM
if it looks bad get rid of it
Distoibed
how to put it to bed:
-remove cunny posts
if you fight against it, I'll assume you play mahjong in vrc
Stannic19-Aug-21 05:16 PM
whats wrong with mahjong
Black Lily19-Aug-21 05:16 PM
Should we use Tiger's scale?
June19-Aug-21 05:16 PM
post it
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<319-Aug-21 05:17 PM
yes
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Stannic19-Aug-21 05:17 PM
June19-Aug-21 05:17 PM
lets not bring that up yet
no shitflinging towards majong rn
Black Lily19-Aug-21 05:17 PM
Don't mention the NCMEC ever
Is it because they keep letting children join?
Stannic19-Aug-21 05:18 PM
June19-Aug-21 05:18 PM
that escalation fine?
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<319-Aug-21 05:19 PM
i say we start with deleting europe
Black Lily
Is it because they keep letting children join?
Distoibed19-Aug-21 05:19 PM
childeren join mahjong,
regulars want to coom
can't say "no" to kid
kid joins
Stannic19-Aug-21 05:19 PM
AND THEN YOU CLOSE YOUR EYES
IT FEELS LIKE NOTHING CHANGED AT ALL
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Black Lily19-Aug-21 05:19 PM
Ye
Meeps19-Aug-21 05:20 PM
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June19-Aug-21 05:21 PM
@Brainy
any changes you need?
Stannic19-Aug-21 05:23 PM
yes give me the power trip stick of impunity
Stannic
yes give me the power trip stick of impunity
Distoibed19-Aug-21 05:23 PM
people have already power tripped with your exact powerlvl
Distoibed
people have already power tripped with your exact powerlvl
Given I was really drunk when I did it. But it’s still fine lol
Black Lily19-Aug-21 06:06 PM
I'm fine with it
Dal29019-Aug-21 06:06 PM
GROMMET JANNIE LETS GOOOOOO
Mumu from NYC19-Aug-21 06:15 PM
I can't believe grommet is alive bro
./a.out19-Aug-21 06:17 PM
Hello @Grommet , long time no see
Grommet19-Aug-21 06:17 PM
Ah yes
Poomis
Was I pronounced dead? @Mumu from NYC
Grommet
Poomis
./a.out19-Aug-21 06:34 PM
Poonis*
Grommet19-Aug-21 06:34 PM
I meant to say poomis
./a.out19-Aug-21 06:34 PM
how fucking dare you.
Grommet19-Aug-21 06:35 PM
Krial19-Aug-21 07:56 PM
Meat man
Distoibed
I don't think any1 here CBA to report anything to officials, we're literally here just to keep this server up for another day
Brainy19-Aug-21 07:59 PM
I just want to clarify, since multiple people are acting like I've said we need to report everyone in NSFW to Discord/NCMEC/INTERPOL/whatever the fuck...
The only time I mentioned reporting anyone was when we were discussing hearsay involving Cakey.
I said if there's ever a case where we witness someone openly making statements sexualizing minors they know IRL, then we should report it.
I said if anyone felt uncomfortable reporting in that scenario, I'd be able to do it.
All I've been saying is when images, especially reactionary statements to images, cross the line.
All I've been saying is why we can't just keep deleting and tolerating "Mizumi-style" posts (images or statements).
All I've been saying is how this can result in users (even us) getting reported by Discord to NCMEC for bearing some responsibility enabling it.
I just want to clarify, I've never been saying we need to report harmless people for posting harmless things in NSFW.
I just want to clarify, @Meeps@Eric specifically, that I never said we have a legal obligation to report anyone for anything harmless.
I really don't like being painted as someone trying to get people reported to NCMEC.
Especially when I'm trying to protect people from association to anything bad that could get reported to NCMEC.(edited)
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<319-Aug-21 08:15 PM
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Brainy19-Aug-21 08:24 PM
This looks fine, but I really think in future cases like Mizumi, we can't just give a slap on the wrist.
People need to know if it's really egregious/obscene, they're risking a ban, not a warning.
Art is subjective and some artistic examples earlier were harmless.
It's clearly sexual contexts involving clear children (obvious when prepubescent) we can't tolerate it.
This goes double for sexualized responses to images using words like "child".
Words like "cunny", we can probably treat contextually, it's got broad usage applied to adults.
1
Brainy
I just want to clarify, since multiple people are acting like I've said we need to report everyone in NSFW to Discord/NCMEC/INTERPOL/whatever the fuck...
The only time I mentioned reporting anyone was when we were discussing hearsay involving Cakey.
I said if there's ever a case where we witness someone openly making statements sexualizing minors they know IRL, then we should report it.
I said if anyone felt uncomfortable reporting in that scenario, I'd be able to do it.
All I've been saying is when images, especially reactionary statements to images, cross the line.
All I've been saying is why we can't just keep deleting and tolerating "Mizumi-style" posts (images or statements).
All I've been saying is how this can result in users (even us) getting reported by Discord to NCMEC for bearing some responsibility enabling it.
I just want to clarify, I've never been saying we need to report harmless people for posting harmless things in NSFW.
I just want to clarify, @Meeps@Eric specifically, that I never said we have a legal obligation to report anyone for anything harmless.
I really don't like being painted as someone trying to get people reported to NCMEC.
Especially when I'm trying to protect people from association to anything bad that could get reported to NCMEC. (edited)
Krial19-Aug-21 08:24 PM
I think at this point the overall topic has been labored to death and we have a good route to go forward. So let’s just drop it and move on to next issues. :p
Brainy19-Aug-21 08:25 PM
I was responding here because I was asked to in DMs by multiple people. @Krial(edited)
Krial19-Aug-21 08:25 PM
Such as how mad I am at myself for not buying this cowhide hip flask
Brainy19-Aug-21 08:25 PM
Otherwise I wasn't even participating here for the last 3 hours.
So I was specifically addressing what I was asked to address.
But like always, I'm asked to respond to something, or explain something, and then ridiculed for writing anything.
There's no winning, ever.
Krial19-Aug-21 08:27 PM
That’s cool, and I’m glad it was addressed. I’m not trying to ridicule you or anything. I’m just thinking the topic has been done to death, and at this point we’re just shit flinging each other.
Almost all of us included.
Brainy19-Aug-21 08:29 PM
Yeah I'm not referring to you, sorry.
I didn't mean to phrase it that way
I know you just want this to end already like me and everyone else lol
Distoibed20-Aug-21 02:02 PM
is it alright if I turn #announcements into jannie-blog and #deleted-channel into announcements?
Dal29020-Aug-21 02:08 PM
Like one for announcing VRChat updates or whatever?
Distoibed20-Aug-21 02:08 PM
anything that the people should actually give a fuck about
important stuff that doesn't concern a meme or a birthday
the channel should barely be utilized because it's for the stuff that most people should want to take a gander at
Krial20-Aug-21 02:25 PM
Is it updated enough to bother folks? I feel like there’s not too many issues atm but if people are complaining
🔇20-Aug-21 02:26 PM
People are always going to complain about anything.
Just tell them to suck a dick and learn how to scroll a little.
Or check it more than once a month
June20-Aug-21 02:26 PM
tell them to suck several dicks
🔇20-Aug-21 02:29 PM
Also those same people complaining, are probably the same people shitposting in feedback all the time.
Distoibed20-Aug-21 02:29 PM
guess that's a no then
Stannic20-Aug-21 02:46 PM
should i delete some irl images and doxxy stuff if it gets to that point? only if they're drunk or being dumb about it
🔇20-Aug-21 02:47 PM
Yes.
Stannic20-Aug-21 02:47 PM
okay
I deleted some stuff in nsfw chat but the military photos who posted doesn't seem bad
🔇20-Aug-21 02:47 PM
I usually do that anyways.
Stannic20-Aug-21 02:47 PM
Alrighty
Dal29020-Aug-21 04:02 PM
Think its a good idea to adopt the clean up things you shouldn't be revealing stuff on the regular
Stannic
should i delete some irl images and doxxy stuff if it gets to that point? only if they're drunk or being dumb about it
Brainy20-Aug-21 11:39 PM
Someone doxxing themselves while drunk? Damn
Stannic20-Aug-21 11:40 PM
no
Brainy20-Aug-21 11:40 PM
Oh were they intentionally doxxing someone?
🔇20-Aug-21 11:42 PM
It happens after irl meetups sometimes. People post irl photos from the meets.
Brainy21-Aug-21 12:20 AM
Oh yeah I hope people will respect each other's privacy
Not everyone wants to have their face put up
Guessing it's the Florida meet?
Krial21-Aug-21 01:11 AM
Yee if it was recent
Brainy
Oh yeah I hope people will respect each other's privacy
Stannic21-Aug-21 10:18 AM
they usually do but no one knows how sensitive or how easy it is to get access to some information if they spill out enough.
no one as far as i know is that dedicated enough to go full autism triangulate long/lat bullshit tier to figure out people's digital footprints and using the limited information to doxx someone but it's better to delete still
Stannic
no one as far as i know is that dedicated enough to go full autism triangulate long/lat bullshit tier to figure out people's digital footprints and using the limited information to doxx someone but it's better to delete still
Brainy21-Aug-21 10:22 AM
Yeah I 100% agree. Just out of respect for people here if nothing else.
I used to run a community with lots of bronies and 5 years later I was getting messages from them begging me to delete stuff they posted.
Stannic21-Aug-21 10:23 AM
Brainy21-Aug-21 10:24 AM
"People are Googling me and finding out I was a brony and I posted pictures of myself at cons buying Fluttershy pillows and clopmics plz help me."(edited)
Stannic21-Aug-21 10:24 AM
yeah
if people know just about the "search term here" in google's search bar
ezpz
you'll find people's digital footprint easily
Brainy21-Aug-21 10:26 AM
Yeah especially when most use the same username everywhere or try to
Stannic21-Aug-21 10:27 AM
yeah
Distoibed21-Aug-21 10:29 AM
Luckily everything I posted as a child has been on short lived gmod rp forums(edited)
Brainy21-Aug-21 10:30 AM
GMOD
Mine was a very popular TF2 community / forum
Old too so long after I left the scene I was still keeping it online
But because I got e-mails like that every month I deleted it
I didn't like that it was commonly being used to bully people
Distoibed21-Aug-21 10:32 AM
Howlong until it removes itself from the Google search results?
Brainy21-Aug-21 10:32 AM
No idea, I deleted it years ago
Maybe two years now?
But it was around for much longer
Stannic21-Aug-21 10:33 AM
never
Brainy21-Aug-21 10:33 AM
I want to say since like 2008?
I still own the last domain it was on and I actually put the stuff on it to remove it from Web Archive
Stannic21-Aug-21 10:33 AM
google caches everything efficiently, and their little algo has made it to where it's impossible to delete
Brainy21-Aug-21 10:34 AM
I might have done whatever their deletion thing was for that.
Stannic21-Aug-21 10:34 AM
so unless that website is absolutely removed that the only way is through a shitty cache they captured years ago, or archive.com it's there until that website dies
Brainy21-Aug-21 10:34 AM
If it was anything like Web Archive.
Basically there's a thing like a robots.txt you upload
Stannic21-Aug-21 10:34 AM
^
Brainy21-Aug-21 10:34 AM
The next time the crawler comes to the site, it knows to delete everything on it, because you're telling it to do that
I did that to get all the Web Archive for the site deleted.
Stannic21-Aug-21 10:35 AM
i think warez-bb back then used this
Brainy21-Aug-21 10:35 AM
The deletion thing for archive.com?
Stannic21-Aug-21 10:36 AM
that and google's cached results for warez-bb
Brainy21-Aug-21 10:36 AM
Oh another thing you can do is contact Archive.com directly. I actually told several people to do that
Because they were being harassed over stuff I had no control over (not on my site)
Stannic21-Aug-21 10:37 AM
warez-bb was a major pirating website that uploaded shit to direct download places like megaupload and rapidshare
Brainy21-Aug-21 10:37 AM
I vaguely remember the name warez-bb
Stannic21-Aug-21 10:37 AM
but a lot of their old shit before 2013 was wiped off
anything else on their other site is revived from an archive or old image
robots.txt did something
Brainy21-Aug-21 10:38 AM
Yeah I don't think it takes long for it to work
Stannic21-Aug-21 10:38 AM
so there's kind of ways to delete shit off google's search thing
if you have control of the site that is
otherwise you're SoL
Brainy21-Aug-21 10:39 AM
Yeah there's the robots.txt method (or whatever Google / Archive tell you to do) and then there's GDPR request. The other thing you can do is DMCA as a last resort.
Stannic21-Aug-21 10:39 AM
DMCA is gonna be one of those where you gotta hire a corrupt lawyer who knows his way around and fuck them over for large amounts of money
Brainy21-Aug-21 10:39 AM
When I was a Discord Partner I was always telling girls in there to go DMCA because there's a time limit
No, anyone can do it
Stannic21-Aug-21 10:39 AM
even then libel lawsuits are too long and too vague
Brainy21-Aug-21 10:39 AM
It's very simple to do
Stannic21-Aug-21 10:40 AM
oh
Brainy21-Aug-21 10:40 AM
Referring to when it's your own content
When I was a Discord Partner, there was always some big influencer chick desperate in there to get help from Discord Staff because she was being doxxed and/or having private pictures spread around
They would always tell them to just submit a ticket
Stannic21-Aug-21 10:41 AM
Brainy21-Aug-21 10:41 AM
I'd message every single one and explain the DMCA process and tell them to DMCA because then Discord Staff has to deal with it immediately.
I'd directly link them to the form too lmao
Stannic21-Aug-21 10:42 AM
lol
Brainy21-Aug-21 10:43 AM
If it was just submitted as a support ticket under harassment, Discord would get to it in Discord hours, so like days, weeks, months later.
But if they DMCA it's pretty immediate because it's a legal requirement to handle it quickly
I'd tell the girl to put the details of the harassment in with the DMCA
So the result was, it's acted on immediately due to DMCA, and the user / community can't counter-DMCA because it simultaneously gets hit with TOS violation like targeted harassment
Stannic21-Aug-21 10:44 AM
so hopefully we never have to get to that point
Brainy21-Aug-21 10:45 AM
Yeah, but if you ever do, now you know.
If you or anyone else ever has to deal with anything like that, feel free to message me, I'll help you navigate it
Perrine21-Aug-21 11:06 AM
Wait, explain again how you can DMCA harassment on discord?
Brainy21-Aug-21 11:22 AM
If it's your own pictures then you do DMCA
So if there's a person or server spreading your pics around, you DMCA, then include the details of there also being harassment.
Could also reference your case number of any support ticket you sent in on harassment beforeheand
They tend to act to remove the user / ban the account for the harassment because they don't want you to keep filing DMCAs about it
Krial21-Aug-21 02:56 PM
WHERE(edited)
IS
JACKBOT
@./a.out
./a.out21-Aug-21 02:57 PM
poonis
Hmm he appears to be dead
He's hosted on @🔇 's computer, so we'd have to check with him
I can turn him on on my computer in the meantime tho
🔇21-Aug-21 02:58 PM
Maid is still running, and it runs on the same pc.
Must have run into some weird error and crashed.
I’ll send info when I’m home if I can find it.
./a.out21-Aug-21 03:00 PM
Probably, he do be havin some bugs sometimes. But yea if the logs are still on the console shoot em over
🔇21-Aug-21 03:00 PM
I get home Tuesday night.
./a.out21-Aug-21 03:09 PM
Gotcha gotcha
Brainy
If it's your own pictures then you do DMCA
Perrine21-Aug-21 03:26 PM
So it only works if the harasser is posting your content.
./a.out21-Aug-21 03:38 PM
Im hostin the bot in the meantime
Poonis
ExecutiveJackbotBOT21-Aug-21 03:38 PM
spoonis.
./a.out21-Aug-21 03:38 PM
Welcome back @ExecutiveJackbot
🔇21-Aug-21 03:43 PM
Poonis?
ExecutiveJackbotBOT21-Aug-21 03:43 PM
ahem... poonis
🔇21-Aug-21 03:44 PM
Uh huh…
Krial21-Aug-21 03:56 PM
./a.out21-Aug-21 05:36 PM
hmm
Black Lily21-Aug-21 05:40 PM
Poonis
ExecutiveJackbotBOT21-Aug-21 05:40 PM
I love me some poonis
Perrine
So it only works if the harasser is posting your content.
Brainy21-Aug-21 08:48 PM
Yeah or pictures of you. It's possible to claim DMCA over just a picture of you, especially if it was taken in a private setting.
IE somewhere with a reasonable expectation of privacy.
Perrine21-Aug-21 08:48 PM
mm
Grommet21-Aug-21 09:19 PM
Hello fellow jannies
It is i
Also a jannie
🔇21-Aug-21 09:19 PM
Hello grommet.
Grommet21-Aug-21 09:21 PM
What do I do now
I inspect #food now?
🔇21-Aug-21 09:24 PM
Yes.
Black Lily22-Aug-21 01:43 AM
Eva is still waiting
Krial22-Aug-21 03:10 AM
hasnt made vid yet
Krial22-Aug-21 05:36 AM
I’ll help him make it tomorrow if he’s that retarded.
Krial
I’ll help him make it tomorrow if he’s that retarded.
Distoibed22-Aug-21 05:41 AM
don't
he's not retarded
he just refuses to do it
don't help him getting in if he doesn't want to
and clearly, he doesn't want to
Krial22-Aug-21 06:33 AM
He’s actually retarded.
He has legitimately messaged me that he couldn’t figure it out. Lol.
@Distoibed
Krial
He has legitimately messaged me that he couldn’t figure it out. Lol.
Distoibed22-Aug-21 06:34 AM
he wants you to do it
Krial22-Aug-21 06:35 AM
Nah. He just doesn’t know how to export video from vrc
Distoibed22-Aug-21 06:35 AM
a google search fixes that
he wants you to do it for him
idc if eva makes it in it or fyi, he could be let in for all I care, I just want that if you're gonna put him behind a req, it's gonna be done just
Krial22-Aug-21 06:37 AM
Aight.
I’ll give him a link. I think that’s fair at least.
Distoibed22-Aug-21 06:38 AM
he's abusing your kindness
Krial22-Aug-21 06:38 AM
Abusing my kindness would be begging for me or whoever to just let him in imo.
Which he hasn’t done I can say
Distoibed22-Aug-21 06:39 AM
you can do it in different kinds of ways
Black Lily22-Aug-21 06:43 PM
I've tried to change the color of furniture several times but it never lets me
🔇22-Aug-21 08:01 PM
Changed just fine for me.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Black Lily22-Aug-21 08:09 PM
I still can't for some reason
Jason24-Aug-21 01:21 AM
cant believe mod chat is dead bros
June24-Aug-21 01:22 AM
Azuth24-Aug-21 01:24 AM
Distoibed24-Aug-21 01:36 AM
About time
Perrine24-Aug-21 02:12 AM
Dead mod chat is a good thing
Black Lily24-Aug-21 05:41 AM
@Krial remember don't respond to retards in the thread
Krial24-Aug-21 05:41 AM
Good point
Krial24-Aug-21 05:58 AM
@Pineapples
Guy says he doesn’t browse thread btw
In vc in dals server just now
Pineapples24-Aug-21 05:58 AM
Ah, thanks for the tip.
Krial24-Aug-21 05:59 AM
Came in and asked for roles
Wouldn’t say boards
Then said he doesn’t browse thread
Pineapples24-Aug-21 05:59 AM
I think his name in-game was Sir Nozge. Might be confused with someone else, though.
Dal29024-Aug-21 06:02 AM
It is, he was an old friend of some of the other guys but he doesn't dun do the thread business, I also pressed and asked what boards he browses and he just said what
Pineapples24-Aug-21 06:03 AM
Yeah, I had the feeling he was just someone who mingled in ages ago.
Dal290
It is, he was an old friend of some of the other guys but he doesn't dun do the thread business, I also pressed and asked what boards he browses and he just said what
Distoibed24-Aug-21 06:12 AM
Your discord is kinda the vrg rejects
Davja
Others i cannot remember
But your place kinda acts like vrg-lite where the randos van slowly integrate
Dal29024-Aug-21 06:14 AM
Thanks for the friendly comment, but he was just asking where the main discord went
Distoibed24-Aug-21 06:14 AM
Not the nicest comment i know
But its the truth
Dal29024-Aug-21 06:15 AM
I let in like, four maybe five friends of friends and suddenly it's the reject corner
That aint the truth bruv
Distoibed24-Aug-21 06:16 AM
It will be eventually, every friend of friend will hear about this one and how it's more official but still not official and will try to get in
Dal29024-Aug-21 06:17 AM
Just like the halo cord people appear to understand the zoning
Distoibed24-Aug-21 06:17 AM
Probably, i'm not in it
Dal29024-Aug-21 06:18 AM
I can't control the people in VRChat either, those same people are hanging out with them and try and slip in anyway
Just gotta make sure to watch the door a little closer this time
Pineapples24-Aug-21 06:21 AM
Now he direct messaged me with the link?
Dal29024-Aug-21 06:22 AM
Weird biz because he could be ESL and not understand
I feel like I recognize the name, but nothing beyond that.
Distoibed24-Aug-21 04:11 PM
the guy I vetted was blue's "alt"
he wants to keep /vrg/ and his vrc discord accs split
his main has been kicked
🔇24-Aug-21 04:51 PM
Poor blue, he’s making so much money from b club that he is afraid we will ruin his fun. ):
🔇
Poor blue, he’s making so much money from b club that he is afraid we will ruin his fun. ):
Distoibed24-Aug-21 04:57 PM
Certain people from here have been crying and moaning and bitching and howling and whining and seething about current just b club and how blue is managing it
that's what blue is doing
but you could power a facility with the kinetic seething that happens over his map
🔇24-Aug-21 05:01 PM
June24-Aug-21 05:04 PM
getouttahere
Stannic24-Aug-21 05:25 PM
are people really attacking his stream of revenue
or is it the constant seething
Jason24-Aug-21 05:30 PM
im still sad about it
i doubt its the seethe
he's just a popular map maker with a big patreon
if he's seen mingling with people who say the gamer word and are transphobic he might get cancelled
Mumu from NYC24-Aug-21 05:56 PM
Cancel culture is not real
1
June24-Aug-21 06:01 PM
except when it gets you
but thats rare
I got hit once by it, always been paranoid since
Krial24-Aug-21 06:02 PM
Wait june you got canceled?
Y for
June24-Aug-21 06:05 PM
right when I was getting ready to release lavender
people think its funny to take shit out of context and try to smear you anywhere they can
Dal29024-Aug-21 07:01 PM
I am me, yall know how cringe that is
Krial24-Aug-21 07:58 PM
Thoughts?
Krial24-Aug-21 08:18 PM
My votes on prolly no
Any other thoughts
Perrine24-Aug-21 08:39 PM
I got minorly cancelled on Something Awful
Shit sucks
Brainy24-Aug-21 09:37 PM
I think we should let Blue do the alt thing given his unique circumstances.(edited)
Black Lily24-Aug-21 09:51 PM
Another coomer in their mid 30s
Brainy24-Aug-21 09:55 PM
June24-Aug-21 10:23 PM
Eric25-Aug-21 03:08 AM
wait question
Black Lily25-Aug-21 03:17 AM
I'd prefer if we didn't
They're only here for lewding
Yiff in hell
Krial25-Aug-21 03:45 AM
I’ll deal with it
Black Lily25-Aug-21 03:50 AM
Don't forget mid thirties
Black Lily
Don't forget mid thirties
Krial25-Aug-21 04:40 AM
Ill be there soon
Jason25-Aug-21 05:56 AM
yes please do not bully mid 30s gang
i must foster kindness towards mid 30s gang cause im gonna blink and be there
Eric25-Aug-21 07:17 AM
old fart
dying bitch
bag ol dust
Black Lily25-Aug-21 07:26 AM
Just don't be a degenerate in vr when you're in your mid thirties
Distoibed25-Aug-21 07:31 AM
Should've given that advice sooner
Eric25-Aug-21 07:39 AM
some people are in their 40s doing it
Krial25-Aug-21 07:45 AM
LMAO
Dot sent pics of him erping and said post it in welcome
who? is talking to me about it rn. he left when they joined
weird drama, nothing much to talk about tho
Black Lily26-Aug-21 12:13 AM
Were they trying to stalk him
🔇26-Aug-21 12:28 AM
no, just someone they know irl
Black Lily26-Aug-21 12:32 AM
That's even worse
🔇26-Aug-21 12:39 AM
yeah hes regretting it. he wants to see the shitshow lol
Brainy26-Aug-21 04:09 AM
Did who? spoonfeed them, or someone else?
Distoibed26-Aug-21 10:41 AM
Feedback/Question from Suro
Since @Durandus is still somewhat not in VR and I remember him having a deadline set by the mods here to the second or third week in august, will you guys act now?
I think giving him more time might let him come up with more and more excuses.
"Oh I'm with my sister now"
"Oh whoopsie my sister is bad, I'm moving soon"
"Oh whoops I need to buy a car first"
Next thing will be something like "Oh my pc is broken now" or something along the lines
Since we're setting dates for deskies
And this man's set date has been exceeded by almost An entire month
Brainy
Did who? spoonfeed them, or someone else?
🔇26-Aug-21 12:06 PM
Someone else gave them the invite.
Distoibed
And this man's set date has been exceeded by almost An entire month
Stannic26-Aug-21 12:10 PM
Oh yeah it was this monday or last monday that was his deadline
where black lily to make call
Suro is right when it comes to more excuses(edited)
🔇26-Aug-21 12:39 PM
I think I’ll wait til the first and then yeet people.
Stannic26-Aug-21 12:40 PM
ogey
Distoibed26-Aug-21 12:55 PM
so, about switching out jannies
🔇26-Aug-21 12:56 PM
What about it?
Distoibed26-Aug-21 12:57 PM
when we do
🔇26-Aug-21 12:58 PM
How about during Christmas/New Years?
Azuth26-Aug-21 12:59 PM
new years seems fitting
🔇26-Aug-21 01:00 PM
I think every 6 months is probably good for swapping them?
Stannic26-Aug-21 01:01 PM
switch me out now
🔇26-Aug-21 01:02 PM
I’ll kill you now, sure.
Guno26-Aug-21 02:28 PM
yeah honestly feel free to swap me out cause I've either been missing everything that needs jannie-ing or im just not paying enough attention lol
cause I've basically not touched the tools in months
Distoibed26-Aug-21 02:40 PM
didn't even know you demoted yourself
Black Lily26-Aug-21 04:35 PM
Sure we could kick durandus on the first
He's just a poltard anyway
I never see him posting anything other than nazi memes
@Stannic
Stannic26-Aug-21 04:42 PM
wat
Black Lily26-Aug-21 04:42 PM
Hi
Stannic26-Aug-21 04:42 PM
Hi
I thought I was de-jannied
Black Lily26-Aug-21 04:42 PM
You were
Stannic26-Aug-21 04:42 PM
oh
why am i allowed in here again
are you guys fucking with perms
Black Lily26-Aug-21 04:43 PM
yes
Stannic26-Aug-21 04:43 PM
oh okay
enjoy
Black Lily26-Aug-21 04:43 PM
Goodbye my friend
Krial26-Aug-21 07:23 PM
Rip stannic
Brainy26-Aug-21 07:50 PM
Why we get rid of Gremlin?
Stannic
switch me out now
Black Lily26-Aug-21 07:56 PM
He asked
Distoibed27-Aug-21 10:54 AM
Any1 wants the durandus kicking honours?
Eric27-Aug-21 11:27 AM
i already took honors of a carl melty
so if nobody takes it i will
Distoibed27-Aug-21 11:39 AM
You kinda instigated it yourself
Krial27-Aug-21 11:42 AM
Not for me. I’m biased against him.
That being said if no one else wants it I’ll do it gladly.(edited)
June27-Aug-21 11:54 AM
What's his warning
Reasoning
@Distoibed
🔇27-Aug-21 11:55 AM
No vr after saying “I’ll have it in 3 weeks” it’s been 2 months.
June27-Aug-21 11:55 AM
Oh can janies kick
🔇27-Aug-21 11:55 AM
No
June27-Aug-21 11:56 AM
Nevermind then
🔇27-Aug-21 11:56 AM
I’m going to yeet him on the first.
June27-Aug-21 11:56 AM
No reason to wait unless you tell him that not
Now
🔇27-Aug-21 11:56 AM
I’m going to clean up other stuff too.
Just makes it easier to have a single roll over day.
June27-Aug-21 11:57 AM
I see
🔇27-Aug-21 11:59 AM
Oh, looks like someone can’t read and already kicked him.
Or he left on his own, idk
June27-Aug-21 12:00 PM
Did they message them at least
🔇27-Aug-21 12:00 PM
Dunno
June27-Aug-21 12:00 PM
Lovely
🔇27-Aug-21 12:01 PM
It’s not in the audit log, so I assume he left on his own.
Distoibed27-Aug-21 12:04 PM
He's a drama queen tbh
should we mention that even if he left
he's not allowed back unless he has vr
🔇27-Aug-21 12:08 PM
If he joins we can mention it to him.
Distoibed27-Aug-21 12:10 PM
hmm..
should we mention it in #the-unclean as a temp addition?
🔇27-Aug-21 12:11 PM
Sure, added.
Krial27-Aug-21 07:47 PM
Yea he was crying about suro’s @ in feedback
He knew the hammer was coming down
Black Lily27-Aug-21 07:58 PM
He didn't have the balls to even try to defend himself
Krial27-Aug-21 07:59 PM
From what I heard through the grapevine,
And this doesn’t go anywhere obviously
Was that he was “worried about vrg grooming him, and he was proud to be very straight and was getting tired of all that gay shit”
Is what he said before he left
🔇27-Aug-21 08:00 PM
Krial27-Aug-21 08:00 PM
Ie I’m about to get kicked so I’m going to pretend this is my reason
I swear he reminds me of Chris Chan so much it’s insane.
Krial27-Aug-21 08:19 PM
Eyo sex spam in feedback getting annoying
Distoibed27-Aug-21 08:45 PM
Proud to be straight... Mans gonna fall at mach5
Krial27-Aug-21 08:47 PM
Man already has
He’s literally lying lol
Black Lily28-Aug-21 10:10 PM
What if we filtered eyo sex
Or have the bot spam their dms whenever they post it(edited)
🔇28-Aug-21 10:15 PM
./a.out29-Aug-21 12:22 AM
Can do lol
Distoibed29-Aug-21 04:35 PM
@🔇 What's the max amount I can time somebody out for?
🔇29-Aug-21 04:35 PM
infinite?
just put 999999 hours(edited)
Distoibed29-Aug-21 04:35 PM
I kinda want to make it a week just to spite him
🔇29-Aug-21 04:36 PM
days isnt working right for some reason
Distoibed29-Aug-21 04:36 PM
ah, so just figure it out in hours
🔇29-Aug-21 04:36 PM
ye
Distoibed29-Aug-21 04:36 PM
and it's
*time
out @person 9834h
?(edited)
🔇29-Aug-21 04:37 PM
no space between time and out
space after the number and before h
Distoibed29-Aug-21 04:37 PM
that's stupid
the number and h
🔇29-Aug-21 04:37 PM
blame @./a.out
it because its supposed to be able to do hours or days
but days isnt working
Distoibed29-Aug-21 04:38 PM
didn't knew he knows how to program
🔇29-Aug-21 04:38 PM
he knows enough
jackbot is his love child
poonis
ExecutiveJackbotBOT29-Aug-21 04:38 PM
yes, poonis.
./a.out29-Aug-21 07:44 PM
Jackbot is my son, he's a bit retarded, but im trying to raise him well
U sayin the days aint working on timeout?
Black Lily29-Aug-21 07:45 PM
*timeout @Rasmus 1 d
*timeout @Rasmus 1d
*timeout @Rasmus 1 h
None of them seemed to do anything
./a.out29-Aug-21 07:46 PM
Hmmm
*timeout @Rasmus 1 d
It appears it's related to perms. I might have fucked up the perms for mods, cuz its letting me do the days
Mumu from NYC29-Aug-21 08:01 PM
can we get a *bloominonion where it just pulls random pictures of bloomin onions
./a.out29-Aug-21 09:37 PM
That can be done as well lol
./a.out29-Aug-21 09:52 PM
aight, so not sure if there's other bugs people are reporting, but i fixed the issue with some people not being able to use it. If there's other issues lemme know
adding the bloomin onion and then I'll ship it to asylum
Description: Add a new rank for members to join, works with existing or new roles.
Cooldown: 8 seconds
Usage: ?addrank [name] (hex color) (hoist)
Example: ?addrank Team Mystic #0677ef true
right before a hour long meeting with 20 people on the engine team
🔇01-Sep-21 02:54 AM
he mentioned you
June01-Sep-21 02:54 AM
yeah
🔇01-Sep-21 02:54 AM
i only brought up lily
June01-Sep-21 02:54 AM
I wish you would've gave me a heads up before this
🔇01-Sep-21 02:54 AM
sorry ):
June01-Sep-21 02:54 AM
he really would like mod back
and wonders why guno was promoted to mod
🔇01-Sep-21 02:54 AM
didnt expect him to melty so hard, but kinda did
June01-Sep-21 02:55 AM
can you give him janny so he can discuss here
?
🔇01-Sep-21 02:55 AM
guno was supposed to be a mod anyways, i was just lazy
Stannic01-Sep-21 02:55 AM
🔇01-Sep-21 02:55 AM
you do know he left, right?
June01-Sep-21 02:56 AM
I can get him to join, if you allow it
my meeting starts in 4 minutes and I cannot talk more
🔇01-Sep-21 02:56 AM
you know you can make him a jannie now as a mod
June01-Sep-21 02:58 AM
I was asking permission, I knew I could do it
@Dal290
🔇01-Sep-21 02:58 AM
you dont need permission
Distoibed01-Sep-21 02:58 AM
Psychologist meeting rn brb
Dal29001-Sep-21 02:59 AM
How goes it gentlemen, feeling the love of being told I need a "break for my own good" after being fully used to push through the hard work.
June01-Sep-21 03:00 AM
Dal29001-Sep-21 03:03 AM
@Black Lily@🔇 So would you begin the formalities of me discussing how not only forcing decisions on other individuals without discussing it with them is a lil grimy, but also telling them its for "their own good" when their entire personality is built on pain and endurance is a mean thing to do.
🔇01-Sep-21 03:07 AM
reminder this is a 4chan community, communication isnt the thing we are best at.
Dal29001-Sep-21 03:08 AM
How about hey dal I think you are taking things a little hard maybe cool it
In a direct, private conversation
Not got you dab shouldn't have trusted me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
🔇01-Sep-21 03:09 AM
how about, hey dal ive had multiple complaints about you from the mod team, they wouldnt like to be a part of this because of the implied repercussions
Grommet01-Sep-21 03:09 AM
I dont think this needs to be said but no matter what happens we're all still friends
🔇01-Sep-21 03:09 AM
no, dal made it clear he hates me now
Dal29001-Sep-21 03:10 AM
I don't trust a motherfucker who thinks its cool to force what they think my limits are, onto me
I don't hate you
🔇01-Sep-21 03:10 AM
or at least cannot trust me in a friendly manner because of the things that happened
Dal29001-Sep-21 03:10 AM
I am just disappointed
Grommet01-Sep-21 03:10 AM
b-but we camped together
🔇01-Sep-21 03:10 AM
Grommet01-Sep-21 03:10 AM
PLATONICALLY
look, i love you both, no homo.
regardless of what happens, no bad blood, okay?
🔇
how about, hey dal ive had multiple complaints about you from the mod team, they wouldnt like to be a part of this because of the implied repercussions
Dal29001-Sep-21 03:11 AM
How about instead of taking a single from what I can guess is a recent conversation and translating that into heavy action
Grommet01-Sep-21 03:11 AM
i have no say or opinion because i'm ill-informed
Dal29001-Sep-21 03:11 AM
You talk to me about it
🔇01-Sep-21 03:11 AM
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Dal29001-Sep-21 03:12 AM
Because if this is what I think it is about, you getting upset about how I handle things on my own server elsewhere and translating that into action here
Aint a fun concept
🔇01-Sep-21 03:12 AM
i talked to others about it to get their opinion
Dal29001-Sep-21 03:12 AM
Of course and it has nothing to do with the recent situation
🔇01-Sep-21 03:12 AM
also, this was discussed a few weeks ago
Dal29001-Sep-21 03:13 AM
Yes, you explaining how I will and can be colluded against isn't a fun concept for me, excuse me for feeling a little
Erm, uncomfortable, am I allowed to say that massa?
🔇01-Sep-21 03:13 AM
i decided to wait for most of the drama to pass in order to not impact you negatively
Dal29001-Sep-21 03:13 AM
There it is
You decided
🔇01-Sep-21 03:13 AM
yes
lily could have decided to make the action then, but didnt
its like when disto took action against eva
Dal29001-Sep-21 03:14 AM
So as equals, another equal equally decided to make a decision to equal the other equal lower
Speaking from equal terms of course
🔇01-Sep-21 03:14 AM
we voted like 2 weeks before the action took place
ExecutiveJackbotBOT01-Sep-21 03:15 AM
GAMER???
Dal29001-Sep-21 03:15 AM
Even though it was voted on twice and really ticked me the fuck off
I went along with it because fuck, we at least voted on it, I could eat shit because everyone told me to
Being told to eat shit because you decided to isn't what I just spent a ton of time working to get rid of
🔇01-Sep-21 03:16 AM
look, we had to redo a vote because you didnt like the wording, we had to redo another because it was edited, how is the carl vote any different than that?
the first one was edited, and the second was too close to be called a decided action
Dal29001-Sep-21 03:16 AM
A hasty unpinged should ban ? is a little light on the wording and needs some discussion
Bans are serious damn business they need discussion, excuse me for asking for that
🔇01-Sep-21 03:17 AM
all votes need to wait 24 hours before action is taken
Dal29001-Sep-21 03:18 AM
Exactly, did you see me fucking overrule or go against those decisions
🔇01-Sep-21 03:18 AM
the only one that didnt wait was the cab thing, and that was just because he wasnt even in the server
Dal29001-Sep-21 03:18 AM
I am heavy on my wording and I tell you guys to stop being so fucking reddit rule orientated or let in cancer that will be a problem
ExecutiveJackbotBOT01-Sep-21 03:18 AM
Das racist
Dal29001-Sep-21 03:18 AM
Kinda are
🔇01-Sep-21 03:18 AM
go suck several dicks
Dal29001-Sep-21 03:18 AM
Did
🔇01-Sep-21 03:19 AM
because im not overruling you
Dal29001-Sep-21 03:19 AM
Because on the list of things done, again facts, I didn't go against a single vote decision
🔇01-Sep-21 03:19 AM
you didnt propose any change at this time where i said "no fuck off"
Dal29001-Sep-21 03:19 AM
You just made a decision to demote as you please
My hands a clean here
🔇01-Sep-21 03:19 AM
im simply removing your voting power
yes i made a decision of when on my own
Dal29001-Sep-21 03:19 AM
The discussion half of the voting is the most important
The fact that I have to feel like this is another server owned by a part is bullshit and I was pretty sure we just fought to get rid of that concept
ExecutiveJackbotBOT01-Sep-21 03:20 AM
Das racist
Dal29001-Sep-21 03:20 AM
I love this new bot got damn
🔇01-Sep-21 03:21 AM
blame onion for the bot, i think its fine tho
Dal29001-Sep-21 03:21 AM
No I am serious I actually like it
🔇01-Sep-21 03:21 AM
Dal29001-Sep-21 03:22 AM
But seriously, that is some bs, give mod back, talk to me about it like a damn adult, I didn't punch yuru(adolf) in the face for a nu-regime
🔇01-Sep-21 03:23 AM
im not a singular person making decisions on my own, im just the one that pulled the trigger(edited)
Dal29001-Sep-21 03:23 AM
Excuse me, let me talk to the other massa to get his permission to get to picking the fucking cotten
🔇01-Sep-21 03:24 AM
not everyone is capable of confrontation with you dal
Dal29001-Sep-21 03:24 AM
The fact that you think talking with me will always lead to confrentation is sad
I love conflict and believe it is a hearty way to get more honesty and bout with people
The kind of confrontation that illuminates some shit I need to be more aware of, good and bad, I believe this kind of interaction was important and a lot came out that wouldn't have come out otherwise
Pineapples01-Sep-21 03:46 AM
Is there something going on that the rest of us should know about? I am absolutely clueless that anything even happened.
Pineapples
Is there something going on that the rest of us should know about? I am absolutely clueless that anything even happened.
Dal29001-Sep-21 03:50 AM
Lily and Frozen talked amongst themselves about removing me from mod for a "break", frozen apparently talked to june loosely about hey do you want mod, and he was like yeah sure assuming I would be talked to or something like that(least I am guessing) I came back to explain not only was I not interested in a break, but I am a good hunk disappointed that in moderation history me verbally expressing my displeasure about votes that I key note, respected the outcome of, pales in comparison to doing the first hard overrule on another mod.
Because we are equals of course they equally decided to equal me out
Pineapples01-Sep-21 03:52 AM
That does seem odd, to put it lightly... We're supposed to have less of people just making decisions without discussing it with everyone. Though I'll at least wait and see what they say about it before I go forming an opinion on it.
Dal29001-Sep-21 03:53 AM
Of course I am interested in damage control on the backstabbing and I am a mean person for being upset about it
🔇01-Sep-21 03:55 AM
lily and i received complaints from others in the mod/jannie team, we discussed them with those that had complained and then discussed with each other. I will not name the others who had complaints or who we discussed with.
Dal29001-Sep-21 03:55 AM
So far guno and I assume rainy
🔇01-Sep-21 03:55 AM
guno complained to me today, but the decision was made prior to that
Dal29001-Sep-21 03:55 AM
Which might I add great choice on adding rainy, this won't be a terrible decision
Because we all decided on who gets to keep jannie or who to up the ladder
Or got to take part in that decision might I add
🔇01-Sep-21 03:57 AM
you have no complaints about june though?
you werent in that discussion either
Dal29001-Sep-21 03:58 AM
Yeah he is a good fit, speaking of taking on too much work don't dump too much on him
ExecutiveJackbotBOT01-Sep-21 03:58 AM
Das racist
🔇01-Sep-21 03:58 AM
hes only a mod for the jannie bot
i dont ask him for anything else other than the bot
Dal29001-Sep-21 03:58 AM
You know how shit works
We are all tupper
🔇
its like when disto took action against eva
Distoibed01-Sep-21 03:58 AM
We voted on this and we all knew this, but nobody wanted to do it (exept for you)
Pineapples01-Sep-21 03:59 AM
I don't think anything is ever dumped on anyone. Though I hope he doesn't feel like he has to take this too seriously. He's got enough more important shit to worry about.
🔇01-Sep-21 03:59 AM
yes disto
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
someones gotta do the dirty
Dal29001-Sep-21 04:09 AM
So am I going to get re-modded now or after you discuss it with the overlord master of the server?
Brainy01-Sep-21 04:09 AM
Wait what happened with June?
Dal29001-Sep-21 04:10 AM
He is mod
Brainy01-Sep-21 04:10 AM
Ohh I misunderstood, I thought he was removed just seeing the most recent messages
🔇
lily and i received complaints from others in the mod/jannie team, we discussed them with those that had complained and then discussed with each other. I will not name the others who had complaints or who we discussed with.
Dal29001-Sep-21 04:15 AM
quick side note here remember how we said we were not going to use mystery complaint excuse anymore
🔇01-Sep-21 04:16 AM
Yes, for people complaining about others in the server.
This is a contained issue of 20 people
A little different scope here
Dal29001-Sep-21 04:16 AM
I recieved quite a lot of complaints about the cute mute mod
Trust me bro
🔇01-Sep-21 04:17 AM
Then consolidate them with lily.
There is nothing stopping you from discussing things with others without informing me.
Brainy01-Sep-21 04:18 AM
I dunno the situation, but if regular users are complaining about a mod, there should be privacy regarding that
Dal29001-Sep-21 04:18 AM
Rightyio then I'll drop this on the table, I already discussed with most of the mods/jannies how I was not sure if Rainy could fit in as a jannie and I got an bit of a yeah same
I won't disclose the names of course, but you stepping them up as mod, stepping me down, and removing beef
Not liking that direction
🔇01-Sep-21 04:19 AM
Beef barely cares about it anyways.
And I haven’t heard any complaints about rainy, other than they do lawyer speak, and take things a little over serious at times.
Pineapples01-Sep-21 04:21 AM
I can understand people wanting to bring these things up in private, but I feel like at the very least just a "Hey, maybe you're going a bit overboard, could you chill out a little" would be a good idea. At least try to communicate with someone about these things instead of just taking action without giving them a chance.
Unless that did happen, I don't know.
Dal29001-Sep-21 04:22 AM
Well I am just flabberfucked that apparently verbally expressing displeasure about a bad decision but not actually doing anything counts as being COMPROMISED AND OH JEEZ LOOSE CANON
ExecutiveJackbotBOT01-Sep-21 04:23 AM
Das racist
🔇01-Sep-21 04:23 AM
Don’t be stressed over an internet community.
ExecutiveJackbotBOT01-Sep-21 04:23 AM
Das racist... wait no it's not
Dal29001-Sep-21 04:24 AM
You are insane if you don't stress
🔇01-Sep-21 04:24 AM
I am insane, but that’s fine.
Dal29001-Sep-21 04:24 AM
I know you give a fuck too
🔇01-Sep-21 04:24 AM
Yeah, I do. But I don’t stress about it.
Dal29001-Sep-21 04:24 AM
But this is the kind of shit worth enduring a bad mood or two for
Pineapples01-Sep-21 04:25 AM
I used to stress about shit here, but then I realised this place is bound to tear itself apart some day and we'll all still have The Friends We Made Along the Way™.
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🔇01-Sep-21 04:25 AM
It’s literally just bro, step the fuck back, and relax for a bit.
Dal29001-Sep-21 04:26 AM
Do you think things will at all be diffrent, and my varying levels of anger, annoyance, or motivation to fix shit will change
You can't stop me from being me, I'll live and die the way I choose to
🔇01-Sep-21 04:26 AM
Yeah, that’s fine, but you still need to take breaks from things.
Dal29001-Sep-21 04:27 AM
Nah, I still pump out that same stinky workshop poster every wednesday for the past 4 years
Pineapples
I can understand people wanting to bring these things up in private, but I feel like at the very least just a "Hey, maybe you're going a bit overboard, could you chill out a little" would be a good idea. At least try to communicate with someone about these things instead of just taking action without giving them a chance.
Brainy01-Sep-21 04:27 AM
Yeah I agree. Also stepping in here halfway through the discussion (on VR with Rak ATM). I'm just saying there shouldn't be a standard to "out" every person by name who may raise a complaint about someone in confidence because it opens them up to recrimination
Dal29001-Sep-21 04:27 AM
ILL CONTINUE DOIN IT
🔇01-Sep-21 04:27 AM
Just because you aren’t willing to take a break, doesn’t mean you don’t need one.
Brainy
Yeah I agree. Also stepping in here halfway through the discussion (on VR with Rak ATM). I'm just saying there shouldn't be a standard to "out" every person by name who may raise a complaint about someone in confidence because it opens them up to recrimination
Dal29001-Sep-21 04:28 AM
I say it starts becoming an issue if lets say, today happens
🔇
Just because you aren’t willing to take a break, doesn’t mean you don’t need one.
Dal29001-Sep-21 04:28 AM
I am literally built different sir
I get plenty of time away from this shit chilling out in shop
Brainy01-Sep-21 04:29 AM
Yeah, but why should it matter who raised a concern? If someone came to me in confidence with evidence of something bad that someone else was doing, I'd discuss it in confidence with other moderators, but I wouldn't just out that person to the moderator being accused. That's not right.
🔇01-Sep-21 04:29 AM
You aren’t. And there have been plenty of times I have told you to step off for a while where you have just ignored me.
🔇
You aren’t. And there have been plenty of times I have told you to step off for a while where you have just ignored me.
Dal29001-Sep-21 04:30 AM
Good, I have that right to decide how much shit I should take in, like I said at the beginning I actually fear that had I not endured this kind of shit, I could have ended up some lunatic like jelly or some shit
Brainy01-Sep-21 04:30 AM
Also I dunno why I'm being brought up in this discussion as not fitting in or whatever, but if your assumption is that I was the one who complained about you, then you're mistaken
Dal29001-Sep-21 04:30 AM
Me enduring shit and learning from it is the reason I am in balance
I need this kind of pressure because adversity is the strongest tool for growth I have ever located
ExecutiveJackbotBOT01-Sep-21 04:31 AM
I'm crying RN
Brainy
Yeah, but why should it matter who raised a concern? If someone came to me in confidence with evidence of something bad that someone else was doing, I'd discuss it in confidence with other moderators, but I wouldn't just out that person to the moderator being accused. That's not right.
🔇01-Sep-21 04:31 AM
If there is a mod being accused then secrecy is needed, but if it’s wired complaining that someone is being dumb in happening? Then I don’t see why we would need to keep anything discrete.
🔇
If there is a mod being accused then secrecy is needed, but if it’s wired complaining that someone is being dumb in happening? Then I don’t see why we would need to keep anything discrete.
Brainy01-Sep-21 04:32 AM
Oh yeah, I 100% agree with that. I'm referring specifically to situations where someone might go to a mod in private to complain about another mod doing something inappropriate
🔇01-Sep-21 04:32 AM
The scope is important.
🔇
If there is a mod being accused then secrecy is needed, but if it’s wired complaining that someone is being dumb in happening? Then I don’t see why we would need to keep anything discrete.
Dal29001-Sep-21 04:32 AM
We have talked on this subject before, basically the server has people like cryptic who are dedicated complainers and we need to pay attention to who and where these complaints are coming from
Yuru abused those before and would make arbitrary decisions based on whatever complaints from whoever
Brainy01-Sep-21 04:33 AM
Sorry I'm probably detracting from this whole discussion, I didn't mean to hijack it
Dal29001-Sep-21 04:33 AM
It's all good, it is important to cover at some point
Brainy01-Sep-21 04:34 AM
BTW before I go back on VR
Stannic told me the other day that they were joking about removing them as a Jannie
They didn't mean it and were just messing around
They still desire to do Jannie stuff if you still need them
They told me this within the same day they were removed
Brainy
Stannic told me the other day that they were joking about removing them as a Jannie
🔇01-Sep-21 04:35 AM
I already shoved him back in here.
Brainy01-Sep-21 04:36 AM
Ohh okay, sorry I'm so out of the loop
I need to spend tomorrow just catching up around here, been busy all week
Dal29001-Sep-21 04:38 AM
Basically though, I think this overruling business is still stinky, and I guess I'll start sleeping with one eye open
Brainy
Yeah, but why should it matter who raised a concern? If someone came to me in confidence with evidence of something bad that someone else was doing, I'd discuss it in confidence with other moderators, but I wouldn't just out that person to the moderator being accused. That's not right.
Pineapples01-Sep-21 04:41 AM
Dunno if someone else said it already, but that's generally with complaints about non-mod members of the discord. There are some people that are just really touchy and will call for people to get banned over tiny shit. So that's something to keep in mind when just one or two people ask us to deal with someone.
Azuth01-Sep-21 04:45 AM
I took my sleep meds so don't have much consciencesness left, but I just wanted to say with all the apparent discussion behind each other's backs, I've had no part in it and had literally no idea any of this was going on
Grommet01-Sep-21 04:45 AM
No matter what happens we're still friends it's okay
Azuth
I took my sleep meds so don't have much consciencesness left, but I just wanted to say with all the apparent discussion behind each other's backs, I've had no part in it and had literally no idea any of this was going on
Distoibed01-Sep-21 04:45 AM
same
some people are just left out of it
Dal29001-Sep-21 04:46 AM
It's fine azuth we are just entering game of thrones bullshit already
Distoibed01-Sep-21 04:47 AM
I kind of like being left out of it because I have 0 stress/issues with moderation, and seeing how stressful some of you have it in here, I'm glad I'm not part of it
Grommet
No matter what happens we're still friends it's okay
Pineapples01-Sep-21 04:47 AM
This. I know we have some heated arguments, but I feel like people don't generally get nasty at each other. I don't want people to hold grudges because of shit.
Grommet01-Sep-21 04:48 AM
yeah, but i don't know if any of us are that type really.
Pineapples01-Sep-21 04:48 AM
Just remember, we're all socially retarded.
We're here for a reason.
Grommet01-Sep-21 04:48 AM
Shit, Dal, asylum, johnny, june and i all went camping together
i watched dal sharpen a stick for like 6 hours
Pineapples
This. I know we have some heated arguments, but I feel like people don't generally get nasty at each other. I don't want people to hold grudges because of shit.
Dal29001-Sep-21 04:48 AM
I said some pretty harsh shit to aslyum ngl
Pineapples
Just remember, we're all socially retarded.
Pineapples01-Sep-21 04:49 AM
Well, except Grommet. Literally car salesman tier of being able to talk to people.(edited)
Grommet01-Sep-21 04:49 AM
Dal290
I said some pretty harsh shit to aslyum ngl
Pineapples01-Sep-21 04:49 AM
Well yeah, that's all well and good, but I hope you guys don't end up disliking each other because of it.
Dal29001-Sep-21 04:49 AM
I still have it
Grommet01-Sep-21 04:49 AM
legend
Pineapples01-Sep-21 04:49 AM
Fuck off, Discord, I don't give a shit.
Pineapples
Well yeah, that's all well and good, but I hope you guys don't end up disliking each other because of it.
Dal29001-Sep-21 04:50 AM
I'll try my best but damn this is a bit to get over, I am already paranoid enough without havin people legitimately colluding behind my ass
Dal290
I still have it
Pineapples01-Sep-21 04:50 AM
Is that a weird homemade weed pipe. Like what people make out of cans and apples and shit.
Grommet01-Sep-21 04:50 AM
No, its just a sharpened stick
he worked really hard on it
when we did the little cali campers meetup he widdled it for like 6 hours
Pineapples01-Sep-21 04:51 AM
Understandable, I'll hold shit against people for a while sometimes, but eventually I move on and remember it was just one out of thousands of interactions with someone that I didn't like.
Ackshually, it's wittled.
Grommet01-Sep-21 04:52 AM
uh i dont think so
speak american retard
Pineapples01-Sep-21 04:52 AM
Bruh, I'm a kiwi, we're probably second to none on muddling shit into d's.
Azuth01-Sep-21 04:52 AM
I know the "we're a 4chan community" excuse doesn't mean we should be assholes to each other, but we should have the ability to be brutally honest without taking it personally
Grommet01-Sep-21 04:52 AM
uh ackshually, it's Muttling
get fucked kiddo
Dal29001-Sep-21 04:53 AM
My favorite friendship right now is with n3x15, he is the dude who has seizures and all that, and we had a pretty solid bout, we avoided each other for a bit but then talked it out. The conversation boiled down to "so you are just going to get angry and lash out at me randomly and we just should get over that because we are good friends %90 of the time", still goin pretty strong 1 year after that convo haha
Pineapples01-Sep-21 04:53 AM
All vowels become u's, all t's turn into d's, etc..
Guno01-Sep-21 04:53 AM
I'm basically incapable of holding a grudge
Azuth
I know the "we're a 4chan community" excuse doesn't mean we should be assholes to each other, but we should have the ability to be brutally honest without taking it personally
Pineapples01-Sep-21 04:53 AM
Yeah, I meant more like sometimes we don't know how to communicate well with people. Not necessarily being assholes, but just not speaking good.
Guno01-Sep-21 04:54 AM
There is no rent vacancies in my head that last longer than a few days
Azuth01-Sep-21 04:55 AM
Anyway, I'm losing my ability to be awake. Love y'all, hope this situation can be resolved without too much drama.
Pineapples01-Sep-21 04:56 AM
Same. Have a good sleep.
Grommet01-Sep-21 04:59 AM
The memories we create are ours to keep. If you have a pleasant memory of someone, chances are they are a pleasant person, that you enjoy. Bad things happen. It's part of life, but the strength of a friendship is defined by your ability to deal with and understand those hardships. I used to be very conservative with grudges because i hated being the bad guy. But now i don't have to because of the sheer infrequency of people i can't get along with or love here. There's only been one or two people in the entirety of VRG i actually can't stand because of a small thing that rubbed me the wrong way, and that's generally because they couldn't man up and speak to me about it. What we have here is real, and genuine. 4chan may have brought us together, but we nourished this fruit garden.
oop
Probably shouldn't pin that here.
June01-Sep-21 05:01 AM
alright meeting over, caught up here
@Dal290 things are not resolved right
Dal29001-Sep-21 05:02 AM
June01-Sep-21 05:02 AM
I see im still mod so no
Dal29001-Sep-21 05:02 AM
Nah you can stay mod honestly we write the rules on this shit lmoa
June01-Sep-21 05:02 AM
hm?
Dal29001-Sep-21 05:02 AM
We can both be mods
BUT
Pineapples01-Sep-21 05:05 AM
@June I said it earlier, but you probably haven't seen yet. But please, don't stress yourself out over shit here. It's not that important.
Dal29001-Sep-21 05:06 AM
I am asking for mod back because I %100 think this shit will get too hugbox, don't like the direction that just took for even half a damn second, don't like the idea of well, fighting to get rid of admin crap for those last few months just to jump into well we talked about it so we get to overrule territory, talking behind other's backs and completely spitting on the idea that we are equal's until it is inconvenient to do it that way. On a fundamental level I am insulted, disagree, and think that shit is maximum stinky, I would as a functioning 26 year old adult withhold the right to accept any level of bullshit I sign up for, especially when I literally signed up for it, I am peeved as a man who likes punching bullshit that I was even for a second told whoa bro, thats a lot of shit to punch.
I punch stuff, it's what I do
Pineapples
@June I said it earlier, but you probably haven't seen yet. But please, don't stress yourself out over shit here. It's not that important.
June01-Sep-21 05:08 AM
I dont do too much, but yeah, I just straight up leave now when it gets too bullshit drama for the sake of it. theres a point where our problems are really fucking stupid if you take a step back and I always do
Dal29001-Sep-21 05:08 AM
Wait why did I say would and not will
June01-Sep-21 05:08 AM
yeah I'm not fan of shit behind your back, nor not explaining before a decision is made
I mean how do we decide whos mod or not
Pineapples01-Sep-21 05:09 AM
Glad to hear it. Just worried you might start worrying about things too much after being made a mod, based on the fact that you seemed distressed earlier.
June01-Sep-21 05:09 AM
and when we do, how do we decide when someone should take a break, or straight up should be stop being a mod
yeah dal was on the warpath and I had a stupid important meeting in 10min and not enough emotional bandwidth left over this week to deal with it
I'm at about 20% rn overall
Dal29001-Sep-21 05:10 AM
Yeah sorry you had to handle this june, but thanks for giving me the chance to explain this kind of thing out, appreciate the ability to got damn do so
June01-Sep-21 05:11 AM
yeah no problem, it doesnt sit right with me, but I really do not have the ability to be helpful right now
find some solution that sits well with you, Ill check back in tomorrow
goodnight
Dal29001-Sep-21 05:12 AM
Gnight
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Pineapples01-Sep-21 05:15 AM
G'night.
1
🔇01-Sep-21 06:24 AM
You were in vrc.
Black Lily01-Sep-21 07:51 AM
10 hour shifts suck ass
@🔇 I thought you talked to everyone about it weeks ago?
Dal29001-Sep-21 10:47 AM
Hello yes I am here to preach my stuff once more after waking up, EXHIBIT 1, I talked to at least 6 people about not thinking rainy was a good fit, I was literally told and I quote, I support whatever you decide to do, but you know what I didn't do, that, I stayed my course and waited to see if things would work out, but instead what I am getting form this message, I should have jumped the gun because I talked to just the people I knew had the same issue, then stonewall who supported me in that jump :^)
Dal29001-Sep-21 11:12 AM
I just grilled somebody for being verbose, going to lock step and tone down until either of our self proclaimed massas comes back and decides if it's cool for me to pick cotton
ExecutiveJackbotBOT01-Sep-21 11:31 AM
Das racist
Dal29001-Sep-21 11:32 AM
Solid stuff
Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.
Distoibed01-Sep-21 11:40 AM
June's bot prob wiped it
Dal29001-Sep-21 11:41 AM
HAHA, I was legit holding the benefit of the doubt assuming it was something like that
Note to self, watch my profanity in the mod channel because the discussion can be selectively deleted to make it look different by the bot
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Dal290
Hello yes I am here to preach my stuff once more after waking up, EXHIBIT 1, I talked to at least 6 people about not thinking rainy was a good fit, I was literally told and I quote, I support whatever you decide to do, but you know what I didn't do, that, I stayed my course and waited to see if things would work out, but instead what I am getting form this message, I should have jumped the gun because I talked to just the people I knew had the same issue, then stonewall who supported me in that jump :^)
Brainy02-Sep-21 02:41 AM
I don't understand why you insist on trying to instigate something with me? I have no idea what's going on, but it sounds like you're proactively messaging six random people to brigade me...? I'd appreciate if you left me out of whatever drama is going on with you. Yesterday you apologized for doing this (now deleted) and today you just seem to be turning around escalating it. I have literally nothing to do with you being removed as a Jannie / Moderator / whatever, nor do I care.(edited)
Dal29002-Sep-21 03:08 AM
Point being I had doubts, still have doubts
Don't see me acting on it
Brainy02-Sep-21 03:09 AM
What does that have to do with you being removed as a Jannie?
What does your personal opinion of me have to do with you being removed as a Jannie?
Dal29002-Sep-21 03:10 AM
I discussed what I discussed, should I just act on it because I got some approval
Apparently that is the situation now
That is bullshit
Dal290
I discussed what I discussed, should I just act on it because I got some approval
Brainy02-Sep-21 03:10 AM
I mean you seem to act on what you want to do without approval from anyone here already
Dal29002-Sep-21 03:11 AM
>vote to unfuck nsfw-chat
>pinned meme messages
>banned bot accounts
Black Lily02-Sep-21 03:13 AM
Yeah it was really dumb to try and use any of those as an example
Brainy02-Sep-21 03:13 AM
You unpinned messages by Pineapples, updated roles for yourself, made changes to #nsfw-chat perms. Maybe those were necessary, maybe not, but it didn't involve any kind of discussion here is my point.
When all I've seen from the last few days is him complaining about no discussion or accountability for actions being taken.
Now attacking me over I don't even know what?
Pineapples02-Sep-21 03:15 AM
None of that looks like anything that'd need to be mentioned. Just little things that barely matter.
Dal29002-Sep-21 03:15 AM
I don't like you for being so reddit/rule orintated, I don't believe you will bring a good mix to this kind of team, and I did complain to others
My entire point is I did that, but you don't see me blasting you
Brainy02-Sep-21 03:16 AM
I understand that it is harmless. I'm saying none of this involved any discussion either.
Dal290
My entire point is I did that, but you don't see me blasting you
Brainy02-Sep-21 03:16 AM
All you've done for the last two days is blast me when I'm not even here.
I woke up and have mentions (now deleted) of me with you saying I should be removed.
Now you saying you're talking to six other people abou tme.
Dal29002-Sep-21 03:17 AM
I already talked to them before about it
Being honest and upfront, something I wasn't given :^)
Brainy02-Sep-21 03:18 AM
What does that have to do with anything?
Dal29002-Sep-21 03:19 AM
I think you missed the part where lily and aslyum just tried to mod snipe me
As an example, I brought up I had and have serious doubts about you, but didn't act on them
Black Lily02-Sep-21 03:20 AM
@Brainy you should scroll up and read everything
Black Lily
@Brainy you should scroll up and read everything
Brainy02-Sep-21 03:21 AM
I don't know how far back I'm supposed to read
Referring to this
I don't have the other message because it was deleted (guessing by the bot).
Black Lily02-Sep-21 03:22 AM
Up to the last message from @AdminPerson
Brainy02-Sep-21 03:23 AM
This?
Black Lily02-Sep-21 03:23 AM
Ye
Dal29002-Sep-21 03:23 AM
Off topic actual mod discussion though, does the new thread permission actually work?
Brainy02-Sep-21 03:23 AM
Yeah I read most of this yesterday
Black Lily02-Sep-21 03:26 AM
Idk i still think discord threads are kinda shit
ExecutiveJackbotBOT02-Sep-21 04:49 AM
Das racist
Dal290
I don't like you for being so reddit/rule orintated, I don't believe you will bring a good mix to this kind of team, and I did complain to others
June02-Sep-21 04:52 AM
one thing I find strange is that, you dont like rainy for being reddit/rule oiented, but that was your reason for 'punching yuru' back then, for basically overriding all the rules back then and just taking people out of timeout, or unbanning jelly etc
also rainy being how they are and taking some stuff serious that we dont I think is why they got promoted to mod
whats your ideal way of running things here, lawless but then just gunning people down without warning if they fuck up?
I usually like a calm peaceful solution where they know what their choices are (which I know you like to directly confront in chat/text)
Distoibed02-Sep-21 04:59 AM
We run into too many edge cases and making shit up on the spot is kinda gay when other mods dont do the same
Brainy02-Sep-21 05:39 AM
I just want to put this out there.
I don't like that Dal went out of his way to badmouth me to what he admits were 6+ people (I've been told it's more), who said they would "back him up" on whatever he decided to "do" about me, or whatever it is he was conveying in his message?
I'm told Dal did this "weeks ago", so that makes it okay. But Dal also said in #mods yesterday that he has a grudge against me (now deleted). Then today I woke up to him calling me out yet again, now saying he wished he'd "jumped the gun" on me?
If someone dislikes me (or my suggestions), I think they should be free to discuss it privately with other mods. But I don't think it's appropriate to be blasting me here, calling me a "Redditor" who "doesn't belong", blaming me for "destroying" the server, and then repeating those "facts" to other people in the community who do not know me or what we are discussing in this channel.
TL;DR: I'd like to know I'm no longer being badmouthed to anyone and everyone and blamed for destroying the server?(edited)
June02-Sep-21 05:47 AM
this is honestly the first I've seen of it, other than discussion here
there better not be a inner circle I dont know of
Brainy02-Sep-21 05:47 AM
Same here, I had no idea bout any of this until yesterday
June02-Sep-21 05:47 AM
@🔇 invite me into the inner inner inner circle
I dont know what level of inner we're at
Brainy02-Sep-21 05:49 AM
I mean if it's other mods, I think he should have privacy to do that. My concern is that from talking with others, it sounds like these were discussions with people outside the team.
That's the part I don't find appropriate because those are people who don't know the nuances of the discussion happening here.
Black Lily02-Sep-21 05:51 AM
He only messaged people that can see this channel as far as I know(edited)
Black Lily
He only messaged people that can see this channel as far as I know (edited)
Brainy02-Sep-21 06:00 AM
So long as that's as far as it went (or will ever go). This has been a confusing and frustrating couple of days. Not fun being made a punching bag and I just don't want rumors being spread about me to randos.(edited)
Distoibed02-Sep-21 06:06 AM
Didn't message me
Distoibed02-Sep-21 06:23 AM
Although i do find it amusing how the snipe failed and now the sights are being readjusted
June02-Sep-21 06:29 AM
at least things are chill as fuck right now as a whole
June02-Sep-21 06:57 AM
mkay checked the action log from the bot
*actions
btw, heres the messages it ate from dal and one from asylum
just so no one thinks shit was being censored
ExecutiveJackbotBOT02-Sep-21 06:58 AM
Das racist
GAMER???
I'm crying RN
Das racist... wait no it's not
June02-Sep-21 06:59 AM
oh and the irony is that the bot is going to delete these proof messages...
every single message I just posted
lovely...
Pineapples02-Sep-21 07:00 AM
Oh man, that's bound to pick up a lot of normal messages.
June02-Sep-21 07:00 AM
I'm sure its ate quite a few lol
people were using that too commonly to write the n word though
when I add in the approval mode, it will get removed from the auto one and added to that(edited)
that way we can y/n the post in #bot-review
I will attempt to do a update this weekend on the bot, energy permitting
Brainy02-Sep-21 07:02 AM
Goddammit Jackbot
June02-Sep-21 07:03 AM
jackbot's nword + fword detection pisses me off like no other
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Krial02-Sep-21 07:04 AM
Love me some jackbot.
June02-Sep-21 07:06 AM
hes only one racial slur away
./a.out02-Sep-21 07:28 AM
He's just out here doin his job to point out racism!
June02-Sep-21 07:35 AM
I think I'll bake in a exclusions system(edited)
so I can just mark this channel as off limits(edited)
or exclude myself
right now the bot has zero bias
Brainy02-Sep-21 09:20 AM
I like that it goes and cleans up the words in here, but I can understand if you guys don't want it doing that
But I do like that extra layer of deniability
Stannic02-Sep-21 10:16 AM
poonis
ExecutiveJackbotBOT02-Sep-21 10:16 AM
poonis.
Stannic02-Sep-21 10:16 AM
spoonis
ExecutiveJackbotBOT02-Sep-21 10:16 AM
poonis.
Stannic02-Sep-21 10:16 AM
June
I dont know what level of inner we're at
Stannic02-Sep-21 10:19 AM
we're on the 5th layer i think my dude
Azuth02-Sep-21 10:40 AM
>he's not in the innest circle
Stannic02-Sep-21 10:41 AM
>he's not in the 12th circle that's made to hate against the 4th circle
l m a o
Azuth02-Sep-21 10:43 AM
you know who the real shadow leader of /vrg/ is right?
when you get as far inner into a circle as you can, what's left?
a dot
Stannic02-Sep-21 10:43 AM
Dal29002-Sep-21 01:34 PM
What I said remains unchanging
Apparently we are encouraged to go outside of the mod channel when the results here are not favorable and unlike my complaints against rainy, act on them, and yee I think he/she? doesn't know enough people and won't function well as a mod/jannie in the future, we are all pretty solid people persons grounded within the whole of people we know, people orientated to construct rules to make things impersonal isn't what /vrg/ needs.
Basically don't clean up mizumi's cunnyposting for a week straight, talk to him on day three of you being frustrated about it, also don't come in and threaten people that if they don't report shit to the C.U.N.N.Y we are liable for shit, we know that, don't fucking remind everyone(edited)
Freaked me the fuck out man
June
one thing I find strange is that, you dont like rainy for being reddit/rule oiented, but that was your reason for 'punching yuru' back then, for basically overriding all the rules back then and just taking people out of timeout, or unbanning jelly etc
Dal29002-Sep-21 01:43 PM
Real quick, it wasn't overriding rules, we had none, it was overriding us
Also doing shit like asking other people to do mod actions that looked icky so he could maintain his pristine image
It was gross
Dal290
Apparently we are encouraged to go outside of the mod channel when the results here are not favorable and unlike my complaints against rainy, act on them, and yee I think he/she? doesn't know enough people and won't function well as a mod/jannie in the future, we are all pretty solid people persons grounded within the whole of people we know, people orientated to construct rules to make things impersonal isn't what /vrg/ needs.
Distoibed02-Sep-21 01:44 PM
idk if that first sentence was a vaguepost about me or rainy
Distoibed
idk if that first sentence was a vaguepost about me or rainy
Dal29002-Sep-21 01:45 PM
Disto if I have an issue with you I will tell you, I am not afraid to do so :p
You are very strange lately but I actually appreciate your cutthroat honesty, we kind of need that, just evaluate when you see, things go deeper then the surface
Distoibed02-Sep-21 01:52 PM
Been doing some personality/mentality changes as of late
It basically boils down to: I'm not going to bottle things up anymore and just be "cutthroat honest" like you said
Krial02-Sep-21 01:54 PM
I think that rainy is a not bad voice to have on board. And they sound like they have a stick up their ass sometimes, but I do not think that is impacting their ability to do the job and I think they do what they do very well.
That being said. Using alphabet words is absolutely not cool, and should not be repeated.
Dal29002-Sep-21 01:59 PM
I beg to differ and as I keep sayin and so do other's really don't appreciate that complaints are heading to a department and as I can see, interpreted however, fucking hell I hate phones. We went through all this work just to loop back on this kinda junk.
Krial02-Sep-21 01:59 PM
I think having opinions that clash in meaningful ways, and varying viewpoints, is very good for seeing multiple sides of sitstjons.
Dal29002-Sep-21 02:00 PM
I do see this as a problem
Krial02-Sep-21 02:00 PM
No complaints are headed to a department. I don’t think I think that rainy was letting us know that if we don’t act proactively there was a possibility that WE could be reported(edited)
For providing potentially illegal content a safe haven.(edited)
Dal29002-Sep-21 02:01 PM
No complaint department aint what I am saying
Krial
No complaints are headed to a department. I don’t think I think that rainy was letting us know that if we don’t act proactively there was a possibility that WE could be reported (edited)
Distoibed02-Sep-21 02:01 PM
There are some people in here that do get the complaints dm'd to them
Dal29002-Sep-21 02:01 PM
What I am saying is I don't like the idea that anybody other then us is judging anything
Pinapples disto and the other mods were not informed about that jip on me
Krial02-Sep-21 02:01 PM
Oh I thought you were talking about the other shit
Not complaints to y’all from users
Lol
Dal29002-Sep-21 02:01 PM
Yet rainy gets to be promoted without discussion, and my complaints, and I am sure others have been brushed aside
I don't like that deal
Krial02-Sep-21 02:02 PM
I can agree that promotions need discussion.
