Virtual Reality General

./a.out 19-May-21 08:08 PM

First

🔇 19-May-21 08:08 PM

Azuth 19-May-21 09:51 PM

>admin role

uhhhhh you know jannies are supposed to be below mods right

🔇 19-May-21 09:56 PM

(:

i dont care i paid you for your services

Azuth 19-May-21 09:57 PM

fine

you get one mod action for every pocket

that's 12 starting now

./a.out 19-May-21 11:46 PM

I might make a castrated version of jackbot to remove cancerous features from it, as well as make it a bit more tailored to regular servers, so if you guys have any ideas for commands or automatic mod tools lemme know and I can code them in

🔇 19-May-21 11:46 PM

i think swapping roles with a timer to swap back would be good, maybe even log those somewhere for future viewing?

Mumu from NYC 19-May-21 11:49 PM

./a.out 19-May-21 11:57 PM

ahh so like swapping someone to "timeout" and have it automatically put them back after x time?

I can do that

🔇 19-May-21 11:58 PM

ye

time should probably be days

instead of standard seconds/hours

./a.out 19-May-21 11:58 PM

yea, days would be a lot easier to implement. Won't have to keep track of 30 timers lol

🔇 19-May-21 11:59 PM

ye

Stannic 20-May-21 12:02 AM

whos admin

Mumu from NYC 20-May-21 12:02 AM

PANIC

🔇 20-May-21 12:02 AM

no more admin

Mumu from NYC 20-May-21 12:02 AM

no admins no masters

🔇 20-May-21 12:02 AM

Stannic 20-May-21 12:02 AM

am i allowed to kick yuru on sight

🔇 20-May-21 12:02 AM

no

Stannic 20-May-21 12:02 AM

Mumu from NYC 20-May-21 12:03 AM

.timeout stannic 100y

🔇 20-May-21 12:03 AM

jannies cant kick

Mumu from NYC 20-May-21 12:03 AM

Stannic 20-May-21 12:03 AM

might wanna fix that

🔇 20-May-21 12:03 AM

oh

okay

Mumu from NYC 20-May-21 12:03 AM

oh based

🔇 20-May-21 12:04 AM

fixed

Stannic 20-May-21 12:04 AM

ye

🔇 20-May-21 12:04 AM

you can change peoples names instead

Mumu from NYC 20-May-21 12:04 AM

Stannic 20-May-21 12:04 AM

time to rename yuru to failed grifter or third rate lawyer if they show their faces

(edited)

Mumu from NYC 20-May-21 12:05 AM

!

now i have the power.

can the bot blacklist names

please blacklist that

🔇 20-May-21 12:05 AM

idk, let me see if i can set that in dyno

Stannic 20-May-21 12:05 AM

i mean if it supports regex it should be !**

Mumu from NYC 20-May-21 12:06 AM

get on it vc codemonkey

🔇 20-May-21 12:08 AM

dont think theres a thing for automatically changing peoples names in dyno

or blacklisting a name

Mumu from NYC 20-May-21 12:09 AM

blacklisting was the wrong word

Stannic 20-May-21 12:09 AM

can always give them der juden star

Mumu from NYC 20-May-21 12:09 AM

Stannic 20-May-21 12:09 AM

So they can't change their name

it'll make idiots like cryptic feel special inside

🔇 20-May-21 12:10 AM

discord doesnt allow turning off permissions after theyve been granted

Stannic 20-May-21 12:10 AM

ah

🔇 20-May-21 12:10 AM

which is dumb af

Mumu from NYC 20-May-21 12:10 AM

you need to turn this off too

nvm

Azuth 20-May-21 12:11 AM

so out of curiosity

how likely is it that this server will need to be used?

🔇 20-May-21 12:12 AM

uhh based on current discussions......

mildly to high?

Azuth 20-May-21 12:12 AM

Mumu from NYC 20-May-21 12:12 AM

for a second there it let me add people to jannie

🔇 20-May-21 12:13 AM

uhh, you shouldnt be able to add jannie to people

Mumu from NYC 20-May-21 12:13 AM

yeah, i tried it anyway didn't work

https://i.imgur.com/GBh8fSU.png feedback

🔇 20-May-21 12:14 AM

oh okay

Mumu from NYC 20-May-21 12:14 AM

alright time to start stealing emoji

🔇 20-May-21 12:15 AM

do it kthx

Stannic 20-May-21 12:15 AM

either mass exodus or it's gonna be split between order vrg or chaos vrg discord

Azuth 20-May-21 12:16 AM

Perrine 20-May-21 12:17 AM

I do it for free

Stannic

either mass exodus or it's gonna be split between order vrg or chaos vrg discord

Perrine 20-May-21 12:17 AM

honestly this seems fine

Azuth 20-May-21 12:17 AM

I just wanna grill for god's sake

Perrine 20-May-21 12:17 AM

the split I mean. Except that people will probably try and treat it as two separate rivals instead of just two places for the same group :V

Stannic 20-May-21 12:18 AM

blame yuru for having their head so far up their own ass to think elections was a good idea after a meltie and then themselves meltying out of the discord

🔇 20-May-21 12:18 AM

too late for that ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Azuth

I just wanna grill for god's sake

Perrine 20-May-21 12:18 AM

Based

Mumu from NYC 20-May-21 12:18 AM

uh

Perrine 20-May-21 12:18 AM

Yeah that was not the right response, not at that timing. There's a point where mods need to actually moderate and clean up messes, not validate 'em

Mumu from NYC 20-May-21 12:19 AM

post the ones you want to bring over i guess

me lazy me janny

🔇 20-May-21 12:19 AM

if this does actually become maincord because of some shitpost ill have to remove mod/jannie from those that i added tho

Mumu from NYC 20-May-21 12:19 AM

Perrine 20-May-21 12:19 AM

is what I use the most tbh

Azuth 20-May-21 12:19 AM

it always bugged me that vrg's pain emoji has a background

Mumu from NYC 20-May-21 12:20 AM

i'm a good jannie i swear

Azuth 20-May-21 12:20 AM

when

exists

Mumu from NYC 20-May-21 12:20 AM

Perrine 20-May-21 12:20 AM

Is this going to eat my post if I post lots of emotes at once?

Mumu from NYC 20-May-21 12:20 AM

a bot eats them

dunno if it's setup

🔇 20-May-21 12:20 AM

no

its not setup

🔇

if this does actually become maincord because of some shitpost ill have to remove mod/jannie from those that i added tho

Azuth 20-May-21 12:21 AM

if this becomes maincord I doubt I'll want to stay mod

🔇 20-May-21 12:21 AM

i dont think its required anymore

ill demote you to jannie if it happens azuth

Azuth 20-May-21 12:21 AM

Perrine 20-May-21 12:21 AM

🔇 20-May-21 12:22 AM

reminder that new server doesnt have all the emote slots btw

Perrine 20-May-21 12:22 AM

Stannic 20-May-21 12:22 AM

yeah

Perrine 20-May-21 12:22 AM

Mumu from NYC 20-May-21 12:22 AM

i fix

Perrine 20-May-21 12:23 AM

Mumu from NYC 20-May-21 12:23 AM

a lot of those are meh

Perrine 20-May-21 12:23 AM

that's all of them

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🔇 20-May-21 12:23 AM

i noticed we dont have the :brady: emotes anymore

Perrine 20-May-21 12:24 AM

You can copy image if you'd like to steal 'em

and link the animations

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/622528096138035221.gif?v=1

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/642606861727825950.gif?v=1

Mumu from NYC 20-May-21 12:24 AM

stickers are also coming soon

Perrine 20-May-21 12:24 AM

gay

🔇 20-May-21 12:24 AM

discord is becoming line....

Mumu from NYC 20-May-21 12:26 AM

i achievement hacked to get those letters

it was hard work

Mumu from NYC 20-May-21 12:36 AM

alright i've added what i deemed to be essential

19 pngs left, 48 animated

🔇 20-May-21 12:38 AM

Mumu from NYC 20-May-21 12:38 AM

i should have put these in a folder instead of straight to desktop

how awful

Perrine 20-May-21 12:38 AM

>no

Mumu from NYC 20-May-21 12:39 AM

i thought

was :dead

🔇 20-May-21 12:40 AM

nah,

Mumu from NYC 20-May-21 12:42 AM

i've always associated that emote with dead

🔇 20-May-21 12:42 AM

yeah, but its called sleep, i just associate it with extremely tired

Mumu from NYC 20-May-21 12:43 AM

aka DED

🔇 20-May-21 12:43 AM

yeah

Mumu from NYC 20-May-21 12:50 AM

i think it gave me a cooldown for adding so many so fast

Meeps 20-May-21 12:59 AM

Stannic 20-May-21 01:00 AM

meeps gib medical marijuana pls

Meeps 20-May-21 01:00 AM

Mumu from NYC 20-May-21 01:01 AM

#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3 20-May-21 02:18 AM

./a.out 20-May-21 08:35 PM

After much slapping of my computer, the bot's auto timeout feature is done

Mumu from NYC 20-May-21 08:35 PM

i was wondering what the hell you were testing

./a.out 20-May-21 08:36 PM

lmao yea

was gettin kinda hectic with the tests

Azuth 24-Jun-21 12:07 PM

@here start invite spamming

Stannic 24-Jun-21 12:07 PM

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Mumu from NYC 24-Jun-21 12:07 PM

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Perrine 24-Jun-21 12:14 PM

OPPASYLUM GANG

So many people want more emoji

Perrine

Perrine 24-Jun-21 12:19 PM

This is the start of the list of all the old emoji

Stannic 24-Jun-21 12:20 PM

who the fuck is dr cain

i'm not going to approve carltonus

Mumu from NYC 24-Jun-21 12:20 PM

cmon brotherrrrrrrr

Azuth 24-Jun-21 12:22 PM

was carl banned from the oldcord?