110%.
Dal29002-Sep-21 02:02 PM
I didn't go through all this got damn work with yuru just to end up having somebody else be the name and say on shit
Krial02-Sep-21 02:02 PM
Also off topic but
TFW work meeting when I’m off
Kill me.
Dal29002-Sep-21 02:03 PM
Is it about new jersey
Krial02-Sep-21 02:03 PM
Nope
It’s literally about
Evaluating our plans for performance improvement
It’s just corpo shit.
I could sleep through this, say “y’all have a good day!” When they’re done, and they’d think I was utmost of participation.
God damnit never mind they want my fucking webcam on
I literally haven’t slept but 4 days.
4 hours***
ExecutiveJackbotBOT02-Sep-21 02:05 PM
GAMER???
Krial02-Sep-21 02:05 PM
Broke
And just put a sticky note
Lol
Over it
HAHAHAH
ExecutiveJackbotBOT02-Sep-21 02:08 PM
I'm crying RN
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Stannic02-Sep-21 02:18 PM
leave carl alone?
Dal29002-Sep-21 02:19 PM
Kneel to our collective decision to not blast much like eva
Stannic02-Sep-21 02:19 PM
oh
lol
Dal29002-Sep-21 10:02 PM
Howwy crap I have to watch my slurs
Black Lily02-Sep-21 10:10 PM
Don't say swears
Stannic02-Sep-21 10:19 PM
NIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGER
NIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGGERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
JACKBOT PLS
ExecutiveJackbotBOT02-Sep-21 10:19 PM
GAMER???
Stannic02-Sep-21 10:20 PM
GAMER
June02-Sep-21 10:22 PM
Almost the weekend so I can work on the bot
June03-Sep-21 07:51 AM
@Mumu from NYC no ! :)
Stannic03-Sep-21 09:33 AM
wat
June03-Sep-21 09:37 AM
they were named ! to be at the top of the userlist(edited)
Perrine03-Sep-21 01:11 PM
Disgusting
Dal29003-Sep-21 01:40 PM
basically
Stannic03-Sep-21 02:47 PM
@June is it possible to get an md5 hash of an image and have it deleted
and/or link
for the bot as II noticed some people like to repost images after I delete them
and I'd like to have a way to just set it up to where the bot auto deletes the image after 20 minutes
just to keep people from getting stirred up
and i usually let the images live for some hours and delete after since everyone has seen it already
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Distoibed03-Sep-21 03:41 PM
you could also just delete them and don't respond
Stannic03-Sep-21 03:41 PM
it's what i do
but having the jannie bot know some of the stuff would lbe nice
hue
can do the same with hydrus network, download the tags and then use whatever it uses to figure out the image and delete
Stannic
and I'd like to have a way to just set it up to where the bot auto deletes the image after 20 minutes
June03-Sep-21 07:39 PM
Good idea
Brainy03-Sep-21 08:49 PM
Yeah I'm hoping we can get the bot to remove the reactions as soon as we add them too so people aren't seeing we flagged it too obviously and then prompted to retaliate with worse posts.
The bot could always confirm in a mod-specific channel receipt of the post with a link and who flagged it along with confirmation it will be deleted in 20m or what have you.
Stannic04-Sep-21 12:31 AM
i just post link and @ the bot ez
the only ones that'll react will be ones like joshiro, umouto, fakku, and bote from what i saw
because some of them go back to check their posts
Krial04-Sep-21 12:54 AM
Umouto won’t care
Neither will fakku
Stannic
i just post link and @ the bot ez
Brainy04-Sep-21 01:18 AM
That works too if we can just post the link in a mod-only channel for the bot. That was how I originally envisioned this working, since then there's no indication of moderation happening.(edited)
Stannic
because some of them go back to check their posts
Brainy04-Sep-21 01:19 AM
It's so ironic to me that the only time people seem to do this or care is with NSFW posts
As in it's not an antisemitic Carl-esque 5 pages rant they get mad about being deleted. It's their fucking hentai. LOL
1
June04-Sep-21 01:20 AM
sex makes the world go round
1
Black Lily04-Sep-21 01:25 AM
This is what happens when you make horny the core of your personality
2
June04-Sep-21 01:27 AM
shit
dont need to do me like that
Stannic04-Sep-21 01:33 AM
someone give me anon27's hat
and the background song of papers please
Black Lily04-Sep-21 01:34 AM
He doesn't have a hat
Stannic04-Sep-21 01:34 AM
he used to when he was going through the red and black phase
he had an admiral hat
Black Lily04-Sep-21 01:35 AM
Ask him for it
Stannic04-Sep-21 01:36 AM
will do
Black Lily04-Sep-21 01:36 AM
I'm sure he's deleted all of his unity stuff by now
Stannic04-Sep-21 01:36 AM
from what i've last talked with him
Brainy04-Sep-21 01:36 AM
Why?
Stannic04-Sep-21 01:37 AM
he's helping other people learn blender and uploading shit to vrchat
and he still has his models
he keeps himself far far far away from us
the only thing he has closest who sometimes visit is me
as far as i know
Black Lily04-Sep-21 01:37 AM
You mean Azuth
Stannic04-Sep-21 01:37 AM
o true
Brainy04-Sep-21 01:37 AM
What's the hat?
Black Lily04-Sep-21 01:38 AM
It's like a nazi hat
Brainy04-Sep-21 01:38 AM
Ohh
Stannic04-Sep-21 01:38 AM
papers please
Brainy04-Sep-21 01:38 AM
Probably an MMD of it
Stannic04-Sep-21 01:38 AM
glory to arstozka
Black Lily04-Sep-21 01:38 AM
He was trying to play the villain after the first nuke
Brainy04-Sep-21 01:38 AM
That's actually kind of genius because you could get away with it in VRChat for not having the Nazi association / imagery
Since they have to police that in games due to Euro laws
If someone reports you, it's not the Nazi hat, it's a cosplay from another game (Papers Please).
actually that might be a fun thing to add in vr for a map
there's a japanese folklore game where you can gain expotential riches but you gotta play a game of life and death against some ghost
Black Lily04-Sep-21 01:44 AM
Do the toilet paper ghost
Stannic04-Sep-21 01:44 AM
and what you have to do to start it is fill your tub to the brim, lay in it in the dark and then chant something of the ghost's name and then when you get out the game starts
Black Lily04-Sep-21 01:44 AM
Blue or yellow toilet paper
Stannic04-Sep-21 01:45 AM
you'll hear and sense the ghost all the time and when you feel it's getting near you, you have to shoo them away but it only works for a limited amount of time
if the ghost gets you, you're haunted for the rest of your life, but if you make it to midnight without it touching you
you're set for life
Black Lily04-Sep-21 01:47 AM
An eternal friend
Distoibed04-Sep-21 05:14 AM
@Black Lily you know that davja was spoonfed and is in #the-unclean right?
Distoibed
@Black Lily you know that davja was spoonfed and is in #the-unclean right?
Black Lily04-Sep-21 05:21 AM
Didn't check, was wondering why their name was vaguely familiar
Distoibed04-Sep-21 05:21 AM
Shall i kick
I'll take the blame
Black Lily04-Sep-21 05:23 AM
Idk there's a chance they found their way here on their own this time
Distoibed04-Sep-21 05:23 AM
Nah
He resided in dalcord
And tried 3 times here
Black Lily04-Sep-21 05:28 AM
I forgot the invite isn't even in the thread
There's no way they could have found their way here themselves
Distoibed04-Sep-21 05:29 AM
It is
In rentry
But still
He's spoonfed by chilicookie
Black Lily04-Sep-21 05:29 AM
Witch one is it in now
I didn't see it in any of the ones I checked
Distoibed04-Sep-21 05:30 AM
Davja
#the-unclean
Black Lily04-Sep-21 05:31 AM
I mean the invite link
Distoibed04-Sep-21 05:31 AM
Ah
Black Lily04-Sep-21 05:31 AM
I kicked him btw
Distoibed04-Sep-21 05:31 AM
It gets added and removed
Y'know good old rentry wars
Black Lily04-Sep-21 06:27 AM
@Distoibed they actually noticed
Distoibed04-Sep-21 06:28 AM
don't reply lmao
Krial04-Sep-21 06:51 AM
Davja was spoonfed
But has been lurking thread and meets for like a month
He’s got the piccrew so he definitely visits the thread
Maybe give em a timeline or some shit. He’s blowing up my DM’s too
@Black Lily
I told em to get fucked a while ago, but the question is do we ban spoonfed forever
DM pic for posterity
ExecutiveJackbotBOT04-Sep-21 06:55 AM
GAMER???
Black Lily04-Sep-21 06:55 AM
I don't think we should but the question is how did he get the invite link today when it's not in the thread
Black Lily
I don't think we should but the question is how did he get the invite link today when it's not in the thread
Distoibed04-Sep-21 06:56 AM
he's in dalcord
tried 3 times
our invite link is literally just 3 letters
Black Lily04-Sep-21 06:56 AM
Yes
Distoibed04-Sep-21 06:56 AM
could've remembered
he browses the thread yeah
like any1 that wants to get in but can't
Black Lily04-Sep-21 06:57 AM
That's kinda the downside of using vanity url
Krial04-Sep-21 06:57 AM
I don’t think the vanity irl is the problem
If I had to say anything
I told the dude a solid month of growing
Browsing
And he came back after 2 weeks
Give em another month without trying to join til then
Krial
I don’t think the vanity irl is the problem
Black Lily04-Sep-21 06:58 AM
I mean if they get spoonfed once they'll always have a valid invite link
Distoibed04-Sep-21 06:58 AM
thing is
he desperately tries to get inside the discord
this tells me that this is his end goal
he'll lie about browsing the thread after he joins the discord
cus he thinks "I'm in" once he's allowed here
Krial04-Sep-21 06:59 AM
Then let’s just catch him not browsing
If he stops, perma ban
With a message from yours truly so he knows he’s done for good.
Distoibed04-Sep-21 06:59 AM
don't wanna be a cunt, but when we do that, we have lots of others in here who don't browse
Krial04-Sep-21 07:00 AM
You’re not being a cunt. And I agree
We just have no current standard way to deal with spoonfed folks
Distoibed04-Sep-21 07:00 AM
I don't blame people for not browsing the thread when they are 4chan
Krial04-Sep-21 07:00 AM
There’s cases of idiots like ivy
And then there’s cases with our current retard(edited)
Distoibed04-Sep-21 07:00 AM
but this dude is browsing to get in
Krial04-Sep-21 07:01 AM
Notice how when we kicked ivy they fucked off 4chan forever
Because they clearly had an agenda
Black Lily04-Sep-21 07:01 AM
He said he browses /a/ and /wsg/
Krial04-Sep-21 07:01 AM
Dude keeps trying, if he’s an asset thief he’ll leave himself
If he’s a lewder we’ll find him within a week
Not like kicking him is stopping him from coming and hanging at meets
Which he’s doing, and from what I’ve heard not being a piece of garbage lewder
If I had any say in it, I’d say make him stick to a month of solid browsing, and then just keep an eye on him for being a retard
If he can go a month, without joining drunk as shit like an idiot
Then he’s prolly fine.
Distoibed04-Sep-21 07:06 AM
this is how randos get in
Black Lily04-Sep-21 07:07 AM
Zazie...
Distoibed04-Sep-21 07:12 AM
I don't like being ryder tier on "grrrrr randos"
but he failed and failed hard
if we're ever letting them in we admit to the point that we let randos in because they met a given condition
if you give me a condition to join a discord that I want in on, OFC I'll be a good boy and do them until the time limit has reached
Krial04-Sep-21 07:59 AM
Fair.
I think meets are the prime real estate anyways. If he’s got that, dunno what else he’s complaining about not having
Makes sense. If he browses eventually he’ll find his way
Krial
I think meets are the prime real estate anyways. If he’s got that, dunno what else he’s complaining about not having
Distoibed04-Sep-21 08:23 AM
it's the mentality that the discord is the true /vrg/
Distoibed
it's the mentality that the discord is the true /vrg/
Krial04-Sep-21 08:59 AM
Dumb mentality.
Distoibed04-Sep-21 09:01 AM
almost every vrc community's "core" is in their discord server
where everything happens ect
./a.out04-Sep-21 12:12 PM
I've got an idea, which I'll throw into mod voting. My original plan with the unclean channel was to have jackbot automatically log names, which was a bit harder to setup due to some issues with how the api can detect people leaving the server.
If y'all want, I can switch the plan, have it so we put names in the unclean like we've been doing, and have the bot put those names into a list with a month timer on them, so if they return within a month they are automatically kicked and DM'd "wait a month" by the bot
Stannic04-Sep-21 12:13 PM
do eet
./a.out04-Sep-21 12:14 PM
Mwahahaha
Pineapples04-Sep-21 06:24 PM
Might be good, but I don't know if telling people to wait a month is a good idea. No matter what we mean by it, they'll take it as 'come back in 1 month and you'll be let in.'
Dal29004-Sep-21 06:35 PM
Going to pitch my voice here since I feel like I kinda need to, I think this is a case of mis-identification, I agree with keep out the evil immigrants but we should really define what we mean by spoonfeeding
The possibility and reality exist in this situation that a fellow chan bro invited another chan bro, do we count that as spoonfeeding and should we weigh things depending on what they say and treat them all the same. The link is bopped from the OP constantly now and the discord invite is literally discord.gg/vrg
ExecutiveJackbotBOT04-Sep-21 06:37 PM
Das racist... wait no it's not
Dal29004-Sep-21 06:38 PM
Since I need to scrub my words so they don't get deleted, I'll repost that last part "I see people who don't have a backbone or are too shy that can be bashed by this selection process by treating them the same as we treat some FRIEND like IVY who was obviously not from here and fed in"
Azuth04-Sep-21 06:48 PM
If someone is spoonfed here who's an anon, they'll have no problem answering the boards question
Azuth
If someone is spoonfed here who's an anon, they'll have no problem answering the boards question
Distoibed04-Sep-21 06:48 PM
yep, same as what @Pineapples said
give a condition and sum1 who wants it will wait it out
Dal29004-Sep-21 06:50 PM
Yeah of course if they can't pass for shit bully em, just saying we might want to review things a little since there isn't really a "place they can find it" from the thread thanks to mongs
Stannic04-Sep-21 06:54 PM
isn't it in the rentry?(edited)
ExecutiveJackbotBOT04-Sep-21 06:55 PM
I'm crying RN
Stannic04-Sep-21 06:59 PM
ah
./a.out
I've got an idea, which I'll throw into mod voting. My original plan with the unclean channel was to have jackbot automatically log names, which was a bit harder to setup due to some issues with how the api can detect people leaving the server.
If y'all want, I can switch the plan, have it so we put names in the unclean like we've been doing, and have the bot put those names into a list with a month timer on them, so if they return within a month they are automatically kicked and DM'd "wait a month" by the bot
Brainy04-Sep-21 08:57 PM
I've suggested this on at least two occasions, specifically so minors don't slip back in here or meetups, but got a lot of blowback that"we don't keep ban lists / shit lists". Having #the-unclean is better than nothing (which is what we had before). But I'm in 100% agreement that we need to log this in a bot, or in a sheet somewhere that is easily referenced. Having a bot is ideal because then it can notify us if a user speaking in #welcome on a given day is a returning user.
A bot on another server I mod has an embed for it. The embed tells you aliases the user was known under on the server, alt accounts associated with it by mods, the last date they visited, and all mod actions/reasons taken against the user (including kicks). The embed can be called at any time in a mod channel.(edited)
./a.out04-Sep-21 09:37 PM
Interesting. I could definitely have it alert the mods channel or something if a user in unclean shows up, and I can look into having it grab that extra info like aliases n stuff. On top of that, Pineapples makes a very good point. I could scrap the DM part or make it say something more vague like "You've already tried"
Dal290
The possibility and reality exist in this situation that a fellow chan bro invited another chan bro, do we count that as spoonfeeding and should we weigh things depending on what they say and treat them all the same. The link is bopped from the OP constantly now and the discord invite is literally discord.gg/vrg
June04-Sep-21 10:11 PM
yeah I agree that we need to be careful that we dont bap honest people
scary mods keeping people out
Dal29004-Sep-21 10:12 PM
Especially since somebody is putting in double time effort to hide the link
June04-Sep-21 10:12 PM
true
I've gotta run and get food n stuff, but when I'm back I'll try to add an exclusion to the bot, so it doesnt filter this channel(edited)
Regarding this, you'll want to make sure there is decay on it.
Assuming the goal is not to keep these people out forever.
So if they return within one month, it's an auto-kick, but if they return after two months, the auto-kick doesn't count against them.
Unless you want to just keep them out perpetually?
Krial05-Sep-21 06:23 PM
Essentially what it’ll do is kick them if they rejoin before their month is up, and restart the month clock.
If they join after the month, it won’t kick them at all.
Least that’s what I’m getting from it, and the spirit of the rule. If you’re (like the recent new guy) getting stupid wasted and reapplying every week becuase you’re a retard, that clock count should keep restarting
Krial
Essentially what it’ll do is kick them if they rejoin before their month is up, and restart the month clock.
Brainy05-Sep-21 06:25 PM
So if they rejoin before their month is up, it will auto-kick them, then start a new timer as if it was their first time being kicked? That could mean a person perpetually being kicked if they keep trying to come back here within one month intervals, unless we inform them the timer restarts, or we put decay on the timer.
Krial05-Sep-21 06:25 PM
Nah. We want them perpetually kicked if they keep ignoring the one month timer.
Brainy05-Sep-21 06:25 PM
But you guys want it to behave that way by design?
Ah okay, yeah that's what I was confused about, if this is actually what you want it to do by design.
Krial05-Sep-21 06:26 PM
I’ll message em and tell them they have to wait the full month. And if they choose to ignore it, they’re going to keep waiting.
Brainy05-Sep-21 06:26 PM
Ahh I get it now
Yeah that makes sense if we're going to tell them about the time period
Krial05-Sep-21 06:26 PM
Honestly I’d go as far to say if they ignore the rules laid out for em, ans keep rejoining, after 3 kicks they’re just permabanned
Least for like a year or something
Because if you’re that retarded, no need to cater to em
Krial
Honestly I’d go as far to say if they ignore the rules laid out for em, ans keep rejoining, after 3 kicks they’re just permabanned
Brainy05-Sep-21 06:28 PM
I think as long as we inform them of the rules (and timeframe), anything you do there should be fine. Only thing I'd suggest beyond that would be for the bot itself to automatically DM people the warnings/reasons if they are every auto-kicked, just so they remain informed if we don't reach out after an auto-kick. Otherwise they could end up complaining about it in the thread.
Krial05-Sep-21 06:29 PM
Half the people we kick don’t browse the thread anywyas
Brainy05-Sep-21 06:29 PM
The other thing is that this vote specifically relates to spoonfeds. I'd hope we would use a similar system for people we don't want returning ever. Such as, maybe the bot could alert us if someone in #welcome is using the same name as someone we previously banned?
Krial05-Sep-21 06:30 PM
The only people we generally leave in welcome to rot are cab and as of late eva
Ans cab changes his name every time
Krial
Half the people we kick don’t browse the thread anywyas
Brainy05-Sep-21 06:31 PM
True I just don't want them shitting up the thread with drama or unfounded accusations about "inner circle" keeping them out indefinitely.
Krial
Ans cab changes his name every time
Brainy05-Sep-21 06:31 PM
Does he use the same account?
Krial05-Sep-21 06:31 PM
Certain ppl are plenty fine doing that unfoundedly already hahah
Nah
Brainy05-Sep-21 06:31 PM
So he keeps returning under new accounts and new names?
Krial05-Sep-21 06:31 PM
Cab usually makes it very obvious though
He just asks for a 500 word apology and links a webm of him dancing
1
Lol
Brainy05-Sep-21 06:33 PM
So there's a way to deal with this if it appears they are using another account, it's their user ID.
It's a long string of numbers like this: 222600278220734466
If you enable Developer Tools in Discord settings, you can Copy ID from a username to compare. But ideally we'd want a bot keeping track of this and doing it for us automatically.
Krial05-Sep-21 06:33 PM
Luckily at the moment we don’t have repeat chain offenders needing that type of punishment yet.
Brainy05-Sep-21 06:34 PM
My concern is we don't want someone rejected for being a minor slipping back in just because they changed their name and they're not Nitro (so their user # changed).
Having the bot catalog it and warn us can go a long way. Especially if the person returns on a new account years later with the same name.
Because what a lot of them will do is claim to be "17" or something hoping to get let into adult communities because they're "close enough" to 18.
Then it turns out they were actually 14 at the time.
Basically if a user has at any time admitted to being a minor, we don't want to risk letting them back in, because they could (and 99% do) lie about their age.
Krial05-Sep-21 06:37 PM
The only issue with that though, if they’re lying, we can’t exactly verify it
Brainy05-Sep-21 06:37 PM
That's why I say it's safest for us to never allow those users in at all.
Krial05-Sep-21 06:37 PM
If they say 17, wait a year and come back, are we just going to keep blasting em?
Brainy05-Sep-21 06:37 PM
Because the only alternative is to ask for a physical ID / government ID.(edited)
Krial05-Sep-21 06:38 PM
Ehh. I think it depends. Like u511 came back when he got kicked
And now is in the navy and all that Jazz
And we’ve asked for ID before, dude just photoshopped it super well
It’s one of those tough calls on are they perma’d period, or for a few years
Brainy05-Sep-21 06:38 PM
People can enlist at 17
Some countries also have mandatory military service at ages where they are minors
Krial05-Sep-21 06:39 PM
Oh yeah but he’s US and active duty
This was like 2 years ago I think
Brainy05-Sep-21 06:39 PM
I mean I hate to be that person. I don't know him and maybe that's true. But he (or anyone else) could also be lying.(edited)
Krial05-Sep-21 06:39 PM
Just using it as an example
Since he’s clearly of age now
Brainy05-Sep-21 06:40 PM
The issue is if someone is lying basically.
Krial05-Sep-21 06:40 PM
Plus, most of us tbh started browsing when we were underage
It’s one of those things that is handled on a case by case basis
Brainy05-Sep-21 06:40 PM
So while he might stand out as the exception, the question is whether we want to take that risk upon ourselves, knowing all the coomer culture we have here on Discord and at meetups.
Krial05-Sep-21 06:41 PM
So long as they aren’t allowed here, and are removed when identified and users notified, that’s all we can do really.
I mean in certain groups, you can still find Ivan running around and those people know damn well he’s underage
The problem is there’s no realistic way to enforce a ban in vrc meets
Best we can do is votekick on sight
Krial
So long as they aren’t allowed here, and are removed when identified and users notified, that’s all we can do really.
Brainy05-Sep-21 06:42 PM
That's true. That's why I'm saying, if a user is known to us to be a minor, we're taking substantial risk allowing them back under any circumstance based solely on what they are telling us. It's dangerous to assume someone who said they were 17 at the time is now 18 just because they said they were 17. That's the caution I'm providing here.
Krial05-Sep-21 06:42 PM
If we ask certain people suspected of keeping contact with em knowing they’re underage
To like show their friends list, they’d just remove and readd(edited)
Brainy05-Sep-21 06:42 PM
Because the reality is we have foreknowledge of that user being a minor and we're making no effort to verify they are of legal age before letting them back in.
Krial05-Sep-21 06:42 PM
Oh no totally, I got what you’re saying.
Brainy05-Sep-21 06:42 PM
Just asking them politely isn't really verification basically.
Krial05-Sep-21 06:42 PM
But wouldn’t the more dangerous one be the one that just says they’re 18 and we move on?
Brainy05-Sep-21 06:43 PM
Neither is trusting that they told you the truth about their legal age at the time of ban.(edited)
They're complaining here as if it's gone, but I still see it?
Black Lily05-Sep-21 09:27 PM
No
B is just retarded(edited)
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Stannic06-Sep-21 03:05 AM
that or it's not available to see in time out status since gaybaby and time out doesn't get updated too often when new chats are created
but that's their problem for personally requesting time out and then bitching in melty lol
Black Lily08-Sep-21 12:42 AM
Honestly I think it's kinda shitty to kick a guy then put up an arbitrary restriction for his re-entry
Krial08-Sep-21 12:49 AM
It's a meme.
Eva actually doesn't care lol.
I'm friends with him
We've been joking about it for a good bit
Black Lily08-Sep-21 12:50 AM
I'm well aware but still
🔇08-Sep-21 01:57 AM
it wasnt arbitrary tho, he said he would make a video, so i want him to keep his word and make one (:
Distoibed08-Sep-21 01:59 AM
He put himself behind those restrictions
./a.out09-Sep-21 09:18 AM
working on this 1 month timer thing, so you're gonna see "testDude" joining the server a couple of times, tis I
*date
ExecutiveJackbotBOT09-Sep-21 09:21 AM
The current date is 9/9/2021 1:21:16 PM (UTC)
./a.out09-Sep-21 09:21 AM
*date
ExecutiveJackbotBOT09-Sep-21 09:21 AM
The current date is 9/9/2021 1:21:30 PM (UTC)
running on onions computer now
./a.out09-Sep-21 12:50 PM
Month timer is done. Gonna work on making it a bit nicer looking in the future, but for now when someone is kicked (or leaves), the bot will ask in #the-unclean if you want to add the 1 month timer to them and will tell you how to do it
The user that is kicked will not know they have a one month timer, they will just keep getting auto-kicked (and the timer will reset) until their time is up
Krial09-Sep-21 12:57 PM
Dry dope.
Very dope**
./a.out09-Sep-21 01:06 PM
made a *help section too now that we have a shitload of commands(edited)
gonna make that a dm to not clog up the channel
Krial09-Sep-21 01:27 PM
Yeah that’d be nice
Also make it not work in botspam
Otherwise ppl will figure it out accidentally
./a.out09-Sep-21 01:27 PM
i set it to only respond to mods since 90% of the commands are mod related lol
so the peeps are already fucked lol
Krial09-Sep-21 01:28 PM
Kk good
I don’t think jannies would need access to it tbh
No reason
./a.out09-Sep-21 01:29 PM
jannies can currently access it to see how the *timeout feature works
i can change that tho
also ported this nice little feature from the other jackbot that may or may not need to be removed in the future, but figured it was harmless enough to throw in :
*crap @Krial
ExecutiveJackbotBOT09-Sep-21 01:30 PM
Holy crap Louis! It's friggen @Krial!
Azuth09-Sep-21 01:31 PM
is there a list of commands written/pinned anywhere?
./a.out09-Sep-21 01:31 PM
all you gotta do is type "*help" and he'll dm you the commands
although june's bot also replies to that, so you get both bot's help pages lol
Azuth09-Sep-21 01:32 PM
neat
./a.out09-Sep-21 01:37 PM
the peter griffin thing may have already proven to be a mistake
Krial09-Sep-21 02:01 PM
Shotposting features are fine
People spam them for like 30 mins
Then stop
For months at a time
./a.out09-Sep-21 02:01 PM
very true, that's what i'm banking on lol
Brainy09-Sep-21 03:46 PM
Could also make a command to execute the kick through the bot, automatically creating the timer. That's how I do it with Valk bot
Good work BTW
Also does the bot message people to let them know there is a timer before they can return?
./a.out09-Sep-21 03:57 PM
thank ya thank ya. I could definitely throw in a kick command, that'd be easy. I set it to ask when someone leaves cuz I figured people would forget to use the bot to kick people, but I could have both options on for whichever people want to use.
The bot doesn't message them, that way they don't get the impression of "oh if I come back in a month they'll definitely let me in"
./a.out
thank ya thank ya. I could definitely throw in a kick command, that'd be easy. I set it to ask when someone leaves cuz I figured people would forget to use the bot to kick people, but I could have both options on for whichever people want to use.
The bot doesn't message them, that way they don't get the impression of "oh if I come back in a month they'll definitely let me in"
Distoibed09-Sep-21 04:04 PM
could you make it so that the bot sets a random time between 1 and 3 months?
because I do think that later on, the 1 month timer will be common knowledge
but if it's always random, it's hard to tell when they can get back in
./a.out09-Sep-21 04:14 PM
Ooooooo I like that idea
I can do that
Dal29009-Sep-21 05:14 PM
@Azuth cleaned up the message for that weird join bot, I'll keep watch for any additional joins
Azuth09-Sep-21 05:15 PM
seems we're not done with their shit
June09-Sep-21 05:24 PM
I see no reason to leave that message from cab there
its graffiti
🔇09-Sep-21 05:29 PM
Having it 1, 2, or 3 months would be weird. Having it based on days would be better. Between 20~60 days or something. Larger amount to randomly choose from.
Dal290
@Azuth cleaned up the message for that weird join bot, I'll keep watch for any additional joins
June09-Sep-21 05:30 PM
reported that bot to discord, banned it and blocked it
Brainy09-Sep-21 11:17 PM
Wait so we don't want people knowing when they can attempt to come back?
🔇10-Sep-21 12:09 AM
no, because then they will just wait for the timer to expire
Pineapples10-Sep-21 12:13 AM
If you tell someone "Come back in about a month or so and maybe we'll possibly reconsider" then they take that as "Come back in 30 days and we will let you in."
Dal29010-Sep-21 01:49 PM
I was just passed a tip about somebody named Ithilien being underaged scouting around lately, I'll follow up and see if this shit is true or not
Krial10-Sep-21 04:54 PM
Aight. Noted.
What circles he frequent?
@Dal290
Dal29010-Sep-21 04:54 PM
No idea, as usual it was just a dm, I have nowhere to start, I'll just have to poke around the usual places
I am going to settle my bet on
trash
Brainy10-Sep-21 05:55 PM
What's their Discord name? I'm not seeing Ithilien in the list.
Dal29010-Sep-21 05:56 PM
In VRC
They might be silly and try and drop by the discord eventually, but I want to try and handle business like this asap
VRChat needs to make an r18 system so we don't have to worry about underage lurking around I swear to fuck
Krial10-Sep-21 06:06 PM
Nope, they wanna keep that shit pg13
So the streamer retards can emulate their favorite twitch starlet
Distoibed10-Sep-21 06:26 PM
PG18 will tank their audience
thye want to be representable to kids
I'm not saying kids should be groomed, but they are willing to turn a blind eye to it to retain their audience and secure their money
Distoibed
PG18 will tank their audience
Dal29010-Sep-21 06:34 PM
Rec Room has a system for "I don't want to see kids", one of these days they are going to have to bite the bullet
I hope it isn't from massive media attention or something and we don't get shot up in the crossfire of that
Azuth10-Sep-21 06:49 PM
Adding an r18 filter means acknowledging that r18 shit happens
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which doesn't make investors happy
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but they know cracking down on it will cause a large part of the user base to leave
so we're stuck with don't ask, don't tell until a major scandal happens
Dal290
Rec Room has a system for "I don't want to see kids", one of these days they are going to have to bite the bullet
Perrine10-Sep-21 07:30 PM
holy shit maybe I'll try recroom again
Jason10-Sep-21 08:28 PM
i was very bored when i tried rec room
Mumu from NYC10-Sep-21 08:29 PM
I just want the underage to stop
Brainy11-Sep-21 01:44 AM
They don't want to add true age gating to the game. It's easier (and more profitable) for them to market it to as wide an audience as possible (13 or older to abide by COPPA) and pretend there is no grooming or sexualization of minors happening, so they don't have to police it in any way. They don't even have a real T&S team to handle reporting.(edited)
They can also deny there's adult content in the game by pointing to the fact they have rules against adult content.
Black Lily11-Sep-21 01:51 AM
Yet they won't take down fetish worlds no matter how many times people report them(edited)
Brainy11-Sep-21 01:52 AM
VRChat is a huge source of this now and it's remarkable they act as a company like it's not even happening.
It's fully within their power to introduce proper age gating and other restrictions.
If not proper reporting / documenting, but they're not.
Self-exploitation is like 90% of cases now and in the VRChat environment there are adults who may not even be seeking out children and having inappropriate / adult interactions.
As in, it should be possible to gate worlds, have them be labeled only for adults, and have parental controls within the game itself.
The answer isn't to have rules against adult content or deny that adult content exists or is accessible.
The answer is to restrict access to it from accounts that in many cases they actually know to belong to minors.
Their marketing and UI/UX is literally grooming, that's my hot take lmao
Perrine11-Sep-21 03:44 AM
The more I get exposed to actually underaged people, the more I'm amazed anyone can stand talking to them for any length of time
Or I suppose, the older I get, the less I even want to acknowledge they exist. Build a wall.
Recroom was horrible because of all the high pitch voices and kids who think being a rampaging annoyance is the coolest thing ever
and I remember Echo had the same problem once they made it free to play or whatever
Distoibed11-Sep-21 03:53 AM
I have the same problem @Perrine
80% of childeren i can't stand
it's how they talk for me
if they talk loud and obnoxious I cannot stand them
Perrine11-Sep-21 03:53 AM
Yeah. It's weird, aging, because that never used to bother me when they were my peers
but now?
holy fuck get away from me
My ears are bleeding
Dal290
Rec Room has a system for "I don't want to see kids", one of these days they are going to have to bite the bullet
Distoibed11-Sep-21 03:55 AM
recroom first needs the kids to sign in as underaged
every pacifier sucking idiot knows there will be severe limitations if they do that
Perrine
Recroom was horrible because of all the high pitch voices and kids who think being a rampaging annoyance is the coolest thing ever
Black Lily11-Sep-21 04:02 AM
People our age still do this
Perrine11-Sep-21 04:05 AM
Yeah
It's a bit less prevalent with age, though
Perrine
Recroom was horrible because of all the high pitch voices and kids who think being a rampaging annoyance is the coolest thing ever
Brainy11-Sep-21 05:55 AM
When they used to join my TF2 servers I used to have a policy of literally permamuting them on the whole server lmao
Pineapples11-Sep-21 10:02 AM
Based.
Perrine11-Sep-21 01:07 PM
Perrine11-Sep-21 07:50 PM
A friend, unrelated and unprompted, was compatibility about eva being in the welcome channel?
Black Lily11-Sep-21 07:52 PM
What
Perrine
A friend, unrelated and unprompted, was compatibility about eva being in the welcome channel?
And their Instagram is just ass shots of their avatar
Distoibed12-Sep-21 03:44 AM
I'll be sure to bring that up if hé ever approaches me about discord shit
But from what I know, he hangs around the hugbox EUs
Black Lily12-Sep-21 03:48 AM
He's in welcome if you want to do it now
Distoibed12-Sep-21 03:50 AM
Nah, gonna wat dinner and brush my teeth
Honestly wanna Just unclean him
Distoibed12-Sep-21 04:04 AM
uncleaned him
@./a.out are the dates d/m/y or /m/d/y
Black Lily12-Sep-21 04:06 AM
American
./a.out12-Sep-21 05:00 AM
Yea, its m/d/y
Distoibed12-Sep-21 05:11 AM
ohyeah
@/u/GemManBad the guy we just kicked is brewing up a big melty in the thread
Black Lily12-Sep-21 05:24 AM
But he's not mad
Distoibed12-Sep-21 05:31 AM
obviously not
supposedly he's also from the netherlands, so I'll have a field day with him if he tries to bitch at me in vrc
Krial12-Sep-21 05:34 AM
Actually
His thread crying is based
Though
Dal29012-Sep-21 05:49 AM
Gud shit :yes:
./a.out12-Sep-21 05:52 AM
An excellent read
Black Lily12-Sep-21 06:06 AM
I'm so glad we didn't let them in
Guno12-Sep-21 06:33 AM
reminder that m/d/y in written format makes more sense based how you explain what day something is going to be held on, at least on average(edited)
ill never understand how theres a divide on that
but semantics
./a.out12-Sep-21 06:48 AM
A lot of EUs grew up on d/m/y, aka the WRONG way
Gahd damn commies
Guno12-Sep-21 06:50 AM
Given how old language was, it makes sense though
"on the eighth of march, whatever the fuck year it was"(edited)
nobody speaks like nearly as often in modern day compared to "on march eighth, whatever year it was"
also god damn is my spelling a mess atm
Distoibed12-Sep-21 06:52 AM
saying "month/day" in my language isn't bad, but you'll get a wierd look of "dude, just say [day/month]"
Guno12-Sep-21 06:53 AM
its basically the inverse of imperial / metric
Pineapples12-Sep-21 06:54 AM
I don't really want to clog up this channel with off-topic conversation, but the day is what changes most frequently and is usually the most important thing to check. You can lose track of what the current day is, but most likely you're know the month.
Brainy12-Sep-21 06:54 AM
Even though d/m/y is the most logical, so many Americans will get it wrong and do m/d/y because it's what we're taught in schools here.
Guno12-Sep-21 06:54 AM
I get that side of the logic, but i often think its more important to not get the month wrong
day dont matter if you're off by an entire several months(edited)
Brainy12-Sep-21 06:54 AM
Also I just saw the whole discussion in #general and now here. The profile is Japanese. Are they Japanese?
Guno12-Sep-21 06:55 AM
no rainy, unlike imperial/metric, i see more reasons for m/d/y over d/m/y, so its definately the other way around on "what they were taught" :^)
but its more of a preference thing than imperial/metric, ultimately
so pointless to discuss it further anyways
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Brainy
Also I just saw the whole discussion in #general and now here. The profile is Japanese. Are they Japanese?
Distoibed12-Sep-21 06:56 AM
from what I heard, he's dutch but probably a foreigner who can't speak the language
t.dutch
Brainy12-Sep-21 06:57 AM
Ohh so they speak in Japanese instead of English? Interesting
Distoibed12-Sep-21 06:58 AM
if I had to make a guess, he uses jap letters cus he's a weeb
spoke with him before but forgot everything
Brainy12-Sep-21 06:59 AM
I'm looking over his Twitch and it seems pretty tame. Mostly him walking on a treadmill or something and hopping to public worlds.
I haven't seen the thread today, just how nuclear did he go in it?
I guess I could check it now
Distoibed12-Sep-21 07:02 AM
it's a good read if you want to see him being angry
Brainy12-Sep-21 07:04 AM
Yeah reading it now lol
I honestly don't think their Twitch is anything to be concerned over. I don't see them streaming any meetups in VOD history. But if you want to keep out the coomers then that Twitter profile is kind of a giveaway
They're pretty salty in the thread though
Guno12-Sep-21 07:06 AM
Yeah if they arent caught streaming meetups, people can hang with coomers if they want imho. but the salt wew
Pineapples12-Sep-21 07:07 AM
I don't think anyone paid attention to his Twitch or cares much about it. It's the Twitter account that's full of red flags.
Brainy12-Sep-21 07:08 AM
Yeah I'm scrolling down his Twitter and it's all coomer stuff
Even the IRL crossdress cosplay he posts of himself is coomer oriented lol
Pineapples12-Sep-21 07:10 AM
Oh god, what?
SPOILER
The fuck?
SPOILER
Guno12-Sep-21 07:11 AM
what the heck is the bottle there for
like even for being a makeshift dildo theres gotta be better options
Brainy12-Sep-21 07:21 AM
That's actually among the tamer things on the Twitter lol
He told me at a meet when I asked him why no vr “I have literally no interest in it”
Distoibed12-Sep-21 03:51 PM
dex has vr
Krial12-Sep-21 03:53 PM
Not dex
Dal29012-Sep-21 03:53 PM
No the new giyI assume
Krial12-Sep-21 03:53 PM
Ziron
Guy in welcome
He’s that desktopper from trash who has the monika avatar
He came to Friday meet and I asked him why he didn’t have vr and he said “absolutely no interest in it” so here we are.
Dal29012-Sep-21 03:53 PM
THIS is so sad
Why admit that I don't get it
Perrine12-Sep-21 03:54 PM
Because people aren't thinking, they're proud of their opinions and desires, and a hint of entitlement
The problem is that we aren't a social group for vrchat, we're a vr group for 4chan
What you need to be a part isn't vrc, it's vr. Also 4chan.
Krial12-Sep-21 03:55 PM
He didn’t know
He’s not like, doing it maliciously
He actually just has no clue people hate desktoppers or anything.
It wasn’t like a snub haha I’m never getting vr and you can’t stop me
He was just being honest
Distoibed12-Sep-21 04:02 PM
guess it's just the wrong person in the wrong instance
@Perrine beautifully worded
Black Lily12-Sep-21 04:22 PM
I'm getting the feeling that he's underage
Krial12-Sep-21 04:29 PM
He definitely didn’t sound it
I’ve heard him talk, sounds old
Black Lily12-Sep-21 04:34 PM
So he's just retarded
Krial12-Sep-21 04:34 PM
Yeah. Says he’s 26 in thread
And makes uh, less than 10k a year at his job
Black Lily12-Sep-21 04:34 PM
How
Krial12-Sep-21 04:34 PM
Hmm. Lol. I think buying a rig and vr is the last thing he should be doing.
Black Lily12-Sep-21 04:35 PM
He could get a job at any grocery store right now and make more than that
Krial
And makes uh, less than 10k a year at his job
Distoibed12-Sep-21 05:16 PM
same, but that was when I was 15
Meeps12-Sep-21 05:28 PM
just gonna bring this up for us to talk about. looks like scoop used discord to shill his event thing and then kicked anyone that used the pass they put in the discord ad, or something like that. i wasn't there and i don't really know all the details, but if he's going to do that, we probably don't want to let him announce there right?
just saw acti being upset about it so figured i'd throw it out there for discussion
Krial12-Sep-21 05:31 PM
Scoop wasn't in charge of event, just got roped into helping with it.
ExecutiveJackbotBOT12-Sep-21 05:31 PM
Das racist
Meeps
just gonna bring this up for us to talk about. looks like scoop used discord to shill his event thing and then kicked anyone that used the pass they put in the discord ad, or something like that. i wasn't there and i don't really know all the details, but if he's going to do that, we probably don't want to let him announce there right?
Dal29012-Sep-21 05:32 PM
It is a great deal more complicated then that, but basically miscommunication on purpose even within the parties communicated with
This is a self solving situation, they felt the heat from people going fuck you guys you do this shit we won't go to them enough
Krial12-Sep-21 05:33 PM
I think the backlash, and no one even going to the dumbass thing after they shit it up on purpose will likely chill them the fuck out.
Dal29012-Sep-21 05:33 PM
I already laid out a lot of my issues with yuki in a private conversation among a few others, but basically they get the idea that ruining events aint kosher
If anything they pulled off what needed to happen, some traffic back to the thread, hopefully people stick around this time haha
Meeps12-Sep-21 05:36 PM
im just saying, if they're going to use the discord to shill their events only to kick the people from here then maybe we shouldnt let them shill their events here
June12-Sep-21 05:36 PM
yes
that was intentional trolling and abuse of event planning here
do we care to police that?
also isn't #events meant to not be chatted in
Dal29012-Sep-21 05:37 PM
I agree, I don't like the idea of actively being hostile, we can filter their crap if they do something like this again, but I guess we should just keep this kind of junk in mind
June12-Sep-21 05:37 PM
it should have a hour slow mode or something so people can post only one event message a hour (and so we can delete non event posts)(edited)
Dal29012-Sep-21 05:37 PM
My biggest beef is them being cowards again and using grizly to do their dirty business
Dal290
I agree, I don't like the idea of actively being hostile, we can filter their crap if they do something like this again, but I guess we should just keep this kind of junk in mind
Meeps12-Sep-21 05:37 PM
yeah, that's fine for me
Dal29012-Sep-21 05:37 PM
Probably pumped him up and told him he was going to be based if he pranked the evil discord people
June12-Sep-21 05:38 PM
dont know the dude, but I don't like manipulation
Meeps12-Sep-21 05:38 PM
yes, that's exactly what it was
June12-Sep-21 05:38 PM
remember when people tried that gaslighting all the time
used to be 24/7 talk
when even the longest running anti discord members have caved and come to at least workshop discord at this point, there isn't two camps
its like 99% overlap
Dal29012-Sep-21 05:39 PM
That has been my butting heads arguement for the last few days
June12-Sep-21 05:40 PM
for or against?
Dal29012-Sep-21 05:40 PM
"why can't the discord just seperate" because there is pure overlap and people use both fuck you ect
June12-Sep-21 05:40 PM
yeah exactly
Dal29012-Sep-21 05:40 PM
Talking with the anti-discord fucks
June12-Sep-21 05:40 PM
like yeah I get there are some autists that hate discord so much they only have a alt in here to troll for salt
but god damn no one has a good reason to hate it
its not like the evil discord killed their first born child
Dal29012-Sep-21 05:42 PM
I agree with the problems I saw of /vrg/ becoming too much of a discord influenced community, and the discord was harboring way too much anti-thread I am here just for the discord sentiment
That has changed since the nuke, and despite dealing with bullshit political bs, it has gotten better
I cannot agree with people who want to control the thread or police it from their own inner circles or organized shitflinging gangs though, the same way I disagreed with how the discord was influncing things.
I kind of hate how many people lost sight of just chilling the fuck out in vr and that is the sole objective
Meeps
just gonna bring this up for us to talk about. looks like scoop used discord to shill his event thing and then kicked anyone that used the pass they put in the discord ad, or something like that. i wasn't there and i don't really know all the details, but if he's going to do that, we probably don't want to let him announce there right?
Black Lily12-Sep-21 05:45 PM
Doesn't scoop consistently host events just to piss people off though
June12-Sep-21 05:46 PM
semi regularly
was he part of the dance one
with the stage
Black Lily12-Sep-21 05:47 PM
The idol event?
Yeah
June12-Sep-21 05:47 PM
that one had mostly regular intentions right(edited)
Black Lily12-Sep-21 05:47 PM
With the like fifteen minute discord segment
June12-Sep-21 05:48 PM
I didnt stay for the whole thing, whats that
Krial12-Sep-21 05:48 PM
Idol event was fine
Only shit posting that came from that was CAB.
Black Lily12-Sep-21 05:48 PM
I was at work as I am during literally every event
Meeps12-Sep-21 05:49 PM
yeah scoop had cab on with a bunch of discord drama stuff because i muted him a year ago
Krial12-Sep-21 05:49 PM
Valentines was also fine.
Valentines and Idol I think are technically the only "scoop" events.
I think he likes to do trolling with his events yeah, but clearly this time it went too far
Distoibed12-Sep-21 05:49 PM
I just think of "scoop events" as bait events with conditions to be let in
Krial12-Sep-21 05:49 PM
That being said, you already know who I think was behind this years shit storm
if I had to take a wild fucking guess
Distoibed12-Sep-21 05:50 PM
wasn't it yuki?
cus he made a big apology video post
Krial12-Sep-21 05:50 PM
Did he?
Black Lily12-Sep-21 05:50 PM
Randomhero and his main simp?
Krial12-Sep-21 05:50 PM
Nah, yuki made the TSA room.
Didn't use an alt.
If I had to take a wild fucking guess with the fact that it had an insane amount of bullshit barely working tech, I'd say the event was him
Distoibed12-Sep-21 05:51 PM
I don't know shit about RH though, I just blocked him the first time I heard him cus I couldn't stand his voice
Black Lily12-Sep-21 05:53 PM
I was temped to do the same the first time I heard him
Distoibed12-Sep-21 05:53 PM
Only thing I know is that they had to convince the map maker to do this year's event map again after assuming he'd have made the map anyways
Meeps12-Sep-21 05:57 PM
im pretty sure the randomhero group were the one's behind grizly posting the announcement
he hangs out with them sometimes, very good guy but he is easy to influence
Distoibed12-Sep-21 05:57 PM
was about to say the same(edited)
Black Lily12-Sep-21 06:02 PM
He's been playing poker with them for a while since dai rai, quillo, and spice don't get in vr as much anymore
Krial12-Sep-21 06:21 PM
Grizly is very sweet boy
That’s the most heinous part imo
Have some balls and post your shit yourself.
Black Lily12-Sep-21 06:23 PM
But they still have a discord account
I don't understand why a lot of people seem to think if someone is in the discord that means they don't go to the thread anymore
Krial12-Sep-21 06:48 PM
Because they are mentally disabled
Azuth12-Sep-21 06:49 PM
Scoop takes the idol event seriously because he fucking loves idols
Every other thing he's planned that I'm aware of has been a shitpost
As for Yuki, the guy did admit the pass idea backfired as both a prank and as a vetting system, so I don't think we need to ban shilling his stuff unless they go full retard and pull this shit again
plus in my opinion he has more hits than misses, things like the sports festival were legitmately impressive and fun events
Krial12-Sep-21 08:22 PM
@Black Lily that’s the mamamad simp I think
I’m like 99% sure
That sido guy
Used to go by something the arab
Black Lily12-Sep-21 08:23 PM
A few of them have kITE and snak added
@Krial you can ask them a few questions if you want only two of them are still here
I'll add notes to all of them
Krial12-Sep-21 08:27 PM
Kk
Doubt they answer
Dal290
I agree with the problems I saw of /vrg/ becoming too much of a discord influenced community, and the discord was harboring way too much anti-thread I am here just for the discord sentiment
Guno12-Sep-21 08:58 PM
Yeah I always just wanted the discord as a way to talk with VR-interested individuals outside of anonyminity, makes it easier to organize co-op stuff and talk about non vr stuff, hence why the thread is still important for having the focus on VR fully
both sides just blowing up on the other when both can easily coexist
Krial12-Sep-21 09:22 PM
Good lord
Can prolly just ban the sindo guy @Black Lily. He’s just trolling and going to give fake names to frame people.
Black Lily12-Sep-21 09:23 PM
That's mamamad's alt that she used to crash the event
kITE got banned for it
Krial12-Sep-21 09:24 PM
Yeah.
Black Lily12-Sep-21 09:25 PM
I would prefer kITE not be in the discord as well but whatever
Dal29012-Sep-21 09:34 PM
You know my thoughts on that, if people are enabling or bringing the people around who are crashing events, we should bop em
Black Lily12-Sep-21 09:34 PM
@Krial I gotta drive to work so somone needs to take over
Dal29012-Sep-21 09:38 PM
@Krial@Black Lily I just thought of a way to resolve something like mamamad simp situations like this, would it be a bad idea to add an interview VC to quickly verify who it is?
Black Lily12-Sep-21 09:54 PM
It's not hard to find mamamad from the way she types
Black Lily
I would prefer kITE not be in the discord as well but whatever
June12-Sep-21 09:58 PM
I keep forgetting the wrongs that people do, but whats your main gripes with him
Black Lily12-Sep-21 09:59 PM
It's mostly private reasons
June12-Sep-21 10:02 PM
well we cant kick/ban for that
Black Lily12-Sep-21 10:03 PM
He kinda just treats people like shit then makes some half assed apology and thinks that fixes everything
June
well we cant kick/ban for that
Black Lily12-Sep-21 10:03 PM
Of course not
June12-Sep-21 10:03 PM
have you called him out on it?
Black Lily12-Sep-21 10:04 PM
Yeah I have
June12-Sep-21 10:04 PM
you did your part then
Black Lily12-Sep-21 10:04 PM
Shit's years old at this point
June12-Sep-21 10:05 PM
yeah I dont like to discuss old beef
anything more than a year ago should stay dead in this community imo(edited)
case by case of course
Black Lily
@Krial I gotta drive to work so somone needs to take over
Krial12-Sep-21 10:07 PM
Kk sorry was baking
I can now if it’s not handled.
Black Lily12-Sep-21 10:07 PM
Ye, I'm just making my bias known
Krial12-Sep-21 10:07 PM
June12-Sep-21 10:08 PM
bread
Dal29012-Sep-21 10:08 PM
June12-Sep-21 10:09 PM
can we have people chat less in events?
I'd like to enforce minimal / no chat in there, so people scanning for current events can actually find them quickly
Pineapples12-Sep-21 10:12 PM
Yeah, looks like letting anyone post shit there wasn't the best idea.
I thought it was fine before when we just gave permissions to specific people who actually post events somewhat regularly.
June12-Sep-21 10:15 PM
tbh
its pretty clean past the most recent shit show of a event
I'm gonna just clean it up and make a message
Krial12-Sep-21 10:16 PM
1hr slow mode
Is fine
June12-Sep-21 10:21 PM
not needed, people just need to get removed from events if they abuse it at all
they got their one and only warning
Meeps12-Sep-21 11:37 PM
yeah i shouldve called that out in a different channel my b
Black Lily12-Sep-21 11:37 PM
Please be kind to Grizly
Dal29012-Sep-21 11:39 PM
The manipulative bullshit is nobody wants to be mean to be grizly, they get off and direct people at an innocent newfriend dude
The word grimy doesn't cover it
Stannic12-Sep-21 11:42 PM
this weekend has been a shitshow huh
Meeps12-Sep-21 11:49 PM
he knows what i meant
wasnt being mean to him
Black Lily13-Sep-21 12:09 AM
Got some context from kITE about the group of retards that joined earlier
Apparently it's a bunch of skids that are friends with his ex trying to dox and fuck with him(edited)
Brainy13-Sep-21 12:56 AM
People targeting kite?
Black Lily13-Sep-21 12:57 AM
They probably weren't here specifically to do that but it's the same people
Distoibed13-Sep-21 01:18 AM
Idk if im reading it right, but are you guys going any deeper with mamamad than a ban on sight?
Black Lily13-Sep-21 01:20 AM
There's no need to go further than that
Distoibed13-Sep-21 01:20 AM
Since you're talking about personal reasong
And how you cannot kick mamamad for those
Black Lily13-Sep-21 01:22 AM
I was talking about kITE not mamamad
Distoibed13-Sep-21 01:22 AM
Ah
Distoibed13-Sep-21 01:30 AM
Kite's alright until you're trying to bond with him
Which can be a massive redflag
June13-Sep-21 12:55 PM
can we remove the edits from the jannie actions channel, I dont really think its needed anymore
I dont think it would be an erosion of transparency to remove it, but we could do a general vote on it
Black Lily
Apparently it's a bunch of skids that are friends with his ex trying to dox and fuck with him (edited)
Stannic13-Sep-21 01:35 PM
so i'm guessing mysiel's orbiters are targeting him now?
Distoibed13-Sep-21 01:50 PM
how much of an 1-dimensional background character do you have to be in order to follow some schmuck's orders because "he's my ex and I don't like him"
Stannic13-Sep-21 02:13 PM
i heard stuff about mysiel and definitely believe she should be gate kept from the community
Mumu from NYC13-Sep-21 02:17 PM
I don't like the guy but that's epic cringe
Distoibed
how much of an 1-dimensional background character do you have to be in order to follow some schmuck's orders because "he's my ex and I don't like him"
June13-Sep-21 02:28 PM
anime tier writing (shit)
Stannic13-Sep-21 03:49 PM
Dear lord what the fuck was joining last night
Stannic
Dear lord what the fuck was joining last night
Black Lily13-Sep-21 03:58 PM
Someone posted the invite link in the trash thread
Stannic
i heard stuff about mysiel and definitely believe she should be gate kept from the community
Black Lily13-Sep-21 04:01 PM
She's an absolute cunt
Stannic13-Sep-21 04:01 PM
oh
yes she is
she threatened me that i'll lose all my friend connections from her and especially to anon27
to which i told her to go fuck herself and hopefully she ends her life before 30
Black Lily13-Sep-21 04:01 PM
She doxed a guy because she changed her mind about sending him nudes
Stannic13-Sep-21 04:01 PM
and this was when she was underaged too
lmao
in context of the doxx at least
good thing the block function is great to avoid her and the endless accounts
and her crazy ass ex
Distoibed13-Sep-21 04:08 PM
wait what
Stannic
she threatened me that i'll lose all my friend connections from her and especially to anon27
Distoibed13-Sep-21 04:08 PM
are you saying that you'll lose all of your friends due to her?
I'm too ESL to understand what you said
Black Lily13-Sep-21 04:08 PM
She was thretening to talk shit about him to anon27
Stannic13-Sep-21 04:08 PM
yep
or that
Black Lily13-Sep-21 04:09 PM
Which I'm sure would have gone really well
Stannic13-Sep-21 04:09 PM
I went to anon and told him that she angy that i blocked all her accounts because i found out she was crazy
and he told me "oh so that's why"
Distoibed13-Sep-21 04:10 PM
a test of friendship
Black Lily13-Sep-21 04:10 PM
I made a vrchat account called altsarecreepy and blocked all of her alts on it
Stannic13-Sep-21 04:10 PM
but there was some hint that she also wanted to snip my other friends from me too which i don't bother to hang around with anymore
Black Lily13-Sep-21 04:10 PM
She was having a mental breakdown about it for days(edited)
Stannic13-Sep-21 04:10 PM
Distoibed13-Sep-21 04:11 PM
you guys over at N/A hours sure have some spicy personalities
Stannic13-Sep-21 04:11 PM
nah kite and her are their own little bubble
Black Lily13-Sep-21 04:11 PM
She isn't an anon
Stannic13-Sep-21 04:11 PM
It was with kern's gang at least
and why i stopped visiting kern's group
just too much headaches
Distoibed13-Sep-21 04:11 PM
I know she's not an anon, but she gets in the meetups (I think from what I am seeing)
Stannic13-Sep-21 04:11 PM
she got in the meetings through some friends she made along the way
and now i guess some orbits her or she joins off them without them knowing
Distoibed13-Sep-21 04:12 PM
when will tupper bring out the guild update
Stannic13-Sep-21 04:12 PM
soon™️
Distoibed13-Sep-21 04:12 PM
then the true gatekeeping can begin
that'll be a shitshow
Black Lily13-Sep-21 04:12 PM
Wasn't that planned for summer?
Stannic13-Sep-21 04:12 PM
yes
Black Lily13-Sep-21 04:12 PM
It's almost fall
Stannic13-Sep-21 04:12 PM
but if we learned anything from playmaker
Black Lily
Wasn't that planned for summer?
Distoibed13-Sep-21 04:12 PM
like the new ui
and soon the new dynamic bone?
Stannic13-Sep-21 04:13 PM
it'll be next year
Black Lily13-Sep-21 04:13 PM
It'll be in two years
Stannic13-Sep-21 04:13 PM
Distoibed13-Sep-21 04:13 PM
I got playmaker from unity when it was on a big asf massive sale(edited)
Black Lily13-Sep-21 04:13 PM
If only they didn't waste their time on udon
Stannic13-Sep-21 04:14 PM
inb4 guilds have a 60 slot free limit and you need to pay for more slots(edited)
Stannic
inb4 guilds have a 60 slot free limit and you need to pay for more slots (edited)
Distoibed13-Sep-21 04:14 PM
vrc+ gets unlimtied
Black Lily13-Sep-21 04:14 PM
60 is too generous
Stannic13-Sep-21 04:14 PM
yeah
30 slots with packages for increased slots
gotta milk groups like the IWA somehow
Black Lily13-Sep-21 04:15 PM
Meeps can pay for it
Stannic13-Sep-21 04:18 PM
yeah meeps
Krial13-Sep-21 05:56 PM
I pay for
;D
Distoibed13-Sep-21 06:06 PM
The start of the Krial arc
The thread was right about you...
June
can we remove the edits from the jannie actions channel, I dont really think its needed anymore
Brainy13-Sep-21 06:08 PM
I second this 10,000%. I hate having to do twice the work because someone edited a post 5x and now I have to delete it in there too.
I missed the earlier discussion, but are we talking about that chick from before who threatened to report the server when we denied her?
June13-Sep-21 06:11 PM
since I'm not getting pushback on it, how do I disable edits posting to the jannie actions channel @🔇@Black Lily
Brainy13-Sep-21 06:11 PM
If she lied about her age at any point to get in here or meetups, I have no problem banning her until she's fucking 30.
1
Black Lily13-Sep-21 06:13 PM
I have no idea
June13-Sep-21 06:13 PM
rock on
what the fuck bot commands is that
Black Lily13-Sep-21 06:14 PM
I'm an old man that doesn't understand how bots work
?help
I forgot it dms you the command list
DynoBOT13-Sep-21 06:14 PM
Why did the A go to the bathroom and come out as an E? Because he had a vowel movement.
June13-Sep-21 06:14 PM
ahaha
?help
whoever has the dyno account needs to do it
asylum I'd guess
🔇13-Sep-21 06:32 PM
yeah ill get on it lol
Distoibed
The start of the Krial arc
The thread was right about you...
Krial13-Sep-21 06:33 PM
Wat
No I pay on alt account I don’t have password to lol
Distoibed13-Sep-21 06:34 PM
I was joking
Krial13-Sep-21 06:34 PM
I swear to fuck I’m autistic
And can’t discern jokes lol
🔇13-Sep-21 06:34 PM
June
asylum I'd guess
🔇13-Sep-21 06:35 PM
should be good.
Distoibed13-Sep-21 06:35 PM
Nah, my Jokes are kinda different
🔇
should be good.
June13-Sep-21 06:35 PM
thanks babe
Brainy13-Sep-21 06:41 PM
I'd just remove the entire channel TBH. It's low value and just a public archive for posts users regret and/or we have acted against.
Krial13-Sep-21 06:43 PM
Eh I like it becuase
People do that “post and delete” thing to be funny
And you can just go see what they deleted lol. Plus if we tried to remove it people would flip. We tried before and they voted it down
🔇13-Sep-21 06:43 PM
the reason we had edits logged is because people were going back and editing all their messages so we cant bring them up against them
🔇
the reason we had edits logged is because people were going back and editing all their messages so we cant bring them up against them
Brainy13-Sep-21 06:47 PM
I think that can make sense for a mod channel. But as a public channel it's still something we have to actively moderate twice.
It's also a channel we're unlikely to monitor.
Couldn't we just make it a moderator channel and purge what's in there after X months?
Krial
And you can just go see what they deleted lol. Plus if we tried to remove it people would flip. We tried before and they voted it down
Brainy13-Sep-21 06:50 PM
So in your opinion there could be strong backlash if we do try to remove it?
Krial13-Sep-21 06:50 PM
Yep
They’d prolly say we’re covering shit up
There already KIND OF was when it was proposed to be removed a while back
Brainy13-Sep-21 06:51 PM
I mean they're right. We're covering up the history of their moderated post so some asshat doesn't report it to Discord.
Krial13-Sep-21 06:52 PM
More so they’d think we’d be hiding who did what etc
Brainy13-Sep-21 06:52 PM
Sounds like a lack of trust in us more than anything
🔇13-Sep-21 06:53 PM
people will always scream mod abuse anyways
fuck it
Brainy13-Sep-21 06:54 PM
I feel like we have such a diverse group in here that people should trust someone would speak out in that situation.
If we kept the channel, but just made it a mod/jannie view only, then there would still be a record of accountability known to the entire team here.
We could also keep it safe by purging what's in there every X months.
Krial13-Sep-21 06:55 PM
I think leaving it public
But have it purge every 2 months
Is a suitable solution for accountability.
Brainy13-Sep-21 06:56 PM
That's true, that also works
Krial13-Sep-21 06:56 PM
Leaves it open to view, and is easy to deal with then.(edited)
Brainy13-Sep-21 06:57 PM
I think either of those options would work
We could try out the purge every 2 months if you guys think there would be significant blowback to removing the channel.
🔇13-Sep-21 06:59 PM
i can do that with maid bot
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
although limit is 2 weeks
Brainy13-Sep-21 07:00 PM
2 months, 2 weeks, what's the difference?
Dal29013-Sep-21 07:38 PM
In the case for people editing their messages with or without proof the system has kinda relied on just trust us bro in the end. It looks sus as fuck most of the time anyway and people will cry anyway, deleting stuff twice sounds like a pain so the simplr solution is cut out logging or get it to tell if a message had images attached.
Also fuck phones holy cow
🔇
although limit is 2 weeks
Stannic13-Sep-21 08:02 PM
yeah no one will remember in 2 weeks
🔇13-Sep-21 08:04 PM
let me know if i should remove the clear ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
June14-Sep-21 02:01 AM
hm
well that does kinda murder the point of the channel
users cant lookup who did x a long time ago
but I dont really know if thats needed anymore anyways
Dal29014-Sep-21 02:17 AM
Also going to bring up a concern from acti, apparently velvet has been talking about like, literal gov secret crap or something about his job too loosely, ideas on how to handle this or if it is a problem?
Krial14-Sep-21 02:22 AM
It’s not a problem
If velvet wants to risk his job posting people’s meme companies
That’s on him. We aren’t legally liable in any regard as companies privacy policies start with the company and employees and end there.
He can be retarded all he wants.
Azuth14-Sep-21 02:22 AM
yep, even if it was actual govt secrets the only guy liable is him
just like that retard that leaked british tank stats in the war thunder forums
Krial14-Sep-21 02:23 AM
All he’s posting is funny names and funny company brands. Half of them are fake anyways.
I love acti but he has a hate boner for velvet
That stays here obviously.
Dal29014-Sep-21 02:24 AM
Yeah its hard to parse complaints when there is an obvious bias, but the velvet potentially getting fucked in the future is a concern
Krial14-Sep-21 02:24 AM
Like the one he posted today was “owner name: Wayne, company name: Arkham enterprises”
An obvious fake company Batman joke
Dal29014-Sep-21 02:24 AM
Personally I think if somebody was actually trying we could all get fucked p hard
Azuth14-Sep-21 02:24 AM
hardly
Krial14-Sep-21 02:24 AM
Nah. It wouldn’t fall on us.
Azuth14-Sep-21 02:24 AM
we're not at any risk receiving the secrets
if you like, do any insider trading with it than maybe
Krial14-Sep-21 02:24 AM
At worst velvet would get fired for having his phone out taking pictures during his job duties
Dal29014-Sep-21 02:25 AM
No I mean abusing personal information in a broad sense
Azuth14-Sep-21 02:25 AM
but hearing it?
Krial14-Sep-21 02:25 AM
He’s not even doing that.
Dal29014-Sep-21 02:25 AM
If somebody was dumb enough to do something like that, it would have happened
Krial14-Sep-21 02:25 AM
This is what he posted.
Keep that in perspective as well.
Dal29014-Sep-21 02:25 AM
BATMAN
Krial14-Sep-21 02:26 AM
at most he’s posting the equivalent of “name: seeymore butts”
Dal29014-Sep-21 02:26 AM
Going to sawcon north of deez
Azuth14-Sep-21 02:27 AM
People in /vrg/ do retarded, dangerous, and illegal things for a laugh pretty regularly
my personal view is that as long as they're not endangering others, let em fuck around and possibly find out
Azuth
my personal view is that as long as they're not endangering others, let em fuck around and possibly find out
Dal29014-Sep-21 02:28 AM
Yee I am glad the worst we had happen was like, minor breaches of trust so far
Azuth14-Sep-21 02:29 AM
shit like backstabbing and doxing is just part of the internet community life
every community gets it when they get big enough
4chan or not
you learn to protect yourself and recognize patterns and move on
June14-Sep-21 02:48 AM
Azuth
just like that retard that leaked british tank stats in the war thunder forums
Jason14-Sep-21 04:19 AM
i'd take the jail time to stick it to the smug ass slav devs
Brainy14-Sep-21 05:05 AM
Besides the Batman joke, what is he posting that is potentially NDA or problem causing?
Krial14-Sep-21 05:06 AM
Absolutely nothing.
A long time ago he posted a picture of a document with a company name on it.
That’s literally it.
The document wasn’t even legible nor was it confidential
Brainy14-Sep-21 05:08 AM
I agree with all that was said on this BTW. The best we can do is have someone who is friends with him reach out and say they're concerned he could be posting something that jeopardizes his job. Maybe they could mention they're concerned a bad actor could weaponize it against him, or use it to dox him, that sort of thing.
Krial14-Sep-21 05:08 AM
We already did. I told him to stop because it could fuck up his job, he said he wasn’t post anything bad and his boss didn’t care, so I said “aight ur funeral”
It’s at this point a non issue.
Brainy14-Sep-21 05:09 AM
I'd say if he posts anything with PII that could be used to harass a person (including him), then we could remove it. Such as a photo ID or something along those lines. But I doubt he'd be stupid enough to post anything like that. I'd like to think (and hope) that he's aware of the rules around classified information and hasn't been showing us anything that would get him into trouble.
Krial14-Sep-21 05:10 AM
He’s retarded. But not that retarded
Brainy14-Sep-21 05:11 AM
Balanced as all things should be
Stannic14-Sep-21 11:32 AM
no he's that retarded
ExecutiveJackbotBOT14-Sep-21 11:33 AM
I'm crying RN
Stannic14-Sep-21 11:33 AM
velvet will do anything for atintin
which is why he posts that shit because it's guaranteed positive interactions
Brainy
I agree with all that was said on this BTW. The best we can do is have someone who is friends with him reach out and say they're concerned he could be posting something that jeopardizes his job. Maybe they could mention they're concerned a bad actor could weaponize it against him, or use it to dox him, that sort of thing.
Stannic14-Sep-21 11:34 AM
someone already figured out where he worked from triangulating the bs that is the buildings and skyscrapers to know where he works at
Krial14-Sep-21 11:34 AM
Did they rly
Lmfao
Stannic14-Sep-21 11:34 AM
from just him posting a picture of the view from his office place
he said it in the last discord
Krial14-Sep-21 11:35 AM
I have his address but that’s because I mailed him some shit
Stannic14-Sep-21 11:36 AM
good thing the last discord was nuked because apparently the building he works from is easily found
He lives in one of those bigger cities and the worst part is that this job involves someone from his family that got him in?
all i'm saying is that the further he goes with this dumb shit he'll find himself fired and barred from other jobs too due to breach of trust all because he needs atintin
ExecutiveJackbotBOT14-Sep-21 11:38 AM
Das racist... wait no it's not
Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.
Krial14-Sep-21 11:41 AM
We aint his guardians
And I ain’t baby sitting a grown ass man no matter how much they need it
Stannic14-Sep-21 11:41 AM
same
Distoibed14-Sep-21 11:42 AM
¯\(ツ)\/¯
We'll see how hé ends up
Stannic14-Sep-21 11:43 AM
ask acti if he wants to be velvet's personal tard wrangler and have abillities to mute him if he's so concerned
Distoibed14-Sep-21 11:44 AM
Nah
Acti hates him
And I just made velvet realize it
Stannic14-Sep-21 11:44 AM
dman
i guess i'll skim through it and risk the last few brain cells
Distoibed14-Sep-21 11:45 AM
Through what?
Krial14-Sep-21 11:45 AM
Yeah. Acti reaaaally hates velvet
And Carl lol
Distoibed14-Sep-21 11:45 AM
If he doxxes himself its on him
If he posts sensitive company info it's on him
Krial14-Sep-21 11:47 AM
@Distoibed new guy in welcome pretty much blatantly admitted to being spoonfed, but dooki fucking with OP constantly
And him having headset and clearly being a 4channer
All good? I figured so just wanted a second opinion
Distoibed14-Sep-21 11:47 AM
I mean...
Krial14-Sep-21 11:47 AM
He was posting in the thread this morning(edited)
Before even applying
Distoibed14-Sep-21 11:48 AM
Spoonfed for me means he's not 4chin and got fed info to pass the interview
You can let him in if you can
Stannic14-Sep-21 11:49 AM
considering the amount of dumb shit regarding the general due this weekend
i'd start recommending them to friend krial and do a vouch in there to get the link
or anyone on the mod team for the invite link
and is it seriously yuki fucking with the OP now?
How petty can you fucking go
Krial14-Sep-21 11:50 AM
No proof
But I figure
And yeah @Distoibed I think that’s a muuuuch better approach til things get sorted out with OP
Clearly not 4chan and trying to get in and spoonfed? Yeha fuck off
4chan, has a headset, no major issues? Sure
Stannic14-Sep-21 11:54 AM
i've had some asking for the link and i told them to get you guy's discord info
and yeah going with distoibed on that
ExecutiveJackbotBOT14-Sep-21 11:54 AM
I'm crying RN
Stannic14-Sep-21 11:54 AM
or gets the link from someone else
which can be countered easily by asking a question related to what the inviter's interests are and see what he would reply with and if it ain't original and likely the inviter's interest then raise some suspicions
Distoibed14-Sep-21 12:09 PM
I have yet to see a guy who's into /pw/
Stannic14-Sep-21 12:11 PM
ask them what an RKO is
ExecutiveJackbotBOT14-Sep-21 12:29 PM
Das racist
./a.out14-Sep-21 01:39 PM
I fucking die everytime I see that name
Krial14-Sep-21 01:42 PM
Onion pen is sending new shit for jackbot to respond to slurs with btw
U good with update?
./a.out
I fucking die everytime I see that name
Mumu from NYC14-Sep-21 02:13 PM
It's so good
Perrine14-Sep-21 02:40 PM
Hey, what's the rules on #movies ? Could I hold a poll for when to show a movie?
Krial14-Sep-21 02:47 PM
Last time I did that I used #voting
Perrine14-Sep-21 02:48 PM
ah. Well, in any case I'm narrowing down a time already
Krial
U good with update?
./a.out14-Sep-21 05:31 PM
hellz yea, sounds good
Krial14-Sep-21 05:35 PM
Aight I’ll bug pen when I’m awake for lost
Lost
List
Black Lily14-Sep-21 09:14 PM
Why does acti hate Velvet
Didn't the guy hand deliver him a new gpu
Dal29014-Sep-21 09:20 PM
He hates out of concern for him from what I can see
Perrine
Hey, what's the rules on #movies ? Could I hold a poll for when to show a movie?
Pineapples14-Sep-21 09:33 PM
Personally, I'd put it in #movies. I assume a lot of people don't check the voting channel, but anyone who wants to watch movies would keep up with the movie channel.
Dal29014-Sep-21 09:37 PM
It wouldn't be a bad idea to try and get a poll bot for something like movies
🔇14-Sep-21 10:10 PM
?poll
DynoBOT14-Sep-21 10:10 PM
Command: ?poll
Description: Start a poll (max 10 choices)
Cooldown: 10 seconds
Sub Commands:
?poll show - Show the results of a poll
Usage:
?poll [message] "[choice1]" "[choice2]"
?poll show [message ID/link]
Example:
?poll Which is better? "Cats" "Dogs"
?poll show 736731115531927602
Perrine14-Sep-21 10:11 PM
?poll Is Asylum comfy? "yes" "yes"
DynoBOT14-Sep-21 10:11 PM
Is Asylum comfy?
1️⃣ yes
2️⃣ yes
3
2
2
1
Perrine14-Sep-21 10:22 PM
wait you can't reply with another option
that's illegal
Guno15-Sep-21 12:20 AM
I literally just readded workshop channel, and for whoever removed it, "Just use dals discord" isnt an option (for me :^))(edited)
came up mostly regarding the movie work in case I decide to stream some storyboarding, but Nothing wrong with having a space for it(edited)
🔇15-Sep-21 12:21 AM
doesnt mentle have a discord for the movie tho?
Guno15-Sep-21 12:22 AM
I mean he does but they're also doing work in dal's cord, and besides that I dont see why we shouldnt have one for those who want to use it
Dal29015-Sep-21 12:22 AM
@🔇 thanks again fam
Guno15-Sep-21 12:22 AM
tldr: if dal is gonna solo admin his own server, then we're gonna need a workshop here(edited)
Dal29015-Sep-21 12:23 AM
Really appreciate it
🔇15-Sep-21 12:23 AM
just use any of the others, they arent used enough as is to warrant more channels
Guno15-Sep-21 12:23 AM
I mean okay? we've seen all but four fill up at least once the past week
all but channel: four
that is
🔇15-Sep-21 12:23 AM
having a dedicated channel for workshop is dumb when we dont have much in there
Guno15-Sep-21 12:24 AM
For now I'll agree with you on it
but if activty does pick up we'll probably need it back
Dal29015-Sep-21 12:24 AM
Nah how about for a never, it is entirely ironic that the guy who forced the quota of kicking people out of workshop got kicked out of workshop
You force this subject more I'll just reel out the historical documents on this guno, going to thank @🔇 for modding you once again
Guno15-Sep-21 12:24 AM
and I'll thank him for remodding you
youra ttitude is abyssmal dal
yeah, kicked out of workshop soley because you have the sole final call on your server
and then you came in here and whined about being kicked behind your back
you were trying really to keep your issues with me private for no real reason
Dal29015-Sep-21 12:27 AM
That I created after talking to hundreds of people to run the way I saw fit, you are a distraction and demand too much attention through and through and that is not even regarding the history of what you just did for the last two ish years.
🔇15-Sep-21 12:27 AM
i get it you two dont like each other, shut up
Dal29015-Sep-21 12:27 AM
Well you created this situation frozen sorry to say XD
Maybe next time discuss the idea of moving people up
Guno15-Sep-21 12:28 AM
thats the part you're bothered by? seniority, even if i didnt do a lot. I was called in for a singular reason originally, and you were the only one really voicing concerns about it
because outside of workshop (which did have issues) there werent many voice issues
Dal29015-Sep-21 12:29 AM
Do you really want me to unwrap the full situation
I'll fukken do it
This is a full episode of fuck around
You will find out
🔇15-Sep-21 12:29 AM
we never discussed moving guno down either, so.....
Guno15-Sep-21 12:30 AM
I mean itll only out you more than you already have, you balloon anything someone does to massive proportions while everyone else keeps their beefs with you mostly on the downlow
dal, my only point is you massively overstep yourself in how "others act"
Dal29015-Sep-21 12:30 AM
Alright we are doing this
Guno15-Sep-21 12:30 AM
you are the biggest vrg example of the pot calling the kettle black
🔇15-Sep-21 12:31 AM
anyways, both of you can stop being retarded
Guno15-Sep-21 12:31 AM
its impossible to defend anyone from you because you always deflect it with "yeah but they're ____"
and ill stop there, thats all there IS to it
and I'll also agree with you that honestly I didnt need to be remodded, not yet anyways. Because the reality is yes that voice is pretty dead atm, and thats my only real purpose to "moderate"
I was fine with janni for pic/badword cleaning
Dal29015-Sep-21 12:41 AM
@here basically for the last year and a half when I stepped up as a mod due to the many issues of guys like zan/neko/cattus and others just camping around I started running workshop with a minor kick policy. This issue was solved when many people were able to stop by and some were fine with it, the issue remained I had to negotiate with guno because he was a big ol mod and had the same old powers as I did, so I ended up having to balance things with yuru and him on doing a full kick if no gaming policy.
I had to balance out two entirely seprate calls so that guno could have fine people to talk to, that was fine, for the first month. I had to keep that shit up for a year and a half, I talked to dozens of people about how I had to kick them because thems was the breaks, as many of you know that wasn't too big of an issue, but it forced me to be in the crossfire of many people thinking I was a big mean jannie and put in nearly triple the workload just to be in a fucking call with people and kick out just a few problematic fuckers.
Towards the end of the yuru era of issues I was having to ban movies, talk to people daily and enforce that dumb policy otherwise guno would come down and talk about noita for hours at a time or something. I had to do something I didn't want to do, talk to people in a way I didn't like, and damage friendships with people to keep up this bullshit for way too long, some people still hate me because I had to slamacow down on them.
I created my own workshop server to boot out problematic users and just run things the way I saw fit went through hell to created it too, lot of people agreed with how that was done, but here I am having guno sit down on the couch and asking me to do things for him and provide a social environment for free. I was minorly frustrated by this fact and tried to talk to him recently after having a few bad games and complaints, pretty much babysitting /vrg/'s voice again.
I got a full coddled wall of somebody who has been enabled too long telling me I should just do what I didn't want to do, boot people to be "fair", fuck that shit, I created that server with the express purpose of having workshop run the way I wanted it to run. He has abused his position here to join locked channels and force the issue with workshop too many times for me to be comfortable with.
TLDR: I would be willing to discuss the idea of workshop here, don't like the idea because I pretty much built its name and worked my ass off for it, the guy who compromised and abused his position sure as hell shouldn't be the guy to try and push that, and I am honestly disappointed in @🔇 for not discussing modding, de-modding, and creating an issue where I have to wrestle with guno once more.
I kicked the guy who made me kick people, eat a dick basically
Guno15-Sep-21 12:47 AM
dal, you have definately abused your position more than I have
(because I dont act nearly as much as you)
but I dont really have much tos ay outside of dal being impossible to please
Dal29015-Sep-21 12:47 AM
I literaly do not deny that, I will also say when tyranny becomes law and all that
Guno15-Sep-21 12:47 AM
plenty of things you say are entirely true, but are nowhere near as bad as you make them out to be
the main one being your last comment
Dal29015-Sep-21 12:48 AM
To put this as lightly as I can, I am still repairing relationships with people because I was playing your way
Guno15-Sep-21 12:48 AM
I kicked people, and then you got modded because i wasnt kicking enough
and that seemed fine to me because ultimately workshop is your baby
Dal29015-Sep-21 12:48 AM
You didn't do anything really what do you mean
Guno15-Sep-21 12:48 AM
I didnt BAN people from workshop
is what you mean(edited)
Dal29015-Sep-21 12:49 AM
You forced a quota, making me have to boot people, because the second I didn't, you would pop down and lose your fucking mind
That subject was butted on so many times I had to compromise how I was running it to keep up with your god damn inability to accept no
Guno15-Sep-21 12:49 AM
no for what?
wait, I would come downa nd lose your mind?
Dal29015-Sep-21 12:49 AM
Get the fuck out if you distract people, it was that simple at the start
Re-read the above
Guno15-Sep-21 12:50 AM
and thats why i started letting you handle it
because our definitions of distracting people were too different
and still are
outside of stuff like malicious intent
Dal29015-Sep-21 12:51 AM
Then you didn't accept it many times, I had to argue with you multiple times so I had to adjust how I was doing it to keep up with your bullshit
Guno15-Sep-21 12:51 AM
again, a lot of your issues seem to stem with me just being a mod and I could care less because i dont give a shit if im a mod or not
Dal29015-Sep-21 12:51 AM
You were the main factor for why I had to go hitler in workshop, to be "fair"
Guno15-Sep-21 12:51 AM
But at the time you didnt want to
and I was asked
Dal29015-Sep-21 12:51 AM
And refused many times
I had to adjust way too much
Guno15-Sep-21 12:54 AM
All I can say is im sorry im not up to your standards of moderation
insert jensen "I didn't ask for this"
Dal29015-Sep-21 12:54 AM
Don't take up moderation if you don't want it and can't keep track of bullshit like this
Guno15-Sep-21 12:55 AM
now that? that is where ill ask other people on their opinions
because its always you vs. me
Dal29015-Sep-21 12:55 AM
I know, which is why I moved shop entirely to stop dealing with a wrestle
Guno15-Sep-21 12:55 AM
From my point of view, you want to moderate far more than most people do here
which is why i wanted you demodded
because its become obvious you just want to control how chat is entirely
not just workshop
Dal29015-Sep-21 12:56 AM
Because I take the thing seriously I was asked to do, and entirely intend to do what should be done?
Guno15-Sep-21 12:56 AM
sorry dal
im gonna butt in there
From what i heard
you basically threatened to become mod
at the time you were modded, it was under the threat of leaving with workshop
Dal29015-Sep-21 12:57 AM
Yeah because you were letting guys like cattus and the other rambletards camp shit
I had to take up your job because you didn't do it, you then compromised how things worked, then compromise how things work now
Guno15-Sep-21 12:58 AM
which fair enough, detach your workshop sooner then
because again, they were as bad as you were implying i felt
Dal29015-Sep-21 12:58 AM
How fucking much more of this moderation do you want to do like this
Guno15-Sep-21 12:58 AM
I almost never agreed with you on your calls, except tiger
Dal29015-Sep-21 12:58 AM
He was an underaged kid placeholder fucking groomed into here
To boot he hates the idea of 4chan and just wants to be here for a free social environment
This is a 4chan server not the camp for years if you hate the idea of chan and vr
Underaged when he joined btw, he was 16 when he got in
Didn't tell anybody like a smart cookie, but others knew, I fucking hate how nobody says shit or lets things like that go
If we didn't have enough of the fuck that voice around, orb would be admin, we would have kids in here, and shit would be kneel to yuru forever
I don't accept bullshit, I apologize for doing something about it
Guno15-Sep-21 01:01 AM
maybe mentally but i thought i remember hearing he was 20+? maybe im thinking of someone else(edited)
w/e though
or just lies, doesnt matter
Dal29015-Sep-21 01:02 AM
Anything else you want to embarrassingly air out or talk about after I carefully positioned myself to not harm you or resolve this peacefully
Guno15-Sep-21 01:05 AM
"not harm you" with? You already did man. theres not much else you can do at this point
Dal29015-Sep-21 01:05 AM
Guno I almost managed to dodge this entire situation and have you chill out with no harm and no foul
You have put me in a position where I need to speak the truth and defend myself from you saying otherwise
Guno15-Sep-21 01:05 AM
It never was gonna end that way, you've become a ticking time bomb in my eyes
Dal29015-Sep-21 01:05 AM
With all do respect, fuck you man
Guno15-Sep-21 01:06 AM
likewise
and what do you mean me chill out? ultimately this came from you having a melty, and you beign the server owner of the place people hang out for non-workshop stuff too now(edited)
Dal29015-Sep-21 01:07 AM
You, like you just did for nearly a year and a fucking half
Demanding I compensate for you and do things your way
Guno15-Sep-21 01:07 AM
yes, because I thought you were fine with it man
up until you werent
I was there to hang out with you even most of the time
specifically you
Dal29015-Sep-21 01:07 AM
I was never, and I voiced my opinion about dude you are stressing the point too much and compromising how I do things
Guno15-Sep-21 01:07 AM
sorry i liked hanging with you
i never ever entered study workshop pmuch unless i was actually working, and you yourself would just regularly game in workshop
server owner or no, you gotta be consistant if you wanna complain about stressing the point and comprimising
Dal290
Demanding I compensate for you and do things your way
Guno15-Sep-21 01:12 AM
also i have no idea what you mean by this sentence
Perrine15-Sep-21 01:12 AM
I've been trying to parse what's going on here for about 10 minutes now and even with that huge ping I'm still not sure I understand
A) What happened
B) What Guno thinks happened
C) What Dal thinks happened
D) What the beef is.
The start of this was Guno wanting a Workshop voice channel here because he's banned from Dal's workshop server, yeah?
And you two have a ton of prior beef, right? Guno wanting workshop run a certain way in Yurucord, and Dal saying fuckno and making his own workshop with blackjack and hookers?
And because you two have been beefing, Guno doesn't have access to Dal's workshop, and wants his own here?
I'm not trying to take any sides here, but if you're gonna do a big wall of text ping, I'd appreciate a bit more easily understandable context, history, or explanation, Dal... My brain is melting trying to figure out who is dumb and who isn't. Or if the both of you are dumb. I feel like a fucking psyduck.
Though reading the conversation history is similarly opaque and confusing between both of you, so I blame your shared history for that
Guno15-Sep-21 01:13 AM
No, i pretty much always gave dal the call on how workshop was once he took over(edited)
before that i just wasnt as hands on as he wanted me to be
Perrine
I've been trying to parse what's going on here for about 10 minutes now and even with that huge ping I'm still not sure I understand
A) What happened
B) What Guno thinks happened
C) What Dal thinks happened
D) What the beef is.
The start of this was Guno wanting a Workshop voice channel here because he's banned from Dal's workshop server, yeah?
And you two have a ton of prior beef, right? Guno wanting workshop run a certain way in Yurucord, and Dal saying fuckno and making his own workshop with blackjack and hookers?
And because you two have been beefing, Guno doesn't have access to Dal's workshop, and wants his own here?
I'm not trying to take any sides here, but if you're gonna do a big wall of text ping, I'd appreciate a bit more easily understandable context, history, or explanation, Dal... My brain is melting trying to figure out who is dumb and who isn't. Or if the both of you are dumb. I feel like a fucking psyduck.
Dal29015-Sep-21 01:14 AM
I was running workshop in here when I became a mod, I had to wrestle with guno every month or weekly about not dropping down and distracting people or never working just as I did for the very few people that it involved. Because I had guno kneeling over my shoulder or as I like to call it, putting a gun to my fucking head, I had to change things further and further, I talked to dozens of people about not showing up if they didn't want to work even if I knew they didn't disrupt things or nobody minded them. They minded him, I minded him, but I had to balance things with another mod excessively and enforce things in a shotty manner to keep up with him.
Guno15-Sep-21 01:15 AM
dal you keep make this about you you you you you
the way is ee it you were constantly putting a gun to MY head to DO WHAT I WANT
Dal29015-Sep-21 01:15 AM
I viewed it as a "sucks to suck but you appear to damage conversation" thing, I had to adjust it to be a no fun allowed pure study environment and it severely damaged my relations with people
🔇15-Sep-21 01:15 AM
Guno15-Sep-21 01:15 AM
because you are inconsistant with how your rules are, that was your only option ebcause thats how YOU are dal
Dal29015-Sep-21 01:16 AM
You assume to be the judge of that
Guno15-Sep-21 01:16 AM
yes
no gaming
games
no off topic
Dal29015-Sep-21 01:16 AM
In something you just said "I was allowed to do my thing"
Guno15-Sep-21 01:16 AM
off topics
Dal29015-Sep-21 01:16 AM
You didn't
You just admitted to that
Guno15-Sep-21 01:16 AM
I broke the rules and any time you brought them up i realize you were right and left
usually because you wereself were already breaking them
Dal29015-Sep-21 01:17 AM
I had to run things by the inactive shoddy mod
Guno15-Sep-21 01:17 AM
fuck off with your inactive bullshit
again
just because im not doing what YOu want
doesnt mean im not DOING
I come in, listen, see if its worth acting on
./a.out15-Sep-21 01:18 AM
In 8 words or less, what is the current issue at hand?
Guno15-Sep-21 01:18 AM
dal man bad, guno not do enough
./a.out15-Sep-21 01:19 AM
ok, what does guno want
and what does dal want
Perrine15-Sep-21 01:19 AM
So what I'm hearing is:
Dal believed Guno was being distracting in Workshop
Dal can't just say "fuck off" because you were both mods
If Guno wasn't "allowed" in because Dal thought he wasn't on-task, then he busted Dal's balls about others not being on-task as well to be equal.
And drama goes from there, is that correct?
Dal29015-Sep-21 01:19 AM
Guno compromised shop for like a year
Perrine
So what I'm hearing is:
Dal believed Guno was being distracting in Workshop
Dal can't just say "fuck off" because you were both mods
If Guno wasn't "allowed" in because Dal thought he wasn't on-task, then he busted Dal's balls about others not being on-task as well to be equal.
And drama goes from there, is that correct?
Dal29015-Sep-21 01:19 AM
If I can't have it sentiment
On repeat
🔇15-Sep-21 01:19 AM
as far as im concerned neither of you are "active" although dal has been more active since the shakeup not too long ago
Dal29015-Sep-21 01:19 AM
For months and weeks
Every god damn minute I felt guno's fucking big iron against my nuts
Perrine15-Sep-21 01:20 AM
To be clear, I have no idea if Guno was being distracting or not, nor do I really care to say someone here is in the right or the wrong
Guno15-Sep-21 01:20 AM
thats my main complaint here ultimately
can
anyone
Perrine15-Sep-21 01:20 AM
I'm just trying to figure out what the fuck we're even sperging about 'cause this has really become
Guno15-Sep-21 01:20 AM
AT ALL
Perrine15-Sep-21 01:20 AM
srs bsns
Guno15-Sep-21 01:20 AM
take dal's side
because the past severla interactions from dal have been him basically berating me for "making group calls awkward"
and its never anyone else backing him up
and makes me feel paranoid people are just not saying anything to me
Dal29015-Sep-21 01:21 AM
Guno you can't say I respected how you did things then say you are the judge of how I did it, you forced the subject so many times I had to compensate and compromise
./a.out
ok, what does guno want
🔇15-Sep-21 01:21 AM
tl;dr guno wants a workshop vc
i told him its not required rn since low volume, he said "okay"
Guno15-Sep-21 01:21 AM
i honestly dont care about the workshop VC!
it only came up cause im helping mentle with movie shit!
Dal29015-Sep-21 01:21 AM
I care that the abusive dude just got his mod back
./a.out
and what does dal want
🔇15-Sep-21 01:21 AM
tl;dr dal wants guno gone because of past issues
🔇
tl;dr guno wants a workshop vc
i told him its not required rn since low volume, he said "okay"
./a.out15-Sep-21 01:21 AM
Thank you
🔇15-Sep-21 01:21 AM
thats about what ive gathered
Black Lily15-Sep-21 01:22 AM
I don't see an issue with having a workshop vc in here
Guno15-Sep-21 01:22 AM
and i think dal steps past the abusive line far more than i do(edited)
Black Lily15-Sep-21 01:22 AM
A few people would probably use it
Perrine15-Sep-21 01:22 AM
Okay. I'm now of the opinion that this entire conversation and beef isn't suitable for discussion in the mod channel. It's personal beef that the two of you (and anyone else you may blame for exacerbating your beef) need to be working out in PM.
The only thing that's on-topic for the mod channel here is the discussion of the need for a workshop VC for this channel. And that's been discussed and resolved.
Dal29015-Sep-21 01:22 AM
You going to read what I typed or
Black Lily
I don't see an issue with having a workshop vc in here
🔇15-Sep-21 01:22 AM
yeah, we can rename an existing one rather than make a new one tho if needed
Perrine
Okay. I'm now of the opinion that this entire conversation and beef isn't suitable for discussion in the mod channel. It's personal beef that the two of you (and anyone else you may blame for exacerbating your beef) need to be working out in PM.
The only thing that's on-topic for the mod channel here is the discussion of the need for a workshop VC for this channel. And that's been discussed and resolved.
Dal29015-Sep-21 01:22 AM
I have to deal with it here because he is going to continue forcing the issue
Black Lily15-Sep-21 01:22 AM
I can't read
Dal29015-Sep-21 01:22 AM
I literally said I don't want to do this here
Guno15-Sep-21 01:22 AM
? it was a literal fact that the reason i had to make it ultimately was because im banned from dal's workshop
Dal29015-Sep-21 01:23 AM
In fact I begged
Guno15-Sep-21 01:23 AM
because i "break the flow" of the constant-chaos that is non-study workshop
which fair enough
his discord
Dal290
I have to deal with it here because he is going to continue forcing the issue
Perrine15-Sep-21 01:24 AM
He acquiesced to Asylum's decision regarding the Workshop VC. If you don't want him to be a mod for personal reasons, that's between you and the admin. If you don't want him to be a mod for specifically mod abuse or other behavior, then you can make your case here.
What's been shared here doesn't sound like a valid argument for removal due to mod abuse or other inappropriate behavior as a mod.
🔇15-Sep-21 01:24 AM
dal, the sad fact is that i dont see a reason to unmod guno other than he isnt actually doing anything. past offenses that were personally directed at you, intentional or not, arent really my or anyones problem here
Guno15-Sep-21 01:24 AM
honestly i dont even care about being mod, as said im fine with being janni
Perrine15-Sep-21 01:24 AM
That's my opinion on this wall of text and now I'm gonna go enjoy other stuff. Good luck to everyone.
Perrine
He acquiesced to Asylum's decision regarding the Workshop VC. If you don't want him to be a mod for personal reasons, that's between you and the admin. If you don't want him to be a mod for specifically mod abuse or other behavior, then you can make your case here.
What's been shared here doesn't sound like a valid argument for removal due to mod abuse or other inappropriate behavior as a mod.
Dal29015-Sep-21 01:25 AM
We just bopped the whole concept of admins together, you are too new to know but yeah, we are apparently in step with overruling each other and demodding and modding as we please
Guno
honestly i dont even care about being mod, as said im fine with being janni
🔇15-Sep-21 01:25 AM
which is why you were a jannie to begin with, but jannies cant disconnect users i think?
Guno15-Sep-21 01:25 AM
I dont know honestly
Dal29015-Sep-21 01:25 AM
This whole situation was created because aslyum took it upon himself to mod/demmod as he pleased
🔇15-Sep-21 01:26 AM
i mean, i told you previously that i talked to several people and it was agreed upon, not really my fault that those i talked to conveniently "forgot"
Black Lily15-Sep-21 01:26 AM
I remember
Dal29015-Sep-21 01:26 AM
So I should carefully plot out my stuff and then It'll be cool
Game of thrones bullshit I swear
🔇15-Sep-21 01:26 AM
yes, plot meaning discuss with others.
Dal290
We just bopped the whole concept of admins together, you are too new to know but yeah, we are apparently in step with overruling each other and demodding and modding as we please
Perrine15-Sep-21 01:27 AM
Then the only valid issue is whether or not the modding was appropriate and done in good keeping with the policy on promoting mods, and there is no avenue for you to discuss demodding someone for personal reasons at all.
🔇15-Sep-21 01:27 AM
im still in the "dal needs a fuckin break" boat. but that ships been sailed and sunk
Perrine15-Sep-21 01:27 AM
I didn't participate in any discussion on whether Guno should be modded or not, and have no opinions either way, so I cannot comment on that.
Perrine
Then the only valid issue is whether or not the modding was appropriate and done in good keeping with the policy on promoting mods, and there is no avenue for you to discuss demodding someone for personal reasons at all.
Dal29015-Sep-21 01:27 AM
We just voted on removing jannies and instead of doing that, we just added more mods
🔇15-Sep-21 01:28 AM
guno was a mod to begin with, so there wasnt any need for discussion
Perrine15-Sep-21 01:28 AM
I will again voice my opinion that things should be handled consistently and transparently in general, and if they're not being handled that way, then that's dumb
🔇15-Sep-21 01:28 AM
he joined later and i was being lazy
Guno15-Sep-21 01:28 AM
I'm pretty sure i flatout asked to be a janni, so i donno if it was even you being lazy
Dal29015-Sep-21 01:28 AM
So we discuss when it is convenient and simply take affirmative action when it was talked about loosely to a person or two
Guno
I'm pretty sure i flatout asked to be a janni, so i donno if it was even you being lazy
🔇15-Sep-21 01:29 AM
you said "just being jannie is fine"
and i left it at that
Dal290
So we discuss when it is convenient and simply take affirmative action when it was talked about loosely to a person or two
🔇15-Sep-21 01:29 AM
try like 12 people
Perrine15-Sep-21 01:29 AM
I'm going to step out for the night, I hope everyone is able to share their thoughts and concerns in a concise and useful manner. Good night everyone.
🔇15-Sep-21 01:29 AM
but sure
Perrine
I'm going to step out for the night, I hope everyone is able to share their thoughts and concerns in a concise and useful manner. Good night everyone.
Dal29015-Sep-21 01:29 AM
Night, sorry this bullshit dropped here
🔇
but sure
Dal29015-Sep-21 01:30 AM
Well your 12 people didn't back you this time just like people were about to hand orb admin
This place unfortunately needs a bit of this kind of shit
🔇15-Sep-21 01:30 AM
yeah, i mean the solution to that would be a fuckin dick and just do it anyways, but i dont want to do it like that
Dal29015-Sep-21 01:31 AM
Oh come on don't downplay that you tried to do and then say "well I can still stab you so hey"
🔇15-Sep-21 01:31 AM
why not?
Dal29015-Sep-21 01:31 AM
Thank you for not stabbing me in your loosely discussed demodding attempt
Black Lily15-Sep-21 01:31 AM
I still kinda feel like a dick for doing that to orb but it's the right thing to do
🔇15-Sep-21 01:31 AM
i still feel like orb should have gotten jannie at least
Black Lily
I still kinda feel like a dick for doing that to orb but it's the right thing to do
Dal29015-Sep-21 01:32 AM
A good few decisions need that kind of bullshit and the exact reason why I don't trust who is on the boat right now
Adding in another guno or two isn't going to help for shit
I wish dank would have stuck around but he threw a fit and left everything
🔇
i still feel like orb should have gotten jannie at least
Dal29015-Sep-21 01:33 AM
At this rate I would be down to try that too
🔇15-Sep-21 01:33 AM
anyways, ill shelf this for a bit. i think ill just unmod/jannie people that have had 0 actions during a period of time that is arbitrarily set.
thats the only unbiased way to handle it i guess
Dal29015-Sep-21 01:34 AM
Haha so a quota that can be kept up
Guno15-Sep-21 01:34 AM
yeah real talk Ill bring it up i actually offered to even step down from janni because Im flatout just not fast enough apparently, cause I havent even seen anything i needed to delete pic wise
actions can also just be discussions you know im not talking about just the audit log
🔇
anyways, ill shelf this for a bit. i think ill just unmod/jannie people that have had 0 actions during a period of time that is arbitrarily set.
Black Lily15-Sep-21 01:35 AM
I'd prefer if we voted for stuff like that but people aren't going to vote honestly if everyone can see their vote
Black Lily
I'd prefer if we voted for stuff like that but people aren't going to vote honestly if everyone can see their vote
🔇15-Sep-21 01:35 AM
yeah, and even if they cant see their vote, people will still "forget" their votes
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Black Lily15-Sep-21 01:36 AM
Because they don't want to deal with the backlash
Dal29015-Sep-21 01:36 AM
I wish people had the testicles to not fear what people would think if we voted yes to ban carl
Black Lily
Because they don't want to deal with the backlash
🔇15-Sep-21 01:37 AM
we can discuss the arbitrary quota in dm's at some point, ill just take responsibility for it
Dal290
I wish people had the testicles to not fear what people would think if we voted yes to ban carl
🔇15-Sep-21 01:37 AM
except i like carl
Black Lily15-Sep-21 01:37 AM
I don't care about carl
Dal29015-Sep-21 01:37 AM
Can you not discuss your closed door meetings please
It reminds me that you guys are doing that
🔇15-Sep-21 01:38 AM
no, we can have dm's
Black Lily15-Sep-21 01:38 AM
He seems to have kept most of his autism in happening recently
Dal29015-Sep-21 01:38 AM
Transparency my ass
🔇15-Sep-21 01:38 AM
i mean you guys are the ones that voted to keep #mods closed
Black Lily15-Sep-21 01:38 AM
The last time I dmed hidden was about my computer several weeks ago
Dal29015-Sep-21 01:39 AM
Well I carefully discussed with people who I didn't appreciate rainy being modded either but here we are, stepping in line with the aslyum decision
🔇15-Sep-21 01:39 AM
you complaining to me in dm's is also a closed door meeting
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Dal29015-Sep-21 01:39 AM
Please cut out discussing important decisions about the server in a higher council because you fear open discussion between 20 people
🔇15-Sep-21 01:39 AM
bring those complaints to lily in a dm if you dont want me to know, and they can unmod them
literally i havent heard any complaints except from you dal
Dal29015-Sep-21 01:40 AM
And 12 people loved me
🔇15-Sep-21 01:40 AM
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Black Lily15-Sep-21 01:41 AM
I do have my concerns about rainy being a little too "reddit" at times
Dal29015-Sep-21 01:41 AM
There is always more to it then that, but for the love of christ don't tell me you suck at communicating when you are deliberately avoiding doing so
Black Lily
I do have my concerns about rainy being a little too "reddit" at times
🔇15-Sep-21 01:41 AM
ive asked them to be like that
because for us to exist on discord without any issue, we need to have someone like that
Dal29015-Sep-21 01:42 AM
This rate I would have trusted the keys in June's hands more
Black Lily15-Sep-21 01:42 AM
That's fine I think the perspective is important so I haven't pushed for any change
🔇
because for us to exist on discord without any issue, we need to have someone like that
Dal29015-Sep-21 01:42 AM
We were fine for like, two years without that kind of voice
🔇15-Sep-21 01:42 AM
its not like they take any actions about the things they advise
Black Lily15-Sep-21 01:43 AM
And if rainy doesn't act differently as a mod then it's not an issue
Dal29015-Sep-21 01:43 AM
Hell people called me reddit haha
🔇15-Sep-21 01:43 AM
you also said you have had a lot of issues with how we moderate for the past 2 years too dal
Dal29015-Sep-21 01:43 AM
Hey some parts to a machine with many parts not working the best doesn't make the whole machine bwoke
Black Lily
And if rainy doesn't act differently as a mod then it's not an issue
🔇15-Sep-21 01:43 AM
mostly they just clean up #happening
Black Lily15-Sep-21 01:44 AM
Someone needs to
I'm not gonna do it
🔇15-Sep-21 01:44 AM
its a cesspool in there
Dal29015-Sep-21 01:44 AM
Thats great, but where did we decide that
Or do I just trust the next demod attempt or things like guno or the next fun bag of undiscussed jazz
🔇15-Sep-21 01:45 AM
dal why are you always hostile confrontation over text?
Dal29015-Sep-21 01:45 AM
I am not happy about what you just did in more ways then one
I am extremely civil all things considered
🔇15-Sep-21 01:46 AM
then do something about it?
ive given you the avenues you can take
Dal29015-Sep-21 01:46 AM
I am trying to talk and ask why you are assuming that you can make closed door decisions
Guno15-Sep-21 01:46 AM
and ill pipe up with Im not happy with you ignoring everything people do for you and then shitting on them
so i guess neither of us are
🔇15-Sep-21 01:46 AM
well, i didnt want you to fucking explode in mod chat, but that didnt happen
Dal29015-Sep-21 01:46 AM
I didn't either, but you modded the dude
🔇15-Sep-21 01:47 AM
thats why i kept it in dm's for several weeks with several people
Dal29015-Sep-21 01:47 AM
Why do you fear open discussion god damn
🔇15-Sep-21 01:47 AM
also guno was previously a mod and didnt need discussion
its not fear, its pointless shitposting like this
its annoying
its shit
Dal29015-Sep-21 01:47 AM
So cut it out and just assume control
🔇15-Sep-21 01:47 AM
it serves 0 purpose
Dal29015-Sep-21 01:48 AM
Fucking christ man, I want to not be mean
But this is feeling like aslyumcord, what do you want me to say
Thanks for fucking me in the ass
🔇15-Sep-21 01:48 AM
you already passed that line when you let me know you hated me (:
Dal29015-Sep-21 01:48 AM
I disagree with you
I do not hate you
🔇15-Sep-21 01:48 AM
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
i mean thems your words
Dal29015-Sep-21 01:48 AM
There is an important difference and where and when did I say I hated you
🔇15-Sep-21 01:49 AM
might have been said in a fit of passionate anger, but still your words
Dal29015-Sep-21 01:49 AM
You are making janky overruling decisions I am complaining about them
🔇15-Sep-21 01:49 AM
thats fine, complain about them
dont drag it on forever
you made a complaint about something ive done, and i gave you a solution to the complaint
Dal29015-Sep-21 01:50 AM
Aslyum
You did a thing
🔇15-Sep-21 01:50 AM
just because you dont like the solution, doesnt mean it isnt a solution
Dal29015-Sep-21 01:50 AM
Without discussing, or closing it off
I am not happy with that as I have to painfully discuss things
🔇15-Sep-21 01:50 AM
which thing specifically are you complaining about right now
Dal29015-Sep-21 01:51 AM
Why do you get to have and do the exceptions to the barely visible rules we just established
🔇15-Sep-21 01:51 AM
thats a question, not a complaint
what thing are you specifically complaining about
Dal29015-Sep-21 01:52 AM
How am I supposed to word this, dude you just modded and demodded and from what others said, not you, they didn't know
🔇15-Sep-21 01:52 AM
singular thing
is this about demodding you?
or about guno?
or rainy?
be clear
Dal29015-Sep-21 01:52 AM
Why am I supposed to trust that, and yes it is also about modding in general, why are you deciding that
🔇15-Sep-21 01:52 AM
one item dal
one item,
Dal29015-Sep-21 01:52 AM
We have to carefully discuss bans, modding or unmodding others is an important decision
🔇15-Sep-21 01:53 AM
dal, as ive said, i talked to people. and they agreed. just because they "forgot" doesnt mean it didnt happen
Dal29015-Sep-21 01:53 AM
From my perspective them limping out on you is a perfectly acceptable outcome and demonstrates how serious they were
You are modding or demodding as you please, I don't like that
🔇15-Sep-21 01:53 AM
so how about you instead of going "abuse abuse" how about you say what your fucking complaint is
Dal29015-Sep-21 01:54 AM
We agreed to have this server be a vote and discuss system and you are bypassing that
🔇15-Sep-21 01:54 AM
we voted and discussed
Dal29015-Sep-21 01:54 AM
On guno and rainy, and on me who your discussion panel chickened out on
🔇15-Sep-21 01:54 AM
there was no bypassing
Black Lily15-Sep-21 01:55 AM
People went limp because they knew how you'd respond not because they didn't feel that you needed a break(edited)
Dal29015-Sep-21 01:55 AM
I get that, but yes as somebody who just had to deal with that guno situation and had a mod I express doubts on being even a jannie after being demodded in a silent CQC takedown
What is unclear about my disapproval
🔇15-Sep-21 01:55 AM
literally no one except you knew about "the guno situation"
Dal29015-Sep-21 01:56 AM
Cool, but they knew about rainy, my point being
don't move the moderation around arbitrarily stop doing that don't do that talk about it it is extremely important
🔇
literally no one except you knew about "the guno situation"
Black Lily15-Sep-21 01:56 AM
He talked to me about a bit a while ago
Black Lily
He talked to me about a bit a while ago
🔇15-Sep-21 01:57 AM
we need to talk more than once every few months
Dal29015-Sep-21 01:57 AM
Lets talk in VRC, ngl having a mute bro is cool but fuck man I need to chat with you in detail
Or at least call
Black Lily15-Sep-21 01:58 AM
Actually I think he first talked to me about his issues with guno before he was originally made mod
🔇15-Sep-21 01:58 AM
hecc
Dal290
Cool, but they knew about rainy, my point being
🔇15-Sep-21 01:58 AM
i still dont see what your issue with rainy is
other than them doing the things ive asked
Dal29015-Sep-21 01:59 AM
He or she is too stuck up and will create problems within the userbase of this discord when they discover that, aside from the legal action stuff and talking a fuckload
I have actually burned out talking with them and that is hard to do, and previously chill mod chat talks have gone to shit with them jumping in
🔇15-Sep-21 01:59 AM
they literally only talk about issues about things in #mods
Dal29015-Sep-21 01:59 AM
Have you ever seen me burn out engaging somebody like shit
Things have toned down for sure, I am actually open to see were things go
But having the ability to discuss my feelings or having them regarded is kind of the point
🔇15-Sep-21 02:00 AM
maybe you should talk like a normal human instead of deflecting and being hostile then?
Dal29015-Sep-21 02:01 AM
I'll work on not talking in text form like a text based coom guy bashing heads in if that makes you feel better
I am loose because, well, where do you think we are
🔇15-Sep-21 02:01 AM
should i just devolve into pointing out every time you deflect, or are hostile?
Dal29015-Sep-21 02:02 AM
If you believe that would help, do try and point out some junk, I think I get what you mean by deflect, but I always viewed bringing up previous points as an important side branch to the conversation.
🔇15-Sep-21 02:02 AM
maybe being blatantly pointed about deflecting would help
Dal290
I'll work on not talking in text form like a text based coom guy bashing heads in if that makes you feel better
🔇15-Sep-21 02:02 AM
this is a deflection
Dal29015-Sep-21 02:02 AM
How so.
🔇15-Sep-21 02:02 AM
like a text based coom guy bashing heads
Krial15-Sep-21 02:03 AM
I think it’s a joke in dals perspective, and to outside viewers it’s someone making an over exaggeration to detract from the point made
🔇15-Sep-21 02:04 AM
jokes dont pass over text well, and just come off as passive aggressive
Black Lily15-Sep-21 02:04 AM
@Dal290 it's often difficult to understand what you're talking about because you don't just say what you mean
Krial15-Sep-21 02:04 AM
Not necessarily a deflection, but more so passive aggressive yeha
Dal29015-Sep-21 02:04 AM
Yeah I see that as a joke, in talking form it usually brings down the tension
Krial15-Sep-21 02:04 AM
Also I’m 400+ messages behind
But I can 200% get behind y’all need to talk through voice.
🔇15-Sep-21 02:04 AM
just ignore them tbh
its more of the same
Krial15-Sep-21 02:04 AM
Dal your humor doesn’t transition to serious topics through text very well at all and asylum can come off as dismissive
Dal29015-Sep-21 02:05 AM
Shit sucks we need to work on it all around
🔇15-Sep-21 02:05 AM
yes, most of us suck at communicating well
Krial15-Sep-21 02:06 AM
Hey, I’m a fucking expert tyvm
🔇15-Sep-21 02:06 AM
you are retarded over text
Krial15-Sep-21 02:06 AM
I’m retarded in voice too don’t worry
🔇15-Sep-21 02:06 AM
Krial15-Sep-21 02:07 AM
Also asylum
What you say is more of the same, is still a conversation that has been ignored and needed to happen regardless
I do agree it should 200% be done through voice with you guys though.
I told both of y’all that for weeks lol
Black Lily15-Sep-21 02:07 AM
If only hidden talked
Krial15-Sep-21 02:08 AM
No need for vrc
Dal29015-Sep-21 02:08 AM
We did talk about in a call recently but I felt I had to boil down nearly 2 years of context in a short 40 minute call
🔇15-Sep-21 02:08 AM
i ignore 90% of everything anyone says. i do read everything though
Krial15-Sep-21 02:08 AM
Do on phone
Also Dal I’m gonna disagree on removing inactive people
🔇15-Sep-21 02:09 AM
you can blame me having to do 5 hour meetings 2~3 times a week every week
Krial15-Sep-21 02:09 AM
Hard on that one
Dal29015-Sep-21 02:09 AM
Read the full thing above
Context is unfortunately important
🔇15-Sep-21 02:09 AM
i talked about removing inactive mods/jannies
Krial15-Sep-21 02:09 AM
I don’t think there’s any problem if someone’s straight up not doing anything to fulfill the role they were given and you remove em
That’s what I mean
People just need to not compete to do shit. That’s easy. If I see some shit in feedback to put in announcements and I’ve done the past 3, I ignore it and let someone else do it
One person shouldn’t be striving to do it all anyways. If you are, you’re a bad fit for the position full stop
It’s a team effort, and should always be treated as such
Dal29015-Sep-21 02:11 AM
My point boiled down to don't hand mod out without actual discussion, we agreed to hand jannie to some but I think deciding who is or isn't mod is a beyond important decision much like bans
4chan has an automated email system where if you don’t do anything in your jani or mod account for 30 days, it auto removes you
So if anything, implementing that here is even more similar to 4chan.
I agree mod is a much higher position and shouldn’t be set to the same standards
But jannies absolutely should be held to tighter restrictions.
Mod promotion voting is fine. I can agree that makes sense.
But Jannie prolly shouldn’t be voted too hardcore on giving OR removing
Just my 2 cents.
Also fun fact, idk if it’s someone in here, but VRG absolutely has an active Jannie in the thread.
Noticed it yesterday.
Black Lily15-Sep-21 02:14 AM
Couldn't be me
Krial15-Sep-21 02:15 AM
Someone keeps posting this pic
In the main thread
And it’s taken down in around 10 to 30 seconds.
Not taken down in trash though. So it’s a Jannie.
Dunno who it is. But figured y’all would like to know.
Distoibed15-Sep-21 02:16 AM
jelly meme turned into krial
Dal29015-Sep-21 02:16 AM
I found it entertaining, key difference is you have a job
ExecutiveJackbotBOT15-Sep-21 02:17 AM
GAMER???
Dal29015-Sep-21 02:17 AM
Yeah fucking thanks for making me have to have this conversation after butting heads with yuki for a few hours
Fucking christ man he doesn't switch up his speach his agenda any of it, terrible pokerface
Krial15-Sep-21 02:18 AM
Oh watch my event Dal.
Dal29015-Sep-21 02:18 AM
He practically gave me his intentions on a platter pissed me the fuck off
Krial15-Sep-21 02:18 AM
It’s gonna come to a head.
:^)
🔇15-Sep-21 02:18 AM
yuki tried to cancel ss
Dal29015-Sep-21 02:19 AM
He is most defininetly the guy mingling with the OP and he spelled it out in big letters while eluding to the fact
🔇15-Sep-21 02:19 AM
all the other organizers just said "you dont have to, but you cant cancel christmas"
Krial15-Sep-21 02:19 AM
Surprising absolutely no one.
Dal29015-Sep-21 02:19 AM
Nothing pisses me off more then a bad poker face when you are the kind of person who starts shit
🔇
yuki tried to cancel ss
Distoibed15-Sep-21 02:19 AM
ss?
🔇15-Sep-21 02:20 AM
secret santa
Distoibed15-Sep-21 02:20 AM
what in the
Krial15-Sep-21 02:20 AM
Grinch who stole Christmas
Distoibed15-Sep-21 02:20 AM
why?
cus he doesn't have a moderating position in it?
🔇15-Sep-21 02:20 AM
he just comes up with wack ass things to do during the event
duznot makes the map, and i handle the gift coordination
the rest is secondary tbh
Krial15-Sep-21 02:21 AM
There is 0 reason to include a fuck ton of tech.
In every fucking event
lol
Guno15-Sep-21 02:21 AM
yeah thats what we basically told him
the first SS was the right level of "tech"
🔇15-Sep-21 02:22 AM
a map and a button to spawn the gifts
Guno15-Sep-21 02:22 AM
yeah and the grinch gimmick or w/e
grinch gondolas
🔇15-Sep-21 02:22 AM
that was just people the first year
Guno15-Sep-21 02:23 AM
yup
Krial15-Sep-21 02:23 AM
SS is still happening yeah?
🔇15-Sep-21 02:23 AM
although half the gifts broke because it was buggy af
Guno15-Sep-21 02:23 AM
Yeah
Theres no reason to stop people making gifts for each other
Krial
SS is still happening yeah?
🔇15-Sep-21 02:23 AM
Krial15-Sep-21 02:23 AM
I fucking love duznot
Lol
I literally love him
I think 9/11 couldn’t have turned out better.
Guno15-Sep-21 02:24 AM
My input on SS is mostly anti-grinch squad (backup gift making) and helping test maps
and a minor bit of asset making
Guno
Theres no reason to stop people making gifts for each other
🔇15-Sep-21 02:24 AM
im still going to try to enforce the "making" part tho
Krial
I think 9/11 couldn’t have turned out better.
Dal29015-Sep-21 02:24 AM
Nah I thought it went fine
Krial15-Sep-21 02:24 AM
And if what i expect with my event happens
Dal29015-Sep-21 02:24 AM
Krial15-Sep-21 02:24 AM
Then I think it will all be very good
🔇15-Sep-21 02:24 AM
maybe ill try to ban booth purchases this year
Guno15-Sep-21 02:25 AM
thats fine, I should ask for a drawing rather than assets cause i still feel bad ive been so detached from model making, im just content with what i got cause work takes up majority of my creative drive
need to learn AV3 for lizard staffs
but last few attempts i ran into unity related issues and i just dont have the motivation
Probably shoul djust make a whole new project and work off there
🔇
im still going to try to enforce the "making" part tho
Krial15-Sep-21 02:30 AM
Man
You really want to dick me over huh
🔇15-Sep-21 02:30 AM
just make something dummy
Krial15-Sep-21 02:30 AM
Bitch
Distoibed15-Sep-21 02:30 AM
I usually don't join these cus I'm terrible at blender
Krial15-Sep-21 02:31 AM
I have the artistic talent of a retard savant gifted in math
Distoibed15-Sep-21 02:31 AM
and I guess most are blender/unity related
Krial15-Sep-21 02:31 AM
But I’d still like to make someoje have a good Christmas
🔇15-Sep-21 02:31 AM
or do what several others did and commission a random person to do it for you
Distoibed15-Sep-21 02:31 AM
that's still using money
Dal29015-Sep-21 02:31 AM
I am going to go back to chatting in the call that simmered down because I had to fucking answer to guno's beckoning judgement one more fucking time with workshop, you guys have a nice night and @🔇 call me sometime in a non sexual way
Krial15-Sep-21 02:31 AM
That is 200% what I’m going to do asylum
Black Lily15-Sep-21 02:32 AM
Just do what duznots ss did and send them a random mmd model you found
🔇15-Sep-21 02:32 AM
Krial15-Sep-21 02:32 AM
I was gonna get the organizers to rig it to where I got FL
And send him FBT
🔇15-Sep-21 02:32 AM
"organizers"
Krial15-Sep-21 02:32 AM
But sleepy already sent him it
🔇15-Sep-21 02:33 AM
im the only one that handles the gift exchange
everyone else just does the event
Krial15-Sep-21 02:33 AM
Yeah I want someone to be excited if I got them not disappointed at my childish attempts at anything LMAO
🔇15-Sep-21 02:34 AM
also ss is digital items only
Distoibed15-Sep-21 02:34 AM
so the brazilian baby finally got his demand after years of begging
🔇
also ss is digital items only
Krial15-Sep-21 02:35 AM
As if I don’t have half of VRG’s names and addresses
You can’t stop me grinch man
Krial
You can’t stop me grinch man
🔇15-Sep-21 02:35 AM
but i can.
Krial15-Sep-21 02:35 AM
I know you can
🔇15-Sep-21 02:35 AM
(:
Krial15-Sep-21 02:35 AM
But you shouldn’t
You’d ruin a poor little anon’s Christmas like that
Black Lily15-Sep-21 02:42 AM
Can we cancel Christmas and just have Halloween till the end of the year
Krial15-Sep-21 02:43 AM
No you fucking goth
And we damn sure aren’t canceling thanksgiving either.
Black Lily15-Sep-21 02:46 AM
Halloween > Christmas and Thanksgiving
Krial15-Sep-21 03:22 AM
thanksgiving is the best
Dal290
He or she is too stuck up and will create problems within the userbase of this discord when they discover that, aside from the legal action stuff and talking a fuckload
Brainy15-Sep-21 06:16 AM
I don't know what your issue is with me, but I've tried to settle it with you privately, I've tried to settle it with you professionally (within #mods), and I've literally just straight up ignored you talking shit about me in here openly every week. The only stuck up attitude here is you because you're insistent on passing judgment on me when you do not even know me.
Dal29015-Sep-21 06:19 AM
I'm tryin to slep lets bant another time, believe it or not boiled down I am actually open to you becoming a jannie mod whatever I just hope you don't bring in an atmosphere of steamrolling the fun.
Read what I typed out or don't, I just want to be open about bullshit fault me for it all you want.
June15-Sep-21 01:05 PM
Finally got caught up in here
Lot of harsh shit being said under the guise of just talking / discussion
Now I won't call people out on shit because it won't help. But I do see what you fuckers are doing. Knock that shit off
It's a fucking discord for our community that has been nuked several times. It's not going anywhere, it's a cockroach with a different brain every time
Keep your personal problems in dms and know when to stop, otherwise you will become the asshole
Stannic15-Sep-21 01:15 PM
obviously this is june's fault for becoming a glowie who works at a nuclear facility and the radiation started to kick in and they're becoming a bloodsucker
we have to exorcise june before they become a bloodsucker and stalkers starts coming out from sleeper agent status
ISN'T THAT RIGHT GLOWIE @June
June15-Sep-21 01:22 PM
No comment.
Stannic15-Sep-21 01:22 PM
️
Perrine15-Sep-21 01:45 PM
June when do we get our Sega VR port
June15-Sep-21 02:08 PM
when someone sends me a devkit
Distoibed15-Sep-21 02:09 PM
I don't have a lot to say and I'd rather not use the meme comment of >taking the discord seriously
but from what I observed and read in here it seems that Dal has a vision for this discord and will fight for it, it may also be because he wants to help this discord but asylum just knocked him off his position while he was eager to do his salary excluded job.
but what I think is the biggest problem in here is the incapability of both parties to dial it back a notch with the shit flinging.
I understand if today's bout is the culmination of everything that happened in the past + a recent scoop of drama, but if both parties just hurl insults and disrespect at eachother, I cannot fanthom an end to this shit flinging until somebody's rectum has been cleaned up and has no more shit to fling
Distoibed15-Sep-21 02:21 PM
I understand that not a lot of people are able to sit back at the sidelines like me, but it helped a lot and prevented me from ree-ing in the modchat
like @Brainy 's jannie promotion and eventual mod promotion
was I against it in the beginning? hell yeah but after I sat back and saw her in action, I realised that she's the required "extremism" that balances this place.
Guess I still said a lot...
Distoibed
I don't have a lot to say and I'd rather not use the meme comment of >taking the discord seriously
but from what I observed and read in here it seems that Dal has a vision for this discord and will fight for it, it may also be because he wants to help this discord but asylum just knocked him off his position while he was eager to do his salary excluded job.
but what I think is the biggest problem in here is the incapability of both parties to dial it back a notch with the shit flinging.
I understand if today's bout is the culmination of everything that happened in the past + a recent scoop of drama, but if both parties just hurl insults and disrespect at eachother, I cannot fanthom an end to this shit flinging until somebody's rectum has been cleaned up and has no more shit to fling
Dal29015-Sep-21 02:28 PM
Boiled down yes, I was done wrestling with guno on the last server, and now he will abuse his position to stir shit with me because I didn't bend the direction I was having my arm wringed to go.
I don't appreciate having a mod team built around another person either, as the influence and ability to do so has spelled disaster before(edited)
Fucking discuss who you want to bump up because we are already having issues with things being slanted in one direction
Call me crazy for being annoyed with strong arming
Dal29015-Sep-21 02:39 PM
I get I say a lot of words but what was unclear about directly overruling and forcing me to do things a way I didn't want to do them.
Dal290
Boiled down yes, I was done wrestling with guno on the last server, and now he will abuse his position to stir shit with me because I didn't bend the direction I was having my arm wringed to go.
Guno15-Sep-21 04:48 PM
???? but anyways, All i can cap off is saying My personal opinion there isnt a lot of back and forth is because you do care a lot dal, you talk about not wanting strong arming but from what I can tell you strong arm the most
(the???s are for the abuse comment, btw)
when you have your opinion you get the most vocal about it being done
Dal29015-Sep-21 04:49 PM
If we put this in another scope, imagine if a channel had a mod say "don't discuss this" and another mod wouldn't accept that so many times they had to clamp down and ruin the entire point of that channel, that was the vc issue.
Guno15-Sep-21 04:50 PM
I mean, good thing that applies to both of us so theres no reason to hold that on another mod
you spoke up first man
Dal29015-Sep-21 04:50 PM
You ruined workshop a second time
Why am I supposed to be pleased or okay with that
Guno15-Sep-21 04:51 PM
"a second time" because I think its become apparent that just you specifically have issues with me
and i dont like you claiming ownership over everyone else
's opinions
if you wanna ban me for personal reasons i'm fine with that
but the way you came to me was very offensive
Dal29015-Sep-21 04:52 PM
I have issues with mods using their position to consistently force their moderation abilities to stir shit or refuse to relent on if I can't have it mentality
Guno15-Sep-21 04:52 PM
I do too man
i wish youd stop doing it
Dal29015-Sep-21 04:52 PM
It crosses the line when you intend to use your moderation entirely for spite reasons
Guno15-Sep-21 04:52 PM
dal, thats basically what you did by splintering, you know that,r ight?
you did the ultimate spite play
and even once you main beef was gone, you continued
Dal29015-Sep-21 04:53 PM
I had to do it because here we are today
With you trying to force me to do things
Like right now
Guno15-Sep-21 04:53 PM
again, you complain about storng arming but all you DO is strong arm dal
"forcing me" shit
you want thing, you do thing
You want everyone to play by the rules but you, ultimately
I had meant to bring you up several times but again, you are a very very suffocating person because how much you care. you know how bad I get when i argue? thats you basically at all times on moderation
the difference is you are good at keeping your tone
you are literally scary to talk near
at least, now you are
June15-Sep-21 04:55 PM
wasn't always that way
Dal29015-Sep-21 04:55 PM
You are good at arguing so fuck you basically?
Guno15-Sep-21 04:56 PM
i am not good at arguing?
thats not what i meant to imply
Dal29015-Sep-21 04:57 PM
I couldn't keep up with you guno, you ruined shop the first time letting zan and others shit all over, then you ruined it a second time wringing my arm about enforcing the rules I was "freely" able to do with your judgement as the reigning factor.
Guno15-Sep-21 04:57 PM
tldr: my main complaint with you dal is its never enough for you, my LITERAL VOLUNTEER WORK is never enough for you tot he point you berate me for it
"second time wringing my arm about enforcing the rules I was "freely" able to do with your judgement as the reigning factor." you're going to have to specify
cause what?
Dal29015-Sep-21 05:00 PM
You still do not see the issue with saying I had full control to run it the way I felt, but then stepping in and arguing on a weekly/monthly basis and forcing me to progressively enforce stricter bullshit and damage a ton of relations with people because "it wasn't fair". You were a person who was not shop productive and you demanded I slap others out of fairness even if they actually energized people or boosted productivity.
Guno15-Sep-21 05:00 PM
dal stop fucking blaming me for "forcing you" to be strict
thats just who you ARE
Dal29015-Sep-21 05:01 PM
You did though, and were the sole factor
Guno15-Sep-21 05:01 PM
Bull
fucking
shit
if it wasnt me it was gonna be another mod
because your complaints were way over the line majority times
Dal29015-Sep-21 05:01 PM
Not at all, there was a reason everyone else was cool with me running it that way
Guno15-Sep-21 05:01 PM
you wanted control before you were mod, and it was never ENOUGH control
Dal29015-Sep-21 05:01 PM
Dude I just wanted to boot annoying cunts from a channel
Guno15-Sep-21 05:02 PM
and i come in and hear how you were blowing it out of proportions
Dal29015-Sep-21 05:02 PM
Then I found out some of them were literal crazies or drunktards
Guno15-Sep-21 05:02 PM
and im like "well fuck:"
dal when you get 6 v 1d when you called me in on a regular basis
it was hard to take your side other than calming people down
Dal29015-Sep-21 05:02 PM
You still do not see the issue that you are interrupting my time and how I am running workshop right fucking now on Wednesday so I can answer to what guno thinks I should do or how things should work a fucking again.
I do not trust your understanding of people
Guno15-Sep-21 05:03 PM
Nor do I?
Because you ignore anything people do for you
and chalk everything for "you did nothing"
you are by far the most ungrateful person i've seen on vrg
Dal29015-Sep-21 05:04 PM
I cooperated for you for two fucking years bending over and producing results for your ass
Guno15-Sep-21 05:04 PM
because anything less than what you specifically wanted is nothing
dal
i
cooperated
with
YOU
Dal29015-Sep-21 05:04 PM
And I tell you to fuck off once and you go full scale fuck you mode
Guno15-Sep-21 05:04 PM
you keep whining about how much an ordeal i was and im just like EYEROLL
Dal29015-Sep-21 05:05 PM
That is why I didn't nor do trust how you function
Guno15-Sep-21 05:05 PM
"this guy, he doesnt know"
you clearly dont undrestand the phrase "give and take"
because you ONLY take
Dal29015-Sep-21 05:05 PM
I'm done with this, pull whatever tantrum bullshit you feel like
Guno15-Sep-21 05:06 PM
you too buddy boy
your melty was cute
if only it was real and not you deflecting blame to the sole person trying to fucking help moderate a voice
at the time
for free
I'm capping this with "I still think both me and dal shouldnt be mods" me because Im simply not needed right now. and Dal because he splintered the discord before it broke because of mod, and then stayed splinter but still wants calls on how things run in here which i find so hilariously bullshit to complain how others run the main discord
because he literally splintered to subvert moderation
if it was just workshop i'd agree, but I've seen that discord. its definately more than workshop
Distoibed15-Sep-21 05:19 PM
I guess this is laughable since it's coming from me, but you guys could have sugar coated your sentences into less antagonizing ones
I know "grow some skin" but when somebody tells me I "abused" or "ruined" something, that's a pretty big deal
Guno15-Sep-21 05:19 PM
I did say I'm bad at argueing
June15-Sep-21 05:19 PM
well, you are pissed so its alright
I'm gonna talk to everyone on the mod team in dms, so keep an eye for that
I've got an actual job to do so it might be a few
Distoibed15-Sep-21 05:20 PM
Oh shit, the June DM~
Guno
I did say I'm bad at argueing
Distoibed15-Sep-21 05:24 PM
you're right about dal being scary to argue with tho
even though me and dal never did, cus I cba to waste time on arguing meaningless topics
Dal29015-Sep-21 05:25 PM
My dad was a lawyer, sue me
Distoibed15-Sep-21 05:26 PM
yep, that's why I'm avoiding arguing you
not because you've inherited lawyer tier arguing, it's because I have to rock your world for you to budge
Dal29015-Sep-21 05:28 PM
I'm working on that, I don't want to be a stubborn motherfucker but I think it is a strength and a weakness, double edged spaghetti
Guno15-Sep-21 05:29 PM
Yeah really, Im only hostile cause argue mode, your only real issue i think dal is you care a lot
which is a pro and a con
care is good
Distoibed15-Sep-21 05:29 PM
With skill comes entitlement, it's natural
you're not easily gonna accept a view from a dude who can't win agaisnt a yes-man
Dal29015-Sep-21 05:30 PM
I have argued so much some people are afraid to confront me, I consider that a weakness end of the deal
Distoibed15-Sep-21 05:31 PM
same thing as fighting a dude who's biceps are thicker than your leg
Dal29015-Sep-21 05:32 PM
I hate people who intimidate and I never want to use it as a tool intentional or unintentionally
Krial15-Sep-21 08:37 PM
Can we kick rhythm
He no work no more
@mod
Guno15-Sep-21 08:37 PM
rip
Dal29015-Sep-21 08:37 PM
Yee he is going to be leaving as well on the 15th
Azuth15-Sep-21 08:37 PM
seems fair
rest in rip
June15-Sep-21 08:37 PM
yeah kick it
Guno15-Sep-21 08:37 PM
pour one out
Krial15-Sep-21 08:37 PM
@./a.out
June15-Sep-21 08:37 PM
Krial15-Sep-21 08:37 PM
We’re you able to replicate it with jackbot
./a.out15-Sep-21 08:38 PM
is he perma-fried?
Krial15-Sep-21 08:38 PM
His function
Yeah rhythm is gone
./a.out15-Sep-21 08:38 PM
NOOOOO
Krial15-Sep-21 08:38 PM
I think having our own
Through jackbot
If possible
Is safest long term
./a.out15-Sep-21 08:38 PM
God damn commies takin our moosic
Yeeea, I can look into adding it to jackbot
Krial15-Sep-21 08:39 PM
Perfect. lemme know when you do
And I’ll do an announcement on how to work it
./a.out15-Sep-21 08:39 PM
gotcha gotcha
Krial15-Sep-21 08:39 PM
Etc
./a.out15-Sep-21 08:39 PM
word
June15-Sep-21 08:45 PM
its already on my todo list
me and sleepy discussed it a few days ago
Krial15-Sep-21 08:46 PM
Perf
I’m sure jackbot will be needed to have the function for halo cord too
So is two birds stoned at once imo
June15-Sep-21 08:46 PM
its not as easy as it might seem on paper
but yeah jackbot can have it too
Krial15-Sep-21 08:54 PM
Oh yeah definitely
I imagine it’s crazy hard
🔇15-Sep-21 09:05 PM
./a.out15-Sep-21 10:04 PM
already almost done
Jackbot can play youtube songs now
just gotta polish
Krial15-Sep-21 10:05 PM
BASTE
And BLAKCPILLED
Stannic15-Sep-21 11:16 PM
will jackbot be able to detect bloodsuckers also
Krial15-Sep-21 11:17 PM
Can jackbot deliver the 2 dose pfizer vaccine
@./a.out
Can you code that
Azuth15-Sep-21 11:17 PM
new rule: all server users must be vaxxed
Stannic15-Sep-21 11:17 PM
my job just mandated that
by december 1st
Azuth15-Sep-21 11:18 PM
lol my job knows they'd lose too many people if they did
we just get a bonus if we get the jab
Black Lily15-Sep-21 11:24 PM
They're trying to make all of us wear masks again even if we're fully vaxxed
Black Lily
They're trying to make all of us wear masks again even if we're fully vaxxed
Krial15-Sep-21 11:39 PM
I have to do that yeah
It’s cringe
Black Lily15-Sep-21 11:43 PM
Nobody here is wearing masks again
Krial
Can jackbot deliver the 2 dose pfizer vaccine
./a.out16-Sep-21 12:10 AM
I'll code him to administer the femboy shots
we gonna save the world with jackbot
Black Lily16-Sep-21 12:18 AM
Until YouTube come after us for it
Brainy16-Sep-21 12:19 AM
I wouldn't mind wearing masks if they didn't require the shot and were just serious about providing N95s to people
June16-Sep-21 12:19 AM
Alright, so guno is stepping down as mod, and returning to jannie, hopefully people understand and not bother him too much about it. if he wants to talk about it he can, but do not push him.
tonight was pretty shit for everyone so lets not get into it
* one thing everyone brought up tonight is that we all need to communicate more, shits really been fucked
* even though it is not true, people feel like asylum and lily are the leaders and are calling the shots. instead of us working together as a team
* there has been stuff going on behind closed doors (dms) and not being talked about, or at least informed about in here.
* stuff like #the-unclean and all the bots doing stuff are really good
* people are avoiding talking in mods channel because they are afraid of fighting/confrontation about things, even when they really want to.
* Jannies really do need to be rotated proper, like we originally agreed on, or maybe we need to re discuss their role and how we manage them
* We have a lot of mods, which makes mod voting difficult, since mods that have no opinion on things, like say Carl and Eva, will just randomly vote one way, without full context.(edited)
June16-Sep-21 12:29 AM
In the future, if you do not feel comfortable talking about things in here, please come to me in dms, so I can help, or at least so you can vent without worrying about someone getting on you. I'm here to help you guys
Hopefully we can work on being more of a mod team, and less of a shit flinging channel
I'm going to remove Dot from #nsfw-chat, so he can't abuse the channel in the future. This is a bit out of the blue and unrelated so sorry about that. Dots been consistently harassing the channel. if you feel this isn't okay please let me know.
Dal29016-Sep-21 12:39 AM
Him and ryder have been bombing it with stuff, people are getting uppity about it recently
Azuth16-Sep-21 12:41 AM
maybe we have an anti gaybaby role?
sfw only
call it straight adult
June16-Sep-21 12:44 AM
I'm open to a role for it. I did him manually but we could do that
Krial16-Sep-21 12:49 AM
I think a role is good.
Makes the most sense.
And definitely more communication is good.
Distoibed16-Sep-21 12:56 AM
Call it wholesome or something back-handed
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Krial16-Sep-21 03:00 AM
Also just name it gay baby 2
Lol
Mumu from NYC16-Sep-21 03:08 AM
name it boss baby
🔇16-Sep-21 03:20 AM
“Straightbaby”
Distoibed16-Sep-21 03:26 AM
Safe For Work
Black Lily16-Sep-21 03:27 AM
Megacoomer
ExecutiveJackbotBOT16-Sep-21 03:29 AM
Das racist
Stannic16-Sep-21 11:25 AM
name it child lock
Jason16-Sep-21 12:09 PM
cockblocked
Black Lily
Megacoomer
Stannic16-Sep-21 02:23 PM
name it sigmacoomer
Perrine17-Sep-21 01:04 PM
I'm not sure this server needs 20 mods+jannies, re: having lots of mods
Distoibed17-Sep-21 01:08 PM
yep
Jason17-Sep-21 01:54 PM
yeah tbh i never do anything i think that's the same with a lot of jannies and probably mods
i do like watching the discussion though
Mumu from NYC17-Sep-21 03:42 PM
Wait yeah I forgot why Jason was here
Wasn't it because of -2
🔇17-Sep-21 04:03 PM
He asked and people voted for him.
Mumu from NYC17-Sep-21 04:08 PM
Oh based
Stannic17-Sep-21 04:09 PM
you can always rotate me out
it's already ez to delete shit anyways
Jason17-Sep-21 04:31 PM
Democratically elected
i just wanted people to stop fucking with nsfw chat really
Distoibed17-Sep-21 04:35 PM
it's a clear goal
and idk if other's can have such clear goals about their moderation position in here
Distoibed17-Sep-21 05:13 PM
ik, DMs are supposed to be private
but I just wanna let you guys know that this is happening(edited)
Mumu from NYC17-Sep-21 05:17 PM
Who the hell are these people
Distoibed17-Sep-21 05:17 PM
Davja is a lisp cunt in dal's discord
who failed to get in here 1-2 months ago
this is TEXTBOOK
Example
of "gimme time and I'll wait it out teehee~"
Krial17-Sep-21 05:19 PM
That’s what I was thinking
Distoibed17-Sep-21 05:19 PM
I gotta goo for this night
Dal29017-Sep-21 05:20 PM
On my end I never hung around him enough to know better, he is sus keep him out
Distoibed17-Sep-21 05:20 PM
idk, the whole thing posh said and with him wanting his davja buddy in here
"yeah he's 4chan now bro"
Mumu from NYC17-Sep-21 05:20 PM
If spoonfeeders were smart they would just do a discord call and share screen while feeding live information
Distoibed17-Sep-21 05:21 PM
@Mumu from NYC that's the small thin line of
"can I really be fucked"
like
is it worth your time to scadoodle a little fuck into a fucking discord server
this much?
Mumu from NYC17-Sep-21 05:22 PM
To some sure
Hell, make a damn flow chart
Lmao
Azuth17-Sep-21 05:24 PM
why are people so desperate to get in here
we have the same rehashed memes and reposted porn as any other big server
Mumu from NYC17-Sep-21 05:28 PM
Because their friends are here
That's literally it
Black Lily17-Sep-21 05:33 PM
I don't know who any of these people are
But they care too much about getting in
Krial17-Sep-21 05:41 PM
If it were up to me personally and this is probably massively unpopular
I think “go browse” isn’t really a thing, and once someone’s outed to have been spoonfed with no prior 4chan history they should be banned for life
Very harsh, but like realistically if you’re not already from 4chan, do you belong?
Browsing wsg or b for like 1 month isn’t going to suddenly make you a 4channer
Azuth17-Sep-21 05:44 PM
honestly I agree
Black Lily17-Sep-21 05:44 PM
Most of them wouldn't browse other boards they'd just browse our thread exclusively if anything
Like ivy
Azuth17-Sep-21 05:44 PM
if the intention of vetting is to make sure only actual channers who discover the thread join, reading the thread for a month doesn't do shit
Dal29017-Sep-21 05:45 PM
I don't think you can get enough of how things work by just reading a thread for a month in general, especially a /vg/ one
Mumu from NYC17-Sep-21 05:45 PM
I think "go browse" doesn't necessarily mean go browse but more like nah go away don't come back
Krial17-Sep-21 05:45 PM
Can there be exceptions? Prolly but I think it’d be a more organic thing
Like let’s say davja starts hanging out every meet fkr months and everyone likes em
Mumu from NYC17-Sep-21 05:45 PM
No
Dal29017-Sep-21 05:45 PM
I think the goto term for this situation boils down to stonewall with the phrase "lurk moar"
Mumu from NYC17-Sep-21 05:46 PM
Either you're in or you're not
Mumu from NYC
Either you're in or you're not
Krial17-Sep-21 05:46 PM
In with it
Distoibed17-Sep-21 07:01 PM
gee krial
wouldn't have thought of such harsh things from you
I think the best approach is
"Very easy to get into" (like we do now)
but if you fuck that up
you're done for
Distoibed
wouldn't have thought of such harsh things from you
Krial17-Sep-21 07:11 PM
I mean it’s just like
If you haven’t been browsing 4chan already
We ain’t gonna make one out of you lol. It doenst work like that
Distoibed17-Sep-21 07:23 PM
but like what you said with organic
I don't like being ryder tier on it
but if you ever failed
you're barred
Black Lily17-Sep-21 07:48 PM
Well Ryde tier is if you even think someone might be a rando you kick them without asking them anything
./a.out17-Sep-21 08:11 PM
Yea, I agree with krial as well. I feel like 99% of the fuckers that are told to go browse the threads are going to only do it for the soul purpose of getting in here, not to become a 4chinner. At most, all they'll absorb from their lurking (if they even do that) is the current events of /vrg/
Mumu from NYC17-Sep-21 09:00 PM
Yes
Black Lily17-Sep-21 09:51 PM
@/u/GemManBad the boys are cute
Guno17-Sep-21 09:57 PM
Ignore the ping i misread(edited)
/u/GemManBad17-Sep-21 10:09 PM
@Black Lily i dont recall this server existing for porn
ExecutiveJackbotBOT17-Sep-21 10:12 PM
I'm crying RN
Black Lily17-Sep-21 10:13 PM
Piss them off if you want
Should have tried doing something about all the coomers and groomers years ago
Krial17-Sep-21 10:18 PM
I don’t think I care enough about porn to warrant a say. But does it rly matter?
Pineapples17-Sep-21 10:50 PM
Is that IRL images of the actual people here?
In regards to the spoonfeeding thing, I think if they've never been on 4chan then they shouldn't be let in ever. Not "Go browse the thread for a month and come back."
Even if they do explore the boards, they still won't get the culture.
Not that most people here seem to anyway...
Pineapples
Is that IRL images of the actual people here?
🔇17-Sep-21 11:01 PM
Don’t think so, it’s probably the gay porn that people post that’s triggering invalid.
June17-Sep-21 11:02 PM
I think we need to spit nsfw pics
Split
Black Lily17-Sep-21 11:02 PM
I'm slightly more lenient about it. Everyone has to start someone somewhere and if they actually start browsing because of /vrg/ that's good enough for me usually.
June17-Sep-21 11:02 PM
It's hard gay posting now most of the time
Distoibed17-Sep-21 11:02 PM
I don't like seeing it either, but it's in a NSFW-chat in a gay oriented community
🔇17-Sep-21 11:02 PM
And seeing as he suggested that after someone posted a “sounding fuck” image it probably scared him.
Now I can botspam without triggering his cringe goodbye message/Patreon begging
./a.out18-Sep-21 07:35 PM
Oh yea, that reminds me. Gotta send the new jackbot over(edited)
Brainy18-Sep-21 08:26 PM
Could always put it down to a vote within the community.
Krial18-Sep-21 11:07 PM
They will 100% say yes
We are a 4chan based community. Tbh if it were up to me I’d allow gore but I know that probably could get us taken down.
Weird porn is literally part of the deal.
Azuth18-Sep-21 11:10 PM
I'm concerned if we put it to a vote, then we have to define exactly what's "extreme" and what's not
which is gonna be more of a debate than it's worth
Brainy19-Sep-21 05:15 AM
I could have swore I sent other messages on this. I must be hallucinating lol
Azuth
which is gonna be more of a debate than it's worth
Brainy19-Sep-21 05:17 AM
Yeah we'd have to set the line on bodily fluids (blood, piss, shit, etc.) and anything illegal (bestiality). People would debate it just for the sake of it. Then there would be edgelords posting the worst of it and risking a ban.