@/u/GemManBad @Distoibed only Asylum can make mods so enjoy jannie status for now

Stannic 24-Jun-21 12:23 PM

no carl left on his own accord

Distoibed 24-Jun-21 12:23 PM

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/737209172084391937/856263396512497664/1620096525092.gif

/u/GemManBad 24-Jun-21 12:23 PM

https://tenor.com/view/happy-dancing-celebrate-excited-gif-13870839

Distoibed 24-Jun-21 12:24 PM

was about to think with all the jannies/mods here

Stannic 24-Jun-21 12:24 PM

but he kills the mood everywhere he goes from what i experience and there's bias here so i won't do anything about him

Azuth 24-Jun-21 12:24 PM

yeah we had this server in sleeper mode after the big N-word warning

Distoibed 24-Jun-21 12:24 PM

that my work won't e needed anymore

Azuth 24-Jun-21 12:24 PM

but Asylum seems AFK so I'm scrambling to get everything sorted

Mumu from NYC 24-Jun-21 12:26 PM

u rn

Stannic 24-Jun-21 12:26 PM

whos ubop

Mumu from NYC 24-Jun-21 12:26 PM

coomerman

#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3 24-Jun-21 12:32 PM

wait why didn't we leave carl in welcome it was funny

./a.out 24-Jun-21 12:38 PM

Im currently not home, but once i get home and get some sleep, im gonna fire up the bot and tweak it to help with auto vetting known people n such

Stannic 24-Jun-21 12:38 PM

yey

Azuth 24-Jun-21 12:38 PM

jawesome

Mumu from NYC 24-Jun-21 12:41 PM

https://tenor.com/view/%EA%B0%91%EC%98%A4%EC%A7%95%EC%96%B4%ED%9A%8C-%EA%B0%80%EB%A6%AC%EB%B9%84-%EC%96%91%ED%8C%8C-%EB%96%B5%EA%B0%9C%EB%96%B5-%EB%A8%B9%EB%B0%A9-gif-17166219

Perrine 24-Jun-21 12:44 PM

If you're in this channel

YOU DO IT FOR FREE

#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3 24-Jun-21 12:44 PM

monthly hot pocket isn't free

Distoibed 24-Jun-21 12:45 PM

users can see this

Mumu from NYC 24-Jun-21 12:45 PM

kpop stans rise up

Distoibed 24-Jun-21 12:51 PM

@Azuth can you limit the splintercord chat?

Azuth 24-Jun-21 12:52 PM

done

#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3 24-Jun-21 01:03 PM

since cant post in actions removed image perms for yawnsu for a few hours for porn in general and music

Mumu from NYC 24-Jun-21 01:04 PM

free my mans

Distoibed 24-Jun-21 01:08 PM

@Azuth if you want, you can ban luna in welcome

unless we're doing a clean slate thing

but luna isn't vrg

Azuth 24-Jun-21 01:08 PM

I'd defer to Asylum but he seems to be asleep

so for now I'll just go with if they were vetted before, they're vetted here, banned before, banned here

and let @🔇 sort out any new rules

#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3 24-Jun-21 01:09 PM

fuck forgot he was banned

Distoibed 24-Jun-21 01:12 PM

don't worry @Azuth the moment I get mod, I'll make that a perm ban

#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3 24-Jun-21 01:12 PM

he doesn't even have vr does he now that i think about it (edited)

Stannic 24-Jun-21 01:12 PM

nope

still no vr

Distoibed 24-Jun-21 01:13 PM

didn't you get his memo?

he claimed you can play VR without VR

#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3 24-Jun-21 01:13 PM

ye i remember now

Distoibed 24-Jun-21 01:13 PM

and the guy kept lying about how his life is

if I didn't ban him, meeps would

#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3 24-Jun-21 01:16 PM

does anyone have the current ban list (edited)

Stannic 24-Jun-21 01:17 PM

no

snakior 24-Jun-21 01:17 PM

demote me I lust not for power

Stannic 24-Jun-21 01:17 PM

@Azuth

snakior 24-Jun-21 01:18 PM

i am merely a civillian

🔇 24-Jun-21 01:31 PM

I guess I need to put mod chat back to private.

Mumu from NYC 24-Jun-21 01:32 PM

#janniechat rise up

Distoibed 24-Jun-21 01:55 PM

Seen up before long time ago

the TLDR I got on him was: Rando who joined somebody and liked the instance

Perrine 24-Jun-21 02:48 PM

Are you telling me

That this is now

A hidden asylum

🔇 24-Jun-21 02:49 PM

No? Mod chat is still public currently.

Perrine 24-Jun-21 02:49 PM

A public asylum

Distoibed 24-Jun-21 02:49 PM

Guess this will be another general (edited)

Perrine

A hidden asylum

Mumu from NYC 24-Jun-21 02:53 PM

Stannic 24-Jun-21 03:00 PM

haha mod circlejerk

xd

Distoibed 24-Jun-21 03:02 PM

Anyways for the new jannies: please don't shit up this chat, as much as this is a dumb ass cringecord with the occasional >Taking discord seriously the last discord managed to stay very much on topic and I'd hate to see this chat get turned into #general4 or nu event/announcement because some people can't help but post le funny maymays in here

Azuth 24-Jun-21 03:08 PM

I like the idea of this chat being public

keeps things accountable

Perrine 24-Jun-21 03:08 PM

^

#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3 24-Jun-21 03:09 PM

That and it prevents drama from happening from people thinking mods are shit talking people

Perrine 24-Jun-21 03:10 PM

Pretty much

Mod cabals are controversial

Mumu from NYC 24-Jun-21 03:12 PM

accountability pagman

Distoibed 24-Jun-21 03:14 PM

I mean...

#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3

That and it prevents drama from happening from people thinking mods are shit talking people

Distoibed 24-Jun-21 03:14 PM

I will talk shit about people who are troublesome

as much as I'm ok with this chat being open

I have a big feeling that most people in here won't be able to say stuff like: "[user] is being a massive cunt in #chat, should we do something about it"

because that sentence can already create drama

Brainy 24-Jun-21 03:16 PM

I feel like there are some things that need to be discussed privately / internally for that exact reason personally.

Distoibed 24-Jun-21 03:17 PM

some things should, but I'm entirely ok with admitting that some people in here piss me off and they can know it

Brainy 24-Jun-21 03:17 PM

Just my opinion / experience. But you guys should do things however you feel most comfortable.

Distoibed 24-Jun-21 03:17 PM

if people want transparency, they will get it

Brainy 24-Jun-21 03:17 PM

What I mean is that can create issues with people feeling they are being targeted or singled out.

Distoibed 24-Jun-21 03:18 PM

that will happen

🔇 24-Jun-21 03:18 PM

Yeah, it may or may not be hidden in the future. For now it’s open tho.

Brainy 24-Jun-21 03:18 PM

"X has a clear bias against me, just search my name in #mods with mentions by him and you'll see."

Same with actions against users. It's putting them on "blast" so to speak when it's not really necessary.

🔇 24-Jun-21 03:20 PM

^

Brainy 24-Jun-21 03:20 PM

It could cause them to act out more belligerently in response to an action because they want to defend themselves in front of the community.

🔇 24-Jun-21 03:21 PM

I think #actions will be for “channel removed” or something similar. #jannieactions are fine if people want to comb the logs.

#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3 24-Jun-21 03:21 PM

or for big things like bans

🔇 24-Jun-21 03:22 PM

Bans too yeah.

#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3 24-Jun-21 03:22 PM

I personally think a mod discord would be a good idea to keep track of bans if the server gets nuked

Brainy 24-Jun-21 03:22 PM

The big issue I see with #jannieactions being visible is if we remove content and it's quoting the content (essentially keeping TOSable content "up" and on display).

🔇 24-Jun-21 03:22 PM

I may disable that part of the bot.

I just enabled all the logging functions.

Brainy 24-Jun-21 03:23 PM

I think that's valuable information though, we definitely want to preserve it.

🔇 24-Jun-21 03:23 PM

The other option is to just also delete the log and post a note.

Distoibed 24-Jun-21 03:23 PM

I do think bans/timeouts/kicks ect should be noted with an @'d people will just accept the action and wait it out, and if they violently bite and scratch against it, it's them being unable to "take the timeout and sit patiently" IF somebody fucks up and there is a small uproar, we can always revert it if we did the oopsie.

Brainy 24-Jun-21 03:23 PM

We need historical context and also to know any bot is doing its job if filters are assigned to it.

Stannic 24-Jun-21 03:25 PM

lemme go judge dredd

but nah i'll just do what's needed

and delete ohmai's posts

Stannic

and delete ohmai's posts

#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3 24-Jun-21 03:26 PM

honestly probably for the best

Stannic 24-Jun-21 03:26 PM

i want black lily back for door greeter

Brainy 24-Jun-21 03:26 PM

The way I've done it on other servers is make a "Mod Spam" category with sub channels the bot posts to regarding user activity, moderator actions, and deleted content. The only thing I've ever removed from deleted content was CSAM.

#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3 24-Jun-21 03:26 PM

imo as long as people are not being completely malicious not a ton of action is needed as far as modding goes

people tend to mod themselves for the most part

Brainy 24-Jun-21 03:27 PM

That way deleted content preserves the historical context for future reports and cases. It helps a lot with ban evasion too (not that I see that being a problem here).

Distoibed 24-Jun-21 03:27 PM

people in this discord usually know whenever they are breaking the rules either they wing it or they remove their shit, all of us are adults and most of the time we act like it

Brainy 24-Jun-21 03:28 PM

I agree, it should be possible to just remove what is high severity TOSable after a certain period in as frictionless a way as possible and pay it no mind.

#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3 24-Jun-21 03:28 PM

someone posts anime tiddy in general delete and remove image perms for a few hours

Brainy 24-Jun-21 03:28 PM

Ideally we'd want to manually assign this to a bot to prune.

#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3 24-Jun-21 03:28 PM

image perms should be before timeout imo

Brainy 24-Jun-21 03:29 PM

That's what you guys did before?

Distoibed 24-Jun-21 03:29 PM

but the big thing you might need to realize is that modding this discord is very hands off from what I experienced last week I barely had to do anything because most people behave in this discord some people post gay shit in general, but that's honestly the worst you're gonna get

if people fight, time both of them out most people don't even fight to the extend that mods need to intervene

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you can leave for a month and actions will barely have changed unless we have a new schizo that joined vrg

Brainy 24-Jun-21 03:32 PM

I've never seen fighting as an issue on here. Even slurs half the time are in a grey area, no context, or harmless. It's just the targeted/violent hate speech that I've personally seen as a problem. I'm honestly surprised it didn't cause any issue before now.