Only way a vote would work is if it was narrowly focused (IE, just on tuning) and phrased as being done out of consideration to the community. But I think Krial is right on what the result would be. lol(edited)
Krial19-Sep-21 05:29 AM
They’d absolutely just vote to allow anything
Black Lily19-Sep-21 05:50 AM
Even if they vote to ban it they'll just start spamming it
Black Lily
Even if they vote to ban it they'll just start spamming it
Krial19-Sep-21 06:50 AM
As they probably should imo.
Dal29019-Sep-21 06:56 PM
Case by case vs ruru is asked again, basically ask the person in dms to stop posting gross out shit if they are obviously trying to gross out or offput others.
If they refuse take note and move on, issue beatings until peace is restored
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/u/GemManBad20-Sep-21 08:19 AM
Hid the nsfw channels as a joke, ill un hide them after I wake up
That's a little too long for the amount of shit doing that will cause
/u/GemManBad20-Sep-21 08:32 AM
ill be up for another hour, ill see how it goes but it doesnt seem too bad for now(edited)
Brainy20-Sep-21 08:33 AM
Are we good to delete porn outside of #nsfw-chat & #nsfw-pics (such as in #general )?
Oh what no wonder I'm seeing this stuff in #general
Why do we fuck around with these channels every week...?
What is the purpose of fucking with people?
Dal29020-Sep-21 08:34 AM
Internal political spaghetti
Brainy20-Sep-21 08:35 AM
I mean if we don't like it or want to change it, it would be better to discuss it long-term.
/u/GemManBad20-Sep-21 08:35 AM
a litmus test of sorts
Pineapples20-Sep-21 08:35 AM
Yeah, I'm half tempted to just put the channels back to normal, but I don't really care that much either. It's just gonna be chaos for a bit, nothing all that harmful.
/u/GemManBad20-Sep-21 08:36 AM
gets a conversation going about it
we can talk all day in here but this will yield faster feedback(edited)
drastically faster
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Brainy20-Sep-21 08:36 AM
What kind of feedback?
What value?
And for what purpose?
If what you want is resentment that we got rid of major channels without discussion or explanation, then yes, we will get that.
/u/GemManBad20-Sep-21 08:37 AM
how many people care
will people actually give me shit for it
will they take drastic action
Brainy20-Sep-21 08:38 AM
I mean people will care even if they don't have a stake in it just because it was done without any notice or explanation.
Just at the whim of ~Jannie~
~Inner Circle~
Pineapples20-Sep-21 08:38 AM
Couldn't you at least have mentioned the idea beforehand?
1
Brainy20-Sep-21 08:39 AM
If anything this is just social engineering people to fight tooth and nail against any future changes to #nsfw
Pineapples20-Sep-21 08:39 AM
We already had a bunch of people messing with shit on a whim recently, and I thought we were all on the same page that we shouldn't have people doing that, or any kind of major changes without discussing it.
Though again it's probably harmless and people are just gonna mess around for a while, but still.
/u/GemManBad20-Sep-21 08:40 AM
i will bring it up here before acting in the future
i should have atleast done that
im sorry
ill save the chaos for april 1st
Brainy20-Sep-21 08:42 AM
Honestly this just created a lot of work for those of us who review #nsfw for reportable content.
This just prompts people to post more and more extreme stuff into #general now, interspersed with discussion on why the channels are gone.
If anything you should be the one to scan that for anything TOS to delete. It's unfair to just create more work for us so you can have a laugh.
If we can purge posts between X dates in that channel, it would be the easiest solution.
/u/GemManBad20-Sep-21 08:45 AM
i already planned on doing that
the X date/time delete would be amazing
ill look into that for future clean up if it ever needs to happen(edited)
/u/GemManBad20-Sep-21 09:03 AM
god bless dyno
double checked the image purge, nothing made it through
Krial20-Sep-21 09:07 AM
Can we bring back the channels now lol
I wanna chat with friends before bed
/u/GemManBad20-Sep-21 09:09 AM
general is pretty active
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Brainy20-Sep-21 09:10 AM
Yeah thankfully it looks like people didn't post anything too bad.
I deleted a few that were edgy like the cunny meme image, that's about it.
/u/GemManBad20-Sep-21 09:10 AM
cunny and scat, not great not terrible
? purge image is a handy tool we can keep for later
Brainy20-Sep-21 09:11 AM
I wanted to delete but just focused on what's TOS
/u/GemManBad20-Sep-21 09:11 AM
dont be afraid to delete what you want
i wasn't
though a bit rushed in my thought process
Pineapples20-Sep-21 09:13 AM
Yeah, you don't want to spend half a minute seriously considering each image. It's not going to matter if you delete something that doesn't need it.
r/discordapp: Imagine a Place... where you can belong to a school club, a gaming group, or a worldwide art community. Where just you and handful of friends can spend time together. A place that makes it easy to talk every day and hang out more often.
NOTE: /r/discordapp is unofficial & community-run.
🔇20-Sep-21 11:48 AM
@/u/GemManBad making the change at 5am Monday morning isnt going to see much backlash. Most people are asleep still that would even throw a hissy fit.
Distoibed20-Sep-21 11:49 AM
Should have thrown a big ol' >taking the discord seriously
Brainy20-Sep-21 12:15 PM
I was expecting that person who went nuclear over Dank to have a total melty over this
But it was mostly harmless and people memeing
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<320-Sep-21 12:21 PM
Been mostly gone for two weeks because I've been super busy with irl shit. Just to come back and see rainy posting reddit links and still talking about tos. Glad to see nothings changed.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3
Been mostly gone for two weeks because I've been super busy with irl shit. Just to come back and see rainy posting reddit links and still talking about tos. Glad to see nothings changed.
Stannic20-Sep-21 12:28 PM
ghey
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<320-Sep-21 12:31 PM
Im not complaining you see I love reddit, especially r/chonkers
Stannic20-Sep-21 12:32 PM
uwot
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<320-Sep-21 12:32 PM
Nothing makes me happier than a seeing a bunch of disgusting white women stuff thier cats face with food till he's 40 lbs(edited)
Stannic20-Sep-21 12:33 PM
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<320-Sep-21 12:33 PM
Cats dying of heart attacks is very keanu chungus wholesome 100.
"My little chonker passed away last week he was such a big boy."(edited)
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<320-Sep-21 12:42 PM
Daily reminder to downvote anything you dislike or that violates tos.
June20-Sep-21 02:12 PM
Dude seriously
@/u/GemManBad stop fucking with shit
@#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3 stop being a dick and assuming
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<320-Sep-21 02:15 PM
I was just appreciating our love for Reddit
how is that being a dick
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3
Been mostly gone for two weeks because I've been super busy with irl shit. Just to come back and see rainy posting reddit links and still talking about tos. Glad to see nothings changed.
June20-Sep-21 02:18 PM
This is a jab at them
I don't give a shit about Reddit hate
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<320-Sep-21 02:19 PM
also violating discords tos is no joke if we are not careful we will all end up in Albanian prisons
June20-Sep-21 02:19 PM
Yeah real funny
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<320-Sep-21 02:19 PM
its true this is no laughing matter(edited)
June20-Sep-21 02:19 PM
If you didn't bring this shit up it would've stayed dead
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<320-Sep-21 02:19 PM
you think its funny
but its not
June20-Sep-21 02:19 PM
No I don't
I really don't like having done stuff brought back up because you have a grudge
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<320-Sep-21 02:20 PM
what grudge?
im just agreeing with them
June20-Sep-21 02:20 PM
Rainy already said they would work on how they present that shit
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3
im just agreeing with them
June20-Sep-21 02:20 PM
No you're not
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<320-Sep-21 02:21 PM
i have said nothing negative everything I've said is in full support
i am what you would call an ally of the cause
June20-Sep-21 02:22 PM
Mhmm
ExecutiveJackbotBOT20-Sep-21 07:02 PM
GAMER???
Krial20-Sep-21 07:02 PM
I will strip u of ur welfare
ExecutiveJackbotBOT20-Sep-21 07:12 PM
GAMER???
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3
Been mostly gone for two weeks because I've been super busy with irl shit. Just to come back and see rainy posting reddit links and still talking about tos. Glad to see nothings changed.
Brainy20-Sep-21 09:24 PM
I posted Reddit because it was the only place documenting discussion after YouTube flagged the video.
Am I not allowed to post anything with Reddit as a source now? (edited)
Because there was a lot of disbelief that Discord does this, I thought it prudent to share.
The largest TAS community server.
Thousands of users.
Guno20-Sep-21 09:43 PM
I'd assume a decently large one given Tassers typically hang with other tassers
Brainy20-Sep-21 09:43 PM
But only a handful knew of the channel or could view it.
There were staff who did not know or have the role (I screenshotted one of their posts).
I'm not joking when I say Discord T&S is like 5 people BTW lol
Azuth20-Sep-21 09:45 PM
So it's just a matter if they decide to pull a Ron and peek into private channels
ExecutiveJackbotBOT20-Sep-21 09:45 PM
Das racist
Brainy20-Sep-21 09:47 PM
I don't know how they discovered the channel. But there's a possibility they have proactive measures that discovered it due to mentions. There's also the possibility they hash register images and as people share them across communities, those get matched. I warned about this previously as well.
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Brainy20-Sep-21 09:48 PM
They wouldn't because the n-word is actually very nuanced and a hot topic right now due to BLM. They got a lot of blowback for their policies towards it among Partnered servers in the past. Basically this can be spun as restricting black speech and expression, especially on Hip Hop servers.
Krial20-Sep-21 09:49 PM
LMAO
Incredible
Our greatest ally BLM helping us out I kneel ✊
Brainy20-Sep-21 09:49 PM
Also so long as we're moderating against it, it's pretty low on the spectrum of offenses.
As in every platform knows every community will have people posting something bad.
ExecutiveJackbotBOT20-Sep-21 09:50 PM
I'm crying RN
Brainy20-Sep-21 09:51 PM
Basically the thing that assures, if not guarantees, nuke and/or reporting with little to no due diligence are these types of offenses.
Which is why I warned about it previously.
Krial20-Sep-21 09:51 PM
Imagine my shock.
Brainy20-Sep-21 09:51 PM
There was a lot of insistence Discord does not moderate this way. I'm now showing you they do.(edited)
I still feel the safest thing for us to do would be to purge NSFW every so often.
Especially since there's historical posts there that may contain something bad.
ExecutiveJackbotBOT20-Sep-21 09:58 PM
Das racist
Brainy20-Sep-21 10:00 PM
Because despite what people may think, even in the USA (strongest legal protections on expression), it's not entirely legal.
There are also legal requirements on platforms for reporting it moreso than judging it, since they're not lawyers.
But I won't go into that since we've already discussed it way too much already.
Brainy
I posted Reddit because it was the only place documenting discussion after YouTube flagged the video.
Am I not allowed to post anything with Reddit as a source now? (edited)
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<320-Sep-21 10:27 PM
yes
Krial20-Sep-21 10:39 PM
I post on reddit
It’s a good tool for current news/really niche hobbies that don’t have any info on 4chan
Black Lily20-Sep-21 10:43 PM
Why
Perrine20-Sep-21 10:57 PM
reading reddit? Controversial. Posting on reddit? for what purpose
Krial
I post on reddit
Black Lily20-Sep-21 11:09 PM
Stop that
ExecutiveJackbotBOT20-Sep-21 11:09 PM
Das racist... wait no it's not
Krial20-Sep-21 11:09 PM
My current acc is banned on like 100+ subreddits
Also to buy and sell niche shit
Azuth20-Sep-21 11:12 PM
I'm active in the narcolepsy subreddit because it's the only place on the internet I can talk to folks my own age with it
sadly forums and bulletin boards are dead
you just go to the subreddit for [THING YOU LIKE]
Distoibed21-Sep-21 12:42 AM
I use Reddit for porn
Black Lily21-Sep-21 01:04 AM
Krial21-Sep-21 02:25 AM
What was that 22chan link and why an announcement?
Distoibed21-Sep-21 04:06 AM
Migration to 22chan?
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<321-Sep-21 06:13 AM
it was an attempt to see if we could get a small comfy alt chan thread going
but it got shitposted and the the tread got nuked
Distoibed21-Sep-21 06:21 AM
Expected(edited)
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<321-Sep-21 06:23 AM
ye
o well
it got more posts then i expected
but when 3 or 4 people break rules its gonna get nuked
Krial21-Sep-21 06:39 PM
Time for new server icon?
Current getting stale
./a.out21-Sep-21 08:01 PM
I've got an idea
at least for today
Krial21-Sep-21 08:05 PM
Perfect
Lol
Black Lily21-Sep-21 08:12 PM
./a.out21-Sep-21 08:13 PM
fuckin beautiful lmao
Black Lily21-Sep-21 08:13 PM
Brainy21-Sep-21 11:23 PM
I love this ^ lol
Perrine21-Sep-21 11:38 PM
new sticker just dropped
Jason23-Sep-21 07:48 PM
can we change nsfw chat back to nsfw chat
Jason
can we change nsfw chat back to nsfw chat
Black Lily23-Sep-21 08:19 PM
is this better
Jason23-Sep-21 08:25 PM
It's better yes cause my autism eyes don't keep overlooking it when I'm scrolling through the list
I'd prefer just nsfw chat tho
Azuth23-Sep-21 08:29 PM
at least the change was from a public vote this time
and not just mod fuckery
Jason23-Sep-21 08:51 PM
we voted to change the name from nsfw chat forever ago and never did
Dal29023-Sep-21 08:55 PM
Nsfw-chat has been a weird subject for many, noticing the turn from dislike to full on resentment from people, not sure how to dissolve the tension but imma talk around about it
Krial23-Sep-21 09:01 PM
Stop fucking with it
That’s how you fix it
Just literally don’t do anything.
Dal29023-Sep-21 09:10 PM
When you reach the stage of the mods themselves wanting to fuck with it you got an issue XD
Stannic23-Sep-21 09:11 PM
time to make a new server for nsfw-chat
Stannic
time to make a new server for nsfw-chat
Black Lily23-Sep-21 09:17 PM
But there's already four
Stannic23-Sep-21 09:17 PM
add an official one for the power vacuum and clout chasers to hurl themselves into
Krial23-Sep-21 09:18 PM
We ignoring this dude in welcome?
Or nah
Stannic23-Sep-21 09:20 PM
Mumu from NYC23-Sep-21 09:29 PM
Damn
WHAT ARE YOU HIDING
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Distoibed24-Sep-21 12:47 AM
Was kinda iffy when hé mentioned threads instead of boatds
Azuth24-Sep-21 12:55 AM
yeah, /ic/ is just obscure enough of a board that I counted it
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Black Lily24-Sep-21 09:02 AM
Krial24-Sep-21 09:03 AM
imagine my shock
"I'm a shorty short 5 foot 4 an inch tall girl with eternally blue/pink/purple/dark brown hair."
Black Lily24-Sep-21 09:04 AM
The least few people that joined are all /xivg/
Krial24-Sep-21 09:04 AM
Wonder who's doing it.
I wonder if they're posting links in their general.
Black Lily24-Sep-21 09:05 AM
They probably are
Distoibed24-Sep-21 09:26 AM
was getting a haircut
Krial24-Sep-21 09:27 AM
Holy shit distoibed it worked
Lmao
Distoibed24-Sep-21 09:27 AM
?
Krial24-Sep-21 09:28 AM
Telling them to go to cuddlecord
Lol
Distoibed24-Sep-21 09:31 AM
ahyeah
telling them to fuck off isn't always gonna work
so siccing them on something else works most of the time
that's why I like human psychology
Dal29024-Sep-21 05:56 PM
The astolfo emojis really sells it
Brainy25-Sep-21 09:54 PM
Black Lily25-Sep-21 09:55 PM
Carl dumb
Brainy25-Sep-21 09:56 PM
I get that, but regardless of context, drunkenness, stupidity, joking, whatever excuse: This is not the sort of thing anyone should be saying on this server. Anyone able to talk to him?(edited)
Black Lily25-Sep-21 09:57 PM
That statement is anti pedo though
His wording is just bad
Brainy25-Sep-21 09:57 PM
Black Lily25-Sep-21 09:58 PM
That's also anti pedo
Brainy25-Sep-21 09:58 PM
Yeah that's why I say regardless of context. This was another "intellectual" conversation in #happening lmao
The issue is I don't expect Discord to look at context whatsoever.
When they get a single report and are expected to strike or resolve.
Context if wondering:
It was discussion around this post
The issue is how any one of these messages standalone might look if reported.
Oh yeah when I say could someone talk to him, I mean privately (DM).
Something like: "Hey, we're worried about stuff getting reported to Discord out of context. If this topic comes up again, could you try to be careful about making one-off shock statements?"
Only in normal-speak and not Rainy robot speak.(edited)
June25-Sep-21 10:19 PM
Hm
hard sell on convincing people like carl to not do that
I think trying to address this would blow up in our face and just have them spam it about being too discord/reddit/whatever
deleting after the fact is fine by me - nothing said in this discord deserves to be kept till the end of time
Jason25-Sep-21 10:32 PM
yeah i dont think trying to police speech in a large 4chan based community is a good idea
deleting it after to try and prevent the discord from being nuked is more understandable, though i think it's probably pointless
Brainy26-Sep-21 09:10 AM
I kind of ended up doing both. I deleted the posts and spoke with Carl about why so he understands.(edited)
I explained it to him more generally though.(edited)
Basically that I'm worried about people getting singled out and reported for this stuff out of context (which is the truth).(edited)
He said it's fine and he understands why we need to delete stuff to keep the server safe and he doesn't mind it.
Also that apparently he's been report-targeted by someone on here that got his account banned/deleted before.(edited)
The second person I know who had this happen (other being my friend Bananers).
Pineapples26-Sep-21 09:21 AM
Oh, that's good. People her usually don't like even the slightest suggestion on what they can or can't say, so I'm surprised he understands.
Didn't know anyone got his account deleted in the past, though.
Brainy
Also that apparently he's been report-targeted by someone on here that got his account banned/deleted before. (edited)
Stannic26-Sep-21 09:31 AM
the fuck
hating him is one thing but going out of their way to get him banned is another
motherfuckers should really learn how to use the block button
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Pineapples
Oh, that's good. People her usually don't like even the slightest suggestion on what they can or can't say, so I'm surprised he understands.
Brainy26-Sep-21 09:33 AM
Yeah, I think it's because I didn't tell him, "you can't say this." More like, I just explained why I deleted that past conversation (out of concern for the server) and how I worry about the potential of someone reporting out of context posts like that. He seemed to understand and said it's nice of me to look out for him, but he already had this happen once from a post made on here, which really sucks...(edited)
ExecutiveJackbotBOT26-Sep-21 09:35 AM
GAMER???
Stannic26-Sep-21 09:35 AM
it's easy to get his ass banned
Black Lily26-Sep-21 09:36 AM
I remember when his and bananer's accounts got deleted and I'm pretty sure paracon was the person that reported carl(edited)
Brainy26-Sep-21 09:36 AM
No idea what the actual thing was though that got him banned.
Stannic26-Sep-21 09:37 AM
Did paracon hinted about that?
Brainy26-Sep-21 09:37 AM
Were they both around the same time?
Black Lily26-Sep-21 09:37 AM
I called him out when he sperged and left the discord and nobody ever had their accounts banned after that(edited)
Stannic26-Sep-21 09:38 AM
Brainy26-Sep-21 09:38 AM
So he's gone for good?
Stannic26-Sep-21 09:38 AM
Paracon is here
I think this is a while back
Black Lily26-Sep-21 09:38 AM
It was after the George Floyd stuff
Brainy26-Sep-21 09:39 AM
That's what Carl said he got banned around
Black Lily26-Sep-21 09:39 AM
When discord said they'd be cracking down
Stannic26-Sep-21 09:39 AM
lol
Good old #happening
Black Lily26-Sep-21 09:40 AM
I was hoping that channels wound's be needed anymore after the election
But shit just doesn't stop happening
Brainy26-Sep-21 09:42 AM
I feel like it's better just having it there.
It's contained in one place and it's easier to scan / remove something if it crosses the line
Stannic26-Sep-21 09:43 AM
it's a an electric fly trap
Brainy26-Sep-21 09:43 AM
Also there's a lot of context in one place which really helps.
Stannic26-Sep-21 09:43 AM
it brings out the stupid shit and contains it
just like nsfw-chat
Brainy26-Sep-21 09:44 AM
The Carl posts for instance, I deleted them, but I was able to leave the original image prompting the discussion for context (just in case it gets reported, if Discord investigates context). If this happened in #general, there would be so much discussion in-between those posts that the context would be diluted and drowned out.
I feel like it being segregated from #general makes context easier to locate and preserve in "edge" cases.(edited)
Stannic26-Sep-21 09:45 AM
still
Brainy26-Sep-21 09:45 AM
Not just for Discord, but for us too I mean.
Agree with this 500% if we have proof of it
Black Lily26-Sep-21 09:46 AM
There's no proof
Stannic26-Sep-21 09:46 AM
aw
Brainy26-Sep-21 09:46 AM
Yeah figured as much
Black Lily26-Sep-21 09:47 AM
I just trust my hunches because I'm usually right
Brainy26-Sep-21 09:47 AM
Sounds like you are too
I just wouldn't feel comfortable voting on it without proof though
Stannic26-Sep-21 09:47 AM
Pineapples26-Sep-21 09:51 AM
Yeah, figuring out who does this shit is almost impossible. And anyone who says it was them is probably just shitposting.
Stannic26-Sep-21 09:52 AM
or baiting
i know idiots love to throw around names when someone in vrc gets banned
just like how last year, duznot got banned for 3 months for that 9/11 map
and someone threw around names like nanners reporting duznot and saying something like "it offended vets"
Black Lily26-Sep-21 09:54 AM
Or like who reported cab
Except I actually know a couple of the people that reported him
Stannic26-Sep-21 09:54 AM
and wired took the blame for it in the thread
kek
Black Lily26-Sep-21 09:54 AM
Ironically wired had nothing to do with it
Stannic26-Sep-21 09:55 AM
oh nah
he doesn't invest enough energy to care after blocking
he just goes on with life
Black Lily26-Sep-21 09:55 AM
Anons were just tired of cabs posts
Every thread
For months
Stannic26-Sep-21 09:56 AM
make filtering 200x easier with a simple click
Black Lily26-Sep-21 09:57 AM
Filters are gay
Stannic26-Sep-21 09:57 AM
filters are great for filtering out /gif/ and /h/
wdym
Black Lily26-Sep-21 09:59 AM
I will complain about things I don't like and there's nothing you can do about it(edited)
Stannic26-Sep-21 09:59 AM
oh
i use the filter to block out the usual cab posting or jelly posting
Black Lily26-Sep-21 09:59 AM
Jelly doesn't even look at the thread anymore
Stannic26-Sep-21 10:00 AM
oh so it's some other schizo then
Black Lily26-Sep-21 10:00 AM
It's been our other shitters pretending to be him for a while now
Stannic26-Sep-21 10:00 AM
oh
lol
Black Lily26-Sep-21 10:00 AM
The sneed people
Stannic26-Sep-21 10:01 AM
they always use the same keywords anyways
so its easy to filter
Pineapples26-Sep-21 10:01 AM
It still baffles me that people would rather spend their time trying to make someone look back for whatever reason than just doing shit that's actually enjoyable.
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Stannic26-Sep-21 10:01 AM
^
Black Lily26-Sep-21 10:01 AM
Should ask scoop
Pineapples26-Sep-21 10:01 AM
I know it's 4chan and it's full of people who are messed up in the head, but still.
Stannic26-Sep-21 10:02 AM
it's 4chan sure and it doesn't need to have the same constant red baron sniper shitting up the thread
but when you have 10 people like that there's gotta be a line
just that vg makes it easier to target threads rather than on /v/ or /a/ when there was like 6-20 threads of the same shit
Distoibed26-Sep-21 10:04 AM
15 posts just got obliterated just now
either a janny is now looking into our threads more often
or a new janny has been accepted that's a /vrg/ member
Brainy26-Sep-21 10:04 AM
People preoccupy themselves so much with disliking others here. I really don't get it at all.
Stannic26-Sep-21 10:05 AM
i always project that they have nothing else going on in their lives much like twitter's ivory tower assholes and make a big deal out of nothing to keep themselves occupied
Pineapples26-Sep-21 10:05 AM
I've seen people commenting for a while that fucktons of posts get deleted from the threads.
Brainy26-Sep-21 10:06 AM
Any idea why?
Stannic26-Sep-21 10:06 AM
with the amount of shit deleted i'm surprised we haven't been kpsg'd yet
Black Lily26-Sep-21 10:06 AM
Didn't janny email just go out recently
Distoibed26-Sep-21 10:06 AM
coming weeks
Black Lily26-Sep-21 10:08 AM
Probably just got the attention of a janny again he'll probably give up thanks to the sheer volume of shit in a week
Pineapples26-Sep-21 10:09 AM
Yeah, I figure someone noticed a lot of shit in the thread and so keeps an eye out for it.
Well, rather I figured that's a possibility, not that that's definitely what's happening.
Black Lily26-Sep-21 10:11 AM
Maybe it's Distoibed
Distoibed26-Sep-21 10:11 AM
oh shit
Black Lily26-Sep-21 10:11 AM
I'm onto you
Stannic26-Sep-21 10:11 AM
it's zipzoop
dm him
i think he's jannying
Black Lily26-Sep-21 10:12 AM
He's asleep
Stannic26-Sep-21 10:12 AM
dammit i'm trying to make a bad joke here
Black Lily26-Sep-21 10:12 AM
It's you
Stannic26-Sep-21 10:15 AM
Nah
Black Lily26-Sep-21 10:15 AM
Damn
Stannic26-Sep-21 10:16 AM
I don't want to read shit that kills my braincells more than what alcohol does to me already
Black Lily26-Sep-21 10:16 AM
That's exactly what a janny would say
Black Lily
It's you
Distoibed26-Sep-21 10:16 AM
It's me
powertripping from being a mod here isn't enough
I NEED MORE POWER
Stannic26-Sep-21 10:17 AM
imagine what they have to read along side vrg
bdog and xivg in particular
Black Lily26-Sep-21 10:17 AM
Stannic26-Sep-21 10:17 AM
and dbdg
Distoibed26-Sep-21 10:18 AM
dbdg that bad?
Stannic26-Sep-21 10:18 AM
people constantly posting they wanna smell [female's ass] and lick [female's feet]
and/or fotm drama between twitch streamers
Black Lily26-Sep-21 10:19 AM
Why can't people just talk about things without being a degenerate for five seconds
Pineapples26-Sep-21 10:19 AM
/v/ is awful as well. Most threads are either complaining about a popular game or coomer threads.
Distoibed26-Sep-21 10:19 AM
when the environment accepts it
more people are inclined to do it
Stannic26-Sep-21 10:19 AM
^
Black Lily26-Sep-21 10:19 AM
Ban them all
Pineapples26-Sep-21 10:19 AM
I don't know why I still waste time scrolling through for the rare thread that has anything interesting.
Distoibed26-Sep-21 10:20 AM
I do the same pineapples
but then it's for DMC threads
Stannic26-Sep-21 10:20 AM
rare threads are gone or they moved on to other platforms
the ones who create them at least
v is still worth it when dev shitshow happens at least
tlou2 was a really fun time
Krial26-Sep-21 10:40 AM
Well, jannies don’t really have to stick to generals
Or, they can choose to do only one general on vg. There’s not many rules
When I used to do it, it was v vg and x for me a long time ago
I pretty much only did katawa shoujo on vg though
Black Lily27-Sep-21 08:02 PM
Something I've been thinking about since the 9/11 event and what everyone else's opinion. Should we just ban people that have no interest in actually joining the discord and only show up to stir shit?
Such as Scoop and Cdubb
Mumu from NYC27-Sep-21 08:20 PM
Maybe not cdubb, scoop absolutely
ToddBotBOT27-Sep-21 08:21 PM
Dal29027-Sep-21 08:23 PM
Besides banning won't fix somebody like ryder or others from just miming this crap anyway, can't fix that with bans
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Mumu from NYC27-Sep-21 08:23 PM
>talking to them or hashing it out will
In a normal situation yes sure absolutely, but do you know what will happen is you'll do it then they'll immediately turn around and shitpost you in and out of game(edited)
You knowhow these things go dal
Mumu from NYC
>talking to them or hashing it out will
In a normal situation yes sure absolutely, but do you know what will happen is you'll do it then they'll immediately turn around and shitpost you in and out of game (edited)
Dal29027-Sep-21 08:24 PM
I am fully aware I talked to ryder, banned him from my cord, then had those fuckers leak my dms and put them in the OP among other situations, im 290lbs for christ sake. Somebody has to be the bigger man on things or we devolve into petty disputes and bridges getting fucked.
It's kind of why I bash my head against guys like yuki and these others, what is the worst they are going to do, shitpost me more :^)
Mumu from NYC27-Sep-21 08:25 PM
I mean you just said it yourself there
Dal29027-Sep-21 08:27 PM
Yee, so in the case of decimating the relations bingus with these fucks, it would be best to hold off, fuckers gotta learn acceptance
Black Lily27-Sep-21 08:27 PM
I don't think talking to them works they always double down
Guno27-Sep-21 08:27 PM
Donno about banning but it should be easy enough to tell if someone is joining just to shitpost about something currently happening
such as cdubb with 9/11 event
so you can just not approve them for that day
Black Lily27-Sep-21 08:27 PM
And they discredit anything any of us say because discord mod
Dal29027-Sep-21 08:28 PM
Well outside of lets try and unfuck this situation, them dropping by to be assholes only serves to educate people to the situation
What kind of petty fucker drops by a discord just to shitfling, it speaks for itself
Black Lily27-Sep-21 08:33 PM
I still think it's funny that the fuck the discord faction are responsible for making the thread a dumpsters fire for the last could years
Dal29027-Sep-21 08:33 PM
The biggest issue is the idiots in good company factor, some people don't realize how retarded some of those guys actually are
Mumu from NYC
I mean you just said it yourself there
Dal29027-Sep-21 08:36 PM
Oh yeah also, in me dming and talking to people directly, I know amongst the people I talk to are regular posters or chill, and who hits me with autism at %500 volume or struggles to keep a lid on their opinions, it is important to know after a great deal of time and all of the people who have joined. I respect guys like kirby hina gizmo and others that don't like the discord and I have talked to them about it before.
Black Lily27-Sep-21 08:41 PM
Plenty of people don't like the discord but they understand that some people do so they don't stir shit constantly
Azuth27-Sep-21 08:42 PM
hell I was one of em and now look at me
Dal29027-Sep-21 08:42 PM
Yee I can respect those guys it is their choice in the end, don't really pressure people to join any discord
Azuth27-Sep-21 08:43 PM
yep, the people who want to will, the people who won't won't
Black Lily27-Sep-21 08:44 PM
Then there's people that think we have actual power and want it for themselves
Dal29027-Sep-21 08:44 PM
Like just call me on fucking discord fuck
Mumu from NYC27-Sep-21 08:47 PM
Imagine wanting to powergrab and wrangle a bunch of retards
Azuth27-Sep-21 08:48 PM
ah yes I love getting mod pings at 3am
ExecutiveJackbotBOT27-Sep-21 09:04 PM
Das racist... wait no it's not
Krial27-Sep-21 09:05 PM
But also makes own discord and actively tries to get everyone on it
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
That being said. I 300% support keeping their bullshit fuck discord events off of here
Comedy night fucking sucked, 9/11 fucking sucked
If they hate us so much, they can use “their” thread to advertise their bullshit(edited)
Also, should we worry about “ruining a friendship” when they’re the ones actively shitting on it? I don’t see us making events shaming those who browse the thread exclusively.
Meeps27-Sep-21 09:09 PM
yea i brought it up before when they got grizly to advertise their thing
i dont care about their events but there's no point in letting them advertise here if they're just going to fuck with the people who go from here
Krial27-Sep-21 09:11 PM
Plus looks like whoever got Jannie is nuking all talks back and forth about fuck discord or praise discord
Now might actually be the best time to do it
If they sperg out, it’ll prolly just get them chain banned or range banned.
In fact, it may be smart to tell em face to face or through DM’s.
Whoever does it, watch what you say, and expect em to leak dm’s
When they do, we just wait and see what happens
ExecutiveJackbotBOT27-Sep-21 09:14 PM
Das racist... wait no it's not
Meeps27-Sep-21 09:15 PM
ya sure
Krial27-Sep-21 09:15 PM
Ty
Stannic28-Sep-21 12:32 AM
what kind of power do they think they get from being a fucking discord mod
i bashed heads with yuki for the last 2 years
about discord and thread
yuki thinks the thread is dying because of discord yet the thread still hits reply limit and next
all discord will be is a way to talk to people faster than waiting for a forum post and a (you)
they've made a vrg mumble in the past, to the soccer discord, and then to an official discord
Distoibed28-Sep-21 01:05 AM
Since they will see it as an achievement
And others will follow
Azuth28-Sep-21 01:09 AM
That's why I'm against it personally. they'll never want to join for real, so if all they do is pop into #welcome once in a blue moon , pingspam, and leave after 30 seconds, then they stay at that level
Krial28-Sep-21 01:09 AM
I highly doubt people will follow cdubb and scoop
Azuth28-Sep-21 01:09 AM
imo if we escalate with them, then they escalate with us
Krial28-Sep-21 01:09 AM
That’s all they do right now anyways azuth
Azuth28-Sep-21 01:09 AM
yeah
Krial28-Sep-21 01:09 AM
Oh
I misread
Hmm
Maybe compromise?
Tell em lay off shitting on us if they’re going to use us for free advertisement
And if they don’t, then we won’t let em advertise again
That being said I don’t think scoop had much if any to do with 9/11
Black Lily28-Sep-21 01:11 AM
I don't think we should ban them, I just wanted to see what everyone else thought
Krial
That being said I don’t think scoop had much if any to do with 9/11
Black Lily28-Sep-21 01:12 AM
But Scoop only hosts events to piss people off or cause drama
Krial28-Sep-21 01:12 AM
Idol was pretty tame other than cabs shit
And I’d argue that was more cab than him
And Valentine’s Day was fine.
Yuki pretty much has made it clear he was responsible for 9/11. But he apologized
I think if I talked to him he’d knock it off
Distoibed28-Sep-21 01:14 AM
Nah
Azuth28-Sep-21 01:14 AM
He was saying at the 9/11 itself that he was only helping as a volunteer
Krial28-Sep-21 01:15 AM
He got up on stage and took full responsibility at Grammys did he not
Azuth28-Sep-21 01:15 AM
he did?
Krial28-Sep-21 01:15 AM
Yeah
Azuth28-Sep-21 01:15 AM
must've missed it
Krial28-Sep-21 01:15 AM
That was what his whole speech shit was about
Distoibed28-Sep-21 01:15 AM
I'm not trusting any1 of those fuckers to learn and improved, they will Just keep doing the same things over and over to get their dicks hard
Azuth28-Sep-21 01:16 AM
oh you mean yuki krial
Krial28-Sep-21 01:16 AM
Yeah
Azuth28-Sep-21 01:16 AM
I was thinking scoop
Krial28-Sep-21 01:16 AM
Nah. I think scoop is harmless.
Personally.
I think yuki has the potential to cause issues
But I think if I talked to him he may fuck off
Azuth28-Sep-21 01:17 AM
I worked with scoop a shitload for the idol contest and never once detected malice
Krial28-Sep-21 01:17 AM
Ryder and cdubb and that gang
I got no clue
During prom scoop was great
Stannic28-Sep-21 01:18 AM
yuki has absolutely no balls to cause drama
Perrine28-Sep-21 01:18 AM
Ban from discord for doing things on discord that's banworthy.
Azuth28-Sep-21 01:18 AM
what's that old saying
Stannic28-Sep-21 01:18 AM
if he does it is out of ignorance and his high level social autism
Perrine28-Sep-21 01:18 AM
Discord != /vrg/
Krial28-Sep-21 01:18 AM
No ones talking about banning the people
Azuth28-Sep-21 01:18 AM
"Never attribute to malice what can be explained by stupidity"
Krial28-Sep-21 01:18 AM
Just banning their #events privileges if they continue shitting on everyone from here at their events(edited)
Perrine28-Sep-21 01:19 AM
I'm speaking in general. The only reason action should be taken of any kind here is if the discord is being abused somehow
That includes spamming events designed to antagonize discord users, imo, but I'm only aware of a single fuckup
Krial
But I think if I talked to him he may fuck off
Stannic28-Sep-21 01:20 AM
enjoy talking to a brick wall and circular logic
Azuth28-Sep-21 01:21 AM
he seemed reasonable in the thread, at the very least he admitted the idea was a major fuck up
Krial28-Sep-21 01:21 AM
Two fuckups @Perrine
9/11, and the entire month leading up to sneedup they flooded the thread shitting on discord
Two in a row technically.
Dal29028-Sep-21 01:22 AM
I always thought avoiding fixing things up in /vrg/ utilizing the discord was a huge mistake, modern day issues in /vrg/ could have been solved in two seconds if the discord was used.
Stannic28-Sep-21 01:22 AM
oh so you mean actually communicating?
Dal29028-Sep-21 01:22 AM
We wouldn't be dealing with crap like mama if we started banning or making it clear that openly inviting the crashing screaming person isn't acceptable
Azuth28-Sep-21 01:23 AM
I don't know if it was yuki, but there was one anon in the thread claiming to be the Sneedup organizer who was saying he didn't care what event people went to
Stannic28-Sep-21 01:23 AM
i know that yuki does not absolutely shit up the thread
you can also tell it's yuki by the blatant esl or the long ass posts that's written by a chuuni
Azuth28-Sep-21 01:24 AM
my suspicion is that the event was co opted by others to use for shitposting
Stannic28-Sep-21 01:24 AM
^
Azuth28-Sep-21 01:25 AM
it's obviously him posting that vr manga right now, but it got me interested in reading it
Stannic28-Sep-21 01:25 AM
yeah
he's usually on topic or adding something related to the thread and interests
for the shitposters
Dal29028-Sep-21 01:26 AM
That much was obvious, but nah he does a bit more then that, he is in a gray area of considering damage or harm to the the thread acceptable as long as it hurts the discord or pretty much %90 of na
Stannic28-Sep-21 01:26 AM
i'd assume it's the usual gang
Dal29028-Sep-21 01:26 AM
Ends justifying the means, and he knows some means
Stannic28-Sep-21 01:26 AM
Oh
Dal29028-Sep-21 01:26 AM
He calmed down in recent time after the 9/11 junk
Stannic28-Sep-21 01:26 AM
like the phonebook crap and being a dumbass about modern ways to communicate
Dal29028-Sep-21 01:26 AM
Others didn't though
Azuth28-Sep-21 01:27 AM
thankfully we have our new mystery jannie
Krial28-Sep-21 01:27 AM
If it’s someone even here
I think the odds are good that it’s a vrg member
Stannic28-Sep-21 01:27 AM
i shat on him in dms and he seems to have calm down along with other factors
Azuth28-Sep-21 01:28 AM
discord posts haven't lasted long and it's been consistent over the past few threads so I agree
no one but our own would police our thread for free
Black Lily28-Sep-21 01:29 AM
We already figured out it's @Distoibed
Obviously
Stannic28-Sep-21 01:29 AM
can't believe it's all an inside job
Perrine28-Sep-21 01:29 AM
If people are shitting up the thread, there's nothing we can do about it other than tell people not to. All we're responsible for is managing this server, a communication hub for 4chan vr users. We shouldn't try to do anything more, and not worry about it either
Speculating and gossipping otherwise can easily lead to cliquing and secret clubs
Azuth28-Sep-21 01:30 AM
that's a good point, it's mostly theories and hearsay
Perrine28-Sep-21 01:31 AM
And if you want to gossip and speculate anyway, I'd recommend doing it outside the moderation channel
People often care too much about things that don't matter or are beyond their control. We would do well to remember that ourselves.
Azuth28-Sep-21 01:32 AM
wisdom
Black Lily
Obviously
Distoibed28-Sep-21 01:33 AM
Dal29028-Sep-21 01:37 AM
Haha I am going to talk to yuru because he saw some things I am seeing now, hopefully he is receptive to that kind of talk
Dal290
Haha I am going to talk to yuru because he saw some things I am seeing now, hopefully he is receptive to that kind of talk
Stannic28-Sep-21 01:40 AM
what happened this time
Dal29028-Sep-21 01:41 AM
His fear about certain event conductors and all that
I want to know what the heck he knew and never communicated well enough
Stannic28-Sep-21 01:42 AM
>event conductors
distiobed does it again
Krial28-Sep-21 01:48 AM
I sleep early
Night losers
Stannic
distiobed does it again
Distoibed28-Sep-21 01:54 AM
What
Me shitposting or me being the sekrit pocket Janny?
@Stannic dont leave me hanging like this!
Dal29028-Sep-21 02:03 AM
Distoibed
@Stannic dont leave me hanging like this!
Stannic28-Sep-21 03:14 AM
gaining too much power
Distoibed28-Sep-21 03:19 AM
It is me who controls the shadowleaders subconciously
Jason28-Sep-21 03:47 AM
@mod gib announcements
Jason
@mod gib announcements
Black Lily28-Sep-21 05:18 AM
Yes
Jason28-Sep-21 05:20 AM
domo
arigato
Dal290
I am fully aware I talked to ryder, banned him from my cord, then had those fuckers leak my dms and put them in the OP among other situations, im 290lbs for christ sake. Somebody has to be the bigger man on things or we devolve into petty disputes and bridges getting fucked.
Brainy28-Sep-21 05:35 AM
It was Ryder who posted your DMs in the thread or someone else?
Dal29028-Sep-21 05:36 AM
He handed them to the shitposter fuckers, they made it the thread OP to dig in, usual spiteful crap
Brainy28-Sep-21 05:36 AM
Also I agree with all that was said about not needing people here who are not here for meaningful contribution / engagement.
Even posting foot pics in #nsfw-chat has more meaningful contribution / engagement than coming here just to shit on people and leave.
Dal290
He handed them to the shitposter fuckers, they made it the thread OP to dig in, usual spiteful crap
Brainy28-Sep-21 05:37 AM
That's pretty fucked up TBH.
Dal29028-Sep-21 05:38 AM
They've been at it for years, just glad they keep fucking up so bad it's more obvious to others as to how problematic enabling shitstirring fuckers is regardless of their "status" within the community.
From this point on, confusion about not message deletions
My first thought was bad word detection in URLs, but that doesn't seem to be the case
Krial29-Sep-21 08:21 PM
Can we get music bot
I can find one if necessary
Azuth29-Sep-21 08:24 PM
wasn't jackbot supposed to get music?
@./a.out
Krial29-Sep-21 08:26 PM
Filet mignonion
Azuth
wasn't jackbot supposed to get music?
./a.out29-Sep-21 09:02 PM
Ah yes. I can port that over now, i got the major bugs fixed
Krial29-Sep-21 09:03 PM
Ayyy
Whay them commands onion
I’ll write up announcement
./a.out29-Sep-21 09:05 PM
Gotchu gotchu, first imma make sure asylum's server is compatible with the api's I used, but as far as commands we got:
*play (or *p)
*q (to see the queue)
*skip
*clear
*shuffle
*remove [# in queue]
*join
*fuckoff
Mumu from NYC29-Sep-21 09:05 PM
Make the bot only play Christmas songs
Krial29-Sep-21 09:07 PM
Based.
What does fuck off so just make it leave? Lol
./a.out29-Sep-21 09:31 PM
Yea lol, fuckoff is just leave
Mumu from NYC
Make the bot only play Christmas songs
./a.out29-Sep-21 09:31 PM
I'll do that on December 1st
Krial29-Sep-21 09:31 PM
Lmao
That’d be hilarious
Want me to test it rq?
./a.out29-Sep-21 09:32 PM
If you want lol. I havent sent it to asylum, but the inner ring jackbot has all the features in it, so feel free to beta test there
Krial29-Sep-21 09:32 PM
Aight
When done eating I test
./a.out29-Sep-21 09:52 PM
Gotchu gotchu
Krial29-Sep-21 09:55 PM
It woooorks
./a.out29-Sep-21 11:08 PM
fuck yeeeeeea
he only takes youtube requests atm, but I'll add support for soundcloud, spotify, etc. in the future
wanted to get the main bread and butter workin first
./a.out
Gotchu gotchu, first imma make sure asylum's server is compatible with the api's I used, but as far as commands we got:
*play (or *p)
*q (to see the queue)
*skip
*clear
*shuffle
*remove [# in queue]
*join
*fuckoff
🔇29-Sep-21 11:10 PM
Perrine29-Sep-21 11:33 PM
Eva's back, eh?
Perrine
Eva's back, eh?
Krial29-Sep-21 11:41 PM
Been back about a week or two now
Perrine29-Sep-21 11:42 PM
were they the one with the video they had to make?
They probably have, but nothing has been made public
Dal290
Names?
Black Lily30-Sep-21 02:07 AM
It was a joke from the start
Black Lily
It was a joke from the start
Dal29030-Sep-21 02:15 AM
Oh lol I need to stop checking here after drinky
Stannic30-Sep-21 02:17 AM
let me join you with the drinking dal
Dal29030-Sep-21 02:17 AM
I have been talking around about that issue, only guy I am concerned with is vanilla oatmeal, aside from that things look p clean. Most of the people are spooked for accidentally letting them in so I am p sure people will self check that issue now.
Black Lily30-Sep-21 02:25 AM
I'm still pretty sure Vanilla is like 14
Azuth30-Sep-21 02:29 AM
I just wanna slap down the funny dominos
why people gotta make it weird
Krial30-Sep-21 02:34 AM
Vanilla no way is underage
If he is I’d be shocked
Azuth
why people gotta make it weird
Stannic30-Sep-21 02:35 AM
it was gonna head down the weird path when people go full nude and shit at those mahjooming games
Azuth30-Sep-21 02:37 AM
but like
why get nude
Pineapples30-Sep-21 02:38 AM
Because they're coomers.
Stannic30-Sep-21 02:38 AM
ask them
Pineapples30-Sep-21 02:38 AM
It's like how sharks can't stop swimming or they die.
Azuth30-Sep-21 02:39 AM
aaaaah ok
they must coom to live
Pineapples30-Sep-21 02:40 AM
Like the movie Crank, but instead of adrenaline keeping him alive it's his boner.
Stannic30-Sep-21 02:41 AM
he gotta crank it out
Pineapples
Like the movie Crank, but instead of adrenaline keeping him alive it's his boner.
Distoibed30-Sep-21 02:49 AM
First Jason statham movie I saw
Pineapples30-Sep-21 02:51 AM
Damn fun movie. Wouldn't want to get started going on about it and the sequel in this channel, though.
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Krial30-Sep-21 04:04 AM
Pinned a message.
Jason30-Sep-21 03:07 PM
Crank 1 and 2 are some of my favorite movies along with shoot em up, love campy action
Distoibed30-Sep-21 03:14 PM
hmm
haven't seen crank 2
Jason30-Sep-21 04:39 PM
Honestly might like it more than the first, sillier, more over the top, bit more stylized
June01-Oct-21 04:53 PM
banned cabs alt
you dont have to leave that shit up @Meeps
Meeps01-Oct-21 05:14 PM
I didn’t see it. It’s not a big deal to me anyways. No worries
June01-Oct-21 06:58 PM
Ah alright
Black Lily02-Oct-21 06:34 AM
Why doesn't Carl ever shut up
Distoibed02-Oct-21 07:37 AM
I think it can easily be boiled down to: He has nothing better to do
Black Lily02-Oct-21 07:41 AM
He should try playing video games instead of writing essays in discord
Krial02-Oct-21 06:08 PM
@Distoibed
If it helps that guys pretty cool
And has been to tons of meets
Distoibed02-Oct-21 06:10 PM
im drinking in vrc
not gonna interview him
guy could be the coolest kid around the block, if he's here to fuck and getting fucked, he has to do a hard sell for me to allow him
Krial02-Oct-21 06:13 PM
I don’t think I’ve seen him doing that kind of shit before
Tbh
Krial02-Oct-21 06:26 PM
@Distoibed
Read interview when bored
Looks clean to me
Good board taste, not shit taste in other games
I made fun of his name at least twice and he wasn’t doing any coomer shit when I saw em.
Distoibed02-Oct-21 06:28 PM
good shit
I'll give him the role
Krial02-Oct-21 06:28 PM
Aight.
I don’t vouch, but I can say I haven’t seen any red flags
Black Lily03-Oct-21 01:06 AM
Stannic03-Oct-21 01:39 AM
What
Black Lily03-Oct-21 01:40 AM
It's a shitpost thankfully
Mumu from NYC03-Oct-21 01:43 AM
hello i am bringing spy information
ryder and crew and making threads and fucking with the op again
Black Lily03-Oct-21 01:54 AM
Of course
Are they admitting to it in game @Mumu from NYC
Perrine03-Oct-21 02:03 AM
Does it matter?
Black Lily
Are they admitting to it in game @Mumu from NYC
Mumu from NYC03-Oct-21 02:06 AM
'ryder you made it too early'
Perrine
Does it matter?
Black Lily03-Oct-21 02:12 AM
I think it's funny
Perrine03-Oct-21 02:13 AM
Sure, but people tend to think the thread OP is srs bsns
Stannic03-Oct-21 05:55 PM
sounds like they're still stuck in 2018 when thread OP was srs bsns to some that there was some mini stints or dramasodes about it
you can ask dal about it
June03-Oct-21 05:59 PM
Azuth03-Oct-21 06:13 PM
imo as long as they keep all the headset and game info I really don't care what discord the OP links or doesn't link to
it's not relevant to the thread topic
Black Lily03-Oct-21 10:38 PM
I'm tired of every event being a dance event
🔇03-Oct-21 10:44 PM
make a murdered event for Halloween then
Black Lily03-Oct-21 10:48 PM
If I could actually get time off work I probably would
June03-Oct-21 10:58 PM
did you make some call bullshit in here @🔇
@Dal290 is telling me about something you miffed him on
🔇03-Oct-21 10:58 PM
what do you mean? i havent done anything
only "call" i made was having jackbot not able to join or leave unless a mod did it
Dal29003-Oct-21 10:59 PM
Other bs, lemme call
🔇03-Oct-21 10:59 PM
i have no idea
June03-Oct-21 10:59 PM
no call
I have more important shit than discord right now
Black Lily03-Oct-21 11:02 PM
What are you people on about
🔇03-Oct-21 11:02 PM
in a call with dal rn
June03-Oct-21 11:03 PM
thank you
Dal29004-Oct-21 12:17 AM
User was vetted in dms
Mumu from NYC04-Oct-21 01:50 AM
pls stop burning down discord
Distoibed04-Oct-21 04:09 AM
Dal can be quite miffed about a lot of things
Krial04-Oct-21 07:23 AM
Snowflake role for people who keep renaming themselves for top spot
“Center of attention :)”
With a stupid ass trans flag beside it that they can’t remove
Pineapples04-Oct-21 08:01 AM
I generally prefer not to do stuff that's just abusing our powers to mess with people, but that could be amusing. And at least it's harmless. Probably more people will do it just to get the role and the flag, but I guess that's not bad either.
Black Lily04-Oct-21 08:14 AM
I'm sure Cryptic would actually like that
Pineapples
I generally prefer not to do stuff that's just abusing our powers to mess with people, but that could be amusing. And at least it's harmless. Probably more people will do it just to get the role and the flag, but I guess that's not bad either.
Krial04-Oct-21 09:30 AM
We can remove it totally in a week(edited)
Just would be funny.
Pineapples04-Oct-21 09:33 AM
Yeah, seems fine to me.
Stannic04-Oct-21 10:31 AM
As long as we don't get another shitty episode of nsfw-chat drama
Distoibed04-Oct-21 10:50 AM
So it prob wont happen
Black Lily
I'm tired of every event being a dance event
Jason04-Oct-21 03:36 PM
i just logged off friday night cause everyone was at club piss again
Mumu from NYC04-Oct-21 03:43 PM
i didn't get on till late
we could've hung out jason
🔇04-Oct-21 03:44 PM
Yeah, I didn’t get on til after the event was ending.
Jason04-Oct-21 03:47 PM
i logged back on like an hour or two after once it had ended
Mumu from NYC04-Oct-21 03:50 PM
someone should just be a anchor for non-dance event people
Jason
i just logged off friday night cause everyone was at club piss again
Stannic04-Oct-21 04:06 PM
i didn't login
Jason04-Oct-21 04:09 PM
Yeah i havent seen you much lately
get on more
🔇04-Oct-21 04:33 PM
@Black Lily god damn it, I was trying to avoid that but it’s fine.
someone should just be a anchor for non-dance event people
Krial04-Oct-21 07:59 PM
People get mad when I anchor drinking night because I pick shit maps
Rip Carl but that melty was miiiighty strong
Black Lily04-Oct-21 08:02 PM
I believe he was in the top five for post count
Jason04-Oct-21 08:04 PM
what'd carl melty about now
Black Lily04-Oct-21 08:06 PM
How he hates every here and how all they do is make fun of him
Jason04-Oct-21 08:06 PM
>left again
Black Lily04-Oct-21 08:06 PM
He was also telling white lily that he has thin shin and this isn't his safe space yesterday
Guno04-Oct-21 08:08 PM
i always miss the melties
Jason04-Oct-21 08:08 PM
same
Krial04-Oct-21 08:16 PM
Oh he quite literally said
“I could kill every user here if I wanted to”
Lol
And told beef he was going to pay a junkie 50 euro to cut his throat
Dal29004-Oct-21 08:18 PM
Black Lily04-Oct-21 08:19 PM
I change my vote to perma ban carl
Stannic04-Oct-21 08:27 PM
Melty of the year award goes to
Krial04-Oct-21 08:29 PM
To be fair they were poking him hard
Stannic04-Oct-21 08:30 PM
he could've turned off the screen or learned to block beef
Krial04-Oct-21 08:31 PM
Yeah
200%
Black Lily04-Oct-21 08:34 PM
But he doesn't practice what he preaches
He needs to grow thicker skin
Stannic04-Oct-21 08:36 PM
yep
the excuse roulette will be he's drunk he's drunk he's drunk he's high he's drunk
back to gtavrp
Krial04-Oct-21 08:47 PM
@mod kick king theo if it’s in here
Theo lost his old acc
Azuth04-Oct-21 08:48 PM
done
Krial04-Oct-21 08:49 PM
Preesh
Dal29004-Oct-21 09:18 PM
He got l33t hacked
Krial04-Oct-21 09:57 PM
@Dal290
Cab in welcome
Can u
Or @mod
Dal29004-Oct-21 09:58 PM
Black Lily04-Oct-21 09:58 PM
I wanted to read it first
I wonder if he'll ever figure out Meeps doesn't give a shit anymore
Krial04-Oct-21 10:01 PM
It was the usual
He also has an alt in here.
He messaged me some shit I said in NSFW chat.
Black Lily04-Oct-21 10:01 PM
Of coarse he does
Dal29004-Oct-21 10:03 PM
Did the gestalt consciousness rile up the schizo's again
Black Lily04-Oct-21 10:03 PM
If I had to guess it'd be this one(edited)
Krial04-Oct-21 10:03 PM
Eh
who cares
Whatever or whoever it is isn’t hurting anything
Witch hunting just makes us look like schizos
Black Lily04-Oct-21 10:03 PM
True
Krial04-Oct-21 10:04 PM
Cab joining once a week to spam his copypasta is literally nothing
Black Lily04-Oct-21 10:04 PM
But I am curious how many accounts are in here with zero posts
Krial04-Oct-21 10:04 PM
Prolly several.
Prolly scoop and RH and cdubb have one.
Black Lily04-Oct-21 10:05 PM
I can prune eight people right now
🔇04-Oct-21 10:09 PM
prune is that they havent logged in, not that they dont post
Black Lily04-Oct-21 10:09 PM
I'm aware
Brainy05-Oct-21 03:46 AM
I've been really busy the last week on a trip out of state. What did I miss? Other than all of you, of course~
Krial05-Oct-21 03:57 AM
Not much
Carl got the boot
That’s about it
Perrine05-Oct-21 04:25 AM
He did?
Krial05-Oct-21 04:26 AM
Well he booted himself
But prolly was about to get it anyways.
Man literally threatened to kill everyone in the discord lol
June05-Oct-21 04:33 AM
Yep
He knew he was on probation anyways
One fuck up was all he had left
Dal29005-Oct-21 05:07 AM
I like establishing the trend of the laying out chances going forward, leaves room for improvement but holds weight on don't sped out, or else.
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Brainy05-Oct-21 07:06 AM
What made him blow up this time? Any chance he might come back?
Brainy
What made him blow up this time? Any chance he might come back?
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<305-Oct-21 07:19 AM
It's carl he will blow up at about anything.
Distoibed05-Oct-21 07:20 AM
it's just beef pissing off carl and thinking he's superior to carl
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<305-Oct-21 07:20 AM
Not even just relating to this situation but I don't like people leaving constantly and coming back.
Distoibed
it's just beef pissing off carl and thinking he's superior to carl
Black Lily05-Oct-21 07:52 AM
But beef is superior to carl
Just about everyone is
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<305-Oct-21 07:57 AM
Made a new banner for october if someone could upload it id appreciate it(edited)
i may need to move stuff to make it all fit if i do lmk
Black Lily05-Oct-21 08:05 AM
I got ya
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<305-Oct-21 08:05 AM
ty
Black Lily05-Oct-21 08:05 AM
We could also use a spooky logo
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<305-Oct-21 08:05 AM
ill make one if i get a transparent logo
wait i dont need one
nvm
Pineapples05-Oct-21 08:12 AM
I'd make one if I had any good ideas.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<305-Oct-21 08:15 AM
Pineapples05-Oct-21 08:25 AM
You can't even see what it is unless you look super close.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<305-Oct-21 08:28 AM
ill make a different one later today
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<305-Oct-21 08:41 AM
Black Lily05-Oct-21 08:44 AM
My favorite retarded anime girl
Perrine05-Oct-21 12:31 PM
I don't recognize her
Mumu from NYC05-Oct-21 01:22 PM
should add a mop emoji to jannie role
Mumu from NYC05-Oct-21 02:14 PM
oh yeah? watch this
removes boost
Meeps05-Oct-21 10:29 PM
fyi if you guys want you can turn on verfied emails so people like cab cant do the spam ban evade thing. i dont really care either way, it would probably annoy ppl if we turned that on
Dal29005-Oct-21 10:37 PM
That could add a layer of people bitching about the "accessibility" but I see no point in allowing unfiltered new accounts in, we get bot spam, cab, and alts leaking in from it.
Should poke people a bit and see how many do the verified thingy so it doesn't bop earnest people
Black Lily05-Oct-21 10:46 PM
Looks like it doesn't apply if they already have a role
So nobody would even notice
Brainy05-Oct-21 11:50 PM
I'm all in favor of enabling e-mail verification just for cutting down on bots.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3
Click to see attachment🖼️
Brainy05-Oct-21 11:51 PM
I love this!
Brainy
I love this!
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<305-Oct-21 11:51 PM
ty
Pineapples05-Oct-21 11:51 PM
Sounds good to me, I can't imagine anyone wouldn't have at least an email address attached to the account except for alts.
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Brainy05-Oct-21 11:52 PM
Yeah I feel like any edge cases like B should be something we can resolve just within DMs and make exceptions for there case-by-case.
IE disabling it so they can join long enough to give them a role and then enabling it again.
Meeps05-Oct-21 11:53 PM
yeah it's not like any of us can see the emails anyways
and since it doesnt apply to current roles it's pretty non-invasive
Black Lily05-Oct-21 11:55 PM
We could go all the way up to high since it doesn't affect anyone with a role
Meeps05-Oct-21 11:55 PM
no need for that really, all new people will need to wait a bit?
June05-Oct-21 11:56 PM
def not highest
wait 10min in welcome before posting
is what high would imply
Meeps05-Oct-21 11:56 PM
email should be more than enough
Dal29005-Oct-21 11:56 PM
Give me your phone number
Pineapples05-Oct-21 11:56 PM
I think medium would be good.
But just email is fine too.
June05-Oct-21 11:56 PM
dont think its needed since people just post and leave anyways if they are sent by mistake
Pineapples05-Oct-21 11:56 PM
Just not high, because that just makes it a pain for new people.
June05-Oct-21 11:57 PM
medium is what I also think at max, low is also fine
really we just need the email verify
Dal29005-Oct-21 11:58 PM
Med will only effect what would be filtered, if somebody just created discord to get into this one and is an earnest newfag, that is a fringe case, doubt anybody with an interest in using this cord wouldn't already have one.(edited)
Brainy05-Oct-21 11:59 PM
I like medium. Requiring phone number, I think a lot of people could take issue with it (ones who don't trust Discord).
Not everyone wants Discord knowing or storing their phone number.
June06-Oct-21 12:01 AM
wew
forgot I even put mine in
Black Lily06-Oct-21 12:02 AM
I think you had to put in in for the vrchat discord
Medium would be fine
Meeps06-Oct-21 12:03 AM
yeah mine is there too, i think it asks for it and you can put a fake one if you want
Guno06-Oct-21 12:38 AM
yeah email verification is so basic it shouldnt bother any majority
and medium is anti-bot yeah
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<306-Oct-21 08:38 AM
So are we going to ban carl now or or just say we are banning him and not actually do it?
We were discussing the 4Chan thread it originated in last night in #happening after it was posted
Brainy06-Oct-21 06:20 PM
I also feel like whoever posted it is not a native 4Channer.
I mean they refer to the Twitch community as "toxic".
Also hawk the #TwitchDoBetter movement at the end.
But the leak itself is legit
Black Lily07-Oct-21 01:24 AM
@mod@jannie added some stuff to #mod-voting
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Distoibed07-Oct-21 01:35 AM
Sad to see Carl go, but we've excluded people for less
Black Lily07-Oct-21 01:36 AM
He will not be missed
Except by Krial
Stannic07-Oct-21 01:38 AM
now teach lincoln how to be the village idiot
Guno07-Oct-21 01:39 AM
thats all i know lincoln as
Black Lily07-Oct-21 01:39 AM
Lincoln won't sit there and let people egg him on like carl did
It wouldn't be the same
Stannic07-Oct-21 01:40 AM
eh
just mention mister metokur or keemstar's side of youtube
it'll get him going for hours
Distoibed07-Oct-21 01:42 AM
Buddy of mine was almost keemstar's thumbnail creator
Stannic07-Oct-21 01:42 AM
all i know is that's what gets him going nowadays
Black Lily07-Oct-21 01:43 AM
Why hasn't keem gone under yet
Stannic07-Oct-21 01:43 AM
drama is lucrative
Black Lily
Why hasn't keem gone under yet
Distoibed07-Oct-21 01:43 AM
Dude knows how to fight
Stannic07-Oct-21 01:43 AM
keemstar is also deeply rooted in youtube's programs with connections and other shit
and he probably has decent lawyers out the wazoo
and compared to leafy or idubbz, he put hte effort in to secure himself
Distoibed07-Oct-21 01:44 AM
Long story short: hé does yt for fun nowadays, he invests in many games and gets a lot of money out of it
Stannic07-Oct-21 01:44 AM
oh
i didn't know that side
all i know is that he has a huge influence on youtube's partner program still
Distoibed07-Oct-21 01:45 AM
Yeah, but dude knows how to use his money
Stannic07-Oct-21 01:45 AM
i think he was able to get some of his buddies strikes removed when youtube fucked up quicker than vinesauce being flagged and taking about a week or so to get the flag removed
yeah
he isn't stupid, just a very hate-able person considering his past
Black Lily07-Oct-21 01:46 AM
I just think his content is shit and he doesn't deserve his popularity
Distoibed07-Oct-21 01:46 AM
Keem may look and act like a stupid fuck, but his business side is scary and serious
Stannic07-Oct-21 01:46 AM
if you wanna see stupid, go see ralph from ralphretort
acting stupid gets you more people than being serious
just look at twitch
Black Lily07-Oct-21 01:48 AM
Is Onision dead yet
Stannic07-Oct-21 01:48 AM
hell no
he does anything for clout nowadays
last i heard, he was victimizing himself with chris hanson
Distoibed07-Oct-21 01:48 AM
Yeah
Stannic07-Oct-21 01:48 AM
but he fell off because it was boring as hell
Black Lily07-Oct-21 01:49 AM
I heard Chris fucked that up pretty bad thanks to one of the guys he hired
Stannic07-Oct-21 01:49 AM
legal issues with a crazy who has money
who would've thought
Chris ain't comin back thats for sure
Azuth07-Oct-21 02:13 AM
haven't seen a vote as unanimous as the carl one in a while
June07-Oct-21 02:46 AM
he had his final chance
this was when he was going to be banned last time and I stuck up for him
Black Lily07-Oct-21 02:59 AM
It's not surprising if you read through his final melty
Distoibed07-Oct-21 03:29 AM
people don't understand how to balance a village idiot
Dal29007-Oct-21 03:29 AM
Balancing too many idiots ends up inviting more thinking they are in good company, get real with people
Brainy07-Oct-21 03:29 AM
I'm sure he'll be back in a month.
Dal290
Balancing too many idiots ends up inviting more thinking they are in good company, get real with people
Distoibed07-Oct-21 03:30 AM
people constantly piss him off and are then sad that he's gone
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Brainy07-Oct-21 03:30 AM
It's the VRG circle of life
Dal29007-Oct-21 03:30 AM
Nor do I agree with keeping lolcows around
We need filtering, not petty poking and crap, otherwise we end up becoming high school tier(edited)
if we weren't already
Dal290
if we weren't already
Brainy07-Oct-21 03:32 AM
I was about to ask
I've been out of the loop and I don't have a horse in this race either way, but are we keeping Carl out from now on?
Dal29007-Oct-21 03:33 AM
Go to mod voting
Brainy07-Oct-21 03:33 AM
As in was the decision to ban him or gate him out?
Ohh okie, checking now.
Dal290
Nor do I agree with keeping lolcows around
Distoibed07-Oct-21 04:14 AM
depends on what you see as a lolcow, cus there are a coiuple of others I see as one
Distoibed
depends on what you see as a lolcow, cus there are a coiuple of others I see as one
Dal29007-Oct-21 04:15 AM
Gimme ur thoughts, people need to stop getting their laughs off of people then wondering why we get cancer coming in.
I do not intend to push to keep out people if they are purposefully sustaining the problem so to speak
Distoibed07-Oct-21 04:21 AM
the root of it all IMO is vrchat being less of a game and more of a social simulator with vague game hints
People will let others in and giving them basic vrg information, they hop in the discord, fail the test and then bitch about the discord in the anonymous basket weaving zone (dexsan)
the only way we can stop this is if we all unanimously stopped inviting people in here who "are alright" even though they don't fit the criteria (davja)(edited)
lolcows invite their fellow lolcow friends, we could kick them out, but then where do we draw the line what a lolcow is?
I find aqo a lolcow cus his essays of human nature, bragging about his income and then crashing down in depression on why he's not happy at all amuse me to no end
There are a bunch of people in here you can prod with a stick in the right spot and get a decent read out of
Dal29007-Oct-21 04:40 AM
I agree with your assessment of getting rid of people who are "alright" I would even go as far as removing squatters, sure everyone is sick of *cryptic and others who have made this discord their permanent gay porn home, enough so that guys like dank were willing to go against the grain to try and stop it. I always viewed places like every inner circle as a way for most of these guys to weave in, if we try and control that %100 which we tried before, it becomes too hard to get people behind that, k3rn ended up arguing with so many people we went goo goo plus his life stuff. Rando problem is best controlled, thankfully with this discord, we can be hitters and say stop dumping your friends in here, stop the issue on this end, after all most of the VRC community thinks if you aren't in "the" discord, you aren't in, works.
I draw the line at people barely tolerated and brought around for watch them sperg reasons. Mamamad is a perfect example of somebody people thought was funny to drag into everyone's business, and it turned out that cow was so intense they dragged crashers and other bullshit into the meets. They are still around and they hop on invite links through the thread, worst possible outcome for people who are not comfy with discord invites. I guess discourage it at best, I'll call people assholes and pay attention to them inviting or accepting issues in, then later complaining about it, think that is a reasonable balance.(edited)
Distoibed07-Oct-21 04:41 AM
>after all most of the VRC community thinks if you aren't in "the" discord, you aren't in
This is the main issue that people have
ExecutiveJackbotBOT07-Oct-21 04:42 AM
I'm crying RN
Dal29007-Oct-21 04:44 AM
Yeah, trying to damage control the issue outside of discord is a huge issue too, I have talked to many people outside of /vrg/ and the metaphorical cat is out of the bag, people know it exist, some hate it, but a lot know it as a lewder group.
Distoibed07-Oct-21 04:44 AM
vocal minority...
Dal29007-Oct-21 04:44 AM
We need to do more things like the pools closed party to filter better
Distoibed07-Oct-21 04:44 AM
or majority at this point
Pineapples07-Oct-21 05:17 AM
Different subject, but can we get that bot exception set up for this channel, or people stop using words that trigger it? It hasn't happened just yet in this conversation, but it's hard to follow things when messages are removed by the bot before getting to read the channel.
Pineapples
Different subject, but can we get that bot exception set up for this channel, or people stop using words that trigger it? It hasn't happened just yet in this conversation, but it's hard to follow things when messages are removed by the bot before getting to read the channel.
Distoibed07-Oct-21 05:21 AM
kinda did with mine cus I said the t-word
Black Lily07-Oct-21 06:05 AM
Personally I consider paracon a lolcow
Pineapples07-Oct-21 07:53 AM
Man, there are so many people I've paid no attention to... or I guess they always post in nsfw channels so I never see them. I've seen lolcow around, but still don't know what his deal is.
Black Lily
Personally I consider paracon a lolcow
Krial07-Oct-21 09:06 AM
Wat
Why(edited)
Black Lily07-Oct-21 09:07 AM
He spergs easily
Krial07-Oct-21 09:07 AM
I’ve literally never seen him sperg
I see comfypillow sperg way more(edited)
Paracon just kinda shows up and hangs out most mornings I’m on
Black Lily07-Oct-21 09:08 AM
I've seen it many times before you came back
Distoibed07-Oct-21 09:13 AM
He spergs hard and agressively
Stannic07-Oct-21 09:16 AM
Cosnidering lolcows, isn't dot one of them
or fits the criteria
Krial07-Oct-21 09:17 AM
Dot doesn’t really sperg legitimately
Just ironically
Stannic07-Oct-21 09:18 AM
Distoibed07-Oct-21 09:18 AM
Dot's annoying
Stannic07-Oct-21 09:20 AM
who the fuck is davja
Krial07-Oct-21 09:20 AM
Weirdo
I think
Distoibed07-Oct-21 09:20 AM
Posh's bud who wanted in, got told to wait a month
ExecutiveJackbotBOT07-Oct-21 09:20 AM
I'm crying RN
Stannic07-Oct-21 09:20 AM
angel.net or whatever
Distoibed07-Oct-21 09:20 AM
Na
Angel left
Stannic07-Oct-21 09:21 AM
thank god
Krial07-Oct-21 09:21 AM
They didn’t talk much anywyas
Distoibed07-Oct-21 09:21 AM
Davja is the reason we had a big convo about telling randos to wait or never letting then in
ExecutiveJackbotBOT07-Oct-21 09:21 AM
Das racist... wait no it's not
Stannic07-Oct-21 09:21 AM
Krial07-Oct-21 09:22 AM
The 30+ year old giga coomer
Distoibed07-Oct-21 09:22 AM
No
Davja is a EU nerd with a big lisp
Krial07-Oct-21 09:22 AM
Oh davja wa the guy who just kept applying drunk
Distoibed07-Oct-21 09:22 AM
No
Stannic07-Oct-21 09:22 AM
iirc we also had ivy or whoever the fuck their name is trying to join several times also
going to meetups and trying to garner support also
Distoibed07-Oct-21 09:22 AM
Yeah
Ivy did that
Davja just resides in dalcord
Cus hé couldnt get in hete
Here
Stannic07-Oct-21 09:24 AM
inb4 people think this place is el dorado when it's just another shanty shit town in brazil
ExecutiveJackbotBOT07-Oct-21 09:24 AM
I'm crying RN
Stannic07-Oct-21 09:24 AM
and i remember some people trying so hard to get their friends in too
like bote and ashei sperging out that one of their spoonfed friends got gatekept
Krial07-Oct-21 09:25 AM
For a while I thought foxydougjbut was a girl lol
The voice is pretty fuckin good
Stannic07-Oct-21 09:25 AM
Krial07-Oct-21 09:25 AM
Just sounds like a fat girl
Lol
Stannic07-Oct-21 09:25 AM
they got a history
Distoibed07-Oct-21 09:25 AM
I remember that stannic
Krial07-Oct-21 09:25 AM
Don’t everyone
Stannic07-Oct-21 09:25 AM
which i'm not able to share
Distoibed07-Oct-21 09:25 AM
Ashei being mad
Stannic07-Oct-21 09:25 AM
includes hrt
Yeah Ashei being mad
going into feedback and spamming and shit
Black Lily07-Oct-21 09:26 AM
I don't know shit about them other than I think their avatar is ugly and I don't want to listen to their voice
Stannic07-Oct-21 09:26 AM
hue
and ashei barely posts in here and why bother letting friends in
Distoibed07-Oct-21 09:27 AM
Same with RH :-)
Heard voice and muted
Stannic07-Oct-21 09:27 AM
>hear RH's voice
>quickly and drunkenly try to click their capsule and lower their voice to 5%
Krial07-Oct-21 09:28 AM
RH’s used to not be so bad
Black Lily07-Oct-21 09:28 AM
Ashei is alright but he's become a bit of a shit stirrer over the years
Krial07-Oct-21 09:28 AM
But my god lately it’s getting almost unbearable.