#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3 24-Jun-21 03:32 PM

97 percent of people behave themselves 98 percent of the time

Brainy 24-Jun-21 03:33 PM

Also looking over their transparency report, part of me wonders if it was even someone reporting posts on the server, as opposed to the server being proactively detected somehow. They try to make it sound like they do that.

Which sounds insane given the amount of servers and discussion that most go on across the entire platform daily. I feel like a tinfoil hat just entertaining it. (edited)

Distoibed 24-Jun-21 03:33 PM

if somebody unironically posts CP in here, people will shit talk him into the shadow dimension, you could almost say that this community cleans itself up due to how we handle spergs and schizos

Brainy 24-Jun-21 03:34 PM

CSAM needs to be reported and deleted immediately.

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Distoibed 24-Jun-21 03:35 PM

that will obviously happen

Brainy 24-Jun-21 03:36 PM

The user too. They shouldn't even be around after that for people to shit talk. I'm referring to actual CSAM though, not artwork.

Distoibed 24-Jun-21 03:36 PM

idk if they "proactively" found our server since we've basically been breeding hate speech,misogyny,racism,bigotry in this discord since we made it

Brainy

The user too. They shouldn't even be around after that for people to shit talk. I'm referring to actual CSAM though, not artwork.

Distoibed 24-Jun-21 03:37 PM

they will be remembered in vrc and on the thread

Brainy 24-Jun-21 03:39 PM

Yeah I feel like it has to be a bluff. This is a company that can't even handle proxy reporting of grooming / CSAM reported by their own Partners. I feel like anything proactive would occur on server creation (IE blocking certain terms for a server name, or flagging a server if the name is changed). That seams like a more cost-effective way to do it proactively.

Distoibed 24-Jun-21 03:40 PM

but about moderation, you barely need to do anything since if somebody does something idiotic, the entire server will be there to laugh and mock them although this might be a "toxic" way of dealing, it has prevented a lot of people of blowing stuff up without genuine emotional distress

and even if they have such emotional distress, people will just laugh harder

something something, thick skin ect

🔇 24-Jun-21 03:42 PM

Yeah, that’s a figured one.

Stannic 24-Jun-21 03:42 PM

wat

🔇 24-Jun-21 03:42 PM

Alt owner got banned

Stannic 24-Jun-21 03:42 PM

ooooh

Mumu from NYC 24-Jun-21 03:44 PM

damn they did you dirty

"hey hold this briefcase" "what's inside?" "don't worry about it" blows up 2 minutes later

Black Lily 24-Jun-21 03:45 PM

@[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes remember to ban everyone I vouched for in the asset discord

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Distoibed 24-Jun-21 03:45 PM

@🔇 made an alt yet?

🔇 24-Jun-21 03:46 PM

I have one, I’ll migrate it after I finish work and am off mobile.

Black Lily

@[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes remember to ban everyone I vouched for in the asset discord

Stannic 24-Jun-21 03:47 PM

why is that

Distoibed 24-Jun-21 03:48 PM

dank setup a rule that said "if you get banned, your entire chain gets banned" or something like that @Stannic

Stannic 24-Jun-21 03:48 PM

oh

🔇 24-Jun-21 03:49 PM

Good thing I am my own chain. (:

Stannic 24-Jun-21 03:49 PM

i never got invited to the assetcord so i dunno

prolly a good thing for dankmemes (edited)

🔇 24-Jun-21 03:49 PM

I should invite like 30 Alts and vet them all one day. (; (edited)

Perrine 24-Jun-21 04:37 PM

As far as i know discord doesn't really scan servers. I've been in several with poltards and nothing happens to the server, just the tards

So shit probably gets reported

Brainy 24-Jun-21 04:39 PM

Did the server have violent hate speech?

Or just one-off slurs?

🔇 24-Jun-21 04:40 PM

Yes

Black Lily 24-Jun-21 04:41 PM

It looks like they specifically reported my alt account

Which had no posts

Stannic 24-Jun-21 04:43 PM

wat

🔇

Brainy 24-Jun-21 04:52 PM

Oh I meant the pol board Perrine mentioned.

Black Lily

Which had no posts

Brainy 24-Jun-21 04:53 PM

Were you the server owner? Because it could be they banned you for operating the server itself.

Distoibed 24-Jun-21 04:53 PM

they banned his acc yeah

his alt

Brainy 24-Jun-21 04:55 PM

Yeah it doesn't mean the account itself was reported. Most likely the account ban was connected to the server ban just by virtue of being the owner.

They have generic pre-written macros for when they take an action. (edited)

So if you never posted anything like that on the server, then they held you accountable for being the owner and allowing others to post that on the server. (edited)

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

Distoibed 24-Jun-21 05:08 PM

dehumanizing...

that's a new

Brainy 24-Jun-21 05:11 PM

The way the platform treats it is that you're responsible for the communities you operate. (edited)

If your platform is prolific with what they deem to be hate speech and they do not see you as doing enough proactively to discourage or prevent it, they're going to take action against you shortly after taking action against the server, as you're to "blame" for it.

June 24-Jun-21 07:32 PM

@🔇 I need a output channel created for the bot, I dont have perms for it though

🔇 24-Jun-21 07:32 PM

#jannieactions ?

June 24-Jun-21 07:33 PM

wilco, I'll rework the bot and get it up tonight or tomorrow morning

🔇 24-Jun-21 07:33 PM

okay

June 24-Jun-21 07:33 PM

I want to adjust how it outputs data, had a few bugs I didnt want to fix because that server was doomed

🔇 24-Jun-21 07:33 PM

sounds good

June 24-Jun-21 07:34 PM

I'll run sweeps on all channels after

🔇 24-Jun-21 07:34 PM

June 24-Jun-21 07:34 PM

Futanari 24-Jun-21 09:24 PM

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/849503657779003422/853112644877680640/1623468300657361351530783529441.jpg

A toast for the nuke

Azuth 24-Jun-21 09:29 PM

why are you a jannie

8

Futanari 24-Jun-21 09:30 PM

That question is classified

🔇 24-Jun-21 09:30 PM

because jannies have close to no power anyways.

bred elf 24-Jun-21 09:48 PM

Uhh hello

I'm baking bread

Y'all need anything

🔇 24-Jun-21 09:49 PM

no, not really. wait for the shitstorm to settle, other than that post the discord on the bread

or share it to people

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Brainy 24-Jun-21 09:49 PM

Any way we can get a system for flagging posts in a channel, possibly by post ID, which the bot can then take action against? Ideally we would want to also be able to specify a time for removal. @June

Without this the bot is not doing anything different than before to prevent the server from getting banned. We need a way to proactively flag complex content for removal. (edited)

June 24-Jun-21 10:03 PM

already does that

all of that

/u/GemManBad 24-Jun-21 10:28 PM

We took massive precautions

Every server has a death date, just got to be prepared

bred elf 24-Jun-21 10:32 PM

Just gonna take the monent to say I'm retiring though New blood can be in charge My home is the inner ring

Back to bread

It's just all too tiresome

🔇 24-Jun-21 10:33 PM

okay, see ya later spheri

Mumu from NYC 25-Jun-21 12:51 AM

okay what emotes are missing

i'll check if i have them

🔇 25-Jun-21 12:51 AM

:korbothink:

Mumu from NYC 25-Jun-21 12:52 AM

uno momento windows explorer wheel go spin

🔇 25-Jun-21 12:52 AM

okay

how was your day?

Mumu from NYC 25-Jun-21 01:04 AM

it does not appear that i actually have that

what did it look like

🔇 25-Jun-21 01:05 AM

thinking catgirl

Mumu from NYC 25-Jun-21 01:06 AM

oh, these still work if you right click and open

https://discord.com/channels/844705209615908914/844705211012218880/844792427351900200

though, i don't see it there 'less i am blind

Brainy 25-Jun-21 01:18 AM

@Perrine You're a hero thank you for backing all of them up!

Perrine 25-Jun-21 01:20 AM

\o/

/u/GemManBad 25-Jun-21 02:07 AM

new thematic server icon

Mumu from NYC 25-Jun-21 02:10 AM

I thought this was a beach https://i.imgur.com/cZEf28X.png

/u/GemManBad 25-Jun-21 02:13 AM

was (edited)

was a beach (edited)

🔇 25-Jun-21 02:46 AM

i think im being rate limited on submitting emojis lol

i cant send any more

Mumu from NYC 25-Jun-21 02:47 AM

yeah that happens

post em

..it's server sided

thank you discord dev team

🔇 25-Jun-21 02:49 AM

okay, ill continue in like an hour then

🔇 25-Jun-21 03:56 AM

rate limited again, ill continue tomorrow, the limit is like 50

Mumu from NYC 25-Jun-21 04:00 AM

you madlad you actually named it powergrab

oh :whey: is missing

🔇 25-Jun-21 04:00 AM

yeah, rate limit

i was going alphabetical

Mumu from NYC 25-Jun-21 04:00 AM

discord

🔇 25-Jun-21 04:01 AM

if you wanna spend the next 3 hours uploading the rest go for it

Emotes.7z

2.59 MB

i got almost all the gifs uploaded, mimerun wouldnt go because its too big i guess?

Mumu from NYC 25-Jun-21 04:19 AM

which did you stop at

🔇 25-Jun-21 04:19 AM

The ones in there

I removed all the ones I uploaded.

BBC (Big Bunny Cock) 25-Jun-21 04:21 AM

is it normal that everyone can see the mods channel?

🔇 25-Jun-21 04:21 AM

For now, yes.

I’ll restore you as a mod when I’m at my pc tomorrow. Until then you’re a jannie.

BBC (Big Bunny Cock)

is it normal that everyone can see the mods channel?

Distoibed 25-Jun-21 04:27 AM

people in and outside of here wanted transparency

I'd prefer to keep it closed so we can talk about troublesome individuals without them being able to see

Distoibed

people in and outside of here wanted transparency

BBC (Big Bunny Cock) 25-Jun-21 04:28 AM

I mean for now it's good but it's like a channel were we plan/vote on stuff

Distoibed 25-Jun-21 04:28 AM

ah..

we gotta create that

BBC (Big Bunny Cock) 25-Jun-21 04:29 AM

if you create that whats the point of the mod channel then?

Distoibed 25-Jun-21 04:30 AM

to talk?

🔇 25-Jun-21 04:37 AM

It’ll close eventually, just needed it open previously to get things together.

/u/GemManBad 25-Jun-21 06:17 PM

@mod suggesting we make @Krial and @#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3 mod, opinions?

Azuth 25-Jun-21 06:17 PM

I think Krial would be a good choice

Distoibed 25-Jun-21 06:17 PM

Krial being An ex actual jannie

Azuth 25-Jun-21 06:18 PM

neutral on ohmai, haven't talked to him enough

Distoibed 25-Jun-21 06:18 PM

Idk if hé wants to return

Also im MIA for tonight

/u/GemManBad

@mod suggesting we make @Krial and @#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3 mod, opinions?

#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3 25-Jun-21 06:20 PM

im fine with either mod or jannie tbh, very little mod stuff actually needs done 98 percent of the time. my biggest thing i can do is since i work from home im usually lurking discord during the day

/u/GemManBad

@mod suggesting we make @Krial and @#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3 mod, opinions?

Dal290 25-Jun-21 06:21 PM

Makes sense to me, krial is fit for it and I wanted him to be one to begin with huehue

June 25-Jun-21 06:21 PM

I suggest NEITHER

Dal290 25-Jun-21 06:22 PM

NO MODS

June 25-Jun-21 06:22 PM

god damn popularity contest fucks

Dal290 25-Jun-21 06:22 PM

NO MASTER

June 25-Jun-21 06:22 PM

hurrr durr my friends should be mods

/u/GemManBad 25-Jun-21 06:22 PM

Mod june?

June 25-Jun-21 06:22 PM

fuck off

/u/GemManBad 25-Jun-21 06:22 PM

Lmao

Dal290 25-Jun-21 06:22 PM

@June you want mod

June 25-Jun-21 06:22 PM

I will fucking cut you and ban everyone if you do

but jokes aside those are good picks

ask them first

before suggesting next time though

/u/GemManBad 25-Jun-21 06:24 PM

Krial wouldn't complain, and everyone trusts him. I also spooken to oh mai about it before hand

Just wanted opinions, what this channel is for

June 25-Jun-21 06:24 PM

yah kinda a line of power grab though on that one

bullshitting about that way back during the start of the 'elections'

Dal290

Makes sense to me, krial is fit for it and I wanted him to be one to begin with huehue

Distoibed 25-Jun-21 06:39 PM

If krial wants he should

But idk if hé wants

Futanari 25-Jun-21 06:44 PM

The election was a joke and a bad idea honestly

#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3 25-Jun-21 06:47 PM

i used it as an opportunity to shitpost so it was fun imo\

/u/GemManBad 25-Jun-21 07:33 PM

Most of us made the most out of the situation

Black Lily 25-Jun-21 07:42 PM

I just wanna play video games

Krial is a fine choice

🔇 25-Jun-21 07:45 PM

I closed mod chat.

Voting is still open tho.

@Krial is jannie for now.

Krial 25-Jun-21 07:48 PM

Can do.

Azuth 25-Jun-21 09:07 PM

oh boy time to start the trash talk

Black Lily 25-Jun-21 09:07 PM

Distoibed 25-Jun-21 09:41 PM

I'll trash any1 of you

June 25-Jun-21 09:50 PM

I heard something about gay sex in #mods

Futanari 25-Jun-21 10:00 PM

Uh no

No gay in here

Krial 25-Jun-21 10:01 PM

Back to vetting most entries?

🔇 25-Jun-21 10:45 PM

Yes

Black Lily 25-Jun-21 11:29 PM

Should we change the entry requirements now or just stick with the same old shit

Mumu from NYC 25-Jun-21 11:29 PM

I mean it wouldn't necessarily be bad to mix things up a bit

question is, to what

Black Lily 25-Jun-21 11:30 PM

No more /trash/

Mumu from NYC 25-Jun-21 11:30 PM

I can agree with that yeah

they have their own discord already

Black Lily 25-Jun-21 11:31 PM

Or if they only list /pol/ and or /b/

Azuth 25-Jun-21 11:33 PM

I'm new here so my opinion only counts for so much, but I like the way the 4chan cup discords vet

Mumu from NYC 25-Jun-21 11:34 PM

maybe it's silly/stupid to ask but you could also throw in a what was the last vr game you played/when was the last time you played something vr

Azuth 25-Jun-21 11:34 PM

it's not enough to say you're from a thread/board, they also ask for your favorite meme/post from it

Azuth

it's not enough to say you're from a thread/board, they also ask for your favorite meme/post from it

Futanari 25-Jun-21 11:34 PM

Sounds like a good idea

I also wanna know if we should just kill #nsfw-chat, im not against it i just dont feel like it should ever be a thing

Mumu from NYC 25-Jun-21 11:37 PM

I know you are like anti public coomer etc and I have nothing against that which is partly why I even made the other server to hopefully help cut down on that sort of thing, most people only use that chat because it's basically just #general but you can do almost whatever without consequences (edited)

Futanari 25-Jun-21 11:39 PM

That is true yes

Black Lily 25-Jun-21 11:42 PM

Kinda funny

Mumu from NYC 25-Jun-21 11:42 PM

dang

lmfao no edits allowed

is gone now gottem

June 25-Jun-21 11:47 PM

worked on lavender, tomorrow I'll bring up the bot edits and make it live. it was a long work day @🔇

after it comes up with the fixes I'll take requests for new features

🔇 25-Jun-21 11:51 PM

Okay, I have a list of enhancements I want to happen, @Brainy helped me with them, and is generally more knowledgeable about discord’s safety. When you are ready we can talk via dm, because I don’t want people to know any of the rules to prevent retards from purposefully getting around them.

Mumu from NYC 25-Jun-21 11:53 PM

1000%

June 25-Jun-21 11:54 PM

uggh alright

he hit me with a list already in dms

refine them, remove the manual ones

you want automatic not manual full stop

🔇 25-Jun-21 11:57 PM

Yeah I’ll dm you the specifics.

I’m out drinking with fam playing golf rn so it’ll be in a bit.

June 25-Jun-21 11:58 PM

aite

Mumu from NYC 25-Jun-21 11:58 PM

golf golf?

or putt or driving range

🔇 26-Jun-21 12:17 AM

Golf golf. All 18

Mumu from NYC 26-Jun-21 12:18 AM

Futanari 26-Jun-21 12:18 AM

Nice

Futanari 26-Jun-21 01:58 AM

🔇 26-Jun-21 02:07 AM

got home, uploaded some of the missing emojis

23 left, but rate limited rn

Futanari 26-Jun-21 03:03 AM

Theres dupes

🔇 26-Jun-21 03:09 AM

clean them for me? im retarded

Futanari 26-Jun-21 03:10 AM

Im on phone lmao

🔇 26-Jun-21 03:10 AM

dont worry about it then

Futanari 26-Jun-21 03:11 AM

Got it

Black Lily 26-Jun-21 03:52 AM

:yeszipzoop:

Brainy 26-Jun-21 04:05 AM

@🔇@June I'm around, let me know if you need my input on anything!

Black Lily

:yeszipzoop:

🔇 26-Jun-21 04:06 AM

working on it lol

Brainy

@🔇@June I'm around, let me know if you need my input on anything!

🔇 26-Jun-21 04:07 AM

need to do the initial first, ill let you know after we progress

1

Brainy 26-Jun-21 04:09 AM

Also I understand if you want to keep some rules / processes internal, but I'd strongly advise having some rough outline for moderators here on policy just so we're not under moderating or over moderating certain types of expression.

🔇 26-Jun-21 04:10 AM

a lot of stuff will be done behind the scenes we will have the internal rules set when we explain how the bot enhancements are done

Pineapples 26-Jun-21 04:12 AM

Dal290 26-Jun-21 04:17 AM

Rules are a solid yikes from me dog

🔇 26-Jun-21 04:19 AM

rules for cleanup, not rules to tell people no

Dal290 26-Jun-21 04:20 AM

Cleanup?

🔇 26-Jun-21 04:20 AM

ye, it'll prevent dumb shit in the future

Dal290 26-Jun-21 04:21 AM

Idk about that one, any whiff of that will spook people

🔇 26-Jun-21 04:22 AM

they wont know unless someone is dumb af

Dal290 26-Jun-21 04:22 AM

We got by for like, two years on a "don't act dumb" policy for obvious bullshit like animal abuse or gore

🔇 26-Jun-21 04:22 AM

part of the bot

Dal290 26-Jun-21 04:22 AM

Oh for the clean up bot

🔇 26-Jun-21 04:22 AM

ye

Dal290 26-Jun-21 04:22 AM

Fucking duh got damn

I need to stop checking this while tipsy lmoa

🔇 26-Jun-21 04:23 AM

the most mods will have to do is flag stuff thats "fine" but bad from discords point

Dal290 26-Jun-21 04:24 AM

Can't that be automatic?

🔇 26-Jun-21 04:25 AM

kinda, but its more for vague things anyways

Dal290 26-Jun-21 04:26 AM

Oh and weird time to bring this up but I want to ask fogwick to mod

He did it before and things worked out

🔇 26-Jun-21 04:27 AM

he was mod, its up to him to return or not

he asked to not be mod anymore previously

Dal290 26-Jun-21 04:27 AM

Yee just wanted to say, I'll approach him about it

🔇 26-Jun-21 04:27 AM

okay, or just assign him jannie and we can ask how he feels

Dal290 26-Jun-21 04:28 AM

He was annoyed with stuff he was doing being undone lol

Yee yee I just want to scope around a bit and see if some are down while checking in here, we need a lil bit of stability

🔇 26-Jun-21 04:29 AM

yeah. btw any mod is free to assign jannies

Pineapples 26-Jun-21 04:30 AM

Cool, thanks.