Stannic07-Oct-21 09:28 AM
i only get news about RH's shit nowadays
i never spend time around them
Krial
But my god lately it’s getting almost unbearable.
Black Lily07-Oct-21 09:28 AM
What you hear now is what we hear when they first came around
ExecutiveJackbotBOT07-Oct-21 09:28 AM
Das racist... wait no it's not
Krial07-Oct-21 09:29 AM
Most of the week nights I hop around with that big zerg of people
Cuz literally no ones on
Stannic07-Oct-21 09:29 AM
I just know the gang is just high school level clique shit tier hell of gossipy and petty scheming fucks
Black Lily07-Oct-21 09:29 AM
I'm on during the week
Krial07-Oct-21 09:29 AM
Not my hours you aren’t
Distoibed07-Oct-21 09:29 AM
I really liked that post saying he's definetly female because no man could drive that bad in asseto corsa
Krial07-Oct-21 09:29 AM
I was on last night and didn’t see you.
Stannic07-Oct-21 09:29 AM
HAHAHAHAHAH
Black Lily07-Oct-21 09:30 AM
I am but I've been playing Borderlands wilth Zip, Ave, and Mew
Stannic07-Oct-21 09:30 AM
where zues
Black Lily07-Oct-21 09:30 AM
He goes to bed
Stannic07-Oct-21 09:30 AM
o
Black Lily07-Oct-21 09:30 AM
After anime
Stannic07-Oct-21 09:30 AM
fair he's got that 9-5
Black Lily07-Oct-21 09:30 AM
We've been watching Jojo
Stannic07-Oct-21 09:31 AM
Krial07-Oct-21 09:31 AM
Me and penumbra are trying to find our next anime to watch
We have been unsuccessful
Black Lily07-Oct-21 09:31 AM
Watch Usagi Drop
ExecutiveJackbotBOT07-Oct-21 09:31 AM
Das racist
Das racist... wait no it's not
Stannic07-Oct-21 09:32 AM
ExecutiveJackbotBOT07-Oct-21 09:32 AM
I'm crying RN
Krial07-Oct-21 09:32 AM
With the thread being so shit as far as OP’s go
It’s kind of difficult for people to NOT be spoonfed in
That’s the problem right now. There’s no legitimate way to find it.
Stannic07-Oct-21 09:33 AM
someone send krial link -> ask who they got the link from -> do the normal vetting process -> if they don't pass it's guillotine time
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Black Lily07-Oct-21 09:34 AM
You reminded me of something
Stannic07-Oct-21 09:34 AM
good
Distoibed07-Oct-21 09:34 AM
"huge barrier"
Black Lily07-Oct-21 09:34 AM
We could start doing a vouch system
ExecutiveJackbotBOT07-Oct-21 09:34 AM
I'm crying RN
Stannic07-Oct-21 09:35 AM
besides they left and came back a lot during yurucord so that can get fucked
Distoibed
"huge barrier"
Black Lily07-Oct-21 09:35 AM
Yes, keytar is a rando
Black Lily
Yes, keytar is a rando
Distoibed07-Oct-21 09:35 AM
Hé is?
Black Lily07-Oct-21 09:35 AM
She is yes
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Stannic07-Oct-21 09:35 AM
well if they can't be an adult then why let them in
Black Lily07-Oct-21 09:35 AM
Always was
Distoibed07-Oct-21 09:35 AM
Dude was here since early 2018
Even made a big autism spergs list
Black Lily07-Oct-21 09:36 AM
We found them in a public world
Distoibed07-Oct-21 09:36 AM
Ah
Black Lily07-Oct-21 09:36 AM
They didn't come from 4chan
Stannic07-Oct-21 09:37 AM
iirc keytar != faith right
I get the two mixed up for the amount of dumb shit that happened
because i thought peas was mushypeas
and not keytar
Black Lily07-Oct-21 09:39 AM
Faith is a different person
Krial07-Oct-21 09:39 AM
Keytar is mushypeas I thought
Black Lily07-Oct-21 09:39 AM
Peas is mush
Stannic07-Oct-21 09:39 AM
Mushypeas is Keytar?
Black Lily07-Oct-21 09:39 AM
And both are keytar
Yes
Stannic07-Oct-21 09:39 AM
Krial07-Oct-21 09:39 AM
Didn’t yuru simp for them or some shit
Black Lily07-Oct-21 09:39 AM
Faith is that one mute bird
Stannic07-Oct-21 09:39 AM
yes
entirely
Krial07-Oct-21 09:39 AM
Isn’t yuru like 40
Black Lily07-Oct-21 09:39 AM
Yes
Stannic07-Oct-21 09:39 AM
yes
yuru also got friendzoned by them
Krial07-Oct-21 09:40 AM
Stannic07-Oct-21 09:40 AM
if it wasn't obvious before
Krial07-Oct-21 09:40 AM
Black Lily07-Oct-21 09:40 AM
Then keytar started fucking some rpgl guy or something like that(edited)
Krial07-Oct-21 09:40 AM
This sounds embarrassing for all parties involved.
Black Lily07-Oct-21 09:41 AM
Someone from Errormdl's group
Stannic07-Oct-21 09:41 AM
lol
is that when yuru went melty
Black Lily07-Oct-21 09:41 AM
No
Yuru is an adult
He only had a melty because of the election and people putting too much pressure on him
Distoibed07-Oct-21 09:42 AM
I never interacted with Yuru, but I always thought hé was a rational person, being a defensive lawyer and about 2x the average age here, but then again, look at reminess
Black Lily07-Oct-21 09:42 AM
Not even really a melty
Stannic07-Oct-21 09:42 AM
Nah it was yuru being fed up
Krial07-Oct-21 09:42 AM
Just a bad call
Distoibed07-Oct-21 09:42 AM
No i mean, him simping
Krial07-Oct-21 09:43 AM
Oh. I mean people can get dumb feelings and make dumb choices
Happens to the smartest of people
Black Lily07-Oct-21 09:43 AM
He is rational
Stannic07-Oct-21 09:43 AM
well all of 2019 and 2020 when i stumbled in drunk with him being around mushy, he was always close with them
Black Lily07-Oct-21 09:43 AM
But imagine being single in your 40s
Stannic07-Oct-21 09:43 AM
he tried to form something and it didn't seem to work that well
Black Lily07-Oct-21 09:43 AM
Like aqo
Krial07-Oct-21 09:43 AM
Well it depends black lily
A lot of people are single by choice at that age
Having done marriage, divorced, etc
My dads wife now was single from 29-53
Cuz of an abusive husband
Black Lily07-Oct-21 09:44 AM
I'm 24 old man
Stannic07-Oct-21 09:44 AM
>40s
>4chinz vg
>containment board
>vrchat
Krial07-Oct-21 09:44 AM
People think if you’re not married at a certain age you’re weird, but it happens to a lot of people. It’s one of those weird topics like marriage after a spouse dies that people don’t like to talk about.
Distoibed07-Oct-21 09:45 AM
Makes me think, i need to start acting more normie irl and try to Find a gf that fits me
Black Lily07-Oct-21 09:45 AM
@Stannic you forgot about playing an mmo with /vg/
Stannic07-Oct-21 09:45 AM
^
Black Lily07-Oct-21 09:45 AM
I still miss TERA though
Stannic07-Oct-21 09:45 AM
i'm too much of a selfish prick with my time and money, and coming from an impoverished place, i want to spend a lot of my youth being dumb and stupid before i settle
Krial07-Oct-21 09:46 AM
Tera was a based game
Only combat I ever enhoyed
Enjoyed*
Distoibed
Makes me think, i need to start acting more normie irl and try to Find a gf that fits me
Black Lily07-Oct-21 09:46 AM
gf(male)
Krial07-Oct-21 09:46 AM
Felt so meaty to smack people as a slayer
Black Lily07-Oct-21 09:46 AM
I was a healer
I hated everyone I played with
Good times
Krial07-Oct-21 09:46 AM
Lol
I’m playing group Ironman with yum
It’s very fun
I wasn’t able to play much yesterday because of the fucking flu
Stannic07-Oct-21 09:47 AM
nah it's covid
Black Lily07-Oct-21 09:47 AM
You mean covid
Stannic07-Oct-21 09:47 AM
the 5g tells me so
Krial07-Oct-21 09:47 AM
Nah
Only lasted 3 days
No breathing affected
Black Lily07-Oct-21 09:48 AM
Did you forget to take your horse cream
Krial07-Oct-21 09:48 AM
No coughing had my taste
Just had horrible body aches chills and a fever
For like 3 days
Stannic07-Oct-21 09:48 AM
it went dormant because it figured it by gps location that it's trying to infect yet another florida man
Krial07-Oct-21 09:48 AM
Lm/9
Lmaoi
Lmao***
Stannic07-Oct-21 09:49 AM
it'll activate again when it figures out you've been reading about flat earth
they don't want you to know™️
Krial07-Oct-21 09:54 AM
They don’t want us to know it’s really Tuesday.
Krial
For a while I thought foxydougjbut was a girl lol
Pineapples07-Oct-21 10:27 AM
One time when we had our webcams going in the inner ring, she turned hers on as well. Sure looked like a girl to me, and none of the usual shit that tran knees take advantage of to look as convincing as possible. Though the camera was a bit far away and on such an angle that I couldn't see super well.
I still have my doubts, though. The voice sounds too much like how guys usually talk when they want to sound like a girl, but I guess a lot of girls do just sound like that.
ExecutiveJackbotBOT07-Oct-21 10:28 AM
I'm crying RN
Meeps07-Oct-21 11:53 AM
foxxy? he's a trap. works on planes irl - not technically trans i guess but i dont really know the difference
If doubt anybody autistic enough to do anything with the information is around anymore. People on the internet in general doxxed enough that the general mentality has turned into "yeah I know where I live too"
L3x pissed off the entire /kspg/ and was doxxed up and down, worst he ever got was a phonecall from some heavy breathing autist
If you arent a streamer people just dont bother anymore
Distoibed08-Oct-21 07:43 PM
best approach is to not give a fuck about being doxxed
once you make it a big deal, people will abuse it
Dal29008-Oct-21 07:43 PM
Exactly
Distoibed08-Oct-21 07:43 PM
lexicus wings his dox
so nobody even bothers with it anymore
Stannic08-Oct-21 07:44 PM
unless they're famous enough to get the crazier crowd to constant swat them
nothing ain't happening
xqc had to move recently because for months him and his gf got swatted or followed
and i don't think anyone here is a millionaire streamer with 60k+ viewers
Black Lily08-Oct-21 07:45 PM
Why didn't he just contact the police and explain who he is
Stannic08-Oct-21 07:45 PM
they did
texas isn't very understanding
Black Lily08-Oct-21 07:45 PM
Mundane mat somehow managed to do it when he was getting swatted(edited)
Stannic08-Oct-21 07:46 PM
mundane matt doesn't have the crazy legion of psychos
Black Lily08-Oct-21 07:46 PM
He's a crazy psycho himself
Stannic08-Oct-21 07:46 PM
yeah
he's fallen off hard too so nobody cares anymore
that and during that time, swatting was a lot easier and being done a lot in the skeptic community
and mundane matt was part of that shit show so they bring the worst of the worst
Black Lily08-Oct-21 07:47 PM
"skeptic"
Stannic08-Oct-21 07:47 PM
idk what it was but it's what people called it back then
Black Lily08-Oct-21 07:48 PM
I know I followed it at the time since it was during my edgy ashiest faze
Stannic08-Oct-21 07:49 PM
yeeah
Stannic
and i don't think anyone here is a millionaire streamer with 60k+ viewers
🔇08-Oct-21 07:49 PM
@Mumu from NYC is xqc tho
Stannic08-Oct-21 07:50 PM
then it's been inner community drama ever since and glad i left
Mumu from NYC08-Oct-21 08:21 PM
Black Lily08-Oct-21 08:22 PM
@Mumu from NYC
Stannic
iirc abraxxas and lexicus are sl players but not that prominent
Jason08-Oct-21 08:23 PM
a lot of slg are in vrg, like myself and asami, some others that i forget off the top of my head
./a.out
I think Moub doxxed a guy
Jason08-Oct-21 08:25 PM
moub doxxed vaun in xivg or some shit i think
tfw slowly reading
Black Lily
Why didn't he just contact the police and explain who he is
Jason08-Oct-21 08:27 PM
apparently the police knew but were obligated to check whenever they got the call, so xqc and the people around him came up with signs and stuff so they could quietly end stream, let the cops look about and leave without anyone noticing
Jason
a lot of slg are in vrg, like myself and asami, some others that i forget off the top of my head
kiki here too but he barely exists, im continuously surprised how many people i run into in vrc that ive known for years, mostly from slg
Distoibed08-Oct-21 09:30 PM
God I'm happy my uncle introduced me to SL at a very early age and I got revolted by it
Azuth08-Oct-21 09:38 PM
I played the shit out of second life in 2007-8
as part of a trolling & raid group
15 year old me would definitely have been a crasher if he found VRC
Jason08-Oct-21 09:48 PM
I got into sl at 11
explains a lot
Black Lily08-Oct-21 09:48 PM
You poor boy
Distoibed
God I'm happy my uncle introduced me to SL at a very early age and I got revolted by it
Krial08-Oct-21 09:53 PM
Your uncle introduced you to second life?
Black Lily08-Oct-21 09:57 PM
I'm glad I spent those years using a crack version of minecraft to impersonate Notch and fuck with servers
Also playing Halo
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Pineapples08-Oct-21 11:40 PM
I've certainly considered just leaving the server a bunch of times. Not because I hate this place, but just because there really isn't much for me here. But then I need something to spend time on during breaks at work.
June08-Oct-21 11:53 PM
thats a mood
theres basically zero for me to be here other than chatting
every channel topic I'd be interested in is boring as fuck
Pineapples08-Oct-21 11:57 PM
Yeah. Though honestly most conversations anywhere don't interest me, so it's not even necessarily this discord.
June08-Oct-21 11:58 PM
true
Distoibed
IMO it is
I'm not seething about it, but I preferred the time when people didn't just talk about swallowing a truckload of cock every day
Brainy09-Oct-21 12:14 AM
I thought I was the only one
Azuth09-Oct-21 12:17 AM
I wish it was possible to do something about it without enraging half the community
potential new /vrg/ anons see the current state of us and steer clear entirely, while we continue to attract more pre-groomed coomers
talking around other /vg/ generals, only /xivg/ has a worse reputation than us
and this is /vg/ we're talking about, a cancer containment board from the start
June09-Oct-21 12:38 AM
I just wish more people could read the room on when its fine or not
I swear people just go all in 24/7
Guno09-Oct-21 12:40 AM
vrg discord has for me has remained as a non-anonymous method of interacting with people interested in VR outside of vrchat. but dinner circles help out there too(edited)
also, i think social-based vg threads are inherintly bound to get bad reps
because people with names will get known
and are more likely to interact outside of just the thread
Meaning more drama will be brought into the thread that has 0 context for people not already involved
Azuth09-Oct-21 12:46 AM
we need a PR team or something
anyone already here knows we have some of the most motivated, talented people in any general ever
arguably better combined modeling skills than ameteur game dev general
other threads rely on devs for new content, we make and run all our new content
but all anyone outside of us hears about is the cooming
Guno09-Oct-21 12:50 AM
Because it's easy to shitpost about
Black Lily09-Oct-21 12:56 AM
Well the more creative people have mostly moved on as most people's motivation for making anything is cooming
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Guno09-Oct-21 12:58 AM
I feel like we have a bunch of those people still but ig uess it depends on what you mean by "moved on"
June09-Oct-21 12:58 AM
I mean I'm burnt out as fuck
Azuth09-Oct-21 12:58 AM
idk, duznot and yuki and yuru etc. are all mostly still around
June09-Oct-21 12:58 AM
candle at both ends for 3 years
Guno09-Oct-21 12:58 AM
I'm burnt out but not for coomers or w/e lol
Azuth09-Oct-21 12:58 AM
we've retained most of our major event talent
Guno09-Oct-21 12:59 AM
but because I cant juggle 2d creative job with 3d creative modeling hobby
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me want video game time :p
June09-Oct-21 12:59 AM
I honestly havent been to a event I liked since 2019
I think people still could make something good, but I'm clearly disfranchised and lost the joy in it
Guno09-Oct-21 01:00 AM
dal has done a great job maintaining his workflow, and him seperating workshop was probably for the best because it allows the people who dislike the stigma of this cord to go there freely
since i know plenty there that dont acutally come here
Azuth09-Oct-21 01:00 AM
true, lots of folks there who wouldn't be caught dead here
Pineapples09-Oct-21 01:01 AM
Yeah, I don't know the last time I went to an event. I don't even remember what events are these days. I think it's mostly weeb shit and dancing? Obvious exceptions being stuff like christmas, but I don't care much for them anyway and don't want to join guaranteed full worlds.
Black Lily09-Oct-21 01:01 AM
It might help if people posted about what they are working on during workshop
Guno09-Oct-21 01:01 AM
I show up for stuff but i dont get myself caught up on making stuff for it outside of secret santa stuff / helping out with testing things
June09-Oct-21 01:01 AM
the last christmas was awful from everything I saw of it
2018 christmas was peak for me
Black Lily09-Oct-21 01:02 AM
That was the ony one I ever went to
Pineapples09-Oct-21 01:02 AM
I think my favourite is halloween because I just get to see some cool avatars without having to go to a crowded world for some event using broken VRC shit.
Guno09-Oct-21 01:02 AM
In the thread? yeah maybe, I know that was a thing for a while people would post their inprogress stuff, not as common anymore
Pineapples
I think my favourite is halloween because I just get to see some cool avatars without having to go to a crowded world for some event using broken VRC shit.
June09-Oct-21 01:03 AM
true that
Guno09-Oct-21 01:03 AM
I just use the ghost lizard cause the first idea was the best idea
June09-Oct-21 01:03 AM
I cant stand the high effort maps anymore
Guno09-Oct-21 01:03 AM
:^)
Black Lily09-Oct-21 01:03 AM
Last hears Halloween costume contest was great
June09-Oct-21 01:03 AM
I want more maps and creative quality worlds, instead of rushed boring shit we get rn
Guno09-Oct-21 01:03 AM
Yeah, I wanna encourage more gameshow maps, i think wheel of fortune was still the best map yuki's gang has done
even if it was under the limitations of vrchat
we need to get jeopardy goin sometime
Azuth09-Oct-21 01:05 AM
there's an event in the works I'm really excited for, nothing like it has been done before
Guno09-Oct-21 01:05 AM
what?
June09-Oct-21 01:05 AM
whos running it
Azuth09-Oct-21 01:05 AM
newcomer, riggway
but guy knows his models and his C#
Guno09-Oct-21 01:05 AM
I think i've seen him in voice, the one with the nikei?
Azuth09-Oct-21 01:05 AM
yeah, he makes custom nikeis and has since the meme was fresh
Guno09-Oct-21 01:05 AM
haha
gotta love the purists
Azuth09-Oct-21 01:07 AM
but the idea is a camping event, run in real time
submit models for your campsite ahead of time
Black Lily09-Oct-21 01:07 AM
I knew Riggway in 2018 so I'm slightly concerned
Azuth09-Oct-21 01:07 AM
I haven't gotten any malicious vibes from him but I only met him last month
then during the day, scavenger hunts and hosted redirected nature walks
over time, the sun slowly starts to set, so you break out the campfire songs, drinks, scary stories, virtual marshmellows
some mild spooky happenings and other events at night, followed by passing out/sleeping in the virtual campsite for those so inclined
it was kinda inspired by the sneedup, how the map was so huge with lots of little things to see/do(edited)
but less of a shitpost
Guno09-Oct-21 01:10 AM
i missed the sneedup, went to the other thingy going on then forgot it was even going on when i was done with that
Azuth09-Oct-21 01:11 AM
say what you will about the intentions behind making it, but the map itself was damn impressive
Black Lily09-Oct-21 01:12 AM
My main concern with Rig is that I know he's powerhungry or at least used to be
And when he's in a position of power he hands power to his irl friends
Azuth09-Oct-21 01:12 AM
so we don't give him mod ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
there's not much "power" to be gained here in vrg
if he wants to spend hours making quality OC, more power to him
Black Lily09-Oct-21 01:20 AM
True
Krial09-Oct-21 02:49 AM
Riggway is pretty based.
Definitely an old hat
Power hunger aside running events satiates most of that
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<309-Oct-21 02:50 AM
I think riggway is pretty great to hang out with tbh
Krial09-Oct-21 02:50 AM
Yeah. He’s cool. I definitely like em
Dal29009-Oct-21 03:31 AM
Liking people and how they treat responsibility are seperate, don't know much about rigg, hopefully he learned some stuff in 3 years
Krial
Your uncle introduced you to second life?
Distoibed09-Oct-21 03:32 AM
Yeah, never thought anything about it, but I wouldnt put it past him if he erp'd on it
ExecutiveJackbotBOT09-Oct-21 03:35 AM
Das racist... wait no it's not
Dal29009-Oct-21 03:38 AM
Rampant is the best word, like all things it is best in balance where people can tolerate it in reasonable doses
I think this discord in effect created some of that when nsfw-chat was created, in VRC the burnout phase of lots of newfags isn't over.
Some of you guys might remember when sockscord was a big thing, eventually it simmered down, this kind of community jazz comes in waves.
Dal29009-Oct-21 03:50 AM
I say the solution remains in avoiding ducking or working around the issue behavior that lead to the creation of nsfw-chat in the first place and simply bite the bullet, delete it, let people congress elsewhere, either that or bop the squatters turning this into a gay parade with no interest in vr.
It is a bit too self sustaining at the moment, so yeah the simmering is going to take a long while at this rate
Pineapples09-Oct-21 03:57 AM
I don't think there's a damn thing we can do about it at this point. Too large a percentage of the community just wants to flirt with each other all day. If we were able to put a complete stop to it in the entire discord, then we'd just be left with basically nothing.
Most of the active people are coomers and all the new people are coomers. The rest of us have either lost interest in the community or moved on elsewhere.
Even general has some conversation for a bit, then 50% of it is shit like Dot, Coconut, or Penumbra flirting with people. Though in Dot's case I still don't even know if he's just shitposting.
I see it every fucking day and I just don't even bother to deal with it. There'd be no other conversation to replace it anyway since the people active at the time are just the coomers flirting.
Dal29009-Oct-21 04:01 AM
Well pinapples you are the perfect person to be here to understand part of this issue, I am sure you remember the juggle of dealing with moob, ritiko and the others that were constantly flirting in general and locking up discussion.
Pineapples09-Oct-21 04:02 AM
Yeah, but that was back when people still used general throughout the day. Now the majority of the active people are coomers who are only going to want to talk in nsfw chat and the few who aren't just go there because that's where the activity is.
General might as well just not exist at this point.
Dal29009-Oct-21 04:04 AM
Well, you saw the origin of the problem today, as a work around instead of simply banning moob and talking to the people directly to stop, nsfw-chat was created as a work around to not have to combat the included parties, as a result it became a banger, everyone went to talk there, and over time it drained the discussion out from everywhere else. I may be harsh in my views on things and appear to be very intense about issues, but I try and think ahead as to the effects of actions like that, this server is suffering because of a work around done ages ago.
Waiting for it to get better or pass isn't working, it might be a good idea to stop being passive or letting it fester, and handle it, or rather undo the damage.
Kinda like why I got on Ryder so hard a few months ago, I saw current day thread Op wars and them going full scale shitter mode
Pineapples09-Oct-21 04:07 AM
Well, if you guys wanna do something about it then I'll help out. But I just don't really care much any more. Seems like a problem with the people here more than how the server is setup/run. Honestly about ready to just demod myself and ignore the server most of the time and pop in if I happen to see something that actually interests me.
The days when most of the coomers kept their shit to themselves 90% of the time are long gone and now you literally can't have 5 minutes of conversation without them flirting throughout the whole thing.
Dal29009-Oct-21 04:14 AM
I want to see a /vrg/ people give a shit about again, much like shitposters who end up being one idiot, the people issue is pushed by individuals, if we at least curve the squatters people nonstop pushing cum as the server's subject will fizzle out, rerailing is totally possible if not fixed by deletion. Things won't get any better cruising, other end of the issue is vrc friend of a friend stuff but fug, that is a lot to dive into, step down if you want, this place isn't just supposed to be another erp group, imma head to sleep because typing while tipsy is a big mistake if I get heated
Pineapples09-Oct-21 04:14 AM
Let's have a scroll up through general and see what kind of fascinating things people are talking about... Dot asking for sex with Cocnonut(to which he says yes), some links to things with a couple of replies about them, a handful of greetings(with an obligatory mention of sex), a few images of things that start zero conversation, a brief discussion of NFTs, some talk about VRC stuff with people calling each other gay and bottoms, Dot asking someone for sex, you talking about your hotel wifi(again, no conversation comes of it), then finally an active conversation about video games.
Azuth09-Oct-21 04:15 AM
no matter what it's not an issue that's gonna be solved in a single night
Dal29009-Oct-21 04:16 AM
Hey hitler managed a pretty high number with a mere 42 ovens, it is possible with a little bit of direct resolution, okay last joke of the night goodnight for real
Pineapples09-Oct-21 04:17 AM
G'night. Have a good sleep.
Azuth09-Oct-21 04:18 AM
Take it easy
Black Lily09-Oct-21 04:27 AM
The degeneracy started in 2018 and has been going strong ever since
I don't think there's much anyone can do about it at this point
It certainly didn't start with the creation of #nsfw-chat
Brainy09-Oct-21 04:29 AM
Major platforms like Twitch have entire teams devoted to trying to solve the problem you guys are trying to solve. It's really difficult to change the "culture" of a community that got to where it is organically. The best you can do is try to cultivate a different atmosphere with different events like has been suggested and try to direct discourse away from what you do not want it to be. But all of that takes considerable effort and is easier said than done.
I also agree that if we were to impose anything in the way of rules strongly discouraging behavior, it would be received really badly, like Pineapples said.
It's the sort of thing we could only change through encouraging other focuses / directions of energies.
Which is hard to do because coomer energy is big dick energy
Dal29009-Oct-21 04:30 AM
FFFFFF OKay quick phone chatting
Black Lily
It certainly didn't start with the creation of #nsfw-chat
Dal29009-Oct-21 04:31 AM
It pushed the discords, specifically the discords coomer centeredness down the staircase
Vrc influence is too big to get into
Dal290
FFFFFF OKay quick phone chatting
Pineapples09-Oct-21 04:35 AM
One hour later...
Black Lily09-Oct-21 04:36 AM
There's also the influence of /xivg/ and /vrlg/
Brainy
I also agree that if we were to impose anything in the way of rules strongly discouraging behavior, it would be received really badly, like Pineapples said.
Dal29009-Oct-21 04:36 AM
The channel was created in the first place to impose get gay shit out of the channels, still baffling that it inverted and pushed the server into it. Best solution that involves no flat out deletion involves punting the folks with no interest in VR spamming porn all day.
Brainy
It's the sort of thing we could only change through encouraging other focuses / directions of energies.
Pineapples09-Oct-21 04:37 AM
That requires people stirring other conversations all day every day. If you look through #general you can see people bringing up subjects, talking about their day, posting links to interesting stuff... and mostly nothing comes of it. Either no one responds or there are a handful of messages before someone starts calling someone else a bottom because of any or no reason. Too many people just aren't here to have a normal conversation.
Pineapples
That requires people stirring other conversations all day every day. If you look through #general you can see people bringing up subjects, talking about their day, posting links to interesting stuff... and mostly nothing comes of it. Either no one responds or there are a handful of messages before someone starts calling someone else a bottom because of any or no reason. Too many people just aren't here to have a normal conversation.
Brainy09-Oct-21 04:38 AM
All too true
Azuth09-Oct-21 04:40 AM
People like fucking no matter what reality you're in, and it's normal anywhere to have some level of flirting behind closed doors and in DMs. The problem is that half the community sees all of /vrg/ as behind closed doors
ExecutiveJackbotBOT09-Oct-21 04:41 AM
Das racist... wait no it's not
Brainy09-Oct-21 04:41 AM
I feel like part of it is the culture of the meetups too. Not everyone is at them to hookup like Moub. There are plenty of people there just to chat and socialize or participate in events.
But that also means people gravitating or sticking to their own cliques and by extension their fringecords.
Dal29009-Oct-21 04:42 AM
Those people are feeling pushed out of the discord right now too
Dal290
Those people are feeling pushed out of the discord right now too
Brainy09-Oct-21 04:42 AM
That's my impression too
Azuth09-Oct-21 04:43 AM
honestly, considering /vrg/ is now too big for all of us to fit in a single instance or group photo
we may soon be too big for a single unified discord to make sense
let the coomers have vrd and vrgcuddling
have a server for vrc events, another for vr game lobbies and discussion
workshop is already it's own thing
Brainy09-Oct-21 04:45 AM
That's not a bad idea
Azuth
let the coomers have vrd and vrgcuddling
Dal29009-Oct-21 04:46 AM
That's my view on it, people are afraid of it but like we talked about with the audition stuff earlier do we need to be concerned with a filter of sorts. We just played Factorio and asked, do we mod to keep people interested for five minutes or mod for autistic fucks to dump 200+ hours
Basically should we fear losing people whose sole interest in this server is nsfw chat
Azuth09-Oct-21 04:48 AM
I think if we lose them, there's FOMO and butthurt because this is still "the main vrg discord"
but if we split the servers entirely, then nobody has to see shit they don't want
one for VR only discussion, one for the /vrg/ community but is focused on flat games
Black Lily09-Oct-21 04:50 AM
Vr only discussion is what the thread is for
Dal29009-Oct-21 04:50 AM
Idk if we need to split that much
Azuth09-Oct-21 04:50 AM
like I personally don't play factorio or hunt or any of the games everyone in vc plays
good point lily
Guno09-Oct-21 04:50 AM
yeah
VR games is moreso for meets than discussing too in depth
the channel that is(edited)
Black Lily09-Oct-21 04:51 AM
I've thought for a long time what if people want something like #happening or #guns they should go to the appropriate boards instead of asking for it in a /vg/ discord
Azuth09-Oct-21 04:52 AM
people want to talk about those subjects with their friends they've made in this community
Guno09-Oct-21 04:52 AM
Yeah, thats the real point of this cord
a meeting ground for talking about "things" with people interested in VR
its inherintly gonna have a lot of crossover in different boards
Black Lily09-Oct-21 04:53 AM
Yes I understand that but we get to the point where people use the discord as a substitute rather than an addition(edited)
Dal29009-Oct-21 04:53 AM
Substitute or complete relience is part of it
Guno09-Oct-21 04:53 AM
True
4chan wise I've always mostly just been a /v/ guy, but flatgames could never replace /v/ :^)
nobody can match that retardation
as an individual, anwyays
Azuth09-Oct-21 04:55 AM
but to lily's point, should an "official" /vrg/ discord host those discussions
or are we better off splitting into unofficial community servers
Black Lily09-Oct-21 04:55 AM
If the community wants it then we should
Guno09-Oct-21 04:55 AM
At the very least, some trimming may be a good idea, maybe some sections that arent used as much / can bleed back into general
stuff like guns, automotive, and cute animals are stuff that could easily appear in general, arent they?
for example
so long as its not just image spam
but maybe some people use it for that
Dal29009-Oct-21 04:58 AM
Part of them, community wants it but as we discussed, nsfw chat is an example of negative influence stuff. Off topic channels and coomer stuff in abundance attracts squatters and derails the point, this is /vrg/'s server.
Black Lily
If the community wants it then we should
Azuth09-Oct-21 04:59 AM
while I agree in general, this loops back to the original coomer issue
the community as a whole loves #nsfw-chat
Black Lily09-Oct-21 04:59 AM
Personally I think what the community wants is usually more important than what I want
It's not just loved by coomers though
People originally liked it because it was basically unmoderated
Pineapples09-Oct-21 05:00 AM
Remember ages ago when we had the vote and the majority of people didn't want to see gay shit all day? Now look at where everyone talks. The entire community has changed.
Black Lily
Personally I think what the community wants is usually more important than what I want
Dal29009-Oct-21 05:01 AM
I try and factor in is that fucking stupid and will more problems or future issues arise because of it too.
Black Lily09-Oct-21 05:01 AM
Yes
Dal29009-Oct-21 05:02 AM
Lil timmy wants dessert for every meal, imagine giving him that for 3 years
Black Lily09-Oct-21 05:02 AM
That's why we have people with multiple perspectives and It's not just me as the only mod
Dal29009-Oct-21 05:03 AM
We are collectively deciding what meals to give timmy
How terrifying
Black Lily09-Oct-21 05:04 AM
I vote timmy gets canned lasagna
Dal29009-Oct-21 05:04 AM
What if we give him salami :yes:
Pineapples
Remember ages ago when we had the vote and the majority of people didn't want to see gay shit all day? Now look at where everyone talks. The entire community has changed.
Dal29009-Oct-21 05:08 AM
If enough push happens it changes social acceptance and all that. Some of the worst walls of shit posting I have seen in the thread I later hear from some idiot talking to much in the meets to be one person, maybe a friend too.
If people think murder is cool they'll jump on board
Anyhoo imma sleep for real %100 now goodnight for the last time
Azuth09-Oct-21 05:12 AM
night
Krial09-Oct-21 05:23 AM
I will say force people to not flirt and shit, and you’ll see the discord immediately die
To be fair so long as it’s kept in nsfw chat. It’s technically not breaking rules.
Krial
I will say force people to not flirt and shit, and you’ll see the discord immediately die
Pineapples09-Oct-21 05:28 AM
Exactly. Most active people just can't hold a conversation for long without it. Didn't used to be that way.
Pineapples
Well, if you guys wanna do something about it then I'll help out. But I just don't really care much any more. Seems like a problem with the people here more than how the server is setup/run. Honestly about ready to just demod myself and ignore the server most of the time and pop in if I happen to see something that actually interests me.
June09-Oct-21 05:53 AM
this, I've been thinking about a lot
I set out to create lavender to give the community something to do, so they wouldnt just resort to fucking each other 24/7
Pineapples09-Oct-21 05:53 AM
June09-Oct-21 05:53 AM
I need to get back focused on it
so I'm thinking its time for a break again
cant leave because of the damn bot though
Pineapples09-Oct-21 05:58 AM
Could always just drag the server to the bottom of your list and ignore it for a while. No need to completely leave.
June09-Oct-21 05:58 AM
gonna have to, already set it to muted fually(edited)
Distoibed09-Oct-21 05:58 AM
there is a big mental difference between leaving it completely and putting it away I think
June09-Oct-21 06:13 AM
alright its done
Guno09-Oct-21 06:13 AM
anything not in the non-scrolled section of my discord tab i have trouble remembering exists
June09-Oct-21 06:13 AM
buried all vrg servers again(edited)
Guno09-Oct-21 06:13 AM
so it helps a lot
lol
Black Lily09-Oct-21 09:43 AM
Pretty sure kai-chan is underage
@Distoibed
Distoibed09-Oct-21 09:46 AM
lmao what
Black Lily09-Oct-21 09:47 AM
We kicked them fore being underage already
Well that was from rydercord
Distoibed09-Oct-21 09:48 AM
he says he's twenny
Black Lily09-Oct-21 09:49 AM
@#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3 is the one that called them out for being underage
I don't know for sure
Idk maybe they turned 20 in four months
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<309-Oct-21 12:28 PM
I still think that are most likeely a child but its up to you
Last time we asked there age it was 40
And they were sticking by it
But they sound and act like someone who is 14-15
Distoibed09-Oct-21 12:39 PM
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
we still hold the "power"to kick anybody we don't like
Brainy09-Oct-21 05:48 PM
I think you made the right call
./a.out10-Oct-21 01:24 AM
I think its probably better to air on the side of caution and not let them in but eh, just my thoughts(edited)
Black Lily10-Oct-21 01:27 AM
Too late
We'll see if they slip up
Usually the only people that make something from mirai nikki their pfp are 13 to 16
Grommet10-Oct-21 05:30 PM
sorry boys, i've been working so much
hard to keep up. im still moderating the food channel at the very least
Krial10-Oct-21 05:38 PM
Bro you fine lol
This server is low maintenance
Stannic10-Oct-21 10:26 PM
ye no need to do much lmao
Dal29011-Oct-21 02:51 AM
I bopped erixx from my server, they were beyond sussy on underage stuff, they sound like 12 and reek of underage.
Not sure if that bleeds here, no definitive proofs but I am done fucking around with they may be underage around /vrg/
They offered to show an ID so that makes me more concerned
Was sent this too so hey ladies and gentlemen we got em
I was literally talking about there being some kid in here yesterday
In #feedback
Mumu from NYC11-Oct-21 03:29 AM
i was actually thinking about this, there should be times where it would be appropriate to be show a censored id but also same time it shouldn't really be needed
although there is the rare time third parties are being genuinely malicious and just fuck with you just to make sure you don't get to join things
Black Lily11-Oct-21 03:31 AM
Distoibed11-Oct-21 03:31 AM
too late to change
+ she uses tda
Black Lily11-Oct-21 03:31 AM
Johnny apparently knows them might have been a fucky wucky
I'm not above admitting I'm wrong
Dal29011-Oct-21 03:32 AM
I don't buy it, they joined the call plenty of times, that is a mighty underage sounding voice
Black Lily11-Oct-21 03:32 AM
>girl
Dal29011-Oct-21 03:32 AM
Plus they offered to show an ID and we know how that went
Black Lily11-Oct-21 03:33 AM
Yeah anyone willing to show id is suspicious as hell
Dal29011-Oct-21 03:33 AM
There are lots of underaged drifters in vrc who use fake ids and lie everywhere else in erp communities
Distoibed11-Oct-21 03:33 AM
luckily this is just an inner circle and we don't need to act official or professional
+ >she is always welcome (rather not) to join the meetups
Black Lily11-Oct-21 03:34 AM
Well not exactly
If somone is outed as being underage here it gets around the entire community
Distoibed11-Oct-21 03:35 AM
it was more that we don't need to let anybody in who wants in
Dal29011-Oct-21 03:36 AM
They didn't add many people in /vrg/, most went around to karoke, liked singing korean songs and junk
Plus if I am being honest, I remember the hebecca thing and others, certain people were very against the idea of banning underaged
Black Lily11-Oct-21 03:40 AM
I don't remember that shit too well
I just hate children
Dal29011-Oct-21 03:42 AM
I hate children bleeding into /vrg/ because too many VRC erp communities allow kids
Don't mind them, just not in this kind of environment
Black Lily11-Oct-21 03:43 AM
I just don't like them
They have too much free time and usually spend it causing drama
Dal29011-Oct-21 03:44 AM
In general I have watched entire online communities rattle because they let in kids and they create shitstorms
Black Lily11-Oct-21 03:45 AM
I've seen it far too many times
Jason11-Oct-21 03:58 AM
i mean how else are you going to prove your age other than id
Dal29011-Oct-21 04:00 AM
Picture of you with your parents with cigarettes' or alcohol
if that actually is a girl its an unfortunate girl
tbf to that the twitter is 3 years old
could have just forgot
Dal29011-Oct-21 04:04 AM
You can undo it if you wish, only thing I can confirm is they visually look older, they act 12 regardless so I am keeping them out on my end
not in this server in mine for clarification
ExecutiveJackbotBOT11-Oct-21 04:05 AM
Das racist... wait no it's not
Jason11-Oct-21 04:05 AM
but im merely a janny
Dal29011-Oct-21 04:05 AM
I had not seen this twitter, I got complaints from people every time they showed up too, sounded underage and acted it
That's icing on the cake holy heck this twitter is terrible
Jason
but im merely a janny
Black Lily11-Oct-21 04:27 AM
Your opinion is equally to a mod you just don't have as many perms
I'm going to unban them because I don't like banning someone on false information
Jason11-Oct-21 04:39 AM
i do hope they are least relatively cool and don't report the first racist thing they see
Dal29011-Oct-21 04:41 AM
They are mostly well managed in terms of blending in, didn't notice too much out of place outside of bad taste
They did mention going to 4chan when they were younger, ran into pedos and stuff, their timeline is so tight to 15-18-19 shit is confusing
Some wow guild or something
Krial11-Oct-21 04:44 AM
If they aren’t underage and are just annoying leave em alone imo.
We don’t and shouldn’t ban because some people find them annoying
Dal29011-Oct-21 04:45 AM
I tend to disagree, I have watched many internet environments dry up because people hold their guns to inclusion for inclusions sake
In this case, them being confused about their timeline was very concerning, I guess past 15 their life has just been a blur of anime and spaghetti
Black Lily11-Oct-21 04:47 AM
I don't care that much issue is already settled
However if they show back I'm on the side of not letting them in
Dal29011-Oct-21 04:51 AM
Complex issue, we talked on this before about the curation and all that, good bad eh. I don't think they will have pleasant interactions, kind of reminds me of kimispice back when she joined and left.
Black Lily11-Oct-21 04:53 AM
Doesn't she still come around sometimes
Also Apologies
Dal29011-Oct-21 04:54 AM
Yeah in vrc, they are involved in the dragonball fandom, old friend of mine is friends with her too
Interesting bunch, lot of content and stuff created in vrc centered around dragon ball, lets people shill their OC's so its healthy and alive
Black Lily11-Oct-21 04:55 AM
Fandoms are cringe though
Dal29011-Oct-21 04:56 AM
I am pretty cringe for liking homestuck and other things like it
Black Lily11-Oct-21 04:56 AM
Yes
Dal29011-Oct-21 04:57 AM
Its just another excuse to create a community around, got the good and the bad
Black Lily11-Oct-21 04:57 AM
Obsessing about one specific show or game is cringe
I prefer variety
Dal29011-Oct-21 04:57 AM
Modern day fandoms are ruined by the LGBT elements jammed into them simple as
Black Lily11-Oct-21 04:58 AM
And children
Have you ever been to a public undertale world?
Dal29011-Oct-21 04:59 AM
Yeah mpreg sans is pretty peak terrible
Distoibed11-Oct-21 08:06 AM
@Black Lily reddit emote next to role when?
Black Lily11-Oct-21 08:07 AM
Next to what role
Distoibed11-Oct-21 08:07 AM
idk honestly
furniture
Mumu from NYC11-Oct-21 09:19 AM
Vrg
Krial11-Oct-21 09:49 AM
Next to vrg
Yeah
100%
Do it
Distoibed11-Oct-21 09:53 AM
@Krial Done
Black Lily11-Oct-21 10:21 AM
I might add it to the mod role
Or maybe jannie
June11-Oct-21 10:21 AM
Both
Do Reddit for janies
And Reddit gold for mod
Distoibed11-Oct-21 10:28 AM
Yes
@Black Lily go ahead
Black Lily11-Oct-21 10:28 AM
Perhaps when I awaken
Krial11-Oct-21 10:33 AM
Amazing.
Yeah make it jannie or mod or some shit
ExecutiveJackbotBOT11-Oct-21 10:34 AM
Das racist... wait no it's not
Krial11-Oct-21 10:34 AM
Distoibed11-Oct-21 12:08 PM
wanted to give mods the reddit logo
but no permissione
ExecutiveJackbotBOT11-Oct-21 12:10 PM
Das racist... wait no it's not
Stannic11-Oct-21 03:48 PM
Give time out the pink wojack
Dal290
They offered to show an ID so that makes me more concerned
Brainy11-Oct-21 05:04 PM
Just FYI, it's very common for underage to submit a parent's government ID.
If they're saying they're in their 40s/50s when they sound like a tween over text and voice, it's very likely the ID belongs to a parent.
Brainy
Just FYI, it's very common for underage to submit a parent's government ID.
If they're saying they're in their 40s/50s when they sound like a tween over text and voice, it's very likely the ID belongs to a parent.
Dal29011-Oct-21 05:05 PM
Yeah in vrc in particular erp and dance communities started asking for IDs so it caught on to start offering first.
Brainy11-Oct-21 05:11 PM
Someone I know works CS at a major social media platform. Their entire job is reviewing ban appeals relating to underage.
50% of the ones they get (that aren't related to "I'm 12 and what is this" jokes) are a kid submitting their parent's ID.
40% are the parent submitting their own ID trying to get little Timmy unbanned so he can go back to iPad Daycare. (edited)
Parents just give zero fucks these days.
Krial11-Oct-21 06:07 PM
@Distoibed
What do
@Black Lily are you alive
I know your vote was no
Distoibed11-Oct-21 06:07 PM
Krial11-Oct-21 06:08 PM
Aight
Krial
@Black Lily are you alive
Black Lily11-Oct-21 06:09 PM
Hello
Krial11-Oct-21 06:09 PM
Your friend back
N welcome
Black Lily11-Oct-21 06:09 PM
Icky
Up to you guys
I don't care that much
Krial11-Oct-21 06:11 PM
Let me look through their posts
Distoibed11-Oct-21 06:11 PM
she uses tda
Krial11-Oct-21 06:12 PM
She didn’t even post beforehand
Distoibed11-Oct-21 06:12 PM
she was banned
Krial11-Oct-21 06:12 PM
Prolly a group chaser
Distoibed11-Oct-21 06:12 PM
so all posts gone whoopsie
Krial11-Oct-21 06:12 PM
Yeah but you can see their posts before
Nope
Look at sept 9th
Distoibed11-Oct-21 06:12 PM
but what I heard from @Dal290 , she barely did anything and either lurks here or "wants in"
Krial11-Oct-21 06:12 PM
That’s what it looks like
Wanna just put it to #voting
That’d be funny
And kinda what it’s for
Distoibed11-Oct-21 06:13 PM
be sure to mention that she uses TDA
Black Lily11-Oct-21 06:15 PM
I didn't delete any posts
They weren't active since September
Krial11-Oct-21 06:16 PM
Voting will say no
But it’ll be funny.
Distoibed11-Oct-21 06:18 PM
supposedly from what I've seen (and heard)
she collects groups but posts in none
Black Lily11-Oct-21 06:21 PM
Seems like it
Krial11-Oct-21 06:22 PM
Dirty clout chasing egirl
The exact kind of people we should nail to a fucking cross
Distoibed11-Oct-21 06:29 PM
yeah
just ban her lmao
I wouldn't have let her in even if #voting wanetd her in
Krial11-Oct-21 06:31 PM
Yeah but this will make the users laugh
Let em have fun
Krial11-Oct-21 06:47 PM
Emisune feelings hurt. Maybe garbagecat doesn’t mind as much.
Distoibed11-Oct-21 06:48 PM
?
Krial11-Oct-21 06:50 PM
His trash alt.
Unironically.
Black Lily11-Oct-21 06:50 PM
That's a shitty name
People know he lewds why even make an alt for it
Krial11-Oct-21 06:51 PM
I figured fucking with a femoid might bring out a simp or two
Dal29011-Oct-21 06:56 PM
I hate the simp attitude, shit feels like people are putting on their white knight armor to defend a maiden's honor, even if they aren't female sometimes like dexwhatever
Black Lily11-Oct-21 06:57 PM
Like Random Hero
1
Dal29011-Oct-21 07:01 PM
Hey they are a legitimate woman respect their pronouns
Krial11-Oct-21 07:19 PM
Eva is fucking with her in dm’s
Lmao(edited)
Black Lily11-Oct-21 07:21 PM
What's he doing
Krial11-Oct-21 07:25 PM
Sending her the usual bullshit
Swear to god I love this man
Black Lily11-Oct-21 07:30 PM
I have given mod gold
Brainy11-Oct-21 08:12 PM
Eric with a vagina
Goddammit lmaooo
I'm not gonna lie, I have never seen this person at a meetup ever. Anything I should know about them before voting?
Also never really noticed them on the Discord either (although checking their post history now).
❌ 30
I feel bad I'll vote yes.
If we are 100% certain they are of age, which it's sounding like we are?
Dal29011-Oct-21 08:17 PM
I got complaints about them every single time they dropped by shop
Listened to five people drop the call in one go because they joined
Very, outgoing
Brainy11-Oct-21 08:17 PM
What were they doing in shop? That made people drop?(edited)
Dal29011-Oct-21 08:18 PM
Very winning personality
Imagine listening to somebody describe their love of cats for 20 minutes straight(edited)
Brainy11-Oct-21 08:19 PM
I mean... is there any difference between that and the people who describe their love of cock for 20 minutes straight?
I'm just trying to be devil's advocate here. Basically if we are 500% sure she's not underage, would we have banned / gated her for any other reason?
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<311-Oct-21 08:21 PM
Annoying, TDA, Twitch streamer, maybe underage idky this a debate
Brainy11-Oct-21 08:21 PM
Wait are we still uncertain whether she is underage?
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<311-Oct-21 08:21 PM
nothing wrong with gatekeeping people that are a problem
Dal29011-Oct-21 08:21 PM
They continue to push out weird proof, from what I heard they tweeted about exiting their teens recently
Brainy11-Oct-21 08:21 PM
I only scanned through the chat earlier, but it sounded like Black Lily and others confirmed they are over 18 (like 19)?
Black Lily11-Oct-21 08:22 PM
Even if they not underage they clearly don't belong
Dal29011-Oct-21 08:22 PM
Certainly look of age
Black Lily11-Oct-21 08:22 PM
Posting selfies in #welcome
Brainy11-Oct-21 08:22 PM
I can't tell because I've never interacted with them ever. I don't even see any chat history on here from them prior to September.
Their avatar looks like a selfie too lol
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<311-Oct-21 08:23 PM
if they dont fit they dont need to be here
Brainy11-Oct-21 08:23 PM
Now that I look at their Twitter
How were they in here before?
Black Lily11-Oct-21 08:24 PM
>she/they
Brainy11-Oct-21 08:24 PM
Have they even been to a meetup?
Black Lily11-Oct-21 08:24 PM
I don't think they had twitter linked before(edited)
Brainy11-Oct-21 08:25 PM
Honestly they seem more like a clout chaser just looking over everything
Guessing they're trying to grow on Twitch?
Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.
Krial11-Oct-21 08:26 PM
No
That’s someone else
This person is an actual random.
Dal29011-Oct-21 08:26 PM
THERE IS ANOTHER
1
FUCK I HATE TRASH
Krial11-Oct-21 08:26 PM
Which is infinitely more based than this creature.
Nah this bitch is just a clout chaser
Utterly forgettable.
Brainy11-Oct-21 08:27 PM
Yeah I think she's just trying to use this place to grow her reach and her Twitch
Krial11-Oct-21 08:27 PM
Yep
Brainy11-Oct-21 08:28 PM
Are we able to gate based on that? If it's clout chasing?
If we aren't convinced she's here to meaningfully participate with the community?
Krial11-Oct-21 08:28 PM
Yep
We can technically gate over whatever we want really
Brainy11-Oct-21 08:28 PM
Then yeah my vote is no just from the Discord history on here even...
Black Lily11-Oct-21 08:28 PM
I'll gate based on pronouns in bio alone
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<311-Oct-21 08:29 PM
letting them in doesnt benefit the server in anyway
Brainy11-Oct-21 08:29 PM
I gate based on that just in life
Krial11-Oct-21 08:30 PM
Rainy are you brainy in game btw
Or am I a schizo
Brainy11-Oct-21 08:31 PM
I wanted to give them a chance but then this:
Just looking for any excuse to post selfie assuming everyone here thirsty
Krial
Or am I a schizo
Brainy11-Oct-21 08:31 PM
Yep that's me and I'm the schizo
Krial11-Oct-21 08:32 PM
Oh based
I waved at you Friday
Brainy11-Oct-21 08:32 PM
I should probably change my name back to Brainy on here.
Krial11-Oct-21 08:32 PM
Yeah I would
Brainy11-Oct-21 08:32 PM
I did too and now I just realized you probably had no idea who I was
is she one of those ones that looks for orbiters like twitch tv thots or what
Black Lily11-Oct-21 09:13 PM
A lot of women do that on the internet
Krial11-Oct-21 09:14 PM
99% of women*
Well maybe 95*
Stannic11-Oct-21 09:15 PM
Krial11-Oct-21 09:17 PM
@mod
Black Lily11-Oct-21 09:18 PM
I did it
Krial11-Oct-21 09:18 PM
Oh nvm
Black Lily11-Oct-21 09:18 PM
Yes
You can write what you want for it in #actions
Krial11-Oct-21 09:38 PM
Ngl i kind of want the retard coliseum
Just dump two people in arguing
Lol
Stannic
is she one of those ones that looks for orbiters like twitch tv thots or what
Brainy11-Oct-21 09:49 PM
Yeah as in she gives off strong vibes of being here just to grow a following around her socials
Stannic11-Oct-21 10:02 PM
June12-Oct-21 05:20 AM
Cringe
Brainy12-Oct-21 05:59 AM
The banning of IRL pics in nsfw was a joke right?
Or are we actually removing those now?
Jason12-Oct-21 06:47 AM
it got shot down in parliament
1
Brainy
Or are we actually removing those now?
Black Lily12-Oct-21 06:48 AM
Invalidum didn't like all the cute boys(edited)
/u/GemManBad12-Oct-21 11:04 AM
its true
Distoibed12-Oct-21 11:30 AM
Leaking selfies is /soc/ anyways
Who would do that
Mumu from NYC12-Oct-21 03:50 PM
i want anime girls
not irl
Guno12-Oct-21 07:46 PM
can'tdelete orb's meme post in flat games, janni only have image removal perms?
or an issue with the memepost?
Krial12-Oct-21 07:57 PM
Nah
It’s jus frost games
The games category
I can prolly fix maybe
One sec
Nah only asylum can
@🔇
Jannies can’t delete shit in the games category
🔇12-Oct-21 08:00 PM
fixed
Krial12-Oct-21 08:00 PM
Ty
And baleeted
I already cleared out all the other channels too
1
Black Lily13-Oct-21 07:08 AM
Poor newfag
Although I am on the side of kicking manami
Pineapples13-Oct-21 07:33 AM
I don't really see much reason to, though I never see him around.
Brainy13-Oct-21 07:41 AM
Grandfathered in
Black Lily13-Oct-21 07:49 AM
Manami has zero interest in vr
He's only here because people degrade him
Distoibed13-Oct-21 08:05 AM
Lore says manami is pisspoor
Black Lily13-Oct-21 08:06 AM
Even if he had money for vr he wouldn't buy it
Pineapples13-Oct-21 08:12 AM
Yeah, as far as I know he only joined us for VRC. Was that from the VRC threads on /v/ back in the day, or did he join later?
Black Lily13-Oct-21 08:13 AM
He's been around since early 2018
I don't remember exactly when
Brainy13-Oct-21 08:21 AM
If they've been here that long and aren't causing any problems I don't see the harm in letting them stay
Then again it looks like all their posts are in NSFW lol
Black Lily13-Oct-21 08:22 AM
But would there be any harm in kicking them
Distoibed13-Oct-21 08:23 AM
Mascot/Social stuff
I'd hate to see him go, but hé fills the criteria of a Guy we would kick
Brainy13-Oct-21 08:23 AM
Do they contribute meaningfully anywhere outside of NSFW? That's all I see from them. But I'm missing out on historical context here since the server was recently nuked.
As in do they participate in voice or anything?
Black Lily13-Oct-21 08:24 AM
No they're a mute desktopper
tts mute
Brainy13-Oct-21 08:24 AM
Do they at least attend meetups as a desktopper?
Pineapples13-Oct-21 08:24 AM
He's always seemed harmless to me. Never seen him bother anyone at all.
Black Lily13-Oct-21 08:25 AM
They get on vrchat so they can get off on someone degrading them for being a desktopper
Pineapples13-Oct-21 08:25 AM
He used to quite often. Though it was basically just going up to people with various lewd avatars.
And of course doing some stuff with people in private, though I don't know any details about that.
Brainy13-Oct-21 08:25 AM
Yeah I'd hate to kick someone who has been here this long if they're contributing in any way to the community. But without any historical context I can see why it might cheese people off enough to complain about if their only interaction here is within NSFW.
Pineapples13-Oct-21 08:26 AM
I wouldn't say he contributes anything, but he's never seemed to be any problem.
Black Lily13-Oct-21 08:26 AM
They don't contribute whatsoever
Brainy13-Oct-21 08:28 AM
I guess it comes down to if we feel strongly enough about weeding out people who retroactively fit the criteria of what we might gate in the absence of VR or meaningful interaction?
I'm sure he's not the only person here who only contributes to NSFW and occasionally attends meetups
Only thing is him having no VR from the sound of it
Pineapples13-Oct-21 08:31 AM
Yeah, I can understand kicking him for not having VR and not even really talking with people(that I'm aware of), but I've never known him to be any trouble.
Brainy13-Oct-21 08:32 AM
My attitude generally is if they're not causing any trouble there's no reason to look too deeply into them being trouble. But I understand if you guys feel like it's a matter of fairness on upholding the VR rule
Pineapples13-Oct-21 08:33 AM
Yeah, that's how I always feel as well. If they're an issue then sure we can look into whether they're really here to be part of the community, have VR or an interest in it, etc.. Otherwise I don't see all that much of a need.
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And it just generally feels shitty to me to kick someone out with zero warning and no particular reason other than it came to mind.
Brainy13-Oct-21 08:38 AM
Yeah I feel like in this case the kick would essentially be for posting shitty porn
Which quite frankly many more people besides Manami are guilty of doing lol
I'd rather see XIV adult mods posted in there than twining or whatever we were seeing people meme last week lmao
I forget the name of it
Pineapples13-Oct-21 08:39 AM
Yeah, the porn channel used to be utterly flooded with low quality shit all the time. And I don't mean stuff I don't like, just stuff that's so poorly drawn or uninteresting that I don't see why anyone would bother saving it, let alone going and sharing it.
Brainy13-Oct-21 08:40 AM
Yeah exactly and sometimes people post stuff solely for the sake of discussion too
Stannic13-Oct-21 09:05 AM
Tell white lily to block them and they don’t have to see the xiv awful low quality screenshots
As awful as those xiv screenshots are they can easily bot see it by blocking manami
At least it’s not actual gay femboy shit that neo kept spamming
Pineapples13-Oct-21 09:09 AM
I assume other people do actually like that, though. The only problem(and that's really too strong a word in this case I think) is that probably no one else cares about it except Manami.
Stannic13-Oct-21 09:11 AM
Yeah there are some people who loves it but similar to manami telling them to block them or just tune out of nsfw pics will avoid that kinda thing
Distoibed13-Oct-21 09:15 AM
@Stannic good luck explaining the benefits of using the block button
Distoibed
@Stannic good luck explaining the benefits of using the block button
Stannic13-Oct-21 09:16 AM
Those people deserve their emotional outbursts then
Black Lily13-Oct-21 09:19 AM
Blocking is cringe
Stannic13-Oct-21 09:24 AM
It’s there for a reason if they don’t want to deal with something
Black Lily
Blocking is cringe
Distoibed13-Oct-21 09:27 AM
Its funnier to see people who are in need of it being told to use it, but exclaim that they won't
Pineapples13-Oct-21 09:27 AM
He did already say he was just going to block him.
ExecutiveJackbotBOT13-Oct-21 03:35 PM
I'm crying RN
Krial13-Oct-21 04:59 PM
Manami literally doesn’t do anything lol
He just sits there
No reason to kick someone who’s been around since 2018 IMO
Stannic13-Oct-21 05:41 PM
yeah all they did was post pics of their degeneracy in xiv
if they can't handle the barrage of shit being posted in nsfw-pics then go to a porn server that has sections dedicated to porn and sectioning them out
/u/GemManBad13-Oct-21 05:41 PM
degens seething at other degens
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Krial13-Oct-21 05:41 PM
/u/GemManBad13-Oct-21 05:42 PM
ill stoke those flames any day
Stannic13-Oct-21 05:42 PM
didn't you hush neo
for posting too many irl gay pron
/u/GemManBad13-Oct-21 05:42 PM
i did
now i have the gays kryptonite
another gay
Stannic13-Oct-21 05:43 PM
wot
/u/GemManBad13-Oct-21 05:43 PM
the enemy of my enemy is my friend
Stannic13-Oct-21 05:43 PM
oh ogey
makes it easier to browse and deleet for me
Brainy13-Oct-21 08:19 PM
It's kind of funny that this boils down to wanting a person banned over their choice in porn
That is easy enough to block, as others already pointed out lol
Azuth13-Oct-21 08:59 PM
people need to stop liking things I don't like
Krial13-Oct-21 09:45 PM
I bapped white lily
In messages
Lol
We close
Also @Black Lily I drank with Carl all night last night
Krial
Also @Black Lily I drank with Carl all night last night
Black Lily13-Oct-21 09:48 PM
Who's Carl?
Krial13-Oct-21 09:56 PM
Stfu
Me carl kern and mansouri drank all night
It was based
Black Lily13-Oct-21 09:57 PM
Mansouri is cool
Krial13-Oct-21 09:57 PM
Yeah i love him
Wish he hung out more but i get why he doesnt
Brainy13-Oct-21 09:57 PM
Did Carl ever calm down and come back, or is he still gone?
Krial13-Oct-21 09:58 PM
He says he left because he knew he was having a MetLife
Brainy13-Oct-21 09:58 PM
I talk to him from time to time on Discord
Krial13-Oct-21 09:58 PM
Meltie**
And didnt wanna make it worse
And doesnt wanna come back
Brainy13-Oct-21 09:58 PM
Ah that's usually how he works
Oh
Except the not coming back part
Krial13-Oct-21 09:58 PM
Well he didnt try to come back the first time
Brainy13-Oct-21 09:58 PM
Krial13-Oct-21 09:58 PM
I invited him back
Brainy13-Oct-21 09:58 PM
Oh yeah I forgot about that
Krial13-Oct-21 09:58 PM
And like 72 people blew meltdowns that i invited him back
Brainy13-Oct-21 09:58 PM
Am I okay to tell him he's welcome to come back, or do you guys really not want to encourage it...?
Krial13-Oct-21 09:58 PM
Lol
I’d say probably not
Give it a while if ever
Brainy13-Oct-21 09:59 PM
Krial13-Oct-21 09:59 PM
Maybe New Years
Brainy13-Oct-21 09:59 PM
Understandable
Krial13-Oct-21 09:59 PM
He did threaten to get a junkie to cut beefs throat lol
Brainy13-Oct-21 09:59 PM
Oh that's not a bad idea
🔇13-Oct-21 09:59 PM
carl's been banned
Krial
He did threaten to get a junkie to cut beefs throat lol
Brainy13-Oct-21 09:59 PM
Krial13-Oct-21 09:59 PM
Yeah i was thinking he got the axe
Brainy13-Oct-21 09:59 PM
Oh he is actually banned from the server?
Black Lily13-Oct-21 10:00 PM
How did you guys already forget
Brainy13-Oct-21 10:00 PM
Yeah I voted there, I just didn't know if it went through.
Krial13-Oct-21 10:00 PM
Lmao me and mumu
Only people
🔇13-Oct-21 10:00 PM
Brainy13-Oct-21 10:00 PM
Because sometimes we vote there and it takes awhile for the final decision / action, or we end up having a discussion here.
Krial13-Oct-21 10:00 PM
Yeah
There’s never really any “ok this is voted on and what we’re doing now”
Brainy13-Oct-21 10:00 PM
So I wasn't entirely sure if we actually pulled the trigger (especially since it sounded from my talks with him that he left on his own again).
Krial13-Oct-21 10:01 PM
Probably should be a follow up edit after mod voting stuff
Just to confirm some shit actually went through
Black Lily13-Oct-21 10:02 PM
If I put up a vote it'll go through as soon as everyone votes or 24 hours pass
Krial13-Oct-21 10:22 PM
It has to be done but
I will miss Carl
Black Lily13-Oct-21 10:26 PM
You'll see him in game dummy
And the thread
Mostly the trash thread where he argues that pedophilia isn't wrong
Krial13-Oct-21 10:37 PM
No one on earth has the ability to shit post in every single channel at the same time quite like carl
Lol
Brainy14-Oct-21 12:04 AM
Yeah I'll miss him too
But I did 100% agree with the ban at the time and reading over the melty again I still do.
Black Lily14-Oct-21 01:05 AM
I won't miss him I'll miss laughing at the people spurging because of him
Azuth14-Oct-21 01:34 AM
I've had good convos with Carl in vrc
but his tism is too much for this server to contain
Krial14-Oct-21 02:05 AM
@Azuth
Make it to where jannies can make stickers
Or can I just not from phone
Azuth14-Oct-21 02:06 AM
no clue
Krial14-Oct-21 02:06 AM
I need a sundowner sticker
Krial
I need a sundowner sticker
Azuth14-Oct-21 02:07 AM
looks like jannies have the perm
Black Lily14-Oct-21 02:07 AM
I'm pretty sure that if you can add emoji you can add stickers
Krial14-Oct-21 02:07 AM
Can’t via mobile then
No sticker section
I’ll do when home
🔇14-Oct-21 04:30 AM
yeah mobile is gimped cant do any of the new features
should just respond to him in welcome with the crop of him saying vrg yucky
Krial14-Oct-21 03:13 PM
@Black Lily@mod so am I just telling pikk to fuck off or what
Cuz I’m fixin to interview em all
Do y’all want me to ask him is he just here tk shit up vrg etc
To+
🔇14-Oct-21 03:14 PM
do whatever ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Distoibed14-Oct-21 03:14 PM
kinda hard to do that (it's easy, but you'll get shit in feedback)
but remember @Krial, it's not a right to be let in here(edited)
Dal29014-Oct-21 03:16 PM
@Krial you missed a bit of time where we had a few people like gondola, nerv, kite and a few others that were jerking each other off to vrg bad and even crashing instances, leaving those kind of bros hanging around instead of giving them the boot at the time they are doing that piles up and people rip at /vrg/ from inside of the discord.
🔇14-Oct-21 03:17 PM
I think I’ll just yeet them. Pretty sure krial is just asking because he can’t.
Krial14-Oct-21 03:17 PM
Well someone should prolly tell em why is my thought
Since we were doing the whole clarity shit
/u/GemManBad14-Oct-21 03:17 PM
you tell them exactly why and they'll do that more
Dal29014-Oct-21 03:18 PM
MAHJONG
🔇14-Oct-21 03:18 PM
Someone else can let them know if they want.
/u/GemManBad14-Oct-21 03:18 PM
if they are bringing in skiddies, dont tell them thats why they got kicked
Stannic14-Oct-21 03:18 PM
YEET YEET YEET YEET
/u/GemManBad
if they are bringing in skiddies, dont tell them thats why they got kicked
Dal29014-Oct-21 03:18 PM
Yee giving them a response is what they want, and they start a game out of the back fourth
Literally silence and action, bit rude, but it works
he now knows he'll get a reaction if he keeps doing it
Jason14-Oct-21 03:56 PM
People said we should tell him why
/u/GemManBad14-Oct-21 03:56 PM
we just said dont
Jason14-Oct-21 03:56 PM
ah shit
🔇14-Oct-21 03:57 PM
Jason can’t read properly. He’s retarded.
Dal29014-Oct-21 03:57 PM
It'll be fine, he will prob be a dummy and just let it go
Jason14-Oct-21 03:57 PM
🔇14-Oct-21 03:57 PM
/u/GemManBad14-Oct-21 03:57 PM
if you have a problem with someone, you just kill them
discuss it here but 9 times out of ten its a bullet and nothing more(edited)
Krial14-Oct-21 04:43 PM
Pikk said he didn’t mind
He messaged me after
Just seemed bummed.
He ain’t gonna retaliate @/u/GemManBad
Dal29014-Oct-21 05:18 PM
Same feelings, don't appreciate the fuck /vrg/ sentiment as that tune has long since gotten annoying to hear from people sitting on the metaphorical couch still
Bonus points on bringing mamamad and streamers to the meets while drunk, don't like that shit either
Black Lily14-Oct-21 05:19 PM
Do you guys like your reddit gold or should I change it to something else
Azuth14-Oct-21 05:42 PM
would prefer something less circlejerky
Azuth
would prefer something less circlejerky
Black Lily14-Oct-21 05:44 PM
I was thinking about another yotsuba
Azuth14-Oct-21 05:44 PM
works for me
Black Lily14-Oct-21 05:46 PM
It's very small
Jason14-Oct-21 05:54 PM
pretty sure that one time the mamamad follower threw obscenely loud ear rape on a video player blew out my right index speaker
Dal290
Same feelings, don't appreciate the fuck /vrg/ sentiment as that tune has long since gotten annoying to hear from people sitting on the metaphorical couch still
Stannic14-Oct-21 08:15 PM
then how did kite get in here when he openly shits on vrg
Stannic
then how did kite get in here when he openly shits on vrg
Dal29014-Oct-21 08:16 PM
Back when him sava and others were jerking off each other about muh evil /vrg/ stuff, he got in before that, he flipflops
Like I was mentioning about the nsfw-chat thing being mostly solvable by biting the bullet and hitting a few squatters who's only interest in this server is boyass
You let in too many skiddie types who don't take their meds, that shit happens
Especially people who hate the place yet want to be in here to shit on everyone
Big quotations on "hate"
Brainy14-Oct-21 08:17 PM
I really hate the people who join just to crash instances
As in I don't see why we even tolerate it
Stannic14-Oct-21 08:18 PM
they hate the place so they crash shit and try to change it so it fits their view of what vrg should be like
Brainy14-Oct-21 08:18 PM
If all you're doing is bitching about this place and crashing meetups
Then you shouldn't be here in my view at all, nor should we be tolerating your bullshit
Stannic14-Oct-21 08:19 PM
that's what splinter groups are for but they want to be the main thing
Brainy14-Oct-21 08:19 PM
My attitude is we shouldn't tolerate them being in here at all
But I'm biased (obviously) lol
Stannic14-Oct-21 08:19 PM
they're on the level of chat hoppers from twitch
they should eat the ban and not be able to interact at all
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Dal29014-Oct-21 08:20 PM
Preaching to choir on that one, I think /vrg/ and people who get in these weird bitter states where they """"""hate""""" /vrg/ should just be seperated rip words(edited)
Krial14-Oct-21 09:27 PM
Meets don’t get crashed though
I can’t think of the last Friday or Saturday that got crashed
The only one that jumps to mind was mamamad
🔇14-Oct-21 09:56 PM
the ilulu meet got crashed the other night
Black Lily14-Oct-21 09:57 PM
Good
Krial14-Oct-21 09:57 PM
Lmfao that’s trash though
Who cares
They can eat shit repeatedly
Oh no the bbc and furry meet got destroyed whatever shall we do
Krial
Lmfao that’s trash though
🔇14-Oct-21 09:59 PM
it wasnt trash it was just a weekday meet
Krial14-Oct-21 09:59 PM
Only pics I saw of that one were in trash
Who even crashed it
🔇14-Oct-21 09:59 PM
thats the hornies that we had leave that was posted in trash
Krial14-Oct-21 10:00 PM
Do u know who nuked it
Lmao Thays not pikk is it
May be lmao
Or a retard
Little bit of both
Black Lily14-Oct-21 10:04 PM
He's both for sure
Dal29014-Oct-21 10:05 PM
He spent too much time going with what he thought others wanted him to say or think
Common problem, gotta soul search and find out what he wants to say, and think
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Stannic14-Oct-21 10:06 PM
he doesn't mean it either
he's a roach
🔇14-Oct-21 10:07 PM
i know he doesnt
its fine
im just giving an example that the meetups do get crashed still
Brainy14-Oct-21 10:40 PM
The 9/11 meet with Onion DJing got crashed multiple times IIRC.
I know it was awhile ago, but thought it might be worth mentioning.
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Brainy14-Oct-21 10:41 PM
Yeah I don't think anyone even had an idea of who was doing it at the time.
Dal29014-Oct-21 10:41 PM
It is more the finding it funny to send mama to us in the first place and continued malicious crap that I have a beef with, that has calmed down but its a long term issue
I try and avoid being extreme shake the entire boat confrontational about that kind of junk but it gets hard to hold back on calling parties super assholes for creating long term cancer
Brainy14-Oct-21 10:42 PM
I just feel like if we do know someone crashes entire instances and they routinely make a habit of it, then we shouldn't be just tolerating it.
Especially if they're deliberately doing it out of resentment towards this community in any way.
I remember finding that so bizarre back when Yuru was doing things lol
Dal29014-Oct-21 10:43 PM
I agree, spoke up about it before and I got a reception of the mixed bag of people going "oh is this a discord problem not our bag" and sensible people saying are you kidding me.
That was actually some of the original tension that lead to me taking up mod back then, people were afraid to pull the trigger on sava/nerv/kite and the others openly harrassing people in this discord
Same resentment leads to today with k3rn and the others finding it hilarious to direct mamamad to the thread and us
Its a juggle, involves a lot of talking and all that, people are afraid to use this discord to try and push stop enabling this kind of work
The way I see it, I see their fear as reasonable, because as mentioned with the whole "do not contact pikk", it could become a game we all have to play with the discord being some kind of powercrap
It is pretty sensible to fear starting that, but I don't see the issue in bapping people who are comfortable ruining events and weekends bringing that kind of noise around
Low chance of fallback at best
Brainy
I know it was awhile ago, but thought it might be worth mentioning.