Mumu from NYC 26-Jun-21 04:30 AM

lmfao

the price of alt being ceo..

🔇 26-Jun-21 04:34 AM

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Mumu from NYC 26-Jun-21 04:35 AM

tools of the trade

Black Lily

:yeszipzoop:

🔇 26-Jun-21 05:31 AM

Futanari 26-Jun-21 05:38 AM

why tho?

🔇 26-Jun-21 05:44 AM

Why what?

Futanari

why tho?

Black Lily 26-Jun-21 06:00 AM

Nostalgia and I like ZipZoop

🔇 26-Jun-21 06:01 AM

I like the coffee pot.

I don’t have the :huhzipzoop: saved anywhere.

Brainy 26-Jun-21 06:12 AM

This was the ban reason for the server owner, but do we know the actual ban reason issued for the server itself?

Did they use the same macro for that too?

Just trying to confirm the server was banned for hate speech / violent hate speech and not ban evasion.

Black Lily 26-Jun-21 06:16 AM

That is the ban reason for the server

Server was only deleted because the owner was banned

Brainy 26-Jun-21 06:19 AM

So the server wasn't found to be in violation?

But you mentioned you never posted anything with the account, correct?

If that's the case then it was them holding you accountable for what was being said on the server as the server owner and we can take this as being the ban reason for the server too.

Mumu from NYC 26-Jun-21 06:20 AM

basically

Brainy 26-Jun-21 06:21 AM

Okay thanks for confirming. I just wanted to be absolutely sure it wasn't ban evasion.

Mumu from NYC 26-Jun-21 06:21 AM

"you didn't keep your server(s) in check now face the consequences"

Brainy 26-Jun-21 06:21 AM

Which is good for us because it means we have a fresh start on the server and don't have to worry about the server being deleted for ban evasion.

I deleted some posts just now (what would constitute clear violent hate speech / call to violence) and I can't see where it's displaying them in logs? (edited)

Black Lily 26-Jun-21 06:26 AM

Brainy 26-Jun-21 06:26 AM

Where is that? I can't find it?

🔇 26-Jun-21 06:27 AM

Not all of it gets posted to #jannieactions

Mumu from NYC 26-Jun-21 06:27 AM

dropdown -> server settings -> audit log

Brainy 26-Jun-21 06:27 AM

Oh it's in the actual Discord Audit Log?

🔇 26-Jun-21 06:27 AM

Yes

Brainy 26-Jun-21 06:27 AM

Any way we can get a channel with a bot record of that so it's searchable and does not expire?

Also I can't see the original contents of the message in that Audit Log.

Mumu from NYC 26-Jun-21 06:28 AM

https://i.imgur.com/Qp6e706.png

(edited)

Brainy 26-Jun-21 06:28 AM

Honestly I wish we could just tell people to chill out and keep a lot of the really edgy stuff on 4Chan.

Not even talking about the slurs.

🔇 26-Jun-21 06:29 AM

The bot will clean it when it’s up.

Brainy 26-Jun-21 06:29 AM

Just the stuff that Discord might see as violent hate speech.

I'd be able to delete a lot of that now. But I dislike deleting things without having a mod record of the contents.

Ideally we'd want a channel where the bot posts what is deleted including message contents.

Yeah, we don't want to tell them.

Nor warn them.

Just remove and forget about it.

But I wish we could just tell them and have them behave reasonably.

Mumu from NYC 26-Jun-21 06:30 AM

is the bot able to kick/ban

Brainy 26-Jun-21 06:30 AM

Ideally we would want the bot to be issuing anything like that so Jannies won't face recrimination.

Mumu from NYC 26-Jun-21 06:32 AM

e.g going off what you said with the dedicated channel for deleted posts + kick/ban reason if it comes down to it

🔇 26-Jun-21 06:32 AM

The bot could, but that won’t be its primary objective.

Also having logs stored on the server is bad.

The bot stores what it deletes in a database.

Mumu from NYC 26-Jun-21 06:33 AM

🔇 26-Jun-21 06:33 AM

Keeps a record of it, but not on the discord.

Brainy 26-Jun-21 06:33 AM

I'd have to confirm it, but they have stated in that past that a non-public mod channel storing message history is acceptable because they understand we need historical context. The exception to this of course is CSAM and direct links to malware.

🔇 26-Jun-21 06:34 AM

Brainy 26-Jun-21 06:34 AM

This also provides demonstrable proof / evidence that we are proactively moderating on the server in a good faith effort to comply with Discord TOS.

Mumu from NYC 26-Jun-21 06:34 AM

i initially wanted to bring up a warning system for the bot that'll dm your offenses etc but now looking at it again i agree that'd just cause more problems just because people will go "hehe i said the thing i'm gonna do it again"

🔇 26-Jun-21 06:34 AM

The problem would be more of the 20k instances of the gamer word, and is not banning those repeat offenders.

Us not banning*

Brainy 26-Jun-21 06:35 AM

Yeah, warnings may work for other servers, but I just see it creating a complete shit storm here.

🔇 26-Jun-21 06:35 AM

Warnings wouldn’t work for here.

Black Lily 26-Jun-21 06:35 AM

I don't think we need to worry too much

🔇 26-Jun-21 06:35 AM

People would purposely shit on it.

But yeah it’s not really much to worry about.

Black Lily 26-Jun-21 06:35 AM

If the discord dies we just make another one

🔇 26-Jun-21 06:36 AM

Eventually discord will nuke the server again, and we just want to postpone that as long as we can

Black Lily 26-Jun-21 06:36 AM

It doesn't matter that much

🔇 26-Jun-21 06:36 AM

There’s no getting around that.

Black Lily 26-Jun-21 06:36 AM

The discord only died because of some angry thread retards that hate the discord more than anything

Mumu from NYC 26-Jun-21 06:37 AM

well asylum is big boss now so he'll actually make an effort to make backups of things so basically nothing will be lost

Brainy 26-Jun-21 06:37 AM

If you do decide to go with some kind of warning system, even for just the really bad staff, I'd strongly suggest those warnings being issued by a bot. Also, I'd strongly suggest we do the same for #actions because otherwise you're opening Jannies up to recrimination. Another thing I've noticed is that any message I edit in #mods is being displayed in #jannieactions and this should not be happening.

Essentially nothing we are discussing in this channel right now is private.

🔇 26-Jun-21 06:37 AM

Yeah I’ll change that tomorrow, just don’t edit stuff for now.

🔇

Eventually discord will nuke the server again, and we just want to postpone that as long as we can

Brainy 26-Jun-21 06:38 AM

I feel we can do a lot to skirt the line and prevent deletion, if not get them to "warn" us first about content to remove (which they are known to do). (edited)

🔇 26-Jun-21 06:38 AM

We can, but having the entire community agree to not shit on the floor is harder than one would think.

Brainy 26-Jun-21 06:40 AM

That doesn't happen in any community. We just have to clean up after it.

🔇 26-Jun-21 06:40 AM

Also they did warn us, like three months prior to the deletion.

Brainy 26-Jun-21 06:40 AM

Oh wait they did?

🔇 26-Jun-21 06:40 AM

Yeah.

Brainy 26-Jun-21 06:40 AM

May I see those please?

🔇 26-Jun-21 06:40 AM

We tried, and it wasn’t enough.

Brainy 26-Jun-21 06:40 AM

It would give me some good insight as to their action policy.

🔇 26-Jun-21 06:40 AM

I don’t have them, it was in the other server.

Mumu from NYC 26-Jun-21 06:41 AM

while i agree yes server deletion is bound to happen, it shouldn't even be an issue to begin with. haha funee meme but all it takes is one or a few schizos to have an off day you're in this constant battle of 5D chess treading through a field of landmines and quicksand

Brainy 26-Jun-21 06:41 AM

Let me guess, they just said you had bad stuff to remove, but didn't actually identify the stuff to remove?

🔇 26-Jun-21 06:41 AM

Ye

Mumu from NYC 26-Jun-21 06:41 AM

it's just a dogshit

🔇 26-Jun-21 06:41 AM

They said we should actively moderate the discord and left it at that basically.

Brainy 26-Jun-21 06:41 AM

Then this goes back to what I was saying before. The original method of the bot deleting slurs was insufficient because there was still violent hate speech being left up.

But good to know we at least get a heads up.

🔇 26-Jun-21 06:42 AM

I mean yeah, but the bot can’t clean everything.

Brainy 26-Jun-21 06:43 AM

Here's what I'm (fairly confident) happens. They get the report in their triage queue, they investigate to confirm the post is up. They may look at all reports in triage related to the server from X date. They issue the warning, they wait to see if the post(s) are removed. If they're not, they strike. If they are, they resolve.

🔇 26-Jun-21 06:43 AM

Like I said in dms if we want to actually prevent deletion, we can forego any actual moderation and just delete anything a week old.

Can’t hold anything against us if there’s nothing to see.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Brainy 26-Jun-21 06:44 AM

I see that being more controversial because we'll be removing more harmless content / expression than what Discord deems harmful. (edited)

Goddammit I keep forgetting not to edit my post.

Mumu from NYC 26-Jun-21 06:45 AM

i don't think asylum meant everything unless..?

Brainy 26-Jun-21 06:45 AM

I'm scared to delete it in here too lol

🔇 26-Jun-21 06:45 AM

I keep going and deleting those in #jannieactions anyways.

Brainy 26-Jun-21 06:45 AM

Oh if they mean that then yeah, I'm in 100% agreement with that, using a flagging system./

Mumu from NYC

i don't think asylum meant everything unless..?

🔇 26-Jun-21 06:45 AM

No I meant everything.

Mumu from NYC 26-Jun-21 06:46 AM

i c

Brainy 26-Jun-21 06:46 AM

Yeah, I see deleting everything as being very controversial.

🔇 26-Jun-21 06:46 AM

But that’s worst case, fuck everything situation.

Mumu from NYC 26-Jun-21 06:46 AM

defcon 1

Brainy 26-Jun-21 06:46 AM

Especially since people want to look back at posts in #blender-unity #shopping-inspo #workshop

🔇 26-Jun-21 06:46 AM

Flagging system is going to happen.

🔇

Flagging system is going to happen.

Brainy 26-Jun-21 06:47 AM

Very happy about this!!

🔇 26-Jun-21 06:47 AM

Jannies/mods will post a link to a message in a channel and the bot will go clean it later.

Brainy 26-Jun-21 06:47 AM

Yeah I think we can do a lot just on that alone to stave off deletion.

Then the only suggestion I have beyond that would be separate channels where we can keep historical records of posts that is searchable.

This would need to be non-public (mods only).

🔇 26-Jun-21 06:49 AM

I’ll consider that, but I don’t think having a log of 20k gamer words is good.

Having an external log would be fine

Since discord will give problems with the racism.

Brainy 26-Jun-21 06:50 AM

Along with a bot, rather than individual Jannies, giving notice of bans (if you feel that is necessary) in #actions . However, I feel this just acts like an announcement and call to action for controversy. I personally would have this be a mods only channel.

🔇 26-Jun-21 06:50 AM

Even if we say “we cleaned it up” they will ask why we didn’t ban the guy that says the gamer word several times a day.

Brainy 26-Jun-21 06:51 AM

I can see your concern there. If it really has you worried then external log should be fine.

What about #actions ? Any way we can keep that mods only?

Mumu from NYC 26-Jun-21 06:52 AM

one thing i did want to bring up was, yes new server new "rules" but if people with problematic pasts (in terms of the server not their life lol) should be kept short leashed or at the very least a close eye kept if not already and if any issues should arise; nipped in the bud. i am not trying to call out any individual or groups of people.

🔇 26-Jun-21 06:52 AM

I would rather you call out individuals.

Brainy 26-Jun-21 06:52 AM

@Mumu from NYC Yeah my concern is over time we'll be "calling out" people in a searchable way that is public in #actions

🔇 26-Jun-21 06:53 AM

Also, idk what you mean by make actions private?

Brainy 26-Jun-21 06:53 AM

Which could drive user resentment, defensiveness towards certain moderator actions, and cause "cliques" to form that are divisive.

🔇 26-Jun-21 06:53 AM

We just post things mods are doing that may impact the rest of the idiots here.

Brainy 26-Jun-21 06:53 AM

As in, make it a channel only we (moderators) can see so we know that a timeout, ban, whatever was issued to X over Y behavior. (edited)

🔇 26-Jun-21 06:53 AM

I may private jannieactions tho.

Brainy 26-Jun-21 06:55 AM

Right now the way #actions is looking is that it's essentially "calling out" users we take action against in a way that could be perceived as shaming and incite a defensive response we may not have gotten otherwise if it had just been kept private.

IE, user who may not have objected to the action, may object to it just because they feel "called out" in that channel.

Then cliques of allies form around that person and resentment begins to form.

🔇 26-Jun-21 06:55 AM

I don’t think people had a problem with it anyways.

More often than not people wanted their name in it, but that’s all

Brainy 26-Jun-21 06:56 AM

Even worse if Jannies are the ones posting in there, because then they will get labeled for having bias against X person, which is a pretty easy argument to make when the channel history is searchable.

🔇 26-Jun-21 06:56 AM

When people do that, we kinda just tell them eat shit.

Mumu from NYC 26-Jun-21 06:57 AM

the age old trolley problem

🔇 26-Jun-21 06:57 AM

It’s happened several times.

Not a problem.

Black Lily 26-Jun-21 06:57 AM

Moub...

🔇 26-Jun-21 06:57 AM

If a jannie/mod can’t handle it, then they shouldn’t be one.

Simple.

Mumu from NYC 26-Jun-21 06:57 AM

hate everyone equally :^)

🔇 26-Jun-21 06:57 AM

Moub, Tiger, Luna…

Mumu from NYC 26-Jun-21 06:58 AM

please please please invite luna the blue pony

🔇 26-Jun-21 06:58 AM

They were banned day one.

Mumu from NYC 26-Jun-21 06:58 AM

LMAO

Brainy 26-Jun-21 06:58 AM

Yeah I just bring it up because it's essentially putting out enforcement (and enforcement) out there for criticism when they don't need to be. Also it would be less controversial for us to make it private now than if we do it later if/when it does become a problem.

Our enforcement and enforcers.* Can't edit.

Mumu from NYC 26-Jun-21 06:59 AM

transparency is needed

🔇 26-Jun-21 06:59 AM

Won’t become a problem, never has. Those that brigade for release of someone is always shitposting, or it’s Neko/zan

Mumu from NYC 26-Jun-21 06:59 AM

to an extent ofc

Pineapples 26-Jun-21 06:59 AM

Yeah, we've always tried to be open with everyone about what we do and why.

It's why we have the audit log visible to everyone, so mods can't sneakily do shit without anyone knowing what happened or who did it.

Black Lily 26-Jun-21 07:00 AM

And nobody respects neko or zan (edited)

1

🔇 26-Jun-21 07:00 AM

I wanted to keep mod chat open as well, but it’s better to have secret talk anyways.

Brainy 26-Jun-21 07:00 AM

Then the only concern would be user resentment and rallying around a user being targeted.

🔇 26-Jun-21 07:00 AM

No one here has enough concentration for that.

Mumu from NYC 26-Jun-21 07:01 AM

that's already happened in the past to some extent

🔇 26-Jun-21 07:01 AM

And if they do, they know the person being bullied deserves it.

Mumu from NYC 26-Jun-21 07:01 AM

pineapples would get the brunt of it mostly iirc

🔇 26-Jun-21 07:01 AM

I mean pineapples/moub is the largest example.

Black Lily 26-Jun-21 07:01 AM

I probably wouldn't use the channel if it was open

Pineapples 26-Jun-21 07:01 AM

People will claim someone's being targeted occasionally, but they're just looking for an excuse to bitch. So we tell them to fuck off or simply don't respond to them.

Mumu from NYC 26-Jun-21 07:02 AM

victim complex

Black Lily 26-Jun-21 07:02 AM

If only then knew what targeting looked like

Black Lily

I probably wouldn't use the channel if it was open

Pineapples 26-Jun-21 07:02 AM

Yeah, we'd probably end up DMing each other about things, meaning it's less of a discussion since no one will know everything being talked about.

Black Lily

If only then knew what targeting looked like

Mumu from NYC 26-Jun-21 07:02 AM

90% of nsfwchat would've been timed out

Brainy 26-Jun-21 07:02 AM

I'd still strongly suggest that what gets posted there gets posted by a bot.

🔇 26-Jun-21 07:03 AM

Nah, it’s fine rainy, don’t think about it too much.

Brainy 26-Jun-21 07:03 AM

Maybe we could have a mod only channel where we post the statement and the bit mirrors it in that channel.

Black Lily 26-Jun-21 07:03 AM

There was never anything stopping us from just banning people we didn't like for zero reason

Mumu from NYC 26-Jun-21 07:03 AM

albeit most of the bans were honestly funny as hell

Brainy 26-Jun-21 07:03 AM

A controversial banning could get any one of us targeted for doxxing, swatting, really bad stuff.

🔇 26-Jun-21 07:03 AM

People will always bitch, and if it’s a bot posting the bans/kicks it will be worse.

Pineapples 26-Jun-21 07:03 AM

People will get autistic about it and figure out who did what by looking at the writing style, who was active at the time, etc.. They may not get it right, but they'll still stir shit about someone anyway.

Brainy 26-Jun-21 07:03 AM

It just takes one controversy.

Black Lily 26-Jun-21 07:04 AM

I can't be satted

Brainy 26-Jun-21 07:04 AM

That's why you have a macro, just like Discord does.

Then all statements are consistent and you can't identify which Jannie was behind the action.

Pineapples 26-Jun-21 07:04 AM

I guess maybe having a predefined list of keywords could work, but it's still trying to hide what we're doing a bit more than we're comfortable with.

🔇 26-Jun-21 07:04 AM

We may be retarded, but we do fine for the most part. Just beefing up the bot is all we really need to do.

Taking a serious approach to this will burn anyone out.

This isn’t a job, we do it for free.

Mumu from NYC 26-Jun-21 07:06 AM

🔇 26-Jun-21 07:06 AM

Yes.

Brainy 26-Jun-21 07:06 AM

So in this case the only thing we are trying to hide is which mod gave the statement. However, we (mods) would know who gave the statement from that channel. We (mods) would also be better incentivized to be a check and balance for other mods and have oversight over what we as a body are doing.

🔇 26-Jun-21 07:06 AM

The pineapples/moub thing was because moubs vr died around the time he was active. So it just lined up.

Brainy 26-Jun-21 07:07 AM

Everything I'm suggesting is actually to reduce burnout and recrimination, so it's less stressful or risk being a Jannie.

🔇 26-Jun-21 07:07 AM

Each mod is their own judge and jury. Other mods can give their opinions on their rulings if they want.

Pineapples 26-Jun-21 07:07 AM

I remember I was often the only one active when all the EUs woke up as well, which meant #general instantly turned into a massive erp session, so I ended up being the one having to deal with it all the time.

🔇 26-Jun-21 07:08 AM

Yeah, Eu was bad.

With nsfw-chat it’s not as terrible.

Pineapples 26-Jun-21 07:08 AM

I did get burned out, but now I just rarely respond to anyone complaining.

🔇 26-Jun-21 07:09 AM

Burned out from being the only one on at the time. Which is understandable.

Brainy 26-Jun-21 07:09 AM

My concern is a controversial ban we could all decide on together could be communicated by one individual and result in recrimination.

🔇 26-Jun-21 07:09 AM

Dealing with people while the rest of the mods were asleep.

Pineapples 26-Jun-21 07:10 AM

More just that I got sick of all the idiots trying to find stupid loopholes or excuses.

🔇 26-Jun-21 07:10 AM

Ye

Brainy 26-Jun-21 07:10 AM

When dealing with autism of the internet and people in countries with no legal accountability.

🔇 26-Jun-21 07:11 AM

If it worries you that much, I can just use a dummy account to post those things. It’s not like bans/ kicks are often.

We have only actually banned a handful of people

Two of those that were banned tried to come back and were rebanned. There’s not really any problems on that side of stuff.