Krial14-Oct-21 10:48 PM
That’s definitely the 9/11 people.
Cmon now. People leave their meet because it sucks ass, and suddenly wowee the other event gets crashed oh man who could have done this
Dal29014-Oct-21 10:49 PM
If I remember correctly dot mentioned who crashed it, apparently it wasn't even mamamad this time, but some fuckers crashing the thread events because they were salty or something
Case and point, stop dragging skiddies and speds around
Krial15-Oct-21 12:05 PM
@Stannic
Can you interview those retards
Stannic15-Oct-21 12:06 PM
no
Krial15-Oct-21 12:06 PM
I’m busy today
Going to work shut
Shit
Stannic15-Oct-21 12:06 PM
who are these retards
Krial15-Oct-21 12:06 PM
In welcome
Idk
Newfags
They got the digits right
Howd you find us, What boards, what headset, fav vr games, and favorite videogame of all time
Is my go to
Stannic15-Oct-21 12:11 PM
surely
nothing can go wrong
Distoibed15-Oct-21 12:42 PM
I'm not a fan of doing 3 interviews at the same time
cus it's literally "look at what the previous guy said and repeat with a smidge of originality"
Stannic15-Oct-21 12:43 PM
yeah
Distoibed15-Oct-21 12:44 PM
if it were up to me
I'd kick 2 (and notify them) and tell them to join when I'm done with the other one
./a.out15-Oct-21 04:00 PM
Im noticing an increasing amount of people joining this server with "sex!" In there bio. Specifically sex with an exclamation mark
Why tf is this specific line getting more and more common
Fucking saving that and posting it whenever Dot does his usual shit.
Pineapples
Fucking saving that and posting it whenever Dot does his usual shit.
Stannic15-Oct-21 05:34 PM
Distoibed
but that webm in the thread of fusion
/u/GemManBad15-Oct-21 05:42 PM
you got a link? i wanna see for myself(edited)
Distoibed15-Oct-21 05:44 PM
couple treads ago sadly
but imagine fusion saying he had sex with 5 girls
then the guy opposite of him in a gay lisp
claiming he'd give fusion a better time than those 5 girls could ever do
/u/GemManBad15-Oct-21 05:45 PM
well i mainly wanted a name to shame whenever i saw them
Distoibed15-Oct-21 06:55 PM
sorry, but every name in vrc/vrg is forgettable to me unless they leave an impression on me
Jason15-Oct-21 06:55 PM
i have to interact with someone at least a couple of times for me to remember really
god help you if your name is similar to someone else
/u/GemManBad15-Oct-21 08:37 PM
my memory is something awful
Jason
i have to interact with someone at least a couple of times for me to remember really
Krial15-Oct-21 09:00 PM
Please tell me it was jhin
Please fucking tell me
Lmao
Jason15-Oct-21 09:01 PM
naw i dont think i ever confused jhin
i think i confused beef and serg a lot
and for some reason scy and knightchase, that one i dont even know
Distoibed
and some other guy (idk his name) saying he'd be able to give fusion a better time than those 5 girls...
Krial15-Oct-21 09:02 PM
Oh I meant this
Sorry
Jason15-Oct-21 09:02 PM
lmao
Krial15-Oct-21 09:02 PM
I really seem to recall that as him
I remember saucy got on cam once and he was saying saucy was fat
Jason15-Oct-21 09:02 PM
jhin is in the reggie webm
Krial15-Oct-21 09:02 PM
When saucy is like. Not fat at all
Comfy popped off hard on him lol
Jason15-Oct-21 09:03 PM
i wanna see that
Krial15-Oct-21 09:03 PM
Dude it was hysterical
In some voice chat
I didn’t shadow play it but god I wish I had of
Black Lily
Remember this is unironically some peoples personality now
June15-Oct-21 09:34 PM
WTF don't call me out like that bro
Black Lily
Remember this is unironically some peoples personality now
Krial15-Oct-21 09:35 PM
Some?
Most
Lol
Krial
I remember saucy got on cam once and he was saying saucy was fat
Stannic15-Oct-21 09:43 PM
>saucy is fat
If that's fat then that anorexic girl in canada is normal weight
what the fuck
Black Lily
Remember this is unironically some peoples personality now
Stannic15-Oct-21 09:46 PM
don't call me out bro
Jason15-Oct-21 09:49 PM
ironic cause jhin is fat as shit so
June
WTF don't call me out like that bro
Pineapples15-Oct-21 09:50 PM
Only when you're drunk.
As for the current discussion, fat seems to be a go-to insult around here. Literally high school tier shit trying to throw out anything they can think of that someone might be insecure about.
Even if they clearly aren't.
Pineapples
As for the current discussion, fat seems to be a go-to insult around here. Literally high school tier shit trying to throw out anything they can think of that someone might be insecure about.
Stannic15-Oct-21 09:52 PM
haha ur ghey and have a successful work life fk u
Black Lily15-Oct-21 09:56 PM
I like to learn peoples insecurities before I insult them
Pineapples15-Oct-21 09:56 PM
There we go, home now so I can save it on my desktop.
Black Lily
I like to learn peoples insecurities before I insult them
Stannic15-Oct-21 09:59 PM
what are mine
Pineapples
Only when you're drunk.
June15-Oct-21 10:01 PM
Yeah
Stannic
what are mine
Black Lily15-Oct-21 10:01 PM
Your hairline
Stannic15-Oct-21 10:01 PM
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
HOW DO YOU KNOW I SHAVED MY HEAD TO BE LIKE A ZEN MONK
Mumu from NYC16-Oct-21 01:14 AM
tf happened
Black Lily16-Oct-21 01:22 AM
?
Krial
When saucy is like. Not fat at all
Distoibed16-Oct-21 03:52 AM
I saw his belly exceeding his frame a significant amount
And wasn't that auralix
Black Lily
I like to learn peoples insecurities before I insult them
Distoibed16-Oct-21 04:02 AM
same
Distoibed16-Oct-21 01:03 PM
revoked cakey's access to wallstreetbets cus he asked
idk if it's big enough for #actions
but just that you guys know
Brainy16-Oct-21 05:32 PM
Oh no I hope he didn't lose a lot of his savings
Krial17-Oct-21 02:28 AM
thoughts on banning twitch advertising
had like 3 ppl complain about knight chase spamming his shit
or making a self promotion channel
i'm 200% in either forcing it into its own channel or just out right banning it
thoughts @June
whoops
meant to say mod(edited)
@mod
Pineapples17-Oct-21 02:34 AM
If it's a new person who just starts shilling their shit, then obviously they can get fucked. If it's someone we know well I don't think it's so bad, but if he's been spamming it enough for 3 people to complain then he should probably chill out.
Perrine17-Oct-21 02:35 AM
Shilling spam is annoying. If there needs to be hard-fast rule about it, I'd lean towards a channel specifically for shilling so people can easily mute it.
Black Lily17-Oct-21 02:35 AM
Have they tried talking to kc first or are they just bitches and went straight to us
Krial17-Oct-21 02:35 AM
lemme ask
that being said
Perrine17-Oct-21 02:35 AM
But first, talk with said shillers
Krial17-Oct-21 02:35 AM
even if they didnt ask him, looking at his messages sent i see it one every page
like one every time you click next
which does seem excessive
Black Lily17-Oct-21 02:36 AM
He want to let his bros know he's streaming(edited)
Krial17-Oct-21 02:36 AM
sources say they have not asked him to stop
Pineapples17-Oct-21 02:36 AM
Where's this?
Black Lily17-Oct-21 02:36 AM
Nobody ever wants to confront people with their issues
Krial17-Oct-21 02:37 AM
search from: knight chase
youll see most of his messages sent recently are about it so i get their frustration
that being said i can probably just tell him to knock it off and he chill out
Pineapples17-Oct-21 02:37 AM
Good luck with that.
Black Lily17-Oct-21 02:37 AM
#vtubers could be expanded to #streamers if necessary
Krial17-Oct-21 02:38 AM
but i think maybe kc will stop if i tell him to
i tell him rq
Black Lily17-Oct-21 02:40 AM
Like like he only makes one post about it when he's streaming
I wouldn't call that excessive
Pineapples17-Oct-21 02:41 AM
Oh, it's all in #nsfw-chat. And that's the channel everyone chooses because it's "unmoderated." And yet they're complaining about what's in it.
But yeah, looks like he just posts the link when he streams. Even if he did multiple separate streams every day, that channel's so active that it wouldn't do much anyway.
And a bit of just talking about how his channel's going. I don't see much of a problem with that either.
Krial17-Oct-21 02:55 AM
now i'm unironically watching his stream and its fucking adorable
lmfao
Krial17-Oct-21 03:03 AM
hes his only mod and reads reports before he allows them
lol
Pineapples17-Oct-21 03:06 AM
The automod thing where messages require approval?
Krial17-Oct-21 03:06 AM
yeah
he just reads them out and then says if hes allowing them or not
i convinced him to change his follow message to "USERNAME is now a GAMER!!"
Pineapples17-Oct-21 03:11 AM
Well, he's definitely got his whole 'forced persona' thing that most streamers have all ready to go.
Black Lily
Have they tried talking to kc first or are they just bitches and went straight to us
June17-Oct-21 03:15 AM
this
solve it first by talking to kc before escalating to #mods
Pineapples
If it's a new person who just starts shilling their shit, then obviously they can get fucked. If it's someone we know well I don't think it's so bad, but if he's been spamming it enough for 3 people to complain then he should probably chill out.
Brainy17-Oct-21 04:13 AM
I agree 100% with your thoughts.
Besides Knight Chase there's Mentle and a few others (harmless).
Converting #vtubers to #streamers would piss people off IMHO. Self-promotion is a huge distraction from discussion.
I think a dedicated #streams or #promotion channel would fit better since people can mute it.(edited)
Krial17-Oct-21 05:24 AM
I think the main reason I bring it up is the idea of a promotion channel may be good in general
Might introduce others to do that kind of stuff
🔇17-Oct-21 05:26 AM
Sounds dumb, people need to stop being babies about shit.
Azuth17-Oct-21 05:58 AM
nsfw chat is the /trash/ of this server, their complaints are invalid
Dal29017-Oct-21 12:36 PM
Only thing I can add is I know for a fact people would lose their shit if streamers were openly approved of by the offical vrg server, let knight chase get bullied by others, he is shilling a stream in a 4chin related discord, self solving.
Distoibed17-Oct-21 12:42 PM
What dal said
KC knows what kind of backlash he's getting because it's been like this for years
Stannic17-Oct-21 12:52 PM
let them stew in their complaints and tell them to use general
ExecutiveJackbotBOT17-Oct-21 02:57 PM
GAMER???
Mumu from NYC17-Oct-21 02:57 PM
June17-Oct-21 06:24 PM
no stream promotion
Brainy17-Oct-21 06:26 PM
So it sounds like we're on dedicated #promotion channel and on using #nsfw-chat for this purpose and if they got a problem with it then fuck off?(edited)
Brainy
So it sounds like we're on dedicated #promotion channel and on using #nsfw-chat for this purpose and if they got a problem with it then fuck off? (edited)
Distoibed17-Oct-21 06:31 PM
if people have a probem with the streamer, man up and yell at the streamer
we don't support it, but we're not gonna sniff the chats like a bloodhound and remove twitch streamer links
Stannic17-Oct-21 07:04 PM
^
If they're self-promoting and they get annoyed then tell KC to fuck off or simply ignore
or use the block button if it annoys them that much :^)
we have kuiwa and yuru who have their own twitch channels and streams also so i don't think we have a streamer hate problem for this issue. just kc being kc or incessant self-promotions(edited)
Perrine17-Oct-21 07:13 PM
wait
are you suggesting that
if people have a problem with another person's behavior
they talk to that person?
Black Lily17-Oct-21 07:13 PM
Yes
Perrine17-Oct-21 07:14 PM
Brainy17-Oct-21 08:33 PM
Revolutionary
Brainy17-Oct-21 11:12 PM
How long do we want to keep Dot out of #nsfw-chat ?
./a.out17-Oct-21 11:13 PM
forever
Dal29017-Oct-21 11:16 PM
People do high tier trolling to voice their displeasure with it taking things over, his version of messing with it is spamming the gamer word 2000000 times(edited)
Black Lily17-Oct-21 11:23 PM
Dot's criticism isn't wrong but thanks to his reputation nobody will ever take him seriously
June17-Oct-21 11:26 PM
He only spammed the chat and annoyed people
Don't think he deserves it post in it if he's going to harass people
If he keeps pinging mods, I'll remove his ability to ping roles
Brainy17-Oct-21 11:35 PM
Makes sense
I didn't know if we had a time limit on him
I released the futanari and now Dot may be seriously trying to sex me up
I think not being able to browse #nsfw-pics may be affecting him lol
June17-Oct-21 11:38 PM
Lol
He's a horny bastard
You're a female in the internet, you know you shouldn't offer sex lol
Black Lily17-Oct-21 11:39 PM
He's Mexican afterall
June17-Oct-21 11:39 PM
Monkey mode engaged
Black Lily17-Oct-21 11:39 PM
Rainy is a femoid?
June17-Oct-21 11:40 PM
No they have a bigger dick than me
./a.out17-Oct-21 11:41 PM
He's as /d/ as they come
Brainy17-Oct-21 11:47 PM
The biggest D
Brainy
I released the futanari and now Dot may be seriously trying to sex me up
Krial18-Oct-21 12:17 AM
i doubt it
dot is as gay as they come
Brainy18-Oct-21 01:02 AM
Distoibed18-Oct-21 01:02 AM
Having been depraved of coochie will make most men gay
June18-Oct-21 01:09 AM
please maim
I need coochie
Brainy18-Oct-21 01:13 AM
If I were a dude I'd be gay
Black Lily18-Oct-21 01:17 AM
Vaginas look nasty
Distoibed18-Oct-21 01:18 AM
They kinda do
But usually the rest of the package looks good enough
That's like when people ask me to open my whispers on Twitch (edited)
Except without the towel
Then you check their Twitter and it's like this:
It's like half the time "Women Ally" stuff
Distoibed
I think that's Just your gay hormones acting up
Black Lily18-Oct-21 01:32 AM
Dicks are so cute omg(⁄ ⁄•⁄ω⁄•⁄ ⁄)⁄ when you hold one in your hand and it starts twitching its like its nuzzling you(/ω＼) or when they perk up and look at you like" owo nya? :3c" hehe ~ penis-kun is happy to see me!!（＾ワ＾） and the most adorable thing ever is when sperm-sama comes out but theyre rlly shy so u have to work hard!!(๑•̀ㅁ•́๑)✧ but when penis-kun and sperm-sama meet and theyre blushing and all like "uwaaa~!" (ﾉ´ヮ´)ﾉ: ･ﾟhehehe~penis-kun is so adorable (●´Д｀●)・
ExecutiveJackbotBOT18-Oct-21 01:35 AM
I'm crying RN
Krial18-Oct-21 01:35 AM
Lmao
Brainy18-Oct-21 01:36 AM
Speaking of women ally I got this at work:
Black Lily18-Oct-21 01:36 AM
No you don't
Brainy18-Oct-21 01:36 AM
Now if I don't wear this I am not woman ally or woman plz halp
Black Lily
Dicks are so cute omg(⁄ ⁄•⁄ω⁄•⁄ ⁄)⁄ when you hold one in your hand and it starts twitching its like its nuzzling you(/ω＼) or when they perk up and look at you like" owo nya? :3c" hehe ~ penis-kun is happy to see me!!（＾ワ＾） and the most adorable thing ever is when sperm-sama comes out but theyre rlly shy so u have to work hard!!(๑•̀ㅁ•́๑)✧ but when penis-kun and sperm-sama meet and theyre blushing and all like "uwaaa~!" (ﾉ´ヮ´)ﾉ: ･ﾟhehehe~penis-kun is so adorable (●´Д｀●)・
Distoibed18-Oct-21 01:36 AM
Already saw that vid enough times to build up resistance
Brainy18-Oct-21 01:37 AM
Wait there's a vid? I've just seen the copypasta
I had no idea it came from a video lol
Brainy
Now if I don't wear this I am not woman ally or woman plz halp
June18-Oct-21 01:40 AM
rip woman bits
Brainy18-Oct-21 01:42 AM
It's either that or put this on and RIP pride
Distoibed18-Oct-21 01:48 AM
@Brainy just say you dont want to wear opinionated T-shirts at work
Brainy18-Oct-21 01:56 AM
It's easier said than done when you're the only one in the meeting not wearing it and they know you got one
But I already got a plan for this
Gonna wear a "I love my Mom" shirt or something and say it's for my Mom's birthday and since she's a woman I'm celebrating her
At least that's the plan right now lol
Distoibed18-Oct-21 01:59 AM
Do you work for Twitch?
Brainy18-Oct-21 01:59 AM
Not FTE no
But I do work for them, TikTok, and others contract basis off and on
I refuse to move to SF so I'll never work for any of them FTE
Doing everything I can to just get out of California right now evenm
June18-Oct-21 02:18 AM
Nice
Mumu from NYC18-Oct-21 02:21 AM
i miss mr chair.....
Brainy18-Oct-21 04:26 AM
Want me to add him back?
I think I can as mod?
Or do we vote on new emotes?(edited)
Black Lily18-Oct-21 04:28 AM
I don't remember that emote at all
Brainy
Or do we vote on new emotes? (edited)
Black Lily18-Oct-21 04:29 AM
Just no ilulu emotes
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Brainy18-Oct-21 04:31 AM
Distoibed18-Oct-21 04:31 AM
June18-Oct-21 06:27 AM
Mumu from NYC18-Oct-21 07:21 AM
why is she jerking off an invisible cock
Distoibed18-Oct-21 07:33 AM
is mien cok
Krial18-Oct-21 07:48 AM
no voting on emotes
just do them who cares
Black Lily18-Oct-21 07:49 AM
Don't feed the simps
Krial18-Oct-21 07:49 AM
also when dot out of timeout
he was complaining in vrc
Krial
he was complaining in vrc
Distoibed18-Oct-21 08:13 AM
he complains everywhere
about anything
I literally asked him why he's such a whiney little bitch baby who complains
he literally said that he loves complaining
Krial18-Oct-21 08:19 AM
Yeah
Lmao
Distoibed18-Oct-21 08:26 AM
I should stop using "literally"
Dal29018-Oct-21 01:45 PM
I am waiting for the
>joins workshop VC
>dal unbingus me pleaaaaaaaaaaaaase
Perrine18-Oct-21 02:51 PM
Rumours are spreading that there is a client/mod that can steal anyones password at will. That they just have to be in a lobby with you.
That rumour is not true.
What that mod does is check your username against a set of leaked databases to find your password. If you re-use your password on multiple websites, STOP DOING THAT FOR EXACTLY THAT REASON!
This also applies to any other accounts you may have, apply the following security measures to anything you may be using:
- Use different passwords for different websites.
- Enable 2 Factor Authentication.
- Consider a password manager
Nobody can just see or grab your password at will. That's just straight up not possible!
imagine thinking people can steal a password at will
imagine reusing your passwords across multiple websites and not seeing how retarded that is upfront
Black Lily18-Oct-21 05:26 PM
People are dumb
Perrine
imagine reusing your passwords across multiple websites and not seeing how retarded that is upfront
Distoibed19-Oct-21 12:17 PM
I used to do that
but if they find out mine, they can have the accs
all worthless dead forums anyways
Perrine19-Oct-21 12:17 PM
I've been password manager for a decade now
When there are beaches on random old site i forgot about, I don't stress it at all
No "what did i use there? "
It's all unique \o/
Distoibed19-Oct-21 12:19 PM
I've recently switched over (4 years ago)
Brainy19-Oct-21 04:06 PM
Been using Key Pass for like 10 years now lol
That in addition to Yubikeys and 2FA where supported
Perrine19-Oct-21 06:21 PM
I ues keepass too
Stannic19-Oct-21 06:21 PM
i use bitwarden becasue a friend recommended it to me
Pineapples19-Oct-21 08:18 PM
Do we count Smooxie as basically /vrg/ these days? He's not really, just got dragged in by the kemono weirdos, but we have made exceptions for people who were well known/liked enough in the community.(edited)
Jason19-Oct-21 08:19 PM
if you are known to be vrg it seems odd to revoke that knowledge arbitrarily
Pineapples19-Oct-21 08:19 PM
You can see he just got invited to join Ashei playing games.
Dal29019-Oct-21 08:19 PM
The debate for who is /vrg/ has always been a spicy one, I am pretty sure they have no idea where they are
Azuth19-Oct-21 08:20 PM
I personally wouldn't have let them in, but we don't run #welcome by comittee
Jason19-Oct-21 08:21 PM
if he leaves again then it can be an issue otherwise i don't see why anyone would care
it'd definitely be annoying if he tried to come and go just to use VC when there are 80 servers and group calls to be done
Dal29019-Oct-21 08:22 PM
I personally disagree with they have been around long enough logic, if they don't chan don't let them in here
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Jason19-Oct-21 08:23 PM
a lot of people here don't chan tho
Dal29019-Oct-21 08:23 PM
Then get them out
/u/GemManBad19-Oct-21 08:24 PM
there are many servers to do this thing, so why come if you dont care
Brainy19-Oct-21 08:24 PM
I have no issue with people who have been here so long nobody has an issue with them
Dal29019-Oct-21 08:24 PM
My issue stems from it would be nice if it stopped with them
Brainy19-Oct-21 08:24 PM
But that's assuming they're already here like who was it we were discussing last time?
/u/GemManBad
there are many servers to do this thing, so why come if you dont care
Azuth19-Oct-21 08:24 PM
because their friends are here
and/or they want an invite to the assetcord
Dal29019-Oct-21 08:25 PM
It isn't just one exception, its always let in their 12 other friends
Azuth19-Oct-21 08:25 PM
that's what I've noticed
Jason19-Oct-21 08:25 PM
if the guy has actually never been on the thread then my bad
/u/GemManBad19-Oct-21 08:25 PM
smooxie is a friend, they are the example, unprompted i would have let them in
./a.out19-Oct-21 08:25 PM
I'm on the side of "if they're literally here just to use the vc and they don't chan, dont let them in"
Brainy19-Oct-21 08:26 PM
I had to scroll up, but who I was thinking of is Manami. So basically if it's another situation like that, I see no reason why we wouldn't just let them be.
./a.out19-Oct-21 08:26 PM
extremely easy to take it elsewhere
Jason19-Oct-21 08:26 PM
it is odd
Brainy19-Oct-21 08:26 PM
They don't go to 4Chan at all?
Jason19-Oct-21 08:26 PM
oku has a plenty active server i dunno why they wouldnt just do that
/u/GemManBad19-Oct-21 08:26 PM
im glad im not the only one asking the question
Brainy19-Oct-21 08:27 PM
As in they don't browse the general or they don't browse/never browsed 4Chan period?(edited)
./a.out19-Oct-21 08:27 PM
pretty sure they don't
Stannic19-Oct-21 08:27 PM
IT AIN'T MEEEEE
Jason19-Oct-21 08:27 PM
tbf i cant think of many examples of that
this is vrg not vrcg
Brainy19-Oct-21 08:28 PM
Manami is actually from 4Chan though IIRC
Jason19-Oct-21 08:28 PM
Chan - VR are my only requirements
Brainy19-Oct-21 08:28 PM
As in they actually browse generals there
I'm pretty sure they browse XIV general at least
Brainy
Manami is actually from 4Chan though IIRC
Dal29019-Oct-21 08:28 PM
Yeah he is basically on /ss13/ vorestation stuff all day sometimes
Stannic19-Oct-21 08:28 PM
yes they do
and ss13 ore-
there
Dal29019-Oct-21 08:28 PM
It is kind of terrifying how powerful that guy is
Stannic19-Oct-21 08:29 PM
idk he seems like the average coomer at this point
Brainy19-Oct-21 08:29 PM
But we know this guy doesn't or hasn't ever? Smooxie?
Stannic19-Oct-21 08:29 PM
ss13 vorestation is just another particular taste
just like people going to shangri-la mux
Dal29019-Oct-21 08:29 PM
He was around, but like many issues of letting everyone in without even interviewing them because they are a friend
How many friends of friends are let in
Brainy19-Oct-21 08:30 PM
Yeah I get what you're saying
Dal29019-Oct-21 08:30 PM
Peeps feel alienated from the 4chan discord created for them, simple question do we let those guys in
Stannic19-Oct-21 08:31 PM
idk why did ashei and oku feel the need to use this server's discord than go to their own respective ones
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and we only recently re-added flatgames also
Brainy19-Oct-21 08:31 PM
I want to say we should just let Smooxie be for the same reasons we let Manami. But I think we should clear them as at least having visited some board or general.(edited)
Otherwise it's kind of like a loophole for letting in a rando with no sense of the culture around here.(edited)
Dal29019-Oct-21 08:32 PM
They will invent an excuse on the spot lol
Stannic19-Oct-21 08:32 PM
someone said they don't even use 4chan
or did i get that wrong
Jason19-Oct-21 08:32 PM
i thought they browsed xivg or was that someone else
Stannic19-Oct-21 08:32 PM
or is there gonna need to be to how often someone needs to visit 4chinz
Jason
i thought they browsed xivg or was that someone else
Brainy19-Oct-21 08:33 PM
Yeah I think that was Manami.
Stannic19-Oct-21 08:33 PM
which is why vetting usually covers
Brainy19-Oct-21 08:33 PM
But I'm saying in this instance with Smooxie, since people are saying they don't go to 4chan at all
Stannic19-Oct-21 08:33 PM
because if anything, Ivy would've been let in real ez if that were the case
Stannic
or is there gonna need to be to how often someone needs to visit 4chinz
Brainy19-Oct-21 08:33 PM
I hope not because then I'd fail
ExecutiveJackbotBOT19-Oct-21 08:33 PM
I'm crying RN
./a.out19-Oct-21 08:34 PM
would probably help if we vet everyone who comes through regardless of if we know them or not. Would help avoid situations like this a little bit
Brainy19-Oct-21 08:34 PM
I definitely don't visit every day lol
./a.out
would probably help if we vet everyone who comes through regardless of if we know them or not. Would help avoid situations like this a little bit
Stannic19-Oct-21 08:34 PM
yep
I'm going with this
Jason19-Oct-21 08:34 PM
yeah i jumped the gun
Brainy19-Oct-21 08:34 PM
But I think it's reasonable to expect a person to occasionally visit a board or general or at least know what they are at the very least lol
ExecutiveJackbotBOT19-Oct-21 08:34 PM
Das racist
Jason19-Oct-21 08:34 PM
I guess i trusted Ashei and Oku in them saying they are vrg
Stannic19-Oct-21 08:34 PM
ah lemme just leave discord and come back they'll let me back in ez
instead of end process on discord to fucking take a break from it
or simply putting it in another folder
./a.out19-Oct-21 08:35 PM
this
I feel people who leave and come back constantly are probably doin it for attention
Stannic19-Oct-21 08:37 PM
i just find it fucking stupid that they come back and leave and come back because they have a lil' melty and can't think that they can put themselves on red, invisible, or some other status or mute this entire discord if they're having issues trying to focus on something else
or block someone if that person makes them go angy enough
Mumu from NYC19-Oct-21 08:53 PM
I only insta vet people I know
Aka people who left the server multiple times
Black Lily19-Oct-21 09:07 PM
A large portion of /vrg/ isn't anons they're just coomers from other vrc groups
Or Twitter femboys
But honestly the people we got from /xivg/ are worse then they could ever be
We either accept the status as cumrag or push against it like many have tried to do
Azuth19-Oct-21 09:37 PM
it's true but at the same time, we've seen some of our most impressive non-coomer events this year
no matter what you think of Yuki the sports festival was ingenious, tons of original mechanics by hiina and spirit
mentle's on track to make an original full length movie with everyone's help
regular events like cat's workout and pypy are more popular than ever, we had a commented vox machina tournament, mahjong went from a niche thing like 8 of us did to where we're now organizing a tourney of 60+ people(edited)
June19-Oct-21 09:42 PM
its too easy to get lost in the vocal coomers
Azuth19-Oct-21 09:42 PM
yep
you have spirit and gizmo hosting the dinner circle each month, hell I got to see Dune in a (virtual) theater early thanks to vrg
Jason19-Oct-21 09:44 PM
vrg is bigger in general so it'd stand to reason you'd see more everything yeah
Azuth19-Oct-21 09:44 PM
This has been a great year for the community, we've just also gotten a lot of coomers
and we're a 4chan community, complaining and shitflinging is in our blood
Stannic19-Oct-21 09:47 PM
the discord detoriated over the years
not the group
the group has more people now and shits going to happen more often
remember the thing about discord =/= the thread
Azuth19-Oct-21 09:49 PM
yep
Stannic19-Oct-21 09:49 PM
also means it isn't the vrc game either
ExecutiveJackbotBOT19-Oct-21 09:50 PM
I'm crying RN
Azuth19-Oct-21 09:51 PM
oh yeah
you got discord regulars and people who wish it was nuked again drinking together every weekend
Stannic19-Oct-21 10:01 PM
yep
quality might be shittier or better but people can still at least chat to each other or find an alternative to find event dates if its not gated by a cunt
well as long as we keep the fucking drama from reaching out to them that the hornet's nest starts bitching a ton
Pineapples20-Oct-21 12:37 AM
At least we have the friends we made along the way™.
Stannic20-Oct-21 12:39 AM
@Krial the fuck happened to eva
did his account get banned?
Stannic
@Krial the fuck happened to eva
Krial20-Oct-21 01:00 AM
wat
no?
lol
Stannic20-Oct-21 01:00 AM
go look in actions
why isn't he showing up in the unclean
or was jackbot down?
Krial20-Oct-21 01:01 AM
he didnt leave
i dont think?
hes gay baby'd atm
can only post in nsfw
Black Lily20-Oct-21 01:08 AM
He decided to try baiting me after I deleted some of his nsfw posts in #general he's a gay baby for a day
Stannic20-Oct-21 02:05 AM
oh
Dal290
I personally disagree with they have been around long enough logic, if they don't chan don't let them in here
Perrine20-Oct-21 01:16 PM
The criteria for being 4chan is incredibly easy. It's not "lives and breathes 4chan," it's not "used it in 2007," it's not "regularly checks a board or thread."
It's "used 4chan at some point long enough to convince someone they know what the fuck 4chan's culture is like," and that could literally be a day on /v/.
I'd argue secondaries could qualify too, if they're secondary to a very 4chan group and take to it like a fish to water
Dal29020-Oct-21 01:17 PM
The issue entirely stems from VRC
Perrine20-Oct-21 01:17 PM
Mm
The problem is when people try to game it
Dal29020-Oct-21 01:17 PM
People are used to entering niche hidden away communities all of the time, /vrg/ is just another label to them
Perrine20-Oct-21 01:17 PM
Mm, that's true
Dal29020-Oct-21 01:17 PM
Hunk of these folks never touched chan a day in their life and will lie till the cows come home
Perrine20-Oct-21 01:18 PM
The biggest difference between "vrchat discord group #56" and vrg is that vrg is not supposed to be a discord vrc group
It's a 4chan group that happens to vrchat
Dal29020-Oct-21 01:19 PM
Yeah, so my definition is the discord has acted harmfully towards the thread in that regard, not to the extent some of those retards like yuki think it does with "content draining" from a dead subject
Perrine20-Oct-21 01:19 PM
If there's something something awful has over us, it's that vetting and gatekeeping is incredibly easy there
Dal29020-Oct-21 01:19 PM
I have had to deal with handling more of a discord community then a 4chan one, I am not having fun with that
Perrine20-Oct-21 01:20 PM
I hate modern SA but i still love that outdoors that try to j4g still hand over literal money for the privilege
Outsidets
Outsiders
And then they get ridiculed
And they can only be redeemed by being competent when they make a second account (and never let it slip that they failed the first time), or by being socialized enough to have the shame removed naturally over time
Dal29020-Oct-21 01:22 PM
I think that is where our issue came from, people became too outside friendly, not an issue entirely but it removed the shame bar that helped make randoms panic or have to figure out the environment better
Perrine20-Oct-21 01:24 PM
You know, that would be hilarious just to see the shitstorm on all fronts. Want to join vrg but you failed the "I'm 4chan" test? Buy a 4chan pass and post on the thread with a tripcode and the pass visible. You'll be let in, and everyone will know you paid money for the privilege. It's up to you to prove your scarlet letter doesn't matter.
I'm not seriously proposing it, but can you imagine how angry everyone would be?
And the hilarious part is you could just... use 4chan instead
Dal29020-Oct-21 01:25 PM
Haha chan culture mixing with that junk, how would everyone react if people just started mass tripcoding
Perrine20-Oct-21 01:25 PM
Oh my god
It would be amazing
And be literally in 4chan tradition
Plus you have to learn how to bitcoin for passes now, right?
Oh god it's so delicious
Imagine the tears of people trying but failing to buy their way in
Proving they're both retarded and the antithesis of 4chan
Making them interact with bitcoin
Lose money because they can't into basic shit
I want to drink these tears
Dal29020-Oct-21 01:28 PM
It'll never happen, our thread doesn't contain enough soul
Perrine20-Oct-21 01:28 PM
A boy has the right to dream
Dal29020-Oct-21 01:31 PM
I think at the end of the day we always ask who is really the chins, shit is a really complicated question, the way I see it I don't complicate it, if they are obviously a traveler or some kind of social vrc chameleon or somebody who gave up on chan after barely using /vrg/ more then a year ago some cases never did, I consider them toxic and should be removed. Leaving too much of that around has proven to spread, people just giving up on acting like they give a shit about where this is and what it is supposed to be.
Perrine20-Oct-21 01:32 PM
You have to gatekeep. Your group isn't your group if there's no difference between it and the sea(edited)
You just have to make the gate fair, and so easy no one can complain while still doing its job
Dal29020-Oct-21 01:33 PM
I found this shit on fucking ifunny instead of the original artist holy fuck
Perrine20-Oct-21 01:33 PM
People who can't make it and complain unknowingly ridicule themselves
Perrine
Plus you have to learn how to bitcoin for passes now, right?
Distoibed20-Oct-21 01:57 PM
you can buy passes with other means through some wacky website
Perrine20-Oct-21 03:18 PM
Gotta figure it out yourself though, right?
June20-Oct-21 04:13 PM
If you want to gate keep harder do it
Perrine
The criteria for being 4chan is incredibly easy. It's not "lives and breathes 4chan," it's not "used it in 2007," it's not "regularly checks a board or thread."
It's "used 4chan at some point long enough to convince someone they know what the fuck 4chan's culture is like," and that could literally be a day on /v/.
Brainy20-Oct-21 04:46 PM
Very well said
Perrine20-Oct-21 04:47 PM
People don't really get it somehow. I dunno. I guess the culture of post counts and account karma are too embedded into their heads
Like if it's not quantifiable as a hard stat, it's not real
You know if you're 4chan or not. There's no test.
June20-Oct-21 04:47 PM
I dont see it as a binary b&w
but you do know if your more one side or the other
Perrine20-Oct-21 04:48 PM
It's binary, but the bar is stupidly low. If I were to illustrate it in hilariously bad ascii, here's the continuum of not4chan and 4chan:
not 4chan [----------------------------------------------------] 4chan
And here's where the qualifying line is:
not 4chan[--|--------------------------------------------------] 4chan
June20-Oct-21 04:49 PM
agreed
mf be like one dash at best in vrc
Perrine20-Oct-21 04:49 PM
yeah. The one dash line is a valid measure
What does it measure? Fuck if I know. But there it is.
June20-Oct-21 04:50 PM
who knows what the scale is
Brainy20-Oct-21 04:50 PM
I feel like it's literally a matter of have you visited or used this site before. Even if someone doesn't visit every day, if they're even vaguely familiar with 4Chan, they should be able to at least pass the thread number test.
Perrine20-Oct-21 04:50 PM
yeah. The "tests" we've put in are so hilariously easy if you know anything about 4chan
they're hardly a gate or a purity check
you can be the newfaggiest newfag, never lurked a day in your life
and you can make it in
June20-Oct-21 04:51 PM
I mean that should be trivial if you've ever seen a long running thread ever anywhere on 4c
hell even /gif/
and normies know of that
Perrine20-Oct-21 04:51 PM
If you've ever seen a 4chan thread, you can pass. ANd people don't.
June20-Oct-21 04:51 PM
yep
Brainy20-Oct-21 04:51 PM
Also I could care less what boards someone browses or if they're on the site every single day of the week. It's more that you at least know what you're getting into being on a server like this without crying about every little thing that could offend you.
June20-Oct-21 04:52 PM
knowing what boards are is a good thing
Perrine20-Oct-21 04:52 PM
Here. First thread on /a/. If you've seen this, you know how to "pass"
June20-Oct-21 04:52 PM
brb /a/
Perrine20-Oct-21 04:52 PM
hue
also Senpai ga Uzai is top tier
Dal29020-Oct-21 04:52 PM
The scale gets completely fucked when you consider /vrg/'s primary subject a social game
Shits wonky
Perrine20-Oct-21 04:53 PM
Yeah, the idea of an actual scale or test is stupid and laughable, and anyone who "is" 4chan enough knows it
Perrine
Here. First thread on /a/. If you've seen this, you know how to "pass"
June20-Oct-21 04:53 PM
>feet
Perrine20-Oct-21 04:53 PM
which is why any test or scale we use should be laughable
June20-Oct-21 04:53 PM
Perrine20-Oct-21 04:53 PM
and anyone who can't "pass" it is laughable as well
Dal29020-Oct-21 04:53 PM
I'll bring up the time I watched a guy walk into mahjong, and within 20 minutes he had already figured out the mannerisms and terms to use to fit in
Perrine20-Oct-21 04:53 PM
yes
June20-Oct-21 04:53 PM
fucking gumbos
Perrine20-Oct-21 04:54 PM
We're not actually filtering 4chan and non-4chan, to be honest. We're just filtering fucking idiots from people who know how to have fun and mesh
But yeah. We've got a culture, it's from 4chan, and we literally just want to keep out anyone who finds it fundamentally incompatible...and people too stupid to tell us they're from 4chan
June20-Oct-21 04:55 PM
and Nopey, Gumby's dog whose entire vocabulary is the word "nope".(edited)
June
knowing what boards are is a good thing
Brainy20-Oct-21 04:56 PM
Oh yeah I agree 100% on asking it for filtering. It's a good gauge especially when people fail hard naming any common thing about the board they cite.
I just mean that to me personally, if someone "passes" that junction, it doesn't matter to me what board it is or how often they visit. It's just necessary for us to gauge if people will even acclimate or fit in here without causing problems later on.
Perrine20-Oct-21 04:56 PM
I used to work the gun counter at Cabela's, basically the walmart of guns, yeah?
June20-Oct-21 04:56 PM
yeah, I honestly dont know what we're discussing tbh
Perrine20-Oct-21 04:56 PM
and there's this thing that's illegal and we gotta stop called a "Straw Purchase"
June20-Oct-21 04:56 PM
I swear everyones in agreement?
Dal29020-Oct-21 04:56 PM
Can we agree to let in anybody if the first thing they do is enter and say fuck you jannie
June20-Oct-21 04:56 PM
lmao
until people spoonfeed
Brainy20-Oct-21 04:57 PM
My concern is if we don't do it, we're going to get really woke people in here who might report every little thing about the server and users.
Perrine20-Oct-21 04:57 PM
It's when someone can't or doesn't want to complete a federal form to buy a gun from us, so they have someone else do the paperwork for them
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June20-Oct-21 04:57 PM
thats sus
Perrine20-Oct-21 04:57 PM
We don't know jack shit about the people coming in to buy guns, so honestly how are we gonna be able to detect that?
June
I swear everyones in agreement?
Dal29020-Oct-21 04:57 PM
I think this is discussion for discussions sake, p good to do from time to time
Perrine20-Oct-21 04:57 PM
Because people are so stupid, they let us know
Dal290
I think this is discussion for discussions sake, p good to do from time to time
June20-Oct-21 04:57 PM
keep on' then
Perrine20-Oct-21 04:58 PM
It's the same shit here. I don't care if you're actually 4chan or not, I care that you're not such an idiot you let us know you're not 4chan
If we can't tell, you're good enough for me.
Dal29020-Oct-21 04:58 PM
My line was drawn when I felt like I was having to talk to an unhealthy mixture of non-chan bros outweighing the autist I came here for
Perrine
Here. First thread on /a/. If you've seen this, you know how to "pass"
June20-Oct-21 04:59 PM
Dal29020-Oct-21 04:59 PM
But that is more under control now that vetting is done and people actually speak up about that
June20-Oct-21 04:59 PM
June
Click to see attachment🖼️
Perrine20-Oct-21 04:59 PM
imagine if this is real
Brainy20-Oct-21 04:59 PM
June20-Oct-21 04:59 PM
Brainy20-Oct-21 05:00 PM
You guys have no idea how bad it is there lol
The shit that needs to get removed that people post
June20-Oct-21 05:00 PM
I dont browse a often
Brainy20-Oct-21 05:00 PM
Well actually you probably do
Considering we have some former 4Chan mods in here I think lol
But yeah it's pretty bad...
June20-Oct-21 05:00 PM
just happy to see people telling people to fuck off
Perrine20-Oct-21 05:00 PM
meanwhile, on 4chan
June20-Oct-21 05:00 PM
I know of it
Jason20-Oct-21 05:01 PM
muh cheese pizza
muh captain picard
Perrine20-Oct-21 05:01 PM
oh lol this has the url for fuckin' 2ch
Brainy20-Oct-21 05:01 PM
I'm just glad we're keeping this shit off here
The Mizumi stuff was pretty bad
Dal29020-Oct-21 05:01 PM
Perrine20-Oct-21 05:02 PM
newfags don't know that 4chan used to have /l/
Brainy20-Oct-21 05:02 PM
4Chan used to have a lot of stuff before they realized how illegal it was to just tolerate it
Perrine20-Oct-21 05:02 PM
p much
Brainy
The Mizumi stuff was pretty bad
June20-Oct-21 05:02 PM
yeah homies alright, but he cant post that shit on discord where it could literally get the entire server banned
Brainy20-Oct-21 05:02 PM
Then they learned why it's necessary to have shit just expire so you don't have to deal with moderating on a massive scale
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Perrine20-Oct-21 05:02 PM
p much
Don't remind them that pedobear was a thing
Brainy20-Oct-21 05:03 PM
It still is I thought?
June20-Oct-21 05:03 PM
I wish the porn channel and the nsfw-chat channels were set to expire
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Brainy20-Oct-21 05:03 PM
At least I still see ascii of it
Holy fuck I agree with that so much lol
June20-Oct-21 05:03 PM
I mean it went mainstream for a bit then died
pedobear
Brainy20-Oct-21 05:04 PM
I wish the channels would just purge after a week or something so we didn't have to concern ourselves with them too much.
Same with the generals
June20-Oct-21 05:05 PM
Yeah
its really just the workshop, hardware channels and stuff you might want to tap history on
need to have a few long term channels to keep files around etc
events
but it would be so much better if the default was shit gone after a bit
Perrine20-Oct-21 05:07 PM
Pedobear lives on as Gondola and
uh
what's the one that goes bepis
Brainy20-Oct-21 05:07 PM
Yeah at the end of the day I don't think it's hurting anything to purge those channels after X days. It's not exactly high value content people are going to go back to months in history to view.
Perrine20-Oct-21 05:07 PM
I agree tbh
plus that frees people up to say things and not get crucified for it later, like classic 4chan
June20-Oct-21 05:08 PM
the longest I ever go back is skim though the porn channel after a week of not looking though it
because its like 99% shit
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Perrine20-Oct-21 05:08 PM
But not what I posted right
right
June20-Oct-21 05:08 PM
lets not get into porn taste in the mod chat lmao(edited)
Perrine20-Oct-21 05:09 PM
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Brainy20-Oct-21 05:09 PM
Not unless something slipped past us that really shouldn't be on Discord and they're looking to get us nuked.
June20-Oct-21 05:09 PM
what channels would get the treatment
and would we ask or just do it
Perrine20-Oct-21 05:09 PM
just do it for nsfw imo
Brainy20-Oct-21 05:10 PM
Yeah it's the same for me, I tend to go back and screen through it just to be sure nobody snuck anything by me that really shouldn't be on here ever.
Perrine20-Oct-21 05:10 PM
basically anything that feels temporary or spammy ought to get it imo
mutes, bot commands, etc.
Brainy20-Oct-21 05:10 PM
Thankfully other than the one incident with Mizumi we haven't gotten anything like that in awhile. Some borderline cases, but we nuked the posts pretty quick.
Perrine
basically anything that feels temporary or spammy ought to get it imo
Brainy20-Oct-21 05:10 PM
Agree with this too
Perrine20-Oct-21 05:11 PM
plus it'd give a difference between nsfw chat and general
other than "can post lewds here"
Brainy20-Oct-21 05:11 PM
The general chats are such a fucking mess lol
Perrine20-Oct-21 05:11 PM
Rename #nsfw-chat #/b/-random
Brainy20-Oct-21 05:12 PM
Randumb
June20-Oct-21 05:12 PM
after hiding muted channels I can only see this many
unless I get pinged into a hidden channel
so much of this sever is bloat
soccer is the only muted channel I care about, but kizzy posts to the events channel now
Brainy20-Oct-21 05:13 PM
Yeah some channels could easily be combined like #vrfps and #vr-games. But as with everything on here, there's always some historical reason why we made the dedicated channels.
I just don't remember it
June20-Oct-21 05:14 PM
vrfps was for when people got sweaty about pavlov/cumtractors and onward before it died
Brainy20-Oct-21 05:14 PM
Yeah I could remember it had something to do with Pavlov VR
June20-Oct-21 05:14 PM
because people were trying to play township tale
and getting talked over in vr-games
Brainy20-Oct-21 05:14 PM
Ahh that makes sense
June20-Oct-21 05:15 PM
honestly we should just use the thread system :^)
have a general channel and let people spam threads under it
now that threads are finished and have proper perms
Dal29020-Oct-21 05:21 PM
Threads would be nice to utilize, shame vrfps deadassed
Distoibed20-Oct-21 05:22 PM
I'd actually like the idea of certain chats being purged after couple of hours
June20-Oct-21 05:25 PM
which channels if you could
imo if we kinda all feel like it we eventually could bring it to a ping and vote. after we get a vibe on it though
what rough timeframe, few hours, few days, week, or depends on the channel
Distoibed20-Oct-21 05:29 PM
I'd say like maybe 1-2 days
so that people who don't frequent this server get somewhat enough time to catch up
I chose those channels since they are the ones who get much offtopic talk
but we'll probably lose pinned stuff tho
Black Lily20-Oct-21 05:37 PM
That's a lot of messages
Dal29020-Oct-21 05:38 PM
Its just random discussion nothing too pressing
Brainy20-Oct-21 05:44 PM
Those would all be my picks too (along with #nsfw-pics ). Although I could see us putting #nsfw-pics on a much longer interval.
Stannic20-Oct-21 06:08 PM
yeah doing daily purges would be good
only reason why previous discords didn't do it was because workshop related info could be culled
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nowadays that's all in dal's workshop discord
Black Lily20-Oct-21 06:11 PM
Also most of us were too dumb to make bots
Distoibed20-Oct-21 06:19 PM
but since we have the Sole lead CEO senior accountant management HR pro developer of the hit-game lavender at our side, such things aren't an impossible dream anymore(edited)
Black Lily20-Oct-21 06:21 PM
And @./a.out
Distoibed20-Oct-21 06:26 PM
could've added me to the list, but since my webdev job and this awful semester, I'm enjoying every second of free time thatI get
Distoibed
could've added me to the list, but since my webdev job and this awful semester, I'm enjoying every second of free time thatI get
Stannic20-Oct-21 06:28 PM
>webdev job
HI ITS ME YOUR MANAGER WE HAVE THIS COOL NEW THING CALLED REACT, VUE, AND ANGULAR THAT WE WANT YOU TO ADD CAN YOU DO IT?
Distoibed20-Oct-21 06:29 PM
Nah, I do PHP laravel
Altho I'm doing react in my freetime
Stannic20-Oct-21 06:29 PM
good man
make sure you get into blazor and SignalR also as it'll be the more niftier toys with real time updates
seamless SPAs and async updates
Distoibed20-Oct-21 06:31 PM
We do that with livewire
Stannic20-Oct-21 06:31 PM
Distoibed20-Oct-21 06:31 PM
I'm Just a small junior
Stannic20-Oct-21 06:32 PM
dun matter to me
i like giving more thigns for people to know so they can bs on the resume
because fuck modern day HR
Distoibed20-Oct-21 06:33 PM
I'm making my resumé as a website
Distoibed
but since we have the Sole lead CEO senior accountant management HR pro developer of the hit-game lavender at our side, such things aren't an impossible dream anymore (edited)
June20-Oct-21 07:05 PM
lmao
you forgot the other game I actually get paid to work on
Distoibed20-Oct-21 07:39 PM
Which
June20-Oct-21 07:44 PM
hytale
Krial21-Oct-21 01:11 AM
more complaints about kc stream shilling
this time from diff ppl
Pineapples21-Oct-21 01:14 AM
Is he still just posting it once a day when he goes live and maybe talking about it a bit? Or is he actually being obnoxious about it?(edited)
Looks like it's also in #nsfw-chat, which people love so much because it's 'unmoderated' so I'd tell them to deal with it.
Black Lily21-Oct-21 01:18 AM
It's literally one post
Distoibed21-Oct-21 01:19 AM
Moderate the unmoderated chat pls
Krial21-Oct-21 01:20 AM
i'm thinking about tagging knight chase
in feedback
and telling them to sort it out themselves
@Black Lily thoughts
Jason21-Oct-21 01:29 AM
unless he's spamming i don't know why anyone would care
Black Lily21-Oct-21 01:29 AM
We're all very autistic
Jason21-Oct-21 01:31 AM
i mean it's kinda cringe but ya its not like its against the rules
Black Lily21-Oct-21 01:32 AM
Especially not in the /trash/ channel
Perrine21-Oct-21 02:04 AM
He's not spamming and it's in the literal containment cesspool unmoderated space so
tell them to talk to him or wait until it's actual spam
Distoibed21-Oct-21 02:09 AM
>talk to him
Never gonna happen
June21-Oct-21 02:49 AM
just checked his last 8 posts of his twitch
all nsfw
bote, ashei, lamby are the only ones that responded to the post and complained
Brainy21-Oct-21 02:50 AM
He's not the only one doing it, Mentle does too. Neither are spamming it either, unless you consider posting it one a day to be spam.
June21-Oct-21 02:51 AM
nope, I dont, I wanted to know who, to tell them to shut the fuck up(edited)
Brainy21-Oct-21 02:51 AM
I still feel like it couldn't hurt making a dedicated channel, but if you guys don't want that, it feels harmless for now in nsfw chat.
They just need to stop being crybabies and deal with it.
I don't think they should be harassing others over it either (outside of nsfw when it is posted).
June21-Oct-21 02:52 AM
ye
Brainy21-Oct-21 02:58 AM
So it looks like we're telling them to post it in #vtubers now instead?
Distoibed21-Oct-21 02:58 AM
We've been giving streamers of every kind a hard time, how are they unable to tell them to fuck off
Brainy21-Oct-21 02:59 AM
Are we okay with that if people complain there?
Distoibed21-Oct-21 02:59 AM
Nsfw is wild-west
🔇21-Oct-21 02:59 AM
just tell the people to fuck off and stop being pussies
Brainy21-Oct-21 02:59 AM
I know that's why I'm asking
Since the impression Knight Chase now has is that he should be posting in #vtubers , I just don't want us holding it against them if they get complaints for posting in there too.
Distoibed21-Oct-21 03:00 AM
They are complaining about stuff in a place where everything goes
🔇21-Oct-21 03:00 AM
its not that big a deal
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Brainy21-Oct-21 03:01 AM
Kay good, I just didn't want us to potentially be guiding him in the direction of doing something worse that we could reprimand him for later.
Distoibed21-Oct-21 03:02 AM
Kinda funny that bote is the one complaining
Thought he'd be the one who would do this stuff too
With his daki and "botecon"
Brainy21-Oct-21 03:03 AM
Part of it may be jealousy because they don't have the balls to do it and advertise it here since they know they'll get shit on for it
🔇21-Oct-21 03:03 AM
bote likes to complain about anything
if they want us to moderate nsfw-chat, ill just start killing people who post images in there
June21-Oct-21 03:06 AM
no
🔇21-Oct-21 03:06 AM
(:
June21-Oct-21 03:06 AM
we are not moderating it
🔇21-Oct-21 03:06 AM
yeah i know
June21-Oct-21 03:06 AM
aite
🔇21-Oct-21 03:07 AM
i was just saying if i have to do something, ill make it so they wish i didnt
June21-Oct-21 03:07 AM
we do not bend a knee for every little cry baby
ah understood
what do you feel about the delete history of channels we talked about earlier
I can set it up easy, just would take a bit for the bot to catch up
🔇
i was just saying if i have to do something, ill make it so they wish i didnt
Distoibed21-Oct-21 03:08 AM
A man of my own heart
🔇21-Oct-21 03:08 AM
thats fine, i dont really care, and i suggested that previously as well
June21-Oct-21 03:08 AM
yeah I feel more inclined now than before
Distoibed21-Oct-21 03:08 AM
Anonymous channel when
🔇21-Oct-21 03:08 AM
we tried that once
it didnt go so well
June21-Oct-21 03:09 AM
was shit
Distoibed21-Oct-21 03:09 AM
In the orb discord?
June21-Oct-21 03:10 AM
no, first discord after soccer
kern/pony discord
Black Lily21-Oct-21 03:14 AM
I miss Anon27
June
no, first discord after soccer
Distoibed21-Oct-21 03:21 AM
I dont remember that feature in the kerncord
June21-Oct-21 03:22 AM
oh
wait I remember mommy yuru being spamed in chat
that was yuru cord 1 then(edited)
Black Lily21-Oct-21 03:24 AM
I don't think we had that then either
I think they just used notsobot
It has a command to mass delete messages
Distoibed21-Oct-21 03:27 AM
I only remember orb using a bot that did that
Distoibed
Anonymous channel when
Dal29021-Oct-21 04:27 AM
It openly encouraged shitposting so they could show up in the discord, worst case scenario
I am on the boat of yeah nsfw-chat is like /trash/, people wanted it that way, leave it be
June21-Oct-21 09:53 AM
no we def had an anon channel
you messaged it and it would post into a channel
Distoibed
I only remember orb using a bot that did that
Stannic21-Oct-21 11:15 AM
oh i remembered we had one and someone had a melty an hour into its inception
just more ways for people to run the gossip mills more and spread drama
it got taken down within 12 hours
June21-Oct-21 12:42 PM
yep
./a.out22-Oct-21 04:38 AM
Will do in the next update
Distoibed22-Oct-21 04:55 AM
@./a.out you could also get june's blocklist and go ham with the wacky jackbot responses
Distoibed22-Oct-21 05:08 AM
I kinda wanna be a meanie and create a vote in #voting that says:
"Should the jannies be allowed to moderate #nsfw-chat "
knowing it'll fail by a huge amount
anytime people ask us to do anything in #nsfw-chat , we'll just give them a screenshot of the vote
Pineapples22-Oct-21 05:13 AM
Probably not worth the trouble just for that. Plus it'll look like we've been conniving in here to find ways to fuck with the channel and were hoping people would conveniently agree to it.
Plus I think everyone knows that people think of it as 'unmoderated' so you don't need any kind of proof when bringing it up.
ExecutiveJackbotBOT22-Oct-21 05:24 AM
Das racist... wait no it's not
Pineapples22-Oct-21 05:24 AM
Pretty sure no one here ever uses the word any way other than negatively.
Brainy22-Oct-21 05:25 AM
Yeah exactly lol
It's like 99% likely to be used negatively here and/or viewed negatively by any T&S reviewing the report I'm guessing. So likely not good to have 2394032463 occurrences of it when searching server message history.(edited)
TLDR I agree 100% with sweeping it and variations of it after 24 hours.(edited)
Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.
Distoibed22-Oct-21 06:04 AM
and janny
and tray
Pineapples22-Oct-21 06:09 AM
They get offended by janny? But that's our word.
ExecutiveJackbotBOT22-Oct-21 06:09 AM
Das racist... wait no it's not
Brainy22-Oct-21 06:33 AM
Literally did a gig recently where a bunch of inexperienced mods were wanting to ban people for calling them "jannie" because it's "disrespectful".
These being people who mod Geek & Sundry.
Sorry, "professional chat moderators".
Krial22-Oct-21 07:23 AM
holy fuck
lmao
invite me to that server and ill show them disrespectful
Krial
invite me to that server and ill show them disrespectful
Stannic22-Oct-21 10:28 AM
invite me to that server so i can see krial grief them
Black Lily
Dicks are so cute omg(⁄ ⁄•⁄ω⁄•⁄ ⁄)⁄ when you hold one in your hand and it starts twitching its like its nuzzling you(/ω＼) or when they perk up and look at you like" owo nya? :3c" hehe ~ penis-kun is happy to see me!!（＾ワ＾） and the most adorable thing ever is when sperm-sama comes out but theyre rlly shy so u have to work hard!!(๑•̀ㅁ•́๑)✧ but when penis-kun and sperm-sama meet and theyre blushing and all like "uwaaa~!" (ﾉ´ヮ´)ﾉ: ･ﾟhehehe~penis-kun is so adorable (●´Д｀●)・
Distoibed22-Oct-21 10:51 AM
Stannic22-Oct-21 11:33 AM
Okay so about the unmoderated nsfw-chat
just to make sure i don't step on toes here
Stannic
just to make sure i don't step on toes here
Distoibed22-Oct-21 11:43 AM
treat it like /b/
unless they break big no-no rules, it's all good
Stannic22-Oct-21 11:43 AM
yep
Distoibed22-Oct-21 11:43 AM
child shit ect
Stannic22-Oct-21 11:43 AM
i have a lot of deleting shit later lol
Distoibed22-Oct-21 11:43 AM
but tbh
Stannic22-Oct-21 11:43 AM
just gonna let them have fun their fun
Distoibed22-Oct-21 11:43 AM
when june does his time clean wipe shit
we're barely needed
Stannic22-Oct-21 11:43 AM
i won't be needed anymore
you can de jannie me by that point
rename jannie to bell boy
when that happens
🔇22-Oct-21 02:23 PM
@Distoibed what did mizumi even do?
Brainy
Literally did a gig recently where a bunch of inexperienced mods were wanting to ban people for calling them "jannie" because it's "disrespectful".
Dal29022-Oct-21 02:28 PM
Imagine the ego
🔇
@Distoibed what did mizumi even do?
Distoibed22-Oct-21 02:30 PM
Asked to only see animale channel
Aka "remove all channels except #cute-animals "
🔇22-Oct-21 02:32 PM
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Dal290
Imagine the ego
Brainy22-Oct-21 04:14 PM
Yeah the ego was astounding to me. You're getting paid to moderate and you're going to go dickwaving about users being "disrespectful"? The fuck?
Explained a lot to me about why G&S viewership plummeted lmao
Oh yeah and they had no idea it came from 4chan, I had to explain it. They were saying it was clearly verbiage intended to "demean" them.(edited)
Pineapples22-Oct-21 04:21 PM
Well, they're not wrong, but if people are just using the word then who cares? You're not being paid to be respected.
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Brainy22-Oct-21 04:21 PM
Exactly lol
They even ranted about it on Twitter:
Meanwhile there are people modding 4ch communities for free while getting gore DMed to them lol
I have a feeling this is what's going on with a lot of weirdly moderated stuff like GDQ
Dal29022-Oct-21 04:35 PM
I am dealing with a minor case of concerned people dont respect him as an authority figure in my neck of the woods. I don't know how to break it to him that respect is earned from doing shit for years but mostly, the second you ask for it is the second you get the opposite. Especially with folks around here.
Dal290
I am dealing with a minor case of concerned people dont respect him as an authority figure in my neck of the woods. I don't know how to break it to him that respect is earned from doing shit for years but mostly, the second you ask for it is the second you get the opposite. Especially with folks around here.
You can guess but im not directly saying who :yes:
Brainy22-Oct-21 04:38 PM
I mean it's exactly as you said. Respect is earned and that's in social environments where you can expect to earn it.
Not all social environments allow for that.
Enforcing it artificially (through moderation action or rules) doesn't exactly cultivate the best social environment either.
Brainy
Enforcing it artificially (through moderation action or rules) doesn't exactly cultivate the best social environment either.
Stannic22-Oct-21 04:39 PM
it just creates more hate towards mods lmao
and fills ego of retards
and power tripping becomes more often
Dal29022-Oct-21 04:41 PM
Yee just like I had somebody ask for jannie for social status while drunk, twice, had to restrain myself from telling them to fuck off and die
Dal290
Yee just like I had somebody ask for jannie for social status while drunk, twice, had to restrain myself from telling them to fuck off and die
Stannic22-Oct-21 04:41 PM
yeah wheres my jannie status
Perrine22-Oct-21 04:44 PM
someone give me a quick rundown on what's going on?
Dal29022-Oct-21 04:44 PM
Harmless discussion once more
Brainy22-Oct-21 04:44 PM
Water cooler discussion
Stannic22-Oct-21 04:45 PM
yeah
and me shitposting and adding my own opinions and thinking it'll do anything
Brainy22-Oct-21 04:46 PM
Your opinions keep me sane
June22-Oct-21 05:49 PM
Brainy
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Pineapples22-Oct-21 06:37 PM
>I cannot do my job if I'm not respected in my position
You don't need to be respected to tell people to shut the fuck up or get banned. What an idiot.
Hell, it'll probably make it easier since they'll just make a bigger mess and give you more of a reason to deal with them.
Dal290
Yee just like I had somebody ask for jannie for social status while drunk, twice, had to restrain myself from telling them to fuck off and die
Distoibed22-Oct-21 08:10 PM
just tell them
it can be helpful sometimes
therapeutic
./a.out23-Oct-21 10:43 AM
Lots of peeps rejoining the server gettin auto vetted
Fun.
Mumu from NYC23-Oct-21 10:45 AM
is that a bad thing
./a.out
Lots of peeps rejoining the server gettin auto vetted
Krial23-Oct-21 11:14 AM
Are we vetting anyone and everyone?
Wintermute straight said he couldn’t give thread number because he’s banned atm lol
Stannic23-Oct-21 11:39 AM
i ain't part of the welcome crew
Krial
Wintermute straight said he couldn’t give thread number because he’s banned atm lol
Perrine23-Oct-21 12:14 PM
Azuth23-Oct-21 12:34 PM
I know we talked about always vetting, dunno if it ever became new policy
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<323-Oct-21 04:33 PM
I think everyone should be
Azuth23-Oct-21 05:18 PM
let's see if we can't make it official then
@mod@here go look at #mod-voting
Brainy23-Oct-21 05:35 PM
I agree with voting 'yes' on the latest #mod-voting in principle, but if we know someone goes to 4ch and they legitimately can't check the thread, it seems wrong voting 'yes' to this?(edited)
I'm pretty sure 4Ch bans most common VPNs?
I mean it's not some rando in this case, but someone known to all of us here.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<323-Oct-21 05:39 PM
you can find the thread number if you are banned they just lazy
are they banned on their phone too?
cmon
they just couldn't be asked to look for it
and if you are banned from /vg/ then how can you expect to be apart of a /vg/ group
my 2 cents at least
Brainy23-Oct-21 05:41 PM
People here have gotten banned before.
Pretty sure one was Carl.
The thing with phone is you run into the same issue as VPN. They are known to block entire ranges.
Couldn't we ask for proof at the very least of this and work around it?
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<323-Oct-21 05:43 PM
with most vpns they ban posting but not reading
and again this community is supposed to be for people who browse the thread
if you cant browse the thread
Brainy23-Oct-21 05:45 PM
It's not like we require people to browse the thread regularly to maintain status here.
We know he did at one point browse it and does in fact go to 4ch. He just happens to be banned at this moment (allegedly).(edited)
Even if some VPNs allow reading, or some phone providers alternate IP ranges, shouldn't we at least ask him to confirm this is the case, or provide some evidence that he is prevented from browsing?(edited)
Then go from there?
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<323-Oct-21 05:47 PM
also you can find the current number on google without even accessing 4chan
Brainy23-Oct-21 05:49 PM
That was the first thing I tried and the most recent I can find is archived from 4 days ago (still searching)(edited)
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<323-Oct-21 05:50 PM
look at more results from 4chan
Brainy23-Oct-21 05:50 PM
That's why I feel a bit sympathetic in this case
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<323-Oct-21 05:51 PM
Brainy23-Oct-21 05:56 PM
I mean I see what you're saying. But this is still expecting them to deduce which is current rather than archived when they can't access the site to confirm it. All when they risk getting it "wrong".
I dunno, it just doesn't sit right when they're known to us and being honest with their circumstances.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<323-Oct-21 05:57 PM
any archive site will also have the last thread
Brainy23-Oct-21 05:57 PM
Surely we could come up with some other way to vet them.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3
any archive site will also have the last thread
Brainy23-Oct-21 05:57 PM
Not necessarily and how would you know it's the last thread?
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<323-Oct-21 05:58 PM
the archive site archive by date
the last on archived is the last thread
again its all how we want to moderate
imo if you do not browse the thread
you do not belong here
Brainy23-Oct-21 06:00 PM
Reducing the search days by a week gives around 3-4 threads. Of those, 3 claim to be made 3, 4, 5, days ago with the same number. That's assuming the person uses Google or is even savvy enough with it to get that far (many use DuckDuckGo).
Which archive site? Because many do not have the most recent thread, or are linking to a thread as most recent from 2 days ago.
i don't even browse the threads often anymore due to shit quality
and last i recall, vetting in and letting people in means they browse the site and know the site
Brainy23-Oct-21 06:04 PM
Yeah and we've vetted people before on knowledge and information that is 4Chan specific and not thread specific.
I feel like if anything, we're adopting a more uncompromising policy than before, entirely prompted by one individual who we already know is a legitimate part of 4Chan and this community.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<323-Oct-21 06:05 PM
so is this a /vrg/ server or a ive looked at 4chan and know /vrg/ exists server
Brainy23-Oct-21 06:06 PM
It feels unfairly and unjustly targeted. Surely we could ask for confirmation that they are banned at the very least and work around that.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3
so is this a /vrg/ server or a ive looked at 4chan and know /vrg/ exists server
Brainy23-Oct-21 06:07 PM
I mean that literally describes half the people who use this Discord with any regularity. Not everyone is browsing the general daily, or much at all.
It's not like we police people to browse the general X times a week or month.(edited)
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<323-Oct-21 06:08 PM
im not saying you need to browse it daily but you should at least be semi active
Brainy23-Oct-21 06:08 PM
I mean if the ban is any indication, then he was too active lmao
I guess the bigger question here is are we going to enforce 4Ch moderation policy on this server by proxy and gate people who are banned there (however transitory) from having a chance of entering this server, even if they are known to us and the community, and a known 4channer.(edited)
Stannic23-Oct-21 06:10 PM
Brainy23-Oct-21 06:12 PM
My attitude is if they're banned from 4chan, let them show us some evidence of that, and then at least try to work around that.
Otherwise we're adopting a harsher standard of vetting that unfairly discriminates against one person who happens to 1.) be known to us and 2.) be known to this community as a 4channer.
It looks extremely targeted.(edited)
Black Lily23-Oct-21 06:13 PM
As I recall wintermute left the discord because he got banned from /trash/
Stannic23-Oct-21 06:13 PM
Brainy23-Oct-21 06:13 PM
So you think it's unlikely he's banned across the whole site itself?(edited)
Stannic23-Oct-21 06:13 PM
what
that makes no fucking sens e
Black Lily23-Oct-21 06:14 PM
He's a sperg
Brainy23-Oct-21 06:14 PM
This is why I suggest we ask for evidence they are banned. Then we have some idea of how disadvantaged they are or if they're just lazy and bullshitting.
Black Lily23-Oct-21 06:15 PM
I don't doubt that he's banned
Brainy23-Oct-21 06:17 PM
Well if we want to be absolutely sure, or set a precedence for others later, we could always require they provide some kind of Gyazo gif of what they see when they try to hit the site.
Stannic23-Oct-21 06:17 PM
oh hey the thread isn't as bad as it was weeks ago
ExecutiveJackbotBOT23-Oct-21 06:17 PM
Das racist
Black Lily23-Oct-21 06:18 PM
We have a dedicated jannie cleaning it up now
Stannic23-Oct-21 06:18 PM
nice
week after 9/11 was a shit show and i stopped visiting
ExecutiveJackbotBOT23-Oct-21 06:19 PM
GAMER???
Black Lily23-Oct-21 06:22 PM
It's a hell of a lot better now
Stannic23-Oct-21 06:22 PM
Absolutely
Black Lily23-Oct-21 06:23 PM
Pluss the usual shit flingers complain about being banned in vrc all the time
Stannic23-Oct-21 06:23 PM
they do?
Who the fuck is getting banned all the time in vrc now
Brainy23-Oct-21 06:23 PM
Dot
Stannic23-Oct-21 06:23 PM
Oh that's a given
Brainy23-Oct-21 06:23 PM
Black Lily23-Oct-21 06:23 PM
Banned from 4chan
Complain about it in vrc
Brainy23-Oct-21 06:24 PM
Could we do an additional vote to this one?
I think all of us can agree the current vote should ultimately be 'yes'.
The issue is if people are legitimately impeded from vetting via thread number.
Black Lily23-Oct-21 06:25 PM
They shouldn't have gotten banned then
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Brainy23-Oct-21 06:26 PM
Could we do an additional vote? Something like, "allow for vetting by alternative means if user can show they are currently banned from 4chan"?
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<323-Oct-21 06:26 PM
again the way i see it if you cant access 4chan how can you be "4chan"
Brainy23-Oct-21 06:27 PM
The ban could be indefinite or temporary
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<323-Oct-21 06:27 PM
then when you ban is over join then
if its a perma ban change your ip or don't get banned in the first place
Brainy23-Oct-21 06:28 PM
I mean people literally get banned just for off-topic posting and shit like that.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<323-Oct-21 06:28 PM
not from the whole site
and not a perma ban
Black Lily23-Oct-21 06:28 PM
I can still see the thread when I'm banned for off-topic
Brainy23-Oct-21 06:28 PM
Does he know it's perma?
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<323-Oct-21 06:29 PM
it tells
you
everythime ive been banned its just been banned from posting
and ive always still been able to see shit
Brainy23-Oct-21 06:29 PM
It's possible to get permabanned just for making a joke like, "I'm 12".
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<323-Oct-21 06:30 PM
if you are dumb enough to do that
then I don't know what to tell you
Brainy23-Oct-21 06:30 PM
Believe me, so many people are dumb enough to do that, in part because of meme.
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<323-Oct-21 06:30 PM
even then it would be a 6 year ban(edited)
Brainy23-Oct-21 06:30 PM
They don't realize it violates COPPA and means permaban.
No, it's perma.
Not 6 year.
Black Lily23-Oct-21 06:31 PM
Did he get banned for posting cp
Brainy23-Oct-21 06:31 PM
I wouldn't accuse anyone of that without evidence
That or some legitimate suspicion of it
Do you have reason to believe that?
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<323-Oct-21 06:32 PM
usually bans are only like 3 days anyways
Black Lily23-Oct-21 06:33 PM
>banned from /trash/
Brainy23-Oct-21 06:33 PM
If he's the type to post that
Brainy
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#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<323-Oct-21 06:33 PM
the one you pisted they said they were underage and its 30days
to ge tperma banned you kinda have to really fuck up
also
Brainy23-Oct-21 06:33 PM
Global means across all of 4chan
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<323-Oct-21 06:33 PM
change your ip
Brainy23-Oct-21 06:34 PM
It says 30 days, but I'm 99.9% confident it's perma(edited)
Otherwise they're violating COPPA
What (I think) they remove is the range(edited)
But if they have identified by other factors, those (should) remain banned.(edited)
They don't want to ban an entire range if they don't have to for any longer than 30 days.
Because that could affect a lot of people.
Ultimately though I don't know what their distinction is since I'm not a 4chan mod.
So like this, I have no idea if n/a length means indefinite / perma.
Dal29023-Oct-21 06:44 PM
I think the issue is people are concerned about this server inflating with people whos sole interest is sucking toes or playing rust in the vc's and shit but they don't want to say it like that.
People are slipping in that should have been vetted properly because as we discovered with somebody like some in the past, vetting is beyond important
Do we consider people good let them in kind of 4chan if they are getting banned and shitposting petty types
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3
and if you are banned from /vg/ then how can you expect to be apart of a /vg/ group
Krial23-Oct-21 06:50 PM
Uhh I’m banned currently
Brainy23-Oct-21 06:50 PM
RE: Dal
Yeah this is why I voted 'yes' on the current vote. The general sentiment there makes sense and so does the vetting for the reasons you mentioned. Basically I do not disagree with this at all.
I just don't think we should be uncompromising towards people we know to be 4chan who may have been banned from 4chan, permanently or temporary.