Brainy 26-Jun-21 07:14 AM

Yeah it may be that it never becomes a problem at all.

But I'm more worried about the 1 schizo who could become a problem.

Then someone gets doxxed, swatted, etc., because they're held solely accountable for the action.

🔇 26-Jun-21 07:16 AM

Most of the schizos we have are more likely to commit suicide tho.

Mumu from NYC 26-Jun-21 07:16 AM

Brainy 26-Jun-21 07:16 AM

It's not a thing you can really predict apart from knowing it's a possibility.

Black Lily 26-Jun-21 07:16 AM

I think even our schizos understand doxing and swatting is a big no no

Mumu from NYC 26-Jun-21 07:17 AM

do they though?

🔇 26-Jun-21 07:17 AM

Also, there have been a few instances of people being doxxed, none of them were mods tho.

Black Lily 26-Jun-21 07:17 AM

We've only had three so I think so

Brainy 26-Jun-21 07:17 AM

I mean I'm sure 4Chan thought the same thing before it had actual psychos posting about Christchurch and mass shootings.

It's a thing you don't expect to happen until it does.

🔇 26-Jun-21 07:17 AM

I mean, big scary 4chan at it again….

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

We’re full of betas and neets.

Brainy 26-Jun-21 07:18 AM

Risk of recrimination for moderator actions is is high the larger the community and the more people come to value it.

Black Lily 26-Jun-21 07:18 AM

I have the benefit of being able to shoot someone for stepping foot on my property

🔇 26-Jun-21 07:18 AM

I have the benefit of being white. (;

🔇

I mean, big scary 4chan at it again….

Mumu from NYC 26-Jun-21 07:19 AM

https://i.imgur.com/l7sB1Xz.png

🔇 26-Jun-21 07:19 AM

And not owning a dog.

Brainy 26-Jun-21 07:19 AM

The bottom line is do we want people to have to fear recrimination for becoming a jannie or taking any moderation action because it's being put on full blast.

@Black Lily I'm not talking about someone doxxing you and coming to your house.

I'm referring to swatting.

Black Lily 26-Jun-21 07:19 AM

I know lol

Brainy 26-Jun-21 07:20 AM

My last job, I actually had to talk to my local sheriff about setting up essentially a "safe word" for 911.

So that if I was every doxxed, swat couldn't be sent out, 911 couldn't be sent out, unless I provided the "safe word".

Which is actually a huge risk since I live alone and if I was incapacitated, then they couldn't respond.

Brainy

The bottom line is do we want people to have to fear recrimination for becoming a jannie or taking any moderation action because it's being put on full blast.

Mumu from NYC 26-Jun-21 07:20 AM

unlikely, like the current mods have said so far they throw a short temper tantrum and they drop it completely

quite literally punching the air

Black Lily 26-Jun-21 07:21 AM

And Jelly isn't here

🔇 26-Jun-21 07:21 AM

Anyways, I think it’s fine for the most part. You havent been part of this community as long as the rest of us.

Brainy 26-Jun-21 07:21 AM

Well I've said all I'll say on it.

At the end of the day it's your decision. But this is just my advice.

🔇 26-Jun-21 07:22 AM

Jelly won’t come here, it’s fine.

Brainy 26-Jun-21 07:22 AM

If you don't think it will be a problem, then I'll trust it won't become a problem, and we can just return to this discussion if it becomes one.

Black Lily 26-Jun-21 07:22 AM

If only he wouldn't go to the thread either

🔇 26-Jun-21 07:22 AM

Sadly I can’t help with that.

Brainy 26-Jun-21 07:23 AM

It doesn't matter how long I've been here. Communities grow and evolve organically. Remember the very first server and the guy who deleted it because, "it wasn't like 4Chan anymore"?

The one thing to expect is new people, new problems.

🔇 26-Jun-21 07:23 AM

But yeah, rainy it’ll be alright. The first one was deleted because he got wasted.

And had burnout real bad.

Black Lily 26-Jun-21 07:24 AM

And he's schizophrenic

Brainy 26-Jun-21 07:24 AM

But it's not a crime to only treat something as a problem when it becomes a problem. That's prudent too. So I'll trust your judgment on what you think is best.

🔇 26-Jun-21 07:24 AM

That too.

Brainy 26-Jun-21 07:25 AM

I think we're already setup to doing things 500% better in the long run.

🔇 26-Jun-21 07:25 AM

We will do just fine.

Brainy 26-Jun-21 07:25 AM

🔇 26-Jun-21 07:28 AM

Forget the crazy guy, this is my stance. (;

Mumu from NYC 26-Jun-21 07:30 AM

Brainy 26-Jun-21 07:30 AM

Holy shit

This

I will do all I can to help you guys deal with the worst of them.

Including Discord.

Mumu from NYC 26-Jun-21 07:31 AM

I still think it's hilarious the vanity url is powergrab

Thank you asylum

Brainy 26-Jun-21 07:32 AM

I have faith we can do it without turning this place into safe space gulag like Discord wants.

(edited)

Goddammit I edited again.

Mumu from NYC

I still think it's hilarious the vanity url is powergrab

🔇 26-Jun-21 07:33 AM

The plan is to leave it powergrab until we come up with something better.

Mumu from NYC 26-Jun-21 07:34 AM

That's gonna be tough

Brainy 26-Jun-21 07:34 AM

VirtualRealityGeneral too long?

Jesus when I type it out

It's like a mile long lol

🔇 26-Jun-21 07:35 AM

It’s too long lol

Black Lily 26-Jun-21 07:35 AM

Just vrg should be fine

🔇 26-Jun-21 07:35 AM

Not because it won’t fit, but just because it’s a pain.

Brainy 26-Jun-21 07:35 AM

Yeah I didn't even realize it until I wrote it out lol

Can it be three characters?

🔇 26-Jun-21 07:35 AM

Yeah

Brainy 26-Jun-21 07:35 AM

I think that's actually really good (VRG).

If we can get away with three characters long.

My vote is Lily's suggestion

Black Lily 26-Jun-21 07:36 AM

But /vrg will lead to more people that have only heard of us from vrchat joining

🔇 26-Jun-21 07:36 AM

It’s why it was yubucord before.

Brainy 26-Jun-21 07:36 AM

So long as we have the thread gating entry is that really a problem?

🔇 26-Jun-21 07:37 AM

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Brainy 26-Jun-21 07:37 AM

Asking because I actually have no idea if it has been?

Futanari 26-Jun-21 07:39 AM

disable dyno bot in here so it can fuck off with the edit message system

Brainy 26-Jun-21 07:39 AM

Yeah I made that suggestion too.

🔇 26-Jun-21 07:40 AM

I’ll have to do that tomorrow when I’m not cuddling my kot in bed.

Black Lily 26-Jun-21 07:40 AM

Put the cat on your head

Brainy 26-Jun-21 07:40 AM

I actually think it's a bad idea to have that channel public, even if this channel is not being aggregated, because people may not like that they have no power to delete their posts from the server.

People want to be able to edit and/or delete what they posted.

Black Lily 26-Jun-21 07:41 AM

It'll be full of wintermute's messages

Mumu from NYC 26-Jun-21 07:41 AM

LOL

🔇 26-Jun-21 07:41 AM

This is fine.

Mumu from NYC 26-Jun-21 07:41 AM

Fucking hell dude

Brainy 26-Jun-21 07:42 AM

Saying this as someone who periodically purges what I commit to servers because of cancel culture.

🔇 26-Jun-21 07:43 AM

Never delete things, never edit things.

As it should be.

Mumu from NYC 26-Jun-21 07:43 AM

It it's funny to see the horrible typos though

Black Lily 26-Jun-21 07:55 AM

This one already has 100 more than Ryder's

Brainy 26-Jun-21 08:03 AM

Any reason why we have so many spinoffs?

Mumu from NYC 26-Jun-21 08:03 AM

Power grab

🔇 26-Jun-21 08:05 AM

People saw the nuke and tried to powergrab.

Also most others weren’t set up for a large wave of people to join.

Brainy

Any reason why we have so many spinoffs?

Distoibed 26-Jun-21 08:07 AM

"its time for me to be the new leader because i know that I'll do a better job"

Brainy 26-Jun-21 08:07 AM

It looks like some people don't know Black Lily is moderating this one and would prefer this one.

🔇 26-Jun-21 08:08 AM

It makes no difference who holds the keys.

Mumu from NYC 26-Jun-21 08:08 AM

Basically

🔇 26-Jun-21 08:08 AM

Only extra person who is a mod here is Azuth.

The rest are jannies.

Mumu from NYC 26-Jun-21 08:09 AM

The key holder is a dummy

🔇 26-Jun-21 08:09 AM

AdminPerson. (:

Mumu from NYC 26-Jun-21 08:09 AM

I'm gonna fight adminperson

Square up

🔇 26-Jun-21 08:09 AM

Okay, let me know how it goes.

Mumu from NYC 26-Jun-21 08:10 AM

Like this

https://tenor.com/view/dono-wall-talking-wall-bricks-gif-17741481

🔇 26-Jun-21 08:10 AM

https://tenor.com/view/vettel-in-wall-hit-the-wall-gif-11905373

Brainy 26-Jun-21 08:12 AM

Mumu from NYC 26-Jun-21 08:13 AM

All I'm saying is, the server blew up at the perfect time for Mona and I's collaboration effort of the feetcord

🔇 26-Jun-21 08:14 AM

Feet cord is going well.

Mumu from NYC 26-Jun-21 08:14 AM

Somehow

Distoibed 26-Jun-21 08:15 AM

it's a populair fetish

and I do think that a "spring clean" isn't that bad

Black Lily 26-Jun-21 08:20 AM

Whoever holds the keys just needs to be stable

#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3 26-Jun-21 08:31 AM

we definitely don't need any more owner melty's

Distoibed 26-Jun-21 08:31 AM

sadly it's included in the /vrg/ discord package

Black Lily 26-Jun-21 08:32 AM

But I don'r have melties

🔇 26-Jun-21 08:32 AM

Eventually I will have the largest melty and it will be when we all move to guilded or matrix or whatever kills discord.