All I'm suggesting is that we put it up to vote whether in such a scenario, someone can provide us with evidence of their ban (and the reason -- if this is always communicated to them, as has been claimed), so we can go from there in vetting them.(edited)
Krial23-Oct-21 06:51 PM
If you get global rule 3 it blocks you from all boards etc
Krial
If you get global rule 3 it blocks you from all boards etc
Brainy23-Oct-21 06:51 PM
Thank you for clarifying this. I wanted to say it did, but I didn't know for sure / couldn't say for sure.(edited)
Perrine23-Oct-21 06:53 PM
wait, did 4chan change how it does bans?
Dal29023-Oct-21 06:53 PM
Think the thread has been rotted out through and through from evading spergs and shitposting types, I am not sure fighting for the rights of retards who get banned is a comfy subject for me, but I guess yeah withholding judgement and taking a look is a thingy. We are going to have to revisit the subject of kicking out dramamongers who join and leave just to shit and also happen to get banned right now.
Perrine23-Oct-21 06:53 PM
last I recall, bans just prevent posting
Perrine
last I recall, bans just prevent posting
Brainy23-Oct-21 06:53 PM
It depends on what you're banned for
Perrine
last I recall, bans just prevent posting
Dal29023-Oct-21 06:53 PM
That's what I thought
Azuth23-Oct-21 06:54 PM
I've always still been able to view threads when banned
Krial23-Oct-21 06:54 PM
I can’t recall tbh
Dal290
Think the thread has been rotted out through and through from evading spergs and shitposting types, I am not sure fighting for the rights of retards who get banned is a comfy subject for me, but I guess yeah withholding judgement and taking a look is a thingy. We are going to have to revisit the subject of kicking out dramamongers who join and leave just to shit and also happen to get banned right now.
Stannic23-Oct-21 06:54 PM
here's my take: GIBBOUS JANNIE STATUS OR I 9/11 YOUR HARD DRIVE WITH SUPER HACKING SKILLZ
Krial23-Oct-21 06:54 PM
Also voting no
Seems autism to vet people over and over again every single time they pop a melty and leave or leave for other various reasons.
Don’t wanna waste their or my own time to prove a point
Krial
Seems autism to vet people over and over again every single time they pop a melty and leave or leave for other various reasons.
(Not that it matters I’m in the minority here regardless)
Dal29023-Oct-21 06:56 PM
Its the slipping past the cracks thing rather then revetting the same individuals
Because people's interpretation of "known" varies wildly
I "know" cool dude, but he has personally admitted to me at least a dozen times he doesn't care about 4chan
If I want to, I can vet him and say fuck you guys
Krial23-Oct-21 06:57 PM
That’s on the retard letting him in
And if he’s saying he hates 4chan he should be instantly kicked anyways.
Dal29023-Oct-21 06:57 PM
Kiu has openly admitted he found this discord by googling vr community and found it
He is still here
People are afraid to confront, cull, or curate, so gatekeeping responsibly is the best option
Brainy23-Oct-21 06:58 PM
I mean all of that is well and fine. The issue here is in this specific instance we're imposing gatekeeping conditions on someone we know to be 4Chan while giving them only one avenue of vetting which they may not be able to do (thread).
That person is also being very honest about their situation.
Krial23-Oct-21 06:59 PM
Aight but if it passes make an announcement or I’ll do it or whatever
Nah ban one is an easy fix
Have them post a pic of their ban
Wham bam done
Brainy23-Oct-21 06:59 PM
I feel like we're mixing up two different circumstances here.
The sentiment / attitude is that we need better vetting to keep out people who aren't 4Chan. But the circumstance in which we're vocalizing and voting on this involves someone we all know to be 4Chan who is being denied any alternative way to be vetted, which seems unfair.(edited)
Stannic23-Oct-21 07:00 PM
ITS POLITICS BAYBEY
CHOOSE YOUR BI-PARTISAN POLITICAL PARTIES AND START FILIBUSTERING
Brainy23-Oct-21 07:00 PM
Considering people are known to get banned (temporarily or permanently), shouldn't we have some process for handling this situation?
Krial23-Oct-21 07:00 PM
How are we denying anyone anything
Are y’all talking about not letting people in who were banned?
Krial
How are we denying anyone anything
Brainy23-Oct-21 07:01 PM
They're saying he needs to provide the thread number when he can't get the thread number.
Krial23-Oct-21 07:01 PM
That’s very dumb if so
Dal29023-Oct-21 07:01 PM
Nah its the they were not vetted at all just let back in
Krial23-Oct-21 07:01 PM
That’s what I’m saying, if you can’t get thread number due to ban just post a picture of your ban screen
Easy
Krial
That’s what I’m saying, if you can’t get thread number due to ban just post a picture of your ban screen
Brainy23-Oct-21 07:01 PM
This is exactly what I've been suggesting and being denied on vehemently.
I'm saying, let's put up a vote on it.
Krial23-Oct-21 07:02 PM
I’m not 100% sure you can’t see threads when banned but idk
Brainy23-Oct-21 07:02 PM
Since this situation is unique and separate from the issue of vetting ultimately.
Krial23-Oct-21 07:02 PM
I think globals prevent you from viewing anything
But I’m not positive
Dal29023-Oct-21 07:02 PM
I am pretty sure you can see when banned
Brainy23-Oct-21 07:02 PM
That's why we ask for evidence / proof.
Let's see what he's seeing when he hits the site.
Krial23-Oct-21 07:02 PM
Wintermute prolly unbanned by now
His ban was almost up
Brainy23-Oct-21 07:02 PM
This also will (allegedly) allow us to see the ban reason. Which, if it's really bad, we may decide to deny him anyways.
Krial23-Oct-21 07:03 PM
I’m pretty sure he was encouraging suicide
Also going by ban screen reasons is a bad call
Plenty of ISP’s get range banned for CP
Brainy23-Oct-21 07:03 PM
Yeah that's what I'm worried about.
Krial23-Oct-21 07:03 PM
And anyone with a brain will just evade to hide really bad shit we may deny over
Dal29023-Oct-21 07:04 PM
I am not sure we even need to vote on that, that just sounds like common sense from this point forward, if they claim to be banned and can't get to the thread for whatever reason, just ask and see what's up
Brainy23-Oct-21 07:04 PM
I don't want us allowing someone in who has been banned for CSAM anywhere.
Krial23-Oct-21 07:04 PM
Issue is no one actually banned for cp is going to show that shit
Dal29023-Oct-21 07:04 PM
Considering how loose vetting is in general even if we do vote on it I doubt people will follow that route depending on who responds
Brainy23-Oct-21 07:04 PM
But in many cases the ban reason could be harmless.
Dal290
Kiu has openly admitted he found this discord by googling vr community and found it
Black Lily23-Oct-21 07:05 PM
Part of this is because he fits in and understands the culture
Black Lily
Part of this is because he fits in and understands the culture
Dal29023-Oct-21 07:05 PM
Fitting in or not its a neat oversight, we are lettin it happen, if we vote to revet, would he pass
Stannic23-Oct-21 07:06 PM
Dal290
Kiu has openly admitted he found this discord by googling vr community and found it
Azuth23-Oct-21 07:08 PM
Azuth
Dal29023-Oct-21 07:08 PM
It was in feedback ages ago, people who were there when it happened know
Azuth23-Oct-21 07:09 PM
I was more wondering if we can delist the steam group from google
Dal29023-Oct-21 07:09 PM
Link was yubucord too it was strange
Azuth23-Oct-21 07:09 PM
huh
Dal29023-Oct-21 07:22 PM
I think what we can all agree to, is ban all diaperposters
Black Lily23-Oct-21 07:23 PM
Poor Nynapi
Mumu from NYC23-Oct-21 11:04 PM
Should make it harder to rejoin the server everytime someone has a meltie and leaves
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Stannic24-Oct-21 03:09 PM
how long will it take people to notice bot-spam is above nsfw-chat
Stannic
how long will it take people to notice bot-spam is above nsfw-chat
🔇24-Oct-21 05:32 PM
they noticed it before you posted
Mumu from NYC24-Oct-21 05:56 PM
🔇
they noticed it before you posted
Stannic24-Oct-21 06:19 PM
Distoibed25-Oct-21 05:37 AM
Didn't we kick "pik" before ?
Mumu from NYC25-Oct-21 05:50 AM
Sounds familiar
Distoibed25-Oct-21 05:55 AM
cus this was posted couple of hours ago
Mumu from NYC25-Oct-21 05:56 AM
I don't get it
Distoibed25-Oct-21 05:59 AM
no I mean
I thought we kicked the dude for being malicious/anti vrg
Black Lily25-Oct-21 06:11 AM
There's two of them
One k is a different person @Distoibed
Distoibed25-Oct-21 06:12 AM
people need to get better names
Black Lily25-Oct-21 06:15 AM
Not everyone can be as cool and original as Distoibed
Krial25-Oct-21 06:16 AM
@Distoibed@Black Lily can one of yall kick pen
he passed out
Krial
@Distoibed@Black Lily can one of yall kick pen
Distoibed25-Oct-21 06:16 AM
penumbra?
aah, from chat
Krial25-Oct-21 06:16 AM
voicecall
ya
Distoibed25-Oct-21 06:16 AM
done
Krial25-Oct-21 06:16 AM
ty
Black Lily25-Oct-21 06:16 AM
That's his home
How could you
Krial25-Oct-21 06:16 AM
we were watchinh shit n vr
and he asleep hardcore
Black Lily25-Oct-21 06:17 AM
Should I get the baby yoda toothpaste
Black Lily
Should I get the baby yoda toothpaste
Stannic25-Oct-21 10:33 AM
yes
Dal29025-Oct-21 11:46 AM
Also if you have seen Chrissy in any related discords their account is compromised
They have been dming a lot of /vrg/ people so watch your ass too
Distoibed25-Oct-21 11:54 AM
Chrissy...
Same rings something
Does hé change his vrc name often?
Dal29025-Oct-21 01:10 PM
Gumii's account got compromised as well
Distoibed25-Oct-21 01:18 PM
shady link clickers...
Perrine25-Oct-21 01:32 PM
how do people even
stop reusing passwords
Distoibed25-Oct-21 01:34 PM
I think people are getting their credentials yoinked by .exes or links
idk how, call me stupid or something, but idk how it's happening, but it is
Mumu from NYC25-Oct-21 02:06 PM
just get 2fa laaaaaaaawl
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<325-Oct-21 02:22 PM
just dont click links lmao
or use linux if you are autistic like that
Brainy25-Oct-21 05:43 PM
I used to run popular TF2 servers back in the days when hat collecting was as big as CS:GO skin collecting now.
Literally every. Freaking. Month. There was yet another variation of "LOL LMAO Bro you gotta see this XD [hyperlink]" circulating through people's Steam Friend lists that was compromising people.
I was always told to make announcements warning the community because there would always be X morons affected even though it wasn't "hacking", it was phishing.
It was always some copypasta variation and at that point it's like... How do you keep falling for this? HOW?!
Normally when this stuff happens I just point and laugh, but if they are getting better, I feel the need to inform the new development
since everybody knows not to click shady links to get something, but now this will be the new norm.
Normally when this stuff happens I just point and laugh, but if they are getting better, I feel the need to inform the new development
since everybody knows not to click shady links to get something, but now this will be the new norm.
Brainy25-Oct-21 06:50 PM
They're not "getting better" is the hilarious part. All they're doing is changing up the copypasta. It's always some shit like, "LUL look at this XD XD Xd" and people fall for it and click it because they think it's their friend sending them lulzy link
Stannic25-Oct-21 07:12 PM
just remind them of youareanidiot.org
or back during xp era when adware and worms were rampant
Krial26-Oct-21 04:08 AM
@mod any complaints about me typing up an announcement post that we’re revetting anyone who comes in and out to prevent accusations of favoritism or spoon feeding
/u/GemManBad26-Oct-21 04:09 AM
just make sure its worded correctly
ExecutiveJackbotBOT26-Oct-21 04:09 AM
I'm crying RN
Distoibed26-Oct-21 04:10 AM
If you told people to actually send you IRL hotpockets to bribe you, would some people actually do it?
Krial26-Oct-21 04:10 AM
Ok
@/u/GemManBad
ExecutiveJackbotBOT26-Oct-21 04:12 AM
I'm crying RN
Krial26-Oct-21 04:12 AM
Good?
ExecutiveJackbotBOT26-Oct-21 04:12 AM
I'm crying RN
Krial26-Oct-21 04:12 AM
So it doesnt get deleted lol
ExecutiveJackbotBOT26-Oct-21 04:12 AM
GAMER???
Distoibed
If you told people to actually send you IRL hotpockets to bribe you, would some people actually do it?
🔇26-Oct-21 04:43 AM
Yes. But I’ve sent azuth hot pockets for him to do his job before. (:
Azuth26-Oct-21 05:07 AM
it's the only reason I became a mod
./a.out26-Oct-21 09:35 AM
If y'all want I'll be the one to kick Orb. If he gon' pretend, then he gon' find out, plus i'm used to him yelling in my dm's so it'll be nothin new lol
./a.out
If y'all want I'll be the one to kick Orb. If he gon' pretend, then he gon' find out, plus i'm used to him yelling in my dm's so it'll be nothin new lol
Distoibed26-Oct-21 09:38 AM
Go ahead :)
./a.out26-Oct-21 09:38 AM
Roger
Distoibed26-Oct-21 09:47 AM
unclean when :^)(edited)
./a.out26-Oct-21 10:22 AM
Lmao. If he keeps comin back and doin the same shit I'll throw him in unclean(edited)
Stannic26-Oct-21 11:42 AM
is this orb's way of rebelling
Distoibed26-Oct-21 11:49 AM
Nah
He's just testing
Stannic26-Oct-21 11:49 AM
o
as he always does
./a.out26-Oct-21 12:25 PM
Yea. He means no harm, this is textbook orb
Black Lily27-Oct-21 03:22 AM
@Krial I think it was some kind of bot or scam account
Krial27-Oct-21 03:22 AM
Same
All the “accounts”
Had bo posts or anything
The steam looked kind of real
Black Lily27-Oct-21 03:23 AM
There's tons of bot generated steam accounts
Or could have been an account they stole
Brainy27-Oct-21 08:06 PM
This should be easy enough to answer right? At the very least tg?
Black Lily27-Oct-21 08:06 PM
He basically already said /tg/
Brainy27-Oct-21 08:06 PM
That or /qst/?
Oh okay, so saying he browses "tabletop threads" is enough, I'm probably being too pedantic asking the boards?(edited)
So at this point would it just be safe to approve and give him roles? Nothing really stands out in his profile to me?
Never vetted a person before and I want to know I'm doing this right.
Black Lily27-Oct-21 08:18 PM
I prefer people actually name the board
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We've had a handful of people that don't even know what a board is
./a.out27-Oct-21 08:45 PM
Yea, im with lily on that
/u/GemManBad27-Oct-21 09:12 PM
favorite board
a joke from years back
anything that requires a certain amount of time on 4chin to know
Krial27-Oct-21 09:47 PM
If he can’t name em fa/tg/uy then I stay kick em
Sneaky feeling this guys full of shit
Pineapples27-Oct-21 09:50 PM
One thing that can help to catch people off guard is to just ask "what headset do you have?" rather than VR headset. Sometimes it gets people who aren't even aware this place is for VR and they say they have a Razer Kraken or whatever.
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Also generally just avoiding asking simple yes/no questions, questions with possible responses in the question itself(Rift, Vive, etc.). Anything that they don't have to come up with the answer.
Krial27-Oct-21 09:53 PM
Caught him.
@Black Lily thoughts
Black Lily27-Oct-21 09:57 PM
Sisters of battle are based
Seems like he's a newfag but I think he does actually browse
Krial27-Oct-21 09:59 PM
Aight
Stannic27-Oct-21 10:19 PM
he's got one of my friends from teeg as a friend
they're probably one of those weird ones from that friend group that still uses emotes and didn't absorb any of the 4chan stuff
Krial
@Black Lily thoughts
Stannic27-Oct-21 10:23 PM
yeah
he's one of those odd ass mfers
Mumu from NYC27-Oct-21 10:44 PM
ask the next person what 25+25 is
Pineapples
Also generally just avoiding asking simple yes/no questions, questions with possible responses in the question itself(Rift, Vive, etc.). Anything that they don't have to come up with the answer.
Brainy28-Oct-21 12:44 AM
Good to know, I was literally leading him on with those questions then. Just going to go with "what headset do you have" next time.
Pineapples28-Oct-21 12:46 AM
I've never really thought about how many little things we've learnt to do with vetting over the years... It's not particularly complicated, but there are still a lot of tiny things like that which aren't very obvious until you've been doing it a while or at least closely watching others.
Brainy28-Oct-21 12:48 AM
Yeah once you mentioned it, I realized how just that small difference in wording could trip somebody up. Pretty clever
Pineapples28-Oct-21 12:58 AM
Mhm. I think when we were figuring this all out there were people who'd just answer yes, pick one of the headsets listed in the question, etc.. Now we're more vague so the questions only make sense if you know what this place is.
Dal29028-Oct-21 01:01 AM
So avoid handing them the answers
simple as
Distoibed28-Oct-21 01:02 AM
Could also ask them who this handsome fellow is
Dal29028-Oct-21 01:02 AM
Is that the guy who created facebook
Dal290
Is that the guy who created facebook
Distoibed28-Oct-21 01:05 AM
Who the fuck is Tom Anderson
June28-Oct-21 01:17 AM
Smh
Dal290
Is that the guy who created facebook
Brainy28-Oct-21 01:27 AM
Nah it's Lowtax
Distoibed
Could also ask them who this handsome fellow is
Perrine28-Oct-21 02:06 AM
Is this
Dammit
I just noticed someone already said lowtax
Krial28-Oct-21 02:29 AM
@🔇
are u alive
🔇28-Oct-21 02:29 AM
Krial28-Oct-21 02:29 AM
give ability to remove ppl from voice plz
kthxs(edited)
🔇28-Oct-21 02:30 AM
why?
Krial28-Oct-21 02:30 AM
i need to clean up snoozers
ty
🔇28-Oct-21 02:34 AM
Black Lily28-Oct-21 02:36 AM
Why are they sleeping
Black Lily
Why are they sleeping
Krial28-Oct-21 02:42 AM
we watched show
Pineapples28-Oct-21 03:15 AM
What's wrong with them being there if they're just asleep?
Krial28-Oct-21 03:18 AM
pen works super early and people will literally scream to ruin their sleep
lol
Brainy28-Oct-21 03:26 AM
Dang I wanna watch shows on here
Pineapples28-Oct-21 03:26 AM
Sounds like their problem, honestly.
Brainy28-Oct-21 03:26 AM
Can mods do it?
June28-Oct-21 03:26 AM
just disconnect
ye
join, right click a person and hit disconnect
Brainy28-Oct-21 03:27 AM
I can do it, which person?
Krial28-Oct-21 03:27 AM
I already did it
lol its fine
Brainy28-Oct-21 03:27 AM
Ohh okie
Krial28-Oct-21 03:27 AM
pen normally just passes out when we watch tv
so its nice to kick him to sleep
Brainy28-Oct-21 03:27 AM
What you watch?
Krial28-Oct-21 03:27 AM
we were watching sweet home
Brainy28-Oct-21 03:28 AM
Ohh what I loved that show!!
That's the Korean zombie one right?
They better do a second season
Dal29028-Oct-21 03:52 PM
I think an optimal idea would be, change the intro question to "where do you think you are"
posted a crasher into pics so I was surprised he could post there
June
posted a crasher into pics so I was surprised he could post there
Krial29-Oct-21 01:23 AM
Lmao got em
Hahahah
June29-Oct-21 01:27 AM
I knew what it was, clicked it to be sure
Black Lily29-Oct-21 11:52 PM
Reading through the messages in #the-unclean about kITE, I think it's about time we decided to ban him or not.
Stannic29-Oct-21 11:53 PM
Well
This kinda discussion should be for tomorrow afternoon
Black Lily29-Oct-21 11:55 PM
My afternoon is now
Stannic29-Oct-21 11:56 PM
Oh
Seems similar as the Carl issue
Distoibed29-Oct-21 11:57 PM
The yuropeon opinion would declare that his presence in the discord is merely for the amusements of others(edited)
Stannic29-Oct-21 11:57 PM
There’s no amusement when the winning card is just to call him a groomer and pedo
Distoibed29-Oct-21 11:58 PM
his outrages and meltys can be fun to observe
Stannic29-Oct-21 11:59 PM
Yeah but the whole time he’s here I haven’t seen him burst into a rage and try to artistically deduce someone’s argument into something else
Black Lily30-Oct-21 12:00 AM
kITE mostly just makes assumptions about people and makes fun of his delusion of them
Stannic30-Oct-21 12:00 AM
Yep
As far as I know he doesn’t want to be here anyways and the reason why he came around was to cover face when the 911 event happened.
Black Lily30-Oct-21 12:02 AM
Because he's only of the few people that still associate with mamamad
Distoibed30-Oct-21 12:02 AM
ohyeah, for aslong as I've seen him he hates vrg but can't find another vr community
Stannic30-Oct-21 12:02 AM
^
Black Lily30-Oct-21 12:02 AM
And thinks she's some kind of genius
Stannic30-Oct-21 12:03 AM
He also was circlejerking with the others back in the last discord about how much vrg sucks
Black Lily30-Oct-21 12:03 AM
He gets kicked out of any other communities and has his own
Stannic30-Oct-21 12:04 AM
as much as eva shitposts and does the trolling, he doesn't circlejerk with the others about how much he hates vrg
nor did he try to do irl death threats
Distoibed30-Oct-21 12:05 AM
eva's just a keyboard warrior
Stannic30-Oct-21 12:05 AM
yeah
as far as my smol jannie mind says
cut losses and he'll fuck off back to his own groups
and/or k3rn will figure out eventually and start complaining about it in feedback because he's 4chan
Black Lily30-Oct-21 12:06 AM
kITE was spoonfed in by Aciil years ago
He never browsed before then
Stannic30-Oct-21 12:06 AM
LOL
well i guess start a mod-voting and then have a discussion
Krial30-Oct-21 12:07 AM
No reason to ban him
Stannic30-Oct-21 12:07 AM
i'd ban him for being a disgusting groomer and pedo but that's me
Distoibed30-Oct-21 12:07 AM
imma doze off cus I binged an entire night on lsd and I'm physically breaking down rn
you guys carry on
Stannic30-Oct-21 12:09 AM
i guess 48 hour vote and let others decide
I obviously hate him and hope he gets hanged, drawn and quartered for being a shit human being
Distoibed30-Oct-21 12:10 AM
Then I'd guess your best action would be to sit back on this one
Stannic30-Oct-21 12:10 AM
yep
Black Lily30-Oct-21 12:12 AM
I think it's a stretch to call him a pedo since he never tried to fuck her when she was underage
As far as I know
Stannic30-Oct-21 12:13 AM
eh
i still hate him so i'll sit this one out
Black Lily30-Oct-21 12:13 AM
I'm mostly just suggesting we ban him because all he does is sperg about how much he hates people and /vrg/
Stannic30-Oct-21 12:14 AM
As far as I know, he's as much as a keyboard warrior like Eva
So Krial is right in that there's no reason to ban him
and if he starts trying to get around people blocking him by getting someone else to message them then there's that punishment you guys did with eva with the kick
that's unbiased as I'll try to be
back to drinkie
./a.out30-Oct-21 10:02 AM
The way i see it, the man has a really bad reputation. He doesnt seem interested in having a good relationship with vrg and i would go as far to say most of vrg (that knows him) doesnt want a good relationship with him. Ergo, theres not much of a reason to have him here.
Dal29030-Oct-21 11:15 AM
I always thought he was harmless for the most part until the dating jailbait thing, all I see his conflict with him and people here, you know my answer to this kind of thing, lil more complicated, but simply put, yee aint a healthy engagement get him gone. If he earnestly cares, and this is an option we should have in the future, appeals are a thing we can and should do.
Brainy30-Oct-21 06:39 PM
23 alerts
I don't know the story. Do we have reasonable basis to suspect him of engaging in grooming or any behavior like that?
Doesn't need to be here -- it can be in VRChat.
Are people just shitting on him in other words, or is there more to it than that?
Krial30-Oct-21 06:43 PM
He was dating some underage girl years back
Dal290
I always thought he was harmless for the most part until the dating jailbait thing, all I see his conflict with him and people here, you know my answer to this kind of thing, lil more complicated, but simply put, yee aint a healthy engagement get him gone. If he earnestly cares, and this is an option we should have in the future, appeals are a thing we can and should do.
Brainy30-Oct-21 06:43 PM
Could you elaborate on this story?
Krial30-Oct-21 06:43 PM
Pretty sure he doesn’t now I think I dunno how old he was when it happened
Brainy30-Oct-21 06:43 PM
Did he admit to it? I take it he was an adult at the time?
When you say underage do you mean under 13, or a minor?
Krial30-Oct-21 06:43 PM
Tbqh I don’t know how old kite even is
Like a 17 year old I. Think
Brainy30-Oct-21 06:44 PM
Oh wait I think I remember hearing about this. Didn't she try to get into VRG too?
That or another girl who was a minor tried to get in here from knowing him?
Krial30-Oct-21 06:44 PM
Nah some girl tried to join that knows him but she wasn’t underage
Brainy30-Oct-21 06:44 PM
Ah okay, that's good to know.
Krial30-Oct-21 06:44 PM
She was just a schizo
Brainy30-Oct-21 06:44 PM
Did he admit to dating a minor when he was an adult?
Yeah she was who I was thinking of lmao
Krial30-Oct-21 06:45 PM
Idk. Was before my time
@Dal290 would know
Brainy30-Oct-21 06:45 PM
Same here, I only just remember hearing stories about this (I think from Rak)?
Dal29030-Oct-21 06:45 PM
I'll explain over call real quick if you got a moment, out and about
Brainy30-Oct-21 06:46 PM
Yeah, could you call me if it's not too much trouble?
Black Lily30-Oct-21 07:05 PM
She was 16 and he was 22
kITE is about a month older than me
Brainy30-Oct-21 07:06 PM
Yeah we're discussing this now over voice and I'm really strongly agreeing we should remove them
Black Lily30-Oct-21 07:07 PM
She's already banned from here
Brainy30-Oct-21 07:08 PM
No I mean the guy
Black Lily30-Oct-21 07:08 PM
kITE yeah
Brainy30-Oct-21 07:08 PM
Ohhh I thought he was still on here
Black Lily30-Oct-21 07:09 PM
He left the other day after bote called him a child groomer
When he was shitting on onion for no reason
Stannic30-Oct-21 08:44 PM
>all those fucking botes
jesus fucking christ
Black Lily30-Oct-21 08:45 PM
Should probably clear them
I think that shit is over with now
Black Lily30-Oct-21 09:02 PM
Also @mod@jannie#mod-voting
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Guno30-Oct-21 09:04 PM
Yeah gonna vote yes, same as dal was mostly fine with him until the GF, then it became weird
Brainy30-Oct-21 09:04 PM
Same here
Guno30-Oct-21 09:05 PM
he was one of the few people I felt compelled to actually mute in voice back when we had busier voice, cause he was basically the only person to mic spam(edited)
Perrine31-Oct-21 01:10 AM
I have been informed that the reason I don't know kite is that he's the only person on my block list and I blocked him within 2 minutes of meeting him
I have voted
Black Lily31-Oct-21 01:36 AM
Damn
I remember at one point over a third of /vrg/ had him blocked
Stannic31-Oct-21 02:56 AM
dayum son
that's one hell of a fucking vote
./a.out31-Oct-21 02:58 AM
He is the longest running person on my block list
Black Lily31-Oct-21 03:15 AM
Lunathebluepony is mine
Black Lily31-Oct-21 07:46 AM
All but two people voted so I'll just call it now
rip kITE
Krial31-Oct-21 07:50 AM
rip
gone but not forgotten
Black Lily31-Oct-21 07:51 AM
White lily noticed instantly(edited)
Azuth31-Oct-21 07:55 AM
who let orb in?
Black Lily31-Oct-21 07:55 AM
June did
Distoibed31-Oct-21 07:56 AM
ffs
./a.out31-Oct-21 08:50 AM
and with that, orb's plan succeeded
June31-Oct-21 10:27 AM
he posted numbers :^)
Mumu from NYC31-Oct-21 10:28 AM
Azuth31-Oct-21 11:00 AM
wrong numbers tho
Azuth31-Oct-21 11:22 AM
and still no headset verification
June31-Oct-21 06:08 PM
The beatings will continue until moral improves
Black Lily31-Oct-21 06:11 PM
The password is hunter2
Black Lily
The password is hunter2
Perrine31-Oct-21 07:10 PM
you can go hunter2 my hunter2-ing hunter2
Krial31-Oct-21 08:33 PM
Just leave em in there a week
Pineapples31-Oct-21 09:19 PM
You talking about Orb? Yeah, I figured I'd let him out after a couple of weeks or something.
Pineapples
You talking about Orb? Yeah, I figured I'd let him out after a couple of weeks or something.
🔇31-Oct-21 10:38 PM
You’ll have to remind me to remove him from the unclean list. I don’t think there’s an option to remove people from the list using commands rn.
jackbot responded in #the-unclean but posted the list here
./a.out01-Nov-21 12:12 AM
I originally set unclean related commands get posted only in the unclean channel, but then figured printing the lists only to the unclean channel would be tedious, so i set it so he posts the list wherever you give the command, and it seems i never changed his reply to do the same lol
As for removing someone from the unclean list, there isnt one atm, but i can make a command for that
🔇01-Nov-21 12:15 AM
i dont think its a big deal, ill just delete it if needed
Black Lily01-Nov-21 12:16 AM
*clean
Pineapples01-Nov-21 12:25 AM
Just a heads up, removed FW and Vaunn's posting permissions for #movies. FW posted a random shitpost video and pinged the movie role, I warned him to keep that shit out of the channel, then both he and Vaunn posted random shit in there.
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Also removed those messages to keep things clean.
🔇01-Nov-21 12:51 AM
June01-Nov-21 01:20 AM
perfect
Black Lily01-Nov-21 01:27 AM
Fucking Tiger
Pineapples01-Nov-21 01:28 AM
The best part is he wouldn't even have to check the thread, there's obviously going to be shit going on for halloween.
June01-Nov-21 01:29 AM
yup
just have to go to the thread or ingame once and ask
🔇01-Nov-21 01:29 AM
just existing would have let you know
Black Lily01-Nov-21 01:30 AM
But he doesn't browse the thread
And he doesn't go to meetups
ExecutiveJackbotBOT01-Nov-21 01:31 AM
I'm crying RN
Black Lily01-Nov-21 01:33 AM
I doubt he even browses 4chan
Brainy01-Nov-21 03:51 AM
How hard is it to just check the thread FFS
Especially on Halloween when literally everyone will be talking about it?
🔇01-Nov-21 03:57 AM
It’s been in the op for two weeks.
Black Lily
Fucking Tiger
Distoibed01-Nov-21 04:04 AM
Hilarious
June01-Nov-21 04:05 AM
literal fucking joke
Dal29001-Nov-21 04:09 AM
Black Lily01-Nov-21 04:11 AM
But I'm just being petty
Distoibed01-Nov-21 04:24 AM
Kinda funny that he missed all of them
Black Lily01-Nov-21 04:33 AM
Apparently the only reason he ever showed up for major holiday events is because he saw an announcement about it in the discord
Distoibed01-Nov-21 04:44 AM
Can't control+f "event" for 3 minutes in the thread
Checks discord constantly for announcements
it really do be like that
Distoibed01-Nov-21 08:24 AM
@Black Lily lmao
Oku invitéd him!?
Black Lily01-Nov-21 08:26 AM
Idk
Distoibed01-Nov-21 08:28 AM
Already giving me rando vibes
Black Lily01-Nov-21 08:40 AM
Might as well be a normie
Distoibed01-Nov-21 08:42 AM
Nah man, hé browsed 10 years ago
But honestly
He's already saying that hé wont use the thread
Black Lily01-Nov-21 08:44 AM
Or would you like to mess with him a bit @Distoibed
Distoibed01-Nov-21 08:44 AM
Nah
On bus
Black Lily01-Nov-21 08:44 AM
Very well
Distoibed01-Nov-21 08:44 AM
I'm here to ensure hé gets uncleaned
Can you unclean him?
Can't copy part of text
Black Lily01-Nov-21 08:46 AM
I got ya
Distoibed01-Nov-21 08:48 AM
I'm already preparing my >taking the discord seriously
For when comfy and oku start bitching
Black Lily01-Nov-21 08:48 AM
Was it even oku
I think he was talking about someone else
Distoibed01-Nov-21 08:51 AM
Okuumay
The dude who bitched when EU didn't have a groupphoto
Remember that tragedy?
Black Lily01-Nov-21 08:51 AM
They havn't been active since june
That was a different oku I think
Distoibed01-Nov-21 08:52 AM
Yeah
EU oku
Black Lily01-Nov-21 08:52 AM
Okuu#4218 I believe(edited)
There's two u's and this one oku#2825
The first one was the one that bitched about a group photo
Distoibed01-Nov-21 08:55 AM
Yeah
His vrcname is okumay
Black Lily01-Nov-21 08:56 AM
So he has two discords in here?
All these people with their shitting unoriginal names
How is mine unique when I stole it from the name of a song
Distoibed01-Nov-21 09:00 AM
I copied a band and changed a vowel
ExecutiveJackbotBOT01-Nov-21 12:54 PM
Das racist... wait no it's not
Stannic01-Nov-21 12:54 PM
i just like how it only takes one ctrl-f to find events in the thread and he can't make an effort to do that
Stannic
i just like how it only takes one ctrl-f to find events in the thread and he can't make an effort to do that
Distoibed01-Nov-21 01:19 PM
he told us before that he hates anonymity and the 4chan website layout
Stannic01-Nov-21 01:19 PM
oh okay
he can go back to twitter and cry about it on there
Distoibed01-Nov-21 01:20 PM
like Kiu :)
Stannic01-Nov-21 01:20 PM
(:
Azuth01-Nov-21 03:40 PM
Can shit like this be banworthy please
or at least a kick
Stannic01-Nov-21 03:41 PM
yes please
as much as i said i don't browse the thread for 2 months
i still browsed it before 9/11
this shit just spreads the whole "haha don't browse the thread it's shit" mentality
"just go to discord"
from what i browsed for the last month it's been nice
new jannie cleans shit up quick
Krial01-Nov-21 03:48 PM
I am 100% sure shonen is trolling
Stannic01-Nov-21 03:49 PM
Distoibed
he told us before that he hates anonymity and the 4chan website layout
Brainy01-Nov-21 04:06 PM
I mean it's one thing to hate the layout, but how can you hate anonymity when that's the whole point of the site? lol
Distoibed01-Nov-21 04:07 PM
he doesn't browse it
he got in while the security was nonexistent
Brainy01-Nov-21 04:07 PM
Reminds me of people who try to force using a name in threads when they post.
Yeah I just imagine he's one of those with that attitude lol
./a.out01-Nov-21 10:52 PM
T. Kenji
June01-Nov-21 10:55 PM
I couldnt post for two years on phone internet (range banned) and I still browsed more than them
Guno02-Nov-21 12:42 AM
I mostly only check whenever an interesting new game is coming out and such like that
Azuth02-Nov-21 01:42 PM
didn't even wait five minutes before showing his true intentions
Krial02-Nov-21 01:47 PM
GONE
oh wait
he's from trash
lol
i saw him posting earlier
June02-Nov-21 01:50 PM
eject(edited)
Krial02-Nov-21 01:51 PM
azuth do funny action post
lol
🔇02-Nov-21 01:52 PM
Stop giving people gay baby without removing their vrg role.
Krial02-Nov-21 01:54 PM
ok
also good morning @🔇
🔇02-Nov-21 01:55 PM
Good evening
Azuth02-Nov-21 01:55 PM
trash asset searcher or not, he passed vetting including knowing a /tv/ meme that wasn't Sneed or 4U
is wanting straight into the assetscord a kickable offense if they're obviously chan enough?
not like I'm vouching for him to get in there
Stannic02-Nov-21 01:58 PM
it follows what we had in mind
we could just make it a meme for people to call out people like these searching for the assetcord
Krial02-Nov-21 02:00 PM
he definitely browses
but still
asset seekers get fuck't
Stannic02-Nov-21 02:02 PM
you can also loophole it as soliciting and do mega mental gymnastics to say it's harassment
or make a rule about "if its not in the splintercords, don't fucking bother people about it"
but the last time we tried to add a rule it kinda took a while
ExecutiveJackbotBOT02-Nov-21 02:06 PM
Das racist... wait no it's not
June02-Nov-21 02:30 PM
I'm tempted to make a coomer role
Dal29002-Nov-21 02:35 PM
He joined shop and got chased off from a few waves
Krial
asset seekers get fuck't
Distoibed02-Nov-21 02:35 PM
how about a spite role?
Dal290
He joined shop and got chased off from a few waves
Mumu from NYC02-Nov-21 02:56 PM
based
June
I'm tempted to make a coomer role
Mumu from NYC02-Nov-21 02:57 PM
do it
🔇02-Nov-21 03:01 PM
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
June
I'm tempted to make a coomer role
Stannic02-Nov-21 03:22 PM
what would the coomer role even do
i thought that was the gaybaby role
that everyone embraced having
June02-Nov-21 03:32 PM
ye
its one for people that loose NNN
or are just being coomers
role has not perm settings, so feel free to put it on people being coomers
but dont over send it like gay baby which actually limits to nsfw chat
Distoibed02-Nov-21 03:40 PM
we should have an anti-nsfw role
June02-Nov-21 03:40 PM
yeah making that next
need a name for it
Christian ? wholesome-only?
im-pure
done, cant access nsfw-chat or pics
Stannic02-Nov-21 03:46 PM
nah childlock
June02-Nov-21 03:49 PM
k
@Stannic can you see nsfw-chat
Stannic02-Nov-21 03:50 PM
yes
because i'm a jannie
June02-Nov-21 03:50 PM
just made it higher than jannie
sec
ah, it has explicit jannie access
Distoibed02-Nov-21 03:51 PM
I got super restricted to nsfw-chat :)
June02-Nov-21 03:51 PM
what?
Distoibed02-Nov-21 03:53 PM
asked black lily to revoke my nsfw access
June02-Nov-21 03:54 PM
ohhh I gotcha
June02-Nov-21 04:55 PM
mkay
the whole explict role adds was stupid but I setup vrg-sfw to only be able to access normal categories, and not nsfw
so add vrg-sfw and remove normal vrg
June02-Nov-21 05:06 PM
okay wow
after testing with eva, no that shit doesnt work
I'm gonna redo the permissions on this server later because holy fuck they are so wrong
if you want to use that template, give me access to it
@🔇@Black Lily
🔇02-Nov-21 05:12 PM
I know the perms are fucked.
June02-Nov-21 05:12 PM
ya
I want to fix them
you use a template so I need to edit that if ur gonna keep using it to revive the server
🔇02-Nov-21 05:13 PM
You should be able to as a mod.
June02-Nov-21 05:13 PM
oh is it a sync from this to the template instead of the other way?
🔇02-Nov-21 05:13 PM
Yeah
June02-Nov-21 05:13 PM
mkay
🔇02-Nov-21 05:14 PM
When you use a discord template you have to create a new server. You can’t apply it the other way.
June02-Nov-21 05:14 PM
ah
I'm gonna move nsfw to its own nsfw category
has there been any issue with that in the past
@mod
🔇02-Nov-21 05:16 PM
@mod
@mod
June02-Nov-21 05:16 PM
@mod
that one
🔇02-Nov-21 05:16 PM
@mod@mod
June02-Nov-21 05:16 PM
why is there two
🔇02-Nov-21 05:17 PM
Lily is using the second one as admin
Distoibed02-Nov-21 05:17 PM
one is for lily to not be shown as a mod
I think
cus he gets shows as an user
June02-Nov-21 05:17 PM
yeah
#mod-voting
whats the 50% threshold?
10 votes?
🔇02-Nov-21 05:18 PM
Ye
June02-Nov-21 05:18 PM
k
@jannie@mod@mod#mod-voting
vote so I can continue un fucking permissions in the server
Dal29002-Nov-21 05:21 PM
Azuth02-Nov-21 05:21 PM
would it include all nsfw channels? #funposting and #retard-coliseum are both marked as nsfw too
June02-Nov-21 05:21 PM
just nsfw-chat and pics
Azuth02-Nov-21 05:21 PM
aight
June02-Nov-21 05:21 PM
optionally those two I guess, but lets save that for another time
would those being in there be better or worse azuth
Black Lily02-Nov-21 05:23 PM
Good morning
Dal29002-Nov-21 05:24 PM
Good morning sonic
Azuth02-Nov-21 05:25 PM
If the intention is to separate out the coomer channels but let nsfw shitposting happen in the other two, they shouldn't be included
June02-Nov-21 05:31 PM
Yeah, its to clean up the shitty permissions setup
adding them would help me, but I dont think people would like that
Distoibed
one is for lily to not be shown as a mod
Black Lily02-Nov-21 05:33 PM
I named them both mod to avoid retards complaining to admins to get things undone
1
June02-Nov-21 06:49 PM
uh I left that dead channel without perms to get back in lol
have to delete it with your role @Black Lily
🔇02-Nov-21 06:49 PM
Lol, probably need the server owner account instead tbh.
June02-Nov-21 06:50 PM
yeah lol
I love that you can just do that
🔇02-Nov-21 06:50 PM
It is supposed to warn you tho.
🔇
It is supposed to warn you tho.
Distoibed02-Nov-21 06:54 PM
it did when I did that
but my stupidity knows no boundaries
June02-Nov-21 06:56 PM
mkay I got it, I'll have to add a bot command though so brb
jannie getting updates finally
🔇02-Nov-21 06:57 PM
Lol
June
jannie getting updates finally
🔇02-Nov-21 06:58 PM
Except the bot has the same perms as you.
June02-Nov-21 06:58 PM
thats fine
not for the channel
for a new moderation action
🔇02-Nov-21 06:58 PM
Okay
June02-Nov-21 06:58 PM
Black Lily02-Nov-21 07:03 PM
I got it
June02-Nov-21 07:05 PM
thank you lily
Distoibed03-Nov-21 01:22 PM
Eva is asking when he's getting nsfw-chat perms back ( I know the answer, but I kinda still want a repsonse) @June
Mumu from NYC03-Nov-21 01:22 PM
right NOW
🔇03-Nov-21 01:31 PM
Never. He has nothing to contribute anywhere anyways.
Mumu from NYC03-Nov-21 01:32 PM
F
Distoibed
Eva is asking when he's getting nsfw-chat perms back ( I know the answer, but I kinda still want a repsonse) @June
June03-Nov-21 01:45 PM
He's never contributing anything other than posting one image and leaving
He's just salty because I've had him blocked for months, soon as I unblocked him he dm'd me a bunch
Distoibed03-Nov-21 01:47 PM
he really do be doing it to himself
Mumu from NYC03-Nov-21 01:47 PM
it is what it is
June03-Nov-21 07:02 PM
just doin a bit of admin abuse
I'll revert it when enough people bitch
Mumu from NYC03-Nov-21 07:21 PM
Distoibed03-Nov-21 07:26 PM
?
Nsfw chat?
June03-Nov-21 08:01 PM
ye
Black Lily04-Nov-21 03:00 AM
Aqo is my favorite lolcow
Dal29004-Nov-21 03:09 AM
I was literally just hearing about him from two people
Krial04-Nov-21 03:09 AM
Why is he a lolcow
what’d he do
Black Lily04-Nov-21 03:13 AM
Just read his messages in general
Krial04-Nov-21 03:13 AM
too lazy
Black Lily04-Nov-21 03:15 AM
The way he types pisses me off
He's super full of himself
Casually jerks himself off about how rich and successful he is
Krial04-Nov-21 03:16 AM
He’s rich
But not because of his own merit
He inherited a job because daddy Israel
Black Lily04-Nov-21 03:17 AM
But he's super lonely
Krial04-Nov-21 03:17 AM
Because no one his friend here
Who hangs out with aqo lol
Distoibed04-Nov-21 03:19 AM
Dude is not even that rich
40k savings
But yeah
He was cruel to liechty
And he's too full of himself
🔇04-Nov-21 03:21 AM
40k savings ain’t that much
Distoibed04-Nov-21 03:22 AM
Hé kept bragging about having too much money and not knowing what to do with it(edited)
🔇04-Nov-21 03:22 AM
only retards have that problem.
Krial04-Nov-21 03:30 AM
If he’s mean to liechty then I’ll pass
Krial
If he’s mean to liechty then I’ll pass
Black Lily04-Nov-21 03:53 AM
Why
Black Lily
Why
Krial04-Nov-21 03:55 AM
I like liechty
Black Lily04-Nov-21 03:56 AM
He's just train autist to me
Krial04-Nov-21 03:56 AM
He is very nice
The train thing is just a meme
Black Lily04-Nov-21 03:56 AM
But apparently aqo did something extremely cruel to liechty
Krial04-Nov-21 03:57 AM
Yeah then no thanks
I already had Israelis
Hate*
Black Lily04-Nov-21 03:58 AM
What about Solid and Wooven
Except I think they're Saudi
Krial04-Nov-21 04:00 AM
Solid is based as fuck
Wooven too
Krial
The train thing is just a meme
Distoibed04-Nov-21 04:21 AM
No, he has An actual monorail setup in his house
June04-Nov-21 04:24 AM
Black Lily04-Nov-21 04:27 AM
Heghog
Distoibed
No, he has An actual monorail setup in his house
Krial04-Nov-21 04:28 AM
Yeah but he’s more of a person than just train autist
He just likes trains a lot
Pineapples04-Nov-21 04:51 AM
Yeah, he doesn't just like trains, he also hates ze vomen.
Black Lily04-Nov-21 07:17 AM
@Jason we don't moderate #nsfw-chat
Jason04-Nov-21 07:17 AM
I did can remove it if you'd like
i don't care about diap posting i do care about spam though i suppose now posh is
Distoibed04-Nov-21 07:23 AM
the masses want us to moderate it in their ways
the moment we're restricting certain posts is the moment they want us to restrict it more
Jason04-Nov-21 07:23 AM
this abloobloo they want it to be a mess let them wallow in it mentality is gay
Pineapples04-Nov-21 07:23 AM
Yeah, I'm more inclined to just let him go at it and piss them off for getting exactly what they wanted.
Brainy04-Nov-21 07:23 AM
Do we allow diaperfur?
Oh dang discussion already happening, I'm late to the party
Jason04-Nov-21 07:24 AM
Stop throwing a fit cause people got fed up with constant fucking with nsfw chat and wanted it to be left alone
Brainy04-Nov-21 07:24 AM
Did we allow the twining or whatever that stuff was?
Where it stretches the urethra?
Jason04-Nov-21 07:24 AM
we do moderate it, there are 3 rules, we clearly wouldnt be fine with someone say, setting up a bot to constantly spam it
Pineapples04-Nov-21 07:24 AM
We usually deal with anyone who posts furry stuff repeatedly. But it's nsfw chat where everyone loves to go on about how great it being 'unmoderated' is so I prefer to let it burn while they all cry about it.
Brainy
Did we allow the twining or whatever that stuff was?
Distoibed04-Nov-21 07:24 AM
sounding
Distoibed
sounding
Brainy04-Nov-21 07:24 AM
Yeah this!
Do we still allow it?
Jason04-Nov-21 07:25 AM
i dont care for banning diaper anything
Distoibed04-Nov-21 07:25 AM
I'd say:
Allow everything that won't get our discord banned
Pineapples04-Nov-21 07:25 AM
Yeah, pretty much.
Jason04-Nov-21 07:25 AM
but if you are just spamming something to either piss people off, or drive people away, and you dont stop when asked
Distoibed
I'd say:
Allow everything that won't get our discord banned
Brainy04-Nov-21 07:25 AM
This was pretty much my impression of how we're treating nsfw chats too
Jason04-Nov-21 07:26 AM
you should get your img perms revoked for a bit
Brainy04-Nov-21 07:26 AM
I don't like it, but I mean, we've set the precedence so... lol
Brainy
This was pretty much my impression of how we're treating nsfw chats too
Distoibed04-Nov-21 07:26 AM
this is how we do it, but the babies want to be free but want moderation when icky wicky stuff they don't like gets posted
Jason04-Nov-21 07:26 AM
third time now you've said that
that's not true
Brainy04-Nov-21 07:27 AM
Who?
Jason04-Nov-21 07:27 AM
Pineapples
Distoibed04-Nov-21 07:27 AM
People want us to moderate it, but in their way
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Jason04-Nov-21 07:27 AM
People don't want idiots fucking with it to get a rise out of people every few days
Pineapples04-Nov-21 07:27 AM
Like I said before, I'd rather just let him have at it and tell anyone crying to shut up because they all go on about how much they love the channel because it's unmoderated.
Jason04-Nov-21 07:27 AM
I rarely moderate
but im gonna moderate nsfw chat
if you don't that's fine
Distoibed04-Nov-21 07:28 AM
Then I'll just redirect them to you
Brainy04-Nov-21 07:28 AM
Moderate in what way?
Black Lily04-Nov-21 07:28 AM
I think just banning them from #nsfw-chat like we did with dot would be appropriate
Jason04-Nov-21 07:28 AM
well so far the only action ive ever done as a jannie was take behemoth's image perms for 5 minutes because they wouldn't stop spamming diaper furry pics
Black Lily
I think just banning them from #nsfw-chat like we did with dot would be appropriate
Brainy04-Nov-21 07:29 AM
So if someone is clearly trolling with kink shit, we're good to hit them with the role restricting access to #nsfw-chat and/or #nsfw-pics ?
Jason04-Nov-21 07:29 AM
its part of the same weird hostility towards nsfw chat that led me to try to become a jannie in the first place
Jason
that's not true
Pineapples04-Nov-21 07:29 AM
Notice how I kept putting 'unmoderated' in quotes, referring to them calling it unmoderated, etc.. I'm not saying it actually is unmoderated.
Jason04-Nov-21 07:30 AM
"Let em wallow in it yeee haha they didnt want it moderated remember?"
Brainy
So if someone is clearly trolling with kink shit, we're good to hit them with the role restricting access to #nsfw-chat and/or #nsfw-pics ?
Black Lily04-Nov-21 07:30 AM
I believe june set that up the other day
Pineapples04-Nov-21 07:30 AM
That's what they always claim to want, yeah. So give it to them.
Let them deal with it.
Jason04-Nov-21 07:30 AM
i am them
and i dealt with it
Black Lily
I believe june set that up the other day
Brainy04-Nov-21 07:30 AM
Yeah, I just want to be clear on how to enforce it so I don't mess this up, since it's such a controversial channel with regards to moderation on here
Black Lily04-Nov-21 07:30 AM
@vrg - sfw
The role should probably be the same color as vrg
Pineapples04-Nov-21 07:31 AM
You can do whatever you want in there, I'm not telling you what to do. Just saying we don't have to give a shit what goes on.
Jason04-Nov-21 07:31 AM
that's fair
Brainy04-Nov-21 07:31 AM
The way it sounds is if they're posting diaper fur, scat, or some other really far out there kink shit to troll, we're good to restrict access on individual basis?(edited)
Black Lily04-Nov-21 07:32 AM
I worry about doing any moderation in #nsfw-chat causing a massive shitstorm
1
Jason04-Nov-21 07:32 AM
id be surprised to see a shitstorm for limiting image perms on behemoth for spamming furry scat images
i reiterate the nsfw chat shitstorms didn't come from people moderating
they came from mods actively prodding and harassing the users
for giggles
Black Lily04-Nov-21 07:33 AM
That's true
Brainy04-Nov-21 07:33 AM
Restricting posting access is a good way to minimize shitstorm potential
Pineapples04-Nov-21 07:33 AM
I don't really care if someone posts a bunch of porn people don't like, but if he kept doing it repeatedly(rather than this one time) then yeah probably deal with him.
Brainy04-Nov-21 07:33 AM
Because we're not just going in there deleting as it's getting posted. We're just stopping the person from posting more.
Pineapples04-Nov-21 07:33 AM
Like how we locked Dot out because he just kept shitting up the place all the time.
Brainy04-Nov-21 07:33 AM
If they complain in other channels or shit-stir there, we can escalate restrictions.
Jason04-Nov-21 07:35 AM
ideally yeah we'd mostly leave it be barring anything illegal
but i think some stuff is obvious
Brainy04-Nov-21 07:36 AM
I think Dot is a good metric for this. It's easy enough to tell when people are posting out there kink crap just to shit-stir that 99.9% of people do not want to see.(edited)
Pineapples04-Nov-21 07:36 AM
Which Behemoth was doing, but I haven't known him to do that before.
Brainy04-Nov-21 07:36 AM
Especially when they keep posting it after everyone tells them to stop.
Jason04-Nov-21 07:36 AM
i didnt even know he was in here tbh
i dunno what spurred it
Pineapples04-Nov-21 07:37 AM
Yeah, I scrolled up to see if he got angry at something and decided to piss people off, but he didn't even seem to be saying anything.
I didn't look thoroughly, though.
Jason04-Nov-21 07:37 AM
he complained about gay posting when posh started
he might have gotten mad at the gayposting earlier
i did post a lot of irl gay
Pineapples04-Nov-21 07:38 AM
Does he not know what that channel is?
Black Lily04-Nov-21 07:38 AM
@Jason I apologize for overruling you immediately, you made the right call.
Brainy04-Nov-21 07:38 AM
I mean ultimately what we're moderating is the behavior and not the content when you think about it.
Person A gets pissed off at Person B and starts posting obscene shit to piss off Person B-Z.
Black Lily
@Jason I apologize for overruling you immediately, you made the right call.
Except in this case they're doing it deliberately to piss people off
Black Lily04-Nov-21 07:43 AM
I'm not sure how the role @vrg - sfw works
Brainy04-Nov-21 07:43 AM
Black Lily04-Nov-21 07:43 AM
It looks like it bars them from all channels
Brainy04-Nov-21 07:43 AM
It should only be #nsfw-chat and #nsfw-pics I thought?
Jason04-Nov-21 07:45 AM
have you tried giving it to them with and without vrg?
Black Lily04-Nov-21 07:45 AM
Yes
Pineapples04-Nov-21 07:45 AM
I would assume you'd need to remove the vrg role so it doesn't override permissions. Dunno how it's set up, though.
Black Lily04-Nov-21 07:45 AM
If it's just that role it seems to bar them from everything
Brainy04-Nov-21 07:45 AM
I checked permissions and it looks fine
Unless other channels have blocked posting for that role
Jason04-Nov-21 07:45 AM
might just be messed up, vrg - no images seemed to work ok
Black Lily04-Nov-21 07:45 AM
If only June was awake
Brainy04-Nov-21 07:46 AM
The role by default has no posting permissions set (meaning it should default to whatever the channel allows).
Only #nsfw-chat and #nsfw-pics from what I can tell have their permissions set to disallow posting from that role.
Did he say he can't post in other channels or something?
Black Lily04-Nov-21 07:48 AM
I think it works with both roles on at once
Because he's not spamming #nsfw-chat right now(edited)
Brainy04-Nov-21 07:49 AM
Yeah it should only restrict him posting in those channels.
That role anyways.
Yeah I checked it twice. If he's complaining we're restricting anything else then he should post some screenshot as proof.
Black Lily04-Nov-21 08:00 AM
Or I guess not
I'll just switch it back to @vrg - no images
Jason04-Nov-21 08:03 AM
honestly im fine with him having it back, he stopped doing it
i didnt intend for it to be long just til he forgot
Black Lily04-Nov-21 08:04 AM
Take it off whenever you feel like then
Jason04-Nov-21 08:07 AM
Krial04-Nov-21 08:21 AM
Moderation doesn’t cause a shit storm in nsfw chat
Funny heehee discord admin stuff causes a shit storm
People flexing mod or admin or Jannie shit And messing with the channel as a whole causes shit storms imo*(edited)
I highly doubt ANYONE would complain if a dude spamming diaper fur got image perms nuked til he stopped
Pineapples04-Nov-21 08:25 AM
I assume the issue is that if we stop that, then people are going to want us to stop something less significant, and so on. I don't think stopping what was going on earlier would lead to that considering what it was, but I understand the concern.
Krial04-Nov-21 08:27 AM
Then we tell them to fuck off
If it’s not a big deal
There doesn’t gotta be a clear cut line
Perrine04-Nov-21 08:27 AM
Without knowing much or using that channel I lean towards Krial
Even 4chan would deal with floods from time to time
Krial04-Nov-21 08:27 AM
Me and Jason general know what is cool to nuke and what not
Not one person is gonna complain if you stop a fucking scat furry porn dump
Will people complain if you stop an irl sounding dump?
No
ExecutiveJackbotBOT04-Nov-21 08:29 AM
Das racist
Krial04-Nov-21 08:29 AM
And then there’s clearly people posting outlandish fetish stuff because they like it
So long as we don’t fuck up knowimg which is which we’re fine
Black Lily04-Nov-21 08:33 AM
I'll leave it up to you guys
Krial04-Nov-21 08:34 AM
I will do it like I do all of my other moderation
Drunk
Azuth04-Nov-21 11:12 AM
thank god I slept through whatever the fuck this was
Pineapples04-Nov-21 11:18 AM
Nothing much, really. Just a bit of confusion.
./a.out04-Nov-21 01:10 PM
degenerates upset there's degenerate shit in a degenerate channel
Black Lily
I'm not sure how the role @vrg - sfw works
June04-Nov-21 02:19 PM
I didn't finish setting that one up
I got tired of fucking with perms after awhile yesterday
Distoibed04-Nov-21 02:24 PM
Ohgod
Why can I see nsfw-chat again
June04-Nov-21 02:24 PM
ok so it should be synced now
actually finished setting it up
I'll re add you to the block list
Distoibed04-Nov-21 02:25 PM
:) sank yu
June04-Nov-21 02:28 PM
@jannie updated permissions on the nsfw category, let me know if you can still do shit fine(edited)
Dal29004-Nov-21 02:34 PM
Catching up, somebody was spamming scat/furry and they were bopped? (edited)
June04-Nov-21 02:38 PM
@🔇 what is @deleted-role
🔇04-Nov-21 02:38 PM
It was to bar people from vc
June04-Nov-21 02:40 PM
ah!
Krial04-Nov-21 02:48 PM
Nbd
Had img perms gone for like 5 mins
June
ah!
Dal29004-Nov-21 02:49 PM
Back when guys like cattus and neko would show up on drunken "listen to me talk about water particles" for 200 years
Zan too
June04-Nov-21 02:49 PM
yeah I forgot about that
name was vague
I thought it was a lock to retard channel or something
Stannic04-Nov-21 02:50 PM
wheres the jannie for the fucking thread
holy shit clean up this pythia bullshit
Dal29004-Nov-21 02:50 PM
It was mostly a cocked gun, wasn't used but it was "if you don't get your shit straight I'll lock you in your own VC"
Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.
Dal29004-Nov-21 02:51 PM
This is so sad, he is normally a behaved cunny
Mumu from NYC04-Nov-21 02:58 PM
hello
what has happened
June04-Nov-21 03:06 PM
I'm gonna remove the @deleted-role for now
I can revive it after I finish updating the rest of the channels
June04-Nov-21 03:18 PM
@Distoibed was it cakey that was blocked from wallstreetbets?
June
@Distoibed was it cakey that was blocked from wallstreetbets?
Distoibed04-Nov-21 03:18 PM
yeah, he wanted it himself
June04-Nov-21 03:18 PM
'Cucky' or 'CakeLord'
Distoibed04-Nov-21 03:19 PM
Uh..
german one who's big into crypto
June04-Nov-21 03:19 PM
think it was just regular cakey but I cant remember lol
Distoibed04-Nov-21 03:19 PM
yeah
regular cakey who uses shota/gay avatars
Stannic04-Nov-21 03:19 PM
it was cakey
June04-Nov-21 03:58 PM
@gaybaby@vrg - sfw@vrg - no images are all fixed and functional
nsfw, info, events, main categories are sync with all channels in them, except for
#fitness boneseer cant view it for making a joke about fitting a dick in this mouth
and cakey cant view #wallstreetbets for his own well being
I still need @🔇 or @Black Lily to give gaybaby and vrg-sfw access to viewing #jannieactions and #actions + give @mod@mod access to modifying it
@jannie can now post in announcements
Distoibed04-Nov-21 04:01 PM
>fitness boneseer cant view it for making a joke about fitting a dick in this mouth
lmao, forgot that I did that
🔇04-Nov-21 04:02 PM
Dal29004-Nov-21 04:02 PM
🔇04-Nov-21 04:02 PM
Fucking bonerseer
Dal29004-Nov-21 04:02 PM
I made too much porn of him, it drove him mad
🔇04-Nov-21 04:02 PM
I’ll fix it when I finish working and stuff.
Mumu from NYC04-Nov-21 04:02 PM
dalmindbreak
June04-Nov-21 04:03 PM
🔇04-Nov-21 07:12 PM
@June only problem with adding mudae to the category, is that people can use the commands outside of #bot-spam
June04-Nov-21 07:12 PM
yah, its fine
🔇04-Nov-21 07:12 PM
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
June04-Nov-21 07:12 PM
we can desync that channel
good point
added dyno too
June
@jannie updated permissions on the nsfw category, let me know if you can still do shit fine (edited)
Brainy05-Nov-21 01:47 AM
What was the issue with it? Because I swear I looked over it twice yesterday and didn't see any issue with how it was setup?
June05-Nov-21 01:48 AM
I dont remember, but I did a pass over every single channel and synced them all
some are synced with category, others not
but I checked every single one and every role
Brainy05-Nov-21 06:51 AM
Oh that could make sense, syncing needing to be updated
/u/GemManBad05-Nov-21 08:59 PM
Ashei trying to make choobie day a yearly thing, so i temporarily removed him from #events
Mumu from NYC05-Nov-21 09:09 PM
Black Lily05-Nov-21 09:20 PM
Why only temporarily
Pineapples05-Nov-21 09:35 PM
I didn't see how he was going about it, but if he's hosting an event then I don't see why he can't make a post about it.
1
/u/GemManBad05-Nov-21 10:06 PM
"just reminding"
If he was hosting an actual thing i wouldn't have intervened
Black Lily05-Nov-21 10:14 PM
They gotta have their ironic toddler event
ToddBotBOT05-Nov-21 10:14 PM
./a.out05-Nov-21 10:19 PM
Is it me or has ashei become more of a shitter in the past week?
Black Lily05-Nov-21 10:21 PM
He's become more of a shitter over the past year
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Black Lily05-Nov-21 11:09 PM
@June I'm not sure what you needed changed for #jannieactions and #actions so I made it so mod can manage permissions
Mumu from NYC06-Nov-21 01:17 AM
i cant believe black lily just cyberdyned us
vrg rise of the machines
Mumu from NYC
vrg rise of the machines
Black Lily06-Nov-21 01:19 AM
What
Mumu from NYC06-Nov-21 02:12 AM
terminator
Black Lily06-Nov-21 02:16 AM
Never watched it
Mumu from NYC06-Nov-21 02:28 AM
standard robot uprising after the ai they create nukes russia so russian nukes the us etc
good stuff
Black Lily
@June I'm not sure what you needed changed for #jannieactions and #actions so I made it so mod can manage permissions
June06-Nov-21 01:18 PM
Ty
./a.out
Is it me or has ashei become more of a shitter in the past week?
Dal29006-Nov-21 02:50 PM
That's his secret captain
Always was
Krial06-Nov-21 03:48 PM
@mod
Who the fuck is this
Look in welcome.
Distoibed06-Nov-21 03:49 PM
lmao
tell valkyre to lurk #welcome more
Krial06-Nov-21 03:50 PM
Why is he giving me shit
Meeps06-Nov-21 03:50 PM
no idea
ExecutiveJackbotBOT06-Nov-21 03:50 PM
I'm crying RN
Meeps06-Nov-21 03:50 PM
i dont really know him i just know of him
Krial06-Nov-21 03:50 PM
Because they unironically browse lgbt
Whatever. He doesn’t affect the person in welcome
ExecutiveJackbotBOT06-Nov-21 03:51 PM
Das racist... wait no it's not
Distoibed06-Nov-21 03:52 PM
and tbh
being told to give somebody access is like the #1 thing you shouldn't say (to me)
Krial06-Nov-21 03:52 PM
Yeah like, I didn’t even harass the dude
I agree completely.
Distoibed06-Nov-21 03:52 PM
like I'm now more inclined to make it harder for him
Krial06-Nov-21 03:52 PM
Absolutely.
Idk how to make it harder though
Lol
Since I already asked my questions.
Brainy06-Nov-21 03:58 PM
Jesus sensitive much
Tell them to get over themselves lol
Krial06-Nov-21 04:00 PM
So
ExecutiveJackbotBOT06-Nov-21 04:00 PM
I'm crying RN
Krial06-Nov-21 04:01 PM
Supposedly valk says he’s just a friend from Warcraft general
And he got a headset
So he told him to check out the general
Dal29006-Nov-21 04:01 PM
I'd say keep them out, been talking a lot about nsfw-chat shit, don't think we should let in people who are just going to camp that more :^) )
Krial06-Nov-21 04:01 PM
In which case that’s fine
But this guy is kind of a baby
Dal29006-Nov-21 04:01 PM
Yee that and they appear to be sensitive, they could just become another lolcow
Krial06-Nov-21 04:02 PM
Yeah this is gone
No way in hell
Meeps06-Nov-21 04:05 PM
yeah looks like its just someone he knows from /wpsg/ so that's why he was mad(edited)
I'm trying to reduce the number of channels we have
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<308-Nov-21 04:03 PM
and hide it
June08-Nov-21 04:03 PM
thats all
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<308-Nov-21 04:04 PM
why tho
June08-Nov-21 04:04 PM
I did have it muted
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<308-Nov-21 04:04 PM
id rather have more to stay on topic
June08-Nov-21 04:04 PM
because this server has too many channels and they go mostly un used
people bitch and hide 75% of the channels
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<308-Nov-21 04:04 PM
then are are hidden and it doesn't\ matter
June08-Nov-21 04:05 PM
I'm not going to argue over this, if you want it back, go ahead. duplicate one of the existing event channel's or main, and make sure its synced with category
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<308-Nov-21 04:06 PM
i mean i dont really care just dont delete guns or automotive
June08-Nov-21 04:06 PM
I didn't plan on it, those two actually get use
Azuth08-Nov-21 04:06 PM
I liked it for posting meetup instance links that weren't event related
June08-Nov-21 04:07 PM
can you just not use general, or vr-games?
a channel for a on topic message every few weeks is pretty overkill
Azuth08-Nov-21 04:07 PM
A slower dedicated channel keeps the links in view
The world-links channel was only made because vrc fucked up their friends list for a week. There wasn’t any need for it after.
Stannic08-Nov-21 05:14 PM
i'd argue that putting world links in threads would be nice for new friends to join in
but that comes at the risk of crashers and mamamad coming in
lmao
🔇
Black Lily08-Nov-21 05:30 PM
Kill it
Stannic
i'd argue that putting world links in threads would be nice for new friends to join in
Azuth08-Nov-21 05:36 PM
yuru's been doing his welcome wagon namedropping again, been a while since he last did
Stannic08-Nov-21 05:37 PM
oh
as long as new friends can come in
it doesn't matter about having a world link channel
if vrchat is being shitter tier with world links again make a thread underneath events and it'll archive itself in a week
Mumu from NYC08-Nov-21 05:44 PM
what if we combined events and movies again
Azuth08-Nov-21 05:45 PM
what about this
one channel for event announcements where we can see what's going on(edited)
one for the actual instance links so the links don't crowd out the announcements
or use #announcements for event announcements instead of mod shitposting(edited)
Mumu from NYC08-Nov-21 05:47 PM
yes
remove feedback and announcement shitposting
I think #splinter-discords can go too
better yet, what does a normal user see in terms of text channels
I know they don't see this cluster or unclean
Pineapples08-Nov-21 05:56 PM
Hmm, I've got a note for Sentient here. Must've been ages ago since I don't remember him.
Azuth08-Nov-21 06:00 PM
guy definitely seems to have lurked in the meantime looking at his interview with krial
Pineapples08-Nov-21 06:02 PM
Yeah, he at least knew how to find /hm/ for a shitpost.
Mumu from NYC08-Nov-21 06:10 PM
huh
I thought we were doing the whole 'even if you start browsing now going forward' it was still barred entry
Azuth08-Nov-21 06:15 PM
we should really write that shit down somewhere
half the time there's an issue in here it's because people think different things are standard policy
Mumu from NYC08-Nov-21 06:16 PM
lol wouldn't be a bad idea
Pineapples
Hmm, I've got a note for Sentient here. Must've been ages ago since I don't remember him.
Dal29008-Nov-21 06:17 PM
My only concern, and this is a lil tidbit
When the heavy weird copyright shitposting was spammed the other week and they racked up like, dozens of deleted post and threw a huge fit and all that, the link to shopcord was dropped, guy joined off of it
So either he reads, or he is some kind of shitter
Azuth
we should really write that shit down somewhere
Distoibed08-Nov-21 06:23 PM
Uncleaned
Dal29008-Nov-21 06:25 PM
P sure @Krial and @#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3 where there and I chatted with them, it was a weird angle to shitpost that week
Black Lily08-Nov-21 06:28 PM
I member
Dal29008-Nov-21 06:34 PM
Distoibed
Uncleaned
Azuth08-Nov-21 06:35 PM
I mean like the exact criteria for admissions/kicks/bans
Stannic08-Nov-21 06:49 PM
>look in unclean
>wicash wicash wicash
bruh
just go to trash
Black Lily08-Nov-21 06:53 PM
Has Valk even gotten in vr since 2018
🔇08-Nov-21 06:56 PM
They get on every now and then.
Mumu from NYC08-Nov-21 07:11 PM
black lily was itchin for a kickin
Black Lily08-Nov-21 07:15 PM
Nah
I just can't remember seeing him a single time since 2018
Stannic09-Nov-21 01:14 AM
@Krial
lol
permaban pls
Krial09-Nov-21 01:15 AM
Already did
Stannic09-Nov-21 01:15 AM
gad bless
though
I got the feeling they came back to report or something
he's working his way up to being perma banned for not knowing how to take the god damn L
Mumu from NYC09-Nov-21 06:25 PM
rofl
just ban him
put him out of his misery
Krial09-Nov-21 07:07 PM
I figure at this point
U evade that much, you’re gone
Unless it’s meme evades like orb
ExecutiveJackbotBOT09-Nov-21 07:07 PM
I'm crying RN
Krial09-Nov-21 07:07 PM
For being annoying :^)
Distoibed10-Nov-21 03:38 AM
I'd prefer to see him struggle, but that's just cus I'm a mischievous little imp
./a.out13-Nov-21 02:55 PM
Debating on if its time to let orb out of unclean
./a.out
Debating on if its time to let orb out of unclean
Distoibed13-Nov-21 03:02 PM
100 word apology :)
Black Lily13-Nov-21 03:03 PM
500
Krial13-Nov-21 03:07 PM
500 word apology to onion
./a.out13-Nov-21 03:12 PM
./a.out13-Nov-21 03:20 PM
Im impressed
Krial13-Nov-21 03:25 PM
Checks out
./a.out13-Nov-21 03:28 PM
@🔇 i believe its time to let our boi out
🔇13-Nov-21 03:28 PM
sure lol
June13-Nov-21 03:28 PM
ye go for it
🔇13-Nov-21 03:29 PM
hes off the list, and should be good to join
i havent restarted jackbot yet, idk if its needed or not
./a.out13-Nov-21 03:30 PM
Nah it aint needed, should be good
Krial13-Nov-21 03:33 PM
So
Do we just push him through or
Interview again and him leave again etc
./a.out13-Nov-21 03:35 PM
Interview again
I wanna see if he's learned
./a.out
Click to see attachment🖼️
Distoibed13-Nov-21 03:40 PM
always interesting to see the professional side of somebody of orb's caliber
./a.out13-Nov-21 03:40 PM
Indeed. The man has some interesting modes
Meeps13-Nov-21 03:53 PM
i made it so non-roles cant post images/embeds in welcome since they dont need to anyways, feel free to vote/revert if needed, didnt think it was that big of a change to discuss though so i just did it (edited)
2
Krial13-Nov-21 04:03 PM
Nah that’s fine
No reason for them to
They’re there to answer question
Meeps
i made it so non-roles cant post images/embeds in welcome since they dont need to anyways, feel free to vote/revert if needed, didnt think it was that big of a change to discuss though so i just did it (edited)
Dal29013-Nov-21 04:05 PM
Sounds good to me, don't see that kind of change effecting much
June13-Nov-21 04:06 PM
good, probably just missed it when combing over the channels
thanks meeps
./a.out
Click to see attachment🖼️
Mumu from NYC13-Nov-21 04:31 PM
LMFAO
Brainy13-Nov-21 08:21 PM
That's actually a really good change, bravo(edited)
Surprised we didn't do it already lol
Pineapples13-Nov-21 09:29 PM
That's how it used to work, but it probably got missed.
They couldn't even use emoji's.
Azuth13-Nov-21 11:45 PM
anyone @here know what phossu's talking about?
🔇13-Nov-21 11:45 PM
comfy asked to be banned
why do i need an action for something someone asked for?