(:

#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3 26-Jun-21 08:35 AM

also are we just going to let carl exist as carl

Black Lily

But I don'r have melties

Distoibed 26-Jun-21 08:36 AM

we have 2 other discords

they'll have the melties

Black Lily 26-Jun-21 08:36 AM

Carl is a very special boy

🔇 26-Jun-21 08:36 AM

Carl is containing himself so far.

🔇

Carl is containing himself so far.

#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3 26-Jun-21 08:36 AM

is he though

🔇 26-Jun-21 08:37 AM

Yes

Distoibed 26-Jun-21 08:37 AM

I do think that we're able to handle carl now with our new regimen

#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3 26-Jun-21 08:38 AM

I guess i dont think that you should really have to "handle" people but as long he is able to somewhat restrained i guess its fine

Black Lily 26-Jun-21 08:39 AM

What about Eva

🔇 26-Jun-21 08:39 AM

I kinda hate him tbh

#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3 26-Jun-21 08:41 AM

I personally think less problem children is better when it comes to that, because you only have problems if there are people causing them

also if kai-chan<3 #7475 tries to join they were kicked from the meetup for being underage

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

Distoibed 26-Jun-21 08:42 AM

Got the same vibe from him

#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3

also if kai-chan<3 #7475 tries to join they were kicked from the meetup for being underage

🔇 26-Jun-21 08:42 AM

Oh, good to know. Let Ryder know because apparently Ryder and nemlin were drinking with them.

Or Shonen, idk

Distoibed 26-Jun-21 08:43 AM

I mean, we can kick whoever we want tbh, if they don't like it, they literally have 2 other servers to join

#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3 26-Jun-21 08:44 AM

they didnt say they were but everything they were asked made them seem like a 14yr old that had access to moms liquor cabinet

🔇 26-Jun-21 08:44 AM

Sounds like sticks

#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3 26-Jun-21 08:44 AM

yep

🔇 26-Jun-21 08:44 AM

Except an alcoholic.

Distoibed 26-Jun-21 08:45 AM

does he also sound like sticks? or does this one have a deep voice?

#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3 26-Jun-21 08:45 AM

sound like a 12 yr old boy ask thier age they said 47

and various other things pointed to them being underage

Distoibed 26-Jun-21 08:45 AM

ah

I was gonna ask "just ask him about adult stuff"

#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3 26-Jun-21 08:46 AM

and he failed at that when we did

Black Lily 26-Jun-21 08:51 AM

@#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3 he's already in Ryder's server

#Asbestos Enjoyer OhMai<3 26-Jun-21 08:51 AM

yes

i know

onion, barron, worm, asami, and theo should all be able to back up them acting underage

again no proof they are, but

id recommend extensive vetting

Pineapples 26-Jun-21 08:55 AM

That John Placeholder guy seems like a shit stirrer to me too. I also saw him in Ryder's server saying he was just going to shitpost in this one for no particular reason.

Dunno if anything should be done about him just yet, but someone to keep an eye on.

Black Lily 26-Jun-21 08:58 AM

VanillaOatmeal is also most likely underage if you see him

Black Lily

VanillaOatmeal is also most likely underage if you see him

Distoibed 26-Jun-21 09:00 AM

hasn't that guy been in here for a decent amount of time?

Black Lily 26-Jun-21 09:00 AM

Yeah I just noticed he's in here

Futanari 26-Jun-21 12:26 PM

That John Placeholder guy be posting toilet pissing shit

saying its a shitpost

Krial 26-Jun-21 02:02 PM

Vanillaoatmeal idk if he’s underage or not

He’s hung out with kites crew a lot

I never got underage vibes from him but could be wrong

June 26-Jun-21 02:23 PM

Took a minute to get caught up in here

Gonna setup the bot now

Let me piss then I'm free to chat

🔇 26-Jun-21 02:24 PM

I’m going to murder the John guy, just got word from people that he’s generally just an asshole and a shithead in every community.

June 26-Jun-21 02:24 PM

Sounds fine

🔇 26-Jun-21 02:24 PM

Vauun told me he’s been in his air soft communities if you are wondering.

June 26-Jun-21 02:25 PM

Saw that

Get more info from him?

🔇 26-Jun-21 02:26 PM

Don’t need to, he’s just been stirring shit since he got here.

Krial 26-Jun-21 02:26 PM

Also eva is fine

Annoying

And literally gets off on people blocking him (edited)

But banning will just make him a martyr and give him more credibility imo.

He’ll prolly go full melty on meets if he’s banned. Plus when he’s not sperging, he’s totally fine.

Just my thoughts on it

🔇 26-Jun-21 02:28 PM

Yeah, I want to get rid of cancer early, not have it linger for a long time causing problems.

Eva is okay at best.

Krial 26-Jun-21 02:30 PM

Could we have a way of letting people know like

“Hey. Stop sperging out or you’ll get kicked plz.”

Because I think it coming out of nowhere makes it look like a snap decision, or possibly blamed on one person sperging on another and banning them

Something like a warning is prolly going to be efficient, and give credibility to their ban

🔇 26-Jun-21 02:31 PM

Yeah, that’s fine for people who have been here a while.

Or when they aren’t doing it on purpose.

Krial 26-Jun-21 02:31 PM

Could also be posted in actions

So there’s a record of like

“ they were warned”

June 26-Jun-21 02:47 PM

DM them the warning, then publicly post it in Actions (not the message) saying X was given a warning to stop doing Y

leave it as simple as possible and as little formality as you can

the more strict and professionally you take moderation the more vrg will fight you because its like luna

🔇 26-Jun-21 02:48 PM

We can do that.

June 26-Jun-21 02:48 PM

you have to boil the frog slowly

Distoibed 26-Jun-21 02:49 PM

Eva is...

he's fine

he's just a meanie sometimes

June 26-Jun-21 02:50 PM

thats fine and all

Distoibed 26-Jun-21 02:50 PM

I mean yeah, he's threading that path

June 26-Jun-21 02:50 PM

but I dont give a fuck warn him if he causes too much effort after awhile

Distoibed 26-Jun-21 02:50 PM

I mean sure, go ahead

June 26-Jun-21 02:50 PM

you make the call when hes wasting effort after awhile

Distoibed 26-Jun-21 02:51 PM

but he's not the kind of guy that needs an immediate LOIC (edited)

June 26-Jun-21 03:21 PM

*output-here

oh

Dal290 26-Jun-21 03:21 PM

Generally I handled things like that, with a talk hey I got a bunch of people complaining about you doing X is that true

How they react is very informative

Shows who has the maturity and who has done the song and dance of dancing around crap for so long they react all sussy

June 26-Jun-21 03:27 PM

*output-here

@🔇 gib bot access to channels

it cant message here

🔇 26-Jun-21 03:28 PM

Should have access? It’s mod and vrg

June 26-Jun-21 03:28 PM

alright I'll make sure its not he prefix

sec

🔇 26-Jun-21 03:28 PM

Has same perms as me.

June 26-Jun-21 03:28 PM

VRG_Filtered_2_with_names.txt

2.98 MB

🔇 26-Jun-21 03:32 PM

June 26-Jun-21 03:35 PM

I just was looking though it

before cleaning up the vs folder that was in

oh I know whats up

I have to be mod

wait no, I see it now, my account ID changed

this isn't my alt anymore

Distoibed 26-Jun-21 03:36 PM

so, do you need mod

or does your bot need it?

June 26-Jun-21 03:37 PM

bot needs it, and bot checks whos running the commands to make sure only mods can do anything with it

but I forgot I manually changed it to only respond to me last server due to no one understanding how it worked

Distoibed 26-Jun-21 03:38 PM

@🔇 you heard the man

June 26-Jun-21 03:38 PM

didnt want people to break it during that last month or so because we knew we were under the gun

anyways

Krial 26-Jun-21 03:39 PM

Ooh. Smart bot.

Also actions post for that John guy ban or no

🔇 26-Jun-21 03:40 PM

Done.

June 26-Jun-21 03:41 PM

thanks

I'll change it so you can use it then

🔇 26-Jun-21 03:42 PM

make it so anyone with jannie/mod role can use it.

June 26-Jun-21 03:43 PM

they have to have these

I can change that

what does jannies have

perms wise

🔇 26-Jun-21 03:43 PM

Manage messages, not channels.

June 26-Jun-21 03:43 PM

kay let me remove the channel then

should work

*purge 1

nope

🔇 26-Jun-21 03:44 PM

Oh, jannies can’t manage stuff in this channel.

Let me fix

Should be good.

Distoibed 26-Jun-21 03:46 PM

nice

June 26-Jun-21 03:54 PM

currently theres no filters in place

updating shit

🔇 26-Jun-21 03:55 PM

JannieBot BOT 26-Jun-21 03:58 PM

Finished sweep, Crawled 1011 Messages. Deleted:0 Last Message: https://discord.com/channels/844705209615908914/844705211012218880/844728149816115271

Mumu from NYC 26-Jun-21 03:59 PM

June 26-Jun-21 04:07 PM

my favorite thing

link back to the begining of time

Original message was deleted or could not be loaded.

Perrine 26-Jun-21 04:36 PM

Yeah, someone last night was really disappointed to see 'em join this server, apparently they have a reputation

Mumu from NYC 26-Jun-21 04:40 PM

real schizo hours

June 26-Jun-21 05:16 PM

@🔇 bots spewing out purged messages

🔇 26-Jun-21 05:19 PM

Yeah, I’ll turn that off for this channel, a little busy rn tho.

June 26-Jun-21 05:19 PM

alright, its gonna fire on all the filtered messages too though

should disable it for bots doing the actions

🔇 26-Jun-21 05:20 PM

I’ll configure it soon.

@[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes sure you can be a jannie

[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes 26-Jun-21 05:21 PM

I have no idea what would be expected of a jannie

I give hot pockets

🔇 26-Jun-21 05:22 PM

The standard jannie duties. Clean it up.

[Daily Dose of] Dankmemes 26-Jun-21 05:22 PM

https://tenor.com/view/hooah-army-salute-officer-drunk-gif-7893712

🔇 26-Jun-21 05:22 PM