Pineapples13-Nov-21 11:47 PM
So that people know why things actually happened and don't have to potentially start bugging us to find out why.
ExecutiveJackbotBOT13-Nov-21 11:48 PM
I'm crying RN
🔇13-Nov-21 11:48 PM
comfy is just going to tell people he fucked krials mom
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Pineapples13-Nov-21 11:48 PM
But that would make sense and probably get them a reasonable answer. Can't have that.
Then again, if it was a proper ban then the answer given would be a bunch of bullshit anyway, so I guess asking the person directly isn't always the best option.
🔇13-Nov-21 11:49 PM
and i would hardly call someone wanting to leave the server a "moderation action" anyways
Pineapples13-Nov-21 11:50 PM
Yeah, but I'd put it in actions anyway just so people know I wasn't trying to silently get rid of someone.
Dunno why he went digging through the audit log, though.
Stannic14-Nov-21 12:00 AM
I don't understand
🔇14-Nov-21 12:00 AM
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Stannic14-Nov-21 12:00 AM
is ctrl-f a lost art also?
🔇14-Nov-21 12:01 AM
if he wants to leave, why not let him?
ExecutiveJackbotBOT14-Nov-21 12:01 AM
Das racist... wait no it's not
🔇14-Nov-21 12:01 AM
also people like to create drama
Azuth14-Nov-21 12:08 AM
I think that's the biggest reason to post things on #actions
folks can't make up drama if the reason for a ban is right there
even if it's a dumb reason like they asked
Pineapples14-Nov-21 12:10 AM
Yeah, just generally keeping things clear.
Dal29014-Nov-21 12:13 AM
I'd think a ban message is best for accountability reasons, if you hit the button, explain why
Azuth14-Nov-21 12:15 AM
speaking of
can we ban the guy in welcome based on pfp alone
Krial14-Nov-21 12:16 AM
What do with furry
Dal29014-Nov-21 12:17 AM
No mutual friends no mutual servers, anybody else?
Azuth14-Nov-21 12:17 AM
nope
Krial14-Nov-21 12:19 AM
None
Not a spoon feed it looks like
Want me to just ask is he a furry
And feel it out
Azuth14-Nov-21 12:20 AM
I want to go straight for the shotgun, but sure
Pineapples14-Nov-21 12:21 AM
I feel like I've seen the name somewhere.
Kinda feel like he got kicked out previously, or maybe there were a lot of questions and then he was let in. Dunno, though.
but i got a good assumption considering they're in textools
and modding group means they've been around vrchat for a while to be a lot of things
Pineapples14-Nov-21 03:50 AM
Cool, thanks for the tip. I don't have any servers or anything in common with them, so they seemed the same as anyone else to me.
Azuth14-Nov-21 03:51 AM
they know Kirsch apparently too
Azuth14-Nov-21 04:33 AM
love how he shuts up when I ask about other generals
gotta wonder who spoonfed him in here
Azuth14-Nov-21 04:45 AM
lemme know if I'm being too hard with the vetting
Pineapples14-Nov-21 04:48 AM
No harm in it if there are any red flags, like FFXIV and such.
Kinda strange that he wrote /vg/ as "VG" though. But I guess some people are just weird.
Azuth14-Nov-21 04:48 AM
guy has trash taste but at least he finally mentioned some other generals
I try to ask questions that trip them up if they're bullshitting
Pineapples14-Nov-21 04:53 AM
I like the questions about board specific memes, but I'm not familiar enough with most boards so I don't end up using them.
ExecutiveJackbotBOT14-Nov-21 05:33 AM
I'm crying RN
Brainy14-Nov-21 06:08 AM
Plz no to the furry
I just saw welcome
Azuth14-Nov-21 06:09 AM
kept out the furry but let in the coomer
business as usual
Brainy14-Nov-21 06:09 AM
Haha I was just seeing that, Jesus I'm in like every XIV Discord with this person
They're in Beat Saber Modding Group though so maybe not that bad?
ExecutiveJackbotBOT14-Nov-21 06:13 AM
I'm crying RN
Pineapples14-Nov-21 06:13 AM
Hardly unusual around here, though.
Pineapples14-Nov-21 08:11 AM
Hm, no other friends in common besides Isuress. Though I guess I haven't added most of the people who joined over the last year or two.
Probably know each other from VRC, I'd assume, so minor chance he could just be one of those people who just joins every group they can. Just a guess, though.(edited)
Distoibed14-Nov-21 08:16 AM
if that's so, the only thing he can collect from here is a middle finger
Krial14-Nov-21 08:20 AM
He ain’t said shot
Give em a second lol
Distoibed14-Nov-21 08:24 AM
ofc I will
but I'm just saying if he ain't here to participate, he can H*CK off
Pineapples14-Nov-21 08:25 AM
I honestly doubt it, just something to keep in mind if anything seems off.
And besides, Isuress has good friends, even if a bunch of them are normies.
Krial14-Nov-21 08:35 AM
Isuress is based
Very based
Krial
Very based
Distoibed14-Nov-21 08:42 AM
sadly the effectiveness of you using the word "based" to describe a person diminishes more and more because of your excessive use of it
Distoibed
sadly the effectiveness of you using the word "based" to describe a person diminishes more and more because of your excessive use of it
Krial14-Nov-21 08:57 AM
He is very kind
Brainy14-Nov-21 10:06 AM
I like Isuress, one of the good ones around here IMO
Distoibed14-Nov-21 10:32 AM
was isuress the personal discord kitten of reminess?
or was that iverness?
Pineapples14-Nov-21 10:36 AM
Definitely not the former, so probably the latter.
./a.out14-Nov-21 10:37 AM
Him and i share the same passion for ass, so I consider him an esteemed man of culture and a fine friend of the cause
Distoibed14-Nov-21 10:37 AM
what about kuiwa
./a.out14-Nov-21 10:37 AM
He's just fuckin freaky
Distoibed14-Nov-21 10:38 AM
I usually bully him by busting out cursed models with big asses, like manami's or like a bimbofied version of MLP's celestia
./a.out14-Nov-21 10:38 AM
Isu and I respect the behind, Kuiwa devours it like nickakado avacado at an all you can eat buffet
Yeeeeea thats the one downside, but is to be expected of some of our esteemed perveyers of the badonkadonk.
But he will go in respectively and courteously, while Kuiwa is literally the dog in that gif(edited)
/u/GemManBad14-Nov-21 10:41 AM
Kuiwa i have only seen him in front of cheeks
Distoibed
or was that iverness?
Krial14-Nov-21 01:10 PM
That’s iverness
Distoibed14-Nov-21 01:12 PM
I knew, but I just wanted to joke at the fact that their names are so alike
If the vax ends up being bad n shit
Then let my death be part of the biggest government riot
🔇15-Nov-21 08:35 PM
>pro vaccine: you might not die from covid
>anti vaccine: you might die from the shot
sounds good either way
Brainy15-Nov-21 10:17 PM
I actually feel bad we have people doxxing themselves unironically with the code.
Azuth15-Nov-21 10:17 PM
wouldn't be the dumbest thing people have done here
🔇
>pro vaccine: you might not die from covid
>anti vaccine: you might die from the shot
sounds good either way
Brainy15-Nov-21 10:18 PM
My Dad had Parkinson's Disease, so if it ends us giving up some prion disease shit, I'll be the first to get Alzheimer's. (edited)
🔇15-Nov-21 10:18 PM
Bout to have about 20 people doxx their address for secret Santa.
Brainy
My Dad had Parkinson's Disease, so if it ends us giving up some prion disease shit, I'll be the first to get Alzheimer's. (edited)
🔇15-Nov-21 10:19 PM
Well, I guess I’ll have to introduce myself again if that happens.
Brainy15-Nov-21 10:20 PM
So long as I get to meet my favorite people again every day maybe it's not so bad
🔇15-Nov-21 10:25 PM
Except you’ll eventually forget yourself as well.
Brainy15-Nov-21 10:34 PM
I'm not worth remembering anyways lol
🔇15-Nov-21 10:44 PM
Mumu from NYC16-Nov-21 12:04 AM
I am not anti vax
I just live to troll
I'm also 17 btw
Guno16-Nov-21 01:02 AM
asylum already had mailed me a card before :V
Distoibed16-Nov-21 01:03 AM
Asylum knows every dox
Vrg shadowleader
🔇16-Nov-21 01:26 AM
being able to and actually doing are two different things
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Distoibed16-Nov-21 01:45 AM
Sleeping shadowleader
Distoibed
Asylum knows every dox
Black Lily16-Nov-21 01:53 AM
I have everyone's dox
Mumu from NYC16-Nov-21 02:00 AM
Asylum won't get my dox until he sends me chrimbus gift
So never
Distoibed16-Nov-21 02:12 AM
He probably has my face
Black Lily
I have everyone's dox
Stannic16-Nov-21 02:27 AM
gimme my doxx
Stannic
gimme my doxx
Black Lily16-Nov-21 02:29 AM
Only if you spell it right
Stannic16-Nov-21 02:29 AM
okay dox
Stannic
okay dox
Black Lily16-Nov-21 02:30 AM
Wrong answer
It is spelled IT
Stannic16-Nov-21 02:30 AM
Stannic
Distoibed16-Nov-21 02:32 AM
Buffoon
Black Lily16-Nov-21 02:33 AM
Fell for the oldest trick in the book
Stannic16-Nov-21 02:34 AM
Azuth16-Nov-21 11:19 PM
yo it's the 16th and we still got our halloween icon
embarassing
Black Lily16-Nov-21 11:21 PM
@Azuth make a new one
You have the power
🔇16-Nov-21 11:22 PM
i changed the banner after halloween at least
Azuth16-Nov-21 11:30 PM
done
Mumu from NYC16-Nov-21 11:31 PM
Change the banner to a string of Christmas lights
Meeps16-Nov-21 11:31 PM
cute
Pineapples16-Nov-21 11:47 PM
It's November.
Mumu from NYC17-Nov-21 12:12 AM
Listen pineapples
It's never too early for Christmas
Black Lily17-Nov-21 12:18 AM
It is
Azuth
yo it's the 16th and we still got our halloween icon
Perrine17-Nov-21 01:43 AM
we're gonna leave the christmas lights on until july
you realize this yes
Krial17-Nov-21 02:54 AM
My favorite holiday
Ignored
Distoibed17-Nov-21 02:59 AM
which is?
Krial17-Nov-21 03:01 AM
thanksgiving
Distoibed
which is?
Black Lily17-Nov-21 03:32 AM
ZipZoop's birthday
Distoibed17-Nov-21 03:33 AM
who?
Stannic17-Nov-21 12:45 PM
zipzoop the african warlord who is worse than general buttnaked
Mumu from NYC17-Nov-21 01:09 PM
Lmao
Guno17-Nov-21 11:54 PM
Yo just speaking up that I'm stepping down from Janni, I had been considering it for a while anyways, I just rarely catch anything worth catching anyways, mostly due only frequenting less busy channels I suppose
@Guno Sorry to see you go, but thank you for all you did.
Krial18-Nov-21 12:29 AM
Brainy18-Nov-21 12:40 AM
I gave Tundra the VRG - no images role for posting shota in nsfw(edited)
Dunno where I need to keep a record of these actions that's private.
🔇18-Nov-21 12:42 AM
#jannieactions I guess?
Or #bot-review ?
Idk
Brainy18-Nov-21 12:44 AM
I didn't want it being viewable outside of mod team, I'll use #bot-review
Krial18-Nov-21 01:42 AM
also post in actions
@Brainy
Krial
also post in actions
Brainy18-Nov-21 01:42 AM
Thank you!
Krial18-Nov-21 01:43 AM
Need to be transparent about punishments I think
its viewable by everyone there heads up
Brainy18-Nov-21 01:43 AM
I just didn't want to acknowledge publicly that someone posted shota worth removing, I didn't want it leading to harassment or something else.
But I could have just said their role was removed and left it at that.
Krial18-Nov-21 01:44 AM
if he's not raging about it
maybe leaving out of actions ok
Brainy18-Nov-21 01:44 AM
Yeah I know, I just don't want to be posting about something that could lead to harassment of a user by others, or assumptions about them by others.
Krial18-Nov-21 01:44 AM
could also do a week punishment
Dal29018-Nov-21 01:44 AM
I say its a bad call, people are looking for excuses to shitpost and test from what I can see
Krial18-Nov-21 01:44 AM
and just say
"tundra image perms removed for naughty posting - 1 week"
Dal29018-Nov-21 01:44 AM
How many people normally post about shota stuff?
Krial18-Nov-21 01:44 AM
then leave it at that
Brainy18-Nov-21 01:45 AM
Since it's controversial content I figured there's no reason for people to know the exact reason. If I were to post it to actions in the future, could I just say "inappropriate content" and leave it at that?
Krial18-Nov-21 01:46 AM
yeh
and make it not so serious sounding
Brainy18-Nov-21 01:46 AM
The thing is once the content is removed there is no context, so people could assume some really bad shit.
Krial18-Nov-21 01:46 AM
if u treat it serious then ppl will think its serious
dont do that, and no huss no fuss no muss
Brainy18-Nov-21 01:46 AM
Yeah I'll try to come up with something more casual in that scenario
Krial18-Nov-21 01:46 AM
if you want someone else to do it im sure none of us mind
i can even take heat for it if u want idc
Brainy18-Nov-21 01:47 AM
Mainly I just don't want a situation where someone gets a bad rep or even harassed when it's just that crossed a line and need perms temporarily removed is all
Krial18-Nov-21 01:47 AM
hell no
no one will care
Pineapples18-Nov-21 02:06 AM
Nah, no one will get any shit for it. Being a pedo is so in right now.
Plus it'll more likely encourage others to start spamming it.
🔇18-Nov-21 02:41 AM
No need to publicly announce role changes for shit imo.
Pineapples
Plus it'll more likely encourage others to start spamming it.
Brainy18-Nov-21 06:33 AM
I agree with all of this including it just encouraging others to post more or worse.
@/u/GemManBad@June can we leave nsfw-chat off for a day
and see how it goes
Mumu from NYC18-Nov-21 02:27 PM
/u/GemManBad18-Nov-21 02:27 PM
I agree
Stannic18-Nov-21 02:27 PM
@/u/GemManBad did you really take june's phone and @'d everyone tho
I got a feeling yo udid
/u/GemManBad18-Nov-21 02:28 PM
I did not
June18-Nov-21 02:28 PM
Stannic18-Nov-21 02:28 PM
/u/GemManBad18-Nov-21 02:28 PM
He did say look at the chat before he did and we giggled
Stannic18-Nov-21 02:28 PM
ooooo
keep nsfw-chat locked down for a day
See how it goes
June18-Nov-21 02:29 PM
People might die
Stannic18-Nov-21 02:29 PM
June
People might die
Distoibed18-Nov-21 02:35 PM
great
we need a culling
Krial18-Nov-21 02:38 PM
Can we stop fcking with shit plz
No reason for it just leave ppl be
🔇18-Nov-21 02:39 PM
coomers are gay
let them experience time without porn
Krial18-Nov-21 02:40 PM
They don’t ornbspam except for like one person
Porn
They just like their own channel
I don’t think is problem plus is just flooding my inbox
🔇18-Nov-21 02:41 PM
please forward people who are dming you to #feedback
Krial18-Nov-21 02:42 PM
No becaus o don’t want ppl leaving servers because funny haha irl meet stuff
Krial
No becaus o don’t want ppl leaving servers because funny haha irl meet stuff
🔇18-Nov-21 02:42 PM
people were spamming it for the last 2 hours with the cat slams face gif
Stannic18-Nov-21 02:43 PM
by people you mean beef?
🔇18-Nov-21 02:44 PM
others started spamming it after i timed out beef
Stannic18-Nov-21 02:44 PM
o
like me
Krial18-Nov-21 03:08 PM
Y we muting beef
🔇18-Nov-21 03:09 PM
because hes the reason i killed nsfw chat in the first place
Distoibed18-Nov-21 03:10 PM
Say a thousand n-words and nobody bats en eye
delete 1 channel and everybody loses their minds(edited)
Krial18-Nov-21 03:11 PM
He wants to know when he unmute @🔇
🔇18-Nov-21 03:11 PM
timeout is for 2 hours since i timed him out for an hour already
Distoibed18-Nov-21 03:16 PM
but I do enjoy that people go absolutely insane because we removed their channel
Krial
Y we muting beef
Stannic18-Nov-21 03:39 PM
he's the one who constantly spammed the chat with the cat bonking head wall thing
and when june @ everyone'd he began spamming it out like crazy
and people began joining in
on the whole chaos
including me
🔇18-Nov-21 04:07 PM
Yes.
Stannic18-Nov-21 04:16 PM
and now it's immoirtalized
🔇18-Nov-21 08:01 PM
Too many mods/jannies exist. I will relieve people of their service for thanksgiving next week. After that we will introduce more jannies and have the cycle continue. Anyone who wants to volunteer to be removed, let me know.
Pineapples18-Nov-21 08:06 PM
I'm fine with being removed if you want. Really not fussed whether I'm a mod or not.
🔇
Too many mods/jannies exist. I will relieve people of their service for thanksgiving next week. After that we will introduce more jannies and have the cycle continue. Anyone who wants to volunteer to be removed, let me know.
Stannic18-Nov-21 08:18 PM
i'm fine with being removed
June18-Nov-21 08:21 PM
I'm also fine leaving
Dal29018-Nov-21 08:33 PM
I'm interested in staying if I didn't make that clear last assassination attempt I am not comfortable with the way our discord infounces /vrg/ and want to push ways to fix it
June18-Nov-21 08:38 PM
Fix what
What does the discord do
Yours has way more influence since it's where the projects and events are worked on in
Dal29018-Nov-21 08:51 PM
Hate to say it, but as long as this is labeled /vrg/ we got to put in an effort to make sure it is, well, /vrg/
Don't want anymore 9/11 or sneedup repeats either
Distoibed19-Nov-21 01:33 AM
My powertrip is not over yet, my need for superiority needs to exist for longer
Brainy19-Nov-21 01:35 AM
I plan to stay too, if you'll have me.
I also agree that a lot of people would not come back here if shop merged. There are people who specifically left because of how this place has transformed and they would not be happy about that at all. There are a few I've tried to get to come back who are adamant they never will.
One being one of my favorite people in VRG.
Dal290
Don't want anymore 9/11 or sneedup repeats either
Stannic19-Nov-21 01:40 AM
what happened to sneedup
Brainy
I also agree that a lot of people would not come back here if shop merged. There are people who specifically left because of how this place has transformed and they would not be happy about that at all. There are a few I've tried to get to come back who are adamant they never will.
Dal29019-Nov-21 01:42 AM
Hope is to get things to a state where that is actually feasible, I was hoping in months things would get better, but more are losing interest in coming back because of various problems, not sure when or if that is even possible now
Stannic
what happened to sneedup
Dal29019-Nov-21 01:42 AM
Shitposters used that as a meme to shit on Krial's event, they pulled the full stops to pass it off as a harmless event
Ironic considering one of the main people pushing it was upset yuru was previously oppressing their events, so apparently shitting on other people is fair game?
Stannic19-Nov-21 01:43 AM
wat
who's event did yuru oppress
Dal29019-Nov-21 01:44 AM
I am rping on F L I ST I am not explainin all this tonight
DIE STANNIC
Stannic19-Nov-21 01:44 AM
mp
no
ExecutiveJackbotBOT19-Nov-21 01:44 AM
Das racist... wait no it's not
Dal29019-Nov-21 01:46 AM
#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<319-Nov-21 02:01 AM
I'd like to stay if it's alright. Although I know I haven't been around much the last few weeks due to moving(edited)
Krial19-Nov-21 02:34 AM
idc yall can choose
Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.
Distoibed19-Nov-21 02:59 AM
SoS vrg awards
Stannic19-Nov-21 02:59 AM
yuki awards it all to himself and inflates his ego more
Distoibed19-Nov-21 03:05 AM
I really hope the "SoS is my reason for making events, without it I will not make any" wasn't yuki
Distoibed
I really hope the "SoS is my reason for making events, without it I will not make any" wasn't yuki
Dal29019-Nov-21 03:58 AM
Did SoS ded?
Distoibed19-Nov-21 04:24 AM
no
either yuki was ultimatum-ing about "if sos dissapears from the title, I will stop making events"
or somebody was really good at making me annoyed with a whiny impression of yuki(edited)
🔇19-Nov-21 05:59 AM
It’s either Yuki or Krial shitting on Yuki.
Krial19-Nov-21 06:35 AM
wasnt me
i dont care enough to do that
it was 100% him
ExecutiveJackbotBOT19-Nov-21 06:36 AM
I'm crying RN
Dal29019-Nov-21 06:40 AM
What do you mean the whole "it wasn't me" thing, nobody would lie on the internet
Certainly tempting, but that'd be a really shitty thing to do.
I wouldn't be surprised if a ton of people payed up for it, though.
🔇
Too many mods/jannies exist. I will relieve people of their service for thanksgiving next week. After that we will introduce more jannies and have the cycle continue. Anyone who wants to volunteer to be removed, let me know.
Meeps19-Nov-21 08:45 AM
I’ll stick around as long as I’m wanted or needed
Pineapples19-Nov-21 08:54 AM
Oh yeah, I guess I should say, while I don't care about being removed, if people want me to stay for whatever reason I will. I don't usually do much besides discuss things these days, though.
And I may end up just throwing in the towel some time soon anyway.
Distoibed19-Nov-21 09:54 AM
I think that Pineapples should stay, meeps IMO is a given that he should but, I do appreciate Pineapple's input in stuff(edited)
Distoibed
I really hope the "SoS is my reason for making events, without it I will not make any" wasn't yuki
Stannic19-Nov-21 12:43 PM
it is yuki
Brainy19-Nov-21 12:47 PM
Sounds really dangerous if I'm being honest I really would not recommend this at all.
It's already controversial with people posting what they do in there, including stuff we have to be worried about removing immediately due to grey area legal status. Adding money to the equation is like tempting fate on even one thing slipping past us and getting reported.(edited)
Krial19-Nov-21 12:53 PM
I will absolutely chain nuke shit if we put a fucking paywall even as a joke
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Stannic19-Nov-21 12:56 PM
same
people were generous with the server boosts
Brainy19-Nov-21 12:57 PM
Yeah not to beat a dead horse, but please never even do this, even as a joke. I'm telling you guys it's really serious shit.(edited)
Stannic19-Nov-21 12:57 PM
to add fuel to that fire and especially from yesterday
just for haha laughs
Krial19-Nov-21 12:58 PM
Just for haha laughs is not funny when it’s destructive. Ie removing people’s things for hehes usually is not funny when compared to adding things in a constructive way, that’s usually funny
Stannic19-Nov-21 12:59 PM
i hope this feature is restricted only to admin so we don't have mods fucking around with that
Krial19-Nov-21 01:00 PM
I’m 200% down for making that an instaban for fucking with
Stannic19-Nov-21 01:00 PM
^
ExecutiveJackbotBOT19-Nov-21 01:00 PM
Das racist
Krial19-Nov-21 01:00 PM
They could legitimately say we were charging for it
1
And that doesn’t sound like a very fun email to get on a Monday
Brainy19-Nov-21 01:03 PM
Yeah it's that sort of shit that would absolutely get us reported when none of us are even aware of it.
Distoibed19-Nov-21 01:03 PM
this kinda sounds like "it's funny when I do it to others, but not when it'done to me"
Brainy19-Nov-21 01:04 PM
I mean neither NCMEC or Discord are going to give a shit lmao
They're just going to see it as the responsibility of this server and everyone running it (mods/jannies).
Krial19-Nov-21 01:04 PM
Oh I hate messing with shit in a destructive way period
Brainy19-Nov-21 01:04 PM
Potentially even every person posting in that channel.
As in anyone ever with a history posting in it.
Stannic19-Nov-21 01:05 PM
don't think anyone posting rn has done anything negative towards nsfw-chat's permissions and retardation
Brainy19-Nov-21 01:05 PM
I'm not exaggerating either, I literally talked to someone recently about this, that they have no real due diligence to this process, they just mass report to NCMEC to cover their ass (Discord).
Stannic19-Nov-21 01:06 PM
yeah the japanese speedrunning channel
Distoibed19-Nov-21 01:07 PM
I wouldn't mind another ban from discord
but that's cus I have eaten like 3-4
the initial "OH FUCK ALL OF MY FRIENDS" scare is already gone
Brainy19-Nov-21 01:07 PM
That was what resulted in our conversation and they were like, "yeah, 500% they just exported all user data from that server in the report to NCMEC". Meaning people who had no idea about this shit, nor wanted any part of it, they were just there for speedrunning content.
But anyways TLDR please don't ever do this and please restrict any access to setting this on any channel.
ExecutiveJackbotBOT19-Nov-21 01:09 PM
I'm crying RN
June19-Nov-21 01:46 PM
Jesus Christ
We are not going to touch paywall shit
Don't need to say more than that
Krial
I will absolutely chain nuke shit if we put a fucking paywall even as a joke
June19-Nov-21 01:47 PM
Don't joke about chain nuking things
I understand why you would be pissed, but you can't just go nuclear
Krial19-Nov-21 01:57 PM
Yeah realistically I’d probably just bail
I despise monetization
Distoibed19-Nov-21 02:06 PM
I think I should stop suggesting things that people could take seriously
Pineapples19-Nov-21 05:32 PM
I'm surprised anyone even talked about it that much, I figured it was obvious that we wouldn't do something that stupid.
Stannic19-Nov-21 05:38 PM
dunno how far people will kick the hornet's nest before it results in chain nukes
Black Lily19-Nov-21 05:42 PM
Bot is missing a few
Stannic
dunno how far people will kick the hornet's nest before it results in chain nukes
Distoibed19-Nov-21 05:47 PM
ok, so what if it happens
shit gets laggy
we will probably just timeout them
Stannic19-Nov-21 05:47 PM
ture
true
Distoibed19-Nov-21 05:47 PM
if the discord gets banned, we just remake them
I'm not all for it
Stannic19-Nov-21 05:48 PM
i thought the goal was to not get this discord nuked again
or at least delay it more than a year
otherwise we wouldn't have to care about having jackbot delete niggers and having some people delete shota and loli
ExecutiveJackbotBOT19-Nov-21 05:48 PM
I'm crying RN
Krial19-Nov-21 07:38 PM
The issue with a nuke happening is power grabs
Black Lily19-Nov-21 07:52 PM
Who will be the next king or queen
Dal29019-Nov-21 08:15 PM
I don't see the issue with grabs aside from some undiscussed assumption of position in this one, aside from that Rydercord was a complete failure and demonstrated nobody wants to have multiple "mains"
We're all /vrg/ wither people want it to meme apart or not
Pineapples
I'm surprised anyone even talked about it that much, I figured it was obvious that we wouldn't do something that stupid.
Brainy20-Nov-21 02:03 AM
It's not that we believe anyone would seriously suggest doing something this stupid. It's that it's scary to think someone could get drunk and do it just to be funny without knowing the consequences.
But yeah beating a dead horse now, just wanted to be clear it should never happen.
Pineapples20-Nov-21 02:04 AM
Oh, yeah, I guess that is a concern...
Pineapples20-Nov-21 03:46 AM
Fuck it, I'm not dealing with the backlash from you guys fucking around and pissing everyone off. I'm out.
./a.out20-Nov-21 03:48 AM
Kickin the hornets nest...
June20-Nov-21 03:50 AM
5 whole pings
./a.out
Kickin the hornets nest...
🔇20-Nov-21 03:50 AM
Black Lily
Bot is missing a few
🔇20-Nov-21 03:53 AM
Those are mostly from YouTube or other embeds, last I checked.
Dal29020-Nov-21 03:55 AM
My favorite episode, drunkenly discussion and bad ideas
🔇20-Nov-21 03:58 AM
you could have joined us here. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Dal29020-Nov-21 03:59 AM
Nobody invited me
June20-Nov-21 04:00 AM
I was trying to
Dal29020-Nov-21 04:00 AM
Whatever man, you guys have fun
June20-Nov-21 04:01 AM
We will talk later then
Distoibed20-Nov-21 04:55 AM
A good man left
Distoibed20-Nov-21 08:38 AM
if this goes on, Asylum won't have to demod anybody since mods/jannies keep leaving
Black Lily20-Nov-21 08:47 AM
I really should just demod people for a few hours when they start doing this
Distoibed20-Nov-21 08:50 AM
I do wonder why azuth left
Black Lily20-Nov-21 08:56 AM
Probably so he doesn't fuck with the discord while drunk again
Also could be because he doesn't really care about this place
Am I allowed to, may I please know about what was talked about :^)
June20-Nov-21 03:39 PM
You are yes
Stannic20-Nov-21 03:39 PM
WHAT DID YOU MFERS SAY ABOUT ME
I BET YOU ALL CALLED ME A FUCKING RETARD
June20-Nov-21 03:39 PM
Mainly we still all think you need a break from modding and are still taking things too serious
@Stannic we said you do a good job moderating nsfw chat and deleting funny and shota so your gonna have to stay even if you want out
Dal29020-Nov-21 03:40 PM
Well thanks for getting together to talk more about information I am not included in on and allowing that kind of sentiment to grow
June20-Nov-21 03:41 PM
Because you replied to asylums post earlier about being fine with leaving(edited)
Krial20-Nov-21 03:41 PM
Ooh do me do me
He said he didn’t want to leave also I believe.
June20-Nov-21 03:41 PM
Uh
Stannic20-Nov-21 03:41 PM
I SAY WE PUT KRIAL ON A GUILLOTINE
HE'S SECRETLY FRENCH
June20-Nov-21 03:42 PM
I can't remember exactly. Invalid said he would be fine leaving or something
He was lit though
Dal29020-Nov-21 03:43 PM
I don't even know what the hell to say, I don't get a defense or the ability to speak and I am just being jabbed at by people I consider friends
June20-Nov-21 03:43 PM
Basically asylum wants to prune moderation down to the minimal amount and even considers removing everyone but him and Lily of it comes down to it
Dal29020-Nov-21 03:43 PM
Why am I irrational for being annoyed by that
I don't trust aslyum to rebuild this discord either
I banked on what I did against yuru because I trusted lily
June20-Nov-21 03:44 PM
We do consider you a friend but you come off as having a victim complex and it makes it hard to talk to you about stepping down as mood
Dal29020-Nov-21 03:44 PM
Still do
June20-Nov-21 03:44 PM
There isn't anything to rebuild
Dal29020-Nov-21 03:44 PM
This is nsfw-chat the server
It needs some work
June20-Nov-21 03:44 PM
There isn't any thread goblins to cater to
You won't close workshop
Dal29020-Nov-21 03:44 PM
Fucking christ man, I feel like I am talking to another person who just drank cool aid
June20-Nov-21 03:44 PM
We have plenty of channels for topics
Dal29020-Nov-21 03:45 PM
I am not a victim for being upset about people fucking with me or directly messing shit up
June20-Nov-21 03:45 PM
That attitude of you always being slighted for whatever we do here is what pisses me off
You act like your the sole person taking care of vrg
Dal29020-Nov-21 03:46 PM
I had to juggle around guno for a year and a half, dealt with yuru powertripping, and now Alsyum is talking to mods in closed irl circlejerks about discussions I can't participate in, and things like accidentally forgetting to invite me being a thing.
Why is that me being a dingus
June20-Nov-21 03:46 PM
Guno was a personal problem
No you were invited, and the irl talks would happen in dms anyways
Dal29020-Nov-21 03:47 PM
Not at all, you let a mod kneel on another one and compromise how they did things, I had to kick good people like johnny and ruin a bunch of people's shit to be fair to him
June20-Nov-21 03:47 PM
I told you last time to talk to everyone and fix your relationships
Dal29020-Nov-21 03:47 PM
I had to wrestle with that guy monthly
I did, I talked to everyone, including rainy
June20-Nov-21 03:47 PM
You could've brought it up to everyone
Guno
Dal29020-Nov-21 03:48 PM
I did, but as I usually have the issue of, he gets overwhelmed
Its like talking to a bomb, I can't set him off the wrong way or he gets too defensive, I have tried dozens of times in the last year
June20-Nov-21 03:49 PM
You likely just won't be able to
Dal29020-Nov-21 03:49 PM
He was comfortable fucking me over and making me dance in circles to maintain things for him and didn't realize how much stress that was putting on me
June20-Nov-21 03:49 PM
He might be holding a grudge
Dal29020-Nov-21 03:49 PM
Dude we can totally repair shit
June20-Nov-21 03:49 PM
Repair what
Meeps20-Nov-21 03:49 PM
dont think ive ever heard of anyone having issues with guno before
Dal29020-Nov-21 03:49 PM
I talked to lily about it before, and yes, I did this thing called
Keep quiet and resolve it myself the best I could(edited)
Stannic
I SAY WE PUT KRIAL ON A GUILLOTINE
Krial20-Nov-21 03:49 PM
Noh
Krial
Noh
Stannic20-Nov-21 03:50 PM
YUS
Krial20-Nov-21 03:50 PM
I don’t wish to die
Stannic20-Nov-21 03:50 PM
YOU BULLIED ME IN A HALO MATCH
Meeps20-Nov-21 03:50 PM
oh i just meant in general
Krial20-Nov-21 03:50 PM
I’m making a French dish now
Stannic20-Nov-21 03:50 PM
YOU DESERVE TO DIE
Krial20-Nov-21 03:50 PM
I will send pics when done stannic
Dal29020-Nov-21 03:50 PM
He was a good guy, nobody openly dislikes or disliked him, he can just be a lil annoying sometimes, given mod that made that issue grow out of control in VC's
Basically, don't hand moderation to a guy because he hangs out in the VCs a lot as the only reason
Stannic20-Nov-21 03:51 PM
guno has the tendency to not read the room when something is happening and it gets stupid
that's about it
June
Oh no we talked about everyone of the mods
Perrine20-Nov-21 03:52 PM
Dal29020-Nov-21 03:52 PM
Never too problematic, but it was an impossible juggle trying to deal with him forcing me to boot people, snoop would come down to chat and he would come down to threaten me "if you kick me you have to kick them"
Distoibed20-Nov-21 03:52 PM
@Dal290 if I could say one thing, I do think that nobody needs reminders of your past troubles/fights with everybody and everything every time something happens
Dal29020-Nov-21 03:54 PM
I speak out when I feel I need to, kill me
Meeps20-Nov-21 03:54 PM
we could always just vote if you guys wanna keep things democratic
June20-Nov-21 03:55 PM
That's up to asylum and he's finishing Secret santa right now
I'll bug him to get in chat soon
Dal29020-Nov-21 03:55 PM
I backed and pushed people to this discord because I was under the impression that lily was the one doing things
June20-Nov-21 03:55 PM
Lily is yes
Dal29020-Nov-21 03:55 PM
I had, and have a problem with Alsyum's assumption of power, and as I am being told right now
This
June20-Nov-21 03:55 PM
Do you now have a problem with asylum
You have been chatting to him all the times in dms instead of everyone(edited)
Dal29020-Nov-21 03:56 PM
I am being strongarmed by people who got together, drank, and sucked each other off directly involved with somebody who sat down in the admin chair
June20-Nov-21 03:56 PM
I didn't know till I got here
Dal29020-Nov-21 03:56 PM
After we just agreed we won't do that anymore
We actually voted on it
But fuck actual group decision, go off and do your own thing
June20-Nov-21 03:57 PM
Yep and guess what hasn't been happening here, any group discussions because your literally the only one who thinks things are not calm and fine right now
Dal29020-Nov-21 03:58 PM
June, what were you talking about, like, a month ago
June20-Nov-21 03:58 PM
The only thing we talked about that everyone is frustrated by is you
Dal29020-Nov-21 03:58 PM
You were talking about how sick of this place you were, and how you feel burned out
June20-Nov-21 03:58 PM
Yes
Dal29020-Nov-21 03:58 PM
Everyone who has openly admitted they are feeling burned out, is telling me that I am being too serious and looking into shit too much
June20-Nov-21 03:58 PM
This is pushing me to the point in leaving mod after this
Yes you are
Dal29020-Nov-21 03:59 PM
The fact that you guys don't see the issue with some of what is going on baffles me
June20-Nov-21 03:59 PM
What is the issue with that
Meeps20-Nov-21 03:59 PM
?
June20-Nov-21 03:59 PM
I knew you were
You are loud about it
Dal29020-Nov-21 03:59 PM
I thought %90 of people here knew and you dropped that a dozen or so times
June20-Nov-21 04:00 PM
Still, what is the issue with krial
Dal29020-Nov-21 04:00 PM
But how shit is right now, between the thread, and this discord is not kosher
Meeps20-Nov-21 04:00 PM
i mean i knew that too but idk what issues you're even talking about
June20-Nov-21 04:00 PM
What shit
Are you taking about cdub and yuki making a shit post back at 9/11 that everyone is now aware of them?
Dal29020-Nov-21 04:01 PM
Too many people in /vrg/ that use the thread consider this as asscancer
This is /vrg/'s discord, I apologize for being rude, but fuck me, we got to make sure this is well, /vrg/'s discord
June20-Nov-21 04:01 PM
The people that exclude the discord do so for a reason we can't just cater to them in the hopes of getting everyone into the 'main cord'
People don't like discord and will always consider it cancer
Dal29020-Nov-21 04:02 PM
I have seen way too many newfags jump in, ignore this place, and opt into listening to troons and joining in on shitposting
This place used to attract them and mean something for it
June20-Nov-21 04:02 PM
And? Nothing new
No it did not, we've always had a rep for bring a shithole. I just talked to three newfags at this irl meetup and they all said the same thing
Dal29020-Nov-21 04:03 PM
I don't know, I have for years been assured by people that "things are fine" with problems like k3rn and all kinds of shit, I fight what I see as an issue, this discord has issues, it's what I do.
June20-Nov-21 04:04 PM
You see problems that are not there
Dal29020-Nov-21 04:04 PM
Plz don't hit me with the take your meds
June20-Nov-21 04:04 PM
K3rn doesn't even closely compare in my eyes to anything lately
Dal29020-Nov-21 04:04 PM
I guessed a lot of issues and was given a lot of proof confirming everything I had suspicions about
June20-Nov-21 04:05 PM
Everyone saw them as a problem in the end
Dal29020-Nov-21 04:05 PM
You guys got together and talked a bunch of good rational words while drinky and look where we are
June20-Nov-21 04:05 PM
Yeah that's totally how it happened
Dal29020-Nov-21 04:05 PM
I'll stop being like this when I stop being right
June20-Nov-21 04:06 PM
One of the first things we all said was, dal is never going to let this go if we talk about anything mod related in person again
Then we proceeded to do so
Meeps20-Nov-21 04:06 PM
people from 4chan naturally dont like discord most of the time
June20-Nov-21 04:06 PM
This petty ass drama over a discord makes me so unreasonably angry
Dal29020-Nov-21 04:06 PM
Dude, I was nearly booted out in a half baked half discussed drunken thingy with half the people being told I was informed and directly lied to on multiple ends
I moved past that
Meeps20-Nov-21 04:07 PM
we're not going to kick and ban a bunch of people just because you get shitposted
Dal29020-Nov-21 04:07 PM
I juggled the guno thing for nearly a year and a half
June20-Nov-21 04:07 PM
You clearly want asylum and krial gone now that you got rid of guno finally
Dal29020-Nov-21 04:07 PM
What
No I like Krial, even Alsyum
I just don't trust aslyum for admin stuff because we are having this conversation at all
June20-Nov-21 04:07 PM
You should just say it when you have a problem with them
Exactly
Do not dm me
Or anyone
Speak up here because after this shit I'm out
Dal29020-Nov-21 04:08 PM
I'll do that next time, I just assumed things would smooth out
This might surprise you but I was making the same mistake I make with everyone, even guys like Jelly
I was trying to give him a chance
Perrine20-Nov-21 04:09 PM
what's wrong with the discord?
Dal29020-Nov-21 04:09 PM
I am in a constant struggle between listening to my pessimistic side while being optimistic, I have to choose to be irrational to fight my rationality
Perrine
what's wrong with the discord?
June20-Nov-21 04:09 PM
You tell me
Perrine20-Nov-21 04:10 PM
I dunno, seems fine to me. Just a bit of people wanting drama and caring too hard about shit that doesn't matter
but that's business as usual
June20-Nov-21 04:10 PM
That's the impression I get as well
Krial20-Nov-21 04:10 PM
my only take is i dont think that nsfw chat is a problem.
trying to control where people choose to congregate and chat is dumb as fuck
our job is very simple
delete shit that gets discord deleted
that is literally all we do. fun shit like announcements and stuff is nice but not a requirement.
Dal29020-Nov-21 04:11 PM
Nsfw-chat isn't a moderation problem, or a rule problem, its a people problem, we have people camping that long sense stopped giving a shit about vr in general
We want things to be less about gay shit all the time, remove the faggots using it as a gay hook up
ExecutiveJackbotBOT20-Nov-21 04:11 PM
I'm crying RN
Krial20-Nov-21 04:11 PM
if they choose to talk gay shit in there, then people who dont like it can choose to call them a faggot
ExecutiveJackbotBOT20-Nov-21 04:11 PM
Das racist... wait no it's not
Krial20-Nov-21 04:11 PM
its supposed to be an unmoderated shithole
Dal29020-Nov-21 04:11 PM
@June my alarms got triggered when I heard about Jhin crawling all over people in the other event and harrassing people
Krial20-Nov-21 04:12 PM
which unironically is the appeal of 4chan
Perrine20-Nov-21 04:12 PM
So you don't like the people that are in the server
Krial20-Nov-21 04:12 PM
its an undermoderated shithole
Perrine20-Nov-21 04:12 PM
?
Dal29020-Nov-21 04:12 PM
I do take this shit seriously because we have people actually crawling out of the motherfucking screens to do gay shit that are not supposed to be here
Krial20-Nov-21 04:12 PM
i have to continue cooking now
Dal29020-Nov-21 04:12 PM
I view that as a problem
Dal290
I do take this shit seriously because we have people actually crawling out of the motherfucking screens to do gay shit that are not supposed to be here
June20-Nov-21 04:12 PM
The hell does that even mean
Meeps20-Nov-21 04:13 PM
what can we do as discord mods to stop him from going to meetups and being gay
Dal29020-Nov-21 04:13 PM
Jhin was dragged in from Dot, we do a lot of IRL events
I just want to make sure the filter is better so we don't have that issue
Perrine20-Nov-21 04:13 PM
You can't just get rid of people for liking things you don't like
Dal29020-Nov-21 04:13 PM
It isn't just a dinky lil internet thing
June20-Nov-21 04:13 PM
Some actually gay vrg have gay sex at irl meetups and suddenly it's a culture problem we the mods have to fix?
Dal29020-Nov-21 04:13 PM
It has IRL consequences
Perrine20-Nov-21 04:13 PM
Half Life Consequences?
Meeps20-Nov-21 04:13 PM
we arent going to ban him but even if we did how would that solve your issue of him going to irl meetups and being gay
June20-Nov-21 04:14 PM
Okay Mr leader, we will start executing the gays
You will the last one alive in vrg
Meeps
we arent going to ban him but even if we did how would that solve your issue of him going to irl meetups and being gay
Dal29020-Nov-21 04:14 PM
This discord directly funnels people into this stuff and makes them feel accepted
And no not all gays dingus
Dal290
This discord directly funnels people into this stuff and makes them feel accepted
Perrine20-Nov-21 04:14 PM
Citation needed
Dal29020-Nov-21 04:14 PM
At least the ones that snuck in because they heard it is a neat hookup
Like shit
Dal290
This discord directly funnels people into this stuff and makes them feel accepted
June20-Nov-21 04:14 PM
And why is that our problem
Dal29020-Nov-21 04:15 PM
Because everyone here wants to call this the /vrg/ discord
This kind of is
June20-Nov-21 04:15 PM
Are we the sole upholders of the 'culture'
Meeps20-Nov-21 04:15 PM
jhin has been going to the vrchat meetups for years, us banning him wouldnt change that
June20-Nov-21 04:15 PM
Are we really the ones that get to decide this
Meeps20-Nov-21 04:15 PM
and he was going to meetups before discord anyways
Dal29020-Nov-21 04:15 PM
It can make it h arder
Ach harder
You guys keep saying people getting banned doesn't exclude people that slipped past the cracks then you get tiger asking where the heck the halloween event is
I'm not trying to ask for executions or act too crazy, I am just concerned about my friends and the people some others are dragging in
June20-Nov-21 04:16 PM
Tiger could get info from the thread but he never browsed it(edited)
Dal29020-Nov-21 04:17 PM
Exactly, what makes you think half these chicken shits want to go to the thread
June20-Nov-21 04:17 PM
Who knows and it would be stupid to bet on something we don't know
Dal29020-Nov-21 04:18 PM
I didn't go to the florida meet because of that shit
June20-Nov-21 04:18 PM
Of I got banned I would check the thread for events (I already check it so nothing new)
Dal29020-Nov-21 04:18 PM
I just don't feel comfortable with the folks trickling in
June20-Nov-21 04:18 PM
Wow
You have a really warped perspective of what happens
At irl
Dal29020-Nov-21 04:18 PM
I wanted to go to this one because it appeared to have a better filter
June20-Nov-21 04:19 PM
It actually didn't
We had lots of newfags at this one I have zero knowledge of
Stannic20-Nov-21 04:19 PM
is this the wired perspectve of everything being gay at these meetups
June20-Nov-21 04:19 PM
And guess what
Everyone is a chill adult having a great time together
Stannic20-Nov-21 04:19 PM
because wired has a hard time shutting the fuck up about anything happening irl
Stannic
is this the wired perspectve of everything being gay at these meetups
Dal29020-Nov-21 04:19 PM
I talked to multiple people who went to the Florida one
of course Wired doesn't go to irl events lol
Like fuck I am sorry if I believe people, shit just has me concerned
June20-Nov-21 04:20 PM
We played fucking giant Jenga, cards against humanity, danced to mona irl djing
And drank
And smoked cigars
That's it
Dal29020-Nov-21 04:21 PM
I know, I wish I could have been there
Meeps20-Nov-21 04:21 PM
the rumor going around about the florida meet was that 5ppl got aids lol but who would believe that
Dal290
I know, I wish I could have been there
June20-Nov-21 04:21 PM
You could've if you ever responded to my dms
Meeps
the rumor going around about the florida meet was that 5ppl got aids lol but who would believe that
Dal29020-Nov-21 04:21 PM
bomber and others talked about their experiences
Meeps
the rumor going around about the florida meet was that 5ppl got aids lol but who would believe that
Stannic20-Nov-21 04:21 PM
what
Dal29020-Nov-21 04:21 PM
Unless they are directly lying to me I doubt it
Meeps20-Nov-21 04:21 PM
i heard it too
June20-Nov-21 04:21 PM
That's just shitposting
Meeps20-Nov-21 04:22 PM
it's bs
Stannic20-Nov-21 04:22 PM
iirc what i heard is that jhin was aggressive but that's about it
Dal29020-Nov-21 04:22 PM
Idk I guess I could be worked up over dumb shit again
I just have a lot of information coming my way lately
June20-Nov-21 04:22 PM
He got aggressive when drunk
Dal29020-Nov-21 04:22 PM
Its hard to parse it all
June20-Nov-21 04:22 PM
Basically nothing
Stannic20-Nov-21 04:22 PM
the gay shit is easily avoidable depending on how drunk and what house you're in
Stannic
the gay shit is easily avoidable depending on how drunk and what house you're in
Distoibed20-Nov-21 04:23 PM
harry potter shit
Dal29020-Nov-21 04:23 PM
I want people to have fun and not deal with bullshit, and I am good at punching it, so I do it
Meeps20-Nov-21 04:23 PM
hahaha just stay away from the gay house?
Distoibed
harry potter shit
Stannic20-Nov-21 04:23 PM
GOD DAMMIT HARRY YOU'VE BEEN IN HUFFLEPUFF AGAIN
Dal29020-Nov-21 04:23 PM
Sorry I am well, me
June20-Nov-21 04:23 PM
We literally split the houses so the halo house was all chill bros
It was literally a frat house
Stannic20-Nov-21 04:24 PM
this is people complaining about gay shit happening in the known gay house with all the gay residents
I know you guys want to talk about other shit but I don't know how to else to say this, but I'll say it again, I have an unstable trust with aslyum, but I do trust lily
If you push this crap I am kind of out of the discord main game for good
June20-Nov-21 04:25 PM
Yep
Enjoy your workshop discord
Dal29020-Nov-21 04:27 PM
Which is what you want and have wanted, I don't know why you guys are so uppity about wearing multiple hats
Thanks for the gaslight I guess
June20-Nov-21 04:30 PM
Nah I don't want anything other than you to relax
I do want to be free of this drama
Dal29020-Nov-21 04:30 PM
This is the opposite of relaxing
June20-Nov-21 04:30 PM
Yes
Dal29020-Nov-21 04:30 PM
I need to get on with my life and you guys wasted the last hunk of free time I had being untrusting and jerking each other off
June20-Nov-21 04:31 PM
I am very not relaxed and I'm using up the last of my PTO to be here
Dal29020-Nov-21 04:31 PM
You think I am happy that a friend was manipulated to deliver a message on some other fuckers behalf
I don't trust aslyum because he couldn't do this himself
June20-Nov-21 04:31 PM
What about my perspective
Dal29020-Nov-21 04:31 PM
And he can't
June20-Nov-21 04:32 PM
Have you ever thought about how this looks from third party
Dal29020-Nov-21 04:32 PM
This place will literally go to shit if that is what everyone has to look forward to
Like fuck you were done so bad you thought I don't like Krial
I fucking love him like what the hell kind of shit were you told
June20-Nov-21 04:33 PM
About how petty and dumb your obsession over this discord is. How you have acted just like Ryder with your workshop discord over a grudge with guno and yuru running the last discord into the ground
Dal290
I fucking love him like what the hell kind of shit were you told
June20-Nov-21 04:33 PM
Nah that's the impression you give dal.
Not what I've been told
Which I don't believe
Perrine20-Nov-21 04:33 PM
Dal, I'm not sure why you always think the sky is falling
Dal29020-Nov-21 04:34 PM
I didn't create workshop over a grudge, I just wanted to make sure dumb shit didn't bleed into my operating it, I still wanted to, and intend to try and support this one
I was promised something, manipulated and lied to for an extended period of time
Like damn
June20-Nov-21 04:35 PM
Which from my pov is you wanting to be a leader fag
Aka a powergrab
Thought that from the start
Dal29020-Nov-21 04:35 PM
June20-Nov-21 04:35 PM
You always liked leading in the past so it makes sense in my mind
Perrine20-Nov-21 04:35 PM
That's kind of what all this constantly points to in my mind too, I dunno
June20-Nov-21 04:36 PM
That was before all of this as well
I'm fine with it as long as you see it that way sometimes
Dal29020-Nov-21 04:36 PM
I am annoyed by people judging me by surface level appearances after I kill myself subverting expectations
Perrine20-Nov-21 04:37 PM
the only thing we can use to judge you are the words and actions you express to us
Dal29020-Nov-21 04:37 PM
I created a discord and threatened some egos from my perspective, I am trying not to view it that way myself, I trust you guys
Dal290
I am annoyed by people judging me by surface level appearances after I kill myself subverting expectations
June20-Nov-21 04:38 PM
You also always talk about how it's your personal sacrifice, which is a classic victim card. Which I get is grounded in a real thing. But you say it so much it's actually annoying as hell
Perrine20-Nov-21 04:38 PM
I dunno. I just wish you could produce a concrete list of problems and solutions instead of talking nebulously about people you don't like, culture you don't like, and how the mods and admins are bad for not creating a solution to your problems.
Dal29020-Nov-21 04:38 PM
Halo guys have their shit, aslyum and multiple people hung in oku's house, and a lot of people have their own circles
June20-Nov-21 04:39 PM
Yes we are full of sub cultures
Dal29020-Nov-21 04:39 PM
I can't help that I created one and it became what it did
Perrine20-Nov-21 04:39 PM
Eh, don't really care either way about the existence of a dal workshop discord
doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things, it's just another place made by people who wanted another place.
Dal29020-Nov-21 04:39 PM
Exactly
It doesn't feel that way from perspectives while we are talking about that
Perrine20-Nov-21 04:40 PM
You have to consider that your perspective is going to be biased, and whatever history you have will--rightfully or wrongfully--make you read into things in certain ways.
Dal29020-Nov-21 04:41 PM
Well I have always done actions without explaining it, I don't want to involve people in dumb drama or shit I view as I can handle myself
Even years back, I got into the ULF thing because Jelly would have been the person speaking for /vrg/ if that dumb shit took off, and everyone hated me for it, and viewed it as some alternative move
I have been building up years of dumb shit and people assuming stuff against me, I'll do the evil victim card here and say I thought people interested in moderation would assume I had good reasons for doing what I do and trust me as I trusted them.
Perrine20-Nov-21 04:42 PM
Not to be rude, Dal, but I don't know if this is relevant for the current discussion. At the core of it, you think something is wrong with this discord, right? Can you articulate those concerns into actionable items?
You don't need to have the solutions, but if you can put your concerns into a list we can think about, that's more helpful.
Dal29020-Nov-21 04:43 PM
I just did, we have too many people camping around that are not really /vrg/, people here are interested in calling this the /vrg/ discord while brushing off gatekeeping or filtering, I view things as so bad we had some dude crawling on people because they assumed this was the gay hookup place. Is it more then that or not.
Perrine20-Nov-21 04:44 PM
I'm not sure how these things are actionable.
Dal29020-Nov-21 04:44 PM
Nobody wants to budge out people who gave up on the concept long ago as well, we have to do that otherwise this devolves, as long as people are calling this the /vrg/ discord, it needs to make an effort to be it
Perrine20-Nov-21 04:45 PM
You say that there are too many people here who aren't /vrg/. What makes a person /vrg/?
Dal29020-Nov-21 04:45 PM
Boot guys like cryptic, stop trying to budge me out for grudges and perceived bullshit, I just want to stick around to say what I see no other people are saying, on the previous course they would have handed this shit to Orb during that dumb election shit.
I do not trust Aslyum for bending a few times to drama and not keeping it together as well as not communicating well enough, if we go that route this will ruin this discord to circlejerk pre established relationship mods vs actual mods based on moderation.
I'll buckle on being a dingus when I am given proof of doing anything other then, well, what I came here to do
Perrine
You say that there are too many people here who aren't /vrg/. What makes a person /vrg/?
Dal29020-Nov-21 04:48 PM
I think the prereqs are simple, they chan and/or vr, we have dropped that entirely and let too many camp around
Perrine20-Nov-21 04:49 PM
So they must either use 4chan or use VR. Who doesn't meet that criteria?
Dal29020-Nov-21 04:50 PM
God forbid, the VR is an important one, you guys can check usage according to the bot that was made a long time ago, it was turned off I believe
If somebody spends every waking minute spamming porn and from your VRC and other interactions, you know they don't or haven't played in years, why are they here
June20-Nov-21 04:54 PM
So you want to remove crypt and a few others
What else
Perrine20-Nov-21 04:54 PM
Do they not meet that criteria?
Dal didn't say.
Dal29020-Nov-21 04:54 PM
They don't, he sticks around to bug mods, but noticed sucking them off is a better idea
People who were under threat of being booted during the weird change/nuke shifted from telling jannies to die, to sucking up to them
Perrine20-Nov-21 04:55 PM
Okay, make the list of people that need to be removed.
If they don't use either 4chan or VR, as you said, then maybe they do need to be removed.
Dal29020-Nov-21 04:56 PM
That is the issue though, why would I continue to keep giving out when from all acounts, they intend to nyx me because I dare give a fuck about things, and I did with tiger
Almost half of the old moderation hates my guts because I dared tell yuru he was crazy for offering to let jelly back in and thinking shit like tiger and others was cool
Perrine20-Nov-21 04:57 PM
Dal, you can't both complain that there are people that need to be removed from the server, and say you won't tell us who these people are, then blame us for inaction.
Well. I mean. You can.
But that looks poorly upon yourself and your argument.
Dal29020-Nov-21 04:57 PM
I already voiced them over time, I don't keep my nazi extermination list on me at all times
I apologize
Perrine20-Nov-21 04:57 PM
Well, do you have any other things you think can be acted upon?
Dal29020-Nov-21 04:58 PM
Things would work better if we had the jannie/mod list cleaned up, the gatekeeping would work better if we actually had more accountability for who was being let in, we voted on that kind of, but obviously it is too late
We had discussed a boot/revetting of all people before the nuke, and when this one was created, the floodgates were just opened
Rydercord complicated things, and from everyone thinking I want to powervacuum or some shit, they are afraid I'll yoink up people or something
Despite me actually funneling people into this one when it got nuked and doing the opposite
Perrine20-Nov-21 04:59 PM
What is currently wrong with the mod/jannie list?
Dal29020-Nov-21 05:00 PM
We need an actual moderation team, not just popular bros and shit
Vetting being handled wrong+discussions being derailed or treated this or that way
Perrine20-Nov-21 05:01 PM
What does the actual moderation team do, in your opinion?
Dal29020-Nov-21 05:01 PM
VRChats moderation did that move a while ago, they separated their community upper people from their actual moderation team
Well like I said before, I got shit for this, but when we have something as large as a "should we ban X" "should we demote X" "should we filter this word" or "do we do X in general"
We need to have people willing to discuss it, and there to actually do it, half the people are burned out and just want people like me to like, shut up and stop talking and stuff
I butted heads with Rainy at first, but I actually like her a lot more now, she was butted against a few too many times, I am responsible for that as well
June20-Nov-21 05:03 PM
Yep
Dal29020-Nov-21 05:03 PM
This all has me concerned because everything to do with moderation is involved in socialite engineering shit and miscommunication rather then a team of people who, well, moderate
Meeps20-Nov-21 05:04 PM
so you dont want us to vote, you want us to just do whatever you want
Dal290
This all has me concerned because everything to do with moderation is involved in socialite engineering shit and miscommunication rather then a team of people who, well, moderate
June20-Nov-21 05:04 PM
Which is what I bought up last time when I had to stick up for you
Dal29020-Nov-21 05:05 PM
I want people around who can do things so I can feel comfortable jumping ship for literally a year+2 comfortably
I know this might surprise you guys but I did actually intend to step away on my own accord to get some shit sorted out
I didn't get that chance because everyone is jumping at the first excuse to jab me
June20-Nov-21 05:05 PM
It doesn't, and it also doesn't change anything
Dal29020-Nov-21 05:06 PM
I'm just sour that I am being told I am evil for giving a shit
June20-Nov-21 05:06 PM
There is a lot more nuance than just that
Dal29020-Nov-21 05:07 PM
I had you butt against me like this because of kool aid you were given and perspectives you were told to look at a certain way
At its core, I am being told I should take a breather because I want to make sure shit is working right
June20-Nov-21 05:08 PM
That's how you see it yes
Dal29020-Nov-21 05:08 PM
That doesn't, nor did it ever sit well with me, and I feel you are manipulated, as well as I
June20-Nov-21 05:09 PM
It's really insulting to keep saying that over and over like I'm some npc that can't think and form my own opinions(edited)
Meeps20-Nov-21 05:09 PM
well, the discord is going to be fine
Dal29020-Nov-21 05:09 PM
I am sorry for being rude, but you are telling me BLM man
Meeps20-Nov-21 05:09 PM
we can assure you that
Dal29020-Nov-21 05:10 PM
I've heard it before
Meeps20-Nov-21 05:10 PM
it's still fine, it may not be exactly what you want it to be and you may not be able to ban or silence whoever you want, but you have your own discord for that right?
you cant even tell us what you think is wrong with the discord besides "trust me its bad and you need me here for it i need to save everyone"
Dal29020-Nov-21 05:11 PM
If you ignore the paragraphs of what I just typed is wrong sure I could see it that way
Meeps20-Nov-21 05:12 PM
we cant really control what people do at irl meetups nor would we want to
Dal29020-Nov-21 05:12 PM
I don't ban or silence people, I clean up shitters you guys are too afraid to clean out
You bring up a single one of the bans I did and tell me I was wrong
Perrine20-Nov-21 05:14 PM
Okay, I have some suggestions.
For entry/vetting/cleanup, we can take a census via google forms.
https://forms.gle/7EnzB2kwYPNNVrmn9
I don't think you can do anything more than this to alter or influence the culture, and doing a form like this is already questionable for 4chan.
---
You can make this discord have some harder, more formal moderation decisions. I propose maintaining a server-wide "No RP or Hookups" rule, "No ping or regular spam" rule. Other than that, common sense moderation in 4chan terms, with the NSFW category being our unmoderated /b/ channel.
And give the mods an explicit mandate to enforce it.
---
These two proposals are all that I can see that could be enacted to address Dal's concerns, and can be voted upon.
You desire your opinion to be enforced without being enforced
Dal29020-Nov-21 05:15 PM
And I am being silenced for having it basically(edited)
Meeps20-Nov-21 05:15 PM
that's not just an opinion that's a demand
June20-Nov-21 05:16 PM
You can have an opinion, so does everyone
Meeps20-Nov-21 05:16 PM
do this or i leave!
Perrine20-Nov-21 05:16 PM
...People having differing opinions does not mean your opinion is silenced.
Meeps20-Nov-21 05:16 PM
you did the same shit before
Perrine20-Nov-21 05:16 PM
Dal, as you seem to reject the idea of having formal rules and moderation, can I assume that this means you do not want that change voted upon?
Meeps20-Nov-21 05:16 PM
we can vote, but you dont want a vote because you know what you want will lose
Meeps
do this or i leave!
Dal29020-Nov-21 05:16 PM
Well, at least within the VC even thing I was doing, yeah I wanted to operate it the way I wanted to
I compromised with guno for like, nearly two years and I get nothin because I didn't bitch enough
Meeps20-Nov-21 05:17 PM
you want what you want and if you dont get it we're all wrong and you're the victim
which is fine, i think everyone here is just done with it
Perrine
Dal, as you seem to reject the idea of having formal rules and moderation, can I assume that this means you do not want that change voted upon?
Dal29020-Nov-21 05:18 PM
The people responsible for moderation should be responsible moderators, common sense should be applied to situations by people willing to put in effort
I'm facing the issue of let it cruise vs stop talking about things >:I
Dal290
The people responsible for moderation should be responsible moderators, common sense should be applied to situations by people willing to put in effort
Perrine20-Nov-21 05:18 PM
That is not an answer to my question...
June20-Nov-21 05:18 PM
That doesn't make sense for how they would moderate
We had the no rules moderation in the past
Dal29020-Nov-21 05:18 PM
Moderation is directly involved with smoking cigars and shaking hands behind a literal fucking house
Meeps20-Nov-21 05:19 PM
by "common sense" you mean the way you want it
so what
Dal29020-Nov-21 05:19 PM
Thats skewed
June20-Nov-21 05:19 PM
Then people got pissy about x mod doing things and timing out people but others didn't
Perrine20-Nov-21 05:19 PM
Dal, unless you say otherwise, I'm going to assume that you do not find that to be a solution and do not want it voted upon.
June20-Nov-21 05:19 PM
Ah so if we got into vrg in a public instance and chatted about it would it be any different?
There are two distinct proposals here that I'm talking about.
Dal29020-Nov-21 05:20 PM
Yee I am just confused batting between three people sorry
Give me a sec
June20-Nov-21 05:20 PM
You are not battling, we are discussing difficult topics
Dal29020-Nov-21 05:20 PM
Nah I said batting
I honestly think discussion is important, stressful or otherwise
Especially this one
Boiled down, the people voting right now are directly influenced by social ties, and the whole thing is based on who sucked whos dick early /vrg/. Moderation needs to be about moderating, if Yuki played his shit right he could be a mod right now basically. Hell I am a fucking mod, I am sketchy at best, but so is everybody here. I, while having a discord, am struggling to tell you guys to fuck off for getting on, and you guys are struggling to find an excuse to tell me to fuck off. I don't view this as an issue personally, but obviously from outside perspectives it is. I do not have all of the answers to this shit, but one thing I know for sure, is neither does everybody, which is why we need to talk about it. What I fear, is you guys want to rush things along because you don't want to stress or deal with it, is that really the direction you want things to go.
Perrine20-Nov-21 05:28 PM
Okay. How about the first proposal with the form? Do you think we should vote to enact that?
Dal29020-Nov-21 05:29 PM
I don't %100 trust aslyum, I trust lily, but he is obviously burnt out on his own end
I say, lets fucking discuss it here, since obviously magical super jannies are not going to show up to fill in the slots, people with initiative are few and fare between, I would urge people who are sick of talking about moderation, to stop moderating, but that is merely a request. Not a solution, but obviously the same few people are going to be in /vrg/, myself included
Meeps20-Nov-21 05:31 PM
there's just a major difference in philosophy. you think we should use discord as a tool to somehow gate the community as a whole, including the vr meetups and even irl
Perrine20-Nov-21 05:31 PM
....So you're concerned about the server and its moderators, you feel that things are fundamentally broken
But you have no concrete examples of what's wrong, you can't tell us any specific items that need to change, and you cannot tell us who is problematic.
And when asked to judge others' concrete proposals, you refuse to comment on them
???
Dal, you're bordering on just being a concern troll.
Meeps20-Nov-21 05:32 PM
and i dont think anyone else thinks we as discord mods should have any sort of power or pull over who goes to meetups and who is friends with who
so those 2 viewpoints just wont mesh(edited)
Meeps
and i dont think anyone else thinks we as discord mods should have any sort of power or pull over who goes to meetups and who is friends with who
Dal29020-Nov-21 05:33 PM
That trip up on we shouldn't has made problems for me and many others for too long, we need to tighten up or we are going to keep losing good people
Perrine20-Nov-21 05:34 PM
I assume at this point Dal will just continue to ignore anything I say. I'm having difficulty believing that this is all being brought up in good faith anymore, to be honest.
Dal29020-Nov-21 05:34 PM
You are right though, the question of who should belong is really hard to answer, and like I mentioned with influence, anybody could start shaping /vrg/
Perrine
I assume at this point Dal will just continue to ignore anything I say. I'm having difficulty believing that this is all being brought up in good faith anymore, to be honest.
Dal29020-Nov-21 05:34 PM
I can only type so fast sorry Xy
Meeps20-Nov-21 05:34 PM
he doesnt want any votes because it wont win
Dal29020-Nov-21 05:35 PM
I think it has already been shaped though
Meeps
he doesnt want any votes because it wont win
Perrine20-Nov-21 05:35 PM
He hasn't even brought up any concrete problems, votable or otherwise.
Meeps20-Nov-21 05:35 PM
i mean at what point do you look at yourself and think maybe it's you who doesn't belong
Perrine20-Nov-21 05:35 PM
Not even a "These votes won't go in my favor, because the moderation staff needs to have x happen first"
Dal29020-Nov-21 05:35 PM
4chan is literally the misfits gang, none of us belong otherwise you wouldn't be here
Perrine20-Nov-21 05:35 PM
He refuses to be nailed down to any firm, concrete opinions or ideas.
Meeps20-Nov-21 05:35 PM
we cant control people shitposting you in the thread, we cant stop it
we cant stop people from going to meetups because you dont like them
irl or in vr
Dal29020-Nov-21 05:36 PM
I don't care about who shitpost me, I only ever was concerned about people using Jelly as a lolcow and pushing the guy to suicide
Meeps20-Nov-21 05:36 PM
???
Dal29020-Nov-21 05:36 PM
People did and have gone to far with that and are a little too sadistic
Perrine20-Nov-21 05:36 PM
Trying to bait this server into becoming something that isn't 4chan through vague claims and emotions isn't going to help anyone or anything.
Dal29020-Nov-21 05:37 PM
Perrine I can only answer things as one person
Contrary to popular belief I am one guy give me a sec
Perrine20-Nov-21 05:37 PM
And you continue to choose to engage in a more emotional and nebulous discussion instead of a practical one
You have asked me to give you time to respond multiple times
Dal290
I don't care about who shitpost me, I only ever was concerned about people using Jelly as a lolcow and pushing the guy to suicide
Black Lily20-Nov-21 05:37 PM
But you were the one talking shit about him all the time
Perrine20-Nov-21 05:37 PM
and refused to respond afterward
Black Lily
But you were the one talking shit about him all the time
Dal29020-Nov-21 05:37 PM
What you say to others differs from what people directly do
You know the fuckers who liked going out of their way to poke that guy among other issues
Black Lily20-Nov-21 05:38 PM
People would have forgotten about Jelly and left him alsome by now if you didn't constantly bring him up
Dal29020-Nov-21 05:38 PM
This is the first time I brought that guy up in nearly a year
Black Lily20-Nov-21 05:38 PM
Bullshit
Perrine20-Nov-21 05:38 PM
I'm currently of the opinion that engaging with Dal any further is just fruitless, unless he brings up any firm, actionable suggestions or opinions.
Black Lily20-Nov-21 05:39 PM
You bting him up constantly
Dal29020-Nov-21 05:39 PM
Dude people make jelly jokes and I back out of them
Come on
Black Lily20-Nov-21 05:39 PM
In my dms with you alone every time we talk you being up jelly
I'm told by people in your workshop that you bring up jelly almost every night
Dal29020-Nov-21 05:39 PM
Oh fuck off, that is rumor
Perrine20-Nov-21 05:40 PM
Lily, I'm not sure this conversation matters
Dal29020-Nov-21 05:40 PM
People talk shit about me surprise surprise
Anybody else down to pull out the whip and take a lick at me damn
I had like five people all start bopping at me excuse me for cracking a joke about how uncomfortable that makes me
After, think 2 hours of that, I am going to brb to go get some food, I prod guilt from people doing shit that is rude from my perspective, I do harp on that shit defensively, don't know what else to do, just kinda happens, guess call me out on it and I'll see if I can pay attention.
You guys called me out on being an asshole to Rainy and to talk to people, I did, and it kind of worked, you were right about carl and other things, I don't know why shit gets so hostile but I want to develop and understand differing perspectives better, consider that before aiming for the easy fuck off button.
Perrine20-Nov-21 05:52 PM
I hope that you will find time to address me soon.
Dal29020-Nov-21 05:52 PM
I am a bit hungry so I can't type as fast as I normally do, I'll try and discuss things better when I get back.
Perrine20-Nov-21 05:52 PM
Do so with me in DM, not here.
You are too easily distracted by others.
Dal29020-Nov-21 05:53 PM
:okay:
Azuth20-Nov-21 06:41 PM
hey all, didn't leave for any drama reasons, I joined the floor pisser's club while shitfaced and left out of sheer drunken embarrassment
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Dal29020-Nov-21 06:42 PM
Heya, people are trying to instigate me to get me to say something stupid or demoddable again, I already said I would leave in a half baked threat
It is nearly baking to a full baked at this rate
Stannic20-Nov-21 07:15 PM
except me i'm trying to instigate dal into saying things
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#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<320-Nov-21 08:05 PM
Can we be adults and not a bunch of whining children for once?
You will never agree with someone 100 percent of the time. It is a discord server not a South American country that just went through a coup d'état. No reason to be mad or have this level dick measuring. Calm the fuck down and post sober.
June21-Nov-21 12:20 AM
Yep agreed @#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3
Stannic21-Nov-21 01:31 PM
I DON'T AGREE
MURDER MAIM KILL
Distoibed21-Nov-21 01:36 PM
Next internet argument should involve soyjaks
Stannic21-Nov-21 01:36 PM
Dal29021-Nov-21 06:14 PM
For anybody interested, do make an effort to talk to me personally, I am once again feeling the fun of miscommunication and blockading hitting me. Get to me in the next day or so please, or blow me off again, doesn't matter at this rate.
June21-Nov-21 06:48 PM
We're busy still
I'll be home Wednesday
Most Thursday
Krial21-Nov-21 09:40 PM
Well
I don’t get why a community so tight knit and close has to fight all the time.
Seems pointless.
./a.out21-Nov-21 09:42 PM
people take shit too seriously. literally all we gotta do is remove shit that gets the server nuked and vet people, yet people wanna start playground level shit-flinging
Black Lily21-Nov-21 09:47 PM
@mod@jannie I know dal already left but the vote goes on #mod-voting
Fuck Tiger
./a.out21-Nov-21 09:48 PM
Tiger's a bitch
Meeps21-Nov-21 09:48 PM
eh worth the vote since he was the only one who cared enough to ban him
Too many mods/jannies exist. I will relieve people of their service for thanksgiving next week. After that we will introduce more jannies and have the cycle continue. Anyone who wants to volunteer to be removed, let me know.
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I guess I need to put mod chat back to private.
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That will be a problem.
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I'm just along for the ride. lol
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Unless you mean we have two different roles?
But short of all of us going to Telegram there's no real solution other than to delete certain messages after 48 hours.
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But I feel like if we're going to be kicking users on an aggressive timetable based solely on Discord activity, it could look bad unless we're transparent about why and how that is happening.
dont give a reason for people to bitch at me
it was a joke
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What is that even?
Fufu
June offering me PP, eh?
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You have to be in a voice channel to use this command.
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on dedicated #promotion channel and 
on using #nsfw-chat for this purpose and if they got a problem with it then fuck off?
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imagine if this is real
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Explained a lot to me about why G&S viewership plummeted lmao
Oh yeah and they had no idea it came from 4chan, I had to explain it. They were saying it was clearly verbiage intended to "demean" them.
